I really like this! I was thinking $30-$35k. But $70k! Even if I had the money for this, I wouldn’t buy it. I could buy a used Sprinter with full bath for about $80k. And, be able to use the sprinter for multiple use cases.
Thank you for sharing. Love hearing not only what people think about these trailers, but what other trailers or forms of camping would be a better alternative.
Same for us. We were excited about this, but the price definitely put a damper on our excitement. Like you said, at this price, there are a bunch of alternatives.
a 4x4 sprinter is more practical than hauling a trailer, even for off-road. 70k is insane. Luxury prices for something most people who can afford luxury won't even bother doing. 70k is a lot of vacations, I don't have to settle with "camping" for that price. I can buy and abuse many "glamping" tents for 70k, you cannot tell me my experience will change with this trailer.
@@PlayingwithSticks, its definitely a better alternative , but these rigs cost as much as a full size trailers and some mobile homes.. especially now , this market will dry up because many of the people I know that are buying these small teardrop type trailers can't afford these prices.. I totally understand the money going into these offgrid trailers, but I sure the hell are not spending 70 to 100 thousand on these trailers, when you can get them for 12 to 20 thousand.. I love the durability, better material and off grid setups and unlike most, I understand, but these prices 😬😬
it going to be a deal breaker for many... but at the same time. for those that are going to be using a camper A lot. using it for weeks or months on end. the fact that its rugged, has space in side for cold weather use, operates as a tear drop when needed. Its price becomes more acceptable. its far more then a person who's just going out for 2-3 days a month needs. but it lacks some of the things a full time living needs.
$70K?? “Who is this for?” Not this hombre…WOW!! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ I get it….the Bean brand is quality. However, this is getting into the Airstream price space, but without a full bath, toilet and shower (and other amenities). Incredible what they can ask these days. Sure, there are people that will buy them. But I’d bet that rules out 95% of your audience.
Good comment, “getting near airstream prices”…agree, I was think $70k for this is getting near Australian pressurized and completely dialed in off road trailers. Kimber, etc. Nice trailer here, price is too much for our family.
My wife and I were super excited about this camper when you first made a video a year ago or so. Once we heard of the pricing, we were bummed. No solar, no vent fan, no AC, no screen door, no front box. Maybe some of these feature will come, but will be hard to have the price go even higher. Still really like it, but the love has been lost. For the money, TetonX or Arkto trailers seem to offer a lot more for the money (still too high). We just really wanted something with inside seating/standing/night toilet/dog space. The search continues. Love the channel, appreciate all the info and seeing the family. Keep up the great work Drew!
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on this trailer. While it doesn't tick all the boxes for you and the price, I'm glad to see more and more folks coming up with designs like this. Like you mentioned folks want a little extra space. I think we will eventually see budget lines of these types of trailers start to pop up. I think we will all just have to be patient for a bit.
You guys sound just like us. Christine and I have been looking at the Arkto. A few years ago, we investigated the Teton X. Really liked it but the lead time was pretty bad. Lead time on this is pretty bad too. Maybe it will get better once production is in full swing.
Geezus - for 70K$ you can get a full sized luxury camper, you can even get a smaller airstream. Sorry man but this is way too expensive. Might as well just self-build at this point.
airstream is a completely different buyer that is okay with limited off road capability and poor fit and finish. If airstream was quality, I would own one and Bean would not exist. I would have not designed my own trailer.
@@scottdurkee9162 That's what fascinates me. There are people who build teardrops for a few hundred or a couple of thousand dollars. Even the cheapest commercial units are above 10K$ ... madness!
What a beauty! It's clean and airy. With no gear in there , i was picturing it fully geared out for one or two or 4 people. 4 adults. 2 adults plus 2 littles, plus dogs. I think it would still feel airy or spacious because there are no upper cabinets. This is designed to off road or overland so you get out where the big critters are. Because that canvas top is so high it puts you some what out of range for a courious bear visitor. I could well picture a bear coming out of those woods to forage for food! This is such a great reimagining of all the food and comfort needs for a standy trailer. Price aside, I love it. They did a wonderful job! I love the nature chalks .
Jenn gets it! I got to first hand experience 4 people in this trailer. Remember when I showed you the prototype of this trailer? When we ran that trip Brigham's entire family stayed in that trailer the entire trip. But, get this...Drew stayed with them too! Haha. Poor guys. I was surprised how well the space lived with all of us in there. When everything is stored down low, no matter how much gear or people you have, the trailer tends to live the same. Where other trailers our family have used just overflows. Yes our traditional. pop up only had low storage, but it wasn't near enough. all of our gear ended up everywhere!
Thanks for the comprehensive video. I think there is a niche market for this camper: well built, off road, roomy. I like that there is so much variety in campers and you can get what works for your situation.
I'm a complete beginner/novice but found this channel via interest in the beanstock 2.0. I'm just looking for a simple, easy, and affordable upgrade to a regular tent so this is like looking at a mansion. I'm so appreciative of all the people here who are recognizing that the price is "ridiculous". But, also knowing how the bean squared came to be, I feel like the makers just wanted to see what would happen if they just dreamed up something with everything they wanted. It's fun to see the passion even if I'm not the target audience.
This may be the first comment we got where someone didn't have an issue with the trailer. Go Brian! It's that price. It brings out the papa bear in all of us. Haha.
Drew, thank you for the great video. And thank you for doing it even though I’m sure you knew your inbox would be filled with negative comments about the price. I think Bean hit it out of the park. For the growing family where a teardrop is too small but who don’t want to embrace the giant trailer life style, this is perfect. It truly checks almost all the boxes. Non-convertible master bed, an entire second bed for the kids where the space won’t be completely wasted when they outgrow it or move away, enough room to stand and get dressed, the option to get out of the weather if needed, small and nimble enough to get off-road if wanted and light enough to still be pulled by a large number of non-traditional towing vehicles. Bean chose some outstanding components for this trailer. I understand wanting something to DIY, but for those that work a full time job and want to come home and spend time with the family and not spend it working on the object that is supposed to be fun, this is almost the perfect buy once cry once option. All that being said, this is a very niche product. It isn’t going to fit what the masses want. Does that mean Bean was wrong, nope, it means that they built it to target a small group of people. I have no doubt in the future there will be an entire line of Squared, just like with the teardrops.
Great intro there. You are exactly right. When I film a trailer like this, I usually reach out to the manufacturer the day before I release the videos and say, "get ready for the tough comments." I really like how you took the time to explain who this camper was for. I agree. I have met many folks like this on my journey. dual working parents both holding prominent positions. Children involved in every extra-curricular activity known to man. This family just wants to get out, get out quick, but still have the comforts from home. They've been working their tail off and there was a season of life where setting up camp was exactly what they needed, and that season may come again. But in this season they want to recreate. Get to the camp and get on the trails. And when they are done, they want to quickly ship out, get home, rinse/lather/repeat.
Well, that was interesting. It’s too much for me, the whole setup, the electronics and I didn’t see a fan. Oh and the price! Yeah, that’s a lot for this poor gal. I just want to go camping. No frills, I’m good with no toilet, no lights, ( camp lantern with a battery), carry my own water, etc. I always enjoy your reviews, Drew 🩷
Hi Ramona. I really like your take on this. I think there is definitely a spot in the market for a bare bones version of this. That is what Charles was trying to create. I'm bummed he never got to see the dream come to fruition. But, that's life. At least we got to see the vision.
$70k !? You can pickup a jeep rubicon and a hiker trailer for that much. That’s crazy. $30k-to maybe $40k. $70k for that’s ridiculous. That’s airstream pricing without a bathroom.
@@PlayingwithSticks Thanks for responding. Big fan of the channel. Love to see you (if you haven’t already) do a review of the Tribe Trailers Expedition 500. Full heat and AC. Roof raises on electric actuators to head-room camper size. Can hold a larger refrigerator. Composite panels like you suggested, not canvas. All the basic fit and finish of this trailer but with a bath and shower for $50k. Seems like a much better buy to me. Packs down smaller and has the same if not more creature comfort features. Idk if you’re sponsored or have any specific company affiliations, but I’d love to know what your thoughts are on the best rugged off-road camper at these higher end price points? Your thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. Thanks again for your time. Keep up the great work.
Love the space and design of this trailer. I’ll wait for the Bean Squared Stock with a lower profile less sophisticated suspension that will allow it to fit in a 7 foot garage.
This is an excellent video and a very cool product! So many comments about the price. It is expensive, but that is because it is expensive to make. With Bean passing the 1000th trailer built there is a market out there for products like this as hard as it is for people to imagine. There are people who will spend that kind of money and buy a trailer without indoor plumbing. I love my Bean; we are just wrapping up our 4th year with it. It still remains my most favorite toy with wheels I have ever bought. The Squared is a great step and I love that Bean is willing to put in the work that pushes the boundaries of what is available and possible.
It is good to see great campers like this - truly well engineered and ready for those camping excursions. I think this also gives inspiration to those of us not in this financial league to innovate, DIY, and make do - and come up with solutions that work for us and fall within our own budgetary limitations. Thanks!
Haha. I try to keep the channel well rounded. While the majority of my content is budget, I do want people to see most of the options out there. However, with that said I am in no hurry to go out and film a high budget trailer anytime soon. Haha.
Definitely a bean2 lite would be something we would consider purchasing. Being able to upgrade modularly in the future would be a fantastic way to get into this model. The new layout is fantastic! I love it that you can still be inside with the top down, especially if you are in bear country or severe weather. Bean if you are listening, please have a bean2 lite in your future, and we hope to see you at expo east with this model next month.
Great point on the bears and weather. I would definitely use this as my winter camping base with that top down. I think it would make a great trailer for that.
Bean definitely put together a pretty inclusive camper. It has more than I would need, but I just bought a used 2018 Riverside Retro camper that has water, toilet, shower that I don't need. (The price was right $19k, and condition is very good.)
I don’t need to repeat other comments about price. But it is very well designed and really attractive. It will be nice if there’s a stripped down version without the off road stuff and extras for those of us who stay in middle-country at state parks etc. I would love just the compartments, windows and beds/futon. Gorgeous work and it’s on my lottery ticket list. Great content and review as per usual.
Thank you for taking the time to share this. I had a feeling there would be a good number of people like you who saw the value in this trailer, but would prefer a more highway oriented version. So glad to hear you are enjoying the content. I love hearing that.
For a small family, this trailer actually is a really good form factor. It's close to ideal in my opinion. A little light duty off-roading and camping sprinkled in between some highway miles with a trailer of this weight and this configuration would be sweet. One feature it's missing though, even as just an option, is to have a front overhead modular bunk shelf that could be installed to sleep another individual when the top is popped. Everyone's talking about the $70k price, and they're right. Even if it all makes sense from the manufacturer's side, it's a hard ask compared to other alternatives. I'd like to see a 'back to basics' equipment option to remove expensive components and bring down the price. Notably, returning to manual leveling jacks, no on-board air system and an ecoflow optional delete so buyers can plug in their own power source up front into the system. These alone would theoretically bring the component/labor cost downwards of maybe $15k to a price point of $55k for the consumer. It may free up room for more storage as well, maybe. That's a huge difference for effectively the same trailer.
I should have used you for my con section. You said this much more eloquently than I can. And a couple of people have mentioned the bunks. That would be a nice addition
@@PlayingwithSticks I appreciate the kind words! I think you legit did an excellent job. I had the benefit of hearing your opinions first. :D There's a lot to love in this trailer layout. Other than the consumer price tag, this thing literally ticks almost all of the boxes. Fingers crossed we'll see more designs like this here in Utah for the fall and upcoming spring RV expo shows! Hoping to see some that are cost conscious for the broader end of the market. :)
Thanks Drew! There is a lot to like on this trailer! I think they should have made 2 versions of this trailer. One with the hard sided folding composite pop up tent for the price they are selling the canvas version and sell the canvas version for $50,000.
Brad, you got to stop giving these tips. You provided more than enough meals and company during Expo Mountain West to last a lifetime. I appreciate you Brad!
Love the idea... A lite would be more my speed. A bit of solar and a couple batteries is plenty for me, delete the RGB lights, toilet, interior sink, and maybe downgrade some components for a lower price tag and I'd be interested. I like the simplicity and straightforward idea of this, very customizable and adaptable to many different ways of camping. I especially like the kitchen, I love small campers that let me use my own stove or stow it for tons of extra prep space. Definitely need ac though here in Florida... Kinda surprised that wasn't thought of for this price.
Thanks for the video, Drew. Aside from liking the tent top, all I can see are design flaws. Outside: the kitchen. how do you use the table and get to the drawer? They block each other. Does the awning go over the door? The shower tent looks like it would open over that big hatch door and block it? Inside: The table big enough for 1? It blocks the sink. You couldn't even use it for a prep table when cooking. The cooler blocks the door. So many controls are at floor level. The kids and the dog would be constantly bumping into them and doing who knows what. Over sized queen.? Why? Takes up more space and makes it hard to find sheets. I can't think of anything so poorly thought out. Still I enjoyed the tour.
This is so fun Mary. I have always loved your comments. But, I think this is the first time you really took the time to break a trailer down into individual components. And you shared so many things I haven't heard anyone mention yet. Love it! Thank you so much for taking the time to add to this community.
easy to open the draw while using the table, awning goes over the door, table folds up and down, two can eat at it. Frig can be3 used while cooking indoors and out. Bed will take Queen sheets.
When I first read this comment, I thought maybe...I mean how much does a little solar cost. BUT, throw in the upgraded fully plumbed slide out kitchen, the solar, and AC you probably are getting closer to that price.
More power to Bean playing in the premium high-end space. I wish them great success with this trailer as long as it helps allow Bean to continue to produce the Bean Stock 2.0 at it current price point -- for at least two more years when I can get one!
When a patriot camper, which is still a tent basically, is 72,000, it’s not hard to understand why Bean can price the trailer so high. Heck, even Patriot just announced a similar sized trailer to bean squared and it’s $112,000. People buy these whether you believe it or not. I do agree that the trailer as a whole is uninspired and bland. But this is a prototype so it ideally gets better
They are calling this their final version. While I think it will upgrade over time. The prototype was our last video, this is what will be going to market.
Really liked this one. Had components I’d use without a bunch of junk I don’t want to deal with or pay for. Love the option to zip out the tent for repairs and it’s silly but the little things matter…the integrated air compressor! The price new was a bit of a shocker, maybe in a few years and used it would be the trailer for me.
Thanks for another great overview, Drew. I like your thoughts about a potential future "light" version, with a simplified interior and fewer "base" features with the pop top as an option for those that want extra space.
Great video again 🎉. I think $45k would be a better price for the Bean 2. I feel it needs a shield for those two propane tanks in front for the rocks going down the road
Hey Drew, great video as always. I really do like the electrical system. It looks like it has great suspension as well. Although I'm skeptical on the airbags due to the possibility of them wearing out popping when you are out in the field. Hopefully they have a Timberon3500 suspension. Or something like that to allow that bag failure to not stop your trip. It looks like it's pretty bare aside from that. Price is ridiculous. There is so much more they need to add to make that cost reasonable. Or take 20 grand off of that price. I realize I am being a little hard on them, but for that price it should be bulletproof, and have many accessories.
I've always valued your opinion. You are realistic, but also not shy to pay the big bucks for a quality piece of gear. So getting your take on this trailer is very valuable. You know the market, you know the components. The more we talk, I see we have very similar camping needs. But, you aren't afraid to put the money where you see value, where sometimes my frugality make me make poor decisions. Haha. All to say I really appreciate the feedback you provide on here. I often look to hear what you will see because your feedback week in and week out has been very balanced. In terms of suspension, I believe it is their own in house trailing arm suspension they are using. This is not in my wheelhouse, but my take is you still have the shocks and trailing arm, so it should get you through until you repair those airbags. Anyone out there able to elaborate on this thought? I assume the airbags just reduce the travel on the springs, meaning they don't do all the heavy work right? Similar to airbags on a 4x4 vehicle. These are new to me as I have never taken out a trailer with airbags.
@@PlayingwithSticks I went to their site to see more of their stuff. And I was happy to see that they have a 25 gallon water tank as well as a partner stove. Although I believe the Dometic stove sink insert would be better. On their site they have a great picture of the trailing arm, airbag, Fox shocks with reservoir. It is a very nice setup although, if that are bag goes all the way out it will sit on the bump stops and you will nurse it back to somewhere where you can get it fixed. Driving on a fully drooped suspension for shocks is not a good idea. I could see washboard Roads doing a number on things. Your words are too kind. What you need to go camping isn't really a lot. It's all about what you want that takes up the room and expense. Ha! :-) Much love to your family as always😁
@sierramantrvlnus I think maybe I just assumed without those airbags the shocks would be weighted to support the trailer. I'm kind of just picturing how I use an airbag inside my coils. Let's say on the rear suspension of a Subaru towing an 1800 lb teardrop. I have a lot to learn in this area
@@PlayingwithSticks you never know until you get put into the situation. About 4 years ago I was put into the situation so I kind of learned some things. I have an F-150 4 x 4 that I added some stuff to and a shell with a carpet kit on the inside. Set it all up for camping and has my kids were born and grew up they got to Camp with Dad in the truck. Very simple camping . The ex-wife always wanted a trailer so we got the big trailers. For her. All my camping gear fit in a plastic tub and a milk crate.
Your mention of the Bean Squared Lite idea got me thinking and right now, if the price would be low enough on that glorious unicorn, then I wouldn't need much convincing to get one to Australia. In the meantime... If I won the lottery, then I could have my 4WD + camper cake and eat it too. I would import one of these into Australia as-is with every bell & whistle, turn the corner with the fridge into a shower/toilet cubicle, have a 2 person sized table on a swivel mount and move the fridge and sink & tap to the slide. It would be similar to a lot of cheaper Aussie campers but better because most of them are a bit bloated, cramped and heavy, which is not ideal for the way my wife and I (and our dogs) like to camp or for towing by my beloved modified Wrangler.
Always a good watch. This camper is for someone, but not many. Obviously it is awesome, but I think it is too awesome. A big part of tiny trailer camping is finding solutions and modifying as you go...I might argue that is the primary draw to tiny camper camping. When everything is solved for you (at a steep price) im not sure what there is left to be doing out there. They may as well sell it pre packed with clothes and basic camping supplies as I could also argue that is what would please the ones who will be buying this....deep pockets looking for a plug and play camping experience with the "look at me" vibe. But again, its awesome...id love to stay in one for a night...and then get back to camping.
Haha. I really enjoyed this breakdown. I agree, half if not more than half the fun of camping is the process. That's why we ended up with a paired down camper. We actually missed that part of the camping experience.
Yes you have options for another $30,000. You should at least get a lockable storage box for $70,000. A person could easily creep those propane tanks lol!😅
So it's basically a souped up tent on wheels. It seems like the focus is on sleeping and electrical. Everything to make food, eat, and bathroom facilities (except the pull-out toilet) has to be set up and is outside. The inside sink is really limited. I'd rather have a kitchen and bathroom set up in a trailer this size than a work space for this price.
Yep, I can tell you are not the target demographic here. While it looks like they are prioritizing sleeping and electrical, the priority is actually outdoor cooking and living. Sounds strange, but just keep watching those videos of owner walkthroughs and you will start seeing the advantages.
I think a lot of folks will be shocked by this price. I'm interested to see who ends up buying this type of camper. Is it hardcore camping families or folks who appreciate having the best? Or maybe a whole different market.
Good seeing you! I think you are echoing what many of us trailer owners are thinking. We all like this trailer, would use this trailer, but will stick with what we have.
I begin to scratch my head at the “high price” comments. This is ridiculously high - for ME. But I ain’t the target audience. And clearly neither are many of the commenters. But Bean does its research. There ARE people who pay this kind of money for this kind of rig. That is who this is made for. Let them enjoy. Find the rig you can afford and enjoy.
The more I get to know the folks at Bean, the more what you say is valid. They do some pretty robust market studies. They wouldn't be making this trailer if they didn't know if there was a market there. Great point Dean.
@@PlayingwithSticks, the market is there now , because in general is a new faze for many that are looking for a new direction of relaxation and peace ... although I do understand the work involved and being a popular industry now , I don't think that fad will last long at them prices when there are other small businesses that are offering a similar product cheaper .. I love your content, keep up the great work
Everyone commenting on the price, negatively, and I agree, it’s not my price point either. But 😉 In a year or two, I’d bet some, even many, of the ones who could afford it will have tired of the whole fad and you can pick them up cheap.
This has the look of those robust Aussie overlanding trailers you see in videos splashing through rivers and covering swaths of terrain in places like Siberia. Fun to imagine the places you could go! Love the high-end functionality (Truma, ecoflow) over rv-style bells and whistles. In awe of the super niche features like air bags and compressors that are for serious off-road adventures and prepper types, but expect that the demographic for that is pretty small. (I always wonder where people really take these in the U.S.). Still, an admirable design, although some softer woody interior colors would be nice rather than macho black.
I'm not going to comment further on the price as it isn't Bean's fault that there are people in the world that are eager to pay a premium to do the most simplest of things. So hopefully Bean is reading the future outdoor market correctly and plan to show this new rig at every commercial RV and boat show nationwide. But looking at Squared reminds me of some of the ways Stock 2.0 could be refined. For one, I always thought Stock 2.0 should have had a slide out stove and counter top (think nested on top of each other). You pull out the stove and right under is a locking extension counter/table top you pull out further (or vice versa). You still would be able to retain ample interior storage in the rear cabin. Furthermore, a pull-down, wood veneer tambour panel to close off the rear, open storage space would have been nice too. And from a purely aesthetic perspective, I am not a fan of the flimsy looking fenders either. But I'm sure this is due to cost-saving measures. Also Bean, could you please make a Bean Mini? An even smaller 4x7, galley-less, extreme off-road trailer? I, for one, would love this! And I'm definitely not alone given the quietly growing segment of mini-trailers being built specifically for the overlanding side by side enthusiasts. These guys are doing these very remote, backcountry trails and sleeping in amazing little off-road trailers. And most side by sides can tow up to 1,500lbs! I don't own a SxS but the appeal of a rugged, little off-road trailer pushes the buttons for a lot of outdoor enthusiasts. Just look at what the competition is doing with these smaller trailers! Anyway, as a perspective teardrop buyer, this is all just my 2 cents...
Love that you took the time to share this. These are the type of comments that are gold for manufacturers. And as an enthusiast, I really enjoy them as well.
People are absolutely eager that have the capitol to invest in these rigs, but there are many companies competing and I feel there is only a short market where these individuals that can afford these will keep that market going, when that runs out , the common people won't be continuing that trend.. I understand the business, but risky when you can purchase these Australian models that offer much more for them costs
@@thomasott9488 - My hunch is that you are right. But one can't ever underestimate what "foolish" things a person will do with their money. The real elephant in the room is the used market. Inventory is piling up and there will be great deals to be had. And I'm not just talking about the commercial RV brands either. I have seen the smaller, custom niche brands sit on the classified section for months before being fire sold. It's just a matter of time before we start to see all those overlander toys and gear that was purchased in 2020-2022 get even more deeply discounted.
@@thomasott9488 - My hunch is that you're right. I think the elephant in the room that can't be ignored is the used market. This might be the market disruption that could further hurt new sales in the mid-to-long term.
I'll stick with my Runaway Rouser. All composite, under 1000 pounds, comes with a/c, can stand up without opening anything, can build out however one wants, and costs under 10K. I put a bunk bed and kitchen in mine, for under 500 dollars. Quite a deal!
I like the compact size (fits in garage), and the floor space is nice and open. Would like fewer delivered features, but that’s just my preference. All those electronics seem a bit like overkill to me. Still, very capable camper.
These RV prices are insane. When I compare what I’ve paid for three different fifth wheels over the last 18 years, it’s just unreal what’s happened. UNREAL.
While I agree these prices are wild. Comparing something like this to a 5th wheel are two different worlds in terms of quality. 5th wheels are designed to last four seasons. These are designed to last 4 decades. The campers on this channel are a bit different then what you are used to seeing come out of the large rv industry. We focus on smaller manufacturers who are handcrafting quality trailers. Does that justify the high prices for all these trailers in 2024? No. Just saying you may enjoy watching more of these videos to help you understand how different this market is then the 3 previous trailers you purchased.
Drew as usual, excellent review! I am impressed with the fit and finish of all Bean trailers. They have done a great job with this new flagship model. The price is not that bad and right in line with the market. All the components are top knotch! Love the couch and extra wide Queen! Suspension and chassis look incredible! Wish they offered a 3-5 five year warranty instead of just 1 year. Way more pros than cons. Some of the cons for me personally: Why a pop-up at all. Could have gone full hard sided with 6' 4" head room. That entry door is a head banger for us tall geeks. At this weight, I don't think the pop-up going down while in transit is that much of a concern. Artic Tern windows are awesome and expensive, but they have to delete that front window on the slope. It's going to leak. Not sure what the ground clearance is but to much low hanging fruit. Steps, table storage, spare tire and stab jacks. Also, putting an extension draw bar on rear trailer hitch and then stating how much weight it can hold is encouraging people to put too much weight on rear hitch.
Good to see you my friend. I'm picturing you trying to move through that doorway. Haha. Great feedback here. You spent a lot of time studying trailers in this weight/price range so I know you have seen a lot of different options out there. Great point about the height as well. At what point does aero really not matter a whole lot? When you are towing a large brick down the road that extra height probably isn't as important as other shapes.
@@PlayingwithSticks great to see you as well Drew!! It's probably stupid of me to suggest the B 2 going hardsided at this point. I know folks like the idea of having all that head room that a pop up offers. I was very surprised how roomy my trailer feels at 76". This might not be the case for someone who is 6' 6" tall but clearing the 5 foot door would be a problem as well. Curious how much more wind drag is created with that extra 18" of height? Maybe more then I realize. Website says a Partner stove is included in the 69k price. I assume it would go in the outside slide out kitchen. FYI- best stove on the market.
@@PlayingwithSticks thanks for letting me know they now make a foldable two burner. I will be picking one up when my camp chef wears out. They are pricey $519
Yes, they are pricey aren't they. I haven't used one yet. As you know I wasn't a huge fan of the originals. Definitely built to last, good simmer control, but the BTU ouput was a bit lacking. I have a feeling they are probably more powerful now. I need to check them out again.
MDC seems to be able to build and import both the Forte 9+ and the XT12HR with similar capabilities at lower price points. Love the Bean2, but I'd love to see comparisons with its competition.
This is amazing. Seriously. The price point puts it at Mammoth TL category. ...but, the Mammoth has interior shower, toilet, bunks plus king size bed, tall throughout, etc...this is lighter, but..
First off the Mammoth TL is likley way over the claimed 2,900 pound dry weight. The two spare wheels, rack, awining, rock sliders, shovel etc put it at 3,300 pounds dry. That's way to heavy for a Wrangler or Bronco and for Drew to review. It appears to come with a lot of the same issues as thier smaller units: 1. Carbon steel chassis and rock sliders that are not even powder coated " rust city" 2. It comes with a $80 two burner stove. 3. The Dickerson heater fireplace is only rated to 5,000 foot elevation. Other issues 4. Duel 5,200 pound Timbrens on a 4,500 gwr trailer is way to stiff 5. Heater is to close to bed 6. Standing room including shower is so small it's almost comical 7. It's to tall and skinny 8. No interior access to frig. 9. Awining is a nightmare to open and close. It's 9 feet off ground and set back. Look at FB group on all the issues.
While watching this video my mind was made up mid point that I was gonna purchase immediately… until that hefty price tag was revealed. $30,000 I would’ve purchased immediately, but 70+ I think I’ll take my chances and build my own. | B1 |⭐
Thanks Drew, always appreciate your videos. I’m going to preface my response with the fact that we are big fans of Bean. So much so that we are very close to picking up our own 2.0. We originally had thought we would get a black bean, with most of the bells and whistles. One of the big reasons we picked the 2.0 was the openness, the weight and the price. It’s not that we thought the black bean was overpriced, we just felt more comfortable with a trailer that weighed less and cost less. I’m not sure the people who feel the Squared is overpriced understand what it takes to produce a trailer like that. I can understand if you don’t want to spend that much, but comparing it to things that aren’t apples to apples is unfair. You get what you pay for is true more times than not.
What I find is once you get into these kind of narrow niches, it's hard for people to see the value versus some of the larger niches. They look like apples to apples on the surface, but it takes a while to pick up on the nuances
Man I've researched this thing and it would be perfect for me and my family. That price makes it impossible though. Hoping for a Bean/Lite version on day at that $30k mark.
After watching the vid three times and reading comments I think Bean missed the mark by not starting with a base unit meaning wired but not outfitted that the buyer can option themselves. I’m sure the quality is there, and it’s good that cheaper vehs can pull it because that would be necessary. Too bad, I love their stuff.
Damn I put a deposit down thinking it would be 40 to 45k. I can buy an outdoors rv 27 trx for that price. Guess I am going to go hiker trailer for an off-road weekend rig.
@@PlayingwithSticks Yeah was glad to see that it was refundable. Honestly the Fall 2025 and potential price adjustments they call out are also show stoppers. I do really like them I stopped by their office in SLC last year and they were great people.
I'm sorry but I dont see what's so innovative with this exactly other than Bean trying to see what price point they can get away with. I believe Coachman had this exact same square trailer with soft pop top for more than a decade before discontinuing it and changing the series name to a different design. Are folks so hell bent on needing power these days that they need a power bank system that cost $6k? My family's old popup had a propane heater that could function with just a single battery on the tongue to provide a spark occasionally, and sometimes turn on the cabin led light. We took it cross country like that; camping in the spring, late summer and early fall. That's sort of the issue with this trailer; it's so overbuilt and loaded to bear that it cant be used without a massive power system. Nobody who is going to buy one of these is going to need the "airbag suspension" that if it breaks on the road cant be fixed by a regular shop, you dont need a fridge - a well made cooler works perfectly well, RGB is pointless - just put a couple LED white and amber lights on the ceiling please, a shower useless in most cases where this will be used - you wont or cant use it in a regular campground, and this thing is too massive to take into most remote locations it can, and finally I'm one of those people against having built in water systems in a trailer - added weight and maintenance; dont need them.
It took me a while to see innovation as well. Most of us look at innovation as recreating the wheel. But, I find that typically means, within this industry, is going against what has worked for years. Why not take what has worked and make it better? Take the coachman that was built with sticks, glue, and screws (which was built to last 4 seasons) and make it last 4 decades. I think there was a lot of great designs in the past, that were great because they built upon previous designs. Don't throw out all that hard work that was done before us.
It fits in the small campgrounds and places harder to get to absolutely.. most cooler people that are camping for more than a few days got tired of coolers and prefer a fridge ..
@@thomasott9488 My personal trips are usually up to 2 weeks sometimes as long as month. The family trips when I was kid were 1-2 months in length while towing a large Coleman popup. A fridge was never used, and as Drew showed a properly packed cooler will retain its ice just fine for a decent amount of time. Nearly 20 years worth of family camping trips with that setup, and now 10 years of solo trips after I started living my own life. Why should we have to worry about our food security being dependent on a battery or shore power or a older style fridge plumbed into the trailer propane line? Its not worth the added cost.
@@HaddaClu , I totally understand friend, and to some point I agree.. I too have traveled very much throughout my life , not overlanding or in federal parks , but more or less campgrounds.. I have always used coolers as well, and I remember the days of coolers full of water and drenched food packages... some people I seen didn't want to leave base to get more ice or to far out of grid to get ice.. everyone has their own opinions and preferences, I would say what I think is people are more lazy to a sence and want the convenience of not having to deal with changing ice every few days.. I haven't been offgrid enough yet to really need the total setup , but I like having the extras .. I have a 2004 GMC Denali loaded to handle trips being able to live weeks with my setup.. is it to much , ya, probably.. it's new for me to have that extent of technology on my rig, but I just like having being able to do it.. I am a simple person, never done that , but for me it's more it's the technology of it and the hobby of having the best offgird truck.. I don't think I need it except for the power to keep my CPAP going , just new ideas for me to try more or less.. good conversation, thankyou friend
Pretty cool and capable looking trailer. Price is..... high, and if you're tall, you can't sleep in it. I'm 6'5" (77") and that only leaves maybe 3" of foot space, if it's a standard dimension queen. I had my Hiker Trailer made with the galley at my feet a few inches shorter so I can fit no problem, can't have Bean make it wider, lol.
I do like the ability to customize. Like you said, that is something I really value with Hiker. While they mass produce trailers. Well, mass by small ma and pa trailer standards, they still haven't given up the ma and pa vibe with those customizations.
@@PlayingwithSticks Yeah. I got mine back in 2019. It took a little while, but we didn't bug them and knew that it would take a bit. I think we got ours at the perfect time. We've had zero issues with it. Only issue is it doesn't get used enough, lol. Love the videos.
Really thought they were going to do a bed on the roofline like they do on pop top vans. Understand that adds some complexity/weight/etc but could be a cool feature.
We love our Mean Bean. Got it used for $25K. As much as I like the Bean2, That price point HURTS! There is no way I would pay $70-$75K for it. Maybe, and I mean maybe, I would consider it with a full outdoor kitchen, solar, and A/C at the price point. Shoot, I might as well pony up more cash and just get a full decked Oliver Trailer for our future trip through the Yukon and to Alaska!
I’m again a bit surprised a little bit about these bean trailers. I’m from Switzerland/Germany, and usually these trailers are a bit cheaper in the US than in Europe. But guys, that’s big money. Even fancier trailers with same quality CAN cost less. Still they’re awesome. I know a guy that builds similar trailers with similar quality with the same options, there you’ll end up at 20k tops. B2B price though - so I think high quality stuff like this should retail for 35-45k.
The raw materials alone are near 35k so I am baffled by the comparisons to campers that the raw materials that are 15k. For example the Artic Tern door is 1,200 plus while a typical mass produced rv door is 150. Drew has reviewed many budget rigs that maybe be of more interest to you.
The metal or aluminum strip running under the canopy on the inside how is that insulated from the outside? Many companies are having to cover these strips because of condensation dripping off
Awesome video, Drew. A few things: I so badly want to see some footage of this with the top down and someone inside. You got so close a few times but never did lol. Would love to get a feel for what it’s like. Also some content of the top being opening from start to finish. As you noted, I also want to know about a vent fan. For the price that needs to happen. Is the mattress different than my mean bean? Would love to know the dimensions. Do the 110 outlets work with that power system even if not on shore power? Lastly, needs a paper towel holder lol.
You know, beings you guys are taking a serious look at buying this trailer. If you let Bean know I bet they can make a video for you and throw it on facebook or something. The latching/setup of the top was almost instant. You'll like how easy they made that. But, I agree, I should have shown it with the top down.
@@PlayingwithSticksno worries! Ton of time before it comes out so I’m sure they will show this. Do you remember if that door has screen like the regular beans? It was nice to have the door open but leave bugs out.
this looks really awesome, but I'd ask if the bench can be 3 inches shorter.LOL I see his feet don't touch the floor...that's my issue and I hate that. :D
hmmm, converting it to a hard side pop up... lets see, we'll give it 3" on either side, so 7' across on the roof. call it 3.4' per side. for 1" thick roof + windows... BUT we hang he hinges at different levels. offsetting them. so we COULD pop the roof straight up about 3.3" per side or go for triangle inner panels using a rubber gasket along the "out side" of the panels would allow a water tight seal over the roof then when the inner walls are pulled in, the gasket comes in too... there might be some dripping or such if the outer walls were very wet but not likely enough to worry about. should be able to raise and lower the roof quick enough to prevent much rain or such from coming inside in a storm. the gasket would also act as a footer for the roof to "sit on" when raised... providing it extra strength. when down the panels would then be folded up into the roof bulge and locked in place, allowing free movement inside with it closed down. *looks innocent at drew*
that is a VERY nice camper....but a bit above my budget. If I win the lotto or my long lost uncle leaves me a few mils......love all the neat details and features...
Price is definitely a bit yikes, but it's a great feature set with 5KW Ecoflow power, distribution panel etc. Custom FOX suspension, compressors, etc. That's probably $8k there. Air adjust suspension another $3k. Build quality on the storage is awesome probably another $2k. TAB 320/400 is $35-55k and they are the leaders in the teardrop space ("boondock" version offroad) but sleep 2 instead of 3-4, this blows them away IF you want the feature set. US mostly doesn't have the hardcore multi week tough tracks offroad that this would kill for, you need to sell it in Australia vs CUB campers and you would do really well. It would be cool to have a shell/base model without all the bells and whistles for $38k ballpark. Layout is sweet, huge space for a small poptop. I don't know another poptop that has an easily replaceable top.
After seeing the video that Bean trailers posted I was actually hoping this week’s video would be of your new bean. Which version you got, which options, and the price it came to. Maybe remove the cost of the custom paint job. 😂
I love the video and my wife and I are looking to get into the small camper / square /teardrop. But looking at base price for this camper at $70,000.... no gd way.
I’m surprised enough people will pay that much to support production. It would be interesting to see how many small camper companies have gone out of business in the last decade.
@@PlayingwithSticks to be honest, you're right. I watched your whole review without checking the price then literally said "Whoa!" out loud when I got to the end. Nice rig, but never gonna happen for me. I do love your content though, so thank you for it!
Morning Drew.. IF I hadn't put my down payment on my cargo-conversion I'm about to do, I'd buy this.. OR 🤔, maybe if they come out with (like you said)a more budget friendly Bean□, I'd sell trailer and buy that! But we'll see...😉 Hoobilly
Hey..Sup. 🤔Good question, lol.. I pick up hopefully the week of the 16th, I had to order it! 7' interior, ladder racks for solar, 2 MaxAir fans (1-front, 1-back) and two Egress 30x30 windows. 1 on each side over the wheelwells. 2- 3500lb torsion axles too.. Oh trust me, I'll have you a pick up video uploaded Dude!!!
@thevideostump46239 you got me wondering, and I'm probably wrong. If it was me I would install one Max Air fan first before cutting both holes. Those things are beastly in terms of the air they can pull, I wouldn't be surprised if one could pull enough air. But maybe your cargo trailer is much bigger than I'm picturing. Every trailer I've ever been in with a maxair fan, I only use it on setting two or three.
Nice to see Bean still innovating. This "Squaredrop" would work for the "fast and light" traveling camping family who have or would easily outgrow their more traditional teardrop.
Hi drew, sorry i'm late. hey drew, the trailers "base dry weight" is 2300 lbs. whats the max weight on that chassis? this is more of a hybred between a teardrop and a standard trailer. Again, notice they have the poptop but they didn't put rails up there for a bed. You could EASY fit a bed.. or 2... up there, so you could have 2 kids sleeping up there, adults down... RGB, ugg, i'd almost feel allergic to running the red lights at night. Just bad flashbacks from the CUCV radio pod with the red lights on inside at night... bad flashbacks. Interior cook stove? in truth, i can see a lot of people just going with portables. Now sure, you can get one of those big colman cook stoves with the huge metal flaps... but why? Canadian tire for example, offers little, single burner 8000 btu cook tops... small, easy to set up and use, you can move it around as needed. this lets you use the table as a cooking area or a prep area... You could also keep an air fryer in storage. when you are on shore power, or if you just have enough power on hand. most are sub 2000 watts so you can "bake" air fry stuff in a few minutes. again they pack small and store small so good option for internal cooking quick. who's this for? This... is for "mid level" campers... People who are going to spend weeks out... Not quite "full time" camper life, but not the one weekend a month family. Winterized tell me its for hunters, its for people who will work in the field. Supprised they didn't have floor threw holes and a skirt for it for ice fishing. heck, picture towing this thing with a big heavy truck thats got its own bed cab camper. Driving out to a spot setting up the bean, connetcting the bean and the bed camper with a tarp and side flaps. using the bed camper for your cooking, plus its full wet bath... while sleeping 1-2 in the bed camper, and 1-2 in the bean. 3 beds, 2 bedroom, 1 bath, full kitchen, bean for cargo and storage space. that as your base or centerpoint for a hunting or fishing trip
I remember the max weight on the chassis being quite big. To the point it would be hard to get anywhere near it. Yes, with those rails I am picturing Taxa Mantis. They made it work. A little utilitarian and massive amounts of metal for us. I would love to see a version of those rails/bunks that are a little softer. I agree with you on the cookstove. I guess my thought was just who would buy this $70K trailer? Probably someone who wants everything. I feel like they would want a built in cooktop as well, maybe I don't understand this market. When the Meerkat came out, very similar interior setup. In that video I got so many comments saying they needed a cooktop, but maybe it was because it came with a dinky butane stove. I think if Bean through in a dinky stove on a $70K trailer people would push for something else. I think it was smart of them to just say bring your own. Love your take on who it is for. When you said it, I just pictured my family. That's probably why I really appreciate this design. We aren't full time, but we aren't weekend warriors either. I say that, but this season has only been shorter trips for us. We are due for long camping season (fall)! Jennifer as usual, you knocked it out the park here. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts on this camper.
@@PlayingwithSticks Cook stove- You understand the market but remember, this thing is designed for cooking outdoors with the big prep area out doors... So thats where they expect most people to cook. hence a backup internal cook top for rainy days or winter... doesn't nessessarly need to be "fixed" thus having a small mobile unit... that could be brought out and used as an extra burner for the outside set up or just keep inside in storage till needed is good.
I completely agree in terms of usability this is the trailer that our family would want. But the more I make these videos the more I realize there's another family out there who has much different needs than we do
@@PlayingwithSticks This would go over big on the Asian market too. At least for the options it has. its size configuraiton (if it had the rafter beds it would sleep 6). the only thing missing would be the kotatsu. if you could somehow fit a kotatsu in there LOL. (*tilts her head* are you really looking that up?) And again for cooking, add in an air fryer and you can cook almost everything inside in an emergency. (well that and the butane top for boiling water for retort pouches.)
Someone please describe how this could ever pencil out? What itinerary is this designed for? Big trip to Yosemite? This costs as much as a 5 month stay in the Ahwahnee. Alaska Highway? The tent top will get soggy and you’re still pooping in the woods.
The price for this little thing is utterly absurd. Spending $70k can get me so much more room in a bigger camper (perhaps even a used camper van). These little things costing so much is really getting out of hand.
I can get an Airstream Caravel 16RB for close to the same price. Or a Bambi 20FB or 22FB for the same price. Or a Basecamp 16 or Basecamp 20 for $13K-$22K cheaper. Trailer pricing is nutty.
For that extraordinary price I'd want the hard wall composite pop-top, a drain at the entryway and shower hose for winter inside shower. Otherwise, I'd just prefer a minimal van or flatbed build.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but vistibule has always been in my top three trailers. I have even had the chance to go inside one and inspect the entire build. But unfortunately I've never come across one or had the chance to be able to film one. It seems like vistibule land is more Midwest and East Coast. I don't ever run across them here in the mountain West. If I get the chance, I won't think twice about doing one
I get the sentiment that it's too expensive but it's sort of like checking out a luxury home in that you can see what others are doing and apply many of the same tricks for far less money. And keep in mind a lot of these companies are purposely catering to a very small slice of the market with such trailers. Some people think nothing of 70K and just want to have something to tow behind their $100,000 Yukon Denali AT4 to complete the rugged glamper look. Remember, people buy half million plus dollar RV's every year and trade them in without having put more than 20,000 miles on them. It seemed like something to do and they had the money so they bought it and found out it wasn't as easy and glamorous as staying in the Yellowstone Old Faithful Inn. Or that they never left Florida anyway so why bother with the upkeep. Why does an Earth Roamer cost a million dollars? Because someone will pay it. Can you travel anywhere in the world, rent vehicles and stay in great lodging even remotely for the rest of your life for less than a million bucks? Absolutely. But some folks just want certain things and they have the money. And if there's money to be made there's someone out there to make the product for that person. Given that a Class B or C RV with far more equipment and the vehicle that comes with it can be had for less makes this a hard sell for most though. And for truly rough road travelers they usually prefer smaller and lighter. Jeeps don't tow a lot and the vehicles that can are traversing terrain where a smaller trailer is far more navigable than a large one.
Thank you for sharing your feedback. When you get in more of these small campers you can see what they were aiming for here. The u-shaped seating and table that converts is a neat feature for many, but that was what they were trying to avoid in this build. That was what I was talking about throughout the video in terms of living more square vs rectangular hallway and less modular components that take longer to convert. There goal was to avoid tighter spaces and converting beds to tables. For what you are looking for, fortunately this is the most common design of 13-17 trailers so you will be able to find plenty of layouts that fit your needs. I would start with fiberglass trailers like scamps, casitas, etc.
Unfortunately trailers like these are out of our wheelhouse. We used to have 1,800lbs as our max, now we have pushed to 2,800lbs. But, Arkto is just too much of a reach for us.
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I really like this! I was thinking $30-$35k. But $70k! Even if I had the money for this, I wouldn’t buy it. I could buy a used Sprinter with full bath for about $80k. And, be able to use the sprinter for multiple use cases.
Thank you for sharing. Love hearing not only what people think about these trailers, but what other trailers or forms of camping would be a better alternative.
I agree. This is a pretty rad unit but given it's cost, I don't find any real value in it. I'd find something different to invest my money in.
Same for us. We were excited about this, but the price definitely put a damper on our excitement. Like you said, at this price, there are a bunch of alternatives.
a 4x4 sprinter is more practical than hauling a trailer, even for off-road. 70k is insane. Luxury prices for something most people who can afford luxury won't even bother doing. 70k is a lot of vacations, I don't have to settle with "camping" for that price. I can buy and abuse many "glamping" tents for 70k, you cannot tell me my experience will change with this trailer.
@@PlayingwithSticks, its definitely a better alternative , but these rigs cost as much as a full size trailers and some mobile homes.. especially now , this market will dry up because many of the people I know that are buying these small teardrop type trailers can't afford these prices.. I totally understand the money going into these offgrid trailers, but I sure the hell are not spending 70 to 100 thousand on these trailers, when you can get them for 12 to 20 thousand..
I love the durability, better material and off grid setups and unlike most, I understand, but these prices 😬😬
We like it. Just more than we hoped it would be. The $70k-$75k was a dealbreaker for us.
I had a feeling that number would be tough for folks to swallow. Good seeing you Garret!
it going to be a deal breaker for many... but at the same time. for those that are going to be using a camper A lot. using it for weeks or months on end. the fact that its rugged, has space in side for cold weather use, operates as a tear drop when needed. Its price becomes more acceptable.
its far more then a person who's just going out for 2-3 days a month needs. but it lacks some of the things a full time living needs.
Yeah you nailed it. It's kind of that sweet spot in terms of days of travel
$70K??
“Who is this for?”
Not this hombre…WOW!! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I get it….the Bean brand is quality. However, this is getting into the Airstream price space, but without a full bath, toilet and shower (and other amenities). Incredible what they can ask these days.
Sure, there are people that will buy them. But I’d bet that rules out 95% of your audience.
That 95% comment, that's probably pretty accurate.
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🤔, more like 98🤣
My wife and I are one.
haha! Love it.
Good comment, “getting near airstream prices”…agree, I was think $70k for this is getting near Australian pressurized and completely dialed in off road trailers. Kimber, etc.
Nice trailer here, price is too much for our family.
My wife and I were super excited about this camper when you first made a video a year ago or so. Once we heard of the pricing, we were bummed. No solar, no vent fan, no AC, no screen door, no front box. Maybe some of these feature will come, but will be hard to have the price go even higher. Still really like it, but the love has been lost. For the money, TetonX or Arkto trailers seem to offer a lot more for the money (still too high). We just really wanted something with inside seating/standing/night toilet/dog space. The search continues. Love the channel, appreciate all the info and seeing the family. Keep up the great work Drew!
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on this trailer. While it doesn't tick all the boxes for you and the price, I'm glad to see more and more folks coming up with designs like this. Like you mentioned folks want a little extra space. I think we will eventually see budget lines of these types of trailers start to pop up. I think we will all just have to be patient for a bit.
You guys sound just like us. Christine and I have been looking at the Arkto. A few years ago, we investigated the Teton X. Really liked it but the lead time was pretty bad. Lead time on this is pretty bad too. Maybe it will get better once production is in full swing.
No screen door is actually huge as silly as the at sounds. Great for dog owners or just wanting even more air flow. No fan, that has to be solved.
Have you checked out Coachmen Clipper? I was interested in that one but ended up getting the Little Guy Micro Max
@@shanangf778 Thanks for rec. Looking to have more off-road capability.
Geezus - for 70K$ you can get a full sized luxury camper, you can even get a smaller airstream. Sorry man but this is way too expensive. Might as well just self-build at this point.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on this one.
@@Dingbat1967 I would take this over that small sized Airstream. They are mass produced in IN ...eek. So many qc issues. I do understand 70k is a lot.
airstream is a completely different buyer that is okay with limited off road capability and poor fit and finish. If airstream was quality, I would own one and Bean would not exist. I would have not designed my own trailer.
Hey playing with sticks…when are you going to show AFFORDABLE CAMPERS ? And stop showing campers that are TOO expensive.
@@scottdurkee9162 That's what fascinates me. There are people who build teardrops for a few hundred or a couple of thousand dollars. Even the cheapest commercial units are above 10K$ ... madness!
What a beauty!
It's clean and airy. With no gear in there , i was picturing it fully geared out for one or two or 4 people. 4 adults. 2 adults plus 2 littles, plus dogs. I think it would still feel airy or spacious because there are no upper cabinets.
This is designed to off road or overland so you get out where the big critters are. Because that canvas top is so high it puts you some what out of range for a courious bear visitor. I could well picture a bear coming out of those woods to forage for food!
This is such a great reimagining of all the food and comfort needs for a standy trailer. Price aside, I love it. They did a wonderful job!
I love the nature chalks .
Jenn gets it! I got to first hand experience 4 people in this trailer. Remember when I showed you the prototype of this trailer? When we ran that trip Brigham's entire family stayed in that trailer the entire trip. But, get this...Drew stayed with them too! Haha. Poor guys. I was surprised how well the space lived with all of us in there. When everything is stored down low, no matter how much gear or people you have, the trailer tends to live the same. Where other trailers our family have used just overflows. Yes our traditional. pop up only had low storage, but it wasn't near enough. all of our gear ended up everywhere!
Thanks for the comprehensive video. I think there is a niche market for this camper: well built, off road, roomy. I like that there is so much variety in campers and you can get what works for your situation.
I'm a complete beginner/novice but found this channel via interest in the beanstock 2.0. I'm just looking for a simple, easy, and affordable upgrade to a regular tent so this is like looking at a mansion. I'm so appreciative of all the people here who are recognizing that the price is "ridiculous". But, also knowing how the bean squared came to be, I feel like the makers just wanted to see what would happen if they just dreamed up something with everything they wanted. It's fun to see the passion even if I'm not the target audience.
I like your take on this!
A perfect camper for my family of three not too big not too small just perfect for what we needed it for 😊
This may be the first comment we got where someone didn't have an issue with the trailer. Go Brian! It's that price. It brings out the papa bear in all of us. Haha.
Drew, thank you for the great video. And thank you for doing it even though I’m sure you knew your inbox would be filled with negative comments about the price.
I think Bean hit it out of the park. For the growing family where a teardrop is too small but who don’t want to embrace the giant trailer life style, this is perfect. It truly checks almost all the boxes. Non-convertible master bed, an entire second bed for the kids where the space won’t be completely wasted when they outgrow it or move away, enough room to stand and get dressed, the option to get out of the weather if needed, small and nimble enough to get off-road if wanted and light enough to still be pulled by a large number of non-traditional towing vehicles.
Bean chose some outstanding components for this trailer. I understand wanting something to DIY, but for those that work a full time job and want to come home and spend time with the family and not spend it working on the object that is supposed to be fun, this is almost the perfect buy once cry once option.
All that being said, this is a very niche product. It isn’t going to fit what the masses want. Does that mean Bean was wrong, nope, it means that they built it to target a small group of people. I have no doubt in the future there will be an entire line of Squared, just like with the teardrops.
Great intro there. You are exactly right. When I film a trailer like this, I usually reach out to the manufacturer the day before I release the videos and say, "get ready for the tough comments." I really like how you took the time to explain who this camper was for. I agree. I have met many folks like this on my journey. dual working parents both holding prominent positions. Children involved in every extra-curricular activity known to man. This family just wants to get out, get out quick, but still have the comforts from home. They've been working their tail off and there was a season of life where setting up camp was exactly what they needed, and that season may come again. But in this season they want to recreate. Get to the camp and get on the trails. And when they are done, they want to quickly ship out, get home, rinse/lather/repeat.
Well, that was interesting. It’s too much for me, the whole setup, the electronics and I didn’t see a fan. Oh and the price! Yeah, that’s a lot for this poor gal. I just want to go camping. No frills, I’m good with no toilet, no lights, ( camp lantern with a battery), carry my own water, etc. I always enjoy your reviews, Drew 🩷
Hi Ramona. I really like your take on this. I think there is definitely a spot in the market for a bare bones version of this. That is what Charles was trying to create. I'm bummed he never got to see the dream come to fruition. But, that's life. At least we got to see the vision.
I could get a fully loaded Armadillo with solar for half that price. I guess this camper is for Warren Buffet lol😅
I like those Armadillos. That is my type of trailer.
$70k !? You can pickup a jeep rubicon and a hiker trailer for that much.
That’s crazy. $30k-to maybe $40k.
$70k for that’s ridiculous. That’s airstream pricing without a bathroom.
Good point. You could definitely put together a good tow vehicle, trailer package for this price.
Yeap, at $70k, there are a ton of different options and ways to go.
Even a Bigfoot or Oliver-I’m a fan of quality-wish them luck at that price point.
@@freeian2 Oliver and Bigfoot. You got my attention!
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Thanks for responding. Big fan of the channel.
Love to see you (if you haven’t already) do a review of the Tribe Trailers Expedition 500.
Full heat and AC. Roof raises on electric actuators to head-room camper size. Can hold a larger refrigerator. Composite panels like you suggested, not canvas. All the basic fit and finish of this trailer but with a bath and shower for $50k.
Seems like a much better buy to me. Packs down smaller and has the same if not more creature comfort features.
Idk if you’re sponsored or have any specific company affiliations, but I’d love to know what your thoughts are on the best rugged off-road camper at these higher end price points? Your thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks again for your time. Keep up the great work.
Love the space and design of this trailer. I’ll wait for the Bean Squared Stock with a lower profile less sophisticated suspension that will allow it to fit in a 7 foot garage.
I like the sound of that version.
@@PlayingwithSticksI like the possible price point of that version.
Agreed!
This is an excellent video and a very cool product! So many comments about the price. It is expensive, but that is because it is expensive to make. With Bean passing the 1000th trailer built there is a market out there for products like this as hard as it is for people to imagine. There are people who will spend that kind of money and buy a trailer without indoor plumbing. I love my Bean; we are just wrapping up our 4th year with it. It still remains my most favorite toy with wheels I have ever bought. The Squared is a great step and I love that Bean is willing to put in the work that pushes the boundaries of what is available and possible.
It is good to see great campers like this - truly well engineered and ready for those camping excursions. I think this also gives inspiration to those of us not in this financial league to innovate, DIY, and make do - and come up with solutions that work for us and fall within our own budgetary limitations. Thanks!
You need to do a video where you just say 'These prices are STUPID and I won't review any more of them!". Tell these companies to take a hike.
Haha. I try to keep the channel well rounded. While the majority of my content is budget, I do want people to see most of the options out there. However, with that said I am in no hurry to go out and film a high budget trailer anytime soon. Haha.
So cool that you can use this with the top down and pop it up when you need more space! Great content!
Definitely a bean2 lite would be something we would consider purchasing. Being able to upgrade modularly in the future would be a fantastic way to get into this model. The new layout is fantastic! I love it that you can still be inside with the top down, especially if you are in bear country or severe weather. Bean if you are listening, please have a bean2 lite in your future, and we hope to see you at expo east with this model next month.
Great point on the bears and weather. I would definitely use this as my winter camping base with that top down. I think it would make a great trailer for that.
Bean definitely put together a pretty inclusive camper. It has more than I would need, but I just bought a used 2018 Riverside Retro camper that has water, toilet, shower that I don't need. (The price was right $19k, and condition is very good.)
Congratulations Leslie! You know May and I suckers for the retro look.
I don’t need to repeat other comments about price. But it is very well designed and really attractive. It will be nice if there’s a stripped down version without the off road stuff and extras for those of us who stay in middle-country at state parks etc. I would love just the compartments, windows and beds/futon. Gorgeous work and it’s on my lottery ticket list. Great content and review as per usual.
Thank you for taking the time to share this. I had a feeling there would be a good number of people like you who saw the value in this trailer, but would prefer a more highway oriented version. So glad to hear you are enjoying the content. I love hearing that.
Probably paying for some of that R&D. I always joke about needing that winning lottery ticket.
Yikes. Keeping my Subaru Crosstrek & Springbar Hot Tent. Good on you for sharing. I’m sure there’s a market out there.✌️
Nice setup. Thanks for watching!
For a small family, this trailer actually is a really good form factor. It's close to ideal in my opinion. A little light duty off-roading and camping sprinkled in between some highway miles with a trailer of this weight and this configuration would be sweet. One feature it's missing though, even as just an option, is to have a front overhead modular bunk shelf that could be installed to sleep another individual when the top is popped. Everyone's talking about the $70k price, and they're right. Even if it all makes sense from the manufacturer's side, it's a hard ask compared to other alternatives.
I'd like to see a 'back to basics' equipment option to remove expensive components and bring down the price. Notably, returning to manual leveling jacks, no on-board air system and an ecoflow optional delete so buyers can plug in their own power source up front into the system. These alone would theoretically bring the component/labor cost downwards of maybe $15k to a price point of $55k for the consumer. It may free up room for more storage as well, maybe. That's a huge difference for effectively the same trailer.
I should have used you for my con section. You said this much more eloquently than I can. And a couple of people have mentioned the bunks. That would be a nice addition
@@PlayingwithSticks I appreciate the kind words! I think you legit did an excellent job. I had the benefit of hearing your opinions first. :D
There's a lot to love in this trailer layout. Other than the consumer price tag, this thing literally ticks almost all of the boxes. Fingers crossed we'll see more designs like this here in Utah for the fall and upcoming spring RV expo shows! Hoping to see some that are cost conscious for the broader end of the market. :)
Such a great trailer with tons of room. Just can’t justify the price tag.
That is starting to be the theme in this comment section. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks Drew! There is a lot to like on this trailer! I think they should have made 2 versions of this trailer. One with the hard sided folding composite pop up tent for the price they are selling the canvas version and sell the canvas version for $50,000.
Brad, you got to stop giving these tips. You provided more than enough meals and company during Expo Mountain West to last a lifetime. I appreciate you Brad!
@@PlayingwithSticks I really appreciate you and your wonderful videos.
Another great review 👍
Best wishes to you and yours
Patrick, my friend! Good to see you.
Love the idea... A lite would be more my speed. A bit of solar and a couple batteries is plenty for me, delete the RGB lights, toilet, interior sink, and maybe downgrade some components for a lower price tag and I'd be interested. I like the simplicity and straightforward idea of this, very customizable and adaptable to many different ways of camping. I especially like the kitchen, I love small campers that let me use my own stove or stow it for tons of extra prep space. Definitely need ac though here in Florida... Kinda surprised that wasn't thought of for this price.
I second this.
Thanks for the video, Drew. Aside from liking the tent top, all I can see are design flaws. Outside: the kitchen. how do you use the table and get to the drawer? They block each other. Does the awning go over the door? The shower tent looks like it would open over that big hatch door and block it? Inside: The table big enough for 1? It blocks the sink. You couldn't even use it for a prep table when cooking. The cooler blocks the door. So many controls are at floor level. The kids and the dog would be constantly bumping into them and doing who knows what. Over sized queen.? Why? Takes up more space and makes it hard to find sheets. I can't think of anything so poorly thought out. Still I enjoyed the tour.
This is so fun Mary. I have always loved your comments. But, I think this is the first time you really took the time to break a trailer down into individual components. And you shared so many things I haven't heard anyone mention yet. Love it! Thank you so much for taking the time to add to this community.
easy to open the draw while using the table, awning goes over the door, table folds up and down, two can eat at it. Frig can be3 used while cooking indoors and out. Bed will take Queen sheets.
Yes, this is the base model for $70,000. If you want the full options boon dock edition with solar, you just need to spend another $20,000. Lol😅
When I first read this comment, I thought maybe...I mean how much does a little solar cost. BUT, throw in the upgraded fully plumbed slide out kitchen, the solar, and AC you probably are getting closer to that price.
Yeap, options can add up fast.
They forgot who there customers are !
More power to Bean playing in the premium high-end space. I wish them great success with this trailer as long as it helps allow Bean to continue to produce the Bean Stock 2.0 at it current price point -- for at least two more years when I can get one!
When a patriot camper, which is still a tent basically, is 72,000, it’s not hard to understand why Bean can price the trailer so high. Heck, even Patriot just announced a similar sized trailer to bean squared and it’s $112,000. People buy these whether you believe it or not. I do agree that the trailer as a whole is uninspired and bland. But this is a prototype so it ideally gets better
They are calling this their final version. While I think it will upgrade over time. The prototype was our last video, this is what will be going to market.
Really liked this one. Had components I’d use without a bunch of junk I don’t want to deal with or pay for. Love the option to zip out the tent for repairs and it’s silly but the little things matter…the integrated air compressor! The price new was a bit of a shocker, maybe in a few years and used it would be the trailer for me.
Yes, I think this trailer speaks to a very specific person. You either get it or don't. Glad to hear you get it.
70k is an ABSOLUTE JOKE
By the time I go to bed I bet I will hear a similar comment 13 more times. haha.
And just think, you can buy an Airstream for less, let that sink in 😞
Thanks for another great overview, Drew. I like your thoughts about a potential future "light" version, with a simplified interior and fewer "base" features with the pop top as an option for those that want extra space.
Thanks James! I think we are going to hear this a lot in the comment section on this video.
Great video again 🎉. I think $45k would be a better price for the Bean 2. I feel it needs a shield for those two propane tanks in front for the rocks going down the road
Thank you! You are the first person to suggest the shield. It's cool to see everyone providing different feedback.
@@PlayingwithSticks welcome 🍻
Hey Drew, great video as always.
I really do like the electrical system. It looks like it has great suspension as well. Although I'm skeptical on the airbags due to the possibility of them wearing out popping when you are out in the field. Hopefully they have a Timberon3500 suspension.
Or something like that to allow that bag failure to not stop your trip. It looks like it's pretty bare aside from that. Price is ridiculous. There is so much more they need to add to make that cost reasonable. Or take 20 grand off of that price. I realize I am being a little hard on them, but for that price it should be bulletproof, and have many accessories.
I've always valued your opinion. You are realistic, but also not shy to pay the big bucks for a quality piece of gear. So getting your take on this trailer is very valuable. You know the market, you know the components. The more we talk, I see we have very similar camping needs. But, you aren't afraid to put the money where you see value, where sometimes my frugality make me make poor decisions. Haha. All to say I really appreciate the feedback you provide on here. I often look to hear what you will see because your feedback week in and week out has been very balanced. In terms of suspension, I believe it is their own in house trailing arm suspension they are using. This is not in my wheelhouse, but my take is you still have the shocks and trailing arm, so it should get you through until you repair those airbags. Anyone out there able to elaborate on this thought? I assume the airbags just reduce the travel on the springs, meaning they don't do all the heavy work right? Similar to airbags on a 4x4 vehicle. These are new to me as I have never taken out a trailer with airbags.
@@PlayingwithSticks I went to their site to see more of their stuff. And I was happy to see that they have a 25 gallon water tank as well as a partner stove. Although I believe the Dometic stove sink insert would be better. On their site they have a great picture of the trailing arm, airbag, Fox shocks with reservoir. It is a very nice setup although, if that are bag goes all the way out it will sit on the bump stops and you will nurse it back to somewhere where you can get it fixed. Driving on a fully drooped suspension for shocks is not a good idea. I could see washboard Roads doing a number on things.
Your words are too kind.
What you need to go camping isn't really a lot. It's all about what you want that takes up the room and expense. Ha! :-)
Much love to your family as always😁
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All new Cloud suspension by bean.
It's a TH-cam short under that title. Ir gives us a full explanation of the bean suspension.
@sierramantrvlnus I think maybe I just assumed without those airbags the shocks would be weighted to support the trailer. I'm kind of just picturing how I use an airbag inside my coils. Let's say on the rear suspension of a Subaru towing an 1800 lb teardrop. I have a lot to learn in this area
@@PlayingwithSticks you never know until you get put into the situation. About 4 years ago I was put into the situation so I kind of learned some things.
I have an F-150 4 x 4 that I added some stuff to and a shell with a carpet kit on the inside. Set it all up for camping and has my kids were born and grew up they got to Camp with Dad in the truck. Very simple camping . The ex-wife always wanted a trailer so we got the big trailers. For her.
All my camping gear fit in a plastic tub and a milk crate.
Your mention of the Bean Squared Lite idea got me thinking and right now, if the price would be low enough on that glorious unicorn, then I wouldn't need much convincing to get one to Australia.
In the meantime... If I won the lottery, then I could have my 4WD + camper cake and eat it too. I would import one of these into Australia as-is with every bell & whistle, turn the corner with the fridge into a shower/toilet cubicle, have a 2 person sized table on a swivel mount and move the fridge and sink & tap to the slide. It would be similar to a lot of cheaper Aussie campers but better because most of them are a bit bloated, cramped and heavy, which is not ideal for the way my wife and I (and our dogs) like to camp or for towing by my beloved modified Wrangler.
Always a good watch.
This camper is for someone, but not many. Obviously it is awesome, but I think it is too awesome. A big part of tiny trailer camping is finding solutions and modifying as you go...I might argue that is the primary draw to tiny camper camping. When everything is solved for you (at a steep price) im not sure what there is left to be doing out there. They may as well sell it pre packed with clothes and basic camping supplies as I could also argue that is what would please the ones who will be buying this....deep pockets looking for a plug and play camping experience with the "look at me" vibe.
But again, its awesome...id love to stay in one for a night...and then get back to camping.
Haha. I really enjoyed this breakdown. I agree, half if not more than half the fun of camping is the process. That's why we ended up with a paired down camper. We actually missed that part of the camping experience.
Yes you have options for another $30,000. You should at least get a lockable storage box for $70,000. A person could easily creep those propane tanks lol!😅
If you are paying $70K I think you aren't too worried about the 1 in 1,000 chance of a propane canister going missing. Haha.
It is against code/law to put locks on propane storage.
True, $70k is the starting point.
Very well thought! I love it!
Hey that makes 2 of you! Haha. Love it. Good to see someone see the value in this.
@@PlayingwithSticks Quality have a price, obviously! But your idea of a more basic and budget friendly Bean Squared is excellent!
So it's basically a souped up tent on wheels. It seems like the focus is on sleeping and electrical. Everything to make food, eat, and bathroom facilities (except the pull-out toilet) has to be set up and is outside. The inside sink is really limited. I'd rather have a kitchen and bathroom set up in a trailer this size than a work space for this price.
Yep, I can tell you are not the target demographic here. While it looks like they are prioritizing sleeping and electrical, the priority is actually outdoor cooking and living. Sounds strange, but just keep watching those videos of owner walkthroughs and you will start seeing the advantages.
Price is a no go. Wow, that was shocking. I suspect only hardcore camping families would even consider it.
I think a lot of folks will be shocked by this price. I'm interested to see who ends up buying this type of camper. Is it hardcore camping families or folks who appreciate having the best? Or maybe a whole different market.
I think this is a very sweet trailer.
I’d love to have one.
It costs more than twice as much as our little Casita 17’.
Good seeing you! I think you are echoing what many of us trailer owners are thinking. We all like this trailer, would use this trailer, but will stick with what we have.
I begin to scratch my head at the “high price” comments. This is ridiculously high - for ME. But I ain’t the target audience. And clearly neither are many of the commenters. But Bean does its research. There ARE people who pay this kind of money for this kind of rig. That is who this is made for. Let them enjoy. Find the rig you can afford and enjoy.
The more I get to know the folks at Bean, the more what you say is valid. They do some pretty robust market studies. They wouldn't be making this trailer if they didn't know if there was a market there. Great point Dean.
@@PlayingwithSticks, the market is there now , because in general is a new faze for many that are looking for a new direction of relaxation and peace ... although I do understand the work involved and being a popular industry now , I don't think that fad will last long at them prices when there are other small businesses that are offering a similar product cheaper .. I love your content, keep up the great work
Everyone commenting on the price, negatively, and I agree, it’s not my price point either. But 😉 In a year or two, I’d bet some, even many, of the ones who could afford it will have tired of the whole fad and you can pick them up cheap.
@@nothere7198 exactly 💯 😊
I love this Trailer
This has the look of those robust Aussie overlanding trailers you see in videos splashing through rivers and covering swaths of terrain in places like Siberia. Fun to imagine the places you could go! Love the high-end functionality (Truma, ecoflow) over rv-style bells and whistles. In awe of the super niche features like air bags and compressors that are for serious off-road adventures and prepper types, but expect that the demographic for that is pretty small. (I always wonder where people really take these in the U.S.). Still, an admirable design, although some softer woody interior colors would be nice rather than macho black.
Wow on the price. 70k? I will continue to pursue Tiny Camper Company Kong XL with the same type of roof top tent.
Great review as always.
I am really excited about Tiny Camper Companies most recent offerings. Once they switched to composite they became high on my radar!
bean there, done that. God bless
Hey good sir!
I'm not going to comment further on the price as it isn't Bean's fault that there are people in the world that are eager to pay a premium to do the most simplest of things. So hopefully Bean is reading the future outdoor market correctly and plan to show this new rig at every commercial RV and boat show nationwide.
But looking at Squared reminds me of some of the ways Stock 2.0 could be refined. For one, I always thought Stock 2.0 should have had a slide out stove and counter top (think nested on top of each other). You pull out the stove and right under is a locking extension counter/table top you pull out further (or vice versa). You still would be able to retain ample interior storage in the rear cabin. Furthermore, a pull-down, wood veneer tambour panel to close off the rear, open storage space would have been nice too. And from a purely aesthetic perspective, I am not a fan of the flimsy looking fenders either. But I'm sure this is due to cost-saving measures.
Also Bean, could you please make a Bean Mini? An even smaller 4x7, galley-less, extreme off-road trailer? I, for one, would love this! And I'm definitely not alone given the quietly growing segment of mini-trailers being built specifically for the overlanding side by side enthusiasts. These guys are doing these very remote, backcountry trails and sleeping in amazing little off-road trailers. And most side by sides can tow up to 1,500lbs! I don't own a SxS but the appeal of a rugged, little off-road trailer pushes the buttons for a lot of outdoor enthusiasts. Just look at what the competition is doing with these smaller trailers!
Anyway, as a perspective teardrop buyer, this is all just my 2 cents...
Love that you took the time to share this. These are the type of comments that are gold for manufacturers. And as an enthusiast, I really enjoy them as well.
People are absolutely eager that have the capitol to invest in these rigs, but there are many companies competing and I feel there is only a short market where these individuals that can afford these will keep that market going, when that runs out , the common people won't be continuing that trend.. I understand the business, but risky when you can purchase these Australian models that offer much more for them costs
@@PlayingwithSticks - You're welcome, Drew. Your content has been an invaluable research tool for me. Thank you!
@@thomasott9488 - My hunch is that you are right. But one can't ever underestimate what "foolish" things a person will do with their money. The real elephant in the room is the used market. Inventory is piling up and there will be great deals to be had. And I'm not just talking about the commercial RV brands either. I have seen the smaller, custom niche brands sit on the classified section for months before being fire sold. It's just a matter of time before we start to see all those overlander toys and gear that was purchased in 2020-2022 get even more deeply discounted.
@@thomasott9488 - My hunch is that you're right. I think the elephant in the room that can't be ignored is the used market. This might be the market disruption that could further hurt new sales in the mid-to-long term.
I'll stick with my Runaway Rouser. All composite, under 1000 pounds, comes with a/c, can stand up without opening anything, can build out however one wants, and costs under 10K. I put a bunk bed and kitchen in mine, for under 500 dollars. Quite a deal!
Love the Rouser! Great choice of trailer to build out. Good seeing you on here!
Clever design
Nice trailer and i was intrigued by it the first time you made a video. But damn, that price is outrageous. 😅 will stick with my Micro Max. ❤️😜
MicroMax, NICE!
I like the compact size (fits in garage), and the floor space is nice and open. Would like fewer delivered features, but that’s just my preference. All those electronics seem a bit like overkill to me. Still, very capable camper.
I like your take on this my friend.
@@PlayingwithSticks
Onward in the search ....
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I’m guessing chin by Thanksgiving.
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Maybe by Halloween. What do you think?
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How are you and family doing Drew?
How are you and East doing at growing out the hair?
These RV prices are insane. When I compare what I’ve paid for three different fifth wheels over the last 18 years, it’s just unreal what’s happened. UNREAL.
While I agree these prices are wild. Comparing something like this to a 5th wheel are two different worlds in terms of quality. 5th wheels are designed to last four seasons. These are designed to last 4 decades. The campers on this channel are a bit different then what you are used to seeing come out of the large rv industry. We focus on smaller manufacturers who are handcrafting quality trailers. Does that justify the high prices for all these trailers in 2024? No. Just saying you may enjoy watching more of these videos to help you understand how different this market is then the 3 previous trailers you purchased.
Drew as usual, excellent review! I am impressed with the fit and finish of all Bean trailers. They have done a great job with this new flagship model. The price is not that bad and right in line with the market.
All the components are top knotch!
Love the couch and extra wide Queen!
Suspension and chassis look incredible! Wish they offered a 3-5 five year warranty instead of just 1 year.
Way more pros than cons.
Some of the cons for me personally:
Why a pop-up at all. Could have gone full hard sided with 6' 4" head room. That entry door is a head banger for us tall geeks. At this weight, I don't think the pop-up going down while in transit is that much of a concern.
Artic Tern windows are awesome and expensive, but they have to delete that front window on the slope. It's going to leak.
Not sure what the ground clearance is but to much low hanging fruit. Steps, table storage, spare tire and stab jacks. Also, putting an extension draw bar on rear trailer hitch and then stating how much weight it can hold is encouraging people to put too much weight on rear hitch.
Good to see you my friend. I'm picturing you trying to move through that doorway. Haha. Great feedback here. You spent a lot of time studying trailers in this weight/price range so I know you have seen a lot of different options out there. Great point about the height as well. At what point does aero really not matter a whole lot? When you are towing a large brick down the road that extra height probably isn't as important as other shapes.
@@PlayingwithSticks great to see you as well Drew!! It's probably stupid of me to suggest the B 2 going hardsided at this point. I know folks like the idea of having all that head room that a pop up offers. I was very surprised how roomy my trailer feels at 76". This might not be the case for someone who is 6' 6" tall but clearing the 5 foot door would be a problem as well. Curious how much more wind drag is created with that extra 18" of height? Maybe more then I realize. Website says a Partner stove is included in the 69k price. I assume it would go in the outside slide out kitchen. FYI- best stove on the market.
@bartman1857 I think it is the portable version of the cook partner. That would be my assumption so they can move it around camp
@@PlayingwithSticks thanks for letting me know they now make a foldable two burner. I will be picking one up when my camp chef wears out. They are pricey $519
Yes, they are pricey aren't they. I haven't used one yet. As you know I wasn't a huge fan of the originals. Definitely built to last, good simmer control, but the BTU ouput was a bit lacking. I have a feeling they are probably more powerful now. I need to check them out again.
MDC seems to be able to build and import both the Forte 9+ and the XT12HR with similar capabilities at lower price points. Love the Bean2, but I'd love to see comparisons with its competition.
This is amazing. Seriously. The price point puts it at Mammoth TL category. ...but, the Mammoth has interior shower, toilet, bunks plus king size bed, tall throughout, etc...this is lighter, but..
First off the Mammoth TL is likley way over the claimed 2,900 pound dry weight. The two spare wheels, rack, awining, rock sliders, shovel etc put it at 3,300 pounds dry. That's way to heavy for a Wrangler or Bronco and for Drew to review. It appears to come with a lot of the same issues as thier smaller units:
1. Carbon steel chassis and rock sliders that are not even powder coated " rust city"
2. It comes with a $80 two burner stove.
3. The Dickerson heater fireplace is only rated to 5,000 foot elevation.
Other issues
4. Duel 5,200 pound Timbrens on a 4,500 gwr trailer is way to stiff
5. Heater is to close to bed
6. Standing room including shower is so small it's almost comical
7. It's to tall and skinny
8. No interior access to frig.
9. Awining is a nightmare to open and close. It's 9 feet off ground and set back.
Look at FB group on all the issues.
While watching this video my mind was made up mid point that I was gonna purchase immediately… until that hefty price tag was revealed. $30,000 I would’ve purchased immediately, but 70+ I think I’ll take my chances and build my own. | B1 |⭐
Thanks Drew, always appreciate your videos. I’m going to preface my response with the fact that we are big fans of Bean. So much so that we are very close to picking up our own 2.0. We originally had thought we would get a black bean, with most of the bells and whistles. One of the big reasons we picked the 2.0 was the openness, the weight and the price. It’s not that we thought the black bean was overpriced, we just felt more comfortable with a trailer that weighed less and cost less. I’m not sure the people who feel the Squared is overpriced understand what it takes to produce a trailer like that. I can understand if you don’t want to spend that much, but comparing it to things that aren’t apples to apples is unfair. You get what you pay for is true more times than not.
What I find is once you get into these kind of narrow niches, it's hard for people to see the value versus some of the larger niches. They look like apples to apples on the surface, but it takes a while to pick up on the nuances
If they told me $70k at the start of the video, I would have gotten 19 minutes of my life back.
Man I've researched this thing and it would be perfect for me and my family. That price makes it impossible though. Hoping for a Bean/Lite version on day at that $30k mark.
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
But 70k 😮
After watching the vid three times and reading comments I think Bean missed the mark by not starting with a base unit meaning wired but not outfitted that the buyer can option themselves. I’m sure the quality is there, and it’s good that cheaper vehs can pull it because that would be necessary.
Too bad, I love their stuff.
Damn I put a deposit down thinking it would be 40 to 45k. I can buy an outdoors rv 27 trx for that price. Guess I am going to go hiker trailer for an off-road weekend rig.
The beauty with Bean is that is a refundable deposit. I think there were quite a few people that thought this would be closer to $45-$50K.
@@PlayingwithSticks Yeah was glad to see that it was refundable. Honestly the Fall 2025 and potential price adjustments they call out are also show stoppers. I do really like them I stopped by their office in SLC last year and they were great people.
many other Bean trailers that are extremely off road worthy starting at $17K
That's a good point!
I'm sorry but I dont see what's so innovative with this exactly other than Bean trying to see what price point they can get away with. I believe Coachman had this exact same square trailer with soft pop top for more than a decade before discontinuing it and changing the series name to a different design.
Are folks so hell bent on needing power these days that they need a power bank system that cost $6k? My family's old popup had a propane heater that could function with just a single battery on the tongue to provide a spark occasionally, and sometimes turn on the cabin led light. We took it cross country like that; camping in the spring, late summer and early fall.
That's sort of the issue with this trailer; it's so overbuilt and loaded to bear that it cant be used without a massive power system. Nobody who is going to buy one of these is going to need the "airbag suspension" that if it breaks on the road cant be fixed by a regular shop, you dont need a fridge - a well made cooler works perfectly well, RGB is pointless - just put a couple LED white and amber lights on the ceiling please, a shower useless in most cases where this will be used - you wont or cant use it in a regular campground, and this thing is too massive to take into most remote locations it can, and finally I'm one of those people against having built in water systems in a trailer - added weight and maintenance; dont need them.
It took me a while to see innovation as well. Most of us look at innovation as recreating the wheel. But, I find that typically means, within this industry, is going against what has worked for years. Why not take what has worked and make it better? Take the coachman that was built with sticks, glue, and screws (which was built to last 4 seasons) and make it last 4 decades. I think there was a lot of great designs in the past, that were great because they built upon previous designs. Don't throw out all that hard work that was done before us.
I like your less is more approach. We really don't need as much as we think we do to have a great camping experience.
It fits in the small campgrounds and places harder to get to absolutely.. most cooler people that are camping for more than a few days got tired of coolers and prefer a fridge ..
@@thomasott9488 My personal trips are usually up to 2 weeks sometimes as long as month. The family trips when I was kid were 1-2 months in length while towing a large Coleman popup. A fridge was never used, and as Drew showed a properly packed cooler will retain its ice just fine for a decent amount of time. Nearly 20 years worth of family camping trips with that setup, and now 10 years of solo trips after I started living my own life. Why should we have to worry about our food security being dependent on a battery or shore power or a older style fridge plumbed into the trailer propane line? Its not worth the added cost.
@@HaddaClu , I totally understand friend, and to some point I agree.. I too have traveled very much throughout my life , not overlanding or in federal parks , but more or less campgrounds.. I have always used coolers as well, and I remember the days of coolers full of water and drenched food packages... some people I seen didn't want to leave base to get more ice or to far out of grid to get ice.. everyone has their own opinions and preferences, I would say what I think is people are more lazy to a sence and want the convenience of not having to deal with changing ice every few days.. I haven't been offgrid enough yet to really need the total setup , but I like having the extras .. I have a 2004 GMC Denali loaded to handle trips being able to live weeks with my setup.. is it to much , ya, probably.. it's new for me to have that extent of technology on my rig, but I just like having being able to do it.. I am a simple person, never done that , but for me it's more it's the technology of it and the hobby of having the best offgird truck.. I don't think I need it except for the power to keep my CPAP going , just new ideas for me to try more or less.. good conversation, thankyou friend
Pretty cool and capable looking trailer. Price is..... high, and if you're tall, you can't sleep in it. I'm 6'5" (77") and that only leaves maybe 3" of foot space, if it's a standard dimension queen. I had my Hiker Trailer made with the galley at my feet a few inches shorter so I can fit no problem, can't have Bean make it wider, lol.
I do like the ability to customize. Like you said, that is something I really value with Hiker. While they mass produce trailers. Well, mass by small ma and pa trailer standards, they still haven't given up the ma and pa vibe with those customizations.
@@PlayingwithSticks Yeah. I got mine back in 2019. It took a little while, but we didn't bug them and knew that it would take a bit. I think we got ours at the perfect time. We've had zero issues with it. Only issue is it doesn't get used enough, lol. Love the videos.
@@merickrickman4092 I was so excited to see they put out the 4x8 this month. That is truly a budget trailer.
Really thought they were going to do a bed on the roofline like they do on pop top vans. Understand that adds some complexity/weight/etc but could be a cool feature.
I really love the layout and size of this trailer, but.... can we get a basic version for like half the price? $70,000 is crazy.
Thanks for providing the feedback. I think many others are sharing the same sentiment.
We love our Mean Bean. Got it used for $25K. As much as I like the Bean2, That price point HURTS! There is no way I would pay $70-$75K for it. Maybe, and I mean maybe, I would consider it with a full outdoor kitchen, solar, and A/C at the price point. Shoot, I might as well pony up more cash and just get a full decked Oliver Trailer for our future trip through the Yukon and to Alaska!
I’m again a bit surprised a little bit about these bean trailers. I’m from Switzerland/Germany, and usually these trailers are a bit cheaper in the US than in Europe.
But guys, that’s big money. Even fancier trailers with same quality CAN cost less. Still they’re awesome.
I know a guy that builds similar trailers with similar quality with the same options, there you’ll end up at 20k tops. B2B price though - so I think high quality stuff like this should retail for 35-45k.
The raw materials alone are near 35k so I am baffled by the comparisons to campers that the raw materials that are 15k. For example the Artic Tern door is 1,200 plus while a typical mass produced rv door is 150. Drew has reviewed many budget rigs that maybe be of more interest to you.
The metal or aluminum strip running under the canopy on the inside how is that insulated from the outside? Many companies are having to cover these strips because of condensation dripping off
Awesome video, Drew. A few things:
I so badly want to see some footage of this with the top down and someone inside. You got so close a few times but never did lol. Would love to get a feel for what it’s like. Also some content of the top being opening from start to finish.
As you noted, I also want to know about a vent fan. For the price that needs to happen.
Is the mattress different than my mean bean? Would love to know the dimensions.
Do the 110 outlets work with that power system even if not on shore power?
Lastly, needs a paper towel holder lol.
You know, beings you guys are taking a serious look at buying this trailer. If you let Bean know I bet they can make a video for you and throw it on facebook or something. The latching/setup of the top was almost instant. You'll like how easy they made that. But, I agree, I should have shown it with the top down.
@@PlayingwithSticksno worries! Ton of time before it comes out so I’m sure they will show this.
Do you remember if that door has screen like the regular beans? It was nice to have the door open but leave bugs out.
I should remember. I stayed in it. But, I don't. I would assume it does. Add that to your list to have them film. Great questions.
Nice trailer. Just wondering if the windows get condensation at night.? Does the bedding get damp. I see it's over the glass
this looks really awesome, but I'd ask if the bench can be 3 inches shorter.LOL I see his feet don't touch the floor...that's my issue and I hate that. :D
Holy smokes…$69k?!. Ouch. A “lite” version for all of us that haven’t won the powerball jackpot would be nice.
Thanks for sharing. I would really like to see that option.
It'd be nice to see a review of the various overland trailers from Canada.
Drew did one on Mission Overland and I think Off Grid.
hmmm, converting it to a hard side pop up... lets see, we'll give it 3" on either side, so 7' across on the roof. call it 3.4' per side. for 1" thick roof + windows... BUT we hang he hinges at different levels. offsetting them. so we COULD pop the roof straight up about 3.3" per side or go for triangle inner panels using a rubber gasket along the "out side" of the panels would allow a water tight seal over the roof then when the inner walls are pulled in, the gasket comes in too... there might be some dripping or such if the outer walls were very wet but not likely enough to worry about. should be able to raise and lower the roof quick enough to prevent much rain or such from coming inside in a storm.
the gasket would also act as a footer for the roof to "sit on" when raised... providing it extra strength. when down the panels would then be folded up into the roof bulge and locked in place, allowing free movement inside with it closed down.
*looks innocent at drew*
that is a VERY nice camper....but a bit above my budget. If I win the lotto or my long lost uncle leaves me a few mils......love all the neat details and features...
Thanks for the taking the time. I don't know if I should say let's hope your long lost uncle lives a long happy life or... Haha
@@PlayingwithSticks hahahahaha, he's long lost....that's the point... ;-)
Price is definitely a bit yikes, but it's a great feature set with 5KW Ecoflow power, distribution panel etc. Custom FOX suspension, compressors, etc. That's probably $8k there. Air adjust suspension another $3k. Build quality on the storage is awesome probably another $2k. TAB 320/400 is $35-55k and they are the leaders in the teardrop space ("boondock" version offroad) but sleep 2 instead of 3-4, this blows them away IF you want the feature set. US mostly doesn't have the hardcore multi week tough tracks offroad that this would kill for, you need to sell it in Australia vs CUB campers and you would do really well.
It would be cool to have a shell/base model without all the bells and whistles for $38k ballpark. Layout is sweet, huge space for a small poptop. I don't know another poptop that has an easily replaceable top.
After seeing the video that Bean trailers posted I was actually hoping this week’s video would be of your new bean. Which version you got, which options, and the price it came to. Maybe remove the cost of the custom paint job. 😂
I love the video and my wife and I are looking to get into the small camper / square /teardrop. But looking at base price for this camper at $70,000.... no gd way.
Would love to know what other campers you are looking at. Excited for you guys to join the club!
Bean has a many models of trailer for every lifestyle and budget.
When trailers get this size, I start looking for things like a built in toilet.
I’m surprised enough people will pay that much to support production.
It would be interesting to see how many small camper companies have gone out of business in the last decade.
I literally gasped at the price. nope. I could literally buy an Airstream for that.
I should have put in the title "This Trailer will Take Your Breath Away...Literally" Haha.
@@PlayingwithSticks to be honest, you're right. I watched your whole review without checking the price then literally said "Whoa!" out loud when I got to the end. Nice rig, but never gonna happen for me. I do love your content though, so thank you for it!
@lifeisgood7762 thank you for the kind words!
not the same target market as airstream.
Insane price. Sorry, not buying into the "Overpriced/Overland" experience.
Thanks for sharing.
Overpriced, ovebuilt, overland experience.
Morning Drew..
IF I hadn't put my down payment on my cargo-conversion I'm about to do, I'd buy this.. OR 🤔, maybe if they come out with (like you said)a more budget friendly Bean□, I'd sell trailer and buy that! But we'll see...😉
Hoobilly
Hey my friend! Good seeing you on here. When will you get started on the conversion? Also when do you plan on completing it. Can't wait to see it!
Hey..Sup. 🤔Good question, lol.. I pick up hopefully the week of the 16th, I had to order it! 7' interior, ladder racks for solar, 2 MaxAir fans (1-front, 1-back) and two Egress 30x30 windows. 1 on each side over the wheelwells. 2- 3500lb torsion axles too.. Oh trust me, I'll have you a pick up video uploaded Dude!!!
@thevideostump46239 you got me wondering, and I'm probably wrong. If it was me I would install one Max Air fan first before cutting both holes. Those things are beastly in terms of the air they can pull, I wouldn't be surprised if one could pull enough air. But maybe your cargo trailer is much bigger than I'm picturing. Every trailer I've ever been in with a maxair fan, I only use it on setting two or three.
Nice to see Bean still innovating. This "Squaredrop" would work for the "fast and light" traveling camping family who have or would easily outgrow their more traditional teardrop.
Exactly! You get it. Thanks Steve.
Hi drew, sorry i'm late.
hey drew, the trailers "base dry weight" is 2300 lbs. whats the max weight on that chassis?
this is more of a hybred between a teardrop and a standard trailer.
Again, notice they have the poptop but they didn't put rails up there for a bed. You could EASY fit a bed.. or 2... up there, so you could have 2 kids sleeping up there, adults down...
RGB, ugg, i'd almost feel allergic to running the red lights at night. Just bad flashbacks from the CUCV radio pod with the red lights on inside at night... bad flashbacks.
Interior cook stove? in truth, i can see a lot of people just going with portables. Now sure, you can get one of those big colman cook stoves with the huge metal flaps... but why?
Canadian tire for example, offers little, single burner 8000 btu cook tops... small, easy to set up and use, you can move it around as needed. this lets you use the table as a cooking area or a prep area... You could also keep an air fryer in storage. when you are on shore power, or if you just have enough power on hand. most are sub 2000 watts so you can "bake" air fry stuff in a few minutes. again they pack small and store small so good option for internal cooking quick.
who's this for? This... is for "mid level" campers... People who are going to spend weeks out... Not quite "full time" camper life, but not the one weekend a month family. Winterized tell me its for hunters, its for people who will work in the field. Supprised they didn't have floor threw holes and a skirt for it for ice fishing. heck, picture towing this thing with a big heavy truck thats got its own bed cab camper. Driving out to a spot setting up the bean, connetcting the bean and the bed camper with a tarp and side flaps. using the bed camper for your cooking, plus its full wet bath... while sleeping 1-2 in the bed camper, and 1-2 in the bean. 3 beds, 2 bedroom, 1 bath, full kitchen, bean for cargo and storage space. that as your base or centerpoint for a hunting or fishing trip
I remember the max weight on the chassis being quite big. To the point it would be hard to get anywhere near it. Yes, with those rails I am picturing Taxa Mantis. They made it work. A little utilitarian and massive amounts of metal for us. I would love to see a version of those rails/bunks that are a little softer. I agree with you on the cookstove. I guess my thought was just who would buy this $70K trailer? Probably someone who wants everything. I feel like they would want a built in cooktop as well, maybe I don't understand this market. When the Meerkat came out, very similar interior setup. In that video I got so many comments saying they needed a cooktop, but maybe it was because it came with a dinky butane stove. I think if Bean through in a dinky stove on a $70K trailer people would push for something else. I think it was smart of them to just say bring your own. Love your take on who it is for. When you said it, I just pictured my family. That's probably why I really appreciate this design. We aren't full time, but we aren't weekend warriors either. I say that, but this season has only been shorter trips for us. We are due for long camping season (fall)! Jennifer as usual, you knocked it out the park here. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts on this camper.
@@PlayingwithSticks Cook stove-
You understand the market but remember, this thing is designed for cooking outdoors with the big prep area out doors... So thats where they expect most people to cook. hence a backup internal cook top for rainy days or winter... doesn't nessessarly need to be "fixed" thus having a small mobile unit... that could be brought out and used as an extra burner for the outside set up or just keep inside in storage till needed is good.
I completely agree in terms of usability this is the trailer that our family would want. But the more I make these videos the more I realize there's another family out there who has much different needs than we do
@@PlayingwithSticks This would go over big on the Asian market too. At least for the options it has. its size configuraiton (if it had the rafter beds it would sleep 6).
the only thing missing would be the kotatsu. if you could somehow fit a kotatsu in there LOL. (*tilts her head* are you really looking that up?)
And again for cooking, add in an air fryer and you can cook almost everything inside in an emergency.
(well that and the butane top for boiling water for retort pouches.)
You know I am looking that up right now! Haha. A heated table? Where do you learn about this stuff.
Someone please describe how this could ever pencil out? What itinerary is this designed for? Big trip to Yosemite? This costs as much as a 5 month stay in the Ahwahnee. Alaska Highway? The tent top will get soggy and you’re still pooping in the woods.
The price for this little thing is utterly absurd. Spending $70k can get me so much more room in a bigger camper (perhaps even a used camper van). These little things costing so much is really getting out of hand.
Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment. I appreciate it.
“I’m an overlander” ~ Ralph Wiggum
Great concept, too expensive!
Wait, I think someone just recently left this exact comment. Love it!
I can get an Airstream Caravel 16RB for close to the same price. Or a Bambi 20FB or 22FB for the same price. Or a Basecamp 16 or Basecamp 20 for $13K-$22K cheaper. Trailer pricing is nutty.
For that extraordinary price I'd want the hard wall composite pop-top, a drain at the entryway and shower hose for winter inside shower. Otherwise, I'd just prefer a minimal van or flatbed build.
I like the unique perspective. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for listening, and for the review.
Hey Drew, love all your videos. But how come you haven't done a review on the Vistabules? Or did I miss it.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but vistibule has always been in my top three trailers. I have even had the chance to go inside one and inspect the entire build. But unfortunately I've never come across one or had the chance to be able to film one. It seems like vistibule land is more Midwest and East Coast. I don't ever run across them here in the mountain West. If I get the chance, I won't think twice about doing one
Compare it with the Epik trailers (similar design to the Overkill)
Yes, good eye. You know your stuff (overkill to now Epik).
Anyone know what happened with Overkill Campers?
Right Idea! Wrong price!
Thanks for sharing
I get the sentiment that it's too expensive but it's sort of like checking out a luxury home in that you can see what others are doing and apply many of the same tricks for far less money. And keep in mind a lot of these companies are purposely catering to a very small slice of the market with such trailers. Some people think nothing of 70K and just want to have something to tow behind their $100,000 Yukon Denali AT4 to complete the rugged glamper look. Remember, people buy half million plus dollar RV's every year and trade them in without having put more than 20,000 miles on them. It seemed like something to do and they had the money so they bought it and found out it wasn't as easy and glamorous as staying in the Yellowstone Old Faithful Inn. Or that they never left Florida anyway so why bother with the upkeep. Why does an Earth Roamer cost a million dollars? Because someone will pay it. Can you travel anywhere in the world, rent vehicles and stay in great lodging even remotely for the rest of your life for less than a million bucks? Absolutely. But some folks just want certain things and they have the money. And if there's money to be made there's someone out there to make the product for that person. Given that a Class B or C RV with far more equipment and the vehicle that comes with it can be had for less makes this a hard sell for most though. And for truly rough road travelers they usually prefer smaller and lighter. Jeeps don't tow a lot and the vehicles that can are traversing terrain where a smaller trailer is far more navigable than a large one.
Thank you for breaking down the market. I appreciate the time you took here.
I would prefer u-shaped seating and table that converts to a bed in the back and a full kitchen in the front, possibly a shower/toilet.
Thank you for sharing your feedback. When you get in more of these small campers you can see what they were aiming for here. The u-shaped seating and table that converts is a neat feature for many, but that was what they were trying to avoid in this build. That was what I was talking about throughout the video in terms of living more square vs rectangular hallway and less modular components that take longer to convert. There goal was to avoid tighter spaces and converting beds to tables. For what you are looking for, fortunately this is the most common design of 13-17 trailers so you will be able to find plenty of layouts that fit your needs. I would start with fiberglass trailers like scamps, casitas, etc.
Would love your thoughts on the arkto g12 compared to this. I was all in on this for 40k. G12 in the 50s but guess these campers just arent for me
Unfortunately trailers like these are out of our wheelhouse. We used to have 1,800lbs as our max, now we have pushed to 2,800lbs. But, Arkto is just too much of a reach for us.