Lifesaver!! Brilliantly explained and so easy to follow. Installed my skid plate today and it was a breeze… thanks to you. (Referred to the manual after installing and I KNOW I would’ve struggled if I was solely reliant on the instructions provided in the manual.) THANK YOU!!
Already have the AXP from you but learned a few things, like loosening the footpeg bolts! I’m always wedging that spacer in with a soft mallet. You guys put out great videos and PDF instructions (airbox & single brake disc come to mind) and really helpful when you include the torque specs & loctite info….saves time. And it looks like AXP changed the design slightly with the crap flap cutouts so you don’t have to align the front top bolts through both pieces any more, making it a little easier. Thanks again. Great stuff.
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Thank you! Thank you! Your video was awesome, and to the point and also extremely informative! Most of all very helpful to took the guess work out of the instructions, that are worthless and after spending 20 minutes trying to figure out the simplest installation after watching your video! I threw them in the trash can and felt 100% confident about the install! What a breeze the install was after watching your video! AWESOME VIDEO!! THANKS AGAIN!!!....Keep on riding stay safe!!
I did a few things different. For the footpeg mount I loosened up all three bolts. I started the footpeg bolt without the spacer so I could move the skid plate around. I did the front bolts, but I didn't tighten them up. Then I went back to the rear bolts and put the spacer in, then tightened them up. I went back to the front and tightened them up. I have an Adventure (non-R), I replaced the low fender with a high fender. It was hitting the crap flap, so I ended up trimming part of the top of the crap flap off with a cutting wheel. Really easy, now I have a handful of bolts from the stock skidplate I can use for spares. Thanks for the help!
Just installed mine, thanks! Very helpful the only different that I had to do was to loose the Torx 50 of the left foot peg, so the bush can fit. Thanks!
I read through couple of ADV posts regarding modifying the fuel pump guard. I just thought of alternative mod. Ask AXP to cut a hole in skid plate where the fuel pump is and weld a cap on top of the hole. That would effectively increase spacing by thickness of AXP plastic.
It’s not required with the skid pan, but certainly a good thing to have. An oil change can be done by just removing the (4) bolts at the front of the pan (about one minute) and just hinging the pan down. Super easy.
That's awesome. Do you know if the AXP is strong enough to support a ATV / jack under the skid plate to lift bike for working on wheels ? @@RottweilerPerformance
@@greatfallskam As long as the lifting point is a larger surface area we have done it just fine. We would avoid using something that is smaller and would focus the weight on a small area though. A dedicated street bike jack that spreads the load would be perfect. We have one here and it works well with the AXP.
Not really. You just need to remove the four front bolts and it will pivot down. Or, if you have a tricky funnel you can leave it in place. The mounts to allow room for the side drain screws to come out, but you'll still get a little oil in the pan with that method. The four bolt thing in the front is easy and worth it.
About the time it takes to remove 4 bolts from the front. It pivots down and allows plenty of space to do what you need to do. Not that different from stock really in terms of time.
Not that I am intimately aware of but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe shoot our customer service guys a call and they might be able to walk you though whether something fits or not. We have a live chat here during normal Pacific daylight time 8-5 M-F. www.rottweilerperformance.com/
Whatever you want really. Most just poke it out one of the holes but the most important part is keeping it off of the exhaust and that it can drain away from it.
With some creativity maybe, but it uses the same mounts that the rear center stand does to mount the rear of the skid pan. I’m not sure if anyone has done it, and I know that with a 901 Norden they are offering two different types that work with and without the center stand so maybe at some point they may offer that for the 890 adventure as well. For now they don’t work with them on the KTM, but again with some creativity you may be able to figure it out if you were a decent fabricator.
I am curious who I could contact to find out if anyone is working on a solution to use the OEM KTM center stand with the AXP skid plate. If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it greatly.
I just did this install after having this plate sitting for a while, and the chain can be pushed to touch the plate aluminum rail. The chain itself doesn't seem super loose, but I'm just guessing that this should not touch. I had my dealer replace and drop a tooth on the front sprocket but they kept the original chain and I also have the Xplor Pro shocks... any idea how this can work out?
The bolt pattern is the same, but it will NOT fit. The Norden fuel tanks are coming so it would probably be best to just wait. You can check our live chat during working hours for an ETA on them. Currently it’s the weekend so I’m not sure when but the customer service guys should know.
We like these for medium to medium/heavy bash protection. They do a great job at deflection without getting bent up like aluminum and glide across things rather than grind into them like aluminum can. For heavy duty we would suggest thicker aluminum pans but many of them rely on the wimpy side covers where the AXP shines with HDPE covering the fuel tank as well with minimal weight added on (2lbs). Stock is super soft aluminum and worthless for much more than sticks and brush.
Great video! I have a preorder 901 hard skid plate coming from AXP to New Hampshire. The shipping was pretty expensive. Would there be any value for me in switching my order to you? How much do you think it would push out my lead time? Thanks
For all intents and purposes we should get them around the same time and offer free shipping within the contiguous US states, but we wouldn’t want to take a sale from AXP either if you have already placed it. We are probably their biggest US distributor so once they start arriving I’m sure we will be shipping a lot of them around.
@@RottweilerPerformance Thanks! I am all in and want to support a quality manufacturer. I think mine should show up to me a bit sooner because of shipping so NBD on the extra $. I do appreciate the Norden/890 info. Please keep it coming.
They are pretty tough. Aluminum is better for hard core rocks and landing on boulders and things like that, but they are heavy and are 'sticky' when trying to slide over rocks. The AXP will keep it's shape, not bend like aluminum and take a good hit being HDPE plastic and 8mm thick (1/4). They take a pretty good beating and handle low sides really well protecting the fuel tank.
Almost. The drain bolts are accessible but one of the braces kind of blocks the flow of oil draining. That being said, you really just need to remove the 4 front bolts (super easy) and then hinge the skid pan down pivoting on the rear mounts. It might be good to also use a 45 Torx and just loosen the rear mounts at the foot peg assembly. That’s about it.
How close does the upper side of the skid plate come to the tank? I am worried about rubbing. I have seen other Blue tanks having the paint rubbed off and seeing a white tank underneath. It shows it on Chris Birches bike. This from the original protections. Do you think this will be a problem with the AXP? And if so then would little rubber stoppers with sticky adhesive work around the perimeter of the tank where the AXP area that would touch and vibrate against the tanks?
You sure could do that. Depends on how into the dirt you get really but there is no doubt that it could be protected. They don't touch the tanks that we have seen though. Only if you take a dirt nap.
You're worried about rubbing the finish off the tank of a rally? If you're using that bike for what it's meant for that should be the least of your worries.
Some have yes, but all current parts have the brace which has completely eliminated any possible issue there. If you have been using it with no issues, you are probably fine.
Center stand doesn't work with most aftermarket skid pans. It's something you'll just have to decide for yourself if you really need or not vs protection. Oil changes are just taking out the front 4 bolts and just hinging the skid pan down. Not that big of a deal.
@@RottweilerPerformance It's still going to dump oil all over the pan if you just hinge it down. Is there some trick to doing this without draining oil onto the skid plate?
@@Jaws-3 Look up 'Form a Funnel'. That's what we use. Aside from having some holes to help drain the oil, the stock pan isn't much different in terms of adding a small amount of hassle to draining the oil, but we can assure it hinging it down with some sort of guide for the oil is fairly easily done. www.amazon.com/Form-Funnel-Flexible-Draining-Tool/dp/B017MTFIYE/ref=asc_df_B017MTFIYE/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312094794461&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11258909617572460313&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060490&hvtargid=pla-493245967151&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62497261819&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312094794461&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11258909617572460313&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060490&hvtargid=pla-493245967151
That’s a great question that we unfortunately can’t answer decisively since we do not sell that brand of crash bars. Combining two aftermarket items that were not designed with the other in mind can always be risky, but in this case we would suggest reaching out to Adventure Spec to see if they know or have had experience with other skid pans. In our experience if anyone has feedback on it, the manufacturer is usually the best place to start. Otherwise we would have really liked to answer this for you if we knew. When you find out, would you mind posting back here for others?
Do you guys sell the new version of this skid plate that AXP released earlier this year (cutout for the 890 fuel pump guard, modified flap crap guard)?
Just purchased an APX skid plate. Can I feel reasonably confident it won't interfere with the fuel pump guard on my 2021 890 adv r? Oh, terrific vid. APX owe you big-time.
@@caridinaintruder4218 Can I install the touring variant on a bike without a center stand, to keep the option of adding a center stand later ? And do I lose some protection by doing so ?
Love my AXP skid plate, thanks Chris
Awesome! We love ours too!
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Lifesaver!! Brilliantly explained and so easy to follow. Installed my skid plate today and it was a breeze… thanks to you.
(Referred to the manual after installing and I KNOW I would’ve struggled if I was solely reliant on the instructions provided in the manual.) THANK YOU!!
Awesome! So glad this helped. Thanks for watching and hope this deserved a subscribe click!
Already have the AXP from you but learned a few things, like loosening the footpeg bolts! I’m always wedging that spacer in with a soft mallet. You guys put out great videos and PDF instructions (airbox & single brake disc come to mind) and really helpful when you include the torque specs & loctite info….saves time. And it looks like AXP changed the design slightly with the crap flap cutouts so you don’t have to align the front top bolts through both pieces any more, making it a little easier. Thanks again. Great stuff.
Glad we helped! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks Chris, definitely need to give you a contract to help on our videos ! haha nice jobs guys, thanks for the support
You as well! We have sold so many of these I thought it was a good time to make a video to help people out. Glad you liked it.
Awesome job on this how-to video. It made the installation so easy. Thank you very much!
Glad you enjoyed it and it helped!!
Love videos that get to the point thanks Chris
We hope these can be a fast and informative way of helping customers without breaking the bank to produce for our customers. Thanks for enjoying it and we hope that it helped.
Thank you! Thank you! Your video was awesome, and to the point and also extremely informative! Most of all very helpful to took the guess work out of the instructions, that are worthless and after spending 20 minutes trying to figure out the simplest installation after watching your video! I threw them in the trash can and felt 100% confident about the install! What a breeze the install was after watching your video! AWESOME VIDEO!! THANKS AGAIN!!!....Keep on riding stay safe!!
Glad it was helpful!
I did a few things different.
For the footpeg mount I loosened up all three bolts.
I started the footpeg bolt without the spacer so I could move the skid plate around.
I did the front bolts, but I didn't tighten them up.
Then I went back to the rear bolts and put the spacer in, then tightened them up.
I went back to the front and tightened them up.
I have an Adventure (non-R), I replaced the low fender with a high fender.
It was hitting the crap flap, so I ended up trimming part of the top of the crap flap off with a cutting wheel.
Really easy, now I have a handful of bolts from the stock skidplate I can use for spares.
Thanks for the help!
Just installed mine, thanks! Very helpful the only different that I had to do was to loose the Torx 50 of the left foot peg, so the bush can fit. Thanks!
Glad it helped!!
That helped me on the left side. I am dreading my next oil change, though, jeez.
Fantastic video, most excellent instructions made for a zero frustration install.
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the positive comment.
As always, quality content from Chris.
I read through couple of ADV posts regarding modifying the fuel pump guard. I just thought of alternative mod. Ask AXP to cut a hole in skid plate where the fuel pump is and weld a cap on top of the hole. That would effectively increase spacing by thickness of AXP plastic.
Thanks Chris...really helpful and easy to follow 👍
Awesome! More coming!
Danke schön!!!!
I really appreciate the great video.
Uli
Awesome! Glad it helped!
I learn by reading 100x or watching 3 times. Thanks
Do you require / have the Rottweiler fuel pump guard?
Do you have to remove the foot pegs bolts to remove AXP skid plate for oil + filter change?
It’s not required with the skid pan, but certainly a good thing to have. An oil change can be done by just removing the (4) bolts at the front of the pan (about one minute) and just hinging the pan down. Super easy.
That's awesome. Do you know if the AXP is strong enough to support a ATV / jack under the skid plate to lift bike for working on wheels ? @@RottweilerPerformance
@@greatfallskam As long as the lifting point is a larger surface area we have done it just fine. We would avoid using something that is smaller and would focus the weight on a small area though. A dedicated street bike jack that spreads the load would be perfect. We have one here and it works well with the AXP.
Omg….thank you for this video. Just got my skid plate today
Glad it helped! Thanks for the kudos and enjoy the skid plate Robert.
Great install videos as usual. Question: the entire skid plate has to come out for oil change?
Not really. You just need to remove the four front bolts and it will pivot down. Or, if you have a tricky funnel you can leave it in place. The mounts to allow room for the side drain screws to come out, but you'll still get a little oil in the pan with that method. The four bolt thing in the front is easy and worth it.
Could you tell me, how much time does this add to oil changes?
About the time it takes to remove 4 bolts from the front. It pivots down and allows plenty of space to do what you need to do. Not that different from stock really in terms of time.
thumbs up for this channel. usually the channel owners give a shit on questions in the comment section. Thx for that. =)
We actually care about our customers getting the right info. That's how we are taking over the moto world one piston at a time...
is the second plate between the engine guard and the cooler included or do you have to order it separately?
Yes it is!
Thanks guys! Do you know if there are any crash bars that fit over the AXP skid plate? Like the TT ones?
Not that I am intimately aware of but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe shoot our customer service guys a call and they might be able to walk you though whether something fits or not. We have a live chat here during normal Pacific daylight time 8-5 M-F. www.rottweilerperformance.com/
What do you do with the hose that plugged into a hole on the stock skid plate?
Whatever you want really. Most just poke it out one of the holes but the most important part is keeping it off of the exhaust and that it can drain away from it.
Great video...Is there any chance that this AXP skid plate can be made to work with my OEM KTM center stand?
With some creativity maybe, but it uses the same mounts that the rear center stand does to mount the rear of the skid pan. I’m not sure if anyone has done it, and I know that with a 901 Norden they are offering two different types that work with and without the center stand so maybe at some point they may offer that for the 890 adventure as well. For now they don’t work with them on the KTM, but again with some creativity you may be able to figure it out if you were a decent fabricator.
So it is ok to lift this bike by the skid plate?
Do it all the time. Just spread the load out and you are fine.
Yep, use a motorcycle lift all the time on the stock skid
I am curious who I could contact to find out if anyone is working on a solution to use the OEM KTM center stand with the AXP skid plate. If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it greatly.
The center stand blocks the skid plate. I doubt it because it lowkey makes no sense?
I just did this install after having this plate sitting for a while, and the chain can be pushed to touch the plate aluminum rail. The chain itself doesn't seem super loose, but I'm just guessing that this should not touch. I had my dealer replace and drop a tooth on the front sprocket but they kept the original chain and I also have the Xplor Pro shocks... any idea how this can work out?
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So will the 890 AXP pan fit my 901 with minor bolt changes? I see you have the 901 pan coming the end of March.
The bolt pattern is the same, but it will NOT fit. The Norden fuel tanks are coming so it would probably be best to just wait. You can check our live chat during working hours for an ETA on them. Currently it’s the weekend so I’m not sure when but the customer service guys should know.
Does the skid pan come with the crap flap awesome video✌✌✌✌✌
It does yes. They fit quite nicely. www.rottweilerperformance.com/axp-racing-ktm-790-890-adventure-poly-skid-plate/
What would be the benefit of a axp hdpe vs like the ktm oem full aluminum or the Beaumont full metal skid
We like these for medium to medium/heavy bash protection. They do a great job at deflection without getting bent up like aluminum and glide across things rather than grind into them like aluminum can. For heavy duty we would suggest thicker aluminum pans but many of them rely on the wimpy side covers where the AXP shines with HDPE covering the fuel tank as well with minimal weight added on (2lbs). Stock is super soft aluminum and worthless for much more than sticks and brush.
Would heavy bashes impact the engine or is the majority of the force being absorbed by the foot peg mount?
These dissipate energy pretty well. Are they as gnarly or subsequently heavy as aluminum, no, but they fill a large niche for most owners we find.
Great video!
I have a preorder 901 hard skid plate coming from AXP to New Hampshire. The shipping was pretty expensive. Would there be any value for me in switching my order to you? How much do you think it would push out my lead time? Thanks
For all intents and purposes we should get them around the same time and offer free shipping within the contiguous US states, but we wouldn’t want to take a sale from AXP either if you have already placed it. We are probably their biggest US distributor so once they start arriving I’m sure we will be shipping a lot of them around.
@@RottweilerPerformance
Thanks! I am all in and want to support a quality manufacturer. I think mine should show up to me a bit sooner because of shipping so NBD on the extra $.
I do appreciate the Norden/890 info. Please keep it coming.
does this plate also fit the 2023 model ?
Yes it does! We have fit quite a few here and can confirm.
I have SW motech centrestand. Is it similar to OEM centrestand and therefore not compatible with AXP skidplate?
Is the plastic skid durable enough or would a metal one be better
They are pretty tough. Aluminum is better for hard core rocks and landing on boulders and things like that, but they are heavy and are 'sticky' when trying to slide over rocks. The AXP will keep it's shape, not bend like aluminum and take a good hit being HDPE plastic and 8mm thick (1/4). They take a pretty good beating and handle low sides really well protecting the fuel tank.
It looks like you could change the oil without removing the skid plate, do you think its possible
Almost. The drain bolts are accessible but one of the braces kind of blocks the flow of oil draining. That being said, you really just need to remove the 4 front bolts (super easy) and then hinge the skid pan down pivoting on the rear mounts. It might be good to also use a 45 Torx and just loosen the rear mounts at the foot peg assembly. That’s about it.
where i can buy it with shipping to colombia?
What is the difference in weight vs. The original plate?
It's actually only about 2 lbs heavier than stock. It's low and centered so you'll never feel that.
How close does the upper side of the skid plate come to the tank? I am worried about rubbing. I have seen other Blue tanks having the paint rubbed off and seeing a white tank underneath. It shows it on Chris Birches bike. This from the original protections. Do you think this will be a problem with the AXP? And if so then would little rubber stoppers with sticky adhesive work around the perimeter of the tank where the AXP area that would touch and vibrate against the tanks?
You sure could do that. Depends on how into the dirt you get really but there is no doubt that it could be protected. They don't touch the tanks that we have seen though. Only if you take a dirt nap.
You're worried about rubbing the finish off the tank of a rally? If you're using that bike for what it's meant for that should be the least of your worries.
Merci pour ta vidéo
je t'en prie!
Mine doesn't have those angled metal supports at the front. Are they failing there?
Some have yes, but all current parts have the brace which has completely eliminated any possible issue there. If you have been using it with no issues, you are probably fine.
@@RottweilerPerformance I bought mine in March 2020 and JUST installed it last weekend 😞. It have yet to put it to any test.
What about if there is a center stand, or better yet oil changes will be a pain.
Center stand doesn't work with most aftermarket skid pans. It's something you'll just have to decide for yourself if you really need or not vs protection. Oil changes are just taking out the front 4 bolts and just hinging the skid pan down. Not that big of a deal.
@@RottweilerPerformance It's still going to dump oil all over the pan if you just hinge it down. Is there some trick to doing this without draining oil onto the skid plate?
@@Jaws-3 Look up 'Form a Funnel'. That's what we use. Aside from having some holes to help drain the oil, the stock pan isn't much different in terms of adding a small amount of hassle to draining the oil, but we can assure it hinging it down with some sort of guide for the oil is fairly easily done.
www.amazon.com/Form-Funnel-Flexible-Draining-Tool/dp/B017MTFIYE/ref=asc_df_B017MTFIYE/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312094794461&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11258909617572460313&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060490&hvtargid=pla-493245967151&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62497261819&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312094794461&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11258909617572460313&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060490&hvtargid=pla-493245967151
Just take it off! Considering you only change the oil every 9000 miles 5 to 10 extra minutes is not worth not putting the skid plate on!
Will this work with "adventure spec" crash bars?
That’s a great question that we unfortunately can’t answer decisively since we do not sell that brand of crash bars. Combining two aftermarket items that were not designed with the other in mind can always be risky, but in this case we would suggest reaching out to Adventure Spec to see if they know or have had experience with other skid pans. In our experience if anyone has feedback on it, the manufacturer is usually the best place to start. Otherwise we would have really liked to answer this for you if we knew. When you find out, would you mind posting back here for others?
Do you guys sell the new version of this skid plate that AXP released earlier this year (cutout for the 890 fuel pump guard, modified flap crap guard)?
We sell out every shipment we get so whatever we have is the latest design for sure.
the skid plate shown on this video is the latest version yes ;)
Just purchased an APX skid plate. Can I feel reasonably confident it won't interfere with the fuel pump guard on my 2021 890 adv r? Oh, terrific vid. APX owe you big-time.
Any idea if this or the V2 would work with the sw motech lower crash bars, and center stand?
The V2 comes in two options: Touring and Hard. Touring has the possibility for the center stand, the "hard" one isn't.
@@caridinaintruder4218 Can I install the touring variant on a bike without a center stand, to keep the option of adding a center stand later ? And do I lose some protection by doing so ?
What to do with the hose?
Most people just zip tie it to the right side of the skid pan or engine.
I have a doubt about the specific position it can or cannot stay.. see my other comments
@@pupazzovtec i have just sticked it out of one the cutout holes. Worked perfect for 8000km