I grew up in a railway family, as a child i would regularly see 3801 and its sistsr 38's as well as many of the other steam engine classes still working hard for a living, great way to grow up.
Yes, there is vision of the Spirit of Progress in full steam to be found with a search....it is a sight to behold. Vision taken from a biplane in 1937-8. Not only the loco but carriages were magnificent.
Back in the mid 60's I was an apprentice fitter on the NSW Railways. I was working in the large erecting shop. One day I walked out side and there was 3801 just sitting there, full head of steam and ready to go and nobody in the cab. Being a inquisitive lad I climbed up into the cab to have a look. Fantastic, the heat, the smell and all those knobs and gauges. Then I accidentally stood on the bar that opens the firebox doors. Whoosh bang heat and noise all at once. You have never seen anyone exit a loco quicker than I did that day. 60 odd years later I still remember my experience with 3801.
Amazing footage indeed especially exiting the harbor bridge ............in ever way help me to show it nice song inclusion indeed. The Granville train accident is one that is rarely covered and seems to have been lost to the winds of time.
Its a stunning locomotive and a tribute to Australian mechanical engineering expertise. Particularly since the German made replacement boiler had to be returned because of faults and the day was saved when an Australian firm rebuilt the original.
I think there was an imperial to metric conversion issue in the specifications. The Meiningen steam loco workshop in Germany is pretty much top notch and successfully rebuilds steamers from all over the world.
@@moestrei Sad that we Aussies have apparently lost the expertise in boilermaking because we definitely have the ability in our local steelmaking to produce the grades that are used
@flamingfrancis We seemed to have lost the ability to make anything nowdays. Look at all those disasters of imported train sets, it's a national disgrace.
what a great video, the run to west coast in 1970 was a very nostalgic time of my life, i lived in port pirie then, i actually remember watching the last steam train go down the main street of port pirie in 1966 when on holiday there. i was only around 7 then we moved to live there soon after. did 3801 call into port pirie? i can remember back then seeing two lines of retired steam locomotives lined up near peterburough end for end what was at that time for me as far as the eye could see, my dad years later said there was 40-50 of them. after i grew up and as a teenager with 'wheels' i went back looking for them but found out they had all been scrapped... i was and still am very pissed off. whats happening with the boiler from germany? has/is it being fixed and sent back to australia as a spare or did it have to be scrapped?
@@ThUnDaHuNtA_Australia The boiler from Germany had too many issues with it, which lead to it getting sent back to Germany (It never got repaired or sent back to Australia). Instead the original boiler was repaired. That’s the current boiler used for 3801 today.
in the 50,s and 60,s I grew up in New Lambton it’s suburb of Newcastle close to the northern line, we could hear from home the locos in the Broadmeadow yards shunting in the yard at night, I clearly remember the sound of the whistle of the Flyer as it thundered up the incline from Broadmeadow passing through the Adamstown Gates at great speed, at times my sister and I would wait on the overhead footbridge for a chance of seeing the flyer pass underneath us, soot, smoke and wet steam were our rewards, later in life I have ridden with my two elder brothers on the Train hauled by 3801 several times and have attended the Maitland steam fest which highlights the days of steam in the Hunter, all great memories
While she did not always haul the Flyer that train was known to hit max speeds around Wyee and then after stopping at Wyong. Nice flat open spaces that saw 3801 hit over 70mph. The 36's that often hauled were fairly quick too.
When the 3801 undertook her trip with the flying Scotsman, my father was lucky enough to fire both of then when they were in Grafton, as he was the only person in the area with the qualification to do that for the 38 class in Northern NSW and the crew of the Scotsman were nice enough to let him fire it. This also meant that I was lucky enough to stand in the cabin of the 3801.
The exterior of the C38s were inspired by the New York, New Haven and Hartford (NYNH&H, but simply known as the New Haven) I-5 Hudson (4-6-4) steam locomotives, of which 10 were built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1937; these locomotives were scrapped in 1951, after only 14 years of service.
Good compilation but you didn’t mention the the 3801 is off the rails again awaiting parts. Sadly she was unable to be used in this year’s heritage events. Unfortunately it is extremely expensive for the upkeep of this engine and although there is NSW Govt assistance they also rely on public donations.
My Dad was a relief station master at a central coast station on the day of that record set by the Flyer in 1964. I have a question re the vision shown. The Flyer of the day was an eight car air conditioned set with non opening windows but vision shown has passengers leaning from windows and with recorders set on table with windows open. Is there an explanation?
@@flamingfrancis those carriages were not on the record run with 3801, you must of got mixed up. It also wasn’t an ordinary Newcastle flyer, it was listed as a special event. That could be why those carriages were not on the train.
@@sachinh1635 I wasn’t. I love Harry, but in terms of people having heard of them, 3801 and PB are better known. (Being in operational condition probably helps)
someone else has mentioned the Victorian S Class locos that hauled the beautiful Spirit of Progress (late 1930's) .well worth a look..note the carriages and the last car..I'm not Victorian...
@@ProfessorLocomotive I strongly disagree as it is apparently quite a famous historic iconic moment known by many people and it is suitably relevant for adding and inclusion to the said video due to it’s rare historical posterity. Plus there is video footage of said trip also recorded for posterity as well and it is also quite rare of being one of the very couple of rare standard gauge steam locos to venture to Alice Springs as well, the other being 4472 Flying Scotsman from Britain. 3801 Alice Spring voyage: th-cam.com/video/99cD2SkiKk0/w-d-xo.html
@@ProfessorLocomotive it is still apparently quite popular as it’s not just views and video footage, it’s also many articles including it and featuring of said voyage in books, magazines, newsletters, you name it under the saying of: record it while you can, regardless of it’s lack of importance as sooner or later, it will eventually disappear or that chance will be gone. Comparison of video views is not a reliable indicator and is completely moot. You can ask the Australian Railway Historical Society and Australian Railway History magazine as well as Railways Digest magazine along with Transport Heritage NSW and they’ll easily back this historical importance up.
@@ProfessorLocomotiveidk, I personally don’t care that it’s not in the video but your title on TH-cam is the FULL history of the loco so I can see where they are coming from.
I'm a 76 year old ex railway apprentice and served my apprenticeship at cardiff workshops working on 3801 and her sisters, among several other classes. It was a unique period in time, half the erecting shop wea steam and half was diesel. Thus we received training that is not available anywhere these days. P.H.
@@ProfessorLocomotive rather uneducated response for a "professor" a famous train would be the Spirit of Progress, Southern Aurora, Ghan or Indian Paciffic, the green dildo is a locomotive and not even the most famous one by a long shot just the most publisised. puff shits all over it as far as international recognition.
@@philliphopkins6527 Thanks, Phillip...think it was the Cardiff shops that manufactured the last five of the 38 class. the last one, 3830, was also rebuilt and was running sometimes. The first five were bullet nosed streamlined out of Clyde Engineering and those in between 3806 to 3825 came out of Everleigh. Can you confirm this is accurate?
I’ve only seen 3801 twice; at Albury in 2021, and Thirlmere in 2022. Absolutely a beautiful locomotive to see with your own eyes.
@@hazptmedia And listen to with your ears and even smell with your nose. Haven't tasted it though.
R776 looked amazing today, had a very nice time with you at menangle professor, also this video is edited very well so good job!
I grew up in a railway family, as a child i would regularly see 3801 and its sistsr 38's as well as many of the other steam engine classes still working hard for a living, great way to grow up.
I’m not even Australian but this is my favorite loco
Pity the streamlined VR S class weren't preserved, they truly were an icon of the times. Looked magnificent streamlined.
My thoughts exactly, now that would have been something to see, 2 iconic streamliners together at Albury.
2 tenders were
Yes, there is vision of the Spirit of Progress in full steam to be found with a search....it is a sight to behold. Vision taken from a biplane in 1937-8. Not only the loco but carriages were magnificent.
Back in the mid 60's I was an apprentice fitter on the NSW Railways. I was working in the large erecting shop. One day I walked out side and there was 3801 just sitting there, full head of steam and ready to go and nobody in the cab. Being a inquisitive lad I climbed up into the cab to have a look. Fantastic, the heat, the smell and all those knobs and gauges. Then I accidentally stood on the bar that opens the firebox doors. Whoosh bang heat and noise all at once. You have never seen anyone exit a loco quicker than I did that day. 60 odd years later I still remember my experience with 3801.
Amazing footage indeed especially exiting the harbor bridge ............in ever way help me to show it nice song inclusion indeed. The Granville train accident is one that is rarely covered and seems to have been lost to the winds of time.
Nice job, professor as always
@@sebstraintime Thank you
Its a stunning locomotive and a tribute to Australian mechanical engineering expertise. Particularly since the German made replacement boiler had to be returned because of faults and the day was saved when an Australian firm rebuilt the original.
I think there was an imperial to metric conversion issue in the specifications. The Meiningen steam loco workshop in Germany is pretty much top notch and successfully rebuilds steamers from all over the world.
@@moestrei Sad that we Aussies have apparently lost the expertise in boilermaking because we definitely have the ability in our local steelmaking to produce the grades that are used
@flamingfrancis We seemed to have lost the ability to make anything nowdays. Look at all those disasters of imported train sets, it's a national disgrace.
what a great video, the run to west coast in 1970 was a very nostalgic time of my life,
i lived in port pirie then, i actually remember watching the last steam train go down
the main street of port pirie in 1966 when on holiday there. i was only around 7 then
we moved to live there soon after. did 3801 call into port pirie?
i can remember back then seeing two lines of retired steam locomotives lined up near peterburough end for end what was at that time for me as far as the eye could see,
my dad years later said there was 40-50 of them. after i grew up and as a teenager
with 'wheels' i went back looking for them but found out they had all been scrapped...
i was and still am very pissed off.
whats happening with the boiler from germany?
has/is it being fixed and sent back to australia as
a spare or did it have to be scrapped?
@@ThUnDaHuNtA_Australia The boiler from Germany had too many issues with it, which lead to it getting sent back to Germany (It never got repaired or sent back to Australia). Instead the original boiler was repaired. That’s the current boiler used for 3801 today.
in the 50,s and 60,s I grew up in New Lambton it’s suburb of Newcastle close to the northern line, we could hear from home the locos in the Broadmeadow yards shunting in the yard at night, I clearly remember the sound of the whistle of the Flyer as it thundered up the incline from Broadmeadow passing through the Adamstown Gates at great speed, at times my sister and I would wait on the overhead footbridge for a chance of seeing the flyer pass underneath us, soot, smoke and wet steam were our rewards, later in life I have ridden with my two elder brothers on the Train hauled by 3801 several times and have attended the Maitland steam fest which highlights the days of steam in the Hunter, all great memories
While she did not always haul the Flyer that train was known to hit max speeds around Wyee and then after stopping at Wyong. Nice flat open spaces that saw 3801 hit over 70mph. The 36's that often hauled were fairly quick too.
This is the best video I ever seen
@@TatumLambourne that means a lot, thank you
@@ProfessorLocomotive😊 your welcome I’m happy that someone made a history video about 3801 in sted of all the others
This is so good! How long did this take to make?!
@@LeroysTransportVlogs thanks Leroy, this video took about 1 week, I’m glad this video has done quite well.
Coolest whistle ever
Nice one, thanks.
When the 3801 undertook her trip with the flying Scotsman, my father was lucky enough to fire both of then when they were in Grafton, as he was the only person in the area with the qualification to do that for the 38 class in Northern NSW and the crew of the Scotsman were nice enough to let him fire it. This also meant that I was lucky enough to stand in the cabin of the 3801.
The exterior of the C38s were inspired by the New York, New Haven and Hartford (NYNH&H, but simply known as the New Haven) I-5 Hudson (4-6-4) steam locomotives, of which 10 were built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1937; these locomotives were scrapped in 1951, after only 14 years of service.
fun fact!. my grandfather is one year older than 3801!.
Good compilation but you didn’t mention the the 3801 is off the rails again awaiting parts. Sadly she was unable to be used in this year’s heritage events.
Unfortunately it is extremely expensive for the upkeep of this engine and although there is NSW Govt assistance they also rely on public donations.
My Dad was a relief station master at a central coast station on the day of that record set by the Flyer in 1964. I have a question re the vision shown. The Flyer of the day was an eight car air conditioned set with non opening windows but vision shown has passengers leaning from windows and with recorders set on table with windows open. Is there an explanation?
@@flamingfrancis Every video I watched relating the record shows that the carriages had functional windows that could go down.
@@ProfessorLocomotive en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_HUB_type_carriage_stock
@@flamingfrancis those carriages were not on the record run with 3801, you must of got mixed up. It also wasn’t an ordinary Newcastle flyer, it was listed as a special event. That could be why those carriages were not on the train.
i grew up with the 3801 vs tiger moth
What about the accident in 1990 at Cowan
@@JOSHYLIKESCARS16 it’s been mentioned in this video
I mean, if it isn’t australias most famous engine, it’s gotta be top 2. It’s either this or puffing billy, surely?
@@Alpha-oo8 yes, their both pretty famous locomotives from Australia.
You forgetting Heavy Harry?
@@sachinh1635 I wasn’t. I love Harry, but in terms of people having heard of them, 3801 and PB are better known. (Being in operational condition probably helps)
someone else has mentioned the Victorian S Class locos that hauled the beautiful Spirit of Progress (late 1930's) .well worth a look..note the carriages and the last car..I'm not Victorian...
Where’s the mention of 3801 venturing to Alice Springs?
@@steamier4472 not really an iconic moment known by much people. Kinda irrelevant to add to this video
@@ProfessorLocomotive I strongly disagree as it is apparently quite a famous historic iconic moment known by many people and it is suitably relevant for adding and inclusion to the said video due to it’s rare historical posterity. Plus there is video footage of said trip also recorded for posterity as well and it is also quite rare of being one of the very couple of rare standard gauge steam locos to venture to Alice Springs as well, the other being 4472 Flying Scotsman from Britain.
3801 Alice Spring voyage: th-cam.com/video/99cD2SkiKk0/w-d-xo.html
@ It might have been an iconic moment but it isn’t as popular if you compare it to the moments used in this video.
@@ProfessorLocomotive it is still apparently quite popular as it’s not just views and video footage, it’s also many articles including it and featuring of said voyage in books, magazines, newsletters, you name it under the saying of: record it while you can, regardless of it’s lack of importance as sooner or later, it will eventually disappear or that chance will be gone.
Comparison of video views is not a reliable indicator and is completely moot. You can ask the Australian Railway Historical Society and Australian Railway History magazine as well as Railways Digest magazine along with Transport Heritage NSW and they’ll easily back this historical importance up.
@@ProfessorLocomotiveidk, I personally don’t care that it’s not in the video but your title on TH-cam is the FULL history of the loco so I can see where they are coming from.
only caues xpt had 2 motor end running
Most Famous maybe only in The Premier State.
@@rainlori Still pretty famous in all the other states in australia
It looks like a prr s1
3801 is a locomotive not a train
@@philliphopkins6527 same thing….
I'm a 76 year old ex railway apprentice and served my apprenticeship at cardiff workshops working on 3801 and her sisters, among several other classes.
It was a unique period in time, half the erecting shop wea steam and half was diesel.
Thus we received training that is not available anywhere these days.
P.H.
@@ProfessorLocomotive rather uneducated response for a "professor" a famous train would be the Spirit of Progress, Southern Aurora, Ghan or Indian Paciffic, the green dildo is a locomotive and not even the most famous one by a long shot just the most publisised. puff shits all over it as far as international recognition.
@@philliphopkins6527 Thanks, Phillip...think it was the Cardiff shops that manufactured the last five of the 38 class. the last one, 3830, was also rebuilt and was running sometimes. The first five were bullet nosed streamlined out of Clyde Engineering and those in between 3806 to 3825 came out of Everleigh. Can you confirm this is accurate?
@@flamingfrancis hi Francis,
I started my apprenticeship in Dec 1963, so they were all in service by then ( I'm not sure of their build dates)