This government won't legalise escooters because they would save people lots of time and money which is not any concern for someone running the country, they're not at all bothered about the environment,,,,Period...Thank you Electroheads, if only our government were as concerned as we all are..
But the decision for legalisation does not rest with Sadiq. It's a matter for parliament. I want e-scooters to be legalised too and have been waiting 3 years now.
You’re missing the point. TH-cam channels that reference the mayor, and ULEZ too, in a negative light get lots of traction and clicks. Can you imagine how much of a vote winner it would be if groups of zombie knife wielding youth roamed around London on cheap scooters? The UK isn’t France or the Netherlands. People won’t wear high vis. I suspect someone had a word with whoever is responsible for transport and advised them it would be an absolute sh*t show if these things were everywhere. The trial makes sense.
@@KiranMachiraju That would sure alienate the rest of the country. I'm sure such 'ordinance' would still have to set out the standards and restrictions which the manufacturers of private e-scooters must still abide by. A London-only 'ordinance' is too provincial. Other big cities such as Birmingham, Manchester and Liverpool would get upset lol.
Living here in the US this is important issue for all of us if we want affordable and safe transportation. Here in Fort Collins Colorado we have scooters and it has been an incredible success.
Why would he allow a mode of transport to be used that he can't charge for? He's only interested in rinsing motorists for as much cash as he can. Great job in presenting by the way!
I live in a pretty small town, quiet roads, saw the Police pull over a young lad for riding his scooter. Makes my blood boil honestly, the law is beyond ridiculous. Kid was just trying to get around.
All the British government needs to do is follow the brilliant no bullock's way that France has done it.. simple... No pavement riding must have front and back lights must wear a helmet...if anyone does not follow those laws then your arrested and charged...simple
Remember this is the UK we are talking about, the laughing stock of the world when it comes down to progress. The government cannot arrange a piss up in a brewery without spending years trying to figure out the obvious.
Electric scooters are easier to cary when they are not being used so it makes them easier to take into shops, offices etc and don't have to find somewhere to lock them up where they can easily be stolen like bicycles.
I live in Canterbury, where we had a scooter trial, I have to admit, I only used one once, for a journey of about 2 miles, but I stuck to the roads, and felt safe. The reason that the trial failed in Canterbury, was because of riders who used the scooters on pedestrianised areas, there were a few people (mainly elderly) that suffered injuries through poor riding, but still, more people were injured by cycles over the same trial period. The thing is, cycles are legal, so the scooters got the heave ho (unfairly) Scooters will get a bad rep, because they are still new, and people don't like new, we see it with electric cars as well. Hopefully, you get your meeting, and things change. I am unlikely to ride a scooter ever again, but I want others to use them, it benefits everyone, including me.
It is nuts. Develop highway code for their behaviour as per cycles, legislate for safety features to allow safe arm signalling and enforce battery managment, bells, etc. Job done: no pavements or pedestrianised zones, they can use cycle lanes and must behave like cycles at all times. Its just not a problem!!! I dont even own one, im a driver and pedestrian but what a nonsense to restrict them to private land. Theyre just cycles in terms of road usage.
If you have a Driving License, you can ride up to a 125cc on your Driving License up to an unlimited BHP High Performance Sports Car with unlimited MPH. Why not an E Scooter. Let's get these Cycle Lanes rolled out and get eScooting.
The Westminster government make to much money in tax from rental e scooters and they can't come anywhere close to it with private owned so that should answer everybody's questions as to why there not yet legal
You're forgetting the white elephant in the room!. E-Scooters don't generate road tax for the Govt!. - I'm sure if there's tax involved it won't be an issue!
I only use mine to about 3 times a week max and do 7 miles 3 times per week MAX depending on weather as I haven't got a IP rated scooter. How ever I can't drive and can't afford to travel all those miles as its 2 different bus companies to get from my house classed as Doncaster my dad's only 3.5 miles away is classed as Rotherham. Anyhow cut a long story short he lost most of his site to glaucoma 4 years ago and relied on my older brother who did drive "cost him a ton in fuel" a hell of a lot. Anyway my older brother lost his life 2 months ago and now I rely on my scooter to go and help him out. So if the police do take my scooter 'I will buy a car ILLEGALLY and drive it like 100s 1000s of people do, and I will tell the police officer that does take my scooter what I will do
I do agree. However I was extremely shocked a few years ago by the death of an amazing TH-camr I was following. She was crushed on a London road while riding an e-scooter. I very much blame the awful unfriendly state of London roads for this.
Now all you need is for the 100k Electroheads subscribers to also send an email to an MP , and maybe, just maybe it'll get "considered for debate" in parliament
That’s the best and most cogent argument for private e-scooter regulation in the UK I’ve seen. Well done Will and the whole Electroheads team. Come on Sadiq Khan, ping Will a reply!!
I use my electric unicycle in the early hours of the morning to work, but i go through the marshes. Sometimes i see women and girls going to work at 3am. They can't wait at bus stop those hours. Also , saw an electrician take a scooter out of his van and off to work. Probably avoiding the congestion charge the government has imposed on everyone. And now they want another congestion charge? Also what if there's another transport strike?
Just to set the scene, I have changed my thoughts over the past couple of years or so and now have Solar Panels and an EV. However, I do now believe that EV's are not as 'clean' as is being advertised by the government and that 'Net Zero' is more a way to extract taxes and restrict free movement. Also, not everyone can afford to go 'green' unless there are cheaper options available. It is absolutely crazy that 125cc motorcycles are being banned. These provide affordable transport for people to get to work to earn money and pay taxes. They are an efficient way to deliver food, medication and other items. I followed a 125 scooter delivering blood just yesterday. What is the alternative, when this ban comes into force? The obvious alternatives are electric cycles and scooters. However, I do think that you must have training and pass some sort of test and get a license for these. After all, they do have the potential to cause serious injury to both the rider and others. Also, you must 'follow the rules of the road' even on a scooter. With that in mind, compulsory insurance and some sort of registration (with a visible means of identifying the rider or machine) is needed to ensure that they are used sensibly and that any damage or injury to others is covered. Obviously, it is necessary to ensure that the law is being observed.
They said last may 22 it was going through and they had a year to write the legislation so I don’t understand why they haven’t yet? It’s been a year is Uk this month.
I see there are numbers for injuries caused to e-scooter riders by motor vehicles, but how about injuries caused by them to pedestrians? I’m seeing near misses on a daily basis by them being ridden flat out on footpaths. Even when on roads it’s generally with total disregard for the highway code. I think the scooters are fine but do need some kind of regulation as has been previously mentioned re France
One big problem is that we don't operate like people in European countries. Very few people here know how to ride on the road, so they use the pavement. When the infrastructure does exist, many don't bother using it because they feel it's quicker for them to use the pavement, or stay on the road, or even ride the wrong direction on the road etc. In European countries like France, Netherlands etc, you get fined for not wearing the gear, not using cycle lanes etc but here no one gives a toss, so it's a free for all on the road. I ride an e-bike every day, I love it but let's be honest, how many ebikes on the road are 250w or less, restricted to 15mph support and have no twist and go function? Not many. I hope they put in some good legislation, open it up, increase power outputs, introduce higher power outputs that come with training / insurance requirements etc. Then enforce the law to remove as many bellends from the road (and pavements) as possible, regardless of their mode of transport.
The UK is a joke all over and this law is one joke. Yes make it to where to have to ride responsibly but don't make a personal owned one illegal. I'm getting an electric skateboard as ive not read theyre illegal but i can just ride it like a regular skateboard if i do see police just incase they want to be a prick. I'm so over using public transport as it adds up in price and tired of waiting around for it.
We in the uk seem to copy everything in the u.s right?? Electric bikes by law in the u.s are allowed to go 20mph! Here its 15.5 mph. It makes a big difference!
I agree, I have a Specialized Class 3 e-bike which is limited to 15.5 mph with pedal assist in the UK. In USA it’s pedal assist up to 28mph and 20 mph with a throttle. That would make e-bikes a realistic alternative to a car for local journeys
I am 53 , I ride the pavement at a easy pace and respect people walking on it . If I see the police I get off and walk , so far I haven't had a problem with the police and feel it is down to how you present yourself and how you ride it .
The absolutely last thing that needs legalising these things. And France is probably going to ban them because they’re ridiculously dangerous. What they’re not is safer than bikes…
It’s not the government that demonises e-scooters; it’s the few inconsiderate people who ride them irresponsibly. They have jeopardised any chance of them being made legal. Also, if they were to be made legal, then e-bikes should be able to be propelled with just a throttle. As in USA class 3 e-bikes: 28mph with pedal assist and 20 mph with a throttle.
Was thinking that e-tubes for e-wheel and bikes would be a worthwhile thing to make for places like London. I realize they would be expensive so started working on how they could be made to pay their way. A number of things come to mind, specifically delivery and especially food delivery. To achieve this a separate track could be installed along the ceiling where autonomous delivery devices could ride. The amount of deliveries made in London must be huge so lowering their cost while delivering them faster is a huge win. The side benefit of e-wheelers getting 24x7x365 clean/dry/safe transit tubes is a bonus! Right on with the campaign, I would suggest e-wheel training/classes and licenses as well. Also renewed car licenses and training for how to drive with e-wheelers/bikes. Thanks for the great editing work as well!
Tbh I see at least one electric scooter rider a day here in London. The law doesn’t look like it’s stopping everybody it’s better for everyone to just legalise it
But its ok to hire them though. So if i have a major accident on one of Limes scooters, is thier insurance going to pay out thousands if not millions if you loose a limb, no i dont think so. I am very interested to know what insurance they have if any.
@@iainamurray because this is the UK gov we are on about. If everyone is using scooters/bikes then how will they fill the gap from lower passengers on trains/busses not to mention the congestion charge
End of the day it's how they regulate the riders and how they ride these modes of transport. And of course if the UK do legalise privately owned e-scooters then Electroheads' sales of them will sky rocket.🤔
All the government care about is money... You'd think with Sadiq's new ULEZ zone, he would be happy to see a reduction in cars, and an increase in scooters... But no, this is all a money making scheme for him, as he is well aware people cannot afford to upgrade their cars. I for one, would rather quit work, and find a new job that pays less that put money in his pocket.
I'd support those scooters if the majority I've seen are ridden so badly and dangerously with no care for other users of roads and pavements. Love how people openly flout the law and just ride them anyhow. You are taking the right approach to getting them legalised and writing to the relevant authorities. Hopefully with that will come with better quality of driving/operation.
Tax is the main reason ,people with full driving car licences already know how to ride safely are un able to ride pollution free scooters, going with out food and a place to live nothing much said about that .any loss of possible revenue to the government not a chance
Unfortunately it's not up to the Mayor it's govt parliament. The govt blocked my registered escooter from getting insurance. As I said before, i have a fully registered escooter i used to use without concern as it was registered and insured the one year it was just removed by all insurance companies it just makes nonsense. In the USA they are riding 50 + mph scooters here we cant even get 15 mph, meanwhile 200 mph cars are killing people.
@@chukidee6634 Yes it had a number plate I used to ride with the number plate as it was insured with my motorcycle, but as I said oddly enough they scratched it from insurance companies. And no I'm not going to put photos of it on TH-cam I think that is what got me in to difficulty in the first place someone wanted info about it as they had the same scooter and couldn't get insurance for theirs, so I gave them my insurance company and the next thing I new they stopped insuring them, and so did everyone else. It's a basic scooter was sold as a road legal scooter, I got registration, number plate everything then bang a registered vehicle that can't get insurance.
@@flitsiesI'm sorry to hear all that. I didn't mean put your photos publicly online, I meant send them to me privately. If sent to me, you can scribble out the actual plate number without scribbling out the yellow plate. I wish to see what it looked like. Please.
@@chukidee6634 it's an evo nothing special, 1000 watts you can upgrade to I believe 1800 watts my one does about 20/25 mph with the upgrade it could go up to about 40 mph. But i did not need that much speed on a little scooter, I have a motorcycle which can go upwards of 130 plus which I never do haha right. The point Is they simply black listed the scooter after It was registered and had several years insurance on it, but after escooters became popular. So it was a deliberate act against escooters as my motorcycle insurance did not change as I have many years no claims. The insurance used to be a nominal fee for the scooter hardly worth them charging me it was so low.
I wsa tengentially involved with the e-bike rental scheme in Leicester, and after lots of effort putting infrastructure in place, it went bust. Picking up and dropping off at defined locations with limited availability, and cost just killed it. E-Scooters solve all that, and if we had some common sense laws (lights, bells, all the French stuff you mentioned) I'd be all for private ownership and operation.
As an E-bike rider whos fed up with trying to get the heavy clunky bike going from the off in the middle of crazy traffic, before the motor kicks in, and before a car hits me. If E-scooters get made legal, then throttle control on bikes better get made legal. Cause you don't see pedal assist on a scooter.
Great video and agree. There are people struggling financially, we have very difficult emissions targets to reach, pollution effects the nations health putting more stress on the NHS and look at the state of the roads and how much they cost with all the wear and tear from all the heavy motor vehicles. Legalizing All micromobility startiinh with scooters is the answer! 🤦♂️😀
People want shiny new things. Perhaps if electric scooters were legal, instead of buying two tonnes of electric car to commute in, they would by a scooter instead that is several orders of magnitude better for the environment and doesn’t contribute to the exact same congestion that electric cars are not a solution for (unless they’re micro cars).
3:29 where's that data from? I read the PACTS report and it all points to more danger from studies in multiple countries. Only naturally since the wheels are so tiny and the rake is so shallow. Also I don't think the Mayor can legalise a type of vehicle anyway, it's up to the government, that would be pretty silly if you could get points on your license for riding a scooter on one section of road and then if you passed the border into greater london you couldn't lol
Although the mayor can’t make e-scooters legal he could tell the police not to prioritise prosecution and confiscations except for those being ridden recklessly.
Sadiq Khan will never do that as he has more money from renting companies. This does not make any sense rental one are legal but private are illegal. They will have more money if they will make it legal.
Khan is a “see you next Tuesday!” Just look at how the ULEZ is currently going, it’s all about money! How much are you willing to pay to use your scooter in London? The other problem is he hasn’t got the power to change laws. You’re better off contacting the transportation secretary Rt Hon Mark Harper MP.
Real talk guys. If eye lash left electroheads and started making content for her own channel your viewing data would take a dive and tall eye would make enough money to wear clean white sneakers. Count your ruddy blessings you have her. Also one point against Billie is she really was unfair to that van driver when we all know her friend was at fault, mostly for being her friend. Thanks all. Be lucky.
Didn’t the belated Queen mention in her speech that scooters would be reviewed during the year 2022-2023. Has this happened ? Did the government only see fit that “rented” scooters are okay on our roads just not ones you can buy yourself.
Friends of the Earth, ClientEarth and the Good Law Project have taken the government to court over climate change inaction. They may be willing to help legalise e-scooters.
I used to be for legalising. However I bought a scooter from Halfords where I assumed it would be as safe as could be due to them championing legalisation. I went out one evening, hit a stone, flew off and didn’t even have the chance to put my hands out before I knocked my front tooth clean out. 3 grand of dental treatment later… they need to seriously consider the safety of them in my opinion.
I appreciate what you went through but at the same time, that just sounds like an unfortunate accident. The same could have happened on a bicycle or tripping going up some stairs.
@@benglasgow and this was always my attitude when asked, “it could have happened on a bicycle” but the reality is, it would have been more unlikely. I can’t explain how unstable it was, I was going perhaps 10mph, a tiny stone hit the front wheel and the scooter stopped immediately, back end went up and swung me straight towards the ground. I do still feel they have a place but there certainly is some fundamental design flaws with the current ones that need addressing before I can view them as safe. A legal size for their wheels would be a good start
@@Mikepragland perhaps, but it could have also been down to riding style or something else. I just don’t think it’s fair to damn them for a freak accident.
I did had kuggo g booster get stopped by police more then I get stopped on car or motocycle pretty much every time I use it to commute to work .I hope they get legalized soon ...had to sell it because of risk to be impounded
Sorry the reason why e scooters will get banned completely, is because a minority ride them like idiots! They are tunned up and can in some cases do over 40mph, old people on the pavements are terrified of them, people have to feel safe and currently dont.
I have a Solar P1 I bought for a literal mobility scooter, as in poor breathing, poor walking ability, I have anxiety riding it due to the law yet have full car and motorcycle license and road sense. Surely the law is impacting on my human rights? It is not the escooter, the moped, the e bike, the skateboard, the one wheel, that are dangerous it is the user, a car kills someone every day but is obviously legal. Do we just take all the limiting of our lives, the soon to be trialled 15 minute cities, having a fixed number of journeys per year we are granted/allowed to take? Or do we say, sorry enough is enough and actually start to claw back our freedoms. My grandads brother fought in WW1 in the machinegun corps, he lost most of his friends there and believed he was protecting future generations so they would have a freer life. Look how corrupted the law as become, one law for us and a big ignore the law from them, the gov. Sorry but I have had it with being subservient. Respect
Can’t see it happening. The public don’t want these things hurtling around on the footpaths and motorists and cyclists don’t want them on the roads. Some cities could partially cater for them but the road networks elsewhere are not suitable. You just have to look how illegal scooters are used to imagine what would happen with a free for all scenario.
Pleased to meet you Will. Eilis will tell you about my reservations about e-scooters...tldr they really must be kept away from buses and other large vehicles. However today on the local news someone was horribly injured in a fire which killed his dog whose barking saved him from dying. It was caused by an exploding e-scooter battery. Rather than make me even more against them it made me think that if they were properly regulated we wouldn't have these shoddy illegal machines in people's houses causing such devastation. So I hope you get an answer from the mayor but if they are to be legalised part of the campaign must be to stop sharing streets with buses... e-scooters are invisible to them from so many angles. 👍
its going in the right direction But 85% of people wont commute on E-Anything in wintry weather (FACT) I commute 30 miles 50km on my 250w E-bike throughout winter and i am just about sick of the wind & rain and the cold right now so even i have been using the train to travel these last couple of weeks into London and the bike lane system in this city is pretty crap for example Westminster bridge cycle lane becomes a tourist sitting area in summer and many cycle lanes just end , leaving me on dangerous bits of road and the Mayor who is a real Nightmare will only employ money making schemes . would all of the cheap scooters you recommend Pass stringent safety checks I would definitely pick a Scooter over an E-bike and the beauty of E- transport is that when you encounter traffic you can hop off and navigate around it . Big fan of the channel it was because of the channels review of the Volt London E-bike that i went a got one in September last year and have currently covered 2800 miles /4500Km all the best Electroheads
I don't know who you Electroheads will vote for this election, but if you want green transportation then you should vote for the Green Party. They're promising to make public transport affordable and introduce micro mobility. I'm a Green Party voter! I should also say that Sadiq Khan might not win the next mayor election, so it will not just be down to him, but whoever the new mayor of London is.
If the government doesn't legalize electric scooters then ride electric bicycles. Anyhow, I would take electric bicycle / scooter over short distances any time over public transportation. The long waiting times irritate me.
Great - but please condemn the media - not just politicians. The media has spent 60-70 years glorifying cars/the internal combustion engine and demonizing anything that threatens the supremacy and primacy of cars and the internal combustion engine. Paul G
Buy they want you to spend all your money, on petrol, bus fares, train tickets etc. Thats the problem, that’s why they don’t like WFH or e-mobility, if you and everyone else stops using TFL, who pays for the busses, bus drivers and underground system?
I wanted to use the escooter rental scheme for the last few miles of my commute into York city centre. Unfortunately the nearest scooters are 15 minutes walk from the park and ride car park, they’re also the same cost as just taking a taxi the same distance!
This government won't legalise escooters because they would save people lots of time and money which is not any concern for someone running the country, they're not at all bothered about the environment,,,,Period...Thank you Electroheads, if only our government were as concerned as we all are..
Don’t forget the loss in taxes too multiplied across many people…
Idiot , They are dangerous and people are dying due to the ignorant people who use them . Would you let a 12 year old drive a car ?
But the decision for legalisation does not rest with Sadiq. It's a matter for parliament. I want e-scooters to be legalised too and have been waiting 3 years now.
You’re missing the point. TH-cam channels that reference the mayor, and ULEZ too, in a negative light get lots of traction and clicks. Can you imagine how much of a vote winner it would be if groups of zombie knife wielding youth roamed around London on cheap scooters? The UK isn’t France or the Netherlands. People won’t wear high vis. I suspect someone had a word with whoever is responsible for transport and advised them it would be an absolute sh*t show if these things were everywhere. The trial makes sense.
I think the mayor can issue an ordinance to use electric scooters within city limits... I'm not sure though
@@KiranMachiraju That would sure alienate the rest of the country. I'm sure such 'ordinance' would still have to set out the standards and restrictions which the manufacturers of private e-scooters must still abide by. A London-only 'ordinance' is too provincial. Other big cities such as Birmingham, Manchester and Liverpool would get upset lol.
@@chukidee6634 they can set their own byelaws
Actually no it’s for us as equals, legislation is not law so f em.
Living here in the US this is important issue for all of us if we want affordable and safe transportation.
Here in Fort Collins Colorado we have scooters and it has been an incredible success.
Great!
Why would he allow a mode of transport to be used that he can't charge for? He's only interested in rinsing motorists for as much cash as he can. Great job in presenting by the way!
You do realise that the London Mayor doesn't have the authority to enact legislation in Parliament, right?
@@iainamurrayPrecisely! That's what I've been saying. The decision doesn't sit with Sadiq
Not even an e-scooter rider but totally agree with the sentiment. Also, great presenter and such an engaging edit!! We need to see more of Will!!
I live in a pretty small town, quiet roads, saw the Police pull over a young lad for riding his scooter. Makes my blood boil honestly, the law is beyond ridiculous. Kid was just trying to get around.
All the British government needs to do is follow the brilliant no bullock's way that France has done it.. simple... No pavement riding must have front and back lights must wear a helmet...if anyone does not follow those laws then your arrested and charged...simple
Remember this is the UK we are talking about, the laughing stock of the world when it comes down to progress. The government cannot arrange a piss up in a brewery without spending years trying to figure out the obvious.
The reason they will not legalize privately owned electric scooters is the fact that public transportation costs are astronomical = more tax
Mayor gets knock back from official rental scooters, but nothing from privately owned ones.
Good job presenting, Will!
Thank you! Hope to be in more!
Electric scooters are easier to cary when they are not being used so it makes them easier to take into shops, offices etc and don't have to find somewhere to lock them up where they can easily be stolen like bicycles.
I live in Canterbury, where we had a scooter trial, I have to admit, I only used one once, for a journey of about 2 miles, but I stuck to the roads, and felt safe. The reason that the trial failed in Canterbury, was because of riders who used the scooters on pedestrianised areas, there were a few people (mainly elderly) that suffered injuries through poor riding, but still, more people were injured by cycles over the same trial period. The thing is, cycles are legal, so the scooters got the heave ho (unfairly)
Scooters will get a bad rep, because they are still new, and people don't like new, we see it with electric cars as well.
Hopefully, you get your meeting, and things change. I am unlikely to ride a scooter ever again, but I want others to use them, it benefits everyone, including me.
Well done Will, almost as good as Eilis 😉 I am really looking forward to the follow up where you will be invited to the mayors office for an interview
Haha, one day I'll get there... Thanks very much, hope so!!
It is nuts.
Develop highway code for their behaviour as per cycles, legislate for safety features to allow safe arm signalling and enforce battery managment, bells, etc.
Job done: no pavements or pedestrianised zones, they can use cycle lanes and must behave like cycles at all times.
Its just not a problem!!!
I dont even own one, im a driver and pedestrian but what a nonsense to restrict them to private land. Theyre just cycles in terms of road usage.
Spain, Portugal and France are much further on with regard to Scooters and ebike. They just the cycle lanes. No one seemed to have any issues.
If you have a Driving License, you can ride up to a 125cc on your Driving License up to an unlimited BHP High Performance Sports Car with unlimited MPH. Why not an E Scooter. Let's get these Cycle Lanes rolled out and get eScooting.
The Westminster government make to much money in tax from rental e scooters and they can't come anywhere close to it with private owned so that should answer everybody's questions as to why there not yet legal
You're forgetting the white elephant in the room!. E-Scooters don't generate road tax for the Govt!. - I'm sure if there's tax involved it won't be an issue!
I only use mine to about 3 times a week max and do 7 miles 3 times per week MAX depending on weather as I haven't got a IP rated scooter.
How ever I can't drive and can't afford to travel all those miles as its 2 different bus companies to get from my house classed as Doncaster my dad's only 3.5 miles away is classed as Rotherham.
Anyhow cut a long story short he lost most of his site to glaucoma 4 years ago and relied on my older brother who did drive "cost him a ton in fuel" a hell of a lot. Anyway my older brother lost his life 2 months ago and now I rely on my scooter to go and help him out.
So if the police do take my scooter 'I will buy a car ILLEGALLY and drive it like 100s 1000s of people do, and I will tell the police officer that does take my scooter what I will do
I do agree. However I was extremely shocked a few years ago by the death of an amazing TH-camr I was following. She was crushed on a London road while riding an e-scooter. I very much blame the awful unfriendly state of London roads for this.
Now all you need is for the 100k Electroheads subscribers to also send an email to an MP , and maybe, just maybe it'll get "considered for debate" in parliament
That’s the best and most cogent argument for private e-scooter regulation in the UK I’ve seen. Well done Will and the whole Electroheads team. Come on Sadiq Khan, ping Will a reply!!
I use my electric unicycle in the early hours of the morning to work, but i go through the marshes. Sometimes i see women and girls going to work at 3am. They can't wait at bus stop those hours. Also , saw an electrician take a scooter out of his van and off to work. Probably avoiding the congestion charge the government has imposed on everyone. And now they want another congestion charge? Also what if there's another transport strike?
Just to set the scene, I have changed my thoughts over the past couple of years or so and now have Solar Panels and an EV. However, I do now believe that EV's are not as 'clean' as is being advertised by the government and that 'Net Zero' is more a way to extract taxes and restrict free movement. Also, not everyone can afford to go 'green' unless there are cheaper options available.
It is absolutely crazy that 125cc motorcycles are being banned. These provide affordable transport for people to get to work to earn money and pay taxes. They are an efficient way to deliver food, medication and other items. I followed a 125 scooter delivering blood just yesterday. What is the alternative, when this ban comes into force?
The obvious alternatives are electric cycles and scooters. However, I do think that you must have training and pass some sort of test and get a license for these. After all, they do have the potential to cause serious injury to both the rider and others. Also, you must 'follow the rules of the road' even on a scooter. With that in mind, compulsory insurance and some sort of registration (with a visible means of identifying the rider or machine) is needed to ensure that they are used sensibly and that any damage or injury to others is covered. Obviously, it is necessary to ensure that the law is being observed.
They said last may 22 it was going through and they had a year to write the legislation so I don’t understand why they haven’t yet? It’s been a year is Uk this month.
I see there are numbers for injuries caused to e-scooter riders by motor vehicles, but how about injuries caused by them to pedestrians? I’m seeing near misses on a daily basis by them being ridden flat out on footpaths. Even when on roads it’s generally with total disregard for the highway code. I think the scooters are fine but do need some kind of regulation as has been previously mentioned re France
The Mayor of London is not a law-maker. MPs are. Probably that will be the answer. Alas, great arguments.
One big problem is that we don't operate like people in European countries. Very few people here know how to ride on the road, so they use the pavement. When the infrastructure does exist, many don't bother using it because they feel it's quicker for them to use the pavement, or stay on the road, or even ride the wrong direction on the road etc.
In European countries like France, Netherlands etc, you get fined for not wearing the gear, not using cycle lanes etc but here no one gives a toss, so it's a free for all on the road. I ride an e-bike every day, I love it but let's be honest, how many ebikes on the road are 250w or less, restricted to 15mph support and have no twist and go function? Not many. I hope they put in some good legislation, open it up, increase power outputs, introduce higher power outputs that come with training / insurance requirements etc. Then enforce the law to remove as many bellends from the road (and pavements) as possible, regardless of their mode of transport.
The UK is a joke all over and this law is one joke. Yes make it to where to have to ride responsibly but don't make a personal owned one illegal. I'm getting an electric skateboard as ive not read theyre illegal but i can just ride it like a regular skateboard if i do see police just incase they want to be a prick. I'm so over using public transport as it adds up in price and tired of waiting around for it.
We in the uk seem to copy everything in the u.s right?? Electric bikes by law in the u.s are allowed to go 20mph! Here its 15.5 mph. It makes a big difference!
I agree, I have a Specialized Class 3 e-bike which is limited to 15.5 mph with pedal assist in the UK. In USA it’s pedal assist up to 28mph and 20 mph with a throttle. That would make e-bikes a realistic alternative to a car for local journeys
Good job mate
Cheers Josh!
I am 53 , I ride the pavement at a easy pace and respect people walking on it . If I see the police I get off and walk , so far I haven't had a problem with the police and feel it is down to how you present yourself and how you ride it .
Is this in London?
I am 67 and use one the same way you are using your's 🙂
@@byshiri1751 no , Devon.
The absolutely last thing that needs legalising these things. And France is probably going to ban them because they’re ridiculously dangerous. What they’re not is safer than bikes…
It’s not the government that demonises e-scooters; it’s the few inconsiderate people who ride them irresponsibly. They have jeopardised any chance of them being made legal. Also, if they were to be made legal, then e-bikes should be able to be propelled with just a throttle. As in USA class 3 e-bikes: 28mph with pedal assist and 20 mph with a throttle.
Oh my gosh, will e-horse be at the fully charged show? Big fan of the E-horse!!!
so am I, so glad ehorses are legal and The menace called escooters are not!
The E-horse may be making an appearance 👀🐴
Was thinking that e-tubes for e-wheel and bikes would be a worthwhile thing to make for places like London. I realize they would be expensive so started working on how they could be made to pay their way. A number of things come to mind, specifically delivery and especially food delivery. To achieve this a separate track could be installed along the ceiling where autonomous delivery devices could ride. The amount of deliveries made in London must be huge so lowering their cost while delivering them faster is a huge win. The side benefit of e-wheelers getting 24x7x365 clean/dry/safe transit tubes is a bonus! Right on with the campaign, I would suggest e-wheel training/classes and licenses as well. Also renewed car licenses and training for how to drive with e-wheelers/bikes. Thanks for the great editing work as well!
In Portugal you can use electric scooters
Tbh I see at least one electric scooter rider a day here in London. The law doesn’t look like it’s stopping everybody it’s better for everyone to just legalise it
Good evidence based email. The problem is the buses and trains need more customers. And politicians cannot run baths.
But its ok to hire them though.
So if i have a major accident on one of Limes scooters, is thier insurance going to pay out thousands if not millions if you loose a limb, no i dont think so.
I am very interested to know what insurance they have if any.
The only way they will allow people to ride these legally is they somehow get payment for people using them, prob some sort of tax I guess 😢
Why do you imagine that? Bikes and ebikes aren't charged directly. The law needs to change to categorise them properly.
@@iainamurray because this is the UK gov we are on about. If everyone is using scooters/bikes then how will they fill the gap from lower passengers on trains/busses not to mention the congestion charge
End of the day it's how they regulate the riders and how they ride these modes of transport.
And of course if the UK do legalise privately owned e-scooters then Electroheads' sales of them will sky rocket.🤔
All the government care about is money... You'd think with Sadiq's new ULEZ zone, he would be happy to see a reduction in cars, and an increase in scooters... But no, this is all a money making scheme for him, as he is well aware people cannot afford to upgrade their cars. I for one, would rather quit work, and find a new job that pays less that put money in his pocket.
The current situation where only official hire schemes for electric scooters are legal is a legacy of Mayor Boris Johnson not Sadiq Khan.
I'd support those scooters if the majority I've seen are ridden so badly and dangerously with no care for other users of roads and pavements. Love how people openly flout the law and just ride them anyhow. You are taking the right approach to getting them legalised and writing to the relevant authorities. Hopefully with that will come with better quality of driving/operation.
Tax is the main reason ,people with full driving car licences already know how to ride safely are un able to ride pollution free scooters, going with out food and a place to live nothing much said about that .any loss of possible revenue to the government not a chance
Unfortunately it's not up to the Mayor it's govt parliament.
The govt blocked my registered escooter from getting insurance.
As I said before, i have a fully registered escooter i used to use without concern as it was registered and insured the one year it was just removed by all insurance companies it just makes nonsense.
In the USA they are riding 50 + mph scooters here we cant even get 15 mph, meanwhile 200 mph cars are killing people.
Hi mate, did your fully registered e-scooter have a licence plate?
Could you send me some pics of your registered e-scooter?
@@chukidee6634 Yes it had a number plate I used to ride with the number plate as it was insured with my motorcycle, but as I said oddly enough they scratched it from insurance companies.
And no I'm not going to put photos of it on TH-cam I think that is what got me in to difficulty in the first place someone wanted info about it as they had the same scooter and couldn't get insurance for theirs, so I gave them my insurance company and the next thing I new they stopped insuring them, and so did everyone else.
It's a basic scooter was sold as a road legal scooter, I got registration, number plate everything then bang a registered vehicle that can't get insurance.
@@flitsiesI'm sorry to hear all that. I didn't mean put your photos publicly online, I meant send them to me privately. If sent to me, you can scribble out the actual plate number without scribbling out the yellow plate. I wish to see what it looked like. Please.
@@chukidee6634 it's an evo nothing special, 1000 watts you can upgrade to I believe 1800 watts my one does about 20/25 mph with the upgrade it could go up to about 40 mph.
But i did not need that much speed on a little scooter, I have a motorcycle which can go upwards of 130 plus which I never do haha right.
The point Is they simply black listed the scooter after It was registered and had several years insurance on it, but after escooters became popular.
So it was a deliberate act against escooters as my motorcycle insurance did not change as I have many years no claims.
The insurance used to be a nominal fee for the scooter hardly worth them charging me it was so low.
@@flitsies The deliberate act you mention is something that was also mentioned to me elsewhere
I wsa tengentially involved with the e-bike rental scheme in Leicester, and after lots of effort putting infrastructure in place, it went bust. Picking up and dropping off at defined locations with limited availability, and cost just killed it. E-Scooters solve all that, and if we had some common sense laws (lights, bells, all the French stuff you mentioned) I'd be all for private ownership and operation.
As an E-bike rider whos fed up with trying to get the heavy clunky bike going from the off in the middle of crazy traffic, before the motor kicks in, and before a car hits me. If E-scooters get made legal, then throttle control on bikes better get made legal. Cause you don't see pedal assist on a scooter.
Great video and agree. There are people struggling financially, we have very difficult emissions targets to reach, pollution effects the nations health putting more stress on the NHS and look at the state of the roads and how much they cost with all the wear and tear from all the heavy motor vehicles. Legalizing All micromobility startiinh with scooters is the answer! 🤦♂️😀
If we add pedals and a seat to an electric scooter can we identify it as an electric bicycle?
I think that you've sent this to the wrong person. I don't believe that the London mayor can change the regulation because its a national law
So I damaged my spine and got one to help me get around. Its brilliant and life changing for me .. yet its illegal because ??? Makes no sense ..
People want shiny new things. Perhaps if electric scooters were legal, instead of buying two tonnes of electric car to commute in, they would by a scooter instead that is several orders of magnitude better for the environment and doesn’t contribute to the exact same congestion that electric cars are not a solution for (unless they’re micro cars).
Emobility is not just Londontowncentric but good luck anyway in getting any response from Mr Khan
If I had an electric scooter back in college, it would have been way easier getting across campus. And an e-bike could have replaced my car.
3:29 where's that data from? I read the PACTS report and it all points to more danger from studies in multiple countries. Only naturally since the wheels are so tiny and the rake is so shallow.
Also I don't think the Mayor can legalise a type of vehicle anyway, it's up to the government, that would be pretty silly if you could get points on your license for riding a scooter on one section of road and then if you passed the border into greater london you couldn't lol
Hi Will, just wanna say that I love the way you edit videos, the memes and cutaways are always hilarious 😂
It's not down to him though. It will need an Act of Parliament. Can you email Rishi?
Although the mayor can’t make e-scooters legal he could tell the police not to prioritise prosecution and confiscations except for those being ridden recklessly.
Sadiq Khan will never do that as he has more money from renting companies. This does not make any sense rental one are legal but private are illegal. They will have more money if they will make it legal.
With that extra £1000 you could pay for the electricity to charge your scooter each day
Hopefully throw these idiot politicians out.
Khan is a “see you next Tuesday!” Just look at how the ULEZ is currently going, it’s all about money! How much are you willing to pay to use your scooter in London? The other problem is he hasn’t got the power to change laws. You’re better off contacting the transportation secretary Rt Hon Mark Harper MP.
⚡ *The man before the funny edits* ⚡👏🏼👌🏼🤙🏼
3:34 Love the E-horse character, more of this, please!
Be careful what you wish for. The E-Horse is a force to be reckoned with.
@@Electroheads make it so!
If they are legalised they need to be controlled. No pavement riding with power. Mandatory insurance and helmets. And strict speed limit controls.
Real talk guys. If eye lash left electroheads and started making content for her own channel your viewing data would take a dive and tall eye would make enough money to wear clean white sneakers. Count your ruddy blessings you have her. Also one point against Billie is she really was unfair to that van driver when we all know her friend was at fault, mostly for being her friend. Thanks all. Be lucky.
I think I need an e-scooter, an off-road capable one for Highland roads [...researching, and etc]
Isn't it parliament that would have to legislate for this? That would also help those mad fools who don't live in London, like me!
Didn’t the belated Queen mention in her speech that scooters would be reviewed during the year 2022-2023. Has this happened ? Did the government only see fit that “rented” scooters are okay on our roads just not ones you can buy yourself.
I've been riding my e scooter around london with no problems at all but i dont go round driving fast and not all over the place
…Rishi Sunak’s father-in-law, was involved in the Government’s emergency alert system.
No money to be made in letting people ride their own scooters…
At last, someone presenting with a proper accent!!
Friends of the Earth, ClientEarth and the Good Law Project have taken the government to court over climate change inaction. They may be willing to help legalise e-scooters.
I used to be for legalising. However I bought a scooter from Halfords where I assumed it would be as safe as could be due to them championing legalisation. I went out one evening, hit a stone, flew off and didn’t even have the chance to put my hands out before I knocked my front tooth clean out. 3 grand of dental treatment later… they need to seriously consider the safety of them in my opinion.
I appreciate what you went through but at the same time, that just sounds like an unfortunate accident. The same could have happened on a bicycle or tripping going up some stairs.
@@benglasgow and this was always my attitude when asked, “it could have happened on a bicycle” but the reality is, it would have been more unlikely. I can’t explain how unstable it was, I was going perhaps 10mph, a tiny stone hit the front wheel and the scooter stopped immediately, back end went up and swung me straight towards the ground. I do still feel they have a place but there certainly is some fundamental design flaws with the current ones that need addressing before I can view them as safe. A legal size for their wheels would be a good start
@@Mikepragland perhaps, but it could have also been down to riding style or something else. I just don’t think it’s fair to damn them for a freak accident.
I did had kuggo g booster get stopped by police more then I get stopped on car or motocycle pretty much every time I use it to commute to work .I hope they get legalized soon ...had to sell it because of risk to be impounded
Sorry the reason why e scooters will get banned completely, is because a minority ride them like idiots! They are tunned up and can in some cases do over 40mph, old people on the pavements are terrified of them, people have to feel safe and currently dont.
Will, welcome to the presenting team. Time to get a new editor!
Love this channel.
We love YOU!
Well done. Hope you get a response; hope they’re legalized.
I have a Solar P1 I bought for a literal mobility scooter, as in poor breathing, poor walking ability, I have anxiety riding it due to the law yet have full car and motorcycle license and road sense. Surely the law is impacting on my human rights? It is not the escooter, the moped, the e bike, the skateboard, the one wheel, that are dangerous it is the user, a car kills someone every day but is obviously legal. Do we just take all the limiting of our lives, the soon to be trialled 15 minute cities, having a fixed number of journeys per year we are granted/allowed to take? Or do we say, sorry enough is enough and actually start to claw back our freedoms. My grandads brother fought in WW1 in the machinegun corps, he lost most of his friends there and believed he was protecting future generations so they would have a freer life. Look how corrupted the law as become, one law for us and a big ignore the law from them, the gov. Sorry but I have had it with being subservient. Respect
Can’t see it happening. The public don’t want these things hurtling around on the footpaths and motorists and cyclists don’t want them on the roads. Some cities could partially cater for them but the road networks elsewhere are not suitable. You just have to look how illegal scooters are used to imagine what would happen with a free for all scenario.
The daily mail, is a rag.
Pleased to meet you Will. Eilis will tell you about my reservations about e-scooters...tldr they really must be kept away from buses and other large vehicles.
However today on the local news someone was horribly injured in a fire which killed his dog whose barking saved him from dying. It was caused by an exploding e-scooter battery. Rather than make me even more against them it made me think that if they were properly regulated we wouldn't have these shoddy illegal machines in people's houses causing such devastation.
So I hope you get an answer from the mayor but if they are to be legalised part of the campaign must be to stop sharing streets with buses... e-scooters are invisible to them from so many angles. 👍
Good job Will. Let's hope Sadiq at least has the decency to reply
This episode was fun!! Well done Will.
its going in the right direction But 85% of people wont commute on E-Anything in wintry weather (FACT)
I commute 30 miles 50km on my 250w E-bike throughout winter and i am just about sick of the wind & rain and the cold right now so even i have been using the train to travel these last couple of weeks into London and the bike lane system in this city is pretty crap for example Westminster bridge cycle lane becomes a tourist sitting area in summer and many cycle lanes just end , leaving me on dangerous bits of road and the Mayor who is a real Nightmare will only employ money making schemes .
would all of the cheap scooters you recommend Pass stringent safety checks
I would definitely pick a Scooter over an E-bike and the beauty of E- transport is that when you encounter traffic you can hop off and navigate around it .
Big fan of the channel
it was because of the channels review of the Volt London E-bike that i went a got one in September last year and have currently covered 2800 miles /4500Km
all the best Electroheads
Nice first video - well done.
I don't know who you Electroheads will vote for this election, but if you want green transportation then you should vote for the Green Party. They're promising to make public transport affordable and introduce micro mobility. I'm a Green Party voter!
I should also say that Sadiq Khan might not win the next mayor election, so it will not just be down to him, but whoever the new mayor of London is.
WE NEED UNION OF EL.SCOOTERS RIDERS!!!!! FREEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeeeees we need more Will. Amazing video👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Please ask him to take a long walk as well mate....
Will. Talk to me of that sim racing setup 😂
Escooters are banned because the government will lose too much tax
If the government doesn't legalize electric scooters then ride electric bicycles. Anyhow, I would take electric bicycle / scooter over short distances any time over public transportation. The long waiting times irritate me.
Great - but please condemn the media - not just politicians. The media has spent 60-70 years glorifying cars/the internal combustion engine and demonizing anything that threatens the supremacy and primacy of cars and the internal combustion engine.
Paul G
Buy they want you to spend all your money, on petrol, bus fares, train tickets etc. Thats the problem, that’s why they don’t like WFH or e-mobility, if you and everyone else stops using TFL, who pays for the busses, bus drivers and underground system?
Nice job.
Good one, enjoyed this. Good job Will...
I wanted to use the escooter rental scheme for the last few miles of my commute into York city centre.
Unfortunately the nearest scooters are 15 minutes walk from the park and ride car park, they’re also the same cost as just taking a taxi the same distance!