It's not all was split from one how can the ss be an alternate dimension to the world of the living if it was split from the primordial universe alternate dimension are space or space time construction that are completely closed if from each other meaning they just look a like buh buh are are composed if the same Time and space
@@samuelbepele8701You literally didnt prove anything but just made a bunch of baseless ranting. There is already canon statements explaining the Cosmology and the guy already have mentioned it. And Realms would literally be seperate. Thats how it works. All of what you said simply would upscales the Primordial Universe. Its the Soul King in the First Place who created the concept of Life and Death in the Verse. So he could have simply made them as such.
@@shonenkon2456Bro one correction. The Soul King creater the new Verse with his Raw Power,not Almighty. In the Japanese raws,It says that with Reio’s 全能の力 (omnipotent/almighty power) the universe was created. The kanji used for “almighty” to describe Reio’s power is 全能, the kanji used for the schrift “The Almighty” is 全知全能 (the furigana in that scan is “ji oorumaiti” aka The Almighty). They are not the same.
i remember being a naruto goon back in the good ol days but even back then it felt like i could make universal - MV arguments for bleach way easier than naruto
@@pacmiller7564 honestly that’s just for every verse people will always be biased towards what they like ignoring facts cause another verse is stronger
@@onesmart229 nope Rukia mentioned them being in a Universe all the way back in the substitute shinigami arc. Naruto's quote Universal statements start in shippuden the war arc to be exact the CFYOW light novels only add on and solidified Yhwach and the Soul king as Universal atleast
3:08 That's actually an argument that I usually make. Because **they** have no way of proving that the celestial bodies in Soul Society are made of kishi (physical matter), so it's nice to see somebody else who came to the same conclusion.
Leaving aside all the evidence that obviously proves that garganta is not a vacuum, void much less outer space. The strongest point that proves that garganta is not a void but a stream of scrambled reishi and that therefore the realms cannot be "interconnected planets" is the simple fact that kenpachi was literally injured and affected when exposed to actual outer space (the one that gremmy CREATED), while characters like orihime, urahara, ichigo, uryu, chad have been able to travel through garganta without any problem in the VERY FIRST ARC. So the only real way to prove that garganta is a "void" is to scale base ichigo, base orihime, base chad and base uryu at the beginning of soul society arc at very least 10 times above kenpachi shikai 😂
100% Agree. I always roll my eyes when people make the argument that the realms are planets, and that the Garganta is outer space. It does not make any sense. 🙄🤦♂
@@no1hasmyburgerh6057 well cause they listen to down players who don't know anything about bleach cosmolgy plus bleach cosmolgy is hard to understand sometimes but only a few dragon ball fans say bleach is plantery I think it because since the dimension are shaped like planets it means there plantery
This video makes way more sense than hundreds of pages of forums... Thanks mate... Always doubted about how the bleach verse was vast, now that it's clear, I made up my mind on it, Kubo is a genius of shonen nekketsu.
Probably not, since a single person from the original earth created the current worlds. No 100% can be made for now, however they wouldn't govern their own circulation even if some of them managed to become soul reapers, maybe that's how different gods are possible?
@@MasterNabbernope it's not unlike naruto or dragon ball which actually show you that i mean in naruto or dragon it's pratical so there's no multiverse or anything like that in the bleach verse
@@shonenkon2456 even if there are stars in it and by knowing that how astrology works in bleach (with the justified pages of bleach manga of orihime and ichigo reading about astrology) some still don't think that the quincy king wanted to destroy 3 universes... I think that the only answer to this is that if someone wants to understand something, he understands it, but if he doesn't, he just rejects it, simple as that.
he also wanted to recreate the concept of life and death and merge all of the realms and concept manipulation scales wayy higher than universal or even multiversal for that matter its interesting to look into but alot of people miss that point
@@chrisboricua1911 yeah and yet there's still people who believes that bleach ain't at least universal and that frieza namek saga first form could solo bleach XD. And there's some people who say that him destroying the linchpin of existence isn't a feat, right, but I think that the linchpin of existence is kind of a gateway to start destroying and recreating the realms/universes he wanted to, cuz I think that the quincy king's power works kind of like a plane's reactors, they are very powerful, they can make fly hundreds of tons of metal at 800 - 900 - 1000 km/h, but yet they need some space and time to show their full power cuz their acceleration is the thing that holds them back to make directly make the plane fly from the airport, and in bleach, I think that the linchpin just slowed the process of the quincy king's plan, and let's not forget that it's his father the soul king who separated with his power at his prime the universes that contributed to the bleach "known" (I say known cuz kubo didn't reveal all yet) cosmology and that's clearly a universal feat, and the quincy king is related to him as he is his son so simple, and if the linchpin of existence wasn't holding him back, he could have directly destroyed and recreated the universes according to his will way more quickly.
Bleach has a Low Multiversal structure. And only prime soul king has that level of power, and maybe Yhwach with a chain reaction based destruction. The god tiers range from Star System, scaling from Senna who created a Star, to Galaxay, if you take Gremmy creating an actual galaxy instead of opening a portal.
Now I will show the real cosmology of bleach verse Okay, this isn’t exactly a debunk post, rather than discussing the universal and higher Ichigo metas. This is the latest version of Ichigo, the one who appeared in no breathes from hell, yet I will be using his TYBW version since it can be actually scaled. Q: What are Bleach canon materials? A: As following 1-Bleach manga & the non-filler parts from anime 2-Bleach TYBW anime 3-Bleach: No Breathes from Hell 4-Bleach 1st movie: Memories of Nobody 5-Bleach novels: Can’t Fear Your Own World, Spirits Are Forever With You, and We Do Knot Always Love Q: What about Hellverse? A: Non canon, and I know that “Kubo deliberately removed his name” But it fits nowhere in the timeline. First of all, we know that the movie takes place after Ichigo vs Ulquiorra battle, it was at that time when Kokuto saw Vasto Lorde Ichigo’s powers for him to destroy the Hell chains So, at that time, Yuzu was kidnapped from the world of the living, which makes no sense since Yuzu was in soul society. Also, Ichigo’s Hollow mask was like this Which he got during his fight against Yammy. After this fight, Ichigo headed to world of the living to defeat Aizen. So, the movie fits nowhere in the timeline. Now, onto actual scaling. We know that Soul Society has stars. And it has been called a universe. Also, Muken was said to be infinite. Yhwach killed the Soul king, who was the linchpin of the three worlds This would count for High Universe level feat. Let’s now present counters to this scaling. Basically, people are confusing Soul society, World of the living, and Hueco Mundo into the realms containing them, and saying that SS is a universe because there are stars in the sky is as dumb as saying that earth is a universe because there are stars in the sky. For the universe part, this is a famous mistranslation made by Viz This is the same way people got universal Sasuke meta through Orochimaru’s statement. As Bleach worlds are described as 世界, which means either world, universe, or society We have to take a look at Soul Society, as its the most featured one of the 3 worlds, and World of The Living is equal to it So, we know that Soul Society constitutes of Seireitei and Rukongai. It makes no sense for Seireitei to be a nucleus of a “universe”, but a nucleus of a “planet” makes much more sense. Also, we know that Seireitei is clearly finite. Rukongai districts are also finite, which clearly means that SS isn’t infinite. For Muken, I will explain why it isn’t really infinite. If we take the official translation, then it says “near infinite” However, we previously saw that the official translation isn’t always the most accurate It was also stated that Muken is so vast that “it deludes people into thinking it is infinite” And the Bleach wiki(though not the most reliable source) confirmed it The biggest problem with Muken is that the way it works makes it impossible for Muken to be infinite. We need to look at the definition of the word “infinite” without limits; extremely large or great: Muken was said to be completely sealed off, which means that it has boundaries/limits, so it isn’t really infinite. Also, we know that Muken is separated from the layers above it, which means there must be a limit separating them. We also know that Muken is a part of the Central Underground Jail, which is clearly not infinite as its bounded by Squad 1 barracks. We also know that Yamamoto’s Bankai can destroy the Soul Society. His Bankai bears the heat of sun itself. The heat of sun is incapable of doing shit to a universe, which clearly means that SS isn’t a universe. For why memories of nobody is canon, it was stated that Ichigo went to Kyogoku Kubo told us to watch the first movie, which is memories of nobody, to get more information of the Kyogoku. So, the movie is clearly canon to the story. For why this premise is important, it is because this movie clearly explains that SS and WoTL aren’t universes. In the dubbed version of memories of nobody, Urahara said this “You see, our universe has two worlds, the World of The Living, where we live, and the Soul Society” Of course, it cannot be “our universe has two universes”🗿🗿 Both worlds were drawn as finite worlds by Tessai, twice actually Another statement is this So, Hitsugaya was sent to check out the influx of spiritual wave in WoTL, then he was sent to Earth, which clearly explains that WoTL = Earth. The most interesting statement was when Hitsugaya described both WoTL and SS as “stars” Hitsugaya described them with the kanji 星, which means either star or any light-emitting or reflecting heavenly body except for sun and moon Since Soul Society isn’t a star, then it is clearly a heavenly body like a planet. Both SS and WoTL were seen as planets So, this movie completely explains that WoTL and SS aren’t infinite universes. Another much more interesting statement is this “When they pass on, their body turns into Reishi and is reclaimed by the soil of Soul Society” The definition of “soil” Hence, the presence of soil is a property to a planet, not to a universe, so as Soul Society has soil, then it is clearly a planet. Dimensionality This meta started from this statement. That the reason of Aizen being unable to sense Ichigo’s Reiatsu was because Ichigo was a higher dimensional being But there comes a problem, you know that Aizen was able to interact and damage the supposed higher dimensional Ichigo Some may say that monster Aizen is higher dimensional than butterfly Aizen and on the same dimension with Ichigo, but this isn’t true “I still don’t feel anything” The usage of the word “still” clearly means that it was always a true fact that he didn’t feel a thing throughout the entire fight, as this is the definition of the word “still” Continuing to happen or continuing to be done Yet, he was still able to damage him, hence Ichigo didn’t become higher dimensional, but Aizen used this dimensionality as an example to explain the difference between him and Ichigo. Another example is when NaNaNa, a normal 3D being, paralyzed supposed 4D Aizen And please don’t tell me Aizen let him do it, as he literally said he was rendered unable to move for 5 minutes, and it would have been longer if not for Bazz N hitting him Another much more interesting example is that you know that True Shikai Ichigo is equal to Dangai/Mugetsu Ichigo Who got off-paneled by Askin Hence, Askin should be on the same plane of existence with Ichigo Vollstandig Askin got donuted by Grimmjow Grimmjow is weaker than Barragan, who should be supposedly lower dimensional So, it clearly means that there is no dimensional difference, and Ichigo, Askin, Urahara, and Grimmjow are on the same plane of existence. Bonus: Speed scaling Some claim that Bleach characters have infinite speed based on Kyoraku dodging Lille’s X-axis First of all, we have to take a look at what qualifies as infinite speed. Lille’s X-axis would have been considered to have “infinite speed” if his bullets traveled infinite distance or any finite distance through zero time. The thing is that Lille basically fires nothing to travel through any distance On a much more interesting take, Kyoraku himself suffered from finite speed attack from Robert. He was pressured when V1 Lille started firing finite-speed bullets We also know that speed is based on Reiatsu. Conclusion: My scaling for Bleach AP: Lowball: Star Level Midball: Solar System Level Highball: Universe Level Speed: Lowball: FTL+ Highball: MFTL
@@kn1ght90 Can be scale to Complex via wanks. Just like Bleach cosmology. Higher dimensions, etc etc don't applicate to Bleach or DB (even when in DB is a vague statement about it).
@@legendaresn6983 Wich are in the same time line wich means a Low-2C structure. Destroying the space/time continuum of the Universe 7 vs doing that to the 12 universes keeps you in the same Low-2C tier, just one higher than other. At the end, they are not sepparate and different at all cuz they belong to the same Time Line.
@@chupapi630 wank? Lmfao bro dont try comparison fodder bleach verse with dbs. Dbs actually has feats and we got nothing to prove while you bleach fans struggle just to make people believe ur verse is uni 😭
Saying the bleach cosmology is a multiverse makes about as much sense as saying dragon ball has a multiverse. It's only a collection of a few universes and dimensions, not really much to call it a multiverse. If the world of the living is the same as ours than it's size would be about 90 billion light years in diameter, which would be the size of the other realms if they're all about the same size. Vs battle wiki is also not a reliable source, those clowns have been called out on multiple occasions for how poorly they measure characters and how bias they can be for and against certain characters.
Your actually right about the VS battle wiki but some of their information is reliable. Also what is the definition of a multiverse exactly? I thought it meant multiple universe's.
@@pacmiller7564 A lot of their information is not when it comes to certain characters. Their definition of universes and such things could be taken as truth but not everything there can be relied upon. A multiverse as we know it today would consist of infinite universes. While you could say any cosmology with multiple universes could count, these would be lesser multiverses and doesn't really encompass the full definition of what a multiverse is.
Thank you
I will now be using this Video to teach bleach haters that say that Bleach isnt Universal
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It's not all was split from one how can the ss be an alternate dimension to the world of the living if it was split from the primordial universe alternate dimension are space or space time construction that are completely closed if from each other meaning they just look a like buh buh are are composed if the same Time and space
@@samuelbepele8701You literally didnt prove anything but just made a bunch of baseless ranting. There is already canon statements explaining the Cosmology and the guy already have mentioned it. And Realms would literally be seperate. Thats how it works. All of what you said simply would upscales the Primordial Universe. Its the Soul King in the First Place who created the concept of Life and Death in the Verse. So he could have simply made them as such.
@@shonenkon2456Bro one correction. The Soul King creater the new Verse with his Raw Power,not Almighty. In the Japanese raws,It says that with Reio’s 全能の力 (omnipotent/almighty power) the universe was created. The kanji used for “almighty” to describe Reio’s power is 全能, the kanji used for the schrift “The Almighty” is 全知全能 (the furigana in that scan is “ji oorumaiti” aka The Almighty). They are not the same.
i remember being a naruto goon back in the good ol days but even back then it felt like i could make universal - MV arguments for bleach way easier than naruto
Imo most people put their dislike of the actual story of Bleach ahead of actually being objective which leads to so much downplay
@@pacmiller7564 honestly that’s just for every verse people will always be biased towards what they like ignoring facts cause another verse is stronger
Nigga if you can’t get Naruto to uni easy you just not a good scaler
I am pretty sure Kaguya makes the Naruto side of the pretty easy to prove. Bleach has to work backwards from the CFYOW novel.
@@onesmart229 nope Rukia mentioned them being in a Universe all the way back in the substitute shinigami arc. Naruto's quote Universal statements start in shippuden the war arc to be exact the CFYOW light novels only add on and solidified Yhwach and the Soul king as Universal atleast
3:08 That's actually an argument that I usually make. Because **they** have no way of proving that the celestial bodies in Soul Society are made of kishi (physical matter), so it's nice to see somebody else who came to the same conclusion.
Kishi is regular matter. Reishi is spiritual matter.
@@DevonIsMad Thank you for pointing that out. I fixed it.
@@Grognack np
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Best cosmology vid I've seen. Good work.
Leaving aside all the evidence that obviously proves that garganta is not a vacuum, void much less outer space. The strongest point that proves that garganta is not a void but a stream of scrambled reishi and that therefore the realms cannot be "interconnected planets" is the simple fact that kenpachi was literally injured and affected when exposed to actual outer space (the one that gremmy CREATED), while characters like orihime, urahara, ichigo, uryu, chad have been able to travel through garganta without any problem in the VERY FIRST ARC.
So the only real way to prove that garganta is a "void" is to scale base ichigo, base orihime, base chad and base uryu at the beginning of soul society arc at very least 10 times above kenpachi shikai 😂
100% Agree. I always roll my eyes when people make the argument that the realms are planets, and that the Garganta is outer space. It does not make any sense. 🙄🤦♂
that was "Senkaimon" not garganta
@@no1hasmyburgerh6057 In the first arc was dangai and in the second arc was the actual garganta, my bad.
@@nanana-og6bb yeah
Great video i’m glad my friend showed me this channel
In conclusion, ichigo is confirmed to be universal in power
yes multiversal actually
senjumaru bankai can shake 3 universal size realm! ichigo HOS is above that.
Aliens bitting their nails everytime the universe is going to end because of one planet:
Great explanation as always
Thanks for making this Video cause Naruto and DragonBall fans are always downplaying the Bleach Cosmology
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@@no1hasmyburgerh6057majority of dragon ball fans know about bleach cosmolgy and know bleach is universal what are you on
@@doomsburges2751 Nope ive seen DB bitches downplay so Bleach doesnt win or atleast stand a chance
@@doomsburges2751 Seriously what is the 1 thing they always spam " Bleach is planetary"
@@no1hasmyburgerh6057 well cause they listen to down players who don't know anything about bleach cosmolgy plus bleach cosmolgy is hard to understand sometimes but only a few dragon ball fans say bleach is plantery I think it because since the dimension are shaped like planets it means there plantery
This video makes way more sense than hundreds of pages of forums... Thanks mate... Always doubted about how the bleach verse was vast, now that it's clear, I made up my mind on it, Kubo is a genius of shonen nekketsu.
Finally a making sense Cosmology of bleach with pure facts no hyperbole
Yes thank you bro that was a great video
Greatest Bleach Cosmology vid ever but shoutout to others like Crafty Scales and idk who else who paved the way fr
Great analysis welcome back also.
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Oh nice I didn't know many other people talked about this👏 sick asf
Good vid, fw the editing
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Since soul society contains muken, is it also possible that the world of the living has its own “muken”, since they’re mirrors?
I was waiting for this.
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Man u spoke abt facts and u showed us true cosmology man u are underrated
Absolute fax
A hyperspace is a 5d construct
it can be doesn´t have to though
W video
Bro just pointed out a bunch of points that make them universes but i bet some naruto fans will still disagree
Bro when will you upload vid about kogyoku or valley of scream whatever you want to call
Great video
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So, are there soul reapers and hollows from other planets? Do aliens exist? Do they govern and regulate the circulation of souls in other planets?
It's a multiverse so technically yes.
Probably not, since a single person from the original earth created the current worlds. No 100% can be made for now, however they wouldn't govern their own circulation even if some of them managed to become soul reapers, maybe that's how different gods are possible?
@@MasterNabbernope it's not unlike naruto or dragon ball which actually show you that i mean in naruto or dragon it's pratical so there's no multiverse or anything like that in the bleach verse
So ishin kurosaki is 4d cuz he was able to hold dangai which was stated to be hyperspace
That would be more of a 4d attack potency argument since that wouldn't prove that Isshin is 4d just that he can interact with it.
yes
Bro we’re did kon kicking the pebble come from
“…in (great) detail” not “..in grave detail.”
Bpeach is 6d
So what the quincy king wanted to destroy was 3 universes, not 3 planet sized dimensions like we see in some forums ?
Yes exactly
@@shonenkon2456 right thanks, that's all I needed to know from this video. Awesome pal.
@@shonenkon2456 even if there are stars in it and by knowing that how astrology works in bleach (with the justified pages of bleach manga of orihime and ichigo reading about astrology) some still don't think that the quincy king wanted to destroy 3 universes... I think that the only answer to this is that if someone wants to understand something, he understands it, but if he doesn't, he just rejects it, simple as that.
he also wanted to recreate the concept of life and death and merge all of the realms and concept manipulation scales wayy higher than universal or even multiversal for that matter its interesting to look into but alot of people miss that point
@@chrisboricua1911 yeah and yet there's still people who believes that bleach ain't at least universal and that frieza namek saga first form could solo bleach XD. And there's some people who say that him destroying the linchpin of existence isn't a feat, right, but I think that the linchpin of existence is kind of a gateway to start destroying and recreating the realms/universes he wanted to, cuz I think that the quincy king's power works kind of like a plane's reactors, they are very powerful, they can make fly hundreds of tons of metal at 800 - 900 - 1000 km/h, but yet they need some space and time to show their full power cuz their acceleration is the thing that holds them back to make directly make the plane fly from the airport, and in bleach, I think that the linchpin just slowed the process of the quincy king's plan, and let's not forget that it's his father the soul king who separated with his power at his prime the universes that contributed to the bleach "known" (I say known cuz kubo didn't reveal all yet) cosmology and that's clearly a universal feat, and the quincy king is related to him as he is his son so simple, and if the linchpin of existence wasn't holding him back, he could have directly destroyed and recreated the universes according to his will way more quickly.
Bleach has a Low Multiversal structure. And only prime soul king has that level of power, and maybe Yhwach with a chain reaction based destruction. The god tiers range from Star System, scaling from Senna who created a Star, to Galaxay, if you take Gremmy creating an actual galaxy instead of opening a portal.
In novel it is stated he created galaxy
@@Adonis766 Even more than that, it said he had the ability to "instantaneously create outer space." - Bleach CFYOW volume 2, page 336.
@@Grognack ohh okk thanks for the info☝🏻
@@Adonis766 No problem.
Ichigo should scale to yhwach and as shown in kenpachi vs ichigo. Reiatsu = durability and aizen should scale to the both of them
Bleach is low multi-multi at best as of now
Yes
Dude are you sick? your voice sounds different like it's muffled in your throat but good video nevertheless.
Now I will show the real cosmology of bleach verse
Okay, this isn’t exactly a debunk post, rather than discussing the universal and higher Ichigo metas.
This is the latest version of Ichigo, the one who appeared in no breathes from hell, yet I will be using his TYBW version since it can be actually scaled.
Q: What are Bleach canon materials?
A: As following
1-Bleach manga & the non-filler parts from anime
2-Bleach TYBW anime
3-Bleach: No Breathes from Hell
4-Bleach 1st movie: Memories of Nobody
5-Bleach novels: Can’t Fear Your Own World, Spirits Are Forever With You, and We Do Knot Always Love
Q: What about Hellverse?
A: Non canon, and I know that “Kubo deliberately removed his name”
But it fits nowhere in the timeline.
First of all, we know that the movie takes place after Ichigo vs Ulquiorra battle, it was at that time when Kokuto saw Vasto Lorde Ichigo’s powers for him to destroy the Hell chains
So, at that time, Yuzu was kidnapped from the world of the living, which makes no sense since Yuzu was in soul society.
Also, Ichigo’s Hollow mask was like this
Which he got during his fight against Yammy.
After this fight, Ichigo headed to world of the living to defeat Aizen.
So, the movie fits nowhere in the timeline.
Now, onto actual scaling.
We know that Soul Society has stars.
And it has been called a universe.
Also, Muken was said to be infinite.
Yhwach killed the Soul king, who was the linchpin of the three worlds
This would count for High Universe level feat.
Let’s now present counters to this scaling.
Basically, people are confusing Soul society, World of the living, and Hueco Mundo into the realms containing them, and saying that SS is a universe because there are stars in the sky is as dumb as saying that earth is a universe because there are stars in the sky.
For the universe part, this is a famous mistranslation made by Viz
This is the same way people got universal Sasuke meta through Orochimaru’s statement.
As Bleach worlds are described as 世界, which means either world, universe, or society
We have to take a look at Soul Society, as its the most featured one of the 3 worlds, and World of The Living is equal to it
So, we know that Soul Society constitutes of Seireitei and Rukongai.
It makes no sense for Seireitei to be a nucleus of a “universe”, but a nucleus of a “planet” makes much more sense.
Also, we know that Seireitei is clearly finite.
Rukongai districts are also finite, which clearly means that SS isn’t infinite.
For Muken, I will explain why it isn’t really infinite.
If we take the official translation, then it says “near infinite”
However, we previously saw that the official translation isn’t always the most accurate
It was also stated that Muken is so vast that “it deludes people into thinking it is infinite”
And the Bleach wiki(though not the most reliable source) confirmed it
The biggest problem with Muken is that the way it works makes it impossible for Muken to be infinite.
We need to look at the definition of the word “infinite”
without limits; extremely large or great:
Muken was said to be completely sealed off, which means that it has boundaries/limits, so it isn’t really infinite.
Also, we know that Muken is separated from the layers above it, which means there must be a limit separating them.
We also know that Muken is a part of the Central Underground Jail, which is clearly not infinite as its bounded by Squad 1 barracks.
We also know that Yamamoto’s Bankai can destroy the Soul Society.
His Bankai bears the heat of sun itself.
The heat of sun is incapable of doing shit to a universe, which clearly means that SS isn’t a universe.
For why memories of nobody is canon, it was stated that Ichigo went to Kyogoku
Kubo told us to watch the first movie, which is memories of nobody, to get more information of the Kyogoku.
So, the movie is clearly canon to the story.
For why this premise is important, it is because this movie clearly explains that SS and WoTL aren’t universes.
In the dubbed version of memories of nobody, Urahara said this
“You see, our universe has two worlds, the World of The Living, where we live, and the Soul Society”
Of course, it cannot be “our universe has two universes”🗿🗿
Both worlds were drawn as finite worlds by Tessai, twice actually
Another statement is this
So, Hitsugaya was sent to check out the influx of spiritual wave in WoTL, then he was sent to Earth, which clearly explains that WoTL = Earth.
The most interesting statement was when Hitsugaya described both WoTL and SS as “stars”
Hitsugaya described them with the kanji 星, which means either star or any light-emitting or reflecting heavenly body except for sun and moon
Since Soul Society isn’t a star, then it is clearly a heavenly body like a planet.
Both SS and WoTL were seen as planets
So, this movie completely explains that WoTL and SS aren’t infinite universes.
Another much more interesting statement is this
“When they pass on, their body turns into Reishi and is reclaimed by the soil of Soul Society”
The definition of “soil”
Hence, the presence of soil is a property to a planet, not to a universe, so as Soul Society has soil, then it is clearly a planet.
Dimensionality
This meta started from this statement.
That the reason of Aizen being unable to sense Ichigo’s Reiatsu was because Ichigo was a higher dimensional being
But there comes a problem, you know that Aizen was able to interact and damage the supposed higher dimensional Ichigo
Some may say that monster Aizen is higher dimensional than butterfly Aizen and on the same dimension with Ichigo, but this isn’t true
“I still don’t feel anything”
The usage of the word “still” clearly means that it was always a true fact that he didn’t feel a thing throughout the entire fight, as this is the definition of the word “still”
Continuing to happen or continuing to be done
Yet, he was still able to damage him, hence Ichigo didn’t become higher dimensional, but Aizen used this dimensionality as an example to explain the difference between him and Ichigo.
Another example is when NaNaNa, a normal 3D being, paralyzed supposed 4D Aizen
And please don’t tell me Aizen let him do it, as he literally said he was rendered unable to move for 5 minutes, and it would have been longer if not for Bazz N hitting him
Another much more interesting example is that you know that True Shikai Ichigo is equal to Dangai/Mugetsu Ichigo
Who got off-paneled by Askin
Hence, Askin should be on the same plane of existence with Ichigo
Vollstandig Askin got donuted by Grimmjow
Grimmjow is weaker than Barragan, who should be supposedly lower dimensional
So, it clearly means that there is no dimensional difference, and Ichigo, Askin, Urahara, and Grimmjow are on the same plane of existence.
Bonus: Speed scaling
Some claim that Bleach characters have infinite speed based on Kyoraku dodging Lille’s X-axis
First of all, we have to take a look at what qualifies as infinite speed.
Lille’s X-axis would have been considered to have “infinite speed” if his bullets traveled infinite distance or any finite distance through zero time.
The thing is that Lille basically fires nothing to travel through any distance
On a much more interesting take, Kyoraku himself suffered from finite speed attack from Robert.
He was pressured when V1 Lille started firing finite-speed bullets
We also know that speed is based on Reiatsu.
Conclusion: My scaling for Bleach
AP:
Lowball: Star Level
Midball: Solar System Level
Highball: Universe Level
Speed:
Lowball: FTL+
Highball: MFTL
Wasted your time typing this garbage
@@shonenkon2456 really bro just say that truth hurts
@@DemonFF927 isn't really the truth just your theory on the bleach cosmology
@@IchigoK173 yes it is truth and it is not a theory it is real
@@DemonFF927 your opinion bro 🤷
If I'm not wrong, the cosmology is Universal+. Like DBS cosmology, each Time Line is a Universal+ structure, not a multiversal one.
Each world is universal, however there are multible worlds inside the garganta in bleach and multible worlds in Zeno's Domain in DBS
Dbs cosmology can be scaled to complex multi to higher lmao
@@kn1ght90 Can be scale to Complex via wanks.
Just like Bleach cosmology. Higher dimensions, etc etc don't applicate to Bleach or DB (even when in DB is a vague statement about it).
@@legendaresn6983 Wich are in the same time line wich means a Low-2C structure.
Destroying the space/time continuum of the Universe 7 vs doing that to the 12 universes keeps you in the same Low-2C tier, just one higher than other. At the end, they are not sepparate and different at all cuz they belong to the same Time Line.
@@chupapi630 wank? Lmfao bro dont try comparison fodder bleach verse with dbs. Dbs actually has feats and we got nothing to prove while you bleach fans struggle just to make people believe ur verse is uni 😭
Hell?
Yo bro do u know which episode it is where the galaxies were shown in the world of the living
fuckin thnk u , Dragon Ball really wanted to say SS is planet but gremmy states outerspace exist ,fax
Hey man great vid, got a discord?
Preciate it. Yea it’s konsdreams#1972
@@shonenkon2456 thxs man, I just sent
@@shonenkon2456who do u think wins goku or ichigo ?
@@Amaterasu77306goku slams low-mid diff
Saying the bleach cosmology is a multiverse makes about as much sense as saying dragon ball has a multiverse. It's only a collection of a few universes and dimensions, not really much to call it a multiverse. If the world of the living is the same as ours than it's size would be about 90 billion light years in diameter, which would be the size of the other realms if they're all about the same size. Vs battle wiki is also not a reliable source, those clowns have been called out on multiple occasions for how poorly they measure characters and how bias they can be for and against certain characters.
A multiverse is literally a collection of multiple universes lol
Your actually right about the VS battle wiki but some of their information is reliable. Also what is the definition of a multiverse exactly? I thought it meant multiple universe's.
@@shonenkon2456 When one says multiverse, one thinks of infinite universes. There are hardly infinite universes in bleach.
@@pacmiller7564 A lot of their information is not when it comes to certain characters. Their definition of universes and such things could be taken as truth but not everything there can be relied upon. A multiverse as we know it today would consist of infinite universes. While you could say any cosmology with multiple universes could count, these would be lesser multiverses and doesn't really encompass the full definition of what a multiverse is.
@@Auron1Roxas2 So then what your saying is the Bleachverse is low multiversal?
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