The Karate Kid Part II: Daniel vs. Chozen
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Chozen (Yuji Okumoto) threatens Kumiko (Tamlyn Tomita) with a knife under her throat. He wants Daniel (Ralph Macchio) to fight him.
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After winning the championship, Daniel (Ralph Macchio) continues his training with his mentor. When Mr. Miyagi (Pat Morita) receives the news that his father is dying he decides to go back to Japan, and Daniel (Ralph Macchio) follows him there.
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Who would have thought that 40 years later these guys would be singing eye of a Tiger with Johnny Lawrence in a limo driven by Mike Barnes.
Only talented screen writers
Was a great scene too
40 years later, Chozen will get in another near fight to the death, but this time, he actually understands honor.
Terrific
haha that's certainly like something out of a crazy dream for sure
It’s crazy how Chozen goes from a big time psychopath in Karate Kid to a goofy and wise sensei in Cobra Kai.
As they say, some people grow up
People who chose to change can go a long way.
What was he, like 19 or 21 in 1986? A lot can happen in 34 years. Most people who are in their 50s now are not the same person they were in their early 20s.
Except for people like Kreese....
@@mitchellcohen3444 well...Kreese was like 39-40 years old in Karate Kid? Once you get to that age, you pretty much are who you are for the rest of your life and not much is going to change your mind. Much different mindset than when you were 19-21 years old like Chozen was.
Miyagi: You could've killed him, couldn't you?
Daniel: Yes Mr. Miyagi.
Miyagi: Why didn't you then?
Daniel: Because Mr. Miyagi, he'll help me take down Cobra Kai in S5.
Lmaoo
Spoiler....
@@idkwhatnametoput5648 it’s not really a spoiler it’s kinda obvious if you watched the last scene of season 4
@@ArmahShiancoe THAT IS A SPOILER 💀💀💀
@@ninsebas3676 they literally said that chosen would help him in the end of season 4
“This not tournament Daniel-San, this for real”. One of my very favourite quotes from the K.Kid trilogy!
Many years ago, after my little brother and I first saw this movie, he would go around saying that quote constantly... I can't ever hear it now without hearing him do it.
Daniel’s fight with Chozen was epic.His fight with Barnes was lame .They just made him look so weak in KK3 even after defeating Chozen .Made no sense
@@eviljoker303 in my head this is karate kid 3
Which was compromised when Karate Kid 3 came about
@@Noobhunter2012 It makes no sense because Terry Silver is not in KK2.
it's a good thing Daniel-san learned the ancient japanese technique of beating someone like they owe you money
Underrated!
Lmao, the old legendary technique of throwing punches from left then right alternately. Yeah very powerfull and unbeatable
Technically, Choz did for a few seconds before Dan took it back with a nutshot deposit.
Then there's all the villagers he scammed XD
Ey, that's some Dragon of Dojima's mid range heat move
Well Chozen DID scam a whole village 😂
I would pay 10,000 dollars to watch Mr Miyagi explain to Daniel's mom that her son was killed in a karate death match.
Wtf lol, after your comment I want to see that now.
@@papa-tello8403
Mother of Daniel:What happened to my son?
Miyagi: He's dead.
Mother of Daniel: WHAT???
Miyagi: Hai!
OK this comment got me lol
While he watched and played a musical instrument.
LMFAO!!!!
Very nice of them to speak entirely in English for Daniel's benefit. The Japanese (Okinawans) are so polite.
For real man I always wondered why everyone doesn’t speak Japanese in their own land especially when Daniel isn’t around just speak Japanese. And they all speak perfect English better English than non English speaking people in America
@Chris Hansen With Dateline NBC I’m having MORTAL KOMBAT VIBES!.
@Chris Hansen With Dateline NBC I like how the people of Okinawa are doing ooh’s and aah’s while Daniel and Chozen are fighting each other.
Fun fact: this wasn’t actually filmed in Okinawa this was filmed in Hawaii in cobra Kai Daniel visits the actual Okinawa
Miguel Rodriguez I love mortak combat but I can't play it anymore : (
Daniel: “Live or die, man?”
Chozen: “Live.”
Daniel: “WRONG.” [chops neck]
"During the theatrical release of _Karate Kid 2_ in 1986, after Daniel's (Ralph Macchio) victory over Chozen (Yuji Okumoto) during a battle to the death, Daniel asks Chozen "Live or die, man?" Before Yuji could say his next line in the script ("Die"), Macchio immediately grabbed Yuji's head and viciously twisted, snapping his neck. Yuji was rushed off set where he was pronounced dead due to a severed brainstem. The scene was included in the theatrical release, being cited by Director John G Avildsen as "The best damn method acting I've ever seen.""
"When questioned about his actions, Macchio said, "Karate works in mysterious ways" and then proceeded to hit the interviewer with a series of martial arts blows, sending them to the hospital. Ralph declined any further interviews."
Real funny yo I am 8 years old
DANIEL WINS!
FATALITY!
@@Sykroid What the ell is that?
Lol!
“If an enemy insists on war, then you take away their ability to wage it.”
Best line ever in Cobra Kai hands down
Johnny lawrence got his redemption and chozen got his
Did Sun of the Zoo say that.
@@ej830 One better: Stop drinking the butter!
I am glad Chozen and Johnny redeemed themselves and they are friends with Daniel. Kumiko is still gorgeous as ever. I had a girlfriend like Kumiko but she is Korean. How we met is she was a stripper and I know not to get emotionally involved with one but this girl was and I am saying was because we lost touch after breaking up after two years together yet I still love her and will always. Anyway this girl her stage name was Asia but her real name was Mandy and she was a sweet girl and better respected than her fellow dancers. I am friends with her bro and he told me she is still single but she's lost. I pray she finds her way and I told her bro to tell her to call me when she has the chance and that I still love her.
Mr Miyagi was like, fk...he's going to get killed...I better use the drum.
hahahaha 😂😂😂
Funny shit...
3:40 plan b.
@@nathancruz9172 hahahahahaha!!!
😂🤣😅
Daniel's mother: how was your trip?
Daniel: It was great, I got into a death match while Mr Miyagi watched.
Daniel's mother: WHHHAAATTTTTT
Daniel’s mother: That’s nice dear..
Single mother, phffff..!!!she did not care about him. She wanted a "son-husband...." Look at the beginning of the KK1, she cared only about her job, since she uprooted his life in NJ and had him say bye to his friends...to do whatever she wanted...move into some crummy apartment and basically ordered him to take off the sun glasses to see his "baby-browns.." Daniel even says. "Why can't we just go home. I want to go home.." Of course he got to grow up in SoCal, which at that time would have been cool. Mr. Miyagi was his savior basically...helped him and even prevented him from taking a beating from Johnny and CO, the fence..
Miyagi-San took him under his wing, which is way more than vast majority of boys raised in single moms house get. But still this was the best of the Daniel-San movies...It is a "feel-good"movie of that era.
How was he so easily defeated in Karate Kid III when he had no rules in Karate Kid II? He should have won hands down, though I would have stayed in Japan.
@Crus Harold Maybe, but Chozen played with Daniel too but lost. Seems Daniel still didn't have any confidence in himself yet.
@Crus Harold Good point, though I would have thought he would have kept that confidence that he acquired during that fight and brought it back to the US, something that Kreese, Silver and Barnes didn't have since they were all bullies. You brought up a good point. Thank you for that. Take care and stay happy and well.
I love how it's visually shown to us that Chozen is more powerful than Johnny with when Daniel tries to use the Crane Kick against Chozen but fails.
Yeah, probably because he was also taught the crane kick and could easily see the stance
In cobra kai chozen said that he already knew that kick 😅😅
To be fair, they were both taught that kick so Chozen knew the kick too well.
Plus Daniel was doing it in jeans
I would have liked to have seen some Chozen vs Johnny in Cobra Kai. 🤷🏼♂️
I fell in love with Kumiko...not because she was pretty, or danced...but because she legit tried to strangle that dude.
equal rights, and lefts
Simp
@@nabilzen424 Virgin
She stood by her man.
@@nabilzen424 an incel calling someone else a simp, this is to good to be true
Well he clearly wasn’t the chozen one.
2:47 🦂: get over here! 👈🏻
Lol great pun!
Harry potter was the chosen one
Amazing lol
Nice one bro
Who’s here after Chozen honks his nose in the new season of Cobra Kai? 😂
Me xd
Me😂
I cants wait for season 4 :((
@@TrippySykes nah man u can wait till October
Same
Who would have thought these two-dimensional, 80's characters would eventually be resurrected, fleshed out, given backstories, families, history, friendships and feuds some 30 years later in a show that has become just about the best thing on TV?
It is insanely amazing how every single season of Cobra Koi managed to be at least 3x better than each of the original movies. Even the first.
@@filbencs5098 especially kk3 i would the cobra Kai creators to do a rewrite of that movie
Nobody thought so. And yet Cobra Kai continues to surprise us with each season. Who didn't lose their mind when Chozen showed up at the end of S4?
Good but also Arcane is the best show of the last 5 years
@@hellion8522 nope daredevil
"No bridge."
Lol God forbid they fall into three feet of water.
No, so people can't interfere... it like a 7 foot drop
Hahaha
@@formyownedification3879 Look at 1:33. That's like 3 feet down to the water.
If you were paying attention, you would have noticed all the floating bags on the water. Totally could have gotten a paper cut if he fell the wrong way. Paper cuts can be traumatic.
@@chillionaire7114 Very true. And that is still water, so the paper cut could get infected. Could end up losing the finger altogether.
Daniel apologizes to Chozen even though he LITERALLY did nothing wrong. What a nice kid.
Chozen felt dishonor by losing to Daniel. He wants Revenge against Daniel for what Daniel did.
And they have the NERVE to say he was the villain in Part 1
@@walt8899 he was the villain and the true bully. Such a stuck up douche.
@@eldavid9254 You do realize Johnny was the definition of a stuck up rich kid. Him and all of his friends at the time, also Daniel wasn’t that wealthy at the time.
@@CarlosSuperCute Not anymore, have you seen Cobra Kai? He regrets being so mean to Daniel
*35 years later*
"I have waited a long time for this"
“Chozen.No!”
"Honk"
“Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah”
“You should have seen the look on your face” 😂
“Honk”
Good, you're having fun at my expense!!!
Just remember, we would’ve never seen how Chozen had his redemption story or Daniel be able to save himself against Kreese if Miguel’s grandma didn’t get diarrhea
i wonder if the tres leches cake had anything to do with it
@@Wafflesaurus most definitely
😂😂😂
I dont get it.
@@davids.3584 Probably a Cobra Kai reference.
I like how Chozen redeems himself and becomes a better man.
Yes Agree also hope to see him again helping Miyagi-Do & Eagle-Fang out also helping Robby Redeem himself.
@John Ritcher does that mean he's the CHOSEN one lol! was that bad ? alright yes i 'll work on new material ! stay tuned .
@@samuelsalazar1976 He'd be perfect to help out Robby
@@JLOCC23424 Agree 🙏🏻💯 🌳 Robby might go to Japan 🇯🇵 start learning techniques & guidance hope in-the-end he’ll trust Johnny & Daniel again with his honor also restored.
@@samuelsalazar1976 Ikr so damn true I just hope that Robby and Johnny will finally work things out too
Director : How can we do this fight?
Choregrapher : They can just fall to the floor for no reason and then Daniel can win by flailing his arms left and right.
Director : Perfect.
this is the dumbest thing i ever see
Lol I think he rlly said that
The power of Miyagi - ryu!
my question after part 2 was this, after this fight, was he so scared of Barnes?
@@GisherJohn24 I guess it was because like Terry Silver said "I love it when he pounds him"
Daniel San trying to pull the same crane kick crap doesn't he know his opponent saw the first karate kid at cineworld with his boyfriend
wait chozen's gay?
@@kavinsnflstuff5749 no he not gay he's just being sarcastic and stupid
oh ok
Daniel is like rocky balboa , he always makes a comeback in the end 👉👌
@@Pray-4-Me Yes he does thanks to miyagi 👍👍
And now, 34 years after, Chozen is the highlight of Cobra Kai 5th season. Amazing movie, amazing series!!
This is probably among the few franchises that was faithfully respected enough to be reintroduced into a evolving and enjoyable show for everyone currently.
CHOZEN me encantó en la temporada 5
Chosen and barnes would be kinda good friends if he didn't attack him in the furniture store
So Chozen has finally defeated Daniel-san by upstaging him?
Check out Chozen's hilarious punch at 2:19. Johnny would have mopped the floor with this dude. He was much faster.
Yep, I'm here cause of the new Cobra Kai trailer. Chozen is back!
NO SPOILERS OH MT GOSH
Me too
Are you sure about that
@@jaisenweaver7938 Genius.
Nice
Chozen wasn’t no punk though, he said “DIE!” Lol he was ready to accept his fate
Fr on some Japanese shit
thats why he would beat the shit out of mike barnes in a street fight
I’d like to see a fight between Barns and Chozen, Chozen would mess Barns up
That was the most Japanese shit ever. My mans was ready to die rather than face embarrassment. 🤕
@@SatansGreatestSoldier just watch the duel in Sanjuro bro
35 years later, Chozen saved Daniel's life by giving him the secrets of Miyagi-Do Karate.
Saved Johnny too even though they never met, Daniel almost killed Kreese, Johnny even nodded for him to do it
@@THERANDOMMAN91 yep
it isnt called miyagi do to them, its Goju Ryu
Of all of Daniel’s adversaries and fights ,I think Chozen was the most dangerous since it was a real fight to the death ,not for points or a tournament.What I didn’t like about Karate Kid III was how weak and scared they made Daniel look even after beating Chozen .His fight with Barnes was absolutely disappointing because he kept running away from Barnes in the ring but never backed down from Chozen .(Who I thought was more tougher and dangerous than Barnes )
Ikr
In Karate Kid III Daniel was mentally unsound in his tournament fight with Barnes. Terry Silver had basically got in his head and began to turn him into someone he wasn't. When Daniel realized this, he didn't want to fight anymore as his head was filled with fear and self-doubt. Add Barnes being a vicious dick and relentlessly taunt and berate him during their match, that's a recipe for giving up.
What makes Daniel look really weak was the writers having the new rule where the defending champion has a provisional spot in the final. Daniel got to sit his ass on the sidelines the entire tournament while Barnes had to fight through the competition.
I actually liked how both the actors played it up as being exhausted/tired, even very early on. They're kids/young adults. Real fists/kicks hurt when you're able to land em. It's a reason a lot of MMA fights that turn into a boxing match can go quick, because their gloves are far less padding than boxing which can only use punches. Today some of the fight scenes in movies/TV shows are RIDICULOUSLY long and overdone.
Daniel didn't have Silver to fuck with his head in this movie. Daniel still had some composure left about himself while fighting Chozen; so he was able to fight a little braver. Unlike when he was scared against Barnes.
However! I really thought Daniel was gonna die & that there wasn't gonna be a Karate Kid 3 after this movie, when I was young.
Barnes was stronger than Chozen, that’s how he was clearly portrayed so I don’t know why people keep making weird excuses for Daniel, Barnes was way more powerful than him even after he beat Chozen
So the ancient Japanese's wisdom of the drum is basically just punch him in the face over and over until u win?
It's really cool move if you use it right. If you watch movie, earlier Mr Miyagi trained Daniel how to use it to evade the dropping hook. Realistically you can use it to evade and attack at same time.
@R F, You'd really have to watch that part to understand. But the scene is Daniel standing on a Pillar in the harbor and an anchor shaped hook is swinging down towards him. He has to sidestep, without falling off the pillar, he did it once but was lucky to only rip his shirt. he asked if there was a counterpunch that could be used, Miyagi said "Ask drum". It's in this scene he finally understands the technique, by asking the drum
The same principle as "shoot it till it dies"
Chozen used the Ronda Rousey defence this time. Block every punch with your face
Yes is it that hard to understand jeez
Chozen’s arc was one of the best in cobra Kai series he went from being an arrogant, mad, psychopath to one of the most wise sensei in the Cobra Kai series!
Chozen's episode in Season III remains the absolute best one so far for me.
Basically this is what happens to most of the characters in Cobra Kai. This is the main reason of his popularity right now. There are not 2 dimensioni characters. Some of them are pretty tipical and clichè, but they change in any time and in no time. You can expect a victim become a bully, and a bully become a hero.
Example: in Season 1 we see LaRusso As a responsible family man and Lawrence As a middle age drunk lunatic. In season 5 It's the other way around(only in episode 5 though)
Failure is the greatest teacher.
30 years later he taught Daniel a secret technique.
True. They buried the hatchet after
@@kovelids3 the fight between Daniel and Chozen is much more choreographed than the fight between Daniel and Johnny,and Daniel and Mike.
If an enemy insists on war then u have the ability to wage it
Yep: if a enemy insist on war u talk their ability to fight!!
@@deemaynati8377 Wrong. "If an enemy insists on war, then you take their ability to wage it".
Everyone be talking about Chozen, but I gotta give it up for Kumiko. She got in there without hesitation, probably knowing she wouldn't be able to do much, but she still went after him and bought Daniel a few seconds so he wouldn't fall over. She got KOed for it, but what a woman. She took action where most would just freeze up.
Kumiko is a ride or die woman.
Exactly!
I love Amanda but Kumiko is the GOAT for sure
Yeah Daniel fucked that one up big time. Like his current wife would ever gonna jump in the line of fire like that.
@@miked2075 Imagine an alternate timeline where Daniel stayed back with her instead of going back to America.
“For person with no forgiveness in heart, living even worse punishment than death”
Daniel gave Chozen the worst punishment.
I didn't even stop to think that Mr.Miyagi's quote applied in this situation! Wow the foreshadowing is real
@@ej830 don’t feel bad...I thought of it a day or two before posting it...😛
He found inner peace with that tho.
So ur saying Daniel-san is not forgiving.
@@Haassan1 "For person with no forgiveness IN HEART, living is worse than death". Daniel-san DID forgive. But Chozen did not, and now he must live with himself, knowing he has disgraced himself in everyone's eyes. Chozen himself has made living a punishment.
R.I.P Noriyuki "Pat" Morita (Mr Miyagi) 1932 - 2005
Miyagi: this is real life.
Me: NO MERCY
Yeah
Me if I was around in the area in the first place - wouldn't intervene - would just let chozen make his own decisions and whatever else that leads to so be it as
Well : @ least he would be likely getting locked up behind bars in prison for many decades maybe even the rest of his own life
The Drum: Strike first, Daniel San. Strike hard, Daniel San. No mercy, Daniel San!
Strike first, strike hard, NO MERCY!!!!
You really gotta admire Daniel's bravery the man was pretty much going up against death and no one could help him yet he didn't cower he kept fighting and eventually won
Yea the movie would kind of suck if Daniel just gave up
tf happened to that bravery in karate kid 3 lol
@@SonGoku-nv5dl Terry silver happened
@@captainhyrule9741 💀💀💀
When Kumiko translates a letter Mr. Miyagi wrote in Cobra Kai he writes that Daniel has a "strong chi".
Good thing daniel didn't killed him, otherwise he wouldn't learn miyagi's secrets
If you bring good into the world, good comes back to you somehow!
He would’ve been killed by kreese if he killed Chozen
@Diego aros That's true and Daniel learned that nose honking when Mr. Miyagi refused to kill John Kreese. Plus, Chozen became Daniel's friend on Cobra Kai and now that Mr. Miyagi died (both the character and the actor), Chozen could be considered as the new Mr. Miyagi. Also, if Chozen and Kumiko chose to move out of Okinawa to the state of California where Daniel lives, maybe Daniel can give them a great car on a great discount since he's the owner as an Auto Detailer and he can tell Kumiko of job openings in dance schools in California and maybe he can help Chozen start his business as a karate instructor.
@@dg5450 no
I know I’m late but if he didn’t learn secret, kreese would killed him in cobra kai season 3 last episode.
This should have been part 3. The current part 3 was a step down. Tournament, fight to death, back to tournament.
Exactly!!!
I agree
@Thanos the Farmer so you only watch part one and two?
Thought this for years
A step down !? MF Terry Silver is in part III I'd say is a MF step UP
1986: Fight to death in Okinawa...Larusso vs Toguchi
2019: Fight to death at west valley high school...Cobra Kai vs Miyagi Do
Fr tho 😂
2:48 I can’t wait to see cobra Kai season 3 on January 8th.
@@quick_will5170 2:47 get over here! 👈🏻
So basically
Season 1 = The Karate Kid
Season 2 = The Karate Kid II
Season 3 = The Karate Kid III
@@HabibHasan110 the have a fourth coming too
Really looking forward to when Daniel tells Johnny about this story and he says something like "whoa that's pretty bad ass. You're not as much of a loser as I thought."
Johnny (clearly lying): I fought someone like that too, he was worse and not a pussy like him
Johnny will probably not buy the story unless He hears it from someone else meaning Chozen
Johnny will definitely respect Daniel the moment he meets Chozen and Chozen tells him this
“I fought him to the death.”
“Oh really? What are you, a ghost?”
@@CinemageddonReviews Haha yeah, didn't call Chozen telling the story.
Call me Crazy, but I still think KKII was the best of all three films...
erm i cant agree with that but i get it
Nah KK1 was too good
Hello crazy.
Karate kid part 2 made the most out The Daniel years
I think kk1 and kk2 is the best than kk3
3:36 "Careful with that! That drum saved my life once"
~Daniel, Cobra Kai Season 2
Is it me or is chozen wearing scorpions suit
It partially inspired the Scorpion costume in the Mortal Kombat games. I remember reading that somewhere years ago. Ed Noon and his fellow creators took a lot of elements and inspiration from 70's and 80's action and martial arts movies. This was one of them.
Now if Daniel wore blue he'd be Sub-Zero
Chozen is also wearing black and gold colors, which is also the colors of the Cobra Kai students’ uniforms.
I was gonna say Shocker from the Spider-verse.
I just love how everybody in the audience had the same toy to play with at exactly the right time.
Yeah, it's almost like it's a movie... Almost.
there is a reason...watch the damn movie
It's supposedly part of the festival
Scorpion must have had some rough teen years.
Just be glad that dildos weren't the item that held the secrets of the family karate. Whole different scene would have assaulted your eyes.
Both were taught Miyagi Do. Guess Chosen was sick on drum day 🤦♂️😂
Yea I was wondering about that. How is it he is the only one that didn't know the "drum technique"?
@@stevenA44 That technique was called Secret for a Reason
@@ruturajshiralkar5566 It looked like just about everyone in the village knew it since they pulled a drum out 😂
@@stevenA44 He did know it
Chozen is the only guy in history who didn't get lost using the crane kick
Mike Barnes didn’t lose to the crane kick
I want to see Chozen's version of the Crane Kick
@@Edison720 Chozen did get kicked but he blocked it
@@Dom_0827 i didnt say I want to see it used against him but since he is trained in the style, he should have his own version of the kick
He knew how to defend it because he was privy to the Myagi-Do karate crane technique.
You gotta admit - the actor for Chozen is RIPPED
Yuji Okumuto
The acktor is yuki ojumoto
I just found out that he own a restaurant near me, I'm gonna go check it out...
@@KonElKent have you been there yet?
You know Kumiko banged that dude.....you knew it from the time he tossed her his shirt
35 years later. They are in a night club, drinking talking about Chozen feelings for the same girl they fought here. Life is funny
From the sounds of it, they were childhood friends before Chozen went over to the Dark Side of the Force. Kumiko helped to pull him back to the Light Side after this.
As much as I appreciate Kumiko helping Chozen becoming a better man, the whole suggestion that Chozen had feelings for Kumiko growing up kinda comes out of nowhere, and also contradicts this movie; right after Chozen kicks Daniel in the gut and says "You insult my honor again, I will kill you!", Kumiko says to Daniel "Ever since we were children, he's always been the same"
@@MorganKing95 Yeah, that also made me wonder. In KK2, Kumiko says that Chozen had always been a bully, even when they were kids. Yet in the Cobra Kai nightclub scene, Chozen says that they used to have fun playing hide and seek together. Someone is clearly not telling the truth.
@@Monatio79 Chozen was drunk when he told that story to Danny Boy. Or maybe Kumiko was just telling a lie about Chozen because she had a crush on Danny Boy.
@@elchichosantana6410 Well, people usually tell the truth when they're drunk. Secrets/personal feelings which you would normally keep to yourself are exposed when under the influence. So that would imply that Chozen's feelings were real; he really did chase her around as a kid. If you watch KK2, the scene when he takes off his shirt and says "You keep for your collection", Kumiko gives him a look that suggests they were not always at odds with each other.
Chozen: Oh Daniel is hitting me! I totally don't have arms to defend myself, and a honk to the nose is really deadly.
He walked into a club in open stance.. game.over..
Ah the 80's who needs a plot when there's music and a montage, great times. Apart from the whole Aids thing.......
@Meme Frog yes a honk from a trained boxer of strong man can not a skinny fucking teenage boy that I could take on in a wheel chair
Well the whole point was to deny him honor. Chozen said death because he would have to die proud or live in shame. Daniel just jebaited him. Chozen has barely any honor now that he got destroyed.
You need to watch part 1 to know what that "honk" is referring to :)
I love how the ancient technique that destroys chozen is swinging your arms back and forth
I wish they showed it better cause it makes sense if it follows the motion of the drum it works as offensive and defensive movements
Sadly Kenny use that ancient technique
LOL yeah basically
@@williamshelton4318 the power of bich slap
what a stupid fucking climax. just show his head jerking a half dozen times. oh i guess he's hitting him and it's working or something
Mr. Miyagi: Daniel-san could kill opponent if want to?
Daniel: Yes.
Mr. Miyagi: Then, why no kill?
Daniel: Because we need him for my trip to Okinawa in Cobra Kai Season 3.
In the franchise, I believe Chozen will always be Daniel's toughest opponent, because this was REAL.
Miyagi even warned him that wasn't like tournament.
What makes Chosen work as a anti villain it showed his uncle turn him into him and saw how much harm his actions have done and him saying he dead to him is him wanting to keep himself away from him seeing the monster he became and not wanting Chozen to be like him
I would almost agree, but I think Silver managed to outpace this. Chozen only went for Daniel’s life. Silver tried to destroy everything about Daniel
@@TheSuicune7 Very good point, Andrew! Also, it seems like after decades Terry learned MORE things about Tang Soo Do that John Kreese didn't. 😬
Chozen is also the only one to counter the crane kick.
Nah Mike Barnes was, he mentally broke Daniel while Daniel was never really that scared of Chozen.
Daniel's moves here is better than what he used against Barnes
agreed
Me too.
Everyone says that...that's why kk3 should had been kk2 and this should had been the third!!
Yesss your so rightt daniel was a better fighter in 1 and 2 idk what happened to he's skill in part 3 he was kinda gay in that movieee but no hate on him he's my numb 1 favorite character in cobra kai and karate kid
@@suymitshi hes alot tougher in cobra kia also. The way he beat up the 3 thugs on the beach was his most impressive since chozen. He also stands up to Johnny more in cobra kia and has no problem challenging to a fight. And even does fight him briefly!! ..the only time in cobra kia I thought he was a bit to tame was when kreeses turned up in his dojo and threatened him. Daniel did seem a bit scared of kreese there.
He earned his redemption though... He got way stronger with the secret techniques while Daniel is out her sellin motors
I mean that’s true but can’t blame Daniel for wanting to carry out mr miyagis love of cars and get rich while doing it.
@@sylvester3018 Plus his love for karate never faded, he kept it up for a long time
Chozen actually lost because his people sided against him
after that he had no reason to keep fighting
Facts! In Cobra Kai season 3 we'll hear that from Chozen!
@Evan Koch that's true especially in China and Japan it would go against there honor if its not full filled e xspecially with there ancestors
That's really accurate. Each antagonist (that wasn't a dojo owner) lost for a certain reason. Johnny lost because after he realized what Kreese had done to Daniel, he decided to let Daniel win the fight, (he would've easily blocked that kick otherwise, and probably would go on to win the match.) Chozen lost because his people sided against him. Barnes lost because he was so used to the advanced moves of Karate, that he didn't think about Daniel using kata, (he is a pretty stupid person in general.) These last two aren't even apart of the series, I just thought about putting them in. The antagonist in KK4 (The Next Karate Kid), Tommy, lost mainly because his karate was still premature. KK5's (Karate Kid 2010) antagonist, Cheng, lost because of plot armor, he is WAY better than Dre, Dre just pulled of a miracle to win the match.
@@Daniel-gn9xu ya when it comes down to it, Daniel has good karate skill BUT he is the worst at it compared to every one else, Johnny would have easily beat Daniel but the referee kept saving Daniel, same with chozen, he had no point to beat Daniel cuz if he did he would be looked down upon by his uncle
@@Daniel-gn9xuI think he beat Johnny legit, Chozen was weakened due to everyone rebelling [Not letting daniel win but he had his guard down] and Barnes underestimates Daniel due to Kreese and Silver making Daniel less mentally stable.
It’s insane to think that a couple decades later LaRusso, Toguchi and Johnny would all be drunk and singing Eye Of The Tiger inside of a limousine 😂.
All while Mike Barnes would be secretly driving said limo lol
I'm never seen anyone as gorgeous as Kumiko. Her face is almost angelic.
You could see that she would grow into a beautiful woman even in the 80's.
She is very beautiful.
Tamlyn Tomita who plays her is Japanese and Phillipino. I dated a few Phillipino girls after Mandy who is Korean and I broke up. Mandy like those Phillipino girls is truly beautiful. The Phillipino girls I dated have gotten married but we do remain good friends to this day. Matter of fact a few of them are friends with me on facebook as well and we keep in touch every week
@@dancastro6873 that's awesome man
@@davisdavisdavis Thank you
The arm drag flip over move that Chozen does at 3:12 is the same move that Daniel defeats Mike Barnes with in KK3. The only difference is here Daniel counters Chozen's follow up punch. Barne's couldn't counter Daniel's.
Chozen couldn't execute the kata properly, otherwise Daniel would have been toast.
He didn't karate chop him in the stomach after that like Daniel did in kk3 also it wasn't a tournament
Okay, finally, definitive proof Chozen > Barnes
Well spotted.
not to mention chozen wouldve killed him if it werent for the emotional drainage from realizing his whole village is against him, and them drums
That drum sounds like they are giving him spirit bomb .
Exactly
@@JensonChristopher did You See The part when Yukio is crying after Daniel repeatedly punches Chozen
@@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds YES!
It looks like that but it basically just reminded him of the move he practiced the whole film.
Lend me your energy
3:23 watching this as a 20 yr old now cuz I watched this when I was younger to me this looks like a representation as Miyagi and Sato fighting each other
Ok, so for everyone who is confused, they both come from Miyagido lineage, Miyagido is a defensive martial art, meaning that whenever one of them attacks, the other parries and counters, which is why they can cancel each other out, which is why Daniel wins, because his final attack is a parry followed immediately by a counter attack
Sure but why not just do that all the time if it’s so proficient.
@@YouTw1tFace That's one of the main themes of Cobra Kai season 4, is learning to let down your ego and integrate other styles into your own
@@arthurdurham Isn't that Jeet kun do? "Way of the Interrupting Fist"
chozen: I am going to try to get my honor back by threatening to kill a girl
Lmao
Yeah, *GREAT* way to get your honor back.
Murdering alittle girl....im incel.this guy is awimp.there are things that no man with honor evan dream to do..1 of them is to bully alittle sweet girl just for hurting her boyfrind
That's what I thought lmao like how tf is killing a girl in front of all the villager's going to help you regain your honor? 💀.That'll make it even worse
“Live or die man?”
“DIE”
“Wrong hOnK”
Iconic
Who knew that one day Mike Barnes would chisel two grand out of Chozen for a sofa. 😂
Chozen is such an awesome dude in Cobra Kai, he literally pays for it in full because he feels super guilty for the misunderstanding. :)
Personal opinion: The karate kid part 2 should’ve been the third movie in the series and the third one being the second. It doesn’t make sense for Daniel to be afraid of fighting an opponent and being fearful when literally the movie before, we see him fight to the death in China. Then in the third instalment HES afraid of fighting his opponent because he’s “a bad boy”??? Seriously, dude we just watched Daniel larusso literally fight to the death in this movie, now you’re telling me he’s afraid of fighting again in the tournament. Doesn’t make sense to me.
A lot of people feel this way. They kinda dropped the ball with the 3rd movie. I almost kinda wish that the cobra kai tv show would omit it from the series kinda like Stallone pretty much did with Rocky 5 but I get that it's canon and I guess the writers want to be loyal to the series. Plus, even tho he was pretty over the top at times Terry Silver was kind of an interesting character.
...did you literally call Okinawa fucking China?
@Keystone79 I agree
People just don’t understand the fact that the writers were trying to make Barnes the best of the best, as in better than Johnny and chozen.
@@isaacyeon6334 underrated comment fasho
Chozen: "I'll kill you!"
Daniel: "Haha haymaker go BRRRR."
This scene was one of the many reasons why I liked Kumiko the best out of Daniel's 3 girlfriends. She was brave and stood up to Chozen the whole movie, I mean seconds after the dude had a knife to her throat she got up and attacked him from behind despite having no martial arts training and knowing how deadly he is.
Chozen: "I fight him to death."
Johnny: "Oh yeah. What are you a ghost or something???"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why did the bad guy make him take the bridges? It's 1m tall, is everyone allergic to water? Everyone: "I really wanted to save the girl, but without those bridges how can I get there?"
😂😂😂😂 I was thinking the same, sheeesh they can even jump to the other side ffs
Yeah this is horrible directing nothing makes sense in this scene or even looks somewhat authentic at all
Symbolically to destroy the bridge between two cultures. In story, to make sure neither man can run from the fight, and that no one can help.
Chozen gets payback 36 years later
Yup
Bonk!
Hawnk
“I have waited a long time for this”
And his honor!
Both of them are Myagi-Do trained, crane kick won’t work on Chozen 🤦🏻♂️
Daniel ain’t afraid to fight to the death with Chozen, but, he’s afraid when he’s gotta fight for points in karate kid 3
Thats why KK3 is a terrible movie lol
And Daniel was able to break all 6 ice, but can’t break a wooden dummy in Karate kid 3 💀
Daniel got severely nerfed because they know damn well they couldn't do a better villain then chozen
He was scared of who he was fighting, Chozen wasn’t on Mike’s level back then.
@@H.K.5 Exactly, I never really got into KK3, felt it was too all over the place.
It's THIS fight that makes me have a hard time believing Karate Kid 3. It should have come before this movie, because Daniel is literally facing an opponent who wants to kill him here.
Yup poor writing
Well originally karate kid 3 was supposed to be a prequel about myigi’s ancestors, but the studio didn’t allow and instead order them to make another karate kid about Daniel and myigi, and then proceeded to give a budget that was $500,000 less than the budget of this movie.
Daniel didn't fight for anyone, so he had no reason other than to defend his title, plus, mike barnes was way more ruthless than Chozen in terms of final match. He wanted Daniel to feel pain and suffering, Chozen wanted to kill Daniel.
@@unnamedgamer7838 chosen wanted Daniel to suffer too. He literally beat da shit outta him through out the whole movie constantly fucking with daniel. Even when sato wasn’t even really bothered with miyagi.
I believe in reality daniel would’ve lost against chosen. Like come on chosen was ripped and far more experienced then daniel was and they was taught by the same equal sensi. I could see daniel beating Johnny bc Johnny sensi and miyagi not even a bit. But him beating chosen and mike was bs and it was obvious they just wanted the hero to win
He was not the Chozen one, sad. Daniel outdid him.
*Chozen version 2.0 from 2021 has entered the chat*
Plot armort that's why
Armor
OK, boys and girls: SPOILER ALERT!!!!! Chozen more than apologized to Daniel, he becomes Daniel's Sensai while he was in Okinawa.
“If an enemy insists on war, then you take away their ability to wage it.”
- Chozen
Honk haaahahaha
You're just the worse type of person.
Sparring not sensei, sparring for practice, sensei for life
-not mr. miyagi
“Defense takes on many forms”
- Chozen
Mr. Miyagi: You could have killed him couldn't you?
Daniel: Hai.
Mr. Miyagi: Well why didn't you?
Daniel: Because, Mr. Miyagi, I'll need help bringing down Silver in Cobra Kai Season 5.
Miyagi: Who is this Silver San? I haven't met him yet, this is only Movie 2 of KK.
Who is here after Cobra Kai Season 3 trailer?
Hello there
Me
@@ger.baltav General Kenobi!
@@bullymaguire4035 Yes
Ive Recorded Kk2
"Live or Die, man?"
"Die."
[LT] (Paragon) "Wrong." *honk*
In the original Karate kid Mr Miyagi told Daniel about the crane kick. “If done right no can defense” So he lied or Daniel did it wrong 😂😂😂🤷🏻♂️
Definitely did it wrong haha
It's a flashy move, but so predictable
If the person did not know about it,,, Chosen was probably told about it
Well maybe cause sato taught him how to do a crane kick sato is a student from miyagis father
As you can see when Daniel tries the kick chozen never seen a move like that so he fakes an attack and then when Daniel does it chozen knew what he was trying to do so he countered it
Who would of thought 36 years later Chozen would be helping Daniel defeat Cobra Kai. Fans of The Karate Kid franchise always wondered what happened to Chozen after the events that had taken place in Karate Kid 2. His life after Karate Kid 2 was always in question. Some fans thought he committed suicide or either became a hermit. I'm glad that Cobra Kai brought his character back and shedded light on how his life has transformed compared to how he was in KK2. The Cobra Kai series gave us Karate Kid fans closure on what was one of the most brought up theories of the Karate Kid franchise.
I think Chozen had time to reflect on his past misdeeds.
Waited 35 years to get revenge honk on Daniel. Chozen was the OG man of focus, commitment and sheer f*cking will way before John Wick.
That was the most silent crowd I've ever seen
Ikr why werent they cheering as the death match between 2 kids was going on
@@Inaresco I don’t think they would be cheering when they are watching something that when ends someone will probably die.
It's because they knew what could happen.
You see Miyagi getting out some pop corn with a smile on his face just laying back chilling.
It's a very nice detail actually, Japanese crowds are usually dead silent until something cool happens (it's a courtesy thing)
Is nobody gonna talk about how Chozen is dressed up as Scorpion? This movie was before the Mortal Kombat movie and game too.
Chozen really came a long way. I'm so glad he changed for the better, even helping Daniel.
After watching Cobra Kai, and then coming back to this, it really makes a person understand just how hard it must have been for both Sato and Myagi to have to sit there and watch two teenagers who are their sons in all but name fight to the death because Myagi decades ago declared his love for Sato's bride to be.
Fast forward to Cobra Kai and Daniel and Johnny are forced to watch as Sam, Miguel, Robby, and the rest of their students get into all-out brawls because decades ago, Daniel met Ali and started dating her.
Chozen...
From pure evil to a loyal friend...
He was pure evil in the second film
A loyal friend in the Cobra Kai series
He goes from a angry teenager to a wise man
*This not tournament .. This for real* .. just makes one's hair stand on end 😈
Just hearing those words makes me think this should have been the third sequel! I mean all valley,then Death match,then all valley again? That doesn’t make sense to me. KK2 should have had a plot with Kreese and the all valley and this should have been karate kid 3. Ending the trilogy with a death match! It fits well!!
Kelvin Bremont it is that way. Karate kid 3 happens after 1 and 2 takes place after 3. If you watch 3 or even cobra Kai it says Daniel won the all valley in back to back years. Then after he went to Japan and fought chozen.
@@jeffpraterJSF I don't know about Cobra Kai's explanation, but KK 3 specifically starts where KK 2 ends, with Daniel and Miyagi arriving at the airport from Okinawa and Daniel telling his mom that Kumiko didn't come with them because she went to a dance school in Japan.
@@robb.8214 cobra kai’s explanation is that kk 1 & 3 happen in back to back years and 2 happens after 3.
@@robb.8214 watch the all valley tournament scene in cobra Kai and it shows posters of Daniel on the wall winning in 1984 and 1985, kk 2 happens in 1985 post tournament or 1986.
They would never know that decades later this scene would be reenacted, love it,
well...not NEVER...they reenacted it
My problem with this scene is, there's no reason why Daniel should have been able to win here. But fortunately he does, and then punks down to Mike Barnes in the third one...just rly weird. Has a fight to the death, wins, but still has fear of a dude in a tournament? Nah
Karate kid 2 Danny would have mopped the floor With Mike in the 3rd movie.
agreed
Exactly
First two Karate Kid films are Classic, showing skill and character progression throughout. The third fumbles, at least in the skill portion. Chozen was skilled enough to be the hand to hand instructor for the Various American Special Forces Stationed in Okinawa, that's Green Beret's, Navy Seals, Marines, etc. And this was a DEATH Match, if he lost Daniel would have died... And then the third film rolls around, and he's getting jobbed by the Cobra Kai toughs again... Chozen would have beat Sensei Fuckwad from Kid 1 and Sensei Slickback from Kid 3 with his hands tied. HOW, HOW was Daniel reduced to trembling in a ring terrified of his opponent in the third film? Seriously? It would be like Goku going to beat Frieza only to come back to Earth and suddenly be afraid to fight Nappa and Raditz.
Besides for KK3 being kind of a writing mess, I'd argue for 2 reasons.
1. Chozen fought with honor and Daniel knows his moves, they're both Miyagi-do. It was scary but he at least knew what he was up against and knew Chozen would stay true to Miyagi-do fighting
2. KK3 Terry spends the whole movie messing with Daniel's head and when he fights Barnes, Barnes has no issue pulling out every dirty trick and is unhinged. That probably just freaked Daniel out bc he was out of his element.
@@arthurdurham Still thinking being ganged up on by Chozen and Two of his Buddies, having a SPEAR thrust in his face, choked and beaten, and then fighting in a literal DEATH Match with a guy who trains the Special Forces is more of a traumatizing head fuck to get over than having an 'unhinged' cheating bully in your face. Seriously, after taking Chozen he should have had no problem beating EITHER of the Sensei's from the Cobra Kai Dojo, let alone their little 'Angry Chihuahua' that was Barnes.
I mean I guess I'm not looking at it so much from a Bullied Kid's perspective, maybe Chozen didn't trigger the same kind of 'fear response' as Barnes did on a Traumatic Level, for Daniel perhaps 'Bully' means terrible danger on a mental level. Whereas Chozen was more 'enemy', sure he did BULLY but in a straight forward manner.
It has been a long time since I've watched 3, but the last time I did was during a Trilogy Marathon and I remember thinking then that Barnes was a Joke, and I even recall thinking the first time I watched it, that Daniel was going to just Crush him in the Tournament when he showed what he could really do, and the series was gonna end on him beating Sensei Slickback, the fact that it didn't and had him on the ground 'afraid' and wanting to run away just seemed like a complete character disaster for Daniel. :(
@@OnimaruAnji I can't disagree in concept as the execution of 3 is weird. But if you look at it from intent, Chozen and all that were outside forces that were dangerous to Daniel but didn't actively target his own self worth and insecurities.
There was no direct mind game, you can argue that it actually gave Daniel strength to fight bc he needed to beat him. Terry however went out of his way to gaslight and fuck with Daniel's beliefs of his own self and the foundational elements of Miyagi.
Neither of those movies are done with much tact or depth so I'm arguing this from a conceptual level. But like you mentioned it causes a different reaction being bullied vs being attacked. Nothing Chozen did made Daniel doubt himself, he was just dangerous.
Terry, and you can see this in Cobra Kai season 4, is amazing at breaking people from the inside. Which causes you to lose confidence in who you are regardless of actual danger. It's also why Chozen is redeamable why Terry isn't, bc Chozen was misguided and angry, not inherintly evil unlike Terry.
It's a big reason why people stay with abusive partners, shitty jobs, etc. Because they may be able to leave but they have been convinced they are too weak too.
Chozen is like trying to stop a wild dog running at you. Terry (and by proximity Barnes) is being tricked into thinking that a cat running at you is really a pack of lions.
@@arthurdurham I can certainly see your point, and the psychology likely would be a determining factor, if again they were writing with significant depth to the characters for 3 and not just 'new bad guy must be stronger'.
But I'd definitely say that the reason for the issue, isn't that Barnes wasn't a good fighter, or that he was psychologically dominating Daniel, as any fighter can attest, fear dulls your reactions, makes you slow... But it DOESN'T rob you of your skill or training.
To go from matching a Master of his Craft in Chozen, who demonstrably is skilled enough to dominate FOUR trained Soldier Opponents , to not being able to even TOUCH, outside of ONE blow, 'Tournament Terror' Barnes, I don't object that playing off Daniel's trauma's couldn't make it so he'd be a challenge, or even lose to him due to his dirty tricks, but to completely dominate him as if he was still the '3 months of training' version from KK1.... It should have been that Barnes had an EDGE, not totally unstoppable.
@@arthurdurham Karate Kid II is the best of the Karate Saga.
Daniel : Live or Die man??
Chozen: Die!!
Daniel : Wrong! Let me fix your nose instead😂
Crowd: aaaaaaah👏👏👏👏👏
Love how Chozen patiently waited for Daniel to get into the crane position
Probably because he knows that technique, so he waited patiently to counter. They are both trained in the same style.
@@holyflame2and even then, the crane kick MIGHT probably still work on an opponent who is already aware of that move because in the first movie miyagi confirms that it only works "if it's done correctly"
@@badpastershe was sizing up the situation. He even threw a clever pump fake to throw off Daniels timing.
No way Daniel could have really beaten Chozen in a no-holds-barred match! Chozen was physically superior and more skilled. Hollywood helped Daniel hahahaha
And I don't give a fk what anyone says, in a street fight, Chozen kills Mike Barnes.
A wise man said once that it doesn't matter how strong you are, it's better if you are SMARTER.
Daniel's desire to live was stronger than Chozen's desire to kill.
No question Chozen was whooping his ass. Shoulda finished off Danielle
A comment from someone who obviously is unaware of the drum method. An advanced technique.
4:24 even though Daniel looked weak he still fought strong
Fought*
@@STEEZYIZAIAHH. thanks for the correction
In a way Daniel winning that fight really is saving Chozen from a horrible drunken and depressed life. It put Chozen on a path of redemption and having a chance with a dried neck Kumiko.
Miyagi: you could have killed him couldn't you
Daniel: yes
Miyagi: then why didn't you
Daniel: we might need him in 30 something years
I still think Chozen is the best fighter of all the villains.
why?
@@Mark-px8jt He's the only antagonist who has successfully landed a hit on Miyagi
@@Mark-px8jt Have you seen Cobra Kai season 3?
@@_spt-warwolf_4575 Well yeah because that was the only fight we’re Miyagi had to worry about Daniel.
nah johnny 100%. only when they were younger though. now in cobra kai ( all of them older ) chozen definitely got it
0:52 "This not tournament. This for real"
Best quote in the movie
Actually, it _is._ First prize: you get to live. The man who dies loses.
I like that even though they had to play the typical damsel trope (cause it was the 80s) they at least didn't have Kumiko stand by. She did her best to get out of it and then choked him out the second she had the chance. Sure she got KOed easily, but he's a martial artist and she's not. That's more justification than 90 percent of movies where anyone who isn't participating directly in the fight just decides to stand back and watch rather than help.
Not a bad trope better than muh bullshit of marvel
@@latioswarr3785 How is "bystanders just let the hero get murdered" not a bad trope?
The gasoline