Testing UL Listed Carbon Monoxide Alarms vs. Defender Low Level Upgrade
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- You probably completely overestimate what your carbon monoxide alarm is protecting your family from- in this quick 'bump test' demonstration, we prove that your family's immediate death might be prevented, but long term health effects from low level CO poisoning are also a huge issue that literally no one but you can prevent.
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I’m still recovering from CO poisoning from a broken furnace exhaust vent. I’m super active and put in several hours of aerobic exercise a day, such as running on my treadmill. In my home. My health dramatically deteriorated all winter long. It started with IBS, difficulty concentrating and fainting spells that progressed to stroke like symptoms and neuropathy. None of my doctors took me seriously when I told them I felt like I was slowly dying. When I went to the ER, I would present as if I were drunk and was incapable of advocating for myself so they just assumed I was an addict. Or just crazy. By the end of it, I had, and still somewhat have, Parkinsonism and my family and pet started throwing up so I finally called Xcel energy who then found the leak. The sad part is that I thought of CO months before I got that bad and told multiple people but everyone said not to worry and trust the 4 smoke detectors in my home. Turns out, they won’t go off until I’m already unconscious or dead. Hence why I’m here, to learn more so I can better protect myself and my family moving forward. I could have lost my life, or worse, my child’s life, from placing blind trust in a useless piece of plastic. I won’t ever make that mistake again! Thank you for speaking the truth!
Edited to add: for reference, I’m a 29 year old, 110 lb female (although I lost a good 15 lbs throughout and it wasn’t pretty).
Also, a word for anyone who reads this to keep in mind; when you are actively in the middle of CO poisoning, don’t expect that you’ll be able to think clearly. I wouldn’t even be able to remember the experiences if I hadn’t started recording audio during them because my doctors had me pretty well convinced I was losing my mind. Expect that you won’t be able to remember things, to make wise decisions, or to even register the severity of it. The scariest part, in hindsight, was that it made me feel oddly blissful even as half my body was going and staying numb while I lied there, incapable of moving. If you wait until you’re in the thick of it, you’ve waited too long and are just as useless as a modern detector.
WOW, Kita, what a story! So sorry you weren’t taken seriously, and so glad you made it through!!!
I feel your pain,, recently had my boiler condemned, after months of visiting a&e with heart pains, fatigue , bowel problems , headaches and a whole other list of other problems
confused about the smoke alarm comments they made. smoke alarm won't detect co.
Thank you for sharing. Hope you full recovery soon.
Alarm, sensor and monitor each have different meanings. Invest in a monitor that will continually provide a reading on current levels in your home. An alarm doesn’t tell you anything until it gets to a deadly point and beeps.
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What brand/model do you recommend
@@annecyle Smart Sensor CO handheld meter is what I always recommend as it is extremely fast to respond, making it very useful for walking around your home of place of work, and know instantly when you move into a position that has CO present. Smart Sensor is a brand - just thought I would clarify that ;)...
Ooops, I didn't even notice that this comment was from 2 years ago, and know one commented???... Hopefully I am not too late LOL..
Does this mean that monitor has no delay in reading of the current level of CO? I use the alarm from the company Smartwares, which has a monitor.
@@petarkosic8852 I believe he means, get a monitor that shows live data. The alarms in this video only alarm at factory preset levels, and those levels are set way too high. Any reading above 1 that does not go back to 0 within a few moments, needs to be investigated. You should never let CO levels get as high as 50 before looking into what may be going on, because at 50ppm the level is already way too high, and should have been investigated before it got that high. Hope this makes sense.
As a Master Automotive Tech, I worked a small shops, doors close on a creeper. 50PPM for 2 minutes will give a headache at ground level. If a "CO" only detector says to mount on wall at 60" or 80", pass. If it say to mount on ceiling, it is for smoke only. We use $10k machines with calibration tanks with 4 gases and these where $300.
Devices that do both smoke and CO, pass.
CO detectors should or must be mount 18" off floor. Smoke rises, so? Ceiling, yes! You win.
DK. Omaha. ASE Master Tech since 78
Thank you so much! This is very important information. I am going to check out my CO monitor’s
Wow this video needs more views. Everyone should know this information to be safe at home
Thanks! Please share
This was great and very helpful.Thank y'all for taking the time to put this up.🙏👍
Our pleasure, glad it helped you
I have several UL listed CO detectors but also kids, so thank you for the heads up about that, Corbett!
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Thank you for shearing this important information! I didn’t know this and most people that buy these don’t know either!
This is an amazing resource, thank you! I'm getting one of those monitors you linked.
Wonderful, glad you found us
I am a home inspector in California and truly appreciate your work on this topic. I also do some expert witness work on CO poisoning cases. Since you have a pretty broad audience, I would only suggest using caution when saying that something is required or required by code. Unfortunately, there are a number of states that do not mandate CO alarms in residential occupancies. There are also states that do not adopt building codes in certain residential and other building types. In California, we are lucky enough to require CO alarms in every residential occupancy type.
Thanks for clarifying, Skip!
@@HomePerformanceWould both of you suggest that an optimal strategy from an economic and safety perspective that the US adopt a unified building code, segmented out into say 7 regional zones, which is applied to new construction?
@youtubereview8176 I doubt that’s possible, and not sure we would suggest it
@@youtubereview8176 Can you imagine the usual suspects screaming "socialism" and "government overreach" and "anti american" and ...
I always try to keep my home ventilated For many reasons anyway. I’m definitely getting the mini for travel
I have two Defender CA6150 ($99 each) Carbon Monoxide Alarms and the one lasted 7 years until the alarm kept going off. No, it did not show any levels of CO. I brought the Defender from the basement to replace the one upstairs and there was no problem. It did not show any CO and I had no problem with the alarm going off. The real problem is the CA6150 has a 10 Year Warranty, but lots of luck in getting any answers for a return or replacement. It's the old run around game with this Canadian company.
I read the manual also and found that info and decided to look at chart levels for health hazards. The scale starts at 20 - 200 you would have issues at 20 and my first thought is alarm devices are useless needs a live readout.
This was an outstanding video! I wish I could like it more than once.
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This was extremely helpful, thank you
Thank you fir shearing this important information! I didn’t know this and most people that buy these don’t know either!
Glad you found us @Deniam11- there’s more where that came from
Thanks for making this very informative video.
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Thanks for the education. Just placed my order for the one that reads down to 5 ppm. It's not cheap but totally worth it.
Wow I recently read about a lady and her son who passed from carbon monoxide poisoning in Texas, during the cold front. They were trying to keep warm in the car in the garage with the heat on. Such a tragedy.
Thanks for the information guys, we’ll definitely be checking out our alarm!
Oh man, too many people just don’t grasp the invisible stuff going on around them. Thanks for following!
This is how I lost my best friend
Sorry to hear Shavell
This is a very good presentation. I would venture to say, most areas would allow low-level CO detectors and encourage their use, since they exceed basic requirements. Contractors may have difficulty sourcing rapid-response detectors and find them significantly more expensive than brand name UL-2034 detectors. This becomes an integrity issue, since with knowledge comes responsibility, even to the point of educating local inspectors to their benefits. Best practice is never dismiss a CO alarm activation simply as a nuisance alarm; Exit and call 9-11. Your local fire department and/or gas utility technician should carry rapid-response detectors that are intrinsically safe and can diagnose the problem in a safe and timely manner. Please remember to take a CO travel detector with you on vacation, especially out of the country!
I LOVE the way the whole family is involved in production! I think your family saved my family from the ills of Carbon Dioxide poisoning. Symptoms: My wife, daughter and I have been waking up with headaches, upset stomachs and dizziness for a couple of years. 'doh de dum de dumb' I go off to work and within an hour or so the symptoms disappear. I am starting to look into checking out detectors. I'll install them after the in-laws leave at Christmas. I am going to hire your group for a video consultation at some point. THANK YOU for all you have done for the Harry home owners like me of the world.
Duane, that’s so great to hear! Happy we’ve helped your family in any way!
Yes, Defender would be top, then CO Experts.
Don’t recall, but any of these will be a match:
www.trutechtools.com/Carbon-Monoxide-Detectors_c_1973.html
Yes, that’s what they’re for, there are about a dozen different models out there, I’ve had several over the years.
@@HomePerformance what model is the orange one you can wear that you showed in video? How can we get one of those. We have used Defender Monitors for almost 6yrs now. Really like how your educating folks on the difference between Code approved and what true safety for immediate response is.
I'm glad I watched this video and Thank you 👍
Thank you both for this life saving information and demonstration of these different carbon monoxide alarms ... you have woken me up to what is the right type to buy and install ...
its amazing that the UL type do not sound there alarm for some time almost defeats the point that they are there for ... many thanks again for your video.
So glad it helped you Ginger
Honestly It never occurred to me to read all of that. More importantly however, without the rest of the information you gave, I don't know that I would have known what it meant to me. And I'm a bit more technical than most average people, so you know the average consumer will read that, feel confused, and then just go back to the "well, it's UL listed, so therefore it must be what's needed to keep me safe" kind of thinking.
Excellent point, Compactc9
Thank you!
I 100% agree with everything that you said. Smoke alarms next???
Smoke alarms next.
@@HomePerformance As a life safety enthusiast quality videos about life safety products are important but yet too many people do not spread the right information and judging on this video the video about smoke detectors is gonna be a good one.
Great information. Thank you. I love the real facts.
Thanks Marshall
Thank you, Much appreciated.
Thx for watching
Upgrading asap. Thanks.
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I ordered the CO2 Low level detector and the personal wear one also. I have a rv and will use the personal wear on to monitor it on camping trips and then use it when I check out attic furnace on the home we have been discussing.
Cool Byron, way to be a pro
Byron, please understand that CO2 and CO are different things entirely. But to complicate things, they both can have sensors to alert for unsafe levels.
You are very smart to do this.
And so basically what I’m getting out of this is I need to buy another more expensive detector . So that’s what I’m gonna do . I’m sure I can order it online . Anyway carbon monoxide has always been one of my biggest fears . A guy I work with back in the 80s he came home to his wife and 2 kids unconcious . He pulled them out of the house and by the time he got them out he had passed out also . Thankfully they were all rushed to the hospital and recovered over time . But just knowing that story scares me half to death .
Great, informative video! So expertly presented also. I was unfortunately exposed to low level carbon monoxide for almost 5 months. I just moved into a condo and immediately started feeling sick. People were telling me it’s the stress of moving, etc. etc., I even had 8 Dr. appointments in one month, back in Dec.. of 2018. I mentioned to them that I just moved but no one thought that co could be the problem. I lost 28 lbs in a about 3 months, had horrendous stomach pain, diarrhea, headaches, severe tiredness,, depression, forgetfulness, etc.. I just thought I was dying. I had carbon monoxide detectors and they never went off until I came home one night from work and part of my furnas split in 2 and was spewing pure carbon monoxide. This is what probably saved my life. 32 ppm were detected. It was a bad heat exchanger. I also had a home inspection and was told it was fully functional. I had planned to get a new heater due to its older age but thought I was protected by having those co detectors. Learn from my situation, get the low level detectors. I developed polyps in my stomach, gastritis, signs of macular degeneration, and short and long term memory issues, ptsd, and seem to have less patience overall. I’m glad we’re making strides in low level detection that could save people from dying or harming themselves….
Holy cow, Turquoise, what a terrible story. So glad you’ve escaped with your life, and we hope you continue to recover!
Very useful!! Thanks!!!
What a quality video!
Thanks Jamie!
Thanks for this information. Is one low level monitor sufficient for a single story home or should there be one in each room? Thanks for your help.
Great presentation and thanks for the information
Happy to help Glen
Worked for a year at a car repair facility. Winter time was tough.. yup carbon monoxide poisoning . Next house will have no gas burning appliances. I know you beat this horse a lot and Thank you for doing so.
Thanks for sharing and following, Steve
@@HomePerformance Usually do learn a great deal in watching your videos Dont always agree, but that is usually due to life experience. Still no need to argue when your presentation makes sense even if I would rather do other wise :) . Not sure why but You Tube stopped sending me notifications of your posts... That is why you had not seen me commenting for a bit. Thought that was odd. and yes I have all selected on notification bell
Thanks Steve- we’ve been in a lull with getting videos out, but we’ll be back in high gear soon. Maybe why the notifications seemed slim.
@@HomePerformance I try to keep up but things have been crazy here also. The van is driving me crazy.
Upgrade to moving truck
Great information
Thanks
Thank you for sharing the detailed video. In our home, the carbon monoxide and smoke detectors in the basement go off every month. It appears there may be an issue with the furnace or water heater. Could you please provide the brand name or a list of professional-grade carbon monoxide detectors with a digital display that you used in the video? Specifically the portable orange one.
WOW! Amazing information! True Tools is out of stock. I WILL be checking back with them in 3 weeks! I hit the "like" and "subscribe" buttons.
Thanks Dwayne!
Hi. Thank you SO much for your very informative video, I appreciate it a lot. I have a question, Could you post the link in your description of the other carbon monoxide monitors you recommend there? I believe the link in the description is only to one. Thanks!
Yes, please do that!
Knowledge is power
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Your video says it all! Thank you so much. Are there any less expensive options available? I live in an apartment with incorrectly vented heaters..I have been going down hill health wise for 5 years. I thought it was from neighbors cigarette smoke. I got a little air monitor that was showing me extremely high levels of TVOC when the smokers were away and the heater was on. NO CO alarms! I found out last week the heater was very poorly vented with the wrong size duct and the flue is also obstructed.!! I wouldnt be alive had I not slept with door and windows open ( not safe) during the coldest months to try and eliminate the cigarette smoke. the little air monitor was a life saver in pointing out an issue.. I have no idea how much CO i have been exposed to .. the utility company came out and shut down the heater on thursday for too much CO. all week long people kept telling me.. "you are safe as long as your carbon monoxide alarms are not going off!" I am 90% positive the 3 others heaters are also incorrectly installed as I am still getting high TVOC reading especially when it is cold at nite and early morning.. is there any less expensive $100 or so option for checking what the levels are ? thank you so very much! I hope we can get the codes changed. I am convinced this may be causing some of the neurological conditions so many people are impacted with.
Did you fix the problem- how do you feel now?
Thank you for this video. I have been having headaches and stomach aches and nausea. I have a mini fridge in the room that has poor ventilation. Do you think CO could be coming from the mini fridge?
No, very unlikely. But there are tons of other things and scenarios that might be affecting you. Check out our playlists ‘Healthy Indoors’ and ‘HOMEChem’
For months, at least, my old gas heater was malfunctioning. I didn't get headaches (weirdly), but I did get increasingly dazed and fatigued, just more and more out of it - so badly out of it I couldn't think clearly. I couldn't even think, "Hey, there's a problem here. What can I do?" I would stagger against door frames, was extremely unwell generally. Finally, one time I was out of the house for most of the day and got enough oxygen to my brain (or my guardian angels told me subconsciously, I don't know), but whatever the cause I realized my problem was really quite serious, whatever was causing it. AND that symptoms were much worse when I was IN the house, that I really felt much better when outside the house - so maybe there was an air problem. I called the gas company to come check, and they detected the CO problem. Those First Alert brand detectors my landlady had dutifully installed in each room had given me no warning whatsoever. Buy a reliable brand folks, it's worth the extra $$. And I would get a monitor, not an alarm. Low grade continual lack of oxygen which increases over time still causes brain damage - I'm still trying to recover, over a year later. Brain damage affects a lot of things - cognition, memory, mood, reactivity, energy levels... You don't want the symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning. Sure wish I had known sooner!
Great info guys. Did u guys test the Defender LL6170 Low Level CO Monitor Alarm at $199? How is it different from CA6150 or the CD8180?
Yes, that’s the one. Have not read the specs on others.
What do i need to protect my family from health risks? Can you tell us the model to buy?
what about benzene monitoring, is there anything for that? thanks again!
So, which one for my camper van with a diesel heater that exhausts outside?
By the way, you both did an excellent job in this video.
I've confused to get a detector instead of an alarm.
Low level always for health and not just death, @PrecisionT. And Kasparov, they are the same. A detector will have an alarm for a certain level of CO.
Forget the home detector. I want the Osha certified clip on detectors. What is the brand name, and how can I get one of those?
Great video! Our neighbors entire household of 7 just passed in what is believed carbon monoxide poisoning. I never knew that some alarms won't signal until it's too high. How scary! Our whole town is out buy Co2 detectors right now!
How terrible, I’m sad to hear it.
Was it the Moorhead family on the news?
@@superiorelectric8295 yes. it was carbon monoxide due to their furnace.
CO detectors
Please be careful because there is actually such a thing as a co2 detector but it’s completely different than a CO detector. Depending on the circumstances you may want both but please don’t confuse the two.
Guess it's always worth having one system for compliance and regulation [necessary but often the lowest common denominator] and the 'over and above' top up.
Hello, I have two parrots in my home and was going to replace my carbon monoxide detector when I learned that I should be using a low level one. I am retired so I can check it quite frequently.
Defender vs co experts vs nci600
Or any others you recommend
Thank you
Where do you recommend we place them in our home? Are there any low level monitors that install within an ERV ventilation system so one device could monitor the entire home?
Put them where you hang out, AND/OR where there are combustion appliances (water heaters, furnaces, etc) that could create the CO. No, I don't advise putting a sensor into the ERV supply or exhaust, except for curiosity's sake.
What is that personal monitor you use? As an hvac tech I personally carry a Testo 317 with me.
Good question. Haven't seen such small one. Any description link? Thanks for the video, quite informative, as always!
Decades ago my wife used to drive junker delivery cars for her Dad's auto parts business. She always got headaches that cleared up after driving was done for the day in the clunker
How is she doing now or after she changed envrioments?
I appreciate this video. My interest is in a house we bought to rent out. The garage was converted to interior space with its own supply air and return air. There is a gas water heater in this room that is in a space with a door that is not sealed. It does have two supply air through the outside wall. Still there is a concern for Carbon Monoxide problems in the house so I will be ordering one of the detectors from the company you provided the link to and hopefully can get Nashville, TN codes department to help me determine if I must do more. Cannot find much information on proper room for this water heater to make it the safest. Is there a code book or can you make any suggestions. Thanks, :)
Hey Byron- you have 4 choices to be certain it’s safe in all scenarios:
1. Don’t let anyone stay there
2. Remove the water heater and all other contaminant sources
3. Airseal the garage from the living space above
4. Induce a pressure imbalance that results in air always moving from the living space to the garage, and never vice versa
@@HomePerformance The garage is now interior space and the water heater is in non-sealed closet with supply air from the outside. It can be sealed up from the inside of the house/converted garage. My plan is to seal it to itself in the enclosure that will not allow any air to be shared with the house. I would just install and electric water heater, but the electric panel is only 100 amp.
I will add the CO2 detectors you mentioned for low level. There were a couple of detectors on the site. Is the LL6170 the only one recommended or is there another one. Also plan on buying the personal wear unit for other reasons. Thanks for your response.
@@byronewhite please don’t seal up a room with a gas water heater. The room is vented because the device needs air to get oxygen to burn the gas. Without sufficient oxygen the gas won’t burn properly and you will get more CO.
@@byronewhite why are you talking about CO2 detectors? That’s not the same thing as CO. But both types do actually exist, hence the confusion.
I have ZERO KNOWLEDGE of this. Upgrading now! For 1,400 sq. ft. home would you suggest 1 in a central area? Or one upstairs and one downstairs? You know these are “expensive” compared to others but OMG so worth it to save a life or lifelong health problems.
If you have just one anywhere in the home, it’ll do the trick.
@@HomePerformance That makes me think… How far away from the Co point of origin can these detectors sense? Do they have different radius?
Wonder if you can just take it outside and hold it in front of the riding mower, or car exhaust just to see if it works. My Nighthawk detector that I've had for decades sounded off near a Mr Heater and it went to 300 PPM in about 5 minutes and nearly busted my ear drum when it went off. Upon retesting around the heater it now reads 0 ppm. I've got a feeling it bit the dust after that first alert.
Yes, it is possible to drown the sensor. Good thinking.
Can anyone please recommend a good CO unit? I love the LL 6170 but would prefer to save a few bucks- are there any other that can also get near 10 ppm but closer to $100-$150?
Very interesting...Ok so I'm from Jamaica in the mountains,never had no type Corbon monoxide experience,I only know that it comes out of cars tail pipe, question does it come from electric heaters,??
Not electric heaters, Rohan, just combustion.
So, UL listed means the alarm must delay at dangerous levels until the situation is dire? What was the reasoning process that led to that standard?
I’m led to believe that in the recent past fire depts across the US were bleeding money and time chasing down low level alarm calls, and it wasn’t sustainable.
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This is the same answer that you get when you take the national comfort institute three day class on combustion certification.
Good to hear
I can't tell if you are recommending the LL 6170 or the 6150. To put it another way, is the 6170 really worth twice the price? Thanks.
Yes, 6170 is our pref. Worth every penny when you need it, imho.
Hi, would you recommend the AimSafety PM100-CO Carbon Monoxide Single-Gas Monitor for Home Inspectors. I need a CO detector for when inspecting furnaces and HWH?
Sure, all those OSHA units are pretty legit far as I know.
what is the manufacturer / model for that small orange one? Thank you
Can you give us the brand name of the low level. We have the Kidde nighthawks with digital read out. We just bought a hand held. We had the FD out here Thursday because our detector was at 32. The FD was getting 16 ppm in our mud room. We had HVAC check the furnace and it's functioning properly. I'm just trying to figure this out and want my kids safe while we do. So I'd love the brand name on the low level you were demonstrating.
Defender
How much would a profesional one like the one the firefighters use cost?
So which model would you recommend? Thank you
That's crazy!!!!! Most ppl don't know this
Spread the word brother
This morning I was awakened 8am from my kidde smoke and CO detector went off. Fire dept called and nothing detected. It was made 2016. I opened the box March 2021 and this was the 1st time it went off none stop. Last 1 or 2 was. Ago it went off for very short time. I had nothing running outside my normal appliance. Received a New water heater this past summer. Pilot light was not orange or red according to the fire dept. I saw blue light when my electric furnish heat came on but no red or orange flames. I believe by breathing in cold winter breath I was hyper venting which may have caused slight headache lasting short time after leaving my home and calling the fire dept. what is a quality smoke and co detector combo or should I purchase separate one?
Angela, you can’t ‘see’ CO being created, I hope they did more than just look at flames. Yes, get another $50 detector, but be very alert if it goes off again. Recommend having your combustion appliances tested and tuned/modified if necessary.
Good after noon! I am still confused with this technology.
BRUNSWICK COUNTY, N.C. (WECT) - Brunswick County Schools provided an update Friday on its efforts to install ionized purification systems to its buildings and buses.
Yikes. Ionization means more chemicals. Not CO though, as far as I know.
I'm confused. A specific brand wasn't recommended so I guess as long as they have the features you highlighted they're all good? And when I went to amazon and searched 'carbon monoxide low level detectors' it retrieved the same detectors as when I searched 'carbon monoxide detectors'. I clicked on one of them and none of the features said, 'low level detector'? Please clarify, thank you.
The one we recommend is linked in the video description, Marty
On the subject of mounting, CO is only slightly heavier than air as opposed to CO2 is considerably heavier than air. Where do you mount the CO monitor? High or low on the wall?
So many conventive currents inside a home, even with no fans running- CO evidently only predictably sinks in air when the air temp is at freezing or below. Put the CO detector inside on the ceiling.
I've got a few medical problems. Two relevant issues are that I have Meniere's disease, and another problem that has me taking opioid painkillers. Some of the symptoms of Meniere's and side effects of the painkillers are Dizziness, Slight mental "Fuzziness", Headache, Nausea, Vomiting............. Does this collection of symptoms sound familiar?..... Bingo ! It could just as easily be CO poisoning. This means where most people would see any one of these symptoms as something to look into, I'd most likely brush them off as just another day with my unpredictable health.
I also heat the house with paraffin (Kerosene) heaters, so as there's a very credible risk that I COULD wind up dead before realising anything was out of the usual, I have cheap CO alarms with LCD displays dotted around the house. I also have a hand held CO meter that I occasionally use to check that what the alarms show is at least roughly right. With portable paraffin heaters you always going to get some CO build up, but through varying the ventilation I can usually keep the parts per million in my arbitrarily set single digits limit for my 24/7 exposure (I already spend 90% of my life feeling like cr*p, so I don't want to risk adding to that). By glancing at the display on one of the CO alarms as I pass them, then using the highly scientific method of varying how far a couple of windows are cracked open, I can usually keep it below that
Hi, so my father and I both had carbon monoxide in our system. I had the fire department come out twice and they measured 0 on the meter. Not sure were it's coming from. Is there a meter I can purchase of high quality that is a 100 percent accurate?
Any pro-grade wearable monitor in the $200-300 range, Ryan. Hope you feel better.
Do you have any other recommended brands?
Did you happen to find a good model/brand? I need one too. Thx.
you have to mount the detector in a certain way a distance from the stove and heater and mid height on the wall and not on the ceiling like a smoke alarm. RTFM.
I had my carbon monoxide alarm go off 1 day at 3am. The only reason why i heard it was myself and 2 other roommates all got up at 3AM for work and it was a very low 4 beeps. I had top look it up online to see it meant danger. That alarm would have not woke any of us up. Looking for a new one to place in all of our rooms and in the hallway.
I'm living in an older RV a 1998 Fleetwood bounder to be exactly,I use a harbor freight electric heater ,am I in any way exposed to carbon monoxide???
Probably other chemicals for sure, Rohan, but not CO from your heater.
I never leave comments but I get frustrated with videos that do not list all products on screen. What is the name of the little orange detector? Price is not an option. I’m taking screen shots and surfing the internet to match it visually and finally gave up. Please if something is on screen we want to know what it is.
You don’t have to be mean, all you need to do is ask.
www.trutechtools.com/Macurco-PM100-CO-Carbon-Monoxide-Single-Gas-Monitor
@@HomePerformance He shouldn’t have to ask. If it’s as important as you say, just give us the product names in your video.
The brand name is not important. There are tons of wearable CO detectors, a simple google search would teach you this.
What is the brand of the portable monitor you carry with you?
I’ve used most of these, take your pick:
www.trutechtools.com/Carbon-Monoxide-Detectors_c_1973.html
where can i get the orange one.
Y'all remind me of the couple on Portlandia !
Do I get to be Lance or Spike?
Do you recommend one even in an all electric home
Great q- probably not necessary if you don’t have combustion (including candles- I’ve seen ppl go nuts with candles)
@@HomePerformance I was actually thinking more along the lines of having it just in case. They are not that expensive so why not
Whatever makes you happy, O- I’m going to keep looking at my radon numbers even though they’ll be nothing- it makes me happy to see it.
J L, if you have an attached garage on your electric home then you should have a CO alarm.
I really wish the nest protect was not just an alarm. An actual reading is really useful.
It takes a bunch of people asking for something before ‘they’ will throw money at it
Agreed. The more people that ask the higher chance we will get it.
I want to buy the ORANGE one.
Wow
My CO monitor keeps going off and the beeping is giving me a head ache and making me dizzy! :(
NICE
time to buy a good monitor
What model is the small commercial model that you wore to the restaurant?
There are lots of different types, all in the $200-400 range. Try here: www.trutechtools.com/Carbon-Monoxide-Detectors_c_1973.html
@@HomePerformance thank you for responding and for the link. Enjoyed the video and learned quite a bit.
Happy trails buddy
Whats that music in the outro called?
from clinical treatment guidelines
"The half-life of COHb in a patient breathing clean room air is approximately 250 to 320 minutes; this decreases to 90 minutes with high-flow oxygen (>15 L/minute) provided via a nonrebreathing mask." or about 5.5 hrs for a healthy adult
doing some math,
amount of time since acute exposure vs CO dose remaining in blood
Room air
2.75 hrs, 70%
5.5 hrs, 50%
11 hrs, 25%
16.5 hrs, 12.5%
22 hrs, 6.125%
Pure oxygen
45 min, 70%
1.5 hrs, 50%
3 hrs, 25%
4.5 hrs, 12.5%
6 hrs, 6.125%
The description link for CO alarms returned zero result.
Weird. Fixed. Try this.
www.trutechtools.com/Defender_c_1955.html
WHats the little sebsor caled and where can i buy it?
www.trutechtools.com/co-detectors.html
Why not tell us what to get. The link goes to several UL listed units I thought you didn't like...???
It’s in the title of the video, Bruce- Defender Low-Level Detector. And only one on that linked page is UL.
Please list make and model of small orange unit.
AimSafety CO Single Gas Monitor PM100-CO .
Many other small units also
dont need a co detector in this house. Figure the ACH is likely above 7. The house was built in 1948. Little to no insulation. 1 x 4 t&g walls. Aluminum siding and who knows what kind of clab boards under that siding. Ah life before Building Science showed what actually is great best practice in construction. Next house I think will have hempcrete. Might even put in a balanced hrv
The "at home all day" line had me laughing. Half the country has been commanded to stay home for the last year now....
A quick note about placement would have been nice. For units that plug in, do or don't use outlets lower on the wall, do or don't use countertop outlets, etc... and if battery only best placement height.
I know, right? We actually shot this right at the beginning of the pandemic, had no idea we’d all be shut in for this long. Hilarious.
Yes, I was hoping placement was covered as well.
Ok, here we go gents: There are actually code guidelines for where and how many UL-listed units every home must have. In the case of these low-level ones, the install manual gives good guidelines, but they’re battery powered and can go anywhere. Put them at face level (where you’re breathing together) wherever the risk of CO is higher- kitchens, near mechanical rooms, etc. Interestingly, these are exactly the places they tell you NOT to put your UL-listed ones.
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I think the whole “airtight homes are more prone to carbon monoxide” thing is a bit misleading. If the flue pipe on your old 80% efficient furnace rots out and breaks away from the main vent, your goin to have a co problem even though your house was built in the 40s.
yes that would be true if I had an old pipe. It got changed years ago along with putting in a duel fuel furnace. The attic space where the furnace sits is perhaps 3 feet from a gable side wall vent. As I said old house. I certainly would not build this way again.. Heat pumps and ductless. I do have the heatpump and it works well.
Ok did I hear you right that you need both a low level and a UL listed detector?
By code, yes, though I question whether the UL one matters.