"There is no geo healer" Despite being one of first characters you get in genshin people still act like Noelle doesn't exist (and yes, she can fully heal your entire team just by holding charged attack)
There is still no geo healer. Noelle has a hard time healing plus she us on field so you can't even use her within the context of this video - a noelle main
@@putent9623 'hard time healing' LMAO... Don't spread such misinformation. You are only right that Omega was right - in context of looking for support for Neuvi. Or any other on-fielder. Cause Noelle is always an on-fielder, yes. And she is great with Furina.
@@putent9623 I didn't say that she would be good for Niv and Furina team. You are right there. But saying that there is no geo healer is just stupid. Despite being Noelle main you still haven't discovered 100% of her potential. Despite her main role being DPS, from experience (my own and others) I know she is capable of effectively healing entire teams in 12th floor of abyss which is currently hardest content in game. You don't need more heals then that. But you are correct that she needs to be onfield to do that
@@mattmantrell5708Dmg per screenshot face ahh Furina's damage on top of Neuvillette's while somewhat making up for the talent stack loss is what makes this a crazy combo
I came here because of the thumbnail 😂❤️ I don't think Neuvillette at c0 is bad with her. Mine got better. Use them with a cryo or dendro healer with Kazuha
Honestly it really doesnt matter, You can just run Jean/diona or Jean/zhongli as a temporary solution people that weren't able to get neuvulliete C1. Hell even layla would work. Sure you might lose some damage from lack of third stack but furina will likely make up for it even if she doesnt entirely the game is easy enough it makes no difference.
Also, beidou is a great off fielder for Neuvillette, also providing resistance to interruption and good AOE off-field dmg. At C6 she also provides a dmg buff to electro units and creates a shield.
@@QweRtyUioPaSDfGhjKlZXCvBNM_how much er that beidou need as solo electro? 160 is not enough, 200% is still not enough, maybe 280/300? beidou as a shielder for neuv is just copium bro, she is useless besides taser team
Wriothesley's c1 is better 200% CA dmg is crazy, also it can stand without other characters to solidify it, he can work with any teams, he can also work with furina.
@@chaosinfernoid9008objectively speaking, neuvillettes C1 is in average 30% more dps. He gets the highest tier of super armor, aka no interruption aka in worse case scenario neuvillette gets interrupted and loses 50% of his dmg aka if he gets interrupted then his C1 is now over 45% dmg increase. It is objectively broken. Wriothesley C1 is at most between 20-25% hu tao is in that same ball park and even then, it only applies to sweats who actually can squeeze out 2 more charge attacks with dash cancel (a lot of people can't lol). Naw, your brain washed if you neuv C1 is worse than those 2.
@@putent9623 It's not only a Dps increase it also lets him use the Charge more often and Heals him way easier. It's literally busted, what are you talking about.
So you: - tested Furina with Favonius Sword on a team that has low ER requirements, heavily limiting her damage - had her at level 6 talents when she's a sub DPS that heavily out-damages Fischl at equal investment in this team - didn't test Kazuha + Baizhu/Charlotte, who are team-wide healers with resistance to interruption/freeze - didn't compare the overall team DPS and rotation length - didn't test a Furina team with a healer from the second rotation onwards, as you'll have built more HP loss for the healer to heal and gain more Fanfare stacks - again, compared a (presumably) invested C6 Fischl to an extremely uninvested C0 Furina And still put clickbait in your video such as "WORSE THAN FISCHL," "BIGGEST TRAP EVER," and "She's exclusive for C1 Neuvillette and above only." As someone who's been watching for a while, I'm disappointed in this rushed comparison and I hope that this isn't the direction this channel goes.
1. There is no better DPS weapon for Furina unless you pay money. The only 4* Hp sword is a limited weapon. The event sword is not available for most people. The pipe has 16% more Crit Rate, but my Furina already has 90% Crit because my artifacts are quite nice. 2. I’m only comparing Neuvillette’s damage in this video because he is the main damage dealer. Both Fischl and Furina does damage, yes, but nothing comparable to what Neuvillette does, especially in AOE situation. Also, I’ve already said Furina at full build (double crown) will buff Neuvillette around 15% more, and I’ve already included this number in the showcase. If I didn’t consider it, this comparison will be even more one-sided for Fischl. 3. Baizhu/Charlotte doesn’t buff Neuvillette damage at all, except for gaining stacks just a bit quicker which caps at 75% DMG bonus. I’ve mentioned Zhongli has 35% DMG Bonus with -20% Resist Shred. Trading out Zhongli for any healer will just yield a worse result no matter who you bring. Trading Kazuha for Anemo Healer Jean is already the best option because you only lose 40% DMG Bonus instead of 35% DMG bonus + 20% resist shred + shield. 4. I have compared the rotation duration in my first comparison. I started the rotation at the same time for both sides. Fischl is just a bit faster, but nothing game-changing. If I’m being bias I’ll straight-up mention Fischl has quicker rotation, hence even more DPS. 5. From second rotation onward, you gain stacks a bit faster, but it’s still weaker than no-healing version because Zhongli+Kazuha’s buff is incredibly strong. 6. My Furina has a very well build, better than Fischl. 40k Hp without Hydro Resonance, 90/136 Crit. You can check it in the video. Again, like I said I only compared Neuvillette’s Damage. I counted every instance of CA his damage and make an average out of it. If you don’t believe me, it’s fine. I’m just making a comparison between Furina and Fischl based on my gameplay and experience, and she turns out to be not that suitable for C0 Neuvillette. Just for you to know, I banned myself for not activating my C3 Neuvillette just to make this comparison for you guys. :)
Yeah he only show one rotation of damage not the whole battle, and also you already use kazuha and zhongli as damage% buffer so it is natural for furina buff to get dilute because you overdo it, because they share the same damage bracket
I can affirm that , spended 180 wishes for Neuvillete C1r1 and 150 wishes for furina c0 losing the 50 50 ofc. And my Neuvillete is a beast , with jean and zhongli my ca is around 50 - 60 k
i use neuve, kuki, kazuha, and zhongli, and neuve damge is around 24-28k but when i replace kuki with furina the damage isn't THAT much different 25-29k BUT now i have furina own damage
this is true in the narrow case of having c0 furina, c0 neuvilette, both kazuha and zhongli, and presumes you have very good execution to keep up all 3 stacks on neuvillette.
Here are all the reasons (I could think of, at least) why this video is incorrect! :3 1. With Neuvillette, he drains and regains HP, adding to Furina's fanfare. By doing this, she should get around max fanfare stacks with Furina's skill active. Which is a (at level 6) 51% DMG increase. Compared to Fischl, who only attacks with 80% of her attack and has a 5-second Electro application ICD. 2. Not everyone has C6 Fischl! I've been playing for over a YEAR and STILL only have C3 Fischl. Plenty of my friends don't have C6 Fischl and this video assumes you have C6 Fischl. The main part of her kit is her A4 passive. 3. I could be wrong here, but putting Archaic Petra on Zhongli is honestly... Kind of dumb. I mean, sure, you get a damage buff, but then his shield gets a whole lot squishier. The 20% HP buff from Tenacity of the Millileth is pretty huge and the 4 PC should buff himself and one other person (if they scale off of ATK%). Also, the shield strength buff helps a whole lot. 4. With a healer, like Jean, paired with Furina, Neuvillette's A4 passive should keep his hydro DMG pretty high, even with Furina's HP drain. Let's assume that you have Furina on healing mode instead and don't have Jean paired. (I have my Furina on triple HP artifacts because I just find her damage and healing to be balanced out this way.) If you have her built on triple HP, she could outheal your Neuvi's damage and still add to- and even max out- her fanfare stacks. That's everything I could think off, lmk if y'all think of anything else :3
I have tested my old neuvillette best team and with furina and they are both the same for me. but I use Furina + Charlotte and they are still far from complete. thanks for your info anyway. i also agree that using xiang ling with Neuvillette is a great choice
I mean its almost as if Neuvs C1 was designed with Furina in mind or something? But in all seriousness, how is anyone surprised at this? A cursory glance at Neuvs kit would've told you that. But the actually interesting part is that despite losing his third stack, and losing out on Kazuha, the Furina varient is still BARELY lower than Fischl. And this is ignoring Baizhu who solves the Zhongli issue outright. Literally any vertical investment in either Furina or Neuv and the pair shoot up like mad.
My taser neuvi is doing 40k-70k CA in the abyss cos im using Wanderers troupe(35% CA) u can easily get 3 stacks. Ill just use furina hyperbloom, cos at this point i can just solo run neuvi in abyss.
I have been heavily disappointed by furina as I thought she was gonna be a good support for neuv. After testing for the last 2 days, ive realised there is no alternative to pulling c1 neuv. Too many people letting their emotions blind them from actual maths.
@@noe4354 she is a buffer yes but due to how nuev's kit works,you can get two stacks on him, "125%" instead of the three stacks which is "160%" (Check Neuv's talents from ingame). LIke sure she is buffing and it cancels out the lost stack which is huge but the increase from what neuv was doing without her isn't that huge. I will say though that it is more of a neuv issue than furina but I hate how he is limited by his "best" buffer. Getting the c1 and then the three stacks is insane and the dmg increase is mind boggling. Look up some neuv c1 furina c0 runs and you will know what the difference between two and three stacks does. I will admit that initially I was just thinking "Oh but she could've buffed more" but now I realise that her buff is justified it's just neuv's kit should have synergized better. Sorry for the long response. TLDR: I hate how limited buff furina gives to neuv but it is his fault.
Can't you use neuv, furina, jean, and then beidou, who works with him, is very similar to fischl, and has a shield equivalent to 16% of her hp (~3200 if she has 20k hp)+knockback resistance+35% dmg reduction? AND beidou's ult can hit way more enemies, and neuvillette can too. And neuvillette attacks so fast that beidou's ult will get max value and activate more often. So there would be way more elemental reactions. (I have both c6, I would put beidou on r5 rainslasher and fischl on r3 stringless)
So, of course this only matters if you have a c6 Fischl... I'm wondering if the new healing set coming out will change anything for c0 Neuvilette+c0 Furina.
It doesn't really matter because Furina gives more of a buff to Neuvillette than him having 3 stacks instead of 2. Furina gives up to 75% bonus dmg but the gap between Neuvillette's 2nd and 3rd stacks is only 35% bonus dmg. Also Jean could replace Kazuha even with Kazuha's EM buff because Kazuha gives 40% elemental dmg bonus at 1000 EM, the same gap between Furina's buff and Neuvillette's 3rd stack, so both teams should perform about the same. Furina also does lots of dmg with her skill so that helps the team too, but honestly it doesnt really matter.
I mean shes not a massive increase at c0 neuv but shes definitely there once you get that c1 assuming you even remotely like Neuv, since his c1 is better then most units in the game and Furina plus his c1 is stonks.
Easy answer, run a healer. Why is that so difficult? Theres plenty of healers who can give can decent damage and elemental reactions to support Neuvillette.
Bruh, did you not think before commenting this (no offence). Its literally impossible to get his third without all three of his teammates being different elements. Secondly the problem is not a healer. The problem is that he gets knocked off of his CA easily. It's like you didn't watch the video hence why I said what I said at the start 😅
@@putent9623 Does Diona no longer exist? How about Baizhu? There are many healers of different elements, as well as shielders. Not to mention Furina herself is a healer. I watched the video, and the logic is shit. Let's take my day one Furina and compare her to my c6 invested Fischl! How does that make any logical sense to you?
@@RandomLyneysimp wait you don't get what I'm saying. Neuvillete passive gives him 110%, 125% and 160% for each hydro related elemental reaction that is triggered in the team. As you can guess, in a team with neuvillette, furina, baizhu and diona. Only freeze and hyperbloom can be triggered, that's 2 reactions and not 3, meaning he CANNOT reach his 3rd stack. The difference between the 2nd stack and 3rd stack is 35%, for reference that is like having wriothesley or yoimiya elemental skill go from level 1 to level 10. His draconian stacks are the same multiplier as yoimiya and wriothesley elemental skill, so it is a BIG dmg boost, and it's so big thag if you leveled yoimiya elemental from 1 to 10 it wouldn't even be past 30 I think. So for neuvillette to lose that, it's insane. But furina makes up for it with her buff and personal dmg, but her buff is barely higher than his 3rd stack (like 2k dmg or smn). Now here's my mistake bro, I forgot that baizhu makes a shield so I completely glossed over that. I'm sorry. But again with just the draconian stack, neuvs dmg isn't increased by a noticeable amount with furina, but see tho, furina is still a net positive becuase of her own personal damage. Hence why I will get her for my neuvillette.
Nah you are wrong It's not about big numbers It's about clear time Neuvillette+furina is faster than just neuvillette and that's what matters Btw my neuvillette deals more damage with my properly built furina
haha i was confuse today event why my Neuvilette team up with Furina so low compare to when i play 4 element then this clip pop up😂 My Neuvilette DPS with Furina Kazuha Chalotte max output around 28-31k but with 4 element Neuvilette DPS with Zhongli Kazuha Fischl max output around 44-48k. so Furina c0 can team up with Neuvilette C1 you will have DPS to 50k per hit.
Well, whatever, I got Furina with 31 wishes (Jean at 14 pity and Furina 11 summons later) so I'm not going to complain about having her in my box even if she's not ideal for my C0 Neuvillette. Also, yes, I'm flexing a little but this is the first time I've had luck on Genshin, it's a change from my top 4% of the least lucky players in the Paimon moe database. 🙃
So you lose burst damage which is from Neuvillette, but you get Furina's sustain damage in exchange. C0 Neu + C0 Furina seem bad in killing small mobs and running in overworld, but probably better in killing bosses? Still she's probably better in some other team except you're gonna pull C1 for them.
ive been debating whether to pull c0 furina for my c0 neuvillette and this makes me decide not to pull. gonna save my guaranteed for arlecchino instead
She's a massive team buff to every other unit and still great with C0 Neivillette, as long as there's an aura enemy to give you his 3rd stack. Just saying. Childe was formerly the slot-in for his best paper team, now it's Furina, anemo and an off-field DPS.
Dude she's nuvillatte is doing same damage without his 3rd stake and a buffer with nuvillatte. Also the fact furina is a sub dps and also doing more damage in the back ground. She's a great buff for him.
@@TheArcSet Yall only think about the dmg buff. With Furina you sacrifice so much stuff to run her with C0 Neuvillete, like no longer being able to use kazuha, nahida, xiangling, etc...
Honestly, if you're replacing you're subDPS with a buffer/applicator, it's not that surprising the damage would go down a bit; kind of more surprising it stayed that high. Especially if you didn't have Neuvillette's 3rd stack. If you can get stack from enemies, or have C1, then she should be a strict upgrade to Childe. But yeah, shieldless and Xiao effect.
Idk what you mean by xiao effect but furina is a sub dps. Just wanted to point that out because your first sentence is wild. Furina is a subdps that does more dps than yelan and a buffer that buffs more than yelan, that's who furina is. She is still good with neuv, he doesn't get his 3rd stack and might get interrupted, but if you can avoid the interruption then him with furina is slightly (very slightly) better than him with 3rd stack for his own damage. Now if we're talking about the entire teams dmg, then him with furina is significantly better than him with fischl, zhongli kazuha combo (granted you don't get interrupted). Tl;Dr because I yap too much - furina is (probably) the best sub dps and neuvs best buffer. Granted that neuv does not get interrupted (huge loss in dps), furina with neuv (because she does a lot of dps) is better than neuv with 3rd stack.
Your first line is wrong As the above commenter said, furina is a subdps Surprisingly there are people who are unaware of her being a sub dps She deals great damage
Neuvillete C1 with Furina is a massive damage team is crazy. You only need a constelation is like c2 Shogun without c2 you dont have the BEST team in the game.Also in the video it says that Furina's ulti is at 6. If you crown the ulti it is 24 percent more damage and if you have Furina's c1 it is even more
pull furina to buff neuvilette? ❌
pull furina to give neuvilette company ☑
FRR
they come in pair. do not separate
Thank you, I got really scared for a moment
It’s not always just abt the damage
"There is no geo healer"
Despite being one of first characters you get in genshin people still act like Noelle doesn't exist (and yes, she can fully heal your entire team just by holding charged attack)
you lose dps when you on field noelle, better use proto amber ningguang
There is still no geo healer. Noelle has a hard time healing plus she us on field so you can't even use her within the context of this video - a noelle main
@@putent9623 'hard time healing' LMAO... Don't spread such misinformation. You are only right that Omega was right - in context of looking for support for Neuvi. Or any other on-fielder. Cause Noelle is always an on-fielder, yes. And she is great with Furina.
@@putent9623 I didn't say that she would be good for Niv and Furina team. You are right there.
But saying that there is no geo healer is just stupid. Despite being Noelle main you still haven't discovered 100% of her potential. Despite her main role being DPS, from experience (my own and others) I know she is capable of effectively healing entire teams in 12th floor of abyss which is currently hardest content in game. You don't need more heals then that. But you are correct that she needs to be onfield to do that
Now xilonen exists 😂
never cook again 🗣️🙏🏽💯
Hurts to see the truth?
Haha these ppl expect too much and got slap by reality
@@mattmantrell5708Dmg per screenshot face ahh
Furina's damage on top of Neuvillette's while somewhat making up for the talent stack loss is what makes this a crazy combo
I came here because of the thumbnail 😂❤️
I don't think Neuvillette at c0 is bad with her. Mine got better. Use them with a cryo or dendro healer with Kazuha
NaH for c0 it's worst
U won't get 3stacks
Most dont want to hear it but fontaine is a place where if you want good synergy you either have to be lucky or spend money
Honestly it really doesnt matter, You can just run Jean/diona or Jean/zhongli as a temporary solution people that weren't able to get neuvulliete C1. Hell even layla would work. Sure you might lose some damage from lack of third stack but furina will likely make up for it even if she doesnt entirely the game is easy enough it makes no difference.
Also, beidou is a great off fielder for Neuvillette, also providing resistance to interruption and good AOE off-field dmg. At C6 she also provides a dmg buff to electro units and creates a shield.
@@QweRtyUioPaSDfGhjKlZXCvBNM_how much er that beidou need as solo electro? 160 is not enough, 200% is still not enough, maybe 280/300? beidou as a shielder for neuv is just copium bro, she is useless besides taser team
@@seth-eh4fpmaybe dehya could work ig
We shouldn't forget that Furina has his own good dmg that she actually boosts too
my brother in christ never cook again .
truth hurts ay?
@@Magmasucksatlife those rotations did.
way more.
this further solidifies Neuvillette's C1 as the most busted C1 in the game
Still really glad I got it mostly for the greater team flexibility, just a shame I lost the 50/50 on Furina lmao
Wriothsely and Hu Tao say no
Wriothesley's c1 is better 200% CA dmg is crazy, also it can stand without other characters to solidify it, he can work with any teams, he can also work with furina.
@@chaosinfernoid9008objectively speaking, neuvillettes C1 is in average 30% more dps. He gets the highest tier of super armor, aka no interruption aka in worse case scenario neuvillette gets interrupted and loses 50% of his dmg aka if he gets interrupted then his C1 is now over 45% dmg increase.
It is objectively broken. Wriothesley C1 is at most between 20-25% hu tao is in that same ball park and even then, it only applies to sweats who actually can squeeze out 2 more charge attacks with dash cancel (a lot of people can't lol).
Naw, your brain washed if you neuv C1 is worse than those 2.
@@putent9623
It's not only a Dps increase it also lets him use the Charge more often and Heals him way easier. It's literally busted, what are you talking about.
So you:
- tested Furina with Favonius Sword on a team that has low ER requirements, heavily limiting her damage
- had her at level 6 talents when she's a sub DPS that heavily out-damages Fischl at equal investment in this team
- didn't test Kazuha + Baizhu/Charlotte, who are team-wide healers with resistance to interruption/freeze
- didn't compare the overall team DPS and rotation length
- didn't test a Furina team with a healer from the second rotation onwards, as you'll have built more HP loss for the healer to heal and gain more Fanfare stacks
- again, compared a (presumably) invested C6 Fischl to an extremely uninvested C0 Furina
And still put clickbait in your video such as "WORSE THAN FISCHL," "BIGGEST TRAP EVER," and "She's exclusive for C1 Neuvillette and above only." As someone who's been watching for a while, I'm disappointed in this rushed comparison and I hope that this isn't the direction this channel goes.
1. There is no better DPS weapon for Furina unless you pay money. The only 4* Hp sword is a limited weapon. The event sword is not available for most people. The pipe has 16% more Crit Rate, but my Furina already has 90% Crit because my artifacts are quite nice.
2. I’m only comparing Neuvillette’s damage in this video because he is the main damage dealer. Both Fischl and Furina does damage, yes, but nothing comparable to what Neuvillette does, especially in AOE situation.
Also, I’ve already said Furina at full build (double crown) will buff Neuvillette around 15% more, and I’ve already included this number in the showcase. If I didn’t consider it, this comparison will be even more one-sided for Fischl.
3. Baizhu/Charlotte doesn’t buff Neuvillette damage at all, except for gaining stacks just a bit quicker which caps at 75% DMG bonus. I’ve mentioned Zhongli has 35% DMG Bonus with -20% Resist Shred. Trading out Zhongli for any healer will just yield a worse result no matter who you bring. Trading Kazuha for Anemo Healer Jean is already the best option because you only lose 40% DMG Bonus instead of 35% DMG bonus + 20% resist shred + shield.
4. I have compared the rotation duration in my first comparison. I started the rotation at the same time for both sides. Fischl is just a bit faster, but nothing game-changing. If I’m being bias I’ll straight-up mention Fischl has quicker rotation, hence even more DPS.
5. From second rotation onward, you gain stacks a bit faster, but it’s still weaker than no-healing version because Zhongli+Kazuha’s buff is incredibly strong.
6. My Furina has a very well build, better than Fischl. 40k Hp without Hydro Resonance, 90/136 Crit. You can check it in the video. Again, like I said I only compared Neuvillette’s Damage. I counted every instance of CA his damage and make an average out of it.
If you don’t believe me, it’s fine. I’m just making a comparison between Furina and Fischl based on my gameplay and experience, and she turns out to be not that suitable for C0 Neuvillette. Just for you to know, I banned myself for not activating my C3 Neuvillette just to make this comparison for you guys. :)
@@OmegaXIINo better DPS weapon? Would the hp sword not work on her? Or how about Black Cliff since you can get that from the shop.
Yeah he only show one rotation of damage not the whole battle, and also you already use kazuha and zhongli as damage% buffer so it is natural for furina buff to get dilute because you overdo it, because they share the same damage bracket
@@OmegaXIIshe hit like a truck and deal aoe damage.
I think you can adjust your cdmg to fit the fishing sword
that's about Neuvilette personal damage , but what about team damage with Furina ?
I tested it
Overall team damage is higher with furina
@@grass_rock same for me
So yeah, his personal dmg is slightly lower but the team overall dmg is higher. Sounds good to me
furina in this video had level 6 talents
surely furina with higher talent levels can be better@@matsu368
Neuvi c1 with weapon with furina is the best combo on of the best c1 of the game i think with the arrived of furina
I can affirm that , spended 180 wishes for Neuvillete C1r1 and 150 wishes for furina c0 losing the 50 50 ofc. And my Neuvillete is a beast , with jean and zhongli my ca is around 50 - 60 k
i use neuve, kuki, kazuha, and zhongli, and neuve damge is around 24-28k but when i replace kuki with furina the damage isn't THAT much different 25-29k BUT now i have furina own damage
this is true in the narrow case of having c0 furina, c0 neuvilette, both kazuha and zhongli, and presumes you have very good execution to keep up all 3 stacks on neuvillette.
U won't get 3 stacks at c0
Here are all the reasons (I could think of, at least) why this video is incorrect! :3
1. With Neuvillette, he drains and regains HP, adding to Furina's fanfare. By doing this, she should get around max fanfare stacks with Furina's skill active. Which is a (at level 6) 51% DMG increase. Compared to Fischl, who only attacks with 80% of her attack and has a 5-second Electro application ICD.
2. Not everyone has C6 Fischl! I've been playing for over a YEAR and STILL only have C3 Fischl. Plenty of my friends don't have C6 Fischl and this video assumes you have C6 Fischl. The main part of her kit is her A4 passive.
3. I could be wrong here, but putting Archaic Petra on Zhongli is honestly... Kind of dumb. I mean, sure, you get a damage buff, but then his shield gets a whole lot squishier. The 20% HP buff from Tenacity of the Millileth is pretty huge and the 4 PC should buff himself and one other person (if they scale off of ATK%). Also, the shield strength buff helps a whole lot.
4. With a healer, like Jean, paired with Furina, Neuvillette's A4 passive should keep his hydro DMG pretty high, even with Furina's HP drain. Let's assume that you have Furina on healing mode instead and don't have Jean paired. (I have my Furina on triple HP artifacts because I just find her damage and healing to be balanced out this way.) If you have her built on triple HP, she could outheal your Neuvi's damage and still add to- and even max out- her fanfare stacks.
That's everything I could think off, lmk if y'all think of anything else :3
I have tested my old neuvillette best team and with furina and they are both the same for me. but I use Furina + Charlotte and they are still far from complete. thanks for your info anyway. i also agree that using xiang ling with Neuvillette is a great choice
You can keep Furina&Jean just swapping Fischl for Beidou and still got a shield.
C0 neuvillate and C0 furina havers here
It’s worth it my neuvillate team have 15K damage before furina now my neuvillate have 22 - 24K damage
Bro use xianling or vape with furina and neuvillate beast mode
I mean its almost as if Neuvs C1 was designed with Furina in mind or something? But in all seriousness, how is anyone surprised at this? A cursory glance at Neuvs kit would've told you that. But the actually interesting part is that despite losing his third stack, and losing out on Kazuha, the Furina varient is still BARELY lower than Fischl. And this is ignoring Baizhu who solves the Zhongli issue outright. Literally any vertical investment in either Furina or Neuv and the pair shoot up like mad.
I'll have to wait till his re-run to pull cons.
What would be Neuvillette's best c0 team rn?
@@Ananta9817 Nothing too crazy. Fischl/Kazuha/Dehya or Zhongli or go Nahida/Raiden for Hyperbloom
@@thegamewoods8473 I've mostly been loving his hyperburgeon with Dehya, Nahida and Raiden. Not sure what team is best with Fischl.
My taser neuvi is doing 40k-70k CA in the abyss cos im using Wanderers troupe(35% CA) u can easily get 3 stacks. Ill just use furina hyperbloom, cos at this point i can just solo run neuvi in abyss.
I have been heavily disappointed by furina as I thought she was gonna be a good support for neuv. After testing for the last 2 days, ive realised there is no alternative to pulling c1 neuv. Too many people letting their emotions blind them from actual maths.
She literally is tho
@@noe4354 she is a buffer yes but due to how nuev's kit works,you can get two stacks on him, "125%" instead of the three stacks which is "160%" (Check Neuv's talents from ingame). LIke sure she is buffing and it cancels out the lost stack which is huge but the increase from what neuv was doing without her isn't that huge. I will say though that it is more of a neuv issue than furina but I hate how he is limited by his "best" buffer. Getting the c1 and then the three stacks is insane and the dmg increase is mind boggling. Look up some neuv c1 furina c0 runs and you will know what the difference between two and three stacks does. I will admit that initially I was just thinking "Oh but she could've buffed more" but now I realise that her buff is justified it's just neuv's kit should have synergized better. Sorry for the long response.
TLDR: I hate how limited buff furina gives to neuv but it is his fault.
I'm never know he said no geo healer.... But Noelle still there waiting to serve you....
Poor noelle
this video is only applicable to meta players if you wanna get furina because you want to then pull for her
If you know how to read its pretty much as clear as water
ok but can we talk about the thumbnail? helloo? ??!!
Yes. It's beautiful ❤
Yes, they look stunning together ❣️
Yeah it's amazing
Yes, amazing focallette art
Can't you use neuv, furina, jean, and then beidou, who works with him, is very similar to fischl, and has a shield equivalent to 16% of her hp (~3200 if she has 20k hp)+knockback resistance+35% dmg reduction? AND beidou's ult can hit way more enemies, and neuvillette can too. And neuvillette attacks so fast that beidou's ult will get max value and activate more often. So there would be way more elemental reactions. (I have both c6, I would put beidou on r5 rainslasher and fischl on r3 stringless)
So, of course this only matters if you have a c6 Fischl... I'm wondering if the new healing set coming out will change anything for c0 Neuvilette+c0 Furina.
It doesn't really matter because Furina gives more of a buff to Neuvillette than him having 3 stacks instead of 2. Furina gives up to 75% bonus dmg but the gap between Neuvillette's 2nd and 3rd stacks is only 35% bonus dmg. Also Jean could replace Kazuha even with Kazuha's EM buff because Kazuha gives 40% elemental dmg bonus at 1000 EM, the same gap between Furina's buff and Neuvillette's 3rd stack, so both teams should perform about the same. Furina also does lots of dmg with her skill so that helps the team too, but honestly it doesnt really matter.
Bro don't create ur own happiness
Believe me use 3 stacks at c0
U will be better
If C1 go for furina not at c0
Thumbnail source? 👀
I mean shes not a massive increase at c0 neuv but shes definitely there once you get that c1 assuming you even remotely like Neuv, since his c1 is better then most units in the game and Furina plus his c1 is stonks.
Furina c0 with neuvillette is still good i think..
@@francescoettwedda-1875yes she is
Her personal damage greatly increases overall team damage
I see. Kazuha getting swapped out was the problem. I don't have kazuha.
what if you use prototype amber for neuvi ?
Easy answer, run a healer. Why is that so difficult? Theres plenty of healers who can give can decent damage and elemental reactions to support Neuvillette.
Bruh, did you not think before commenting this (no offence). Its literally impossible to get his third without all three of his teammates being different elements.
Secondly the problem is not a healer. The problem is that he gets knocked off of his CA easily. It's like you didn't watch the video hence why I said what I said at the start 😅
@@putent9623 Does Diona no longer exist? How about Baizhu? There are many healers of different elements, as well as shielders. Not to mention Furina herself is a healer. I watched the video, and the logic is shit. Let's take my day one Furina and compare her to my c6 invested Fischl! How does that make any logical sense to you?
@@RandomLyneysimp wait you don't get what I'm saying.
Neuvillete passive gives him 110%, 125% and 160% for each hydro related elemental reaction that is triggered in the team. As you can guess, in a team with neuvillette, furina, baizhu and diona. Only freeze and hyperbloom can be triggered, that's 2 reactions and not 3, meaning he CANNOT reach his 3rd stack. The difference between the 2nd stack and 3rd stack is 35%, for reference that is like having wriothesley or yoimiya elemental skill go from level 1 to level 10.
His draconian stacks are the same multiplier as yoimiya and wriothesley elemental skill, so it is a BIG dmg boost, and it's so big thag if you leveled yoimiya elemental from 1 to 10 it wouldn't even be past 30 I think. So for neuvillette to lose that, it's insane. But furina makes up for it with her buff and personal dmg, but her buff is barely higher than his 3rd stack (like 2k dmg or smn).
Now here's my mistake bro, I forgot that baizhu makes a shield so I completely glossed over that. I'm sorry. But again with just the draconian stack, neuvs dmg isn't increased by a noticeable amount with furina, but see tho, furina is still a net positive becuase of her own personal damage. Hence why I will get her for my neuvillette.
bro if u want to use kazuha just go baizhu instead zhongli and all done
Nah you are wrong
It's not about big numbers
It's about clear time
Neuvillette+furina is faster than just neuvillette and that's what matters
Btw my neuvillette deals more damage with my properly built furina
This team is thest at c0
Furina
Neuvillate
Xianling
Any vv user like jean
never cook again
How about Neuvillette, Furina, Kazuha and Baizhu?
thats what i use
perfect team
I left a like just for the NeuviFuri thumbnail hahaha
haha i was confuse today event why my Neuvilette team up with Furina so low compare to when i play 4 element then this clip pop up😂
My Neuvilette DPS with Furina Kazuha Chalotte max output around 28-31k
but with 4 element Neuvilette DPS with Zhongli Kazuha Fischl max output around 44-48k.
so Furina c0 can team up with Neuvilette C1 you will have DPS to 50k per hit.
The team with furina is better because furina do more dmg
Well, whatever, I got Furina with 31 wishes (Jean at 14 pity and Furina 11 summons later) so I'm not going to complain about having her in my box even if she's not ideal for my C0 Neuvillette.
Also, yes, I'm flexing a little but this is the first time I've had luck on Genshin, it's a change from my top 4% of the least lucky players in the Paimon moe database. 🙃
You can still use them in abyss, you just want to be sure there's an enemy that can give you the 3rd reaction for Neuvillette.
mihoyo is forcing more people to go for c1, c2,or even c6. c6 farina seems really strong though
C6 Nahida is prolly strongest character in the game furina who 🤣
@@chaosinfernoid9008Cope
I love this dou sm 😭❣️
Neuvillete pls rerun quickly
Mine hit 50k because of furina and without neuv sign
So you lose burst damage which is from Neuvillette, but you get Furina's sustain damage in exchange. C0 Neu + C0 Furina seem bad in killing small mobs and running in overworld, but probably better in killing bosses? Still she's probably better in some other team except you're gonna pull C1 for them.
ive been debating whether to pull c0 furina for my c0 neuvillette and this makes me decide not to pull. gonna save my guaranteed for arlecchino instead
She's a massive team buff to every other unit and still great with C0 Neivillette, as long as there's an aura enemy to give you his 3rd stack.
Just saying. Childe was formerly the slot-in for his best paper team, now it's Furina, anemo and an off-field DPS.
Dude she's nuvillatte is doing same damage without his 3rd stake and a buffer with nuvillatte. Also the fact furina is a sub dps and also doing more damage in the back ground. She's a great buff for him.
She is a must pull Arlecchino doesn't even know what he's doing or when he'll come out, so don't worry.
@@Charlucas
LEAKERS said 4.6 so quite a while xD But If someone wants a C2 or something they better start saving.
@@TheArcSet Yall only think about the dmg buff. With Furina you sacrifice so much stuff to run her with C0 Neuvillete, like no longer being able to use kazuha, nahida, xiangling, etc...
what if my fischl is only c3 and have no zhongli and still want to get Furina?
This video aged badly
Do u know how nuvilet passive work
I think u don't
Honestly, if you're replacing you're subDPS with a buffer/applicator, it's not that surprising the damage would go down a bit; kind of more surprising it stayed that high.
Especially if you didn't have Neuvillette's 3rd stack.
If you can get stack from enemies, or have C1, then she should be a strict upgrade to Childe. But yeah, shieldless and Xiao effect.
Idk what you mean by xiao effect but furina is a sub dps. Just wanted to point that out because your first sentence is wild. Furina is a subdps that does more dps than yelan and a buffer that buffs more than yelan, that's who furina is. She is still good with neuv, he doesn't get his 3rd stack and might get interrupted, but if you can avoid the interruption then him with furina is slightly (very slightly) better than him with 3rd stack for his own damage.
Now if we're talking about the entire teams dmg, then him with furina is significantly better than him with fischl, zhongli kazuha combo (granted you don't get interrupted).
Tl;Dr because I yap too much - furina is (probably) the best sub dps and neuvs best buffer. Granted that neuv does not get interrupted (huge loss in dps), furina with neuv (because she does a lot of dps) is better than neuv with 3rd stack.
Your first line is wrong
As the above commenter said, furina is a subdps
Surprisingly there are people who are unaware of her being a sub dps
She deals great damage
Uh mika? Charlotte?
can't understand shut you're saying sorry
There's no energy issue for xiangling? Asking since I'm not neuvillette haver haha
If you stack the crap out of Xiangling on ER and Crit Rate, with Favonius, she has no energy issue at all. ^^
All people talkin about furina and neuvillete gona be a massiva damge but now was a big bait
Neuvillete C1 with Furina is a massive damage team is crazy. You only need a constelation is like c2 Shogun without c2 you dont have the BEST team in the game.Also in the video it says that Furina's ulti is at 6. If you crown the ulti it is 24 percent more damage and if you have Furina's c1 it is even more
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Huh