He also said that the Paraclete would be with the apostles forever, but the prophet of the Arab god was not born until 500 years later, so obviously he was not with them forever.
Before anybody comes with nonsense. Kletos is defined as endoxos in classical Greek dictionaries. Also kleitos which means praised in classical Greek was spelled interchangeable in classical Greek. Evident from the Plutarch manuscripts or directly of grammarians lexicons explaining the spelling kletos as endoxos glorified. Also kletos is used in this meaning in titles like telekletos, polykletos, perikletos, dourikletos. Endoxos glorified glory doxa is used in the translation of hmd of Arabic.
The one spouting nonsense is you. Open Liddell & Scott, the standard authoritative classical Greek-English dictionary. Kleitos means called, and para means "at", "beside", "alongside of", "by". Jesus said HE would send the parakletos. You think Jesus sent Mohammed??? If "Parakletos" means Mohammed, then Jesus sent ANOTHER Mohammed. Who was the first Mohammed? Jesus said the parakletos would be IN his disciples. Mohammed was in a lot of women. Was he in Jesus's disciples 6 centuries before he was born???
In that sense it means "heard of" as in famous or "called on" as in appointed. Translating it as "glory" is a massive stretch. It is indeed associated with glory as in "fame and glory" but it means fame not glory. Either way translating it as "praised" is a no-go. In Arabic Kletos as in "heard of" is shuhra, sumea or mudalil. Kletos as in "appointed" or "called" is musamman.
@@Abduzzah_Abdul_Muṭṭalib it is described as such in classical lexicons (endoxos) also kletos can be derived from kleo which means to praise kleitos kletos were interchangeable in spelling. Kleos is translated as glory/praise. You confuse it with kaleo
From, Who Is The "Comforter"? REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT TEXTS First, let the New Testament texts speak for themselves. They clearly state that the Comforter is the Holy Spirit. There is no ambiguity about this. Consequently Muhammad is not the Comforter based upon what the Bible explicitly states. Second let us take the context of the texts into account. If you are going to understand any passage of Scripture you must understand its context. When Jesus spoke these words in John it was His last ministerial time with His disciples prior to His death, crucifixion, and resurrection. Jesus is being very intimate with them. Understand then, when he speaks to them He is including them - these very disciples, specifically. These are the men He knew best and loved; they were His friends. These were His final words to them, and He wanted them to know what was in store. Therefore, knowing that these passages of John are being spoken intimately between Jesus and His disciples there are several key points we can discover concerning the Comforter and His relationship with Jesus’ disciples. John 14:16 - And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth. The Comforter will be with these disciples forever. Jesus promised the Comforter would be with these disciples forever. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he wasn't born until over 500 years later - following the deaths of these disciples. He was born around 570 and died around 632 AD. John 14:17 - But you know him for he lives with you and will be in you. The Comforter lives with the disciples already now and will later be 'in' them. The Holy Spirit came to the disciples and indwelt them. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because first he wasn't around at the time when Jesus was speaking to his disciples nor second could he ever be in any of the disciples. The Greek word is 'en', and it means 'right inside'. Jesus is saying that the Comforter will be 'right inside' of the disciples. John 14:26 - The Comforter is specifically described as the Holy Spirit. The Comforter is not a man. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he was never the Holy Spirit. John 14:26 - The Comforter will be sent in Jesus' name. The Holy Spirit represented the Lord on earth. No Muslim believes that Muhammad was sent by God in Jesus name. Muhammad did not come in Jesus' name, as the apostle of Jesus, rather he came in his own name with his own questionable “revelations”. John 14:26 - But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." The Comforter will teach these disciples and remind them of what Christ said to them. As the early Christians grew the Holy Spirit taught them. Muhammad is not the Comforter because he never knew the disciples and he didn't teach these disciples, and Muhammad never reminded the disciples of what Christ said. John 15:26 - When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me. The Comforter would be sent to these disciples. These disciples received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. Muhammad was never sent to these disciples. John 16:13 - But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. The Comforter will guide these disciples into all truth. These disciples (and others) grew in the knowledge of God through the revelations from the Holy Spirit. Muhammad never guided these disciples into any truth. John 16:13 - He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. The Comforter will speak to these disciples. These disciples grew to know the leading of the Holy Spirit, i.e. they knew His voice. Muhammad never spoke to these disciples. John 16:14 - He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you. The Comforter will take from Jesus and make it known to the disciples. Muhammad never knew Jesus and never took from Jesus and made it known to anyone. The context of these passages shows clearly that Muhammad could not be the Comforter. Jesus was not speaking of another person to come at a later date. Jesus’ precious final words to His disciples were meant for them. Jesus was not merely preaching a sermon to be analyzed and intellectually talked about through the centuries, rather, He was giving His the disciples with Him there His final commands, love, and encouragement. Here's a question for you to consider: In Islamic theology, Muhammad rendered Jesus’ message fulfilled or ended because Muhammad brought God’s latest message to the people. Muhammad expected that true believers in God would accept Islam. Therefore, if Jesus was foretelling Muhammad, wouldn’t Jesus be prophesying that his ministry will be rendered void by the Paraclete? Read the context of the passages and decide. Further, to fulfill exactly what Jesus foretold concerning the Comforter and His relationship with the disciples, the New Testament records the fulfillment of the coming of the Holy Spirit and the disciples receiving Him. The disciples received the Comforter - the Holy Spirit, on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:3, 4. The Comforter was now “in” the disciples and He remained “in” them from then on and taught them - just as Jesus had said He would.
This Muslim is trying to understand and explain spiritual things with his cardinal mind or he is lying and purposely trying to confuse Christian’s to make them accept his devil cult Either way this will not work on a a person that has a relationship with God Jesus said my sheep know my voice and a stranger they will not follow know God for yourself and you will not be deceived
That's their doctrinal creed: *Quran 2:225* "Allah will NOT call you to account for _thoughtlessness_ in your *OATHS,* but for the intention in your *hearts."* *Qur'an 3:54* “Then they deceived, and Allah countered their deceptions by deceptions of His own. Allah is the best of *DECEIVER”* *Qur'an 2:106* “If We ABROGATE a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We *REPLACE* it with a better or similar one. Do you not know that Allah is Most Capable of everything?” *Qur'an 4:82* “Do they not ponder about the Qur’an? Had it been from any other than Allah, they would surely have found in it much *INCONSISTENCIES.”* *Qur'an 15:9* "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian." Thus it is not Our Messenger whom you are _calling_ *INSANE* but in fact this abusive remark applies to _us._ *Qur'an 16:101* “When We replace a verse with another and Allah knows best what He reveals - they say, “You ˹Muḥammad˺ are just a *FABRICATOR* In fact, most of them do not know.”
@@Abduzzah_Abdul_Muṭṭalib p66 has not all descriptions of the Paraclete. Christians may use as a contention but even if it were there is no problem with the interpretation. Montanus Mani claimed to be the Paraclete. Paul was also to be thought as the Paraclete. This shows that 1. The Paraclete was a central teaching of the historical Jesus 2. The earliest Christians didn't think it was the holy spirit. Tertullian was a follower of the montanus movement. Augustine was for 9 years a follower of the Mani movement. Paul was also claimed to be the Paraclete
John 14 says he will be in you. This verse has nothing to do with your pedo prophet. Leave it alone. You’re going to end up in hell with Mohammed. Jesus is the only one who saves and you will not go to heaven without the blood of Jesus
If you want to send a letter or money to someone, you need to provide address information to avoid delivering it to the wrong person. If you want people to meet a prophet, you should provide address information to avoid confusion. Something like Number 1, Mecca road, Hejaz. 720 kilometers south east of this city.
My post, A Short Note on 'Muhammad' in the Song of Songs This is something of a departure from my usual material, which is to do with Islam, but seeing as Muslims make this claim, I shall make a brief comment on it. Song 5:14-16 His hands are as rods of gold set [memullaim]with beryl; his body is as polished ivory overlaid with sapphires [sappirim]./ His legs are as pillars of marble, set [meyussadim] upon sockets of fine gold; his aspect is like Lebanon, excellent as the cedars [arazim]./ His mouth is most sweet [mamtaqqim]; yea, he is altogether lovely [machamaddim]. This is my beloved [dodi], and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.' Note the -im endings. Did the author simply continue the ending in verse 16? You will notice the mamtaqqim. Should we understand that this is a reference to some unknown Mamtaq? Let's look at machamaddim. It is derived from the word machmad [biblehub .com/hebrew/4261 .htm] . There is a number of passages that use it. Let's look at some. 1 Kings 20:6 but I will send my servants unto thee tomorrow about this time, and they shall search thy house, and the houses of thy servants; and it shall be, that whatsoever is pleasant [machmad] in thine eyes, they shall put it in their hand, and take it away.' Lamentations 1:10-11 The adversary hath spread out his hand upon all her treasures; for she hath seen that the heathen are entered into her sanctuary, concerning whom Thou didst command that they should not enter into Thy congregation./All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their pleasant things [machamaddeyhem]for food to refresh the soul. 'See, O LORD, and behold, how abject I am become.' Ezekiel 24:16, 21 'Son of man, behold, I take away from thee the desire of [machmad] thine eyes with a stroke; yet neither shalt thou make lamentation nor weep, neither shall thy tears run down. Speak unto the house of Israel: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will profane My sanctuary, the pride of your power, the desire of [machmad] your eyes, and the longing of your soul; and your sons and your daughters whom ye have left behind shall fall by the sword. Hosea 9:6 For, lo, they are gone away from destruction, yet Egypt shall gather them up, Memphis shall bury them; their precious [machmad] treasures of silver, nettles shall possess them, thorns shall be in their tents. 2 Chronicles 36:19 And they burnt the house of God, and broke down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly [machamaddeah] vessels thereof. Isaiah 64:11 Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised Thee, is burned with fire; and all our pleasant things [machamaddenu] are laid waste. You will notice that the word dodi 'my beloved' is used in the well-known verse in the Song. If Muslims are going to go by similarity of sound, why not also look for Dodi (Al-Fayed, the man who fornicated with Princess Diana)? Muhammad in the Bible (Songs 5:16)? [youtube .com/watch?v=CYPSb7w6WBo&t=380s]
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Thank you very much for superchat @bowrudder899
Thank you Hatun.
Hope you feel better soon.
He also said that the Paraclete would be with the apostles forever, but the prophet of the Arab god was not born until 500 years later, so obviously he was not with them forever.
Some Muslims do learn actually.
But those who do leave Islam when they do.
I love how the gospel prophecy has a reference of God the Father, a thing Mohammed preached against.
Before anybody comes with nonsense. Kletos is defined as endoxos in classical Greek dictionaries. Also kleitos which means praised in classical Greek was spelled interchangeable in classical Greek. Evident from the Plutarch manuscripts or directly of grammarians lexicons explaining the spelling kletos as endoxos glorified. Also kletos is used in this meaning in titles like telekletos, polykletos, perikletos, dourikletos. Endoxos glorified glory doxa is used in the translation of hmd of Arabic.
The one spouting nonsense is you. Open Liddell & Scott, the standard authoritative classical Greek-English dictionary. Kleitos means called, and para means "at", "beside", "alongside of", "by".
Jesus said HE would send the parakletos. You think Jesus sent Mohammed???
If "Parakletos" means Mohammed, then Jesus sent ANOTHER Mohammed. Who was the first Mohammed?
Jesus said the parakletos would be IN his disciples. Mohammed was in a lot of women. Was he in Jesus's disciples 6 centuries before he was born???
In that sense it means "heard of" as in famous or "called on" as in appointed. Translating it as "glory" is a massive stretch. It is indeed associated with glory as in "fame and glory" but it means fame not glory. Either way translating it as "praised" is a no-go. In Arabic Kletos as in "heard of" is shuhra, sumea or mudalil. Kletos as in "appointed" or "called" is musamman.
@@Abduzzah_Abdul_Muṭṭalib it is described as such in classical lexicons (endoxos) also kletos can be derived from kleo which means to praise kleitos kletos were interchangeable in spelling. Kleos is translated as glory/praise. You confuse it with kaleo
@@Abduzzah_Abdul_Muṭṭalibglory means worship. Stop lying to yourself seriously
@@l3ll5lit’s so sad to hear so deceived by this liar Allah
1:14:24 😂😂😂an alternative translation indeed. 🤣. But I thought our scripture was “corrupted”?
Oh sister. Glad to hear you. 🎉
How is a human going to dwell in us? John 14:17
From, Who Is The "Comforter"?
REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT TEXTS
First, let the New Testament texts speak for themselves. They clearly state that the Comforter is the Holy Spirit. There is no ambiguity about this. Consequently Muhammad is not the Comforter based upon what the Bible explicitly states.
Second let us take the context of the texts into account. If you are going to understand any passage of Scripture you must understand its context. When Jesus spoke these words in John it was His last ministerial time with His disciples prior to His death, crucifixion, and resurrection. Jesus is being very intimate with them. Understand then, when he speaks to them He is including them - these very disciples, specifically. These are the men He knew best and loved; they were His friends. These were His final words to them, and He wanted them to know what was in store.
Therefore, knowing that these passages of John are being spoken intimately between Jesus and His disciples there are several key points we can discover concerning the Comforter and His relationship with Jesus’ disciples.
John 14:16 - And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth.
The Comforter will be with these disciples forever. Jesus promised the Comforter would be with these disciples forever. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he wasn't born until over 500 years later - following the deaths of these disciples. He was born around 570 and died around 632 AD.
John 14:17 - But you know him for he lives with you and will be in you.
The Comforter lives with the disciples already now and will later be 'in' them. The Holy Spirit came to the disciples and indwelt them. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because first he wasn't around at the time when Jesus was speaking to his disciples nor second could he ever be in any of the disciples. The Greek word is 'en', and it means 'right inside'. Jesus is saying that the Comforter will be 'right inside' of the disciples.
John 14:26 - The Comforter is specifically described as the Holy Spirit. The Comforter is not a man. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he was never the Holy Spirit.
John 14:26 - The Comforter will be sent in Jesus' name. The Holy Spirit represented the Lord on earth. No Muslim believes that Muhammad was sent by God in Jesus name. Muhammad did not come in Jesus' name, as the apostle of Jesus, rather he came in his own name with his own questionable “revelations”.
John 14:26 - But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."
The Comforter will teach these disciples and remind them of what Christ said to them. As the early Christians grew the Holy Spirit taught them. Muhammad is not the Comforter because he never knew the disciples and he didn't teach these disciples, and Muhammad never reminded the disciples of what Christ said.
John 15:26 - When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.
The Comforter would be sent to these disciples. These disciples received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. Muhammad was never sent to these disciples.
John 16:13 - But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.
The Comforter will guide these disciples into all truth. These disciples (and others) grew in the knowledge of God through the revelations from the Holy Spirit. Muhammad never guided these disciples into any truth.
John 16:13 - He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
The Comforter will speak to these disciples. These disciples grew to know the leading of the Holy Spirit, i.e. they knew His voice. Muhammad never spoke to these disciples.
John 16:14 - He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.
The Comforter will take from Jesus and make it known to the disciples. Muhammad never knew Jesus and never took from Jesus and made it known to anyone.
The context of these passages shows clearly that Muhammad could not be the Comforter. Jesus was not speaking of another person to come at a later date. Jesus’ precious final words to His disciples were meant for them. Jesus was not merely preaching a sermon to be analyzed and intellectually talked about through the centuries, rather, He was giving His the disciples with Him there His final commands, love, and encouragement.
Here's a question for you to consider: In Islamic theology, Muhammad rendered Jesus’ message fulfilled or ended because Muhammad brought God’s latest message to the people. Muhammad expected that true believers in God would accept Islam. Therefore, if Jesus was foretelling Muhammad, wouldn’t Jesus be prophesying that his ministry will be rendered void by the Paraclete? Read the context of the passages and decide.
Further, to fulfill exactly what Jesus foretold concerning the Comforter and His relationship with the disciples, the New Testament records the fulfillment of the coming of the Holy Spirit and the disciples receiving Him. The disciples received the Comforter - the Holy Spirit, on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:3, 4. The Comforter was now “in” the disciples and He remained “in” them from then on and taught them - just as Jesus had said He would.
Chat gpt is content to lie in pursuit of the pre determined prompts. One needs to know what the prompts were
Chat gpt is politically correct and WOKE, CRT. In that regard, Elon has failed in this venture.
Jesus is Lord+ He is God!
touba touba astakhfar 😭☝️
Yes, revert to Jesus Christ your Lord and your God
This Muslim is trying to understand and explain spiritual things with his cardinal mind or he is lying and purposely trying to confuse Christian’s to make them accept his devil cult
Either way this will not work on a a person that has a relationship with God
Jesus said my sheep know my voice and a stranger they will not follow know God for yourself and you will not be deceived
He confuses no one He is refusing to read the Pentecost Day climax of the Tarry in till the outpouring of the Holy Spirit God is Great in Jesus Christ
That's their doctrinal creed: *Quran 2:225* "Allah will NOT call you to account for _thoughtlessness_ in your *OATHS,* but for the intention in your *hearts."*
*Qur'an 3:54* “Then they deceived, and Allah countered their deceptions by deceptions
of His own. Allah is the best of *DECEIVER”*
*Qur'an 2:106* “If We ABROGATE a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We *REPLACE* it
with a better or similar one. Do you not know that Allah is Most Capable of everything?”
*Qur'an 4:82* “Do they not ponder about the Qur’an? Had it been from any other than
Allah, they would surely have found in it much *INCONSISTENCIES.”*
*Qur'an 15:9* "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its
guardian." Thus it is not Our Messenger whom you are _calling_ *INSANE* but in fact this
abusive remark applies to _us._
*Qur'an 16:101* “When We replace a verse with another and Allah knows best what He
reveals - they say, “You ˹Muḥammad˺ are just a *FABRICATOR* In fact, most of them do
not know.”
I just checked P66 and it says "Parakletos, to Pnevma to 👉Agion👈" - "Paraclete, the 👉Holy 👈Spirit", so that's a lie about John 14:26
You’re the liar
@@Abduzzah_Abdul_Muṭṭalib p66 has not all descriptions of the Paraclete. Christians may use as a contention but even if it were there is no problem with the interpretation. Montanus Mani claimed to be the Paraclete. Paul was also to be thought as the Paraclete. This shows that 1. The Paraclete was a central teaching of the historical Jesus 2. The earliest Christians didn't think it was the holy spirit. Tertullian was a follower of the montanus movement. Augustine was for 9 years a follower of the Mani movement. Paul was also claimed to be the Paraclete
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ. He is the antichrist who denies the Father and the Son
John 14 says he will be in you. This verse has nothing to do with your pedo prophet. Leave it alone. You’re going to end up in hell with Mohammed. Jesus is the only one who saves and you will not go to heaven without the blood of Jesus
There is no redemption or salvation without Jesus. That is why you have no assurance. Jesus gives assurance. Mohammed was a liar and a scumbag
If you want to send a letter or money to someone, you need to provide address information to avoid delivering it to the wrong person.
If you want people to meet a prophet, you should provide address information to avoid confusion. Something like Number 1, Mecca road, Hejaz. 720 kilometers south east of this city.
You mean to the northwest --- PETRA.
My post, A Short Note on 'Muhammad' in the Song of Songs
This is something of a departure from my usual material, which is to do with Islam, but seeing as Muslims make this claim, I shall make a brief comment on it.
Song 5:14-16 His hands are as rods of gold set [memullaim]with beryl; his body is as polished ivory overlaid with sapphires [sappirim]./ His legs are as pillars of marble, set [meyussadim] upon sockets of fine gold; his aspect is like Lebanon, excellent as the cedars [arazim]./ His mouth is most sweet [mamtaqqim]; yea, he is altogether lovely [machamaddim]. This is my beloved [dodi], and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'
Note the -im endings. Did the author simply continue the ending in verse 16? You will notice the mamtaqqim. Should we understand that this is a reference to some unknown Mamtaq? Let's look at machamaddim. It is derived from the word machmad [biblehub .com/hebrew/4261 .htm] . There is a number of passages that use it. Let's look at some.
1 Kings 20:6 but I will send my servants unto thee tomorrow about this time, and they shall search thy house, and the houses of thy servants; and it shall be, that whatsoever is pleasant [machmad] in thine eyes, they shall put it in their hand, and take it away.'
Lamentations 1:10-11 The adversary hath spread out his hand upon all her treasures; for she hath seen that the heathen are entered into her sanctuary, concerning whom Thou didst command that they should not enter into Thy congregation./All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their pleasant things [machamaddeyhem]for food to refresh the soul. 'See, O LORD, and behold, how abject I am become.'
Ezekiel 24:16, 21 'Son of man, behold, I take away from thee the desire of [machmad] thine eyes with a stroke; yet neither shalt thou make lamentation nor weep, neither shall thy tears run down.
Speak unto the house of Israel: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will profane My sanctuary, the pride of your power, the desire of [machmad] your eyes, and the longing of your soul; and your sons and your daughters whom ye have left behind shall fall by the sword.
Hosea 9:6 For, lo, they are gone away from destruction, yet Egypt shall gather them up, Memphis shall bury them; their precious [machmad] treasures of silver, nettles shall possess them, thorns shall be in their tents.
2 Chronicles 36:19 And they burnt the house of God, and broke down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly [machamaddeah] vessels thereof.
Isaiah 64:11 Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised Thee, is burned with fire; and all our pleasant things [machamaddenu] are laid waste.
You will notice that the word dodi 'my beloved' is used in the well-known verse in the Song. If Muslims are going to go by similarity of sound, why not also look for Dodi (Al-Fayed, the man who fornicated with Princess Diana)?
Muhammad in the Bible (Songs 5:16)? [youtube .com/watch?v=CYPSb7w6WBo&t=380s]