Good thing that coldsteel when back with Taiwan, i have stormcloud make in Italy is garbage! The scale off like someone drunk that try to a line the scale to mill and miss the milling, bad quality control
My Italian Version came in today!!!!! I love it!!! I have purchased my very own all bc of ur enthusiastic videos on the 4Max and i fell in love with it!! I now am the proud owner of 4Max Scout and the addition today of my 4Max Italian!! Have a blessed day man!!! Love the channel
Jimi it does my heart good to see all the enjoyment you get outta that OG CS4Max I sold ya...I can hear the pure unadulterated joy in your tone every single time you deploy her! Keep preachin Demko gospel brudda! PLUS a HUUUUGE shout out to Cold Steel for translating AD's custom masterpieces into production models!
Honestly if you know how to sharpen a knife 1095, 440c, or AUS 10 is all you need. Much easier to sharpen than 20CV or M4 too. Believe me I know, I have all kinds of knives with fancy steels, I make my own knives too. Don't fall for the high end steel hype.
@@Skinnymoose You are not lying. I spent forever getting an edge on an M390 blade, this morning. I have a bit of the snobbery, but it's not to the point that all knives lose value if they're not "super"; especially in light of the beating I just put on it. Thank you.
Most of the people who complain about steel don't even use their knives, they just want the print on their knife blade as a status symbol. Because if the blade says CPM XXX it means the blade is better. I've tested cold steels AUS 10 over the last week and its a good steel, nothing wrong with it at all.
It’s such a beast!!! Excellent testing! If I didn’t already have an AD-10 to fill my beast knife slot in my collection, I’m pretty sure I’d be all over this right now. I may still have to grab one eventually because it just looks that good, and I’m so darn impressed with my AD-10. Thanks for the in-depth review.
Jeez dude you beat the snot out of that thing lol. Came here from Slicey Dicey. Great video and I can tell you're a passionate reviewer. You definitely earned a subscriber!
Jim the difference between s35v and AUS 10a is nominal especially in edge retention. Aus10a is definitely a tougher steel. If you put those two knives through a severe beating the 4max scout with grivex scales and aus10 a would come through with flying colors, whereas the 4 max with s35v steel and titanium scales would chip, and break without question. In the long run the 4max scout is definitely the better buy! The last thing, if you used these two knives for field use the aus10a is easier to sharpen!
I watch your videos and I've bought some of the cold steel knives, I have 4max scout & Steve Austin knife, continue your videos, your a straight shooter and no bs. Thank you
the fact you beat the scoutmax on the same wood mr miyagi and sato beat on in karate kid 2 and it still held up is a real testament to the fact the scoutlemax is the ultimate folder
@@Jimislash he actually runs 2 hawaiian restaurants here in seattle and lynnwood washington. he's super cool about taking pictures if you want to. its kona kitchen. his name is yuji. YOU DANCE, LIKE GEISHA lol DO YOU KNOW HOW TO FIGHT WITH SPEAR?!?!? LIVE OR DIE MAN? i choose death! WRONG ANSWER. HONNNNNNNK
Thank you for the video Joshua. It's always good to hear and see you (or see your hands at least). After much internal debate, I decided to buy the Italian version - received it yesterday. (You'd actually recommended it to me before the Scout was presented.) The knife is well designed and no folding knife has a more secure lock. Two things I find odd about the knife are to do with the handle. (1) The handle diameter is skinny in diameter making it built for medium size hands yet the knife is a colossus. (2) The knife handle is way long, 6.0", yet the blade sticks out only 4.0". Still, the knife is fun to fidget with. It always spooks me a bit when I deploy that blade and hear that monstrous click when it locks open - I fear one of my fingers might get caught some place yet that won't happen. The knife is designed to be so safe as it can be. Look forward to seeing you again JS!
The long handle gives you different options to choose from for grip. Great for chopping. :) Once you get used to the lock, it's super easy to take use. Thank you for the kind words.
This checks so many boxes IMO and there is nothing wrong with AUS10A steel. Cold Steel has their process dialed in for all steels used so you can be assured it is made to spec. FYI: "The AUS stainless steel series is produced by Aichi Steel Corporation of Japan. They differ from the AISI 4xx series because they have vanadium added to them. Vanadium improves the wear resistance, toughness, and ease of sharpening.[11] In the alloy name the appended 'A' indicates the alloy has been annealed. AUS-6 (6A) is comparable to 440A with a carbon content close to 0.65%.[11] It is a low cost steel, slightly higher wear resistance compared to 420J. AUS-8 (8A) is comparable to 440B with a carbon content close to 0.75%.[11] AUS-8 is often used instead of 440C.[11] SOG knives uses AUS-8 extensively. AUS-10 (10A) is comparable to 440C with a carbon content close to 1.10%.[11] It is slightly tougher than 440C."
@@Jimislash : I have had very good luck with 440C in knives by Ganzo (and others) so this will do quite nicely. The chronic naysayers will still complain but I think Cold Steel has a hit with the 4-MAX Scout!
I sold my USA made 4 MAX last night to a guy in the UK (Ihope he enjoys it). I think I'll invest a little bit of that money in this version to help me miss it a little less. Thanks for the review, it looks every bit as user friendly (if not more) as the US & Italian versions at a Much Better price point.
I'm some what torn on whether I want to buy one. I have enough big tough over-built knives already. I don't have need for another one, yet I want it none the less. I seldom have need for this type knife, yet the allure draws me in every time. I can't really afford a 4Max, but this one I can..Cold Steel kills me..I love them, regardless of my need, or lack of, lol. AUS10 doesn't bother me at all..it's a decent performer. At this price point, for a large heavy use intended beast of a knife, you won't do much better. If you improve the steel, you raise the cost. This is a decent steel at a decent price. There are far worse steels they could have chosen to use. More than likely, I'll end up with one in my collection, and it will probably sit and collect dust with only an occasional carry, like the rest of my big over built hard use knives do, lol.
Timbo437....As a longtime collector, user, seller, trader, buy'em again guy, I started getting rid of knives I wouldn't use or carry. So after 25 years, I sold off a lifetime collection which included 2 Sebenza 21s, Daltons, 9 Medfords, andseveral Striders that I had bought used because I refuse to support posers. Then went all of the "collectible" Spydies and a lifetime Benchmade collection because of their political leanings. So, what was left that I love and am not afraid to carry and use without worry....I still have all of my Cold Steel blades including old ones like the Triple Action and I ordered one of these Friday after watching this great video. Cold Steel is a company that puts out great, unapologetic blades that are affordable for the average Joe and are a better and stronger knife than some costing hundreds $ more! Cold Steel, the company with balls!
@@sturmgewehr70 I agree about CS. I only have 5 of their folders, and 6 of their fixed blades, but every one is an awesome knife. I know there are a lot of haters because of their marketing, and a lot of Lynn Thompson haters, but regardless of what anyone thinks about all that, the product they put out is solid as hell. From their budget line to their top tier, their knives perform as a knife should, and they hold up to hard use. Even their lower grade budget steels like AUS8 and 1.4116 hold up pretty well compared to others that use those same steels..they seem to do a good job on their heat treats to get the max performance out of a steel. One of these days I'm going to need to thin out my collection too. It's kind of stupid to have 75 knives or more that never see any pocket time, and just sit in my chest of drawers collecting dust. I have both budget brand knives as well as higher end TI frame locks with exotic steels, but there are only around 10 that I carry regularly. Kind of stupid when you really think about it. I just find it a major pia to sell them. I've given away far more than I've ever sold 😂 🤣
I bought this knife because of your awesome review. It's a great knife. Cut myself taking it straight out of the box so I can tell you it arrives sharp.
Actually picked up the 4 Max and a 4Max Scout. The 4 Max is just a perfect folder! The Scout is a freaking war wagon if you really need to put it to work! I was lucky enough to be able to get both but for the $$ the Scout is the real deal.
Aus10 from cold steel is my favorite non super steel or maybe I should say non powdered steel. It takes an adge like vg10 and holds it like 154cm or better. It's great!!
wolfie13s His enthusiasm for Cold Steel (especially the 4Max) is definitely infectious! He’s the reason I’ve quickly become a Cold Steel fanboy in recent years. Whenever I see something new and awesome in their lineup, I always anxiously await his review.
Wait do people not know that aus 10a is a decent steel? Cedric & Ada put it slightly better than 154cm as far as edge retention in his tests. I haven't heard anything bad about it. Heck, even CS's aus 8a is good stuff. CS has consistently good heat treats which is going to be more important than the specific steel type anyways. I can understand people maybe not liking the feel of the handle material since that's subjective, but complaining about the blade steel here is weird.
They had the top 4max for 171 and the scout for 74, so I bought both of em...still waiting on shipping ...can't wait till they get here ! Only bought the scout because I watched this video, saw how tough it was...no poser here...both awesome. ACTION! Not Words haha
Great review, nothing wrong with Aus-8. Most manufacturers who use Aus-8 thin their blades to much. Ontario Rat, also uses Aus-8. great lil knife but blades to thin and the liner lock sucks. Also, one thing I like to see in reviews is real life cutting. I have hard use knives but never would I chop into lumber/timber, that's were machetes,hatchets, and axes come into play. Right tool for the right job kinda thing. Butcher something with the test knife, bone and sinew and even meat can dull a knife too. Different types of cardboard, ropes,cordage(dry and wet). But yes the 4-Max Scout is a beast of a knife. Nice thick blade, easy to sharpen, Triad lock, diffently made for hard use.
Very awesome reply! It's fun to look at chemistry and rarer alloys seem more worth spending on, but I can get caught up in emotional attachments and spun up on more available alloys being"lesser"
I have never been a big Cold Steel fan but Josh you are starting to make me a believer I love the 4max scout it was like a timex watch it took a licking and kept on ticking going to get one 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Dude! I'm sold, I'm ordering one this Friday. And yes I always wanted one, but couldn't afford it and now I can. Cold steel was looking out for people like me!!!! Also is the knife in the beginning of the video with the carbon fiber, or canves scales a cold steel, or a real Demco?
Hmm why are people complaining about the steel on it you can have 3 for the price of one normal 4max and feel better about beating the crap out of them. Thanks for the proper review mr.slash 👍
I have a Voyager with AUS 10 and Grivex and never worried about its durability, so I have zero qualms with the materials chosen. The thing that’s going to make me purchase this version over the full fat 4-Max is I can beat the snot out of it and not cringe. I do have to say I’m a little surprised it weighs more than it’s older brother.
3:55 the mystery hole according to a cold steel video I saw, was when during testing they wanted to make sure it didn't cut the company owners hand as he used it during a safari! Pretty cool company, I have a bunch of their knives. The have been sold to a Texas based company. We will see what the future holds. Oh yeah, excellent review, I am a new subscriber👍👍
Thank you for subbing! So far, so good. It's almost two years into the GSM buyout, and they're still putting out the knives Cold Steel has been known for.
I got GSM Engage. I'm not as paranoid as I was after getting word of the sale. I didn't think of panic buying then. I'm thinking the 4 Max elite because of S35VN and G-10. I been watching videos on 4 Max. I like a big knife. Strange but I just took out Engage to get at some car signal bulbs in clear plastic and it seemed too big for the job, but it wasn't an issue of long, wide blade, just being careful not to cut towards myself or have fingers in the way. 4 Max is beefy, large and tough, still sharp. LTC always wanted Cold Steel to be the sharpest, toughest knives. I wonder how many cheapie "Wonder knives" he easily demolished and ruined. I've seen him at parking lot event and Blade West 2022 in SLC, UT, but he's not the approachable type and doesn't need to be to do what he does, but it would be fun to ask him about his knife experiences before Cold Steel was started up. Like what was his first knife and his favorite knife as a teen.
This is gonna be my first Aus10 experience. So far, everyone who did cutting tests said it's a bit better than the ol' CTS BD1. So, since my Rajah II is still a 2015 model with that steel on it, and I've already beaten the crap outta it and it still hasn't weakened since, I'm probably gonna be really happy.
I only have one with CTS BD1... It says CTS BD1N. It's a different brand than Cold Steel. If AUS-10 is nice user steel than that's just fine! I want to see more why LCT couldn't get enough CTS XHP.
I have CS Voyager in AUS10. Zero complaints. A lot of steel snobs don't even use their knives or know how to sharpen them. Solid freakin' vid my man. Another amazingly budget friendly hard use blade is the Gerber Strongarm
Nice video Slash. I knew I could count on a good beating on the AUS 10 blade and it performed well. It is refreshing to see a different blade steel other than D2 which has been flooding the budget market for 2 years.
YEAH! nothing bums me out the way D2 or S30V being the only options or blacked out models. I wish at least the major folder makers would move away from those things
@@Jimislash Here's the earliest example I can find of Cold Steel marketing AUS-10: www.bladeforums.com/threads/aus10a.1563342/ I had thought the regular use of AUS-10 went way further back but I guess the first production catalog reference was in the 1999 Cold Steel catalog: sales.coldsteel.com/cs_images/1999catalog.pdf (See the Triple Action) "WHATISAUS 10A? Cold Steel’s commitment to producing the finest cutlery in the world starts with procuring the finest materials. Five years ago we discovered AUS 10A, a high carbon stainless made in Japan. We tested AUS 10A, along with every other Japanese-made stainless suitable for knifemaking. Some steels showed promise, but weaknesses became apparent when we flexed them in a vise and began cutting rope. The only equal to our AUS 8A in strength and toughness was AUS 10A; however, the big breakthrough was that it exceeded AUS 8A by an honest 20% in edge holding ability, giving it a wide performance advantage over ATS-34, ATS-55 and 440V." The marketing claim of an edge holding performance advantage over 440V (S90V in modern nomenclature) is obvious BS, but to say it was the best Stainless coming out of Japan in the 80's-90's probably isn't an exaggeration (I still can't find a reference to its actual origin, most of the best steel used in the 90's was just developed in the nebulous "Post War" era). Anyway, for decades AUS-10 was only used by Cold Steel on their absolute best products and I remember for years and years being highly envious of anything made in AUS-10, that we're getting it in the 4Max now makes me flat out giddy. I have to use a lot of personal restraint to avoid going and buying one example of everything they're making in AUS-10 right now.
I like the idea of using some cheaper hardware to bring down the price hopefully they head toward options for what steel you want on whichever knife design I wish they would bring back the master Hunter in 3v
I prefer the grivory handle over the G10. It's lighter and at least as tough/durable. I once hit the handle of the Voyager Large CP with a cold chisel. Just to test how tough it is. No dents or scratch, nothing. Do that with G10 and it will get ugly. The glass will show it's white face.
@@Jimislash It's just snobbism, about G10 and Micarta are. Not realism. Those cheap grivory/zytel type of handles are extremely tough and wear resistent.
@@Jimislash I will add to that. They are my preferred knife handle material on a folder. The Grivory toughness as can be seen on the Voyager also. On fixed knives I like the Rubber type a lot. Very grippy. As can be seen with a Mora Companion or the 7 series, 711/731/748mg/749.
I'm a HUGE Cold Steel Fan , and this 4Max Scout seams like another Awesome knife from CS , and I love the AUS-10 on my Voyagers and my Spartan but CS is known for using S35VN on knives as low as $70.00 , so Why Not use S35VN on this knife ??? I thought the same way about the Espada , Why Not ?? Either Way , I'm still obviously going to buy one , it's still well worth the money , imo
@@Jimislash I'm not sure. I was hoping you could tell me. Unfortunately, I do not own this knife.... YET! It just looks like a smaller pivot on video.... Thanks again!
Do you have any opinion on the Air Lite? I see the value in the scout, but the aus 10 in the air lite series is a little weird considering the code 4 costs less and uses s35vn
I like the Air Lite. I bought one. However, for what you are getting, there are too many Cold Steel in the price area and below that I would get first. It's a great knife, but not the first one I would grab at that price.
I bought the 4Max Scout on Knife Works for $82.95! No excuses people. I have the USA made version as well. But for the money, this is a BEAST of a knife at this price point! Coming from a 'Steel Snob' too, this is worth every penny for a knife to keep in your pocket to beat on and it sharpens right back up with ease!
Hi Joshua hope you and the family are doing well I just received my Cold Steel Scout today and you are wrong it is not a beast it is SCOUTZILLA LOL :-)
@@Jimislash I just wanted a year to get new badass cold steel stuff like every year and I got a bunch of cheeper copys that's cool but mayby new stuff to I mean there was some new stuff but mostly copy's to me it seems I'm the only guy that feels this way 😕
Hi, you seem to be a 4 max expert. I am really confused between 4 max, scout and ad10. Size of the knife is not an issue, just interms of toughness, which one is the best?
They are going to be equally tough. It's going to come down to what size knife you want to have. If I had to choose, and size wasn't an issue, the 4-Max wins. The 4-Max is my favorite all-time knife. :) If they are both equally tough, why not get a better grip and 1/2" more blade?
Eu aqui no Brasil, sonhando com um canivete desse, e o cara tacando o canivete na madeira...kkkk...mas adorei o vídeo... esse é um sonho de consumo que jamais irei realizar... mas adorei o canal e já me inscrevi... sucesso brother.
ITS 2021 IF YOUR STILL ON THE FENCE ABOUT A 4 MAX OR 4 MAX SCOUT.... GOOD STAY THERE MORE FOR ME 🤣🤣🤣🤣 all seriousness tho GET ONE GET TWO OR THREE OR 5 IF YOU CAN I PROMISE YOU WILL LOVE IT
Everyone: BuT MuhH XHPz. Joshua: I'll use this AUS10 as a jackhammer and it'll still cut paper afterwards.
:) It worked out great! Total beast!
This is why I love Cold Steel.
Good thing that coldsteel when back with Taiwan, i have stormcloud make in Italy is garbage! The scale off like someone drunk that try to a line the scale to mill and miss the milling, bad quality control
That’s A LOT of knife for $100!!!!!
Thanks Cold Steel!
@@DvBattlegears were you drunk when you wrote this? Taiwan models are definitely better made than the Italian ones.
I would just like to take this opportunity to wish everyone in advance a hearty welcome to the 4max Club.
Welcome!
@@Jimislash I only wish I had recorded on video my last camping trip when I chopped down a sapling with my 4 Max.
Love mine!!
Thanks man!! Purchased the 4 Max and 2 of the 4 Max Scouts. I'm eating Raman and canned beans for awhile but I'm walking a bit taller!!
@@Jimislash I love my 4max scout with tha SnaggleToothMF best combo ever
My Italian Version came in today!!!!! I love it!!! I have purchased my very own all bc of ur enthusiastic videos on the 4Max and i fell in love with it!! I now am the proud owner of 4Max Scout and the addition today of my 4Max Italian!! Have a blessed day man!!! Love the channel
That's awesome! I am jealous. :) Thank you for the kind words. Have a blessed day, as well! :)
Jimi it does my heart good to see all the enjoyment you get outta that OG CS4Max I sold ya...I can hear the pure unadulterated joy in your tone every single time you deploy her! Keep preachin Demko gospel brudda! PLUS a HUUUUGE shout out to Cold Steel for translating AD's custom masterpieces into production models!
:) Thank you! It is cool to see Demko's work in hands of a lot of people. It makes it more fun.
HELL yeah!
Cold steel. Sponsor this dude! He sold me on this!! The new nicer version of Lynn Thompson. Super enthusiastic!!
If people are disappointed in AUS 10 A (especially at the price point), then they have bigger problems than steel preference.
Ego drives a lot of steel snobbery.
Honestly if you know how to sharpen a knife 1095, 440c, or AUS 10 is all you need. Much easier to sharpen than 20CV or M4 too. Believe me I know, I have all kinds of knives with fancy steels, I make my own knives too. Don't fall for the high end steel hype.
@@Skinnymoose You are not lying. I spent forever getting an edge on an M390 blade, this morning. I have a bit of the snobbery, but it's not to the point that all knives lose value if they're not "super"; especially in light of the beating I just put on it. Thank you.
@D O where?
Most of the people who complain about steel don't even use their knives, they just want the print on their knife blade as a status symbol. Because if the blade says CPM XXX it means the blade is better. I've tested cold steels AUS 10 over the last week and its a good steel, nothing wrong with it at all.
It’s such a beast!!! Excellent testing! If I didn’t already have an AD-10 to fill my beast knife slot in my collection, I’m pretty sure I’d be all over this right now. I may still have to grab one eventually because it just looks that good, and I’m so darn impressed with my AD-10. Thanks for the in-depth review.
It is awesome! But that AD10 fills that slot, nicely. Thank you for watching!
Jeez dude you beat the snot out of that thing lol. Came here from Slicey Dicey. Great video and I can tell you're a passionate reviewer. You definitely earned a subscriber!
I love how people abuse their knives so I dont have to.
:)
I was able to get one the other night from the cold steel website. I am very excited about this one! Awesome review as always.
So cool to see you. :)
Jimislash I know I don’t get out much anymore. I am still a knife addict though.
A great review, I just loved it when you took out all these boxes, gonna get my 4-max scout. Thanks.
Thank you! I hope you enjoy it.
Jim the difference between s35v and AUS 10a is nominal especially in edge retention. Aus10a is definitely a tougher steel. If you put those two knives through a severe beating the 4max scout with grivex scales and aus10 a would come through with flying colors, whereas the 4 max with s35v steel and titanium scales would chip, and break without question. In the long run the 4max scout is definitely the better buy! The last thing, if you used these two knives for field use the aus10a is easier to sharpen!
AUS10A is a very good steel.
I watch your videos and I've bought some of the cold steel knives, I have 4max scout & Steve Austin knife, continue your videos, your a straight shooter and no bs. Thank you
Thank you!
the fact you beat the scoutmax on the same wood mr miyagi and sato beat on in karate kid 2 and it still held up is a real testament to the fact the scoutlemax is the ultimate folder
LOL! I always wanted pecs like the bad Okinawan kid. I couldn't work out hard enough. :)
@@Jimislash he actually runs 2 hawaiian restaurants here in seattle and lynnwood washington. he's super cool about taking pictures if you want to. its kona kitchen. his name is yuji.
YOU DANCE, LIKE GEISHA lol DO YOU KNOW HOW TO FIGHT WITH SPEAR?!?!?
LIVE OR DIE MAN? i choose death! WRONG ANSWER. HONNNNNNNK
FINALLY got mine, so had to come back and revisit this video. 👍🏻
Thank you for the video Joshua. It's always good to hear and see you (or see your hands at least). After much internal debate, I decided to buy the Italian version - received it yesterday. (You'd actually recommended it to me before the Scout was presented.) The knife is well designed and no folding knife has a more secure lock. Two things I find odd about the knife are to do with the handle. (1) The handle diameter is skinny in diameter making it built for medium size hands yet the knife is a colossus. (2) The knife handle is way long, 6.0", yet the blade sticks out only 4.0". Still, the knife is fun to fidget with. It always spooks me a bit when I deploy that blade and hear that monstrous click when it locks open - I fear one of my fingers might get caught some place yet that won't happen. The knife is designed to be so safe as it can be. Look forward to seeing you again JS!
The long handle gives you different options to choose from for grip. Great for chopping. :) Once you get used to the lock, it's super easy to take use. Thank you for the kind words.
This checks so many boxes IMO and there is nothing wrong with AUS10A steel. Cold Steel has their process dialed in for all steels used so you can be assured it is made to spec. FYI: "The AUS stainless steel series is produced by Aichi Steel Corporation of Japan. They differ from the AISI 4xx series because they have vanadium added to them. Vanadium improves the wear resistance, toughness, and ease of sharpening.[11] In the alloy name the appended 'A' indicates the alloy has been annealed.
AUS-6 (6A) is comparable to 440A with a carbon content close to 0.65%.[11] It is a low cost steel, slightly higher wear resistance compared to 420J.
AUS-8 (8A) is comparable to 440B with a carbon content close to 0.75%.[11] AUS-8 is often used instead of 440C.[11] SOG knives uses AUS-8 extensively.
AUS-10 (10A) is comparable to 440C with a carbon content close to 1.10%.[11] It is slightly tougher than 440C."
Cold Steel is heat treating this right, if it's only a bit tougher than 440C. It's a beast.
@@Jimislash : I have had very good luck with 440C in knives by Ganzo (and others) so this will do quite nicely. The chronic naysayers will still complain but I think Cold Steel has a hit with the 4-MAX Scout!
The Vanadium is supposed to retard grain growth therefore theoretically tougher, but still has to be done right.
if anyones revisiting this video right now these are $65 on amazon
I sold my USA made 4 MAX last night to a guy in the UK (Ihope he enjoys it). I think I'll invest a little bit of that money in this version to help me miss it a little less. Thanks for the review, it looks every bit as user friendly (if not more) as the US & Italian versions at a Much Better price point.
It will help you get over it. :)
@@Jimislash
I believe so too, Thanks Sir!!
Great knife and "It will Keel!".
It will keel everything! :)
I'm some what torn on whether I want to buy one. I have enough big tough over-built knives already. I don't have need for another one, yet I want it none the less. I seldom have need for this type knife, yet the allure draws me in every time. I can't really afford a 4Max, but this one I can..Cold Steel kills me..I love them, regardless of my need, or lack of, lol. AUS10 doesn't bother me at all..it's a decent performer. At this price point, for a large heavy use intended beast of a knife, you won't do much better. If you improve the steel, you raise the cost. This is a decent steel at a decent price. There are far worse steels they could have chosen to use. More than likely, I'll end up with one in my collection, and it will probably sit and collect dust with only an occasional carry, like the rest of my big over built hard use knives do, lol.
I carry mine all the time. :) You just gotta get used to it.
@@Jimislash I do carry my AD10 fairly often. It really is my favorite beastl knife, but that may change if I ever manage to afford a 4Max, lol.
Timbo437....As a longtime collector, user, seller, trader, buy'em again guy, I started getting rid of knives I wouldn't use or carry. So after 25 years, I sold off a lifetime collection which included 2 Sebenza 21s, Daltons, 9 Medfords, andseveral Striders that I had bought used because I refuse to support posers. Then went all of the "collectible" Spydies and a lifetime Benchmade collection because of their political leanings. So, what was left that I love and am not afraid to carry and use without worry....I still have all of my Cold Steel blades including old ones like the Triple Action and I ordered one of these Friday after watching this great video. Cold Steel is a company that puts out great, unapologetic blades that are affordable for the average Joe and are a better and stronger knife than some costing hundreds $ more! Cold Steel, the company with balls!
@@sturmgewehr70 I agree about CS. I only have 5 of their folders, and 6 of their fixed blades, but every one is an awesome knife. I know there are a lot of haters because of their marketing, and a lot of Lynn Thompson haters, but regardless of what anyone thinks about all that, the product they put out is solid as hell. From their budget line to their top tier, their knives perform as a knife should, and they hold up to hard use. Even their lower grade budget steels like AUS8 and 1.4116 hold up pretty well compared to others that use those same steels..they seem to do a good job on their heat treats to get the max performance out of a steel.
One of these days I'm going to need to thin out my collection too. It's kind of stupid to have 75 knives or more that never see any pocket time, and just sit in my chest of drawers collecting dust. I have both budget brand knives as well as higher end TI frame locks with exotic steels, but there are only around 10 that I carry regularly. Kind of stupid when you really think about it. I just find it a major pia to sell them. I've given away far more than I've ever sold 😂 🤣
"C'mon! What do ya want? What do ya want? I want rock & roll!"
Cold Steel, "Hold my beer."
4-Max Scout!
Lol, yes!!!
What to do when your 4Max Scout is on the way. Watch some 4Max knife videos. Thanks for the info and vid.
:) Thank you for watching!
I bought this knife because of your awesome review. It's a great knife. Cut myself taking it straight out of the box so I can tell you it arrives sharp.
I'm glad I could help. I stabbed myself with a Night Force this afternoon. :)
All hail the 4-Max Scout, king of the budget beast knives!
Indeed!
I purchased it from knifeworks for $82.95 great review
Wow! Great deal!
Being a Scoutmaster I feel I must have the 4Max Scout Awesome Video Really Enjoyed it.
Well duh...obvi. :) Get one!
Actually picked up the 4 Max and a 4Max Scout. The 4 Max is just a perfect folder! The Scout is a freaking war wagon if you really need to put it to work! I was lucky enough to be able to get both but for the $$ the Scout is the real deal.
Good call! 4-Max is perfect, but the Scout holds its own for the bucks.
But DAMN! Calling it a war wagon was the very coolest way I ever heard!!!
Aus10 from cold steel is my favorite non super steel or maybe I should say non powdered steel. It takes an adge like vg10 and holds it like 154cm or better. It's great!!
YES! Great description.
Ahhh, I've been waiting for this video. Not that I needed to watch it. I already received my Scout. I just love to watch the enthusiasm for the 4Max,
NICE!
wolfie13s His enthusiasm for Cold Steel (especially the 4Max) is definitely infectious! He’s the reason I’ve quickly become a Cold Steel fanboy in recent years. Whenever I see something new and awesome in their lineup, I always anxiously await his review.
I'm a born again Cold Steeler!
Here from Birdshot IV.... Glad they told me about this channel. You do good work Sir. Subbed and liked. Love what you do.....thanks.
Awesome! Thank you for subbing! Birdshot are good folks.
If you want a large Cold Steel folder in Aus10 consider the Spartan. It has a half inch longer blade and a much lower price than the 4 Max scout.
I have one. It's a great knife, too.
Wait do people not know that aus 10a is a decent steel? Cedric & Ada put it slightly better than 154cm as far as edge retention in his tests. I haven't heard anything bad about it. Heck, even CS's aus 8a is good stuff. CS has consistently good heat treats which is going to be more important than the specific steel type anyways. I can understand people maybe not liking the feel of the handle material since that's subjective, but complaining about the blade steel here is weird.
Yeah, I think the "AUS" part throws them off.
It's not even the alloy of steel, it buying/ using more expensive steel then not grinding it thin or pushing the Hard and only for marketing! Blahckk!
They had the top 4max for 171 and the scout for 74, so I bought both of em...still waiting on shipping ...can't wait till they get here ! Only bought the scout because I watched this video, saw how tough it was...no poser here...both awesome. ACTION! Not Words haha
Dang, that's a great deal! Nice!
Great review, nothing wrong with Aus-8. Most manufacturers who use Aus-8 thin their blades to much. Ontario Rat, also uses Aus-8. great lil knife but blades to thin and the liner lock sucks. Also, one thing I like to see in reviews is real life cutting. I have hard use knives but never would I chop into lumber/timber, that's were machetes,hatchets, and axes come into play. Right tool for the right job kinda thing. Butcher something with the test knife, bone and sinew and even meat can dull a knife too. Different types of cardboard, ropes,cordage(dry and wet). But yes the 4-Max Scout is a beast of a knife. Nice thick blade, easy to sharpen, Triad lock, diffently made for hard use.
People miss out, because they get caught up in steel stuff.
Very awesome reply! It's fun to look at chemistry and rarer alloys seem more worth spending on, but I can get caught up in emotional attachments and spun up on more available alloys being"lesser"
I have never been a big Cold Steel fan but Josh you are starting to make me a believer I love the 4max scout it was like a timex watch it took a licking and kept on ticking going to get one 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Nice! I am glad you're getting one.
Just ordered one! thank you for your videos
Awesome! You'll love it. Thank you for watching!
Dude! I'm sold, I'm ordering one this Friday. And yes I always wanted one, but couldn't afford it and now I can. Cold steel was looking out for people like me!!!! Also is the knife in the beginning of the video with the carbon fiber, or canves scales a cold steel, or a real Demco?
There's a Cold Steel, the blue one, and a Demko custom, the CF one. Awesome that you're getting one!
Hmm why are people complaining about the steel on it you can have 3 for the price of one normal 4max and feel better about beating the crap out of them. Thanks for the proper review mr.slash 👍
Thank you for watching!
I just got mine ordered. Thanks for the video.
Hope you enjoy it!
Love my 4Max Scout!!! It's more blade, than I'll ever need...
Jedi Jimislash has found his light saber my the force be with you.
I have a Voyager with AUS 10 and Grivex and never worried about its durability, so I have zero qualms with the materials chosen. The thing that’s going to make me purchase this version over the full fat 4-Max is I can beat the snot out of it and not cringe. I do have to say I’m a little surprised it weighs more than it’s older brother.
Stainless liners, most likely.
Jimislash Yeah, that occurred to me when I actually stopped and thought about it for a minute. 😂
I would love to see them offer this knife with a wide tanto point. Almost like a Medford praetorian
Oh, that would be awesome!
I would love this knife in a FAT Tanto shaped like a Recon 1 but wider!!!! You're on to something there my friend! Cold Steel are you listening?
That is freakin awesome Sir! Thank you!
Thank you.
3:55 the mystery hole according to a cold steel video I saw, was when during testing they wanted to make sure it didn't cut the company owners hand as he used it during a safari! Pretty cool company, I have a bunch of their knives. The have been sold to a Texas based company. We will see what the future holds.
Oh yeah, excellent review, I am a new subscriber👍👍
Thank you for subbing! So far, so good. It's almost two years into the GSM buyout, and they're still putting out the knives Cold Steel has been known for.
I got GSM Engage. I'm not as paranoid as I was after getting word of the sale. I didn't think of panic buying then. I'm thinking the 4 Max elite because of S35VN and G-10. I been watching videos on 4 Max. I like a big knife. Strange but I just took out Engage to get at some car signal bulbs in clear plastic and it seemed too big for the job, but it wasn't an issue of long, wide blade, just being careful not to cut towards myself or have fingers in the way. 4 Max is beefy, large and tough, still sharp. LTC always wanted Cold Steel to be the sharpest, toughest knives. I wonder how many cheapie "Wonder knives" he easily demolished and ruined. I've seen him at parking lot event and Blade West 2022 in SLC, UT, but he's not the approachable type and doesn't need to be to do what he does, but it would be fun to ask him about his knife experiences before Cold Steel was started up. Like what was his first knife and his favorite knife as a teen.
My man!!! You made me buy the 4-Max, and now maybe this?!
It's awesome!
This is gonna be my first Aus10 experience. So far, everyone who did cutting tests said it's a bit better than the ol' CTS BD1. So, since my Rajah II is still a 2015 model with that steel on it, and I've already beaten the crap outta it and it still hasn't weakened since, I'm probably gonna be really happy.
You will be. :) It's good stuff.
@@Jimislash Well, guess what arrived today 😏
@@soulzzplaysgames YES!!!!
I only have one with CTS BD1... It says CTS BD1N. It's a different brand than Cold Steel. If AUS-10 is nice user steel than that's just fine! I want to see more why LCT couldn't get enough CTS XHP.
I have CS Voyager in AUS10. Zero complaints. A lot of steel snobs don't even use their knives or know how to sharpen them. Solid freakin' vid my man. Another amazingly budget friendly hard use blade is the Gerber Strongarm
I own a usa 4 max wich was bloody expensive back in the day in Holland but for that price i think more people are going to get their hands on one.
Yes, this is a great opportunity to get about 99% of the same knife in hand.
The champion of value in a knife. Best knife for the money by a country mile!!!
Easily.
Awesome and sharp after that beating wow love it!
You can't beat this knife.
A bit late to the party but just pulled the trigger on this one. Looking forward to it even more after watching this!
Awesome! It's a great knife.
Nice video Slash. I knew I could count on a good beating on the AUS 10 blade and it performed well. It is refreshing to see a different blade steel other than D2 which has been flooding the budget market for 2 years.
Yeah, they did a good job on this one. Thank you for watching.
YEAH! nothing bums me out the way D2 or S30V being the only options or blacked out models. I wish at least the major folder makers would move away from those things
Great video man just orderd my self one of these and looking forward to get it
Awesome! It's a great blade.
20CV is amazing but AUS-10 was practically considered a Supersteel for half a century. Not many alloys I'd pick over AUS-10.
Really? I didn't know that. Can you send me that info? That's really cool.
@@Jimislash Here's the earliest example I can find of Cold Steel marketing AUS-10: www.bladeforums.com/threads/aus10a.1563342/
I had thought the regular use of AUS-10 went way further back but I guess the first production catalog reference was in the 1999 Cold Steel catalog: sales.coldsteel.com/cs_images/1999catalog.pdf
(See the Triple Action)
"WHATISAUS 10A? Cold Steel’s commitment to producing the finest cutlery in the world starts with procuring the finest materials. Five years ago we discovered AUS 10A, a high carbon stainless made in Japan. We tested AUS 10A, along with every other Japanese-made stainless suitable for knifemaking. Some steels showed promise, but weaknesses became apparent when we flexed them in a vise and began cutting rope. The only equal to our AUS 8A in strength and toughness was AUS 10A; however, the big breakthrough was that it exceeded AUS 8A by an honest 20% in edge holding ability, giving it a wide performance advantage over ATS-34, ATS-55 and 440V."
The marketing claim of an edge holding performance advantage over 440V (S90V in modern nomenclature) is obvious BS, but to say it was the best Stainless coming out of Japan in the 80's-90's probably isn't an exaggeration (I still can't find a reference to its actual origin, most of the best steel used in the 90's was just developed in the nebulous "Post War" era).
Anyway, for decades AUS-10 was only used by Cold Steel on their absolute best products and I remember for years and years being highly envious of anything made in AUS-10, that we're getting it in the 4Max now makes me flat out giddy.
I have to use a lot of personal restraint to avoid going and buying one example of everything they're making in AUS-10 right now.
I like the idea of using some cheaper hardware to bring down the price hopefully they head toward options for what steel you want on whichever knife design I wish they would bring back the master Hunter in 3v
3V is so nice for a fixed blade.
I have the American made 4 max and am getting the scout!
That is all you need. :)
I prefer the grivory handle over the G10.
It's lighter and at least as tough/durable.
I once hit the handle of the Voyager Large CP with a cold chisel. Just to test how tough it is.
No dents or scratch, nothing.
Do that with G10 and it will get ugly. The glass will show it's white face.
I don't get the hate towards grivory.
@@Jimislash
It's just snobbism, about G10 and Micarta are. Not realism.
Those cheap grivory/zytel type of handles are extremely tough and wear resistent.
@@Jimislash
I will add to that. They are my preferred knife handle material on a folder. The Grivory toughness as can be seen on the Voyager also.
On fixed knives I like the Rubber type a lot. Very grippy. As can be seen with a Mora Companion or the 7 series, 711/731/748mg/749.
Another home run Cold Steel!
They did a great job.
Great review sir!
:) Thank you.
I have the AD10 the baby 4MAX AND ORDERD THE SCOUT GOT IT FOR 73.00 ON AMAZON THE SELLER IS COLD STEEL GET THEM WHILE UPO CAN
I thought I was crazy owning two 4max scouts, you definitely made me want to order a few more. Lol
Yes indeedy Ms. McCreedy! That's a whole mess of 4MAX goodness! And a solid beatdown! This I can afford and the steel is great! Awesome video!
AWESOME!!! Thank you!
It just shaved Jimislash Belly Hair.
Now that I know it can cut Barb Wire, I'm getting one. Bwuaaaha!
Thanks for the video my Bladed Brother!!!
Lol! Thank you for watching.
I took this knife out to the moutians of b.c with nothing but cofidents. A must buy.
That's awesome! Great recommendation.
I'm a HUGE Cold Steel Fan , and this 4Max Scout seams like another Awesome knife from CS , and I love the AUS-10 on my Voyagers and my Spartan but CS is known for using S35VN on knives as low as $70.00 , so Why Not use S35VN on this knife ??? I thought the same way about the Espada , Why Not ?? Either Way , I'm still obviously going to buy one , it's still well worth the money , imo
If folks get caught up in the steel of this knife, they will miss out on an awesome blade.
@@Jimislash -- Absolutely, don't take me the wrong way , I know I won't be missing out on it . ⚔🖖
Looks like another rock solid knife from Cold Steel!! Love the Pyromania shirt...lol!!!
As a larger American, I am relegated to rock shirts or wolves. :)
Jimislash 🤣😂
You are right on the money!!!
Thank you!
Hi Joshua I just ordered my scout 😀 today 04/24/20 they just became available at white mountain Knives 😀 yippie Kia mother 😂
Nice!!
Looks like they put a smaller pivot on the scout.... Wonder why... Great review, thanks for sharing!
Is it a smaller pivot or just smaller head?
@@Jimislash I'm not sure. I was hoping you could tell me. Unfortunately, I do not own this knife.... YET! It just looks like a smaller pivot on video.... Thanks again!
this is a nice blade ! never had a problem with CS Aus10...
They definitely do it right.
You can get it for $80 plus $5 in shipping now.
WHAT?!?!? WHERE!?!?!
Jimislash Knifeworks and Nagornyknives.
@@jonnyboat2 Awesome! Thank you.
It’s not the metal it’s the heat treatment buck knives proved that 49 yers ago, cold steel and spyderco does a great job heat treatment
That's a badass shirt man.👍 I need this knife
Yes you do! It's awesome!
I think some mistake aus10 for aus8 which is very different and much worse. I just wish that the new sr1 used aus10 instead of 8cr
We'll beat it up, too. :)
Found one in a gun shop this past weekend for $85 couldn’t pass it up
Nice pick up!
I bought one because of your video. This thing makes my other knives feel insecure😂
It does that. :)
Do you have any opinion on the Air Lite? I see the value in the scout, but the aus 10 in the air lite series is a little weird considering the code 4 costs less and uses s35vn
I like the Air Lite. I bought one. However, for what you are getting, there are too many Cold Steel in the price area and below that I would get first. It's a great knife, but not the first one I would grab at that price.
Great video my friend!!
Thank you!
This is #2 in my “next purchase list” (only thing in front of it is the rajah 2)
That's a good list. Both awesome knives.
If it was grippy g10 for that price with ctsxhp then hell yeah I would get it. I'll keep my 20cv 4max for now.
Don't you DARE say CTS-XHP, that's my favorite steel and it's nearly fallen off every design. It makes my inner child sad....
I'm keeping mine, too, but I'll be getting more Scouts.
@@timbrwolf2238 I have the black g10 ultimate hunter in ctsxhp, used it to strip wire and tons of boxes. Love it
I bought the 4Max Scout on Knife Works for $82.95! No excuses people. I have the USA made version as well. But for the money, this is a BEAST of a knife at this price point! Coming from a 'Steel Snob' too, this is worth every penny for a knife to keep in your pocket to beat on and it sharpens right back up with ease!
This guy gets it!!! :)
Hi Joshua hope you and the family are doing well I just received my Cold Steel Scout today and you are wrong it is not a beast it is SCOUTZILLA LOL :-)
That's awesome!
To quote the Man: " freaking war wagon when hard using a knife"
I want one of these, but I like a pointier point like the sr1 clip point another beast
There is a guy who ground a clip point onto his 4 Max. I'd like one like that.
HELL yeah! Buy a ready made store bought knife and make it what you wanted!!!!
Dang. Now I have to buy one of these!
Yes, you do. :)
@@Jimislash I have a new one on the way for $90 and some change. See what you have done to me!
@@johnchastain4351 You can't trust an addict to wave you off.
Love your videos jimislash I went and bought one after seeing this I have a question do you think the sr1 lite is as strong as the 4 max scout?
It might not be as strong, due to the full liners on the Scout, but it's gotta be pretty close. I can't kill it.
@@Jimislash makes sense thanks for the reply!
Great knife. Oh yes, YES🗡️👌🇧🇻🍻
YES! INDEED!!! :)
mine will be a scouttlemax
4max scout + snaggletooth if thats possible
THE NEXT EVOLUTION IN SNAGGLEMAX TECHNOLOGY
That sounds like a plan.
Love the 4max but feel we didint need a cheep version
We did; for those who can't afford the expensive one. It's an awesome budget knife.
@@Jimislash I just wanted a year to get new badass cold steel stuff like every year and I got a bunch of cheeper copys that's cool but mayby new stuff to I mean there was some new stuff but mostly copy's to me it seems I'm the only guy that feels this way 😕
It would help if you brought the end you're chopping on more towards the sawhorse! Just saying
I'm just trying to practice the motion and the jarring on my joints. But what you say makes sense.
Hi, you seem to be a 4 max expert. I am really confused between 4 max, scout and ad10. Size of the knife is not an issue, just interms of toughness, which one is the best?
They are going to be equally tough. It's going to come down to what size knife you want to have. If I had to choose, and size wasn't an issue, the 4-Max wins. The 4-Max is my favorite all-time knife. :) If they are both equally tough, why not get a better grip and 1/2" more blade?
@@Jimislash perfect. What do you have to say about scout and 4 max? Are they equally tough? If price is not an issue, is 4 max stronger than scout?
Man it cracks me up whenever you just start pulling 4Max’s out of nowhere 🤣 how many do you have including all 3 versions?
11...plus two customs. :)
@@Jimislash awesome, 4Max heaven!!!
So sir which one is better cold steel spartan vs this cold steel 4 max????
This 4-Max. :)
Will get one when time and deal is right! Darn think like 80% of my knives is your fault =P Nahh joking after your great tips and look at them!
:) I accept the blame. Get one!
Eu aqui no Brasil, sonhando com um canivete desse, e o cara tacando o canivete na madeira...kkkk...mas adorei o vídeo... esse é um sonho de consumo que jamais irei realizar... mas adorei o canal e já me inscrevi... sucesso brother.
:) Thank you for watching and subbing!
I was just considering the Native 5. Which seems silly now, when this is a cheaper knife :O
This knife will make you happier. :)
ITS 2021 IF YOUR STILL ON THE FENCE ABOUT A 4 MAX OR 4 MAX SCOUT.... GOOD STAY THERE MORE FOR ME 🤣🤣🤣🤣 all seriousness tho GET ONE GET TWO OR THREE OR 5 IF YOU CAN I PROMISE YOU WILL LOVE IT