It's not Betty or Veronica. It's Betty and Veronica! Serious note - I'd take the AD10 for EDC but I'd rock the 4 Max for outdoors. In fact, I prefer fixed blade for outdoors with a folder back-up.
Good observation. I saw an interview with Andrew Demko. He said the 4 Max was supposed to be an AD-10 XL, but the handle didn’t scale up well, so he designed a new handle for it. The blade is just a 4” version of the AD-10 blade.
Hold my O'Douls! *Whips out Rajah II* Three (3) ounces (another Snickers bar) heavier than the 4-Max Scout, but WAY better as a camp knife. It clears brush, it chops wood, it slices food, it fends off the camper in the tent next door who got bitten by a zombie last night!
I stone washed the blade on my AD10. It is one of my preferred EDC. I love my 4max it's a little big to carry at work "scary" for co workers. The 4max is my going out into the woods carry.
This was the video that persuaded me to go for the 4 Max Scout. Tomorrow I take delivery of my AD 10! Couldn't resist seeing the difference for myself, trouble is now I'm already thinking AD 15!
i love when folks tell me a knife weighs to much , i was a raised carrying a buck 110 in my front pocket of my levis . that thing had to weigh 8 pounds! i still have that knife, though now i use it as a doorstop on the barn.
Jimmy , thank you personally as my knife family psychiatrist. You renewed my romance with cold steel. My 4max scout is awesome!!! Aus 10 sharpens so nicely!!!! Thanks DR. I mean Jimmy lol
Cold Steel's Aus-10a is such a great steel. The few CS knives that I had that were Aus-10a, held up so unbelievably great. Cold Steel always does a great job with their heat treating. Even their 8cr13mov holds up better than their competitors 8cr13mov. Great video once again Jimislash. 4-Max Scout for the win.
4 Max has my vote. Have both knives. AD10 feels more chunky and out of balance in "my hand" than 4 Max Scout. Both great knives. For finer cutting AD10 wins for me but blade is ground thinner. Heavy duty work especially on defensive aspect 4 Max Scout is what is in my pocket.
Had the Scout in my pocket for some time now, but couldn’t withstand the urge of buying my 3rd AD10 last week... What I’m trying to say is, even after carrying and (lightly) using the Scout, I still have a preference for the AD10 (beter materials, best fit in hand, lovely style, great finish), be it a very little preference...
that 4 Maxx is a beast.ive never had aus 10 before.im really impressed thx u for the review.i would carry that Maxx 4 edc still just because I like big hefty blades.
people like to tease the jemislash for his love of lanyards, but forget that jimislash hard uses knives, and there is a specific use for lanyards esp. when it comes to chopping!
I think they both look good but for me and my weak wrists both would be too much. I'd take the ultimate hunter and be happy. As always Joshua, great video brother. Thank you.
@@Jimislash well its for family so my limit is about $75. N thanks I'll definitely check it out! If you have any other suggestions plz don't hesitate. Merry PIFMUS n happy holidays to you and your family n all our brothers and sisters in the knife community!
I did the thing Josh.... It hurt but I did it. I did it because all the Cold Steel news... What made it hurt so bad was that I just ordered a Kailash blade I'd been saving up for right before the news broke about Cold Steel. So I had to pick between a AD10 and a AD15.... So I got a 4MAX instead. Haha 😂
I like when you said the people who were right said 4 max. I have an AD10 and it’s amazing but I’m trying to decide between a recon1 and the 4max scout?
It's like comparing a Cadillac to a pickup truck. I have the hollow grind/OG version of the AD10 so it slices better. Use my Drop Forge survival for chopping.
I didn't know which one to go for. Until now. I'd go for the 4 Max Scout. Also; because, I only have 2 Cold Steel folders. Now, here's one for you, ok. Would you do the same test between the Rajah and the Espada XL?
Camping I go with a fixed blade, hand saw and axe all day. But between these two folders I choose the 4-max scout simply because of affordability. This is the way
I think I would go with the 4 max scout. Better texture on the handle, and aus10 is fairly easy to sharpen in the field. Plus, it seems to have a little more chopping power, in case one of those armadillos tries to exact vengeance.
Thanks a lot for comparison. I am for 4max: if a beast, so the beast. Can you recomande Spartan or 4max? In this case I am undecided, mainly in holding
That 4 max with the aus 10a was suprising that it held up better vs the S35vn. I'm still waiting for my 4max scout running late. Thanks for sharring. Just carious do you sharpen your own knives?.
@@Jimislash I was just carious I hand sharpen for awhile now and just cant ever get my knives razor sharp. Thinking about getting the worshop mabye. Just w ok wondered how you sharpened yours knives. Thanks
@@scottysurvival I use a KME. Before that I used a Spyderco Sharpmaker. I do some stuff on stones, but I'm not that good. I can get the blades to be hair popping sharp, but they're wonky looking. :)
Like you said, the longer handle on the 4 max probably makes it easier to use for hard work. In the long run I bet the s35 steel lasts better than aus10 but who cares if your hands are throbbin
I saw a video before (or maybe it was an article I don't remember) where they tested some steels and I remember that s35 didn't stay shaving sharp for very long but it stayed in that "pretty sharp" zone for a long time. Maybe you're right though since I haven't heard anything bad yet about aus 10
I really like your video comparing the 4max scout and AD10, I like the 4max scout better because it's a bigger knife and feels good in the hand. I was actually at a friend's house with my 4max scout, and we had a fire going and I batoned with the 4max scout, my friend said you never split that log in half, and I did it work, never done that before and my 4max scout still sharp not even a mark on it, so yes I'd take it camping, hiking and survival, it's a very tuff knife
I have both the 4 Max Elite and the Scout. While one probably isn't much better than the other , I still prefer the Elite for its more premium materials. That's the knife snob in me I suppose
Nice job... the SR1 is my camp knife. Chose it over the AD10 because It has a little longer 90 deg spine area for striking a fero rod. It replaced a mora bushcraft and schrade full tang for this role... no regrets. Fixed blades are illegal to conceal in my state, so I wanted a strong folder for this reason. no complaints at all with the SR1.
Very few, if any, reviewers mention handle width/thickness. It looks thinner from the videos and pics but is the 4-Max Scout's handle as thick as the AD10? Thanks.
If given the choice I'd pick the 4 Max just because bigger is better...that's what she said right?😂 Not that I would turn the AD-10 down if it was put in my pockets with a Merry Christmas note.
@@Jimislash I know I have one...and all the girls just giggle and claim its soooooo cute. So I try to impress with my ranch boss II and just get meh... that's normal. I mean I want to see their eyes pop out when I bring our a 4 Max...but not run screaming if I whipped out something like a Rajah II .
Damn Jimi you put in some work on those knives . You sold me on the 4 Max Scout thanks . I'm starting to believe you have a slight affinity to Cold Steel Knives 😂
WHICH DO YOU CHOOSE? WHY?
Rajah 2 😂
@@WillEDC That's definitely a good choice.
It's not Betty or Veronica. It's Betty and Veronica!
Serious note - I'd take the AD10 for EDC but I'd rock the 4 Max for outdoors. In fact, I prefer fixed blade for outdoors with a folder back-up.
4 max scout
4max scout
I want them both!
Same here!
I like it. 4 max scout on the way!
Awesome!
I would go with the 4-max scout for sure
Excellent comparison
Thank you!
Don’t have an AD-10 but my 4-MAX scout is a beast. Love it. AD-10 looks almost like a smaller version.
It's smaller in some areas. The circumference of the grip doesn't seem smaller. Still an awesome knife.
Good observation. I saw an interview with Andrew Demko. He said the 4 Max was supposed to be an AD-10 XL, but the handle didn’t scale up well, so he designed a new handle for it. The blade is just a 4” version of the AD-10 blade.
Hold my O'Douls!
*Whips out Rajah II*
Three (3) ounces (another Snickers bar) heavier than the 4-Max Scout, but WAY better as a camp knife. It clears brush, it chops wood, it slices food, it fends off the camper in the tent next door who got bitten by a zombie last night!
Definitely.
Loved my AD 10
Only have my 4Max left between the 2 !
I stone washed the blade on my AD10. It is one of my preferred EDC. I love my 4max it's a little big to carry at work "scary" for co workers. The 4max is my going out into the woods carry.
That sounds right. I need a stone wash on my AD10. Good idea.
@@Jimislash the stone wash on the 4max scout looks amazing that what I really wish I could have on my AD10.
Im all the way for the 4 MAX Scout, saved my life when i was attacked by...my mother in law!Hello from Greece!
LOL! It's just strong enough for that.
Either one is good for the outdoors.. AD10 light/edc version 4MAX heavy version.👍👍
Pocket bushman or the Rajah-ll.. Also good for camping/outdoors..
😎
Those are great, as well.
This was the video that persuaded me to go for the 4 Max Scout.
Tomorrow I take delivery of my AD 10! Couldn't resist seeing the difference for myself, trouble is now I'm already thinking AD 15!
Lol, that's how it goes. All great blades. Thank you for watching.
i love when folks tell me a knife weighs to much , i was a raised carrying a buck 110 in my front pocket of my levis .
that thing had to weigh 8 pounds! i still have that knife, though now i use it as a doorstop on the barn.
Lol! No kidding. I was 8 with a 112. Lol, doorstop. I still have mine, as well.
I have both of these.. but the one i use (and beat up the most) is an AD-10 lite.
I ordered both.
Got the 4max Scout today, wow epic Demko designed. Still waiting for the AD10.
Jimmy , thank you personally as my knife family psychiatrist. You renewed my romance with cold steel. My 4max scout is awesome!!! Aus 10 sharpens so nicely!!!! Thanks DR. I mean Jimmy lol
Awesome! Glad to hear that.
Thanks for the demo!
You are welcome!
For camping the 4 max all day every day, it’s a beast for getting work done.
Yeah, it is. Straight monster.
I love them both, just to poor to buy them sadly.
The 4MAX as an outdoor, if I had to choose, but that AD10 is a great one.
Very informative comparison. Thanks for the video
Thank you for watching!
I’m new to this channel and so far I’m diggin’ it! Loving big Cold Steel knives with no apologies.
Awesome! Thank you!
@@Jimislash No man, thank you. Liked, subscribed, hit the bell icon. Keep it up.
So you're saying for maximum use, go with a 4MAX scout. I like it!
Yes!
Jimislash, single handedly keeping the cardboard industry afloat.
I'm doing my best for all peoples and industries. :)
Thank you Sir.
You are welcome.
I wish I could get my hands on a 4 Max.
Cold Steel's Aus-10a is such a great steel. The few CS knives that I had that were Aus-10a, held up so unbelievably great. Cold Steel always does a great job with their heat treating. Even their 8cr13mov holds up better than their competitors 8cr13mov. Great video once again Jimislash. 4-Max Scout for the win.
Thank you!
Very interesting comparison. For those of us that don't camp, it is still a very interesting video.
I need to camp more...or at all.
4 Max has my vote. Have both knives. AD10 feels more chunky and out of balance in "my hand" than 4 Max Scout. Both great knives. For finer cutting AD10 wins for me but blade is ground thinner. Heavy duty work especially on defensive aspect 4 Max Scout is what is in my pocket.
Good choice!
Had the Scout in my pocket for some time now, but couldn’t withstand the urge of buying my 3rd AD10 last week...
What I’m trying to say is, even after carrying and (lightly) using the Scout, I still have a preference for the AD10 (beter materials, best fit in hand, lovely style, great finish), be it a very little preference...
AD10 is sweet. I understand that multiple knife urge.
@@Jimislash I know you do! If anyone does, it’s you... 😅
I just tested my 4 max scout and I went through 3 inch pine no problems. Plus a 2×4 and the fucking thing is still sharp
I have an AD10 coming for $123. I have an 10A in a Voyager with a 5.5 clip point blade that I got in the $60s.
Nice pick ups. Great knives. Great price.
@@Jimislash Now I must figure out which one is my new church knife - I guess AD10 since it is fancier.
Good comparison!
Thank you!
Love my 4max scout!
Great blade.
I would love to own either one, can’t choose
Both are awesome.
Both are Great Knives for Sure. . I hope they do a Cold Steel AD20 to add to the Budget Awesomeness.
That would be cool. But that is a long ways off, if ever.
My AD10 is still in the box😁
Nice!
Both. Must have both.
Yes! That's the only correct answer.
There can only be one!!!!
4 Max Scout is definitely on my to buy list!
Nice! You won't be disappointed.
that 4 Maxx is a beast.ive never had aus 10 before.im really impressed thx u for the review.i would carry that Maxx 4 edc still just because I like big hefty blades.
Me too! I love the beefy stuff.
@@Jimislash im saving up to get 1 hopefully ill get 1 soon
4-Max all the way - absolute beast of a knife for all camp purposes and it keeps me from taking that extra candy bar with me
There you go. Good thinking. Good planning. :)
Great comparison. Definitely 4max for a camp knife but both I want to add to the collection! Great video 👍
people like to tease the jemislash for his love of lanyards, but forget that jimislash hard uses knives, and there is a specific use for lanyards esp. when it comes to chopping!
4 max scout definitely I don’t have either but it looks like I would choose 4 max scout
Both look great 👍 🇬🇧
I think they both look good but for me and my weak wrists both would be too much. I'd take the ultimate hunter and be happy.
As always Joshua, great video brother. Thank you.
Ultimate Hunter is AD10 1.0. Great knife. Thank you for your kind words. :)
Id go with the 4-max scout personally, that heftier blade helps a ton. I use a hatchet for most camping type purposes tho
Hatchet works much better for chopping, for sure.
I'd choose the AD-10 because I need room in my pocket for my candy bars! 😂😂
There you go. It's about priorities.
Re : Aus 10 a vs . S35v ... it's all in the heat/cryo treatment .
Jmo , based on experience .
CS has always excelled at this .
Tanks Jimi 🎅
You are right. Their AUS10 is awesome!
I’d go with the 4 max too. Especially if there’s bears where you camp 🏕 🐻 hahahahaha 🤣
Lol, definitely better against bears.
4Max for me but would love to have both
I want an AD10, bad!!
Great knife.
If you get bored with arm wrestling you could always take up professional Russian slap fighting.😉
Lol, I'm too much of a wuss. :)
Which is the best Cold Steel knife to give someone as a Christmas gift, who is new to knives in general as their very first edc?
How much you spending? You can't beat the American Lawman as an edc.
I agree. The American Lawman is hard to beat. My first was a Recon 1 with the Clip point. Also very hard to beat.
@@Jimislash well its for family so my limit is about $75. N thanks I'll definitely check it out! If you have any other suggestions plz don't hesitate. Merry PIFMUS n happy holidays to you and your family n all our brothers and sisters in the knife community!
You can find an airlite around that price. It is a strong light weight great edc.
Take a look at the SR1 lite! It doesn't get more Cold Steely than that when on a budget. Beast of a blade with the ultra-strong Tri-ad lock.
I did the thing Josh.... It hurt but I did it.
I did it because all the Cold Steel news... What made it hurt so bad was that I just ordered a Kailash blade I'd been saving up for right before the news broke about Cold Steel.
So I had to pick between a AD10 and a AD15.... So I got a 4MAX instead. Haha 😂
YES! NICE CHOICE!!! YOU WIN!!! :) Very cool!
4 max scout is so beautiful and my 4max is delayed by a day :( tomorrow will have to be christmas.
Oh dang...I love that extra tension, and I hate it. :)
Jimmy slash what do you think would happen if you reverse the knives and go ad10lite and 4max elite? Do a video my dude
That's a great idea.
@@Jimislash i look forward to it
I like when you said the people who were right said 4 max. I have an AD10 and it’s amazing but I’m trying to decide between a recon1 and the 4max scout?
Dang, that's a tough one. For EDC, you might go Recon.
@@Jimislash I ordered a 4 max scouts I had a Recon 1 and sold it to a coworker I miss it. Would like to find a Recon 1 XL
I was waiting to see what new cold steel retail was going to be ,seems high ,so I ordered 4 max scout this morning 👍
Good choice!
4 max for the win !!!!
It's like comparing a Cadillac to a pickup truck. I have the hollow grind/OG version of the AD10 so it slices better. Use my Drop Forge survival for chopping.
That's a great knife.
I want a 4Max Scout... I don't need a 4Max Scout... but I sure want one.
You need one. Don't tell yourself differently.
Don't have AD10, do have scout and use it first my edc. Tough knife
Man I really need to get a demko design
Yes, you do. There will be no turning back. This deserved two posts. :)
cold steel aus10 is close to cos and it beat d2 154cm and doubled vg10 in knife test cutting rope.
It's good stuff. I've been saying it for a long time.
I didn't know which one to go for. Until now. I'd go for the 4 Max Scout. Also; because, I only have 2 Cold Steel folders.
Now, here's one for you, ok. Would you do the same test between the Rajah and the Espada XL?
If I had an extra XL I would.
@@Jimislash how about the Large?
Camping I go with a fixed blade, hand saw and axe all day. But between these two folders I choose the 4-max scout simply because of affordability. This is the way
Definitely saw and axe is the way to go.
I think I would go with the 4 max scout. Better texture on the handle, and aus10 is fairly easy to sharpen in the field. Plus, it seems to have a little more chopping power, in case one of those armadillos tries to exact vengeance.
Dirty little beggars. :)
Thanks a lot for comparison. I am for 4max: if a beast, so the beast.
Can you recomande Spartan or 4max? In this case I am undecided, mainly in holding
The Scout or the Spartan? Dang, that's tough. I gotta go with the Scout but just barely. You'll be happy either way.
Hour do you go about sharpening your s35vn Jimi? What about your aus10?
S35VN and AUS10 I use any of the guided systems I have. Most of the time a good stropping takes care of what I need to get done.
Great demonstration! You confirmed why I like A10.
Call me crazy but when I go camping I chop with an axe?
Certainly. But that wouldn't be a fun contest.
That 4 max with the aus 10a was suprising that it held up better vs the S35vn. I'm still waiting for my 4max scout running late. Thanks for sharring. Just carious do you sharpen your own knives?.
I do sharpen my own knives.
@@Jimislash I was just carious I hand sharpen for awhile now and just cant ever get my knives razor sharp. Thinking about getting the worshop mabye. Just w ok wondered how you sharpened yours knives. Thanks
@@scottysurvival I use a KME. Before that I used a Spyderco Sharpmaker. I do some stuff on stones, but I'm not that good. I can get the blades to be hair popping sharp, but they're wonky looking. :)
@@Jimislash thank you. I'm going to look into those
4 Max Scout because it is a monster and is a great deal.
Exactamundo.
The scout for camping for sure because of the weight and size
That's what I was thinking.
Like you said, the longer handle on the 4 max probably makes it easier to use for hard work.
In the long run I bet the s35 steel lasts better than aus10 but who cares if your hands are throbbin
How can you say that about the steels? S35VN didn't last better in the short run.
I saw a video before (or maybe it was an article I don't remember) where they tested some steels and I remember that s35 didn't stay shaving sharp for very long but it stayed in that "pretty sharp" zone for a long time. Maybe you're right though since I haven't heard anything bad yet about aus 10
@@sporg919 Oh, I see. That makes sense. So, it stays usable longer.
4MaxScout: what she (mrs JimiSlash) said!
That's what she said.
I really like your video comparing the 4max scout and AD10, I like the 4max scout better because it's a bigger knife and feels good in the hand. I was actually at a friend's house with my 4max scout, and we had a fire going and I batoned with the 4max scout, my friend said you never split that log in half, and I did it work, never done that before and my 4max scout still sharp not even a mark on it, so yes I'd take it camping, hiking and survival, it's a very tuff knife
Thank you for the back up! It's a real beast. It does feel great in hand.
Yeah the 4 max would be better for camping but I overall like the ad-10 better
I can understand that.
Interesting stuff
Ive been dying to get a 4max scout the finances havnt allowed it.
Yeah, it's been a tough year for a lot of folks.
Somebody is sure to giving one away.
Just got My 4 Max scout today already in love and yes I'm going to edc it lol 😂😜🤘
Nice! Great blade!
I have both the 4 Max Elite and the Scout. While one probably isn't much better than the other , I still prefer the Elite for its more premium materials. That's the knife snob in me I suppose
Me too. :)
Nice job... the SR1 is my camp knife. Chose it over the AD10 because It has a little longer 90 deg spine area for striking a fero rod. It replaced a mora bushcraft and schrade full tang for this role... no regrets. Fixed blades are illegal to conceal in my state, so I wanted a strong folder for this reason. no complaints at all with the SR1.
Oh, SR1 would be great. Good choice.
Didn't realize that the 4 max was that much bigger than the ad10
4max scout but it would be a back up blade always carry schf43 sabre ground for main camp blade
Is that the Jessica X?
Yes I got one of the fourth run from smkw and have beat the crap out of it testing and am amazed how it held up
Very few, if any, reviewers mention handle width/thickness. It looks thinner from the videos and pics but is the 4-Max Scout's handle as thick as the AD10? Thanks.
I am going to check this out and get back to you. But you have to reply to this in a day or so. That way, I'll remember.
@@Jimislash Thanks, and I know what you mean. I'm lucky I remember my name sometimes.
@@Jimislash Any luck getting the measurement? Thanks.
If given the choice I'd pick the 4 Max just because bigger is better...that's what she said right?😂 Not that I would turn the AD-10 down if it was put in my pockets with a Merry Christmas note.
Nothing wrong with a Micro Recon.
@@Jimislash I know I have one...and all the girls just giggle and claim its soooooo cute. So I try to impress with my ranch boss II and just get meh... that's normal. I mean I want to see their eyes pop out when I bring our a 4 Max...but not run screaming if I whipped out something like a Rajah II .
I like the 4 max scout
Great knife. Hard to beat at that price.
I heard you were in to Arm wrestling! Another knife youtuber told me I do believe. I to follow that community quite heavily. Breznk is still the 🐐!
Oh, I love Brzenk. Definitely the GOAT! I'm not any good, but I love it.
Yeah I keep up with it quite a bit. These guys like larrat and Todd are really getting arm wrestling out there via TH-cam.
@@brandon87ize Yeah, it's blowing up. The ArmBet app is helping, too.
Damn Jimi you put in some work on those knives . You sold me on the 4 Max Scout thanks . I'm starting to believe you have a slight affinity to Cold Steel Knives 😂
I love Cold Steel. :)
Mr.Slash, your spot on. It’s about the Torque on the 4 max My. Daughter, Same as your wife can Handle.👍
Strictly as a camp knife, it is not close. Thank you for watching.
Damn bro! both of those look like small folders in your hands lol
Now choose any of the above against the Maxace Goliath 🤔
That's a great knife. Tough to choose.
Sounds like you were having fun with all that wacking on that old hard wood 🤣🤣🤣 sorry I couldn't help myself!
:) It was fun.
4 max scout. I would rather beat on 8cr13mov and grivex than the nicer materials of the ad10.
Scout has AUS10A. And it showed up much better than S35VN on this testing.
@@Jimislash AUS10A? I had no idea...now I like it even better!
4 max! Btw you sounded like Joe Peace when you sped up the video!
Lol!
Never handled either. I like the look of the AD10 more.
It's a really cool knife. Great looking. Great in hand.
the heavier one with the tuffer steel 😉
That seems the way to go.
I’d choose the 4 max. I’d like one but a bit out of the budget.
The Scout isn't too bad.
The AD10 is awesome, no doubt. However I would take the 4 Max Scout.
Good choice.
@@Jimislash AD10 vs SR1 would be an interesting battle though. I love Tanto blades. 4 Max Tanto would be insane!