For me, the Chieftan is the short king of combat ships. It's small, agile and takes so much punishment you'd think it has a thing for it. Add on the fact that it's hardpoints are better than most other ships (even ones costing 5x and weighing 100x), there's almost nothing that packs the same overall package
Good video series you got there mate, keep it up!! Fell in love with the chief one ever since I've seen the pilots vid about it. Was the first ship that I engineered to 100%, haven't looked back since. I'm doing threat 8 assassinations with it with no troubles. I've also got a fully engineered fdl, but I still prefer prefer the chief, since it's a lot more durable against phasing weaponry . And yes, thargoids really don't like it. This ship alone has earned me 9bn credits in AX bonds since the war started. PS: create a dedicated fire group for the gauss canons , using 2 groups of 1 medium, 1 small gauss each and fire them alternatingly. Will keep you below 20% heat when firing with a heat sink active, meaning the thargoid should not hit you at all if you're using your laterals to dodge their attacks.
Thanks bud - I need to rework all the fire-groups on my Chief, so I'll bear that in mind - I'm working on the Challenger at the moment for the next vid, but given the inevitable comparisons to the Chief, I'll be back in there shortly to make some adjustments. It's crazy how much money the war is bringing in - just an couple of hours this evening in the Ge system pushed my credits back into a healthy place, and that's after buying a load of ships recently, plus a trip to Jameson's Memorial to stock up on internal components to go around. o7
I picked one up just for the looks and was immediately surprised by its capabilities in combat. After outfitting my engineered modules, it’s my favorite ship next to the anaconda. Great video 👍
For the price, it's unbeatable IMO - as for the Anaconda, it's certainly a beast of a ship - once you get over the staggering price tag of any ship in that league and get used to the boaty handling of it.
@@gamingsnipsandbits id have to say that if i went harder at pvp, or ax combat, i would use the chief all day. especially since my squad all runs krait mk2
@@HouseShaw The Krait is all well and good, but I really dislike the limited distributor. Even after equivalent engineering, my Chieftan gets more rounds down-range and runs cooler, so for me it's no competition
@@bethtargett4304 wait the Krait has distributor limitation...? I think it's the other way round as Chief tends to not be able to silent run for long, and Krait has Size 7 distro as opposed to Chief's 6
That's the plan - looking at doing the Sidewinder next - it's a ship all commanders have experience in, and it gets dismissed as a basic starter ship and nothing more way too often.
@@gamingsnipsandbits agreed! Every ship has a purpose and it’s function. Sometimes, videos like this, open the mind of Commanders to experiment other things. Even the small ships are fun to play with. I’m excited to see all your ship videos. As a note: recommendations on engineering will be great. Any recommendation is awesome
She's worth a go - even if it's to impersonate a Imp pilot during the opening strike in a Combat Zone. Out of all the Gutamaya ships, at the moment it's my favourite of the four. As for the 'vette, it's a fine ship to use - rather partial to them myself. Something about using those two huge hardpoints to make sure that the enemy have no misunderstandings about the point you're trying to make.
Honestly, I had great fun taking my chieftain, Dirae, out to crack some Xeno skulls in the first days of the Thargoid incursion, but I’ve settled back into my SRB PAs to defend the Alliance from an equally vile threat: pirates. I’m just not quite good enough without friends or with FA off to take on a real Thargoid, and popping the little ones is only satisfying for so long.
Ooooh not sure how I missed that, but looking at pictures of them both, I think you're right - I'll head back to my carrier later and have a side by side look at them both
Never actually owned the Chief, but the other two.... they're treats if you like making weird loadouts. If you have Cytoscramblers and Pack Hounds, they're my favorite pairing with the C-series.
My friend made a month long event, where he took his multipurpose anaconda and turned focus a bit towards the jump range... Then told us to catch him, while he flew away towards colonia. At first I tried going with phantom with lasers, as I thought we won't have any options for rearming. So it was bassically an explorer with guns. Saying it didn't work is like saying nothing. So after a few days I returned to bubble with the intention with making completely new build for fedral assault ship, but when I spoke with my friend, who was born while PvP-ing, he asked why i didn't just go with fdl... When i explained to him, that I needed much greater jump range than Lance could offer me, he said that I should go with chieftain. So I did. Had some experience with eagle, so I took the risk of me being capable staying close to the target and fitted it with frags. Oh boy that was a massacre. Out of all the interdictions of that conda I think it escaped from me once. My friend (the one fleeing) had to ask me to remove some of the frags with the effects (like drag munitions and dazzle shells), so he could at have a chance to fight with me It was hell lot of fun
I wish f-dev had gotten their stuff together 4 years ago. I just can’t care enough to try again. The chieftain was one of my favorite ships and my best for anti Zeno for years.
You need to get a docking computer module for autodocking. The standard one does docking only and the advanced one does both docking and undocking. Hope this helps 🙂
The chieftain is a good ship but the Challenger is superior as it has greater armor and 7 hardpoints the maneuverability not as good as the chief but there is so little between them its worth sacrificing it for the greater amour and the increase in hardpoints
Personally, I'm more of a fan of the Chieftain, especially for the cost, but there really isn't a lot in it between the three of them - Chief mostly wins out on agility and cost (not that cost matters too much after a while in this game). That being said, I'm playing around with my Challenger at the moment, with aim of turning it into a shieldless AX build and results are good - it'll certainly take a beating - especially with it's capacity for more armour, but I've still got a little bit of work to do on it. I'll pop a review of it up at some point
Actually its slow and for cold orbiting u want it faster. With light weight armor you ending up having less armor in the end. I agree on the weapons part but the chief is ax Meta for a reason.
hehehe, i almost wish i hadn't been told about the Krait MkII, coz now i'm spoiled. I will probably never try out FDL for example... So many ships i don't want to bother with because the Krait is sooo good... i mean perma-boosting and having a fighter with it... it's just... so good....
@@adawg3032 Nah man, medium is premium. Yes, it's big. Yes, it has a lot of guns. Yes it can even has fighters. But good luck getting those guns to bear when the target is dancing all around you and you end up flailing helplessly while your backside gets remodelled to look like swiss cheese.
Next time, rather than waste time discussing trading (from ur title, that's not what any of us are here for), you could compare it to it's other Alliance brother/sister ships - I've been using a Crusader because i originally bought one because fighter bay! I've been enjoying killing scouts (i have zero engineering) and even spent hours shooting at an Interceptor..... Anyway, I've compared stats and i just can't see why *_the Chieftain_* is always said to be the best for AX combat... They all seem to have pros and cons.... (Crusader, Chieftain and Challenger) OOOH! Just got to the bit where you PROMISED a comparison! 😜← ↑ Comment for algorithm + 👍 'd #OldManPaxus Rating: ☆☆☆
I like to mention trade, mining ETC just to give a fuller picture - in case someone is thinking about using it as a multi-role ship 😀 As for the comparisons - the plan I've got is to use this as the benchmark for the three ships and then draw comparisons in the other two - they've all got their strengths and weaknesses, but some of them have more strengths than others. Either way, Vulture next 👍
@@gamingsnipsandbits Howdy! o7 I thought as much, i was really just going off the title, which led to my personal issue - Owning 2 Crusaders and having retrofitted one of them as a shieldless hull/armour tank for AX ops . If you have time, i'd love to hear what you think. I'm def going to buy one but not because of any comparisons i've made or seen but more because i haven't been using the fighter ANYWAY!!!
The Challenger can make do in AX combat, but generally the issue is that the shields on the Crusader aren't strong enough for it to work as a shield tank, and it loses considerable speed and maneuverability in comparison to the Chieftain as a tradeoff for being able to mount a fighter bay. The biggest drawback is that it's slow, which can't be overcome with clever flying skills, and this makes it a poor choice against Interceptors, which are quite fast for their size and firepower. Generally you want a ship with at least 500 m/s boost speed, and the Crusader fails this test. In addition it's not as tanky as the Chieftain and while with Gauss retains a similar DPS potential, overall there's not really any reason to bring one since the fighter is of limited use, if any, in AX combat, and the internal slots mean you're down on hull HP while also being slower and an easier target. The Challenger can be made to work; it offers similar or slightly better DPS while being a little bit slower and slightly more vulnerable to getting caught out due to slower max boost speed, but you can make it slightly tougher than the Chieftain as a meaningful tradeoff while still keeping a ~500 m/s boost speed. And its maneuverability is quite close to the Chieftain's as well, if you prefer a slightly tougher, less twitchy spacecraft. The other big con is that if you DO run a fighter for AX combat, the fighter can inadvertently enrage the swarm, it constantly dies, and it basically totally prevents playing with other CMDRs as fighters still cause lag spikes.
I outfitted a Chieftain for exploration just to make a stupid ship. It's an atrocious build and the AspX is so much better at it for less credits but it does feel like cheating to squeeze 55 Ly out of a combat vessel, even if it can't fight at all in that configuration.
The Chieftain is the only good ship in Elite Dangerous that comes close to design and concept fidelity to that of star citizen ships. Not only does it look real and believable, it also looks functional. Not like a plastic toy, like all the other ships.
Unfortunately I found the Chieftain an awful ship to use, not very agile at all. It’s a bit of a pig in combat I do love the look but I had to sell it.
@@garethde-witt6433 I also think the Krait MK2 is a better ship. I honestly wanted to like the Chieftain, but after outfitting it and engineering it several different ways, I just didn't like the way it handled in combat.
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For me, the Chieftan is the short king of combat ships. It's small, agile and takes so much punishment you'd think it has a thing for it. Add on the fact that it's hardpoints are better than most other ships (even ones costing 5x and weighing 100x), there's almost nothing that packs the same overall package
and it looks dope af.
Good video series you got there mate, keep it up!!
Fell in love with the chief one ever since I've seen the pilots vid about it. Was the first ship that I engineered to 100%, haven't looked back since. I'm doing threat 8 assassinations with it with no troubles.
I've also got a fully engineered fdl, but I still prefer prefer the chief, since it's a lot more durable against phasing weaponry .
And yes, thargoids really don't like it.
This ship alone has earned me 9bn credits in AX bonds since the war started.
PS: create a dedicated fire group for the gauss canons , using 2 groups of 1 medium, 1 small gauss each and fire them alternatingly. Will keep you below 20% heat when firing with a heat sink active, meaning the thargoid should not hit you at all if you're using your laterals to dodge their attacks.
Thanks bud - I need to rework all the fire-groups on my Chief, so I'll bear that in mind - I'm working on the Challenger at the moment for the next vid, but given the inevitable comparisons to the Chief, I'll be back in there shortly to make some adjustments.
It's crazy how much money the war is bringing in - just an couple of hours this evening in the Ge system pushed my credits back into a healthy place, and that's after buying a load of ships recently, plus a trip to Jameson's Memorial to stock up on internal components to go around. o7
I picked one up just for the looks and was immediately surprised by its capabilities in combat. After outfitting my engineered modules, it’s my favorite ship next to the anaconda.
Great video 👍
For the price, it's unbeatable IMO - as for the Anaconda, it's certainly a beast of a ship - once you get over the staggering price tag of any ship in that league and get used to the boaty handling of it.
@@gamingsnipsandbits id have to say that if i went harder at pvp, or ax combat, i would use the chief all day. especially since my squad all runs krait mk2
@@HouseShaw The Krait is all well and good, but I really dislike the limited distributor. Even after equivalent engineering, my Chieftan gets more rounds down-range and runs cooler, so for me it's no competition
@@bethtargett4304 wait the Krait has distributor limitation...? I think it's the other way round as Chief tends to not be able to silent run for long, and Krait has Size 7 distro as opposed to Chief's 6
Dude make a video for every ship, you rock
That's the plan - looking at doing the Sidewinder next - it's a ship all commanders have experience in, and it gets dismissed as a basic starter ship and nothing more way too often.
@@gamingsnipsandbits agreed! Every ship has a purpose and it’s function. Sometimes, videos like this, open the mind of Commanders to experiment other things. Even the small ships are fun to play with. I’m excited to see all your ship videos. As a note: recommendations on engineering will be great. Any recommendation is awesome
I'm a Fed girl, love my Vette, but I'm going to have to give this bird a try. Thanks, Commander! O7
She's worth a go - even if it's to impersonate a Imp pilot during the opening strike in a Combat Zone. Out of all the Gutamaya ships, at the moment it's my favourite of the four. As for the 'vette, it's a fine ship to use - rather partial to them myself. Something about using those two huge hardpoints to make sure that the enemy have no misunderstandings about the point you're trying to make.
My favourite AX ship, good video 👍
Honestly, I had great fun taking my chieftain, Dirae, out to crack some Xeno skulls in the first days of the Thargoid incursion, but I’ve settled back into my SRB PAs to defend the Alliance from an equally vile threat: pirates. I’m just not quite good enough without friends or with FA off to take on a real Thargoid, and popping the little ones is only satisfying for so long.
the chief is my fav ship in my dock, and I have a krate mkII, I can do 2-3 mil bounty runs with it
The current chieftain canopy design is actually shared with the diamondbacks
Ooooh not sure how I missed that, but looking at pictures of them both, I think you're right - I'll head back to my carrier later and have a side by side look at them both
Never actually owned the Chief, but the other two.... they're treats if you like making weird loadouts. If you have Cytoscramblers and Pack Hounds, they're my favorite pairing with the C-series.
My friend made a month long event, where he took his multipurpose anaconda and turned focus a bit towards the jump range... Then told us to catch him, while he flew away towards colonia.
At first I tried going with phantom with lasers, as I thought we won't have any options for rearming. So it was bassically an explorer with guns.
Saying it didn't work is like saying nothing. So after a few days I returned to bubble with the intention with making completely new build for fedral assault ship, but when I spoke with my friend, who was born while PvP-ing, he asked why i didn't just go with fdl... When i explained to him, that I needed much greater jump range than Lance could offer me, he said that I should go with chieftain.
So I did. Had some experience with eagle, so I took the risk of me being capable staying close to the target and fitted it with frags.
Oh boy that was a massacre. Out of all the interdictions of that conda I think it escaped from me once. My friend (the one fleeing) had to ask me to remove some of the frags with the effects (like drag munitions and dazzle shells), so he could at have a chance to fight with me
It was hell lot of fun
What does my missle rack always shows up empty in my Chieftin?
I can buy it in xbox? Without the horizons expansión?
Not as far as I'm aware (but not 100%) - think the Chief was introduced as part of Horizons IIRC
I wish f-dev had gotten their stuff together 4 years ago. I just can’t care enough to try again. The chieftain was one of my favorite ships and my best for anti Zeno for years.
Best ship in the game.
Wait wait wait... you can repair a blown canopy with an afmu?!?!? Ive been playing since beta in 2014 and did not know this. Jesus.
Not a fully blown one, but if you catch it before it hits 0%, you can patch it up
why all good ships have no auto docking? or am i missing sumthing
You need to get a docking computer module for autodocking.
The standard one does docking only and the advanced one does both docking and undocking.
Hope this helps 🙂
Intro music?
Clash of the Gods by Quincas Moreira. You should be able to find it in the TH-cam Audio Library (accessible via TH-cam Studio). Hope that helps!
The ship with rickets
I don’t know, I’ve grown to like federation designs, sort of.
The chieftain is a good ship but the Challenger is superior as it has greater armor and 7 hardpoints the maneuverability not as good as the chief but there is so little between them its worth sacrificing it for the greater amour and the increase in hardpoints
Personally, I'm more of a fan of the Chieftain, especially for the cost, but there really isn't a lot in it between the three of them - Chief mostly wins out on agility and cost (not that cost matters too much after a while in this game).
That being said, I'm playing around with my Challenger at the moment, with aim of turning it into a shieldless AX build and results are good - it'll certainly take a beating - especially with it's capacity for more armour, but I've still got a little bit of work to do on it. I'll pop a review of it up at some point
Actually its slow and for cold orbiting u want it faster. With light weight armor you ending up having less armor in the end.
I agree on the weapons part but the chief is ax Meta for a reason.
Chieftain is a lot of fun just to hull tank.
It's an absolute beast for the price - Challenger isn't a bad ship either, especially if you're going heavy on the armour
I almost bought a chief but i got talked into a krait mkii. still gonna buy a chief next tho but this krait just isnt the moves.
hehehe, i almost wish i hadn't been told about the Krait MkII, coz now i'm spoiled. I will probably never try out FDL for example... So many ships i don't want to bother with because the Krait is sooo good... i mean perma-boosting and having a fighter with it... it's just... so good....
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@@adawg3032 Nah man, medium is premium. Yes, it's big. Yes, it has a lot of guns. Yes it can even has fighters. But good luck getting those guns to bear when the target is dancing all around you and you end up flailing helplessly while your backside gets remodelled to look like swiss cheese.
My mate. The FAS is wonderful looking.
It's a capable ship, but I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree on the looks.
The FAS is like a F-4 Phantom... Combat Ugly!
Next time, rather than waste time discussing trading (from ur title, that's not what any of us are here for), you could compare it to it's other Alliance brother/sister ships - I've been using a Crusader because i originally bought one because fighter bay! I've been enjoying killing scouts (i have zero engineering) and even spent hours shooting at an Interceptor.....
Anyway, I've compared stats and i just can't see why *_the Chieftain_* is always said to be the best for AX combat... They all seem to have pros and cons.... (Crusader, Chieftain and Challenger)
OOOH! Just got to the bit where you PROMISED a comparison! 😜← ↑ Comment for algorithm + 👍 'd
#OldManPaxus Rating: ☆☆☆
I like to mention trade, mining ETC just to give a fuller picture - in case someone is thinking about using it as a multi-role ship 😀
As for the comparisons - the plan I've got is to use this as the benchmark for the three ships and then draw comparisons in the other two - they've all got their strengths and weaknesses, but some of them have more strengths than others.
Either way, Vulture next 👍
@@gamingsnipsandbits Howdy! o7 I thought as much, i was really just going off the title, which led to my personal issue - Owning 2 Crusaders and having retrofitted one of them as a shieldless hull/armour tank for AX ops .
If you have time, i'd love to hear what you think. I'm def going to buy one but not because of any comparisons i've made or seen but more because i haven't been using the fighter ANYWAY!!!
The Challenger can make do in AX combat, but generally the issue is that the shields on the Crusader aren't strong enough for it to work as a shield tank, and it loses considerable speed and maneuverability in comparison to the Chieftain as a tradeoff for being able to mount a fighter bay. The biggest drawback is that it's slow, which can't be overcome with clever flying skills, and this makes it a poor choice against Interceptors, which are quite fast for their size and firepower. Generally you want a ship with at least 500 m/s boost speed, and the Crusader fails this test. In addition it's not as tanky as the Chieftain and while with Gauss retains a similar DPS potential, overall there's not really any reason to bring one since the fighter is of limited use, if any, in AX combat, and the internal slots mean you're down on hull HP while also being slower and an easier target.
The Challenger can be made to work; it offers similar or slightly better DPS while being a little bit slower and slightly more vulnerable to getting caught out due to slower max boost speed, but you can make it slightly tougher than the Chieftain as a meaningful tradeoff while still keeping a ~500 m/s boost speed. And its maneuverability is quite close to the Chieftain's as well, if you prefer a slightly tougher, less twitchy spacecraft.
The other big con is that if you DO run a fighter for AX combat, the fighter can inadvertently enrage the swarm, it constantly dies, and it basically totally prevents playing with other CMDRs as fighters still cause lag spikes.
Honestly, the chieftain is ugly. Its too bulky for its design. The federal assault ship is gorgeous in a brutal utilitarian way and i love it.
I outfitted a Chieftain for exploration just to make a stupid ship. It's an atrocious build and the AspX is so much better at it for less credits but it does feel like cheating to squeeze 55 Ly out of a combat vessel, even if it can't fight at all in that configuration.
The Chieftain is the only good ship in Elite Dangerous that comes close to design and concept fidelity to that of star citizen ships. Not only does it look real and believable, it also looks functional. Not like a plastic toy, like all the other ships.
Unfortunately I found the Chieftain an awful ship to use, not very agile at all. It’s a bit of a pig in combat I do love the look but I had to sell it.
If the chief ain't agile? Now I'm kinda curious to hear which ship you preferably use for combat
Not agile your on a wind up
@@chivayosI prefer the Krait mk2
@@steventurner197 No I found it like trying to fly a type 9, sluggish and like a lead weight.
@@garethde-witt6433 I also think the Krait MK2 is a better ship. I honestly wanted to like the Chieftain, but after outfitting it and engineering it several different ways, I just didn't like the way it handled in combat.