It takes between 12 and 24 months to learn to be a train driver. It took me 4 years to learn to be a pipefitter and I would have to work a lot of overtime to get the kind of money train drivers get for 4 days work. I can't lie I think they are being greedy.
@@tryaluckI spent 5 years and 50k on university to become a professional engineer and even after 5 years experience I'm not even on half that. It's beyond greedy, it's an utter piss take!!
@@snafufubar no, blame the corrupt, cowardly government, the woke unions and their greedy, privately employed drivers unhappy with more than double the national average salary for sitting on their arse all day pushing a lever.
@@T5Zplayer not true, the public didn’t put money into private pockets back then, also the rolling stock was deliberately left to rot over decades through underfunding. It was a remarkable service considering how underfunded it was.
@@Dongfloppy You lie. I was a season ticket holder with BR travelling to Paddington. So I speak from experience. The unions destroyed the rail system. Your lies about private pockets is pathetic.
My 2 year old wants ice cream everyday for breakfast. I've "resolved" this. Aren't I great. By giving them ice cream every day for breakfast. Awesome adulting.
Stupid comparison - there’s a cost to workers, the public, business, the treasury etc by allowing strikes to continue. 14 years of pay cuts to make good - blame the tories for that
Nice to Mr Mullen who from 2020-2024 claimed £689,414 in expenses complain about train drivers pay who have up to 1350 passengers sitting behind them. I wonder how many people he has had throw themselves in front of his desk when he’s grafting for his constituents?
Makes no difference when on strike the trains don't run when the railway is not on strike . This is a cheek asking for more money when the railway can not provide a train service
Oh no someone is getting more pay than I am that must be wrong. People should be asking why their pay is what it is not petty bitching about someone elses. Divide and conquer.
There's no satisfying these people. They'll always find a way to complain. "Oh no! The train strikes that wrecked our country's public transport system are over because we paid some workers more money than i get." Oh no! I didn't expect that a...checks notes.... Labour government would side with the labour union.
So let me see if i understand this correctly, the tory government's had strikes for year's (as a nurse i was very aware of this in the nhs) now its been 1 month and mainly strikes are being or have been resolved (depending on the union ballets) and people are complaining but labour is not not doing this fast enough? And that there being to kind to the striker? I seem to remember treating the strikers badly and doing nothing didn't work for years under the troys? What on earth is going on with these comments!
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Remember the little Austrian had to earn the complete compliance of train drivers in the 1930s. For special transports
The answer to the winter fuel payments being stopped according to Rachael Reeves is for Pensioners to claim Pension Credit. As i understand it Pensioner's can't claim Pension Credit if they have more than £10,000 in savings. 😟
@@Blue_Angel1 Naive comment, anything to cover up for Labour Party's hatred and envy. I get state pension and Army pension, which is taxed. Where does your hatred of the elderly come from?
Labour are exactly right. The strikes are stopping economic growth which is worth more than the salary increases. Also, if the rail workers have disposable income they will spend it in the economy which will further help economic growth.
@@T5Zplayer And as we are seeing from the significant rise in the number of people who are economically inactive, not everyone is extended the opportunity to do so.
Funny. Train drivers are trained by other drivers who are driver instructors one at a time, and it takes 12-24 months for each one. Drivers pay is a golden handcuff, so they don't leave. They cover 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 90% of those who get an assessment before any training fail.
@@snafufubar driverless trains then is the answer and tell current train drivers because of their greed and the unions the government has no other option.
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69,000 for a 4 day week isnt poor wages😊
Don’t forget the 48 weeks annual leave and free first class travel to Bali every year
It takes between 12 and 24 months to learn to be a train driver. It took me 4 years to learn to be a pipefitter and I would have to work a lot of overtime to get the kind of money train drivers get for 4 days work. I can't lie I think they are being greedy.
@@tryaluckI spent 5 years and 50k on university to become a professional engineer and even after 5 years experience I'm not even on half that. It's beyond greedy, it's an utter piss take!!
@tryaluck blame your employer not train drivers.
@@snafufubar no, blame the corrupt, cowardly government, the woke unions and their greedy, privately employed drivers unhappy with more than double the national average salary for sitting on their arse all day pushing a lever.
We all know what’s wrong with the railways, private companies taking taxpayers money.
Hear hear!!
40% of trains are run by the state, and the strikes are just as bad there.
Worse when nationalised as BR
@@T5Zplayer not true, the public didn’t put money into private pockets back then, also the rolling stock was deliberately left to rot over decades through underfunding. It was a remarkable service considering how underfunded it was.
@@Dongfloppy You lie. I was a season ticket holder with BR travelling to Paddington. So I speak from experience. The unions destroyed the rail system. Your lies about private pockets is pathetic.
Labour politician was asked four times how they are going to pay for salary increase,wouldn’t answer🤔
Its because they havent even decided how they will yet...
Most probably borrow the doe... The Tories just emptied the treasury
Most probably borrow the doe... The Tories just emptied the treasury
Money most probably be borrowed ..
All the Tories did was empty the treasury 😂
@@Musa786-lx2uiDough.
Underworked and overpaid!
Pensioners go without heating help to pay for the public sector pay demands.
An auto drive system will solve the problems, bunch of greedy.
expect tax raises. If not they will take it out of a budget but not the immigration one. Elderly members cannot heat their home.
Hopefully they can raise NI for self employed then stop all their freebies.
@@stephenjon3502 don't sell your fellow man out
Means testing....based on affordability.
Not Labour running the country, it is ASLEF et al.
The BMA runs the country.
What does tfl exactly do except stand around all day like easiest job ever
Labour rewards its client groups in the public sector by saddling the private sector tax payer with more taxes…..
My 2 year old wants ice cream everyday for breakfast. I've "resolved" this. Aren't I great.
By giving them ice cream every day for breakfast. Awesome adulting.
Stupid comparison - there’s a cost to workers, the public, business, the treasury etc by allowing strikes to continue.
14 years of pay cuts to make good - blame the tories for that
@@cannabisstatics6193 complete comaprios expect now the RMT now want caviar instead of ice cream
The alternative is that they just say no, and then what? Mass strikes causing more in damages than the fair pay rises.
Bullies the population over resistance to unrestrained immigration but gets bullied by the unions that call the shots and greases his palm.
Nice to Mr Mullen who from 2020-2024 claimed £689,414 in expenses complain about train drivers pay who have up to 1350 passengers sitting behind them.
I wonder how many people he has had throw themselves in front of his desk when he’s grafting for his constituents?
Makes no difference when on strike the trains don't run when the railway is not on strike . This is a cheek asking for more money when the railway can not provide a train service
Thank goodness for Labour's money tree, if not, they'll have to take it from pensioners to pay their friends.
Torys where bad but damn Labour is even worse! Didn't think it was possible...
Oh no someone is getting more pay than I am that must be wrong. People should be asking why their pay is what it is not petty bitching about someone elses. Divide and conquer.
There's no satisfying these people. They'll always find a way to complain. "Oh no! The train strikes that wrecked our country's public transport system are over because we paid some workers more money than i get."
Oh no! I didn't expect that a...checks notes.... Labour government would side with the labour union.
Disgraceful and disguting government ,taking everybody for fools
The trains don't work and the strikers don't work even when at work . Don't bow to them
No doubt they will lock everyone up 😂
Far right does not mean everyone 😂
Labour already failing badly. Doesn't bode well.
@@SteelExoskeleton Riots, strikes and massive overspending.
So let me see if i understand this correctly, the tory government's had strikes for year's (as a nurse i was very aware of this in the nhs) now its been 1 month and mainly strikes are being or have been resolved (depending on the union ballets) and people are complaining but labour is not not doing this fast enough? And that there being to kind to the striker? I seem to remember treating the strikers badly and doing nothing didn't work for years under the troys? What on earth is going on with these comments!
Remember the little Austrian had to earn the complete compliance of train drivers in the 1930s. For special transports
The cost is cold hungry and dead pensioners
Labour's response: "well if they're dead they won't be cold or hungry."
No, if they can afford to heat their homes they can pay for it. If they are poor then the support stays. Simple.
The answer to the winter fuel payments being stopped according to Rachael Reeves is for Pensioners to claim Pension Credit. As i understand it Pensioner's can't claim Pension Credit if they have more than £10,000 in savings. 😟
@@Blue_Angel1 Naive comment, anything to cover up for Labour Party's hatred and envy. I get state pension and Army pension, which is taxed. Where does your hatred of the elderly come from?
Welcome to 4 years of union blackmail that will result in us having ever increasing taxes.
Billionaire capitalists and their paid millionaires in their corporate media hate two things. Workers uniting and wealth equality.
Luckily they pay more tax than the rest of us
At what cost...PENSIONERS 😡
Back to the 70's and been there done that already !
the unions said that BR always separated annual pay deals from productivity deals. Let's see what Labour will do now the annual pay deals are done!
they they refused productivity unless they got more money
@@colinbrooks228 Yes, that was the reason for EXTRA negotiations on productivity!!!
Labour are tragic.
So is your iq.
@@Blue_Angel1 Get a job.
The train drivers should hold out for 22.3% - why should they accept a lower percentage increase than the junior whingers?
The problem is they'll never sacrifice their bottom line
The elite never reduce their level of greed
Union bosses epitomise greed at the expense of pensioners
Labour - OUT, LETS MAKE THE POOR POORER!!!
Only 5 more years of Labour so don`t worry !!
Get Sunak back! This government is a complete joke!!! 😢
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Paying staff decent salaries is better than burning money in faraway wars
Nope. Fair wage for fair work, not overpaying unions out of tax payers money
Yes, but these drivers are already on more than double the national average wage...
@@kramer26 for skilled work
If its so desirable. Go learn to be one
@@lukemorgan6166you mean learn to get massive pay rise and strike..
By a payrise?
Same
The usual cost, tax payers screwed yet again.
Nurses should pack in and go get jobs driving trains.
Voters: Oh no! I didn't expect that a...(checks notes).... Labour government would side with the labour union.
People are idiots.
Quelle suprise mon amis 🤷♂️
Labour are exactly right. The strikes are stopping economic growth which is worth more than the salary increases. Also, if the rail workers have disposable income they will spend it in the economy which will further help economic growth.
Not if you are a pensioner.
Trickle down economics is a myth. The money should go to the needy, not the greedy.
@@RaRa-eu9mw Money goes to those that work for it.
It will encourage leapfrog strikes
@@T5Zplayer And as we are seeing from the significant rise in the number of people who are economically inactive, not everyone is extended the opportunity to do so.
Predictable. Remember Callaghan? "Crisis? What crisis?".
If they had remembered then Starmer would still be sitting as opposition.
Junior Doctors 15%
GPs asking for same
Train drivers 15%
Labour only help the better paid jobs in society..
This government can’t answer like never before! Working class will suffer so that’s why they can’t get the economy back
Same old labour same old regurgitated answers how about something original.for a change.
It's great uk again go on on top
That’s why UK economy is in deepsxxx. Come on, strikes do not solve the root problem, working harder and being more productive do.
Just start training new train drivers and tell the present train drivers they will be sacked when new employees are ready to take their place.
Funny. Train drivers are trained by other drivers who are driver instructors one at a time, and it takes 12-24 months for each one. Drivers pay is a golden handcuff, so they don't leave. They cover 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 90% of those who get an assessment before any training fail.
@@snafufubar driverless trains then is the answer and tell current train drivers because of their greed and the unions the government has no other option.
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