How to Replace a Wet Clutch on a Motorcycle + Oil Change - Ducati Monster
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- Replacing a slipping wet clutch on a 2006 Ducati Monster 620 - using the OEM Ducati part - 19020161A and a paper gasket. Also replacing the oil filter with a K+N 153 and giving the best new oil.
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What I love about this video is that it shows the little mistakes and struggles you had to disassemble and install the clutch. Most Motovloggers just edit it that stuff and make it look like they did it perfectly the first time.
Yep! The idea is almost to show that its possible to do even if its your first time and you don't know exactly what you are doing :)
I did not yet change the clutch, good and useful video. Do not be angry, but the screw should be tightened crosswise, not order. This is the rule of mechanical engineering.Thanks for the real of video clips. Hi!
DARKOR you are absolutely correct, reviewing the footage i realized i made this amateur mistake of not cross tightening. Dang! :(
Good job on the video. Not a difficult job, but you have a sense of accomplishment that you are maintaining your own bike, and saving money. Videos like this are one of the great things about TH-cam, when you are a motorcycle owner.
Well said, absolutely. Something very special about getting the work done yourself.
and if it wasn't for youtube, i wouldnt know how to do anything :)
always make the clutch plates wet with oil (no need soaking). When you do and undo bolts always do it in cross order especially clutch.
Yea, I heard about that and then I've also heard against that. Good idea, i'm sure. And yea, cross order tightening is a must.
How 2 videos are always of value. Sometimes, educational value. Sometimes, entertainment value.
I agree! I was aiming for more educational that entertainment - but i think i found a happy balance there :P
love your channel man, great content
Thank you so very much! I really appreciate your kind words!
Even if i already knew all of this it was nice to watch and usefull to refresh your knowledge regarding a clutch change.
Keep up the good work
Thank you so much for kind words :)
Did the same job last weekend, watched your video again and all is good now. Thaks again
I love your videos bro! I learn so much from you about my Monster 620 Dark. Appreciate it!!
Yay! My pleasure :)
Nice idea on the cardboard shadow for the bolts! Will use this in the future, thanks!
Yea! Someone showed me that trick and it just makes sense.
Buying a 2013 696 and watched this to freshen up my knowledge.
Great video. Best wishes.
Thank you! Good choice! You're about to fall in love.
Nicely done man, you made it look very easy.
Yea, it was a fun process. Reviewing the footage and watching the video I see a few things I can do much better next time I'm doing this job.
Ducati NYC Vlog Hopefully you don't have to do it again for another 25k miles.
nice if he not gonna make a lot shit , a last disk should be different position like the original and he put into the basket all same :D
The clutch in my 620 is slipping and I'll be replacing it soon, this video helps a lot
Mine has been slipping for like 10 thousand miles before it became so bad it was unbearable and had to be replaced. Fun task, amazing results. DO IT.
Hello , men am going to buy a M620 myself so all these servise vids is realy amazing for me . thx for your work realy appreciated it . Have a nice day sir
Glad I can help! Thank you so much for watching. Can't go wrong with a 620 :)
sweet u came in hot on that cluch and hooked it up. those k & n are the best only thing i run on my bikes.
It had to be done, my bike was hurtin. and I agree on them K+N filters.
Good video man. Nice job.
Thank you brother! Ride safe!
Instructive and interesting video.
Thank you very much!
That intro was so cool!
Thank you so much! I love it :)
Nice job man!! Good shit!
Thank you very much! I'm glad I finally got around to doing it.
I appreciate you making these videos man. I have an ‘02 620 and I usually check your videos first before taking on a task I haven’t done before. Very helpful, thanks 🙏🫶 Also I like how you corrected the torque in that first screw, good catch 👍😂
Happy to help and I try my best. I always want to make sure people watching realize that its my first time too :)
Oleee very nice!!!👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for watching, this had to be done.
hey i watched your video and i saw that the last 1 or two of the old clutch disks were put differently than the others 8.. and when you put the new ones you put them in the same "channel". did you had any issues with this order? thx
I had a few comments about this - 30,000 miles later it has not been an issue.
@@ducatinycbut I have the issue when I assembled it correctly. The last plate went very hardly in other slots and clutch doesnt work 😅
@@uehal Sorry to hear that. Mine is still working just fine, many years later
Helo ... i have a 796 ducati monster ...mod 2013... 5500 km only ... its still brand new ... iam having s sratnge sound coming from the glutch its goes away when i glutch ... its geting louder ... i dobt know what to do ... if u have any idea plz help me .. before i go to ducati centre and they rip me off ! I would really appriciate ur help
Hmmm, what kind of noise? Hard to figure out without hearing it. Does it effect performance?
I don't know if you saw it or not but that last friction plate is supposed to be rotated into the next set of slots so its offset from the others. if you go back to when you pulled it apart you can see its correct placement.
Dang, I need to look into this. You are the second person to mention that. I did not realize I was supposed to stagger it/offset it. It seems to work this way, am I damaging something without having it offset - should I pull it apart and move the plate?
I don't think it's messing anything up, I've looked at some videos and all did the same as you.
Boom.
this makes me want to do it my self, so easy it seems
You absolutely should. If you think you can do it, you can - thats how I felt before giving this a go.
Love your vlog man and you made this look mad easy! starting to experience a little slipping myself on my 696 - wanna come down to the BK and give me a hand? lol
BK as in Brooklyn or Bangkok? :P And thank you brother. It's an easy job actually.
Hi, thanks for the vid. Very informative and useful. I've just received my clutch plate set and am hoping to give this a go myself (on my Ducati Scrambler - could not find any clutch replacement vids for it, but understand it's pretty much the same engine as the monster 796). I read in your reply to the previous comment that there a several things you would do differently next time. Reading through other comments, I gather they might include: putting a little oil around the seal of the oil filter, and filling the filter with oil before mounting it, which is how I learned to do it too. What I was wondering about was what is meant by staggering the plates? Do you stagger all of them (or just the last plate as I read in one comment)? And how is that done? Sorry, this is totally new to me, and hope to head off issues before I create them. Any other advice, or things that you would do differently? Thanks again.
Yep, i always oil the seal before putting the filter on. I just didnt in this video. That's good practice. I've never really filled filter with oil, but that does make sense, so you don't over fill/under fill the bike.
It's not necessary to stagger all the plates, just the last one. you will see when you pull of your clutch cover that the last plate sits on a different set of knotches. It's pretty obvious after the fact but during this video I was way too exited to notice it. However - my clutch works perfectly (knock on wood) even without doing that last step. All seems fine. It's a really straight forward and easy process as long as you take your time and do not rush.
Damn new Scramblers and their clutches, my buddy is on his 3rd one and his bike is like 2 years old :(
Exactly! 24,000 km and this is the third set of clutch plates. I didn't own the bike when the plates were first changed, but the original owner has told me that he got them installed by Ducati, which I guess means they were Ducati OEM parts, which for the Scrambler, are pretty crap I hear. Am trying the Barnett set, with new Barnett clutch springs. Hope they are more durable. Guess I might want to gear down less too. Anyways, thank for the vid and info. Hope your clutch continues to work well!
I guess I would have to change those springs as well. My mechanic says that clutch is perfect, measured it and look at it, not burned. Suggested that I should replace springs. Hope it helps, cuz at the moment my clutch is slipping like hell. :(
Nice Opinel!
Thank you! One of my favorite knifes.
Love this video.
Thank you so much!
Wow very educational video for monster owners, thanks a lot :) I was expecting to show us the worned plates but it's ok.
Btw, on my 27k km monster I think I have some clutch slippage if I ride it aggressively (over 7-8k rpm) - I increase throttle but the power delivery is late, is that the symtom ?
Hey! Thank you very much! Not a bad idea, i should have shown the plates. Perhaps another quick vid :)
And that is exactly the symptom, in 3rd and 4th gears if i opened it up fast after 5k there would be alot of noise but no go
Hey, another informative session. Thinking about doing valve adjustments soon?
Thank you! Not sure if I"m quite ready for the valve's yet. Might need a garage space for that big of a task.
If you do, please record
Which oil you put in? I think about to order Shell advance 10w40 what is recommend by DUC is that ok? And its full synthetic
Thats what i use!
@@ducatinyc all right, Thx buddy
Did your clutch handle have pressure once you changed the clutch or did you have to start the bike first in order to get pressure in the handle?
It had pressure, didnt need to start it
Could a bad clutch cause loss of power while riding usually around 5k Rpms. (especially in first).
Except the rpms go down when I lose power and it splutters. Almost like it's running out of gas.
Gonna try fuel cleaner first. It had been sitting a little while.
100% it can, but to me it sounds like you need some new spark plugs and to make sure the coil wires are nice and snug and clean and fit well over the spark plugs. Try that.
How much torque do you applied to screws of the clutch?? Thanks!
Unfortunately I'm not sure. Can't find it in the manual.
Nice video. Good job. As mentioned crosswise tighten screws and you could put some oil on your finger and rub it on the sealing from your new oilfilter.
Absolutely. Both right things to do and I swear I always do both of those things, but like a fool I didn't do it this time. FAIL. FAILLLL big. :(
from where do you get that paper cover i can not find it even with the number that i see on the packet the clutch set i could find with the number
I just found it on ebay. looked up Monster 620 clutch cover paper gasket. Perhaps try searching for that word combo, make sure to use the word gasket - a few should come up
He forgot to put the last clutch friction plate in the opposite slot.
SirKing George very true. However 13,000 miles later its still running perfect so perhaps its not a big deal
@@ducatinyc What does he mean ? The last one should be inverted?
Yeah, I was wondering about that and if it makes a difference.
Alex Tatu the last one should be flipped so that the friction material contacts the plate I believe
No it means that it should be turned clockwise a few degrees to fit the other slot, the shallow one ;).
How many miles instead of oil and filter change? What oil do you use?
I try to do it every 2,000 miles or so, give or take and do not have a brand I prefer. 10w-40 is the oil.
how much would say to keep for motorcycle gear when buying a bike ? love your vlogs i recently got hooked on em :)
That is a hard question to answer. Depends on your taste and preference. The less crazy/sporty/Logoy you want your gear to look, the more you will end up paying. I think between a helmet/jacket/pants/boots/gloves and a few other things about 1,000$ is a good amount.
Very nice!
Thank you very much. This was a fun job.
Not sure if you did it, but it's good to put a little oil on the oil filter gasket. Creates a seal.
Not sure if I have it in this vid but yea, learned that trick awhile back and always make sure to.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
I recently cleaned up a Monster, those rearsets, rip them off get them sandblasted and powder coated. Just remember where the Stand bolts onto👌🏼 the bike will topple.
Yea thats part of the plan for when I pop the new motor in soon :)
I followed this video step by step and my bike won’t engage in first. When I click into first and start to let out the clutch nothing happens. When the bike is off in gear it dosnt rock it just moves freely. Where did I go wrong? How do I fix it?
Weird. Not sure what you did wrong. My clutch is still working 30k miles later after this clutch job. Sorry my friend.
how many miles did the original clutch last you? thanks!
It has been slipping since about 10-12,000 miles, but I waited until about 26,000 to replace it :)
excellent. thanks for the video. I ride a 2012 Monster evo 1100 - so much fun!
Always add a little oil to the filter seal it helps them seat correctly you should also fill the filter with oil before you put it on .......you will find there are oil volumes for just the oil change and anther volume for doing both
You are absolutely correct about filter seal oiling, i always do that but this time I either forgot or edited it out. As far as putting some oil in the filter, i will try doing that next time, thank you for the tip!
Hey DNYC - I'm way overdue for a major service on my 620 - where do you go when you need work done? I think I remember you riding from Rockwell Cycles a while back - would you recommend them?
Rockwell Cycles are great and do great work, however they are a bit far from me in Brooklyn. I would say check out Moto Velocita and see what they charge? its a somewhat new shop. my old shop left town. so I don't really know what i will do come next major service :( maybe do it myself??? :P
Bonjour,beau travail et très instructif,Où puis-je acheter la même clé dynamométrique merci d’avance..
Hé frère - vous êtes le bienvenu et merci d'avoir regardé. J'ai trouvé celui-ci sur Amazon - c'est une clé dynamométrique pour vélo :).
Vonzo torque wrench? What’s the name of it?
It's a bicycle wrench I got from Amazon. amzn.to/2HkzlLd
Nice job.
Thank you! Still works :)
Good video as usual bro. Informative videos are always great. How many miles did you have on that oil? If you stated in the clip I apologize for missing it. No Flaming here just curious. I have about 1500 miles on my T6 oil and it's still as if it was just poured out the bottle. My Sti turned oil black fast for obvious reasons though. Keep em coming brotha. Be safe, Ride like the wind.
About 2,500 miles, but most of them in the winter and cold abusive months, so i think that might be why?
Ducati NYC Vlog Possibly. I ride winter time as well.
+Zack come to think of it, all my oil changes look like that. Maybe its something with my model of Monster, turns the oil black - who knows.
Which monsters do have a dry clutch and which do have a wet clutch? I thought your bike would have a dry clutch and I know a s2r has a wet one.
Hard to answer that, so many models. But yes mine is a wet one. I prefer a wet clutch.
@@ducatinyc yes, me too. I don't like the sound of the dry ones. Well, I will figure it out. Thx :)
Awesome job! Did you stagger the last plate on the clutch pack? Not sure what this achieves but it was in the S2R 800 manual. I would assume its the same for all slippers. Proud you joined the ranks of old the ole Raw Doggers lol.
I did not stagger it :( Damn, i might have to go back and fix it. The clutch seems to work fine, so perhaps it doesnt HAVE to be staggered, but i can tell that it was, originally. :(
Well if you are not having issues, and it works fuck it. For some the stock slippers can be finicky, plate types, oil type.
Yea, its kind of a pain in the butt to take it back apart and all that so I'm going to run with it. Clutch works perfect (knock on wood)
Don't know if it my imagination, but your exhaust looks like it has a Hole?
I dont think there is a hole. there is a tiny leak at the connecting area but nothing major.
When you disassembled the plates, the last one was in a different way than the others - and in different holes. And you assembled all the plates in the same holes.
You're probably right. I made this video over 6 years ago. That said - my clutch is still working just fine.
Having good oil should be a priority, especially on a 620, which has some warm up problems when the engine is still cold. Don't cheap out on it ;)
Yea, it's true. But then the urge to save some $ kicked in - but you're absolutely right.
Does an02 monster have a wet clutch?
an02? not sure what that is - mine does.
How did you know it was time to change the clutch?
I would twist the throttle and the bike would not accelerate - just make noise, until clutch all of a sudden grips.
Wich is the torque in Nm?
Which part? Not sure.
Where can i find that torque set?? Link?
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00811WQT8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Appreciate it man! I need to ay least check mine and see how everything is.. Haven't since i got it and i think peeps before me used that liquid seal bs..
Hola buenos días cuantos nm aprietas los discos de embrague
Hi there, good morning! I believe its 5nm or 7nm, something like that. Sorry, cant recall exactly.
Ok thank you👍
Where did you get the parts?
Just found them on Amazon :)
@@ducatinyc I'm new to the monster scene, and I'm finding it harder than I expected to find parts. Ended up ordering the clutch plates, and clutch cover and stator cover gaskets from motowheel. prices seem reasonable, hopefully the service is good.
monst3rmashh i’ve used them before, they do good work
Vc esta demorando muito pra trocar o óleo. Mas parabéns pelo trabalho .Muito bom.
Yea, it has been over 2,500 miles, too long for sure. Or do you mean the video is too long? :) Thank you very much!
The interval between the exchange of the old oil by the new oil that was large. The time of the video was very good.I like more of your Blog.
I agree! I rode through New York City winter with all its snow and grime, my poor bike was crying for new oil. I usually try to do it more often. Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
I'm a mechanic in Brazil. Whenever you open the clutch cover, open it with the engine still warm, so you do not damage the gasket. So you save money. :)
ah, not a bad idea. thank you for the tip. in my case my old gasket was leaking so I needed a new gasket either way, but this is good to know. I did warm up the bike for about 10 minutes before this job so the oil drains easier. What kind of bikes do you usually work on? What is the most popular bike in Brasil, in your opinion?
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Woot woot! Thank you thank you!
The new cluth (in a wet type system) always need to soak in oil before, and the gasket isnt needed ! only Ducati Threebond 1215. The oil seal in the side cover(from oil pump) isn't seal properly when u put a gasket under the cover , it causes crankshaft bearing damage over time. ;)
Nearly 40,000 miles later - and the clutch is still working just fine - but good tips. :)
boom!
all is well that ends well :)
i Have to known you put your last clutch is wrong after than you have any issues on your motocycle?
Kurtulus Bilgin hehe yep, i got about 10 comments about this and i know. But 22,000 miles later its still perfect. No issues
Заставку себе крутую забабахал.....))) Почти как Трон
Da, eto kak bi i bila ideya, ya obozhayu tu scenu s ducati v tunelle
Ducati NYC Vlog
Мой приятель купил черного монстра 900 после этого фильма. Хотел спорт класик но его было сложно купить...
You have forgotten to rotate the last friction disc, you can see at 10:17 the original assembly and your assembly at 16:15, but anyway no functional problem.
Yep, i did, 30,000 miles later the clutch is still good
Complimenti, bravo ! però la devi assolutamente lavare :D! - Congratulations, good! But you absolutely have to wash it: D!
Thank you very much! And you're absolutely right, the poor bike needs to get washed up :)
hehehehe.I love is.The dirtier, the more story to tell. But a good wash to keep the bike is good too.
The last disc was put in wrong. Good disassembly and assembly video otherwise
Yep, you are correct :) Surprisingly it has not affected the performance at all over the last 13,000 miles it's been like that :)
@@ducatinyc Well that's awesome to here that a couple years later it is still running like a champ or dare I say... Like a monster
@@dannyfresh6697 hehe. nothing better than motorcycle humor :P
I change the clutch, complete New bike xD cause my old Was slippin 😂
I bet! It makes a HUGE difference!
@@ducatinyc totally! From 6k RPM its a different bike.
@@ducatinyc i also put also the Tank off and Fender and all plastic and paint it deep Black metallic, great Look, now its Real dark Edition 😎
the 16 down votes where from 16 hating ass lazy rich and snobby people that rather pay for a job they can do on their own; the thing is i don't understand is why piss on one's video just because you cannot do the work. heck if you're so rich why down-vote the video im sure you can make a channel and just buy views
Well, I also put in the last plate backwards so perhaps a few downvotes is because of me not finishing the task correctly.
Nice beard 😉 lol
hehe, ooops, it stuck out eh?
Dislike this video because you put the final disk wrong . The disk must be put at the other possition and not to the same with the other disks . Check your video from the begin when you take out the bolts where is the first disk .
You are absolutely correct. However it doesn't make the difference in the end and the clutch has been workin fine since the install -- BUT! you are right, I did put it in wrong. You could always like the video for all the effort it took and dislike in the comment ;)
Ducati NYC Vlog the aptc clutch system does not work if you put all the disks together
what do you mean? my clutch has been working fine.
Ducati NYC Vlog google to learn what is the aptc clutch that ducati has at the monster and the multistrada 620
Last plate against pressure plate, should be offset in different groove. Wrong install.
Yep, but 30,000 miles later it still works. Thanks for the comment
Dude. with all the cam movement I got dizzy. next time use a tripod.
Tripod is alot more work 😜😜
never make the disk dry !!!!!! with oil
30,000 miles later and it still works perfect
Amico l’ultimo disco che hai messo lo hai messo sbagliato, va messo sfalsato rispetto agli altri, nello smontaggio era giusto nel montaggio hai sbagliato.
Sì, hai assolutamente ragione. È vero. Tuttavia sono state oltre 20.000 miglia e funziona ancora benissimo, quindi immagino di averla franca! :)
@@ducatinyc sai perché te lo dico, io ho appena fatto lo stesso errore e dovrei smontare di nuovo tutto, quindi mi garantisci che funziona correttamente lo stesso??
ha funzionato per me. sono 4 anni e 20.000 miglia dopo e la mia frizione è perfetta. probabilmente una dozzina di persone hanno commentato il video dicendomi la stessa cosa ma sembra che funzioni solo :) non voglio dare cattivi consigli però.
@@ducatinyc ok grazie, domani per sicurezza smonto tutto di nuovo visto che ancora nn ho messo l’olio. Grazie Amico 😊👍
Never use liquid gasket it is shit
Good to know. It seemed like it might be a bit of a mess.
The last clutch plate is badly fitted.
30,000 miles later and it’s still fine. Perhaps it didn’t matter
😂
@@ducatinyc 😁
You have no fucking idea how or why things are put together. Only watching because my monster's clutch is slipping.
Funny. I only replaced my clutch and made this video because my clutch was slipping. And look - you found it and took your time to “fucking” leave a comment - so thank you and ride safe. And calm down, kiddo.
And 30k miles later clutch still works. If you are so very smart why are you watching some fucking video anyway - shouldn’t you be making your own or perhaps just doing it from your heart? Ohhhh you needed a bit of help
You’re gonna burn your clutch and end up scrapping it. you need to soak your clutch for at least 15 mins in oil. Flagging for false advertising m, should’ve been called “how to burn your clutch”
Perhaps do some research before leaving a comment. IT IS NOT necessary to soak these specific plates for this specific bike. Look up other tutorials, not everyone soaks them. Thank you for the view/comment anyway, every lil bit, even if hate, helps. Have a great day!