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  • Fancy motoring from New York to London and back without needing to refuel? Hugo Andreae takes a tour of this ultimate adventure yacht.
    Arksen 85 Explorer specifications
    LOA: 89ft 7in (27.3m)
    BEAM: 23ft (6.99m)
    ENGINES: 2 x Scania 350hp
    TOP SPEED: 14 knots
    FUEL CAPACITY: 18000l (4755.1 Gal)
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  • @nickglossop
    @nickglossop หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Very utilitarian, that’s a compliment in my opinion. It’s designed to do a job and it does it well.

  • @larrygulden-qe3me
    @larrygulden-qe3me 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wow! What a boat. Very well thought out and developed. You did an excellent job describing a very complex machine.

  • @gregzoller9003
    @gregzoller9003 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Love to see this. Was sad when Dashew retired and there would be no more FPB’s, but this continues, and arguably improves, that tradition of go-anywhere yacht

  • @jksurvivalbushcraft
    @jksurvivalbushcraft 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, I don’t know much about boats… or by any means yachts. But damnnnn, I would love to not just own that, but spend the next five years learning how to operate, maintain and repair everything on board.
    Having said the obvious, I can honestly say the craftsmanship I saw from just the video is amazing( union Pipefitter/plumber here). Well done! Now, if any of you Uber rich need someone to learn, run, maintain this amazing yacht in case shtf happens. Feel free to reach out. ( I know a thing or two about survival) lol. Well presented video, well thought out product, but more importantly this yacht is a showcase for long term survival and or exploration. And quite honestly at 10-15 million a steal at that price… again great video and thanks for showing us!

  • @nicbennett6554
    @nicbennett6554 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Great tour of a very impressive yacht. Thanks Hugo.
    It’s not the first tour I’ve seen of this boat, but it’s so impressive it’s worth another watch from a different perspective.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love "the other guy, Hugh's former colleague" to bits but this was the better presentation. At least this time. IMO.

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you both for your kind comments

  • @ssgill
    @ssgill 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    One the sea, and explorer is what is needed... not a showoff vessel .. need one like this. absolutely one like this.

  • @vanPoll
    @vanPoll หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It's just magnificent. It doesn't limit you.

  • @runeshadow
    @runeshadow 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm in love with this boat ! ❤

  • @thejohnhend
    @thejohnhend หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Amazing vessel. Was the perfect combination of utility and coziness

    • @cwg73160
      @cwg73160 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It still is.

  • @timgriffin2664
    @timgriffin2664 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Was lucky to spend a day sea trialing this beauty
    Very nice motion we had a F6

  • @dobeman001
    @dobeman001 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, Hugo. Very well done and very informative tour of this outstanding yacht.

  • @ironichumorist
    @ironichumorist หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    glad to see someone is carrying the Dashew legacy forward and it is a delight that it is made in the UK.

  • @path8817
    @path8817 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice to see a Brother who sails! SMIB!

  • @Minder1633
    @Minder1633 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is an outstanding vessel!

  • @jaymoroscak4784
    @jaymoroscak4784 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Hugo. Great video as always and you do an excellent job presenting.

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s really kind of you to say. Much appreciated. Thanks

  • @javierechevarria1548
    @javierechevarria1548 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Hugo. Thank you for your excellent tour. I do see and value your passion. Remarkable!

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, that means a lot to me

  • @MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg
    @MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing boat

  • @alainlalonde
    @alainlalonde 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That boat is badass. I love it.....

  • @BrettKittle
    @BrettKittle 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The functionality of it is beautiful.

  • @nicolasweber2805
    @nicolasweber2805 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is much awaited.... This is the most interesting new trawler yacht for years, and - to me - this is the best/worst contender (depending on how you see it) to the Berings, even though they properly targets different customers. But the fuel consumption, and range is astonishing, and I am looking very much forward to the senatorial and thereby getting some data on performance/fuel flow etc. Thank you for a great walk-through of this very interesting yacht.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Berings are overbuilt. (That's not my criticism, that's a Bering boast. But it comes at a weight penalty).

    • @marioh5172
      @marioh5172 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Berings are min-maxed ships which are I do not know what they are really… Strange proportions for this reason. Certainly an offer for those who want everything in a ship, but can't really have everything.

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @johnpandolfino8663
    @johnpandolfino8663 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful 💪🖖👋👌🤞💰🍩👍😎🏆🦫🎄👏🎉🤘

  • @xerondenver
    @xerondenver หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well done thanks

  • @iancharlton678
    @iancharlton678 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cracking tour of a cracking yacht Hugo….🎉
    I often admire these multi million pound yachts, but never seriously contemplate the ownership….. this however, I would sell limbs and organs to own. I love the commercial vibe, the robust build and power……..
    I am willing to give my time for free, if a long term tester is needed 🙂🇬🇧

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s a kind offer but don’t hold your breath!

  • @danielbarnes6873
    @danielbarnes6873 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mad, I'll take it

  • @user-yo6zy4di5u
    @user-yo6zy4di5u หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice to see a boat that isn't a ghin palace

  • @lknanml
    @lknanml หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like this.... Well done although if you are gonna show off your work I think those final exterior welds need a specialist to finish them off.

  • @christophermielke
    @christophermielke หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Steel hull on an explorer is mandatory in my mind. The rest looks fine to me.
    Decent video Brother

  • @ssn608
    @ssn608 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THIS!!! what a beautiful interior, and such a functional boat.
    Fortunately....I have a Megamillions Lotteery ticket I'm sure is a winner (I've got a good feeeling...), so I might as well go aheead and onder one. Only change I'd make from this is to spec ability to use US elecrical systems

    • @ssn608
      @ssn608 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      and.... surprisingly low priced. Yeah, more than I can afford, but far, far less than I was expeecting.

  • @Bigalscondosandcars
    @Bigalscondosandcars 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It’s like a Landrover defender of yachting

    • @TunaCrunch
      @TunaCrunch 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not built from aluminium its not

    • @jamessudek2125
      @jamessudek2125 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Land Rover is much nicer. 😂

  • @ianscott3180
    @ianscott3180 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    An amazing yacht, but let's be honest. If I had the money to buy one, I would be looking elsewhere. It is too industrial for my tastes, I would be following the trades and be nowhere near an iceberg. Enjoyed the tour though, it is good to see different vessels.😊

    • @adventurescotland
      @adventurescotland หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To me it looks almost like a war ship but not a yacht

    • @nrolled2888
      @nrolled2888 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Looks nice and safe for my family and I.

    • @HighMaintenancePS
      @HighMaintenancePS 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Replace the word “let’s” with “I’ll”.
      It is quite common for us humans to appeal to others for approval.

    • @tanindunn8379
      @tanindunn8379 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@HighMaintenancePS there's no need for that. It's an expression. A common used one at that. His comment is perfectly fine as it stands.

  • @johnk1529
    @johnk1529 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    May I ask what need there is for the work bench? A fixed drill, vise, etc...what's being worked on while at sea? Thank you.

  • @MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg
    @MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is A12 my aluminium hull up to the job for exploration ?

  • @leonardlassiterbey5161
    @leonardlassiterbey5161 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very awesome ship!!!Looks a little to much like a military vessel to pay 8-10 million

  • @alancastle3917
    @alancastle3917 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That seems on the low end? I would have thought well above 15-18 mil.!

  • @marioh5172
    @marioh5172 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not only does it look like one, it is obviously a real Explorer.

  • @reallybigjohnson
    @reallybigjohnson หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Where are the cannons?

  • @guyspooner4580
    @guyspooner4580 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great thorough video. I’ve been following Bering for a while and i see many similarities in approach. The biggest difference of course is the choice of aluminium vs steel for the hull (and the self-righting ability of the Arkson). I don’t, however, know which is better. What is the case for aluminium?

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He said in the vid. Lighter, better strength to weight, therefore extended range. Also I think more durable and less maintenance needed in extreme weather conditions.

    • @tuberNunya
      @tuberNunya 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Doesn't rust obviously.

  • @ProtechtedCanada
    @ProtechtedCanada หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I certainly wouldn’t be taking it to polar areas with an aluminum hull of 12mm. You would need 25-30mm for sure, also Aluminum alloys typically become more brittle at low temperatures, which could be a critical weakness in polar conditions. I’d also look at reinforcing the bow to include ribbing, double hull sections, or stronger framing techniques.
    Edited just to say I would definitely purchase one as it’s a magnificent looking vessel, I just wouldn’t take it through the North West passage lol

    • @guyspooner4580
      @guyspooner4580 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are sure of those numbers?

    • @ProtechtedCanada
      @ProtechtedCanada หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@guyspooner4580 It depends on the classification societies tbh. These figures are defined in the classification societies' rulebooks, which consider not just the ice class, but also other factors such as the type of ice, ship size, intended operational waters, and specific structural designs. Here, I'll summarize typical minimum hull thicknesses for various ice classes as specified by major classification societies:
      1. Lloyd's Register (LR)
      Lloyd's Register differentiates its classes primarily into Ice Class 1A Super to 1E, with each having specific requirements based on projected ice conditions:
      - Ice Class 1A Super: Around 28 to 30 mm or more, for vessels intended to operate in severe multi-year ice conditions.
      - Ice Class 1A: Approximately 25 to 28 mm, suitable for thick annual ice.
      - Ice Class 1B: Generally about 22 to 25 mm, designed for medium first-year ice.
      - Ice Class 1C: Typically around 20 to 22 mm, for light first-year ice.
      - Ice Class 1D and 1E: Lesser thickness, usually not significantly reinforced beyond standard non-ice class requirements.
      2. American Bureau of Shipping (ABS)
      ABS categorizes its ice classes from A0 to A3 for harsh conditions, and B and C for lighter conditions, with specific subdivisions indicating gradual differences:
      - Class A3: Typically 30 mm or more, for ships that can endure heavy ice conditions.
      - Class A2: About 27 to 30 mm, for moderate ice conditions.
      - Class A1: Roughly 25 mm, for light to medium ice conditions.
      - Class A0: Slightly reinforced beyond non-ice class standards.
      - Class B and C: Gradually decreasing from 25 mm, tailored to vessels encountering lighter ice.
      3. Det Norske Veritas - Germanischer Lloyd (DNV-GL)
      DNV-GL uses Polar Classes from PC1 to PC7, which are particularly stringent:
      - Polar Class 1 (PC1): 45 mm or more for year-round operation in all ice-covered waters, including multi-year ice.
      - Polar Class 2 and 3 (PC2, PC3): 37 to 40 mm, for substantial multi-year ice.
      - Polar Class 4 to 6 (PC4-PC6): Gradually decreasing from 35 mm to 30 mm, for seasonal navigation in old ice.
      - Polar Class 7 (PC7): About 27 mm, designed for summer/autumn operation in first-year ice which may include old ice inclusions.
      4. Russian Maritime Register of Shipping (RMRS)
      Russian standards are critical for Arctic navigation:
      - Arc7: Generally 45 mm or more, for extreme Arctic conditions.
      - Arc5 and Arc6: 35 to 40 mm, designed for significant ice presence.
      - Arc4: About 30 mm, for moderate ice conditions.
      - Ice3 and below: Decreasing thickness, suitable for lighter ice conditions, starting from about 25 mm.
      5. Bureau Veritas (BV)
      Bureau Veritas uses similar notations to Lloyd’s Register:
      - Ice IA Super: Around 30 mm or more, for severe ice conditions.
      - Ice IA: Approximately 28 mm, for operations in thick annual ice.
      - Ice IB: About 25 mm, for medium first-year ice.
      - Ice IC: Typically 22 mm, for light first-year ice.
      I certainly wouldn’t feel comfortable with 12mm of Aluminium, considering Titanic hull was 18.75mm - 35mm of steel. Back to you!!

    • @540chevhell9
      @540chevhell9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sir Peter Blake's aluminium exploration yacht Seamaster spent long periods in Arctic/Antarctic conditions including semi-ice bound. If he was spending months at a time in an aluminium vessel not concerned about brittleness I feel confident I could do the same with aluminium!!! 100 foot Seamaster had 16mm aluminium hull plates overall but up to 50mm in places. I think the difference between Titanic which you mention below and the Arksen 85 is that Titanic was doing 20.5 knots, almost her full speed when she hit a 50k tonne iceberg. I suspect the Arksen crew knowing it would be in ice conditions would certainly be cruising at absolute minimum speeds knowing ice was around. I suspect at these speeds ice would not be too problematic. My beef with this Arksen 85 is its too top heavy with that top story, for days on end of a full gale and 6-8 metre seas.

  • @humphrey4976
    @humphrey4976 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s my kind of boat.

  • @jamesonpace726
    @jamesonpace726 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Sure, we're all bleating about this & that now, but when the zombies come, this'll be the absolute stuff....

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, suspending reality for a moment and assuming zombies exist, or imagine another apocalyptic scenario. Vessels like this are extremely dependent on modern infrastructure. Fuel, specialist lubricants, spare parts, filters, supplies etc.
      So, while you may be able to escape for a few weeks/months, what's going to happen when supplies run out or there's a mechanical failure?

    • @jamessudek2125
      @jamessudek2125 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Any boat should be ok with zombies. I don't think they swim. 😂

    • @jamessudek2125
      @jamessudek2125 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@PreservationEnthusiasta row boat is just as good with zombies.😂

  • @thepleblian2079
    @thepleblian2079 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very reminiscent of a Dashew yacht.

  • @ciderpress6656
    @ciderpress6656 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When estimating the price of this beautiful vessel you omitted to mention the currency!!

  • @darthkek1953
    @darthkek1953 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Long-range? Is it really transatlantic?
    _[Twenty. Seconds. Later]_
    WELL THAT'S ME TOLD... AND THAT'S ME SOLD!

  • @Dan-fl8ug
    @Dan-fl8ug 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is that means this ship can operate by its onwer and without any other professional crew member?

  • @kenwood9401
    @kenwood9401 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what would the price tag on this yacht

  • @rd4660
    @rd4660 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I call these aluminum yachts "fizzles" because that's what they do. Over time they fizzle due to electrolysis.

  • @jamesmyatt354
    @jamesmyatt354 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍❤️

  • @alphatester9394
    @alphatester9394 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn´t they know that in these days there are electronical sea charts?

  • @dominicsantiago6506
    @dominicsantiago6506 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How does this compare to a Bering Yacht?

    • @ah244895
      @ah244895 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      More affordable

    • @jamessudek2125
      @jamessudek2125 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It doesn't

  • @castlegate2015
    @castlegate2015 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its being delivered. Its for sale. Which one is it?

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That one is sold but they have another due for completion soon

  • @almirantefarragutandcalanf8643
    @almirantefarragutandcalanf8643 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seen this before , you late to this one, surely Motor Boat & Yachting should be getting first look ? Just shows Jack and Nick , loved by viewers that both worked for you and seen the light

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nick still does work for us in a freelance capacity but obviously has his own channel and Jack remains a good friend too. Nothing wrong with a bit of competition - helps us all improve!

  • @MiloYellowknee
    @MiloYellowknee หลายเดือนก่อน

    In all seriousness though, and I didn’t make this comment on the other videos - the visible welds on the hull really ruin this for me.
    And the portholes so close to the water line make navigating ice a foolish endeavour.
    I feel like I’m criticizing a supermodel for having too round of a behind. I get it.

  • @unpluggedkiwi1063
    @unpluggedkiwi1063 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would suit me far better than other so-called explorer yacht gin palaces. But would still rather have a Dashew thanks.

    • @maccant4707
      @maccant4707 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can there are three up for sale a Berthon. This is a step up in luxury but a dashew 75 would suit my messy existence, no fear getting mud and fish guts on the deck.

  • @lordprince6758
    @lordprince6758 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How much?

  • @markg1291
    @markg1291 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finish looks pretty rough!

  • @c-ptsd46
    @c-ptsd46 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lithium ion battery?

  • @donniepike1
    @donniepike1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who else was wondering what alarm was pinging. Door alarms?

  • @CM-sj9pb
    @CM-sj9pb หลายเดือนก่อน

    my Audi A2 was also from aluminium.

  • @johnbelesis
    @johnbelesis 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what happens if you decide to go to a relatively hot destination? the whole boat transforms to a portable sauna?? 🥵♨

  • @alejandro1904
    @alejandro1904 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25 litres per hour. Wow

  • @classicraceruk1337
    @classicraceruk1337 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s what I call a useful machine………

  • @zipfelklatscher2468
    @zipfelklatscher2468 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Very roughly made. Not the manufacturing quality of a Bering.

    • @johnlandrum4649
      @johnlandrum4649 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. Welds are sloppy as is its fit and finish. Not even in the same ballpark as fpb's as far as the quality of the metal work. But interesting design that i hope can be refined.

  • @Beerbellygivinitwelly
    @Beerbellygivinitwelly หลายเดือนก่อน

    This boat looks hard enough to be in the SBS

  • @yager6627
    @yager6627 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10 million. Pocket change.

  • @jacksparrow8402
    @jacksparrow8402 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You don't ask the price!

  • @alistairmills7608
    @alistairmills7608 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Needs to be twice the size.

  • @davidgrandy4681
    @davidgrandy4681 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not sure if being able to get a semi-qualified captain - based on the length of the boat - is a big advantage. Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should. You might save a few bucks with that sketchy skipper, and then pay for it with your life. Sometimes the cursed government regulations save lives.

  • @stephenallen4374
    @stephenallen4374 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No way can that boat handle Blue water the bowel gets smashed all the glass will be destroyed it's just not strong enough for Blue water grill 😢

  • @jx870
    @jx870 หลายเดือนก่อน

    difficult to acess laundry,

  • @brad4908
    @brad4908 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “A strong eye on sustainability” - for a diesel powered toy that burns its way around the planet using the equivalent of three or four cars worth of fuel _every_ day, just for propulsion, not to mention the fuel used for the hotel services. I think the courtesy of honest language would seem not too much to ask.

  • @realDonXeon
    @realDonXeon หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wow....I've seen nicer welds on fishing boats, speaking of which the fishing boat stabilizers are not impressive on a yacht. There is no gain, maybe 1 knot...by being aluminum. Any collision at sea...with a log, reef, or other vessel would rip this thing apart. Lithium-ion batteries are not safe on yachts. Best wishes to the builders and owners of this vessel. Peace.

  • @fjdkfdfjdf33
    @fjdkfdfjdf33 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nuclear powered?

  • @540chevhell9
    @540chevhell9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lose that top deck completely. Too top-heavy. Too much windage in a gale. Too much roll. That thing would get crucified in Force 10 in Biscay. Without the top level it might survive.

  • @easyox77
    @easyox77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aluminum NOPE!!!!

  • @_SHANE_
    @_SHANE_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    $8-$10M ? Hard to be honest without sounding rude hearing that. I'd hope the manufacturer will go back and check the comps of other boats that price range. I couldn't see anyone choosing this over a Bering or even the cheaper fiberglass brands. Reminds me of a pontoon . Can it be painted and not look like a tin can just getting ready to get its labels put on ? And cushions look like they're made for wicker furniture , while matresses look like they're made for an old church camp. Honestly, it's the price that makes it this hard. Can't compare a Lotus Emira with a Bentley and try to charge the same price.

  • @noblemanescattery
    @noblemanescattery หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Probably my least favorite boat ever shown on this channel.

    • @vorjay
      @vorjay หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      probably because you don't understand the purpose.

    • @noblemanescattery
      @noblemanescattery หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vorjay actually it has nothing to do with “its purpose”, it’s just plan ugly.

    • @vorjay
      @vorjay หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noblemanescattery okay. the form follows function. you're not disproving my point at all; you're just confirming it.

    • @gregzoller9003
      @gregzoller9003 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don’t always want a pretty boat. Some places in the world (and this boat can get to all places) you definitely don’t want a high profile “fancy” yacht, Something that blends in with commercial or utility boats keeps a low profile.

  • @thomey-td5zm
    @thomey-td5zm 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Audio is horrible

  • @nojnoj3069
    @nojnoj3069 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stumbled upon your video....sorry but I'll stick with Nick....

  • @alejandroperelmann9952
    @alejandroperelmann9952 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sry...U said 40KW on solar?

  • @jamessudek2125
    @jamessudek2125 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like 💩. Get a bering yacht. Welds look much better on Berings. Plus much better interiors. 😂