I purchased the Knox Urbane Pro Mk3 in July 2023. I’m a weekend warrior and I’ve put less than 40 hours of use on my jacket when the cuffs began to fray. I wrote the company directly as well as sending photos, to which they responded , that the frayed cuffs were a result of repeated abrasion from gloves, or likely wear from the Velcro closure on gloves. They said that they would not replace the jacket or refund my money. I was disappointed to say the least, particularly when “abrasion resistance“ is the company’s advertisement lead. Clearly, the material used at the cuffs is flimsy at best, and inconsistent with the durability of the rest of the jacket. I pride myself on taking meticulous care of my equipment, and for the company to suggest that the use of gloves on a motorcycle jacket caused this premature wear and damage is ridiculous and indefensible. These companies have a captive audience as well as regulatory capture to inflate their prices, and to advertise an abrasion resistant armored shirt that is now literally falling apart at the seams after less than 40 hours of use is shameful.
I have the exact same problem, but I’ve been scouring the internet and haven’t found others with the same problem till now. It’s honestly a joke that a heavy duty motorcycle jacket gets broken from light friction when it’s supposed to tolerate sliding on asphalt at extreme speeds. My country has quite strict consumer protection laws so I’m hoping I can get a replacement jacket or a repair. What did you do about it in your case?
@@joarsund3855 After several emails, they finally offered to repair it, but I’m responsible for paying to ship it to the UK, which I won’t do. I’m writing a letter to the CEO instead. I don’t expect to hear back. It should be noted that I bought it directly from the manufacturer. Had I bought it from Revzilla or other distributor, I think they would have honored a return.
@@Jetblackt120 alright thanks for the info. Mine isn’t only frayed around the edges but the cuff itself has also broken at the seam, Is yours too? I’m also wondering what I’m going to do if I get a new one. I don’t want to destroy it in the same way. Maybe gloves without Velcro
@@joarsund3855 I hope you have better luck with the company than I did. I think the best we can hope for is that they’ll hear our message and improve the product.
The Achilles heel of this product is that afterthought of a chest protector. It’s extremely bulky, a little inconvenient to fit and doesn’t stay in place when the jacket is unzipped. I absolutely loved everything else about the Mk2 product, including the class leading back protector coverage, but to not have a split chest protector permanently able to be fitted in pockets is a huge oversight so I reluctantly sold mine. I just purchased a similar product which has split chest pockets and my mesh jacket also has these. I can’t overstate how bulky it is which is probably why it’s not installed for the video.
Bowtex Elite Armored Shirt. It’s AAA Rated, dyneema construction and low profile level 2 elbow and shoulder with split chest pockets. It’s already lower profile than this shirt but I put L2 d3o Ghost armour everywhere and I hardly know I’m wearing it. It’s a much better product IMHO, with the exception of the back protector coverage which is greater with the Knox shirt.
@@johnm6683 Looks like a very nice product but there are two more downsides you didn't list not only is the back protector shorter but it's sold separately so have you to hope both are in stock which has been an issue before, also makes it slightly more expensive which the Knox already is, next is it's only available in black which even being full mesh in hot sunny weather you WILL be sweating and having it stick to you. I love my gray Urbane but that Bowtex definitely looks like a great alternative, if only it came in white or gray may have been a future purchase for me.
@@shauns5278 toss a light colored shirt or jersey over top and the color doesnt matter. Plus Bowtex uses double layers of their dyneema fabric at impact points - getting to AAA while being way cheaper then the honnister.
Can't wait to buy the mk3, upgrading from the original. I went xl but it was very tight in the shoulders. Looking forward to the new compact armour and AA rating
I’m still rocking the MK1 jacket and absolutely love it. I call it my “anti-squid” jacket because every time I leave the house for a fun ride out on a hot day, I might initially plan to head out without a jacket to get that ultimate feeling of “freedom”, but then this jacket just hangs there staring at me and I think, there is literally no reason NOT to throw this on and still get the same airflow. You do feel restricted versus just wearing a T so I will on rare occasion still head out without the Knox jacket, but I’d say since picking this item up, my percentage of trips out to the seafood market has dropped from about 30% to 5%. Clearly, we as riders know how liberating riding without all the gear on can feel, but this jacket at least, removes the “oh, but it’s so hot” excuse from the equation 😁
Hi Ben, I personally still have the MK1 and I absolutely love it and it still holds very strong. It better to be ready and wear it as you never know what can happen. Ride Safe! :) - Iza
Needs sliders on the slidy bits like elbows. Knox does it on its gloves. A zip to attach it to the matching trousers. A more comfortable fit around the neck. The trousers do not flow air as good as they could. Would I buy again. Yes definitely.
If only Knox made clothing in tall sizes with extra long sleeves. Goes for almost all manufacturers of course. Hardly any cater for tall, yet slim riders.
Hello! I am an oddly proportionated bloke - - in cms. 177 height, 118 chest, 97 waist, 190 "wing-span" and 82 kg -- so I was wandering which size to order. I ended up ordering the XXL for the Knox Urbane Pro mk3 (online from the Netherlands, I am in Portugal so, since Brexit, I could not buy from you, sorry!) which arrived yesterday. I was worried that it could be a bit big but it fits me fine, just a tad loose on the waist, but not too long on the waist and perfect on the chest, shoulders and my long arms. First impressions: very good jacket, a bit warmer than expect when standing still but considerably more vented than my Merlin Shenstone which is also vented; quite comfortable; and it fits really fine underneath other non-armoured jackets. First annoyance: the internal mobile pocket is too high up and is too narrow and that makes it a pain to insert and remove the phone, especially due to the grippy case on the mobile. I believe it has potential to become my most used jacket. Thank you for your review.
I really like the knox Urbane range ,however i haven't had much luck with the mk2 utility jacket which fell apart after, poor production quality. Gave up after the second one. The Urbane Pro trousers really don't flow enough air to be considered as a summer mesh pant.
@@Kendo87 …anything I like. I have a cheap, ex-Politzei goretex jacket in my tail bag, so I’ve ridden in jumpers, hoodies, lumberjack shirts… Knox takes care of the impact protection so you could ride in a tux if your fancied it.
@@mattwilliams9758 thanks Matt. I was reading on a forum that the Knox armour alone isn’t sufficient for abrasion and it’s best to wear a biking jacket as well but this defeats the point of it for me. I’ll wear a very lightweight jacket or jumper I think.
How is the size / fit compared to the MK1? And how does the thickness of the new lvl 2 armour compare to the previous lvl 1 armour? I don't have the option of trying it on first so this info would be helpful.
Nobody seems to have TALL…. I’m 6’5”.. really tough finding anything that fits and that you like. And when you’re looking for summer weight and riding in 95+ degree weather, why do they seem to only offer dark colors? How about white? Give me a XLT White.
Or like the Proviz Reflect 360 CSR so it's bright high Vis coloured during the day but whenever artificial lights shine on it the whole thing illuminates
Looks like the still didn't address the collar being harsh on your skin. I've sent the MkII back because it marked my neck with the mesh wrapped around the collar. And my neck is far from being thick. The only way to work around this is wearing a t-shirt with a high-ish collar.
Hi Rick, a few of us own this jacket and are not experiencing the collar to be an issue, it's also not something that our customers mention a lot so it might have been something to do with a individual fit and preference. We do have other great mesh jackets worth considering if you would like, these can be found here: www.urbanrider.co.uk/jackets/vented.html - Iza
That's odd that is actually usually one of the most common praises I see is that it lacks a standard collar and prevents this. Are you sure you didn't buy one size too small? It is an extremely snug product.
2.45 - 'stays where it is' - I can tell you from experience, that this is rubbish. Don't wear this and assume all will be well in a crash, particularly even the smallest slide as happened to me. I've said it before, but until Knox add some thin sliders to the arm and shoulder specifically, just make sure what is said here is taken with a large pinch of salt. These armour section will just rotate out of their places. Brilliant idea, no doubt excellent quality, let down by its functionality in an even minor off.
Given this is the MK3 version, I'm surprised they didn't add a velcro strap near the elbow like some other jackets have. Seems like an oversight for sure.
I was on your website looking to order this MK3 to replace the MK1 I bought from you guys several years ago. Has your sizing guide changed between MK1 & MK3? I tried to find the MK1 info on your website to compare the size guides, but it is not there any more :(
@@UrbanRiderlondon Is the MK3 is slightly smaller or bigger compared to the MK1? I'm asking because the MK3 size guide puts me in the same size as my MK1. Depending if the MK3 is smaller or bigger will determine the fit. Appreciate the help, thank you.
Mine came today and fits like a glove XL, possibly could have gone to an L but all is good. I have all three jackets now plus the Honister . Fantastic jackets/shirts . Going to sell the honister only worn once . Any takers ?.
Do Knox do anything like this but for your lower half? Either an over trouser or sort of thermal mesh like under layer? Seems like a missed opportunity if not.
Hi, it seems like you are between sizes. Possibly a size Medium would be a better fit but of course it all depends on the individual and it's best to try it on and see. - Iza
Knox Urbane Pro MK3 is a much less secure product than Knox Urbane Pro MK2. It's just a way to cut costs and sell at a higher price. Save some money and buy the MK2. I have both, but will be wearing the MK3 with the protections from the MK2.
Thanks but how can you say the Honister is the middle ground between the range of all them when you say it is the highest level earlier in your vid?? 🥴
The fact that this doesn't protect the chest at all is so puzzling to me. Why go through all this effort just to get slammed in the chest where you're basically wearing nothing? Apparently you have to buy a torso insert and just zip it under everything like some after thought.
Hi Ray, the Urbane Pro is indeed a very snug garment but a lot of our customers with all body shapes have them. It's a matter of trying it on and possibly going for a size bigger :) - Iza
I just bought one, only taking the chest measurement into account. I do have a belly and according to the size chart, my waist was 18 cm (7 inch) to big. It still fits perfectly.
I purchased the Knox Urbane Pro Mk3 in July 2023. I’m a weekend warrior and I’ve put less than 40 hours of use on my jacket when the cuffs began to fray. I wrote the company directly as well as sending photos, to which they responded , that the frayed cuffs were a result of repeated abrasion from gloves, or likely wear from the Velcro closure on gloves. They said that they would not replace the jacket or refund my money. I was disappointed to say the least, particularly when “abrasion resistance“ is the company’s advertisement lead. Clearly, the material used at the cuffs is flimsy at best, and inconsistent with the durability of the rest of the jacket. I pride myself on taking meticulous care of my equipment, and for the company to suggest that the use of gloves on a motorcycle jacket caused this premature wear and damage is ridiculous and indefensible. These companies have a captive audience as well as regulatory capture to inflate their prices, and to advertise an abrasion resistant armored shirt that is now literally falling apart at the seams after less than 40 hours of use is shameful.
I have the exact same problem, but I’ve been scouring the internet and haven’t found others with the same problem till now. It’s honestly a joke that a heavy duty motorcycle jacket gets broken from light friction when it’s supposed to tolerate sliding on asphalt at extreme speeds. My country has quite strict consumer protection laws so I’m hoping I can get a replacement jacket or a repair. What did you do about it in your case?
@@joarsund3855 After several emails, they finally offered to repair it, but I’m responsible for paying to ship it to the UK, which I won’t do. I’m writing a letter to the CEO instead. I don’t expect to hear back. It should be noted that I bought it directly from the manufacturer. Had I bought it from Revzilla or other distributor, I think they would have honored a return.
@@Jetblackt120 alright thanks for the info. Mine isn’t only frayed around the edges but the cuff itself has also broken at the seam, Is yours too? I’m also wondering what I’m going to do if I get a new one. I don’t want to destroy it in the same way. Maybe gloves without Velcro
@@joarsund3855 I hope you have better luck with the company than I did. I think the best we can hope for is that they’ll hear our message and improve the product.
It's worth trying to contact the original seller/retailer regarding the issue (depending on your local consumer protection laws)
The Achilles heel of this product is that afterthought of a chest protector. It’s extremely bulky, a little inconvenient to fit and doesn’t stay in place when the jacket is unzipped. I absolutely loved everything else about the Mk2 product, including the class leading back protector coverage, but to not have a split chest protector permanently able to be fitted in pockets is a huge oversight so I reluctantly sold mine. I just purchased a similar product which has split chest pockets and my mesh jacket also has these. I can’t overstate how bulky it is which is probably why it’s not installed for the video.
What was the similar product you bought?
Come on dude, don't gatekeep the alternative you bought!
Bowtex Elite Armored Shirt. It’s AAA Rated, dyneema construction and low profile level 2 elbow and shoulder with split chest pockets. It’s already lower profile than this shirt but I put L2 d3o Ghost armour everywhere and I hardly know I’m wearing it. It’s a much better product IMHO, with the exception of the back protector coverage which is greater with the Knox shirt.
@@johnm6683 Looks like a very nice product but there are two more downsides you didn't list not only is the back protector shorter but it's sold separately so have you to hope both are in stock which has been an issue before, also makes it slightly more expensive which the Knox already is, next is it's only available in black which even being full mesh in hot sunny weather you WILL be sweating and having it stick to you.
I love my gray Urbane but that Bowtex definitely looks like a great alternative, if only it came in white or gray may have been a future purchase for me.
@@shauns5278 toss a light colored shirt or jersey over top and the color doesnt matter. Plus Bowtex uses double layers of their dyneema fabric at impact points - getting to AAA while being way cheaper then the honnister.
Interesting. I like the back protector coming down lower than the Forcefield I currently wear.
Just got mine today! Honestly, the videos & images do it no justice, it's so much more awesome in real!
Great to hear!
what do you wear over the top?
Can't wait to buy the mk3, upgrading from the original. I went xl but it was very tight in the shoulders.
Looking forward to the new compact armour and AA rating
I’m still rocking the MK1 jacket and absolutely love it. I call it my “anti-squid” jacket because every time I leave the house for a fun ride out on a hot day, I might initially plan to head out without a jacket to get that ultimate feeling of “freedom”, but then this jacket just hangs there staring at me and I think, there is literally no reason NOT to throw this on and still get the same airflow. You do feel restricted versus just wearing a T so I will on rare occasion still head out without the Knox jacket, but I’d say since picking this item up, my percentage of trips out to the seafood market has dropped from about 30% to 5%. Clearly, we as riders know how liberating riding without all the gear on can feel, but this jacket at least, removes the “oh, but it’s so hot” excuse from the equation 😁
Hi Ben, I personally still have the MK1 and I absolutely love it and it still holds very strong. It better to be ready and wear it as you never know what can happen. Ride Safe! :) - Iza
Needs sliders on the slidy bits like elbows. Knox does it on its gloves. A zip to attach it to the matching trousers. A more comfortable fit around the neck. The trousers do not flow air as good as they could. Would I buy again. Yes definitely.
The sliders sound a great idea, it was a must have on my gloves
If only Knox made clothing in tall sizes with extra long sleeves. Goes for almost all manufacturers of course. Hardly any cater for tall, yet slim riders.
Awesome! Been waiting for this review, trying to decide between this and the Honister, love the colour options for this one though.
Glad we could help!
Hello! I am an oddly proportionated bloke - - in cms. 177 height, 118 chest, 97 waist, 190 "wing-span" and 82 kg -- so I was wandering which size to order. I ended up ordering the XXL for the Knox Urbane Pro mk3 (online from the Netherlands, I am in Portugal so, since Brexit, I could not buy from you, sorry!) which arrived yesterday. I was worried that it could be a bit big but it fits me fine, just a tad loose on the waist, but not too long on the waist and perfect on the chest, shoulders and my long arms. First impressions: very good jacket, a bit warmer than expect when standing still but considerably more vented than my Merlin Shenstone which is also vented; quite comfortable; and it fits really fine underneath other non-armoured jackets. First annoyance: the internal mobile pocket is too high up and is too narrow and that makes it a pain to insert and remove the phone, especially due to the grippy case on the mobile. I believe it has potential to become my most used jacket. Thank you for your review.
I really like the knox Urbane range ,however i haven't had much luck with the mk2 utility jacket which fell apart after, poor production quality. Gave up after the second one. The Urbane Pro trousers really don't flow enough air to be considered as a summer mesh pant.
Just bought one… a brilliant idea, brilliantly executed.
Great to hear!
what do you wear over the top?
@@Kendo87 …anything I like. I have a cheap, ex-Politzei goretex jacket in my tail bag, so I’ve ridden in jumpers, hoodies, lumberjack shirts… Knox takes care of the impact protection so you could ride in a tux if your fancied it.
@@mattwilliams9758 thanks Matt. I was reading on a forum that the Knox armour alone isn’t sufficient for abrasion and it’s best to wear a biking jacket as well but this defeats the point of it for me. I’ll wear a very lightweight jacket or jumper I think.
How is the size / fit compared to the MK1?
And how does the thickness of the new lvl 2 armour compare to the previous lvl 1 armour?
I don't have the option of trying it on first so this info would be helpful.
Nobody seems to have TALL…. I’m 6’5”.. really tough finding anything that fits and that you like. And when you’re looking for summer weight and riding in 95+ degree weather, why do they seem to only offer dark colors? How about white? Give me a XLT White.
Knox need to do a grey version with hi-viz yellow on shoulders, on back & on chest.
Or like the Proviz Reflect 360 CSR so it's bright high Vis coloured during the day but whenever artificial lights shine on it the whole thing illuminates
Looks like the still didn't address the collar being harsh on your skin. I've sent the MkII back because it marked my neck with the mesh wrapped around the collar. And my neck is far from being thick. The only way to work around this is wearing a t-shirt with a high-ish collar.
Hi Rick, a few of us own this jacket and are not experiencing the collar to be an issue, it's also not something that our customers mention a lot so it might have been something to do with a individual fit and preference. We do have other great mesh jackets worth considering if you would like, these can be found here: www.urbanrider.co.uk/jackets/vented.html - Iza
That's odd that is actually usually one of the most common praises I see is that it lacks a standard collar and prevents this. Are you sure you didn't buy one size too small? It is an extremely snug product.
2.45 - 'stays where it is' - I can tell you from experience, that this is rubbish. Don't wear this and assume all will be well in a crash, particularly even the smallest slide as happened to me. I've said it before, but until Knox add some thin sliders to the arm and shoulder specifically, just make sure what is said here is taken with a large pinch of salt. These armour section will just rotate out of their places. Brilliant idea, no doubt excellent quality, let down by its functionality in an even minor off.
Given this is the MK3 version, I'm surprised they didn't add a velcro strap near the elbow like some other jackets have.
Seems like an oversight for sure.
I liked the video, I bought the jacket.
Great to hear!
Is the back protector also slimmer than the one found on the Mk2 Urbane Pro?
I was on your website looking to order this MK3 to replace the MK1 I bought from you guys several years ago.
Has your sizing guide changed between MK1 & MK3? I tried to find the MK1 info on your website to compare the size guides, but it is not there any more :(
Hi! Yes, the sizing has changed a bit between the MK1 and the newer MK3 so please follow the size guide on the MK3 version! - Iza
@@UrbanRiderlondon
Is the MK3 is slightly smaller or bigger compared to the MK1?
I'm asking because the MK3 size guide puts me in the same size as my MK1. Depending if the MK3 is smaller or bigger will determine the fit. Appreciate the help, thank you.
Mine came today and fits like a glove XL, possibly could have gone to an L but all is good. I have all three jackets now plus the Honister . Fantastic jackets/shirts . Going to sell the honister only worn once . Any takers ?.
Sold it yet ?
@@linepulseno still available.
@@stevenesq honister in XL ? You in London mate ?
@@linepulsexl yes , I live in cheltenham.
is the Honister that much more uncomfortable? What's your average riding temp?
For hot weathers what is the most breathable? This or the pando moto commando?
Hi! As they are both mesh jackets the breathability will be very similar. - Iza
Do Knox do anything like this but for your lower half? Either an over trouser or sort of thermal mesh like under layer? Seems like a missed opportunity if not.
Hi! They actually have a Urbane Pro trousers in their range: www.urbanrider.co.uk/knox-urbane-pro-trousers-black.html - Iza
for a hot weather up to 45 degrees Celsius, Tor or Urban Pro?
Both are great choices! - Iza
Thanks for the video. What size would you recommend for a 36 1/2" chest?
Hi, it seems like you are between sizes. Possibly a size Medium would be a better fit but of course it all depends on the individual and it's best to try it on and see. - Iza
Nader Extensions
48" chest looks like 3xl is solid out darnit.
More stock coming soon!
Will d30 armour fit in this?
Hi, the Knox armour is most suitable for this jacket. - Iza
@@UrbanRiderlondonIt does fit. Ghost d30 is better in terms of comfort.
Knox Urbane Pro MK3 is a much less secure product than Knox Urbane Pro MK2. It's just a way to cut costs and sell at a higher price. Save some money and buy the MK2. I have both, but will be wearing the MK3 with the protections from the MK2.
Hi Florin, the MK3 armour had to go through the same tasting as all armour that goes into any safety equipment. - Iza
What are you talking about? The MK3 is definitely safer than the MK2 since it comes with lvl 2 armor instead of lvl 1.
Is there kevlar in this jacket?
Hi! The jacket is made from high tenacity stretch nylon and breathable arrownet mesh for abrasion, cut, and tear resistance. - Iza
Sally Trail
Thanks but how can you say the Honister is the middle ground between the range of all them when you say it is the highest level earlier in your vid?? 🥴
The Honnister is the highest safety rated item in the lineup. The Urbane Pro is the middle ground between this and the Action Pro.
The fact that this doesn't protect the chest at all is so puzzling to me. Why go through all this effort just to get slammed in the chest where you're basically wearing nothing? Apparently you have to buy a torso insert and just zip it under everything like some after thought.
Isnt it unlikely to hit chest? I mean I wanna get this for e scooter badly
Too tight under the arm. This isn't necessary to keep armour in place.
Is this product only for people with no belly? Looks snug!
Yup, it's very snug.
It is snug, but it pulls things in. My wife refers to mine as my biker's corset.
Hi Ray, the Urbane Pro is indeed a very snug garment but a lot of our customers with all body shapes have them. It's a matter of trying it on and possibly going for a size bigger :) - Iza
I just bought one, only taking the chest measurement into account. I do have a belly and according to the size chart, my waist was 18 cm (7 inch) to big. It still fits perfectly.