"Saddling" her with Butterscotch. Because horses wear saddles. And she is a horse. And Butterscotch is a horse. Do you get it. Do you get the joke about the sadd-- okay, there's like five more pages of this.
It's shocking how underrated this episode is considering Beatrice's phone call is one of the most hard-hitting pieces of dialogue of the entire show for me.
Beatrice's "backhanded apology" is one of the most disgusting, blasphemous victim blaming I've ever heard. Like "I'm sorry if you are born from horrible people, and you are doomed to be a horrible person". I dont give a damn if she has a worse childhood than Bojack. She had many opportunities to change for the better time and time again, but she kept rejecting them over and over again (unlike Bojack that at least he does try with mixed results). If she ended up dying hated by everyone is only her fault.
It's no wonder BoJack yeeted her doll off the balcony! If BoJack can teach us anything, it's that even though others can do bad to us, it doesn't give us any right to do the same to others. Then, we become just as bad as those who did bad to us.
In his own "BoJack" way, BoJack surpassed the mistakes of his shitbag parents. Unlike Butterscotch, BoJack's TV shows, movies and book were successful. BoJack also never had any affairs, despite being promiscuous like his father. And unlike Beatrice, BoJack actually sought help and to better himself instead of letting his past trauma completely define him.
Something I realised after watching this video is just how the "Keep going" message of Secretariat might be added to the "Don't stop dancing" message of Beatrice. And since we all know, secretariat is kind of a father figure to BoJack, so it will mean that mindset was pass to him by both of his "parents"
A message he passes down to Sarah Lynn on the set of horsing around. As her TV dad, he imparts a bit of wisdom which he genuinely sees as good parental advice because he gets it from his parents. They did so much damage to him
It wasn’t until today that I put two and two together and realized that Bojack nearly dies very similarly to how Secretariat died. I mean, impact with water is different than drowning while drunk, but falling into water is a common thread between them.
Your comment made me realize the connection he made to water during the Free Churro speech. "All three of us were drowning, and we didn't know how to save each other, but there was an understanding that we were all drowning together."
Like in the opening too....I saw some video about water being a common theme in Bojack but I forgot who covered that. Also when Ana talked about nearly drowning and how she became a lifeguard.
Mob Psycho 100 is always a good recommendation. The comedy is different and not straightforward but it asks meaningful and important questions and it is really emotional. But it's an anime and not a cartoon. Still awesome
Tuca and Bertie is another great show produced by Bob-Waksberg that's equally as funny as it is gut wrenching. It covers a lot of different things and it's a shame it got cancelled after only 3 seasons. Definitely recommend it along with Moral Orel [another underrated show that Adult Swim cancelled]
@@stellafanders already watched the first two seasons and waiting for the third one to finish airing, while I agree with your comment, it's not as heavy as Bojack due to it being more grounded. However, Mob is really great and is in my top 10 fav anime alongside Made in Abyss.
I love how his mom’s comment “Well, its not Ibsen” was referenced in the final episode where he’s in prison directing the Ibsen play “Hedda Gabler.” I love how intentional this show is with the references.
@@Bella-bn2lq - Exactly! And the subject matter of A Dolls House (a dissatisfied wife and a controlling husband) definitely fits that scene too. This show continues to amaze me.
It's scary, but I truly believe she didn't say those things to be "mean". Cruelty is just so saturated into her personality, her life, that every single word that comes out of her mouth can't help but be condescending and bitter. By telling him that there's nothing about him that can or should be fixed, she's comforting herself with the same words.
@@low-keydrama1260 I actually think this is too nice. I think she's only trying to comfort herself. If there's nothing I could have done, he always would have been broken. So it's okay I hated him, abused him and never showed an ounce of kindness. It's a copout because if he can change, she can change and Beatrice is completely unwilling to do so. In fact, I think it's one of her most selfish acts. By telling him there's no cure, she is trying to condemn him to the same fate so she can continue avoiding the truth. Man this turned out to be a lot of stuff.
True, we see the story from Bojack's perspective and, since he was already dreading being called by Beatrice, maybe the message was meant to be an apology from her. But she doesn't get to determine how Bojack hears or feels about her words. She said them, he felt about them the same way he felt about everything else she told him.
@lyndsaybrown8471 Yep, that's definitely what it appears like. That's Beatrice's way of an apology but she can't actually portray love and remorse towards her son cause she's spent her whole motherhood not doing so out of her own trauma.
The fact that "What are you doing here?" becomes a bit of a catchphrase for Bojack for a while after this is actually great for a number of reasons. On the one hand, its a funny callback, that, in my opinion got funnier each time it came up and Bojack just said it without thinking. Also, as someone with experience acting on stage, its kind of relatable; sometimes the hardest lines to deliver are the ordinary every day phrases we say _all the time._ Some big grandiose speech, the kind of which only exists in theatre? Easy - once you know the words, it fits together like a jigsaw puzzle and the necessary inflection comes naturally. A line like "What are you doing here" can feel so alien to speak in a scripted and rehearsed setting, even if its a phrase we're literally using in the exact correct inflection multiple times per day.
@@notaburneraccount that's a great point, I been in stage theater too and that's so true. It's hard to not ham up a simple normal line if you are usually in chaotic melodramatic mode for the rest of the time.
A few things that I feel like should be pointed out. One this is the last thing Beatrice ever said to Bojack, the time we see her she can't even recognize him. Two, she does the same thing Bojack does when he talks the princess Carolyn, giving a very serious and thought provoking speech, then immediately changes the subject before anyone has time to process to ask for a favor. Lastly, this maybe the first time Beatrice talks to Bojack and it's not an insult, infact it maybe the nicest thing she ever did for him, acknowledge she is a terrible person, and that he's feeling are valid.
Idk man, I don't think she acknowledge anything. She basicly said "I am sorry you feel sad, but what else did you expect to happen." I agree maybe she tried to be nice, but this woman has no idea how to do this
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 I was thinking about that, but I don't count it because yes she did see Bojack but she was still out of it, just asking questions about where she about to panic. And Bojack in one moment of sympathy or pity, I don't know, painted her up picture where she can be a little happy. This is a fully conscience Beatrice giving her last dose of "motherly wisdom" to her son.
It's perfect that he's trying to portray Secretariat, of all people, while dealing with this. Ironically, the positive, upbeat, ignore-it-all attitude is probably how Secretariat would've wanted to seem and be remembered (albeit in a less sitcom-y style). But that's not who he was, and even though he internalized advice from his public persona and mindset, it isn't who Bojack is or what he has in common with his idol.
Gotta agree this episode is overlooked. And I'm glad Raphael confirmed that Bojack heard Secretariat's "advice". Watching Beatrice tell Bojack it's his birthright to he unhappy always hurts. She definitely took Honey's advice to heart and not love anyone else. Also glad for this breakdown cause ngl, sometimes I was confused with Secretariat's advice. It makes more sense that you can't let the past hold you down but you also gotta work with problems from the past that keep holding you down
The worst part about all of it is that Bojack was trying to do better about his depression in this episode and trying to take steps to change his mindset. But that one conversation with Beatrice made him go back into despair.
That phone call saved his ass despite how horrible it was. He wasn’t truly moving forward despite “trying”. It’s trying the same way someone might try to curl a 100 pound dumbbell. Real trying is putting in the work over time
@@bigpictureguys8415 BoJack was misguided, and thought that he could jump from point A (deep, life-long depression) to point B (a "positive new attitude") with just a podcast and some nice words to people around him. He did TRY, but because he didn't have any help to guide him through it all, he ended up... BoJacking it up as always. :( The phone call with his mother may have saved him from continuing a lie (and saved the dark Secretariat scene), but it also smacked him straight back into the alcohol-fueled pattern of ignoring his past and being cynical to those around him. I really wouldn't call Beatrice's call with BoJack helpful :\
@@Zhao328 I would, primarily because it pulled him out of the toxic positivity spiral that was derailing things for him in the movie, as he arguably would’ve been fired if it had kept up. Forced positivity is also draining, and he likely would’ve snapped at some point and worsened his already precarious relationships. It wasn’t helpful on a solo level, but I do think it was *more* helpful than if he’d stuck with the “brand new attitude”.
Hmm I’m not sure if this was truly him “doing better”. It kind of felt like he was avoiding his problems with toxic positivity. Bojack couldn’t help himself alone. He needed therapy and rehab amongst other things. It was sad seeing but that phone call pulled him back to reality.
I'm glad this episode finally got an analysis. It really deserved one and I was pretty disappointed that I hadn't seen one fully dedicated to it before now. So many episodes in this show deserve analysis.
As much as I wish I could watch Bojack for the first time again, I find myself loving the show more and more with each rematch. It's so nice to notice something you didn't previously, and gain a new understanding of what's happening. Bojack is incredible.
i agree, after i rewatched it i noticed so many more things about it that i hadn't noticed the first 2 times i watched it. especially after watching the analyzing videos, it made me understand all the characters so much more.
One aspect of this episode that I think got skipped over is the other runner. At the beginning of the episode he breezes by Bojack when he's struggling on the hill. At the end of the episode, he stops to encourage him. He tells Bojack something like "the hill doesn't get easier, but you get better at it." To me, this means that Bojack went through the Dunning-Kruger effect in regards to moving on. When he knows very little about moving on he's totally confident he can do it, right at the top of Mt. Stupid. As he learns more, he realizes how little he knew and how far there is to go, dropping into the real starting point In the Valley of Despair. And as time goes by he slowly works up towards expertise peaking in season 6 before... well. Everything irreversible caught up to him at once.
In a flash back episode you see the runner has a wife and they jog together. But in all other episodes he's alone. Makes you wonder what battles he may be facing
"It gets easier. But you have to do it every day, that's the hard part. But it DOES get easier." I'm reciting it from memory, but I'm certain that's the line.
one of the saddest (and most realistic) parts about this show is that no character ever really knows or understands how deeply terrible and alienating bojacks childhood was. through the series he’s mostly met with “yeah yeah you had a tough time growing up so did everybody” even from people who care about him. and maybe the saddest part of it is that it’s because he can’t ever open up enough to tell people about it. he wants to be known so badly but he’s terrified of letting others know him
@@bobkerr2755 same that’s why I stayed away from it for so long. Looked like the millionth shitty adult cartoon. But my sister recommended and boy was I wrong
I don't know if its just me, but the thing that surprised me most about the Beatrice Phone Call was that she was still alive. I'd interpreted Bojack's vision of him kneeling by his parent's graves as a literal sign his parents were dead
And then you left the best line untapped. When he delivers the line, the director doesn't yell cut. She says, "let's move on" as if the best advice he needed was sitting right there on the new couch but Bojack can't let go.
I love, love, love, LOVE the endings you've done with certain Bojack videos lately, like this and Best Thing That Ever Happened, where you use the actual lines of the characters, from using them to answer a question, to actually pointing out actual things that happened in the show. I wanted you to know your effort to script the videos doesn't go unnoticed.
I need to write a fanfic where little bojack is adopted by a good person and become a good person, because I still can't cope with how sad this character is, and I want him to be happy so BAD
I was thinking about the moment when he asks if Diane believes he's a good person. She is silent and then says that she thinks that it cannot be so easily determined. But I'm not Diane. And I'll tell you. Bojack can really be good. You can remember a lot of bad things that he did. He filled all the boards with them himself and didn't even finish it to the end. But let's remember. All seasons, different people and animals live in his house every now and then, arrange parties, hold events and so on. He allows it. Yes, because Bojack is afraid to be left alone, but still.. Bojack saved the lives of several characters, sometimes risking his own. He helped Hollyhock find her mom. He supported Princess Caroline when she signed his name without his knowledge. Because of him, Hollywood assistants received better treatment, he provoked this strike. He gave good advice sometimes. And it was the last time he talked to his mom that he made her feel in a good place. And I always feel happy when I think about the fact that Bojack gave Mr. Peanutbutter his long-awaited crossover. So it's not that hard to think of Bojack as a good person. He was always vulnerable. Hence fear, complexes, the desire to drown out pain, the desire to forget, selfishness and the desire to assert themselves, sometimes at the expense of others. But if he hadn't been so afraid of losing everything, if he hadn't felt so much pain, if someone had been with him from the very beginning, giving him unconditional love, maybe he would have coped. He wouldn't hurt a girl at school who was kind to him. I would have found the courage to stand up for a friend and could have found enough sympathy in myself to somehow make Sarah Lynn's life easier. Maybe it wouldn't have been like that, but who knows. I believe that Bojack is not destined to be bad. I believe that Bojack Horseman can really be a good person.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who still holding on tight to BoJack. It's my second time rewatch and I'm having as much as entertained as I did the first time, but with deeper look. The first time I only wanna see the joke and afraid of getting too deep at the dark side, but now I'm all in. BoJack touched you in no way other show could.
This episode sticks with me more than almost any other because it proves the complexity of the writing. I think this is best exampled in Beatrice. She seems to hate Bojack's guts, but she keeps showing up for him and reads his book of her own volition and keeps reaching out after she's read it. I think she's genuinely trying her best to apologize, but it comes out in such a way that it deeply wounds Bojack. The "birthright" comment strikes me as her admitting to the generational trauma she inflicted onto him. Yet, she refuses to offer real support in his attempt to grow past it (bad as it is, New Couch was Bojack trying to change). It's such an interesting dichotomy that we end up seeing in all the characters throughout the show. This is why the show overall ends up being so much fun to analyze and pick apart. None of this is to say season one wasn't fun and fascinating, but I don't think any whole episode in it is as perfect an example of why Bojack Horseman's such a good show as Brand New Couch. This is where the writing became so tight and hinted at how many layers we'd have to sort through.
I'm really glad you reviewed this episode. That scene with his mother telling him he was garbage because he came from garbage was one of the most horrible things I've seen on a show. That poor kid
I've been rewatching the show, and I just finished up this season. I had never noticed all the times he asks, "what are you doing here?" until this rewatch, but I was really struck by one time when he asked, "what am I doing here?" I wanted to know what you thought about it, cuz I didn't remember you ever talking about it, so I was very excited when you released this!
Wonderful episode analysis as usual. Brand New Couch really is an underrated episode, I always found myself going back to that phone call and playing Beatrice's words on loop. It's telling that the one time we ever really hear Beatrice speak gently to her son, she's also delivering some of the harshest blows she may have ever dealt him. It's cruel, it's haunting, and it's another example of why Bojack's writing will be talked about for a long while. Keep at it!
Man, I love you episode breakdowns of Bojack. I hope you do one of It’s You. I’d love for you to examine Todd’s speech to Bojack and how everything they went through together built up to it.
For some reason, the line from this episode I keep thinking about the most is: "Don't sit so close to the tv. It'll make you cruel." There's a lot of layers to that line that I'm not sure the show ever fully unravelled.
Honestly Johnny your break downs are amazing especially for a show like Bojack Horseman. There's so much to unpack from that show. They did so much I can't wait to see your next Bojack breakdown.
I loved this episode, I found it low-key relatable. When I started highschool I wanted to feel better about myself, and less suicidal, so I started listening to self help books, working out, trying to get better like that. It didn’t work. I had to spend a few weeks feeling bad to accept it’s ok I felt that way but I can feel better
My favourite thing about Bojack playing Secretariat is that he doesn't need to play a vastly different character. He just needs to be himself. The audition he has at the end of season 1 could easily be mistaken for Bojack being Bojack. The scene in The Shot where he can't cry but Kelsey is able to see how naturally broken he is that they instantly get the perfect shot without him needing to cry. And here, all it takes is a short conversation with his mother to reassert who he is and he gets the take in one.
I’ve been watching your king of the hill videos and I barely got into Bojack a few days ago ad I’m one season 6 already. It was one of your videos that actually got me into it. Keep up the good work 🙏
It's incredible that you continue to have so many insightful thoughts about this show, I always love your content but your Bojack content is what brought me here initially, and I always love to see more
Do you think that this phone call with Beatrice was the thing that Bojack thought about when they got the shot in the Nixon library? The speech that Kelsey delivers about Bojack realising that there's something broken inside him that can never be fixed always brings me back to the themes in this episode, especially how Beatrice tells him that there's no cure for being Bojack Horseman - he was born broken and believes that he can't be fixed, which is false. He does fix himself in S6, but for years before that he believes that he can't be fixed because of this mentality of generational trauma and being permanently broken that Beatrice drilled into his head from childhood. And that's one of the things that cuts Bojack the deepest, as it's reflecting on that notion that allows him to cry on screen for the only time in the entire run of the show (from what I can remember).
I really miss this show! I wish they would put it back up again. so many unanswered questions! Like, PCs father and his death. Todd's mother, I want to see exactly how Peanut Butter life was like growing up! so much! Such a great show.
oh ty Johnny! never got why this episode went so under the radar when for me it was a "before and after" experience. truly, was the first time that TV made me go "Oh, they are going to tell my story, which means i'm not alone" it was all very trippy the "what are you doing here" delivery is clearly an inflection he would had used in a sitcom like "Horsin Around" and he mentioned to PC while doing Philbert that he was afraid of playing a sad and conflicted character because he didnt wanted himself to be that way.. anyways, kudos as always!
Would love to see a video essay on “hank after dark” or “let’s find out.” Season 2 honestly birthed some of the most overlooked episodes as well as episodes that would shape the rest of the series. The season 2 premiere was an episode that didn’t particularly stick out to me and after watching this, I look at the premiere differently.
Dealing with trauma is a difficult and arduous process. I'm glad Bojack realized that ws what he truly needed to do. As a not-well adjusted person myself, I'm also unpacking my shit to be in a better place.
this episode kills me every time, the way he is unable to deliver the line is comical to so many but it's so telling of an underlying personality disorder and his mother's phone call is chilling.
It’s interesting that his idol Secretariat advises Bojack to keep looking forward and that “All that exists is whats ahead”. It’s actually poor advice that suggests he is running from something in his past and present. Peace is found in the present. All that exists is now. Although It’s not good to dwell in the past, Its equally unhealthy to worry about the future. In Secretariats descent from the bridge, he finds a moment of peace in the present moment.
The thing secretariat should have mentioned about the past is that the traumas and hangups are like weights. To process them is to untie those weights and free yourself to move faster and better.
The way Bojack’s mother is able to still beat him down like that, at the end on the phone. It just reminds me of how my father is still able to do that to me. I relate to Bojack very much, but I broke the cycle thanks with the help of my mother who also had a horrible parent.
Please continue to create your Bojack horseman episode videos. This is such an under appreciated show and it's great to unpack all these episodes in the details that you do. Continue your work ❤️
Knowing that the creators intended Bojack sitting so close to the tv to mean that he was internalizing the advice to never look back and keep running, the same advice that leads to a lot of his issues later on, makes Beatrice’s line right after much more interesting “don’t sit so close to the television, it will make you cruel” In the end she was right, it did make him cruel later in life
This is one of my favorite episodes. Looking back can be so painful while looking forward is like looking at an empty canvas but there’ll be nothing on it, if I don’t look back and understand what happened. This revelation through the series has really started my healing journey
Bojack Ironically wanted to be famous, then in season 1 he said he doesn't want to be known as the horse from horsing around, to being bought out of the series, erased because of the controversy and in the future he'll be forgotten in later generations so he got what he wanted
This was the episode that got me hooked on the show. The final match cut from the "there's no cure fo that" scene to the "what are you doing here" scene is an imense gut punch.
When i was dealing with an depression and a parent wilt alcohol issues i really got to learn alot from bojack horseman, the hart hitting words and advices did help me deal with my own past, learn to forgive it and try to do something so i can feel whole again. now rewatching the show after al that years down the line i see that it is possible to make amends with yourself and your issues and learn to move on with them. if you reading this in a dark time you can remember that you can learn to love and accept yourself again. it took me 5 years and still counting. but now i genuine feel happy were i am and were i can go
Bojack should have completely cut Beatrice out of his life once he hit 18 he would have been better off but with the time he was raised in you’re supposed to love your family no matter how horrible they were to you and just ignore the bad things this is why Bojack is never able to face this trauma and properly deal with it.
Maybe don’t cut people off because someone else tells you you should? You have to decide for yourself if they really hurt you in such a bad and consistent way to go no-contact.
@@SupHapCak Too many people keep toxic people in their lives because they're family or you're supposed to forgive and forget it damages the person and often causes them to act in unhealthy ways like Bojack does.
This episode made me go to therapy, because it was watching this episode where I realized that I did not have a good relationship with my mother, and that I have hung onto some of the most toxic things she said and did to me- and it’s making me kind of a bad person to other people too.
Great video, Johnny! I'm aware that this might be a bit of an uncomfortable subject matter but I'd love to see your analysis of 'Hank After Dark'. A hard episode to get through but, in my opinion, it is one of the most important in the show.
Honestly, I'd be happy to watch any video you do on BoJack as it's not only a phenomenal show but I appreciate your insightful commentary. If I were to ask you to consider a specific episode that you haven't done I think episodes with unique social commentary like "Thoughts & Prayers" would be amazing to break down (the idea that the US disliking women more than loving guns idea has so many layers in itself). Those episodes in particular also reward the audience for paying attention to the background details and the story. Similarly "Hank After Dark" came out before the #metoo movement so that's another specific example. Regardless, thank you for making these videos!
i feel like this series should be on netflix. you do a great job of breaking down the episode and helping the audience think through and connect certain ideas
I wonder if the writers for this episode actually know of the scam called the Self-Help market to make Bojack's superficiality linked to such. A lot of the self help products and services available are at best superficial...
i know beatrice's backhanded way of apologizing is still being completely abuse, but there isn't much i wouldn't give to have that acknowledgement of all the shit he did to me from my own father, to be honest.
I think this is the earliest I've been to one of your BoJack Breakdowns. Speaking of, I noticed this episode and Mr. Peanutbutter's Boo's aren't on the playlist for them. I also noticed your video analyzing the intro sequence isn't on the Breakdown Playlist or the BoJack Horseman Playlist. 6:42 Saw that Diane clip from Mr. Peanutbutter's Boos. 9:54 Mr. Peanutbutter and Pickles clip from Mr. Peanutbutter's Boos. 10:04 Princess Carolyn clip from Brand New Couch. As usual, I have requests for Downer Ending and The Amelia Earhart Story. See you next time!
Something I've noticed through all the roles we see BoJack he never actually learned how to tap into feelings and history and ACT without it being his ENTIRE IDENTITY we saw what it did to him during Horsin Around, the Brief run of the BJH Show he Tried to do it on secretariat but while he was doing the self help all he could portray was the same surface level positivity. And as we saw on Philbert it took every single one of his worse traits and made it so much worse I really don't think he ever learned to do as Princess Carolyn advised him in S5 and know when to "take off through costume and be Bojack"
I noticed this too and it reminds me of all the stories we hear out of Hollywood about "method actors" being insufferable assholes to everyone they work with on productions.
"You're BoJack Horseman, there's no cure for that" always sends shivers down my spine, what a cruel cruel thing to say to your child
That’s a pretty fucked up thing to say to your child adult or not.
I don't get it
@@foxpro3002 She's saying that he will always be broken and can never be fixed, because he was born broken, like her. It's a horrible thing to say.
@@WillowJordan1979 oh thanks
@@WillowJordan1979 had the same conversation with my mother recently and it all but broke me
"Saddling" her with Butterscotch. Because horses wear saddles. And she is a horse. And Butterscotch is a horse. Do you get it. Do you get the joke about the sadd-- okay, there's like five more pages of this.
Underrated comment 🤙
Should I write a comment saying that I get it?
@@_Tozzie_ if you don't how will the OP Know you got it?
I dont get it
I'm a bit confused. Could you further explain?
It's shocking how underrated this episode is considering Beatrice's phone call is one of the most hard-hitting pieces of dialogue of the entire show for me.
It is shocking, it is one of my favourite episodes.
I remember crying for like half a hour first watch
Same it's devastating how she keep chaining him even after all she read
Hooo, that delivery.
I don't understand how it COULD be an underrated episode, there's sooo much information in it. So much to analyze and digest.
Beatrice's "backhanded apology" is one of the most disgusting, blasphemous victim blaming I've ever heard. Like "I'm sorry if you are born from horrible people, and you are doomed to be a horrible person". I dont give a damn if she has a worse childhood than Bojack. She had many opportunities to change for the better time and time again, but she kept rejecting them over and over again (unlike Bojack that at least he does try with mixed results). If she ended up dying hated by everyone is only her fault.
All of them do 😭
It's no wonder BoJack yeeted her doll off the balcony! If BoJack can teach us anything, it's that even though others can do bad to us, it doesn't give us any right to do the same to others. Then, we become just as bad as those who did bad to us.
@@alexvaughan1013 I have to give it to Bojack. After everything his mother did, he was still by her side till the very end.
In his own "BoJack" way, BoJack surpassed the mistakes of his shitbag parents. Unlike Butterscotch, BoJack's TV shows, movies and book were successful. BoJack also never had any affairs, despite being promiscuous like his father. And unlike Beatrice, BoJack actually sought help and to better himself instead of letting his past trauma completely define him.
@@alexvaughan1013 That was the best Bojack could have done - he proofed her to be wrong.
i always thought the way he delivered the “what are you doing here?” line was in the style that he would typically deliver lines on Horsin’ Around
It was
Something I realised after watching this video is just how the "Keep going" message of Secretariat might be added to the "Don't stop dancing" message of Beatrice. And since we all know, secretariat is kind of a father figure to BoJack, so it will mean that mindset was pass to him by both of his "parents"
That “don’t stop” theme also comes up in Sarah Lynn’s song in half-way down.
It’s been a while so I don’t remember the words
A message he passes down to Sarah Lynn on the set of horsing around. As her TV dad, he imparts a bit of wisdom which he genuinely sees as good parental advice because he gets it from his parents. They did so much damage to him
It wasn’t until today that I put two and two together and realized that Bojack nearly dies very similarly to how Secretariat died. I mean, impact with water is different than drowning while drunk, but falling into water is a common thread between them.
Your comment made me realize the connection he made to water during the Free Churro speech. "All three of us were drowning, and we didn't know how to save each other, but there was an understanding that we were all drowning together."
Lol this reminded me of the saying "You can bring a horse to water..."
and in the opening credits bojack falls into his pool, with the season 6 fall being from the top of the planetarium
There's also the painting of Bojack treading water in the background
Like in the opening too....I saw some video about water being a common theme in Bojack but I forgot who covered that. Also when Ana talked about nearly drowning and how she became a lifeguard.
I wish there were more shows like Bojack. It's hitting way deeper than other adult cartoons.
Not animation but Scrubs is the only other show I can think of that has such amazing comedy and hard hitting messages at the same time.
try moral orel! underrated as fuck, and dont spoil ANYTHING for yourself about it
Mob Psycho 100 is always a good recommendation. The comedy is different and not straightforward but it asks meaningful and important questions and it is really emotional. But it's an anime and not a cartoon. Still awesome
Tuca and Bertie is another great show produced by Bob-Waksberg that's equally as funny as it is gut wrenching. It covers a lot of different things and it's a shame it got cancelled after only 3 seasons. Definitely recommend it along with Moral Orel [another underrated show that Adult Swim cancelled]
@@stellafanders already watched the first two seasons and waiting for the third one to finish airing, while I agree with your comment, it's not as heavy as Bojack due to it being more grounded. However, Mob is really great and is in my top 10 fav anime alongside Made in Abyss.
I love how his mom’s comment “Well, its not Ibsen” was referenced in the final episode where he’s in prison directing the Ibsen play “Hedda Gabler.”
I love how intentional this show is with the references.
And Bojack also says, "It's not Ibsen" from time to time
@@DirtySoulsTV and “a dolls house” the play his dad mentions his mother watching and proceeding to spend the day crying is also Ibsen
@@Bella-bn2lq - Exactly! And the subject matter of A Dolls House (a dissatisfied wife and a controlling husband) definitely fits that scene too.
This show continues to amaze me.
He also says it in times arrow when Beatrice is at his house to give him her fathers painting
Funny enough he actually says it in S1 E1 right at the beginning in his interview about Horsin Around
It's scary, but I truly believe she didn't say those things to be "mean". Cruelty is just so saturated into her personality, her life, that every single word that comes out of her mouth can't help but be condescending and bitter. By telling him that there's nothing about him that can or should be fixed, she's comforting herself with the same words.
I agree. It feels like her (poor) attempt to be nice. Even when she tries, she’s so bittered and broken, she ends up still hurting him
@@low-keydrama1260 I actually think this is too nice. I think she's only trying to comfort herself. If there's nothing I could have done, he always would have been broken. So it's okay I hated him, abused him and never showed an ounce of kindness. It's a copout because if he can change, she can change and Beatrice is completely unwilling to do so.
In fact, I think it's one of her most selfish acts. By telling him there's no cure, she is trying to condemn him to the same fate so she can continue avoiding the truth. Man this turned out to be a lot of stuff.
True, we see the story from Bojack's perspective and, since he was already dreading being called by Beatrice, maybe the message was meant to be an apology from her. But she doesn't get to determine how Bojack hears or feels about her words. She said them, he felt about them the same way he felt about everything else she told him.
@@day_dreamer9316Which is what Bojack does to many others, like Sarah Lynn as a child, an adult and when she OD's
@lyndsaybrown8471 Yep, that's definitely what it appears like. That's Beatrice's way of an apology but she can't actually portray love and remorse towards her son cause she's spent her whole motherhood not doing so out of her own trauma.
The fact that "What are you doing here?" becomes a bit of a catchphrase for Bojack for a while after this is actually great for a number of reasons. On the one hand, its a funny callback, that, in my opinion got funnier each time it came up and Bojack just said it without thinking. Also, as someone with experience acting on stage, its kind of relatable; sometimes the hardest lines to deliver are the ordinary every day phrases we say _all the time._ Some big grandiose speech, the kind of which only exists in theatre? Easy - once you know the words, it fits together like a jigsaw puzzle and the necessary inflection comes naturally. A line like "What are you doing here" can feel so alien to speak in a scripted and rehearsed setting, even if its a phrase we're literally using in the exact correct inflection multiple times per day.
I felt like the way he delivered the line is existential crisis with a smile 😅
@@notaburneraccount that's a great point, I been in stage theater too and that's so true. It's hard to not ham up a simple normal line if you are usually in chaotic melodramatic mode for the rest of the time.
I notice how the WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE line sounds even like a sitcom gag in his original deliveries.
Michael Jordan's "Is it in you?" Gatorade commercial outtakes immediately came to mind
A few things that I feel like should be pointed out. One this is the last thing Beatrice ever said to Bojack, the time we see her she can't even recognize him. Two, she does the same thing Bojack does when he talks the princess Carolyn, giving a very serious and thought provoking speech, then immediately changes the subject before anyone has time to process to ask for a favor. Lastly, this maybe the first time Beatrice talks to Bojack and it's not an insult, infact it maybe the nicest thing she ever did for him, acknowledge she is a terrible person, and that he's feeling are valid.
Idk man, I don't think she acknowledge anything. She basicly said "I am sorry you feel sad, but what else did you expect to happen."
I agree maybe she tried to be nice, but this woman has no idea how to do this
It's not the last thing. In the nursing home she recognizes him. Before she dies.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 Maybe? I think they left it kind of open in "Free Churro", whether she said "I see you" or just read "ICU" in a sign.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 I was thinking about that, but I don't count it because yes she did see Bojack but she was still out of it, just asking questions about where she about to panic. And Bojack in one moment of sympathy or pity, I don't know, painted her up picture where she can be a little happy. This is a fully conscience Beatrice giving her last dose of "motherly wisdom" to her son.
@@d.phantomfan1216 She called him Henritta. I think in the end she was semi lucid and Bojack lulled her back to dream world. I think she saw him.
It's perfect that he's trying to portray Secretariat, of all people, while dealing with this. Ironically, the positive, upbeat, ignore-it-all attitude is probably how Secretariat would've wanted to seem and be remembered (albeit in a less sitcom-y style). But that's not who he was, and even though he internalized advice from his public persona and mindset, it isn't who Bojack is or what he has in common with his idol.
Gotta agree this episode is overlooked. And I'm glad Raphael confirmed that Bojack heard Secretariat's "advice".
Watching Beatrice tell Bojack it's his birthright to he unhappy always hurts. She definitely took Honey's advice to heart and not love anyone else.
Also glad for this breakdown cause ngl, sometimes I was confused with Secretariat's advice. It makes more sense that you can't let the past hold you down but you also gotta work with problems from the past that keep holding you down
The worst part about all of it is that Bojack was trying to do better about his depression in this episode and trying to take steps to change his mindset. But that one conversation with Beatrice made him go back into despair.
That phone call saved his ass despite how horrible it was. He wasn’t truly moving forward despite “trying”. It’s trying the same way someone might try to curl a 100 pound dumbbell. Real trying is putting in the work over time
@@bigpictureguys8415 BoJack was misguided, and thought that he could jump from point A (deep, life-long depression) to point B (a "positive new attitude") with just a podcast and some nice words to people around him. He did TRY, but because he didn't have any help to guide him through it all, he ended up... BoJacking it up as always. :( The phone call with his mother may have saved him from continuing a lie (and saved the dark Secretariat scene), but it also smacked him straight back into the alcohol-fueled pattern of ignoring his past and being cynical to those around him. I really wouldn't call Beatrice's call with BoJack helpful :\
@@Zhao328 I would, primarily because it pulled him out of the toxic positivity spiral that was derailing things for him in the movie, as he arguably would’ve been fired if it had kept up. Forced positivity is also draining, and he likely would’ve snapped at some point and worsened his already precarious relationships. It wasn’t helpful on a solo level, but I do think it was *more* helpful than if he’d stuck with the “brand new attitude”.
Hmm I’m not sure if this was truly him “doing better”. It kind of felt like he was avoiding his problems with toxic positivity. Bojack couldn’t help himself alone. He needed therapy and rehab amongst other things. It was sad seeing but that phone call pulled him back to reality.
I'm glad this episode finally got an analysis. It really deserved one and I was pretty disappointed that I hadn't seen one fully dedicated to it before now. So many episodes in this show deserve analysis.
As much as I wish I could watch Bojack for the first time again, I find myself loving the show more and more with each rematch. It's so nice to notice something you didn't previously, and gain a new understanding of what's happening. Bojack is incredible.
i agree, after i rewatched it i noticed so many more things about it that i hadn't noticed the first 2 times i watched it. especially after watching the analyzing videos, it made me understand all the characters so much more.
The messages and themes throughout always hit harder after a couple watches, I will always love the small details in this amazing show
"Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forward."
One aspect of this episode that I think got skipped over is the other runner. At the beginning of the episode he breezes by Bojack when he's struggling on the hill. At the end of the episode, he stops to encourage him. He tells Bojack something like "the hill doesn't get easier, but you get better at it." To me, this means that Bojack went through the Dunning-Kruger effect in regards to moving on. When he knows very little about moving on he's totally confident he can do it, right at the top of Mt. Stupid. As he learns more, he realizes how little he knew and how far there is to go, dropping into the real starting point In the Valley of Despair. And as time goes by he slowly works up towards expertise peaking in season 6 before... well. Everything irreversible caught up to him at once.
I was susprise it was skipped over, i wonder why.
Doesn't the other runner say his "it gets easier" thing at the end of the season?
@@captaindreadeye6264 Whoops, you're totally right. Come to think of it I think he runs by Bojack's place a few more times in the season.
In a flash back episode you see the runner has a wife and they jog together. But in all other episodes he's alone. Makes you wonder what battles he may be facing
"It gets easier.
But you have to do it every day, that's the hard part.
But it DOES get easier."
I'm reciting it from memory, but I'm certain that's the line.
one of the saddest (and most realistic) parts about this show is that no character ever really knows or understands how deeply terrible and alienating bojacks childhood was. through the series he’s mostly met with “yeah yeah you had a tough time growing up so did everybody” even from people who care about him. and maybe the saddest part of it is that it’s because he can’t ever open up enough to tell people about it. he wants to be known so badly but he’s terrified of letting others know him
Bojack was the best. Didn't know what to expect when it premiered but instantly fell in love with it.
The talking animals made me think it would end up being notning more than a family guy ripoff. I'm glad to admit I was wrong.
@@bobkerr2755 same that’s why I stayed away from it for so long. Looked like the millionth shitty adult cartoon. But my sister recommended and boy was I wrong
The only thing I love more than the show itself is your analysis of it
I don't know if its just me, but the thing that surprised me most about the Beatrice Phone Call was that she was still alive. I'd interpreted Bojack's vision of him kneeling by his parent's graves as a literal sign his parents were dead
This was intended as a reveal of sorts! Since we didn’t have any confirmation that she was alive prior to this episode
I think Bojack proved Beatrice wrong at the end. He had lost everything and everyone but still seemed happy or at least hopeful.
I love how you dispel the idea that it was Bojack’s ‘new attitude’ that was holding his performance back
And his talent stems from his mental illness
Johnny your Bojack videos are always just the greatest, no one reviews this series better than you do make no mistake about it!
And then you left the best line untapped. When he delivers the line, the director doesn't yell cut. She says, "let's move on" as if the best advice he needed was sitting right there on the new couch but Bojack can't let go.
Beatrice's mother got a lobotomy, but Beatrice herself acts similarly: Quite emotionless most the time and rather disillusioned.
She was punished for having emotions and saw what happened to her mother
I love, love, love, LOVE the endings you've done with certain Bojack videos lately, like this and Best Thing That Ever Happened, where you use the actual lines of the characters, from using them to answer a question, to actually pointing out actual things that happened in the show. I wanted you to know your effort to script the videos doesn't go unnoticed.
I like how Bojack as a kid wearing the sailor suit always reminds me of Donald Duck in his classic look
Yes kid BoJack is so cute 🤍
He was very adorable. I got so use to Donald's new look from the reboot that his classic look looks off.
I need to write a fanfic where little bojack is adopted by a good person and become a good person, because I still can't cope with how sad this character is, and I want him to be happy so BAD
I was thinking about the moment when he asks if Diane believes he's a good person. She is silent and then says that she thinks that it cannot be so easily determined. But I'm not Diane. And I'll tell you. Bojack can really be good.
You can remember a lot of bad things that he did. He filled all the boards with them himself and didn't even finish it to the end. But let's remember. All seasons, different people and animals live in his house every now and then, arrange parties, hold events and so on. He allows it. Yes, because Bojack is afraid to be left alone, but still.. Bojack saved the lives of several characters, sometimes risking his own. He helped Hollyhock find her mom. He supported Princess Caroline when she signed his name without his knowledge. Because of him, Hollywood assistants received better treatment, he provoked this strike. He gave good advice sometimes. And it was the last time he talked to his mom that he made her feel in a good place. And I always feel happy when I think about the fact that Bojack gave Mr. Peanutbutter his long-awaited crossover.
So it's not that hard to think of Bojack as a good person. He was always vulnerable. Hence fear, complexes, the desire to drown out pain, the desire to forget, selfishness and the desire to assert themselves, sometimes at the expense of others. But if he hadn't been so afraid of losing everything, if he hadn't felt so much pain, if someone had been with him from the very beginning, giving him unconditional love, maybe he would have coped. He wouldn't hurt a girl at school who was kind to him. I would have found the courage to stand up for a friend and could have found enough sympathy in myself to somehow make Sarah Lynn's life easier. Maybe it wouldn't have been like that, but who knows. I believe that Bojack is not destined to be bad. I believe that Bojack Horseman can really be a good person.
@@temin2776 thank you! Putted beautifully
@@leavemealone802 Thanks for response.
i want beatrice to be happy as well.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who still holding on tight to BoJack. It's my second time rewatch and I'm having as much as entertained as I did the first time, but with deeper look. The first time I only wanna see the joke and afraid of getting too deep at the dark side, but now I'm all in. BoJack touched you in no way other show could.
This episode sticks with me more than almost any other because it proves the complexity of the writing. I think this is best exampled in Beatrice. She seems to hate Bojack's guts, but she keeps showing up for him and reads his book of her own volition and keeps reaching out after she's read it. I think she's genuinely trying her best to apologize, but it comes out in such a way that it deeply wounds Bojack. The "birthright" comment strikes me as her admitting to the generational trauma she inflicted onto him. Yet, she refuses to offer real support in his attempt to grow past it (bad as it is, New Couch was Bojack trying to change). It's such an interesting dichotomy that we end up seeing in all the characters throughout the show. This is why the show overall ends up being so much fun to analyze and pick apart.
None of this is to say season one wasn't fun and fascinating, but I don't think any whole episode in it is as perfect an example of why Bojack Horseman's such a good show as Brand New Couch. This is where the writing became so tight and hinted at how many layers we'd have to sort through.
The birthright is depression
I'm really glad you reviewed this episode. That scene with his mother telling him he was garbage because he came from garbage was one of the most horrible things I've seen on a show. That poor kid
I've been rewatching the show, and I just finished up this season. I had never noticed all the times he asks, "what are you doing here?" until this rewatch, but I was really struck by one time when he asked, "what am I doing here?"
I wanted to know what you thought about it, cuz I didn't remember you ever talking about it, so I was very excited when you released this!
Wonderful episode analysis as usual. Brand New Couch really is an underrated episode, I always found myself going back to that phone call and playing Beatrice's words on loop. It's telling that the one time we ever really hear Beatrice speak gently to her son, she's also delivering some of the harshest blows she may have ever dealt him. It's cruel, it's haunting, and it's another example of why Bojack's writing will be talked about for a long while. Keep at it!
Man, I love you episode breakdowns of Bojack. I hope you do one of It’s You. I’d love for you to examine Todd’s speech to Bojack and how everything they went through together built up to it.
For some reason, the line from this episode I keep thinking about the most is: "Don't sit so close to the tv. It'll make you cruel." There's a lot of layers to that line that I'm not sure the show ever fully unravelled.
Ngl I really want to find out what the deeper meaning behind that is because I'm a dumbass and I have NO idea what that's supposed to mean lmao 💀
Honestly Johnny your break downs are amazing especially for a show like Bojack Horseman. There's so much to unpack from that show. They did so much I can't wait to see your next Bojack breakdown.
I never thought I would love this show so much. One of my most rewatched shows.
I loved this episode, I found it low-key relatable. When I started highschool I wanted to feel better about myself, and less suicidal, so I started listening to self help books, working out, trying to get better like that. It didn’t work. I had to spend a few weeks feeling bad to accept it’s ok I felt that way but I can feel better
My favourite thing about Bojack playing Secretariat is that he doesn't need to play a vastly different character. He just needs to be himself. The audition he has at the end of season 1 could easily be mistaken for Bojack being Bojack. The scene in The Shot where he can't cry but Kelsey is able to see how naturally broken he is that they instantly get the perfect shot without him needing to cry. And here, all it takes is a short conversation with his mother to reassert who he is and he gets the take in one.
I’ve been watching your king of the hill videos and I barely got into Bojack a few days ago ad I’m one season 6 already. It was one of your videos that actually got me into it. Keep up the good work 🙏
So glad you're into it! Maybe finish the show before venturing into my breakdowns bc I do spoil things lol
2022 and I'm still sad this show ended... Just finished watching it again...
It's incredible that you continue to have so many insightful thoughts about this show, I always love your content but your Bojack content is what brought me here initially, and I always love to see more
I got a Reese’s ad in the middle of this video, definitely felt like Bojack was interrupting an analysis of himself to sell me some candy
Do you think that this phone call with Beatrice was the thing that Bojack thought about when they got the shot in the Nixon library? The speech that Kelsey delivers about Bojack realising that there's something broken inside him that can never be fixed always brings me back to the themes in this episode, especially how Beatrice tells him that there's no cure for being Bojack Horseman - he was born broken and believes that he can't be fixed, which is false. He does fix himself in S6, but for years before that he believes that he can't be fixed because of this mentality of generational trauma and being permanently broken that Beatrice drilled into his head from childhood. And that's one of the things that cuts Bojack the deepest, as it's reflecting on that notion that allows him to cry on screen for the only time in the entire run of the show (from what I can remember).
I really miss this show! I wish they would put it back up again. so many unanswered questions! Like, PCs father and his death. Todd's mother, I want to see exactly how Peanut Butter life was like growing up! so much! Such a great show.
i recently rewatched bojack because of your videos, this show has permanently affected me so much and i love it
oh ty Johnny!
never got why this episode went so under the radar when for me it was a "before and after" experience. truly, was the first time that TV made me go "Oh, they are going to tell my story, which means i'm not alone" it was all very trippy
the "what are you doing here" delivery is clearly an inflection he would had used in a sitcom like "Horsin Around"
and he mentioned to PC while doing Philbert that he was afraid of playing a sad and conflicted character because he didnt wanted himself to be that way..
anyways, kudos as always!
That was a STRONG ass closer. Bravo!! 👏✨
Oh yeah, Bojack content! We needed this. Hope we can get a lot more of it.
i miss watching bojack it will never be the same as the 1st time i watch
definitely! i wish i could erase it from my memory just so i can watch it for the first time again
@@JuiciferPandoraRex i rewatched it 3 times alredy, i'm so attached to this show. Wish we could get more of this
His conversation with his mom at the end is hauntingly dispiriting, as she essentially tells him to give up any hope of ever being happy.
Would love to see a video essay on “hank after dark” or “let’s find out.” Season 2 honestly birthed some of the most overlooked episodes as well as episodes that would shape the rest of the series. The season 2 premiere was an episode that didn’t particularly stick out to me and after watching this, I look at the premiere differently.
Dealing with trauma is a difficult and arduous process. I'm glad Bojack realized that ws what he truly needed to do. As a not-well adjusted person myself, I'm also unpacking my shit to be in a better place.
Your videos on bojack horseman is what got me to watch the show
So glad you are back with analysing Bojack episodes
“You’re Bojack Horseman, there’s no cure for that”
And who made him Bojack Horseman Beatrice?
this episode kills me every time, the way he is unable to deliver the line is comical to so many but it's so telling of an underlying personality disorder and his mother's phone call is chilling.
It’s interesting that his idol Secretariat advises Bojack to keep looking forward and that “All that exists is whats ahead”.
It’s actually poor advice that suggests he is running from something in his past and present.
Peace is found in the present. All that exists is now. Although It’s not good to dwell in the past, Its equally unhealthy to worry about the future.
In Secretariats descent from the bridge, he finds a moment of peace in the present moment.
I’d love to see a breakdown of A Horse Walks Into a Rehab
The thing secretariat should have mentioned about the past is that the traumas and hangups are like weights. To process them is to untie those weights and free yourself to move faster and better.
The way Bojack’s mother is able to still beat him down like that, at the end on the phone. It just reminds me of how my father is still able to do that to me. I relate to Bojack very much, but I broke the cycle thanks with the help of my mother who also had a horrible parent.
Please continue to create your Bojack horseman episode videos. This is such an under appreciated show and it's great to unpack all these episodes in the details that you do. Continue your work ❤️
You make such great Bojack videos. Please continue!
This was one of the first Bojack episodes I related to so much that I laughed lol
Knowing that the creators intended Bojack sitting so close to the tv to mean that he was internalizing the advice to never look back and keep running, the same advice that leads to a lot of his issues later on, makes Beatrice’s line right after much more interesting “don’t sit so close to the television, it will make you cruel”
In the end she was right, it did make him cruel later in life
I never noticed the icon that comes up on Bojacks phone when Beatrice calls is a lit cigarette
This is one of my favorite episodes. Looking back can be so painful while looking forward is like looking at an empty canvas but there’ll be nothing on it, if I don’t look back and understand what happened. This revelation through the series has really started my healing journey
OMG FINALLY!!!!! I always love your BoJack analysis videos💕
I feel like nobody talks about this episode!! I love it so much, ty for covering it
Bojack Ironically wanted to be famous, then in season 1 he said he doesn't want to be known as the horse from horsing around, to being bought out of the series, erased because of the controversy and in the future he'll be forgotten in later generations so he got what he wanted
This was the episode that got me hooked on the show.
The final match cut from the "there's no cure fo that" scene to the "what are you doing here" scene is an imense gut punch.
When i was dealing with an depression and a parent wilt alcohol issues i really got to learn alot from bojack horseman, the hart hitting words and advices did help me deal with my own past, learn to forgive it and try to do something so i can feel whole again. now rewatching the show after al that years down the line i see that it is possible to make amends with yourself and your issues and learn to move on with them.
if you reading this in a dark time you can remember that you can learn to love and accept yourself again. it took me 5 years and still counting. but now i genuine feel happy were i am and were i can go
I think the most damning thing she said in conversation was “you were born broken, that’s your birthright…”.
Bojack should have completely cut Beatrice out of his life once he hit 18 he would have been better off but with the time he was raised in you’re supposed to love your family no matter how horrible they were to you and just ignore the bad things this is why Bojack is never able to face this trauma and properly deal with it.
Maybe don’t cut people off because someone else tells you you should?
You have to decide for yourself if they really hurt you in such a bad and consistent way to go no-contact.
@@SupHapCak Too many people keep toxic people in their lives because they're family or you're supposed to forgive and forget it damages the person and often causes them to act in unhealthy ways like Bojack does.
This episode made me go to therapy, because it was watching this episode where I realized that I did not have a good relationship with my mother, and that I have hung onto some of the most toxic things she said and did to me- and it’s making me kind of a bad person to other people too.
You cant escape yourself is universally true. Hating who you are is the worst feeling ever.
I don’t normally like videos but that closing “what are you doing here” hit DIFFERENT!!! Thanks for that
Great video, Johnny!
I'm aware that this might be a bit of an uncomfortable subject matter but I'd love to see your analysis of 'Hank After Dark'.
A hard episode to get through but, in my opinion, it is one of the most important in the show.
Please don’t ever stop covering this show plzzzz!!!
Honestly, I'd be happy to watch any video you do on BoJack as it's not only a phenomenal show but I appreciate your insightful commentary. If I were to ask you to consider a specific episode that you haven't done I think episodes with unique social commentary like "Thoughts & Prayers" would be amazing to break down (the idea that the US disliking women more than loving guns idea has so many layers in itself). Those episodes in particular also reward the audience for paying attention to the background details and the story. Similarly "Hank After Dark" came out before the #metoo movement so that's another specific example. Regardless, thank you for making these videos!
"...saddling her to butterscotch." now THATS wordplay!
i feel like this series should be on netflix. you do a great job of breaking down the episode and helping the audience think through and connect certain ideas
I wonder if the writers for this episode actually know of the scam called the Self-Help market to make Bojack's superficiality linked to such. A lot of the self help products and services available are at best superficial...
A horse that can't run. Pretty good literal metaphor for Bojack in this episode thought of him being broken inside and whatnot
Just finished the show and i didnt know bojack horseman was so critically aclaimed. I liked it and im really happy its still getting videos on it
I really like the flashing frames of Diane & Mr. Peanutbutter here. Brilliant video.
lol glad you like my mistakes
@@Johnny2Cellos Wait they were mistakes? What the video is about fits Mr. Peanutbutter (and Diane but to a lesser extent) really well.
I really was too emotionally unstable for this 💀💀💀
Can you please talk about Tuca and Bertie more? I really like your takes on it, I’d love to see more
Please never stop analysing this show I can listen forever
Currently re-watching Bojack Horseman and just saw this episode.
Pain.
i know beatrice's backhanded way of apologizing is still being completely abuse, but there isn't much i wouldn't give to have that acknowledgement of all the shit he did to me from my own father, to be honest.
I think this is the earliest I've been to one of your BoJack Breakdowns. Speaking of, I noticed this episode and Mr. Peanutbutter's Boo's aren't on the playlist for them. I also noticed your video analyzing the intro sequence isn't on the Breakdown Playlist or the BoJack Horseman Playlist.
6:42 Saw that Diane clip from Mr. Peanutbutter's Boos.
9:54 Mr. Peanutbutter and Pickles clip from Mr. Peanutbutter's Boos.
10:04 Princess Carolyn clip from Brand New Couch.
As usual, I have requests for Downer Ending and The Amelia Earhart Story. See you next time!
PC clip is actually from this episode, just a flash frame
thank u for continuing to do bojack video essays! it's one of my hyperfixations and i rewatch these all the time !
Something I've noticed through all the roles we see BoJack he never actually learned how to tap into feelings and history and ACT without it being his ENTIRE IDENTITY we saw what it did to him during Horsin Around, the Brief run of the BJH Show he Tried to do it on secretariat but while he was doing the self help all he could portray was the same surface level positivity. And as we saw on Philbert it took every single one of his worse traits and made it so much worse
I really don't think he ever learned to do as Princess Carolyn advised him in S5 and know when to "take off through costume and be Bojack"
I noticed this too and it reminds me of all the stories we hear out of Hollywood about "method actors" being insufferable assholes to everyone they work with on productions.
I will never get tired of these bojack breakdowns you do! Keep em comin' Johnny!
"Saddling her to Butterscotch". I see you...
I love your BoJack videos, could listen to any episode being explained like this