Insurrectionists: "We have been freed from the dogmatic UNSC!" Covenant: "Oh, I wouldnt say freed, more like, under new management" Installation 04: "Are you sure about that?"
What if humanity’s first contact with the Covenant was done after Covenant ships chased a flood infected Ship to Harvest, in this timeline the Covenant are trying to stop the flood after it broke out and are so busy with that they can’t do the war of Annhilation against humanity in this timeline and they can’t really do a war of subjugation either so they seek to Ally with Humanity which proves to be extremely helpful as humanity is the reclaimers and thus it gives them hope that they can now stop the flood.
What if Unggoys allied with humanity? Possibly during the great schism, as a smart Grunt ( Like YapYap ) seeing this the perfect opponity to freeing themselves from shackles of Covenant and kick off the second Unggoy rebellion when Covenant is busy dealing its own civil war to focus on Grunts, in hopes that they will be treated better by humanity.
YapYap isn't a canon character and also this wouldn't happen by the time the Hunan-Covenant war happens all of the Grunts have been indoctrinated to the Covenant.
Fear not my friends, Captain Del Rio ain't invincible! remember his weakness! When he orders you to give him your potato chips !?! tell him ... NO SIR ...
The explanatory style? Like when I add scenes to show action and mood? 😃 And yeah I was thinking of making it longer. But I wrote this much and I stopped having fun. So I might as well write a good short one instead of a half assed long one 😊
I enjoyed the video and found it to be a realistic, if somewhat lucky scenario. Guilty Spark only firing a local pulse is the only saving grace for this timeline, as colonies/people far away enough from Halo were still spared, but I cant even begin to imagine the pandemonium both humanity and the covenant would be in a situation like this, where entire planets just...drop dead. At the very least, humanity wasn't set back to square one, just...square 3. As for the video itself, I agree that it was rather exposition heavy, but it does answer the question in a clear and concise manner and thats all that can be really asked for, though I would have rather had this be a two-part video, so we could elaborate and more character-driven events such as Preston Cole's begrudging surrender, Young John vs Rippa Moramee, etc. If it were real, I wish I could've been a fly on the wall listening to Preston Cole speak with the Prophets, or listen to Johnson try and convince the Elites not to fire the weapon, etc.
I feel the relationships between humanity and the jiralhanae wouldn't be as bad, with the latter having some moderate respect as canonically they love humanity's "violent" weapons like shotguns, rocket launchers, macs and nukes as for other details: -smart ai would be banned, or at least heavily restricted (would add up they'd experiment with other species's brains earlier to create ai like Iratus in canon) -some unsc ships would be retrofitted with tech to the point they would look similar to covenant ships -mjolnir would be far more advanced and different appearance wise, it would likely be similar to helioskrill class mjolnir, though I feel with covenant tech, the prophets would make sure to install some backdoors to make spartans compliant -with access to information about the spartan ii program, there would be more and better prelates though it would be a double-edged sword, as the remnants of the unsc having access to forerunner/covenant biotechnology, the spartan iiis would be far superior than in canon -oni would aid the insurrection by giving them information and technology
Thank you! Also I just noticed you wrote a comment 3 weeks ago on one of my videos with several “what ifs” and I’ll get to it soon. I just hadn’t seen it. Sorry.
The prophets didn't view the humans as some key left behind by the forerunners. They viewed them AS the forerunners, because that's what humans were--descendants of ancient humans--the forerunners. It's the entire reason they declared genocide on them, because if the rest of the covenant found out, it would render their entire religion void.
idea what if Ripa that arbiter from halo wars Started the rebellion instead of thel via him finding a dying spartan holding a baby and it having him snap at the display
Heaes a what if what if the spirit of fire went to zeta halo after mindacan bias gave them a forunner ftl drive or what if the unsa retribution went into the halo universe i have a lot of what ifs most of which involves romantic relationships with spartans
Just saying, in your timeline you can go back to Bungies story for Halo or make your own twist on it. Have everyone find out what the meaning reclaimer for humanity truly meant. Humanity is Forerunner, Humanity are the children of for Forerunners inheritors of all that they left behind. Before the rings were first fired the Forerunners had set both a activation control room to all the other rings and the Ark the main part of the giant facility sending biometric signals out around earth slowly influencing the evolutionary path of Earth to create Forerunners on Earth all located under what once was New Mombasa. side note: the idea of the Humans becoming Forerunners this was is similar to Crabs that evolve the be nearly the exact same despite being on opposite ends of the world and having no connection to one another. They in practice and in essence are the same, but made in different ways. My small inclusion to the story if interested: After so long of Earth being excavated the great facility had been recently found, but only a select few knew and ONI would insure it stays this way. All Effort was made to cover up this finding. As ONI sent in specialized teams both to divert attention and to gain access to the facility. This time they would be careful as they know something had happened at the Ring, not knowing what had happened they didn't want to repeat what some started to call the cleansing. Just as teams would make the effort to translate everything precisely deep space messages would start flooding networks as if they had all been sent around the exact same time. The schism and the firing of the halo left everyone weak, but just as fast as people found out something wrong had happened at the Ring, messages also began to pour in. Most were from humans about the events that had happened, the Flood, the Schism, even some of the events around the control room, one of those very messages was a video showing the battle in space, the one recording saying his goodbyes to his loved ones in case he too dies. Moments later the video pans over to the Ring as it began to light up and as a blast of light went out the recording device dropped to the ground. The video goes on for hours perhaps days, but a faint blue light shown on the metallic walls and floor can be seen, before one could hear "oh, another recorder, they do enjoy documenting everything they can. A shame my makers children and so many others were lied to by such a degree, and in their last moments tied to send so many messages out to others." The device gets wrapped in energy as it pans over to Guilty Spark. "Like the others I shall insure this too is sent out, perhaps someone will indeed see them. Perhaps not." The video ends as a Sangheili Shipmaster and his lieutenants sit in silence after watching the video. The Shipmasters eyes fixed on the Forerunner AI before it was broken by one of the lieutenants "What does it mean by "lied to by such a degree" what tricks are this." A human steps forward the Shipmaster looking to them almost expecting them to know something "It's just my thoughts, but the schism may have something to do with this. The timing of the Prophets proclaiming the Sangheili betra..." the human cut off by a lieutenant igniting his energy sword saying "Not another word filth, do not paint those lies to our ears! We will not have it!" the statement agreed by most of the lieutenants before the Shipmaster stopped him "No. Let him speak." The human after waiting for the lieutenant to disengage his energy sword continues. "I believe we have been told half and part truths, that we do not have all the information the Prophets have. I will show that my kind can be better starting here and now, we have never truly put our faith in the "Journey" and we have been working to one day fight and be free from the Covenant. But from what we have learned from Forerunner messages and documents there is of great importance revolving around the Rings and the Flood. And it all starts with getting to that Ring and finding that AI." A lieutenant speaks "You speak out of place human, you do not command us." Rtas 'Vadum then speaks "As Shipmaster I here by order our ships to the Rings coordinates, it will take us some time, but I too believe what the humans says to be true. Something has been clouding us for too long now and with the Brutes being placed on such a high degree I fear something far more sinister is taking place. With so much that could burn around us we must stand and put the flames to rest. Our fight is to the Ring, with the Brutes and those who follow their blinded ways." Rtas, walks over to the human "And we will find what secrets have been kept from us."
I think a part two that is about a ONI subplot to cause a civil war in the covenant that uses the spartan 3’s the cripple all the member species of the covenant save the Unsc plus them building several infinity class ships in secret
IMO Humans would be most fitting as security force of the covenant. They would safe guard any forerunner devices or technology and escort high value targets while also maintaining order among the lower tier personnel. Spartans would be on the level of Honor guards for council members and high ranking researchers to protect them to do research on forerunner icons. ODST would obv be shock troopers to go behind enemy lines with elite spec ops to find and secure relics. Marines/Army troops would be stationary guards for forerunner research facility with grunts being their subordinates as errand boys and drones being assistants in a way when comes to engineering. Human fleets would be useful as patrol and escort fleet than direct combative type due to their priorities to escort and secure relics they hold. Humans Modify MAC-cannons would be stationary defense for high charity or Research stations. Having the citadel most defensive area in the galaxy. Elites and Humans would be paired the most when comes to recon and heavy assault mission meanwhile Jackals/skirmishers/humans would be efficient in scouting missions. Brutes and Hunters will be the most paired when comes to the Vanguard sieging causing damage when needed. Bounding between Elites and Humans would be peanut butter and jelly due to most have close tides and relatable values in war.
Insurrectionists: "We have been freed from the dogmatic UNSC!"
Covenant: "Oh, I wouldnt say freed, more like, under new management"
Installation 04: "Are you sure about that?"
What if humanity’s first contact with the Covenant was done after Covenant ships chased a flood infected Ship to Harvest, in this timeline the Covenant are trying to stop the flood after it broke out and are so busy with that they can’t do the war of Annhilation against humanity in this timeline and they can’t really do a war of subjugation either so they seek to Ally with Humanity which proves to be extremely helpful as humanity is the reclaimers and thus it gives them hope that they can now stop the flood.
Part 2 please and thank you ❤
That’s 1 vote. Let’s get this comment higher peopleeee
@@IvanicohGyeee!!!
What if Unggoys allied with humanity? Possibly during the great schism, as a smart Grunt ( Like YapYap ) seeing this the perfect opponity to freeing themselves from shackles of Covenant and kick off the second Unggoy rebellion when Covenant is busy dealing its own civil war to focus on Grunts, in hopes that they will be treated better by humanity.
This wouldnt make sense kid...hush
YapYap isn't a canon character and also this wouldn't happen by the time the Hunan-Covenant war happens all of the Grunts have been indoctrinated to the Covenant.
No matter what timeline Johnson is in he’ll always go out “with a bang”
They discovered, Captain del rio🤣🤣🤣 seems about right
I thought a few people might get a chuckle lol
@@IvanicohGwe did 😂
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GIve, me, that, chip
@@socialaccount0000 ... NO SIR ... (I'll take a potato chip ... AND EAT IT !?!)
16:24 best thing in all of halo lore right here
lol not the jump scare. 🤫Del Rio
Here's an idea: What if the Covenant glassed Earth and forces humanity to live in the Infinity?
This one felt better, I wish it was maybe 30-40 minutes long but still the video was really good. And I think this more explanatory style is better
The explanatory style? Like when I add scenes to show action and mood? 😃
And yeah I was thinking of making it longer. But I wrote this much and I stopped having fun. So I might as well write a good short one instead of a half assed long one 😊
Very well made 👍🏻 I would like a part 2
Yessss! Part 2!!!
What if the prophets read the message correctly as reclaimer and not reclimation? or what if they wernt able to stop the dreadnaught?
I feel like the great schism would have happened with elites and humans against the brutes and the rest of the covenants split down the middle
I would 100% like to see a part 2
Wohoo! It seems a few people want a part 2 😀 but thank you for watching.
Aint no way man timed that ad break for when an actual ad popped up 💀
It’s how I break stories up 🤣
I enjoyed the video and found it to be a realistic, if somewhat lucky scenario. Guilty Spark only firing a local pulse is the only saving grace for this timeline, as colonies/people far away enough from Halo were still spared, but I cant even begin to imagine the pandemonium both humanity and the covenant would be in a situation like this, where entire planets just...drop dead.
At the very least, humanity wasn't set back to square one, just...square 3.
As for the video itself, I agree that it was rather exposition heavy, but it does answer the question in a clear and concise manner and thats all that can be really asked for, though I would have rather had this be a two-part video, so we could elaborate and more character-driven events such as Preston Cole's begrudging surrender, Young John vs Rippa Moramee, etc. If it were real, I wish I could've been a fly on the wall listening to Preston Cole speak with the Prophets, or listen to Johnson try and convince the Elites not to fire the weapon, etc.
so happy to find a halo what if channel 😁
I feel the relationships between humanity and the jiralhanae wouldn't be as bad, with the latter having some moderate respect as canonically they love humanity's "violent" weapons like shotguns, rocket launchers, macs and nukes
as for other details:
-smart ai would be banned, or at least heavily restricted (would add up they'd experiment with other species's brains earlier to create ai like Iratus in canon)
-some unsc ships would be retrofitted with tech to the point they would look similar to covenant ships
-mjolnir would be far more advanced and different appearance wise, it would likely be similar to helioskrill class mjolnir, though I feel with covenant tech, the prophets would make sure to install some backdoors to make spartans compliant
-with access to information about the spartan ii program, there would be more and better prelates though it would be a double-edged sword, as the remnants of the unsc having access to forerunner/covenant biotechnology, the spartan iiis would be far superior than in canon
-oni would aid the insurrection by giving them information and technology
Awesome video, loved how things went in the certain areas
Another outstanding story Ivan :)
Thank you! Also I just noticed you wrote a comment 3 weeks ago on one of my videos with several “what ifs” and I’ll get to it soon. I just hadn’t seen it. Sorry.
Thank you so much for doing this what if, when I heard what the idea was I was very hype and it made my day!!! ❤️
This is sick! I love everything about it! I want more info on missions now! Subbed
What if video idea: What if Fal Chavamee (Halo Legends Arbiter) survived 'The Duel'
this was awesome
Thank you! What was your favorite part of the story?
22:26 *HAPPY JUL MDAMA NOISE*
I’m a bit confused but I thank you for the watch and comment. 😃
@@IvanicohG covenant splinter groups take un maned ships all the time
Oh yea, it’s kind of what I was alluding to. The covenant may be “gone” but they aren’t really GONE. But I can’t believe I didn’t get it.
Yes, my brothers 🙌 rejoice in another glorious video 📹 😊
Thank you! Did you like the story?
@IvanicohG Yes ShipMaster!!!!!
May there be a part 2 and many more theory videos;D
Fantastic video!
The prophets didn't view the humans as some key left behind by the forerunners. They viewed them AS the forerunners, because that's what humans were--descendants of ancient humans--the forerunners. It's the entire reason they declared genocide on them, because if the rest of the covenant found out, it would render their entire religion void.
What if noble six escaped reach ?
I have made a lot of scenarios where he lives. So maybe one day when I write the reaper timeline.
He'd be the one to go after Cheif instead of Locke
Late but i support a part 2 aswell
more of this one please
Of this timeline or this style?
How about this for a what if: What if the Arbiter was infected by the Flood during the events of Halo 2?
I hope you do a video about if the great journey was correct.
You can do a part 2? No you will make a part 2 we need more.
Part 2 please😊
Do a what if the grunts or say half the grunts joined humanity
Part 2 please
idea what if Ripa that arbiter from halo wars Started the rebellion instead of thel via him finding a dying spartan holding a baby and it having him snap at the display
That’s a little TOO specific. Perhaps. What if tips started the great schism
@@IvanicohG omfg lol how about having him start the great schism during halo wars instead
Very very good stuff
Heaes a what if what if the spirit of fire went to zeta halo after mindacan bias gave them a forunner ftl drive or what if the unsa retribution went into the halo universe i have a lot of what ifs most of which involves romantic relationships with spartans
Damn I’m 30mins late
But you’re always early in my heart
I loved it!
Thank you! I hope you agreed with how it’d go n
Just saying, in your timeline you can go back to Bungies story for Halo or make your own twist on it.
Have everyone find out what the meaning reclaimer for humanity truly meant. Humanity is Forerunner, Humanity are the children of for Forerunners inheritors of all that they left behind. Before the rings were first fired the Forerunners had set both a activation control room to all the other rings and the Ark the main part of the giant facility sending biometric signals out around earth slowly influencing the evolutionary path of Earth to create Forerunners on Earth all located under what once was New Mombasa.
side note: the idea of the Humans becoming Forerunners this was is similar to Crabs that evolve the be nearly the exact same despite being on opposite ends of the world and having no connection to one another. They in practice and in essence are the same, but made in different ways.
My small inclusion to the story if interested:
After so long of Earth being excavated the great facility had been recently found, but only a select few knew and ONI would insure it stays this way. All Effort was made to cover up this finding. As ONI sent in specialized teams both to divert attention and to gain access to the facility. This time they would be careful as they know something had happened at the Ring, not knowing what had happened they didn't want to repeat what some started to call the cleansing. Just as teams would make the effort to translate everything precisely deep space messages would start flooding networks as if they had all been sent around the exact same time.
The schism and the firing of the halo left everyone weak, but just as fast as people found out something wrong had happened at the Ring, messages also began to pour in. Most were from humans about the events that had happened, the Flood, the Schism, even some of the events around the control room, one of those very messages was a video showing the battle in space, the one recording saying his goodbyes to his loved ones in case he too dies. Moments later the video pans over to the Ring as it began to light up and as a blast of light went out the recording device dropped to the ground. The video goes on for hours perhaps days, but a faint blue light shown on the metallic walls and floor can be seen, before one could hear "oh, another recorder, they do enjoy documenting everything they can. A shame my makers children and so many others were lied to by such a degree, and in their last moments tied to send so many messages out to others." The device gets wrapped in energy as it pans over to Guilty Spark. "Like the others I shall insure this too is sent out, perhaps someone will indeed see them. Perhaps not."
The video ends as a Sangheili Shipmaster and his lieutenants sit in silence after watching the video. The Shipmasters eyes fixed on the Forerunner AI before it was broken by one of the lieutenants "What does it mean by "lied to by such a degree" what tricks are this." A human steps forward the Shipmaster looking to them almost expecting them to know something "It's just my thoughts, but the schism may have something to do with this. The timing of the Prophets proclaiming the Sangheili betra..." the human cut off by a lieutenant igniting his energy sword saying "Not another word filth, do not paint those lies to our ears! We will not have it!" the statement agreed by most of the lieutenants before the Shipmaster stopped him "No. Let him speak." The human after waiting for the lieutenant to disengage his energy sword continues. "I believe we have been told half and part truths, that we do not have all the information the Prophets have. I will show that my kind can be better starting here and now, we have never truly put our faith in the "Journey" and we have been working to one day fight and be free from the Covenant. But from what we have learned from Forerunner messages and documents there is of great importance revolving around the Rings and the Flood. And it all starts with getting to that Ring and finding that AI." A lieutenant speaks "You speak out of place human, you do not command us." Rtas 'Vadum then speaks "As Shipmaster I here by order our ships to the Rings coordinates, it will take us some time, but I too believe what the humans says to be true. Something has been clouding us for too long now and with the Brutes being placed on such a high degree I fear something far more sinister is taking place. With so much that could burn around us we must stand and put the flames to rest. Our fight is to the Ring, with the Brutes and those who follow their blinded ways." Rtas, walks over to the human "And we will find what secrets have been kept from us."
Algorithm ⛽⛽⛽⛽
Let’s feed the algorithm!!!
@@IvanicohG feed the beast XD
What if you did this video but the Covenant discovers Humanity in the modern day. Giving 500 years of Humans in the Covenant
Fourth lol, but hey man, great to see another what if ❤
It’s been a long time 🤔😅
Thank you!
This is the prophet of truths nitemare
I mean. Technically they fire the halo 🫣so his great journey 🤷🏻♂️
sraw olah?
lol just to not get flagged by TH-cam.
Third🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
But first in my heart, don’t mind that I said that to more people 👀😂
I think a part two that is about a ONI subplot to cause a civil war in the covenant that uses the spartan 3’s the cripple all the member species of the covenant save the Unsc plus them building several infinity class ships in secret
@@IvanicohGLAIR
Second
But first in my heart 😂
IMO
Humans would be most fitting as security force of the covenant. They would safe guard any forerunner devices or technology and escort high value targets while also maintaining order among the lower tier personnel.
Spartans would be on the level of Honor guards for council members and high ranking researchers to protect them to do research on forerunner icons.
ODST would obv be shock troopers to go behind enemy lines with elite spec ops to find and secure relics.
Marines/Army troops would be stationary guards for forerunner research facility with grunts being their subordinates as errand boys and drones being assistants in a way when comes to engineering.
Human fleets would be useful as patrol and escort fleet than direct combative type due to their priorities to escort and secure relics they hold.
Humans Modify MAC-cannons would be stationary defense for high charity or Research stations. Having the citadel most defensive area in the galaxy.
Elites and Humans would be paired the most when comes to recon and heavy assault mission meanwhile Jackals/skirmishers/humans would be efficient in scouting missions. Brutes and Hunters will be the most paired when comes to the Vanguard sieging causing damage when needed.
Bounding between Elites and Humans would be peanut butter and jelly due to most have close tides and relatable values in war.