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Was Neji Right? Neji Deserved Better (Naruto)
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Was Neji right? Looking at destiny in Naruto and Neji's fate.
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Neji Hyūga
"In the end... death claims us all." *- Sylvanas Windrunner*
In a way yes he was
Tldr: in some ways neji was right, in others no.
I want to make this clear. I get where neji is coming from. I get he's angry and can't really do anything about it and I know firsthand how that can tear someone apart.
neji is right that some people are born with a favorable hand, the main branch of his clan, the Uchiha, senju, etc all have immense power.
But Sakura, who has no special genes whatsoever, is one of the greatest medical ninja of all time. naruto, the loser kid who struggled with the most basic jutsu, is now the hokage. And Lee, who worked around his handicap of no ninjutsu or genjutsu. These characters are proof that talent, good genes, aren't the end all be all.
Destiny is not top dog.
You are.
When Neji fought kidomaru i cried as a child when it was unclear if he died or not after the fight. When he actually died in shippuden, adult me cried again. I love Neji and he definitely deserved more. Thank you for this video.
They had to kill him cuz ultimately the entire show was about destiny..... that's ruined Naruto for me. Wasn't Narutos hard work after all it was the fact he's an incarnation. Wack
@@mr.j410 But you're forgetting that Naruto defied his own destiny at the end, by saving Sasuke and not giving up on him, he broke the cycle of reincarnation and the cycle of hatred place upon the Uchiha.
@@OblivionKnight76 naruto destiny was to broke the cycle .
So Sebastian was the only one who watched the whole video?😭
@@mr.j410 you hate Naruto just because of that alone??Wack
The whole curse seal is really wrong. Goes to show that the Leaf village had a lot of injustice going on. From genocide, to foreign conspiracies, to magical leashes and discrimination.
despite the leaf being the main protagonist home they weren't angles by all means even they had corruption in their village tsunade herself even admitted as much to pain when he said that the leaf were part of the problem with the system and she said more or less that yea they are part of the problem but they also were victims as well
Lets not forget exploiding raiding and propably even raping in Amegakure.
The reason Nagato became who he was and came for vengence not just Naruto.
Is it wrong? Look what happens when there isn't a tool or way to control a bunch of bloodthirsty people, aka Uchiha. Hell, even Itachi thought of a way of control, via Shisui genjutsu. I bet he would had liked this way applied to Uchiha as well, instead of putting them down like rabid dogs.
The ninja were tools like zabuza and haku were saying.
@@umegaalfa5900 did you miss the part where konoha oppressed, discriminated, and segregated the uchiha which was the reason for the coup in the first place. did you miss the part where konoha isolated a little boy, the MAIN character, which resulted in childhood neglect that we know gave him issues, encouraged slavery, and sent children off to war?
the world of naruto is about how normalizing these acts is WRONG. it is so obvious how terribly it affects characters. do you think any of the villains would be the way they are if they didn't come from a world that normalized such atrocities?
I mean. Honestly.
Neji's reasoning is accurate to the world as we know it. The only people in the 1% have always been in the 1% generations down the line.
We live in a world where truely talented people are not chosen over those already in positions of power.
It's a naruto twist on the ventures of the world we live in.
I love Neji's story because its my own, its the story of so many low class born children.
No matter how talented, how successful, how much you try, the odds are immeasurably stacked against you.
Even now, as someone who owns my own business, who clawed my way up, I'd never reach the heights of someone already born on the top of society.
Wonderfully said 👏🏽👏🏽
Very true but if we continue to live by that mindset nothing will change. I came from a lower income background as well, homeless as a child and grew up in an abusive foster home. And I just got accepted into a doctorate program. And it wasn’t easy, I failed many times, and often had my own bosses and peers tell me I wouldn’t amount to nothing. And that really affected me as someone who didn’t have support, no parents or a support group of any kind. But as cliche as it sounds I really did believe in myself, I wanted people to underestimate so I could rub it in their fucking faces when I succeeded. And when I got accepted into my doctorate program those same people who doubted me congratulated me and wanted to be my friend. All I’m saying is don’t let this awful world beat you down into submission keep fighting ❤. Cause If a poor, loser with no parents who grew up in poverty can do it, anyone can trust me 😂
Thats why Neji had to die😟
He knew to much
They literally threw mud on this guy's character as much as they could, 1 The clan say he was literally a taijutsu master stronger than almost anyone in his clan from the start what did this earn him personal training sessions from the kage especially being from a name in the village is that what they did no what they did was use him as a training dummy for rock Lee he had no business being on guys squad who's training would more likely on taijutsu which according to the clan he was already one of the greatest users they had, the jealousy of Hinatas father in so apparent probably because head of the family viewed him as low class and uses his influence to sabatoge his training, now shikimaru showed that you didn't need to win the tournament to be granted rank of jonin so why didn't neji get rank of jonin again you could say that Hinatas father didn't want him to look good because it would make him feel inadequate so he had to wait to get rank of jonin till probably after he reached an age that the hyuga clan took to make jonin
Why didn't neji have a chance to learn more advance jutsu most likely because he was forced to play body guard to the main family instead of doing training to further himself as a ninja limiting his progress why, probably because they didn't want one of their slaves to get so powerful they would question their cast system
"Neji Deserved Better" Sadly, you could say the same about many characters in Naruto.
All of them got what they deserved, side characters belong in the side.
@@kyleward7417 I agree
Even Sakura deserved better. She was written so horribly despite being one of the main characters
@@Bob-wr4vg Sakura deserved to die.
No they didn’t it wasn’t their story
Do you want to know what's the most depressing part? According to Masashi Kishimoto (the creator of Naruto himself), the reason why he killed off Neji is to bring Naruto and Hinata closer. I didn't make things up, he literally admits that Neji dies as a cupid for NaruHina during his interview before the release of The Last movie.
I know, and it's sad how Kishimoto killed off such an interesting character for the sake of a ship that wasn't even well written. And even called Neji a "cupid" unbelievable. He had so much potential. I honestly can't imagine Neji fans to be satisfied with the ending.
@@kawaiipineapple4311 Neji arc was finished there was nothing left for him why are anime fans so stupid
You literally just made that up. I don’t understand what you gain from lying about what Kishimoto said. He never said that.
@@jordandavis2116 Do you by chance know what he really said?
Nah your making it up for sure 😂
Naruto was destined for greatness. So when neji said “you can’t change your destiny.”
He wasn’t lying. He just thought Naruto was destined to be weak.
how and when was Naruto destined for greatness
@@GenesisSMH Naruto have ton of chakra and descendant of Uzumaki now compare ot to Kakashi who is descendant of nobody.
@@protocetus499 Naruto was unable to use his chakra to it's utmost because kurama(a being who he never consented to having inside of his body lol) was constantly messing with his chakra control. he had to work really hard (literally fight and befriend kurama who had nothing but hatred in his heart at the time) to even be able to use his own chakra to it's fullest. compare that to kakashi who got gifted a mangekyou sharingan with the most busted ability in the series.
@@GenesisSMH lmao Kamui can be nullified by Flying Raijin also Kakashi have low chakra, if Kakashi have the same amount of chakra as Naruto is he would be unbeateable. Also Kurama power are so convenient eh?
@@protocetus499 > who cares if it's nullified by flying raijin. only 2 characters in the series can even use that effectively. Kamui is still effectively a 1 shot kill move
> kakashi doesn't have low chakra. he spams Kamui several times in the war and never even starts to go blind.
> kurama tortured Naruto through the entire series. made him a complete outcast through his entire childhood, killed his parents, made him depressed and borderline suicidal at the age of like 12. mentally tortured him, and only would loan him any chakra at all so he could weaken the seal and be released from naruto (this would have killed Naruto anyways)
Naruto learning and mastering techniques like the rasengan, rasenshuriken, multi shadow clone etc were done only by his own hard work. no kurama outside help. Naruto is also forced to become stronger because of kurama. because having kurama inside him makes.him a target for the Akatsuki.
We should've gotten a story on how the Hyūga Clan came to be.
And their ancestor (forgot his name) who was able to fight beside the sage of six path with his own strength
I was just about to search for a video like that. But tbh I would like Sage to do a video on it.
You mean hamura
A separate story?? Because if you pay attention to actual plot then you will see how the clan came to be unless you just want the Hyuga clan story
Naruto the last and a filler arc during the final war show most of the main bits. Sage of six paths had a brother who was on the moon to protect the sealed away 10 tails. His kids were known as the moon clan. One of the branches of the moon clan left and came to earth and became the hyuga clan.
“He had nowhere else to go.” That was powerful.
Well in a sense certain characters are the living embodiment of what Neji was talking about. Reality can be a cruel thing and fate is something that’s inescapable the longer you live. Neji was one of the best written characters in Naruto cuz he didn’t sugarcoat things to make anyone feel better. He lived a life of shackles and familial diplomacy. No matter what path he chose he was always gonna die trying to protect Hinata which he succeeded in doing.
But hinata and the byukugan were based on kaguya the rabbit and the fox Asian religious story that's well known...hinata and the byukugan were based on actual photos of females who saw the nukes go off during world war 2 and lost their pupils....its quite sad
@@razkable that last one is false, someone made that up for attention. Be careful with the things you believe online.
Nope, naruto was still right about what he said to neji
@@dream6562 what specifically are you referring to? Elaborate
neji's death was not at all interesting or meaningful. he literally died to make naruhina happen, something kishimoto already said clearly. a character that is about forced submission to others dying for another character's development isn't the deep moment people think it is.
Someone said something simple about Neji's death, and it's everything there is to say. "A slave's freedom isn't dying for his master on but to not be a slave anymore."
Neji had the worst luck in this series, being abandoned by the author for a momentary shock that ruined what his character stood for. He had every right to blame destiny if he really knew how he's going to die. Who am I kidding, he knew it all his life.
There was so much potential there for Neji or the Hyuga clan in general, but the author only cared about the Uchiha and the sharingan I guess.
@@elgoblino6356 what pontential there weren’t as important the uchicha you know the clan that was murdered
@@Axel-ye8tt grammar please
He died for Naruto
Did y’all click on the video to just ignore what he said and comment stupidity? Lmao Neji dying when he died to die for Hinata who was willing to die for Naruto out of his own free will just like his father once did for his brother quite literally shows you Kishi didn’t forget anything about him. He wanted to establish a roundabout way to instill the fact that one’s destiny is in their own hands. Neji’s conclusion does just that, Hinata’s dialogue with Naruto prevents Naruto from wavering and strengthens his stand against Obito, furthering their dynamic and its role in the series as well, which at that point is the most important part of the series. Neji dying when he did also happens to once again give viewers the understanding of how destiny works as it has been established since the chunin exams because it will be relevant in the final valley fight between Naruto and Sasuke. It doesn’t exist for shock factor as it contributes to 3 significant and different elements of the series. No shock factor death has ever had that level of writing behind it. Y’all are unfortunately illiterate.
I like the nuance in this video. It doesn't discount how fate shackled Neji while tearing down the misconception that it somehow makes Naruto a hypocrite. I wish Neji had gotten a more complete arc by Kishimoto. It's implied that things in the Hyuga clan got better but we don't really see it and Neji does die protecting Hinata even if it is of his own volition.
thank you! nuance is important!
In Boruto it shows the main clan of hyuga becoming more sentimental. Himawari and her grandfather are so wholesome. It's sad honestly. It reflects the real world. Sometimes people change, but in many cases people are bitter and angry and then years later they become more open and loving. Anyway hyuga clan did get better but it wasn't shown enough
@@SagesRain NARUTO IS A HYPOCRITE AND NEJI WAS RIGHT. NARUTO DIDN'T WORK HARDER THAN ANYONE. HE WAS A SLACKER WHO THEN LEARNED THE RASENGAN IN A FEW DAYS AND THE SHADOW CLONE JUTSU IN HOURS.. AND SASUKE WAS A MURDERER THAT WAS NEVER PUNISHED FOR HIS DEEDS, THAT'S CALLED FAVORITISM.
@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 naruto working hard isn't a theme in a story and even then he still did, he worked hard for everything hes done, naruto never slacked off once
Sasuke also spent multiple months in PRISON and when he was released he went a journey to atone for all of his sins as an outcast
@@tokyo._dreams the hypocrisy is in the idealogy Naruto believes in.. not everything is about story theme..
Neji asked if those that didn't become hokeage just didn't work enough and it clearly antagonizes naruto meaning Naruto has such a stance on hard work
But yet still Naruto is pretty muched given an almost guaranteed path the hokeage throne with all this crazy associations.. being the son of a hokage.. defeated neji with a fox that was destined to be in him and I can go on
Hiashi (Hinata's Father) taking the hit instead of Neji would've make much more sense.
That way, NaruHina ship will still sail and Neji would live and get a small/big arc for his character.
I always felt neji had every right to feel how he felt and naruto attitude was dat of a child who didn't kno nothing bout how the real world works like how most kids wanna rush to grow up but soon realize adult life not all sunshine and rainbows
Everyone forgets how important the naruto punch on neji was...they referenced it in both canon movies
Neji had every right to be wrong but he put his own issues on everyone else preaching his beliefs and it was annoying so getting punched in the face was needed for him
@@Axel-ye8tt he was definitely wrong but put urself in neji shoes if u had to endure wat he had too u probably wud turn out just like him I dnt agree wit him but I understand y he feel dat way and he was kinda right bout destiny seeing how naruto was a reincarnation of Jesus he was destined for greatness
@@Axel-ye8tt Neji is right. In the real world, success doesn't really achieve hard work. Also Neji had every right to act like that because if your father is being tortured by your uncle, you will be worst than him.
@@Axel-ye8tt Are you serious bro? next to naruto who doesn't stfu during any fight? and just goes on on about how he's a good person. Its all gas dude, you are so full of shit.
Of course Neji was right; he also was the strongest Hyuga member by far and should have been kage-level by the war arc and there is literally NOTHING on that battliefield that should have been able to penetrate his defenses. A 5 year old could see that his death was cheap, forced, unnatural and inconsistent with his previous feats of speed, visual insight and chakra control. Kishimoto himself admitted he only killed him to push Naruto and Hinata together. He was the ONLY member of the konoha 11 to be appointed to Jonin in the beginning of shippuden and he surpassed his entire clan, one of the strongest clans in the most powerful village, at the age of 13. He possessed unparelleled chakra control, THREE chakra natures, and his potential was easily the greatest out of all the main characters.
Naruto literally changing his destiny proves Neji wrong
@@jin4712 Facts
@@jin4712 Naruto never changes his destiny.
@@kendivedmakarig215 The series literally tells you that Naruto is destined to continue the reincarnation cycle which Naruto defied by ending it. That was the entire point of that plot point. Simply reading the series proves neji is wrong about destiny being absolute.
@@jin4712 yeah, the guy who the entire series is named after and had every advantage in that world managed to defy fate.
shocker.
It's actually because of his complexity, strength and internal struggles that makes Neji one of my favorite characters in the franchise besides Hinata, Sasuke, Naruto, Shikamaru and Kakashi. People also have to realize that true freedom is actually the hardest thing to maintain. Neji felt like he was in a cage, but one can argue a person is inside cages within cages. Society's rules and expectations are one, but the most significant is the internal one, the part of yourself that tells you you'll never be good enough for anything.
In his song As You Are, Chris Daughtry says, "you build these walls to keep you safe, it's like a prison you can't escape, if you tear them down, you just might hear me say" and "you wage this war within yourself, wasting time dying in a shell, they don't define you, just know they never will". It's a beautiful song and one I highly recommend if you're feeling lost or alone, or even having an identity crisis.
This, Neji as we meet him was a bitter, arrogant child of trauma. Who thought that if he couldn't change things (alone) with all of his potential, then how could anyone else. It enraged Neji to see Naruto still believe in himself, in spite of his obvious short comings. Why wasn't he angry and bitter too? Society had decided Naruto's fate, why wouldn't he just accept it? Neji may have started out blind to the prison that society had built around him but, Neji built his own cell and called it home. Thankfully with good freinds I do think he felt free before the end. He deserved the opportunity to thrive/fly but so did all Shinobi children.
I believe you are right. Another thing too, we, the audience, don't actually get a revelation as to why the split in the Hyuga clan exists. Where did it come from? How did it degenerate into branding the branch family like slaves? The same thing happened to the Otsutsuki clan on the moon led by the Hyuga ancestor Hamura, and though in a reversal, conflict still happened. It took someone outside the clan to highlight their flaws out in the open and I don't see anything unfortunate in that. An outside perspective can do a lot, like those of everyone watching this.
People keep shipping Neji and Tenten together, but I don't think that's the case. I don't think that Neji wanted his kids to have the same curse mark.
His kid(s) wouldn’t have a curse mark. The hierarchy was abolished.
That does sound like Neji.
I mean tbf, by the end of the series, he damn well the best byakugan user and if he objects to the curse mark, who’s stopping him? Plus, it seems that the byakugan only has a 50/50 chance of passing it on so the byakugan might not even be passed down to his child therefoee curse mark is not needed.
I don't think it's the case because they're neither in the anime nor manga are they ever even remotely hinted as being a relationship to be built up. Shippers forget that it is possible for male and female characters to interact without a relationship, and it's also possible to date someone outside of your immediate coworkers.
I felt Lee would have been more compatible with Tenten.
When Neji died, I heard someone said, "Kishimoto, you could've killed Tenten!" 😂
My brother said that before lol
That would be pointless
his shit uncle should have sacrificed himself for the next generation, that would had been so more satisfying
I mean...I don't think anyone would miss her 💀
@@scotthayeswwe I guess that's why someone meaningful had to die
When speaking of Naruto's mental fortitude, and not giving up on his friend like Hashirama did, I'd argue that the circumstances are different. Hashirama's fortitude was no less, or even greater than Naruto's. When told killing himself could end the war with the Uchiha, Hashirama didn't hesitate for even a second, and put a knife to his throat. Later on, he fought Madara because he was planning on destroying the village. Hashirama didn't fail to save his friend, he made a choice. There was no "Both" option.
Naruto on the other hand, did not have to make the same hard choice. Sasuke's actual damage to the leaf village was minimal at best. One could argue he killed Danzo, but it's not like Naruto cared. Even Sasuke's plan at the end of the war wouldn't destroy the villages. What if Naruto had to make the same choice as Hashirama? The Konoha or his friend. What if it had been Sasuke who did all that damage instead of Pain? Killed Kakashi and all the other villagers? Still think he'd try and save Sasuke?
Good point.
Yes he literally would lol no matter what sasuke did naruto would save him from his hatred because that's what naruto's character arc is; overcoming HIS hatred and then overcoming all the hatred in the ninja world by breaking the cycle of hatred between indra and ashura.
@@Zomdie151 You mean like how he totally forgave Pain when he thought he killed Hinata and DIDN'T erupt in rage, trying to kill him? Sure he calmed down later, but the point is he gave in to his hatred. He didn't kill Pain because he COULDN'T. And that was just for Hinata. What if Sasuke succeeded in killing Sakura back at the Kage summit?
Naruto forgave kawaki for killing boruto in 5 seconds flat it's in the manga. If he could forgive someone for killing his own son that he can forgive anyone for anything lmao.
@@lastraider2435 I mean, to be fair, I'd gladly forgive Kawaki for killing Boruto, lol.
Imagine if Hinata's and Neji's dads switched roles. Then, Neji would be the son of the head and Hinata would still be a girl who likes Naruto.
And maybe not being a princess Hinata would be MUCH stronger
@@chavonjames8941 if hinata wasn't the princess then if she didn't want to be a ninga it would be a option for her (we all know she didn't like to fight )
Yeah that’s the tragedy of it. A few moments and it would have been switched.
@@shantoakter3124 True. Hinata wasn't a fighter. She was forced to become a ninja by her own father. When he passed on the rank of heiress to Hinata'a younger sister. Who was stronger than her. If Neji and Hinata roles were switched they probably would have a much happier destiny.
@@chavonjames8941 After doing so some thinking. I realize that had Hinata and his family been born in the side branch family and Neji was born in the main branch family. She wouldn't have become a ninja and her childhood would've been alot more happy. Hinata would've probably became a apothecary or a medical-nin.
Neji “choosing” his death only shows that his kid self was right. Ultimately, Neji becoming jonin, him learning new skills, etc, didn’t matter as much as training Hinata, befriending Hinata, acting as Hinata’s shield in the war even before he died. He became the exact person his kid self said he would. He lost his identity to the main house.
He fulfilled his destiny. He had the same nonchoice his father had. If it can be said that Hizashi would have been forced to throw his life away anyway, what would’ve happened to Neji if he hadn’t stepped in, or if he was somewhere else, not playing the role of her protector?
If you can’t be 100% sure that Hiashi or another main branch member wouldn’t have punished him or killed him for not doing his duty, then it was a nonchoice.
It’s telling that no one after his death talks about his accomplishments, or his dreams or desires or what he was leaving behind.
They talk about him being free from the Hyuuga and they make a bird formation. They _only_ talk about him being a Hyuuga, and a branch member, because that’s all he was in the end. He completed his destiny, and only then did he get to be free.
It really isn’t. Neji sacrificed himself not because it was his duty, but because he cared for Hinata.
@@thesilvershota3091 It also wasn't just Hinata. He talked more about saving Naruto than Hinata lol. But yeah, naruto proves neji was right about destiny existing but wrong about it being absolute.
@@jin4712 But he didn't jump in front of Naruto. He jumped in front of Hinata. If Hinata hadn't been there and Neji _had_ really saved Naruto, then this wouldn't be such a debated topic in the community.
But he didn't. Hinata was the one who would've died if he didn't step in, not Naruto.
@@thesilvershota3091 see last paragraph of the first comment.
Honestly all team guy got done bad
Rock Lee- him not being developed further was one of the worst decisions in the series especially since he was a fan favorite
Ten Ten- essentially looked like a bada$$ and even admired Tsunade.. But essentially was trash tier in the series.. People get on Sakura but ten ten is really the bottom of all the females..
might Guy - Got denied a heroes death. I only read the Boruto manga but I'm sure nothing can happen with him that would be worth having saved him..
Nejj- as we know was ultimately right in regards to Naruto. I wished he would've been built up more before his death though..
I agree many female and side characters were dealt a bad hand by the Naruto Studio and Kishimoto himself. In my opinion. In the realms of the Naruto universe. Neji is right about being "born special." But Naruto is right about people changing their own destiny. Because of so few characters in the Konoha 12. Are not as powerful than other and don't get enough attention.
Rock was just at the end of his character arc, that's it.
Ok, you can stop crying now
@@SuperboyLilly yea but in writing it won't ever be taken well if a well liked character doesn't have a satisfying ending
@@kingnamor7777 yea it's like a double edged sword
We never got to see Neji fight Rock Lee. 😭
RIGHT!That Fight would've been so Legendary!Brains vs Brawn!the speed of that battle would've been dope..Kishimoto could've done so much better with his characters
Yeah bc Rock lee isnt Naruto and everything in Shippuden is abt him
@@erikmationsdms7076that fight would be awesome to see, and I would have been excited.
Naruto was destined for greatness. To have the strongest tailed beast sealed inside him, to be a descendant of the Uzumaki clan and the reincarnation of Ashura, he had to be the child of prophecy. He had a difficult life and was lazy initially but you cannot say that he was not meant to be the strongest shinobi. He always was and that was his destiny.
Neji was bound by the shackles of fate and that was his greatest tragedy. His life ended exactly the way he said it would.
Naruto vs Neji is a fight to be studied for a long time. Incredible writing.
Naruto beat the sht out of neji telling him "There's no such a thing as destiny, we make our own destiny" and then proceeds to follow a prophecy that says he is the badass dude who is literally reincarnation of god while beating people with the megazord that was sealed into him all that with the help of his bloodline with unlimited chakra for the rest of the anime
You leave out the part where he says, "even if there is destiny, I'll change it" which he does proving Neji wrong. Also, not only did you get the quote wrong but you're confusing prophecy with destiny.
Dude, Neji was so right. Naruto was both hard working and lazy. He neglected his studies and some of his training, which has resulted in him nearly getting his ass killed several times over but he had the power of plot to save his life. Naruto had a difficult life, but I definitely would say he was equally blessed.
There are too many aspects in Naruto's life to suggest he's not supported by fate. Yes, he may have stopped the cycle with him and Sasuke but it looks like it continues on with Boruto and Kawaki in some manner.
That moment right before he died when it showed that bird in the sky and he smiled, it was so beautiful and sad at the same time. There was no resentment in that moment, just peace. What a complex and wonderful character, it's a huge shame he was sidelined then disposed of without us getting to know him more. I'd like to watch a whole anime based on his life.
Its also sad kishimoto never developed the Byakugan like he did with the Sharingan into MS into EMS into Rinnegan.
It just fell short when all the crazy stuff was unfolded for the Sharingan when in classic Naruto they were like rivals.
It would give Neji more relevance and screen presence showcasing his raw talent and new skills developed through hard work.
Its the same issue Kishi had with any side character. And even every female character.
His most developed Sakura was still very weak in the end when his childs of destiny just got powers gifted by the creater of ninjutsu.
Its sad. As while the entire world he created is clearly great and enjoyable its bound to alot of favoritism.
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm the byakugan was stated to actually be above the sharingans so they were not rivals but actually superior
@@unkown981 Back then it was as booth simply provided the ability to see chakra and react easier to things.
The Sharingan eventually got Genjutsu while the Byakugan brought genhle fist and Genjutdu immunity as you can see disturbances in chakra.
So back then it was as it saw better and was counter to genjutsu. But as things went on well.
I think neji was perfectly used ...he knew destiny is not something you can change but naruto showed us all you can through shadow clones aka us fans...neji vs naruto is still the most important fight in this story and everything we see in boruto is the future he didn't expect to happen or be shown...neji literally knew how he would die during part 1 when he lost to naruto....his byukugan was that much better than hinata
It should have been Hinata’s shitty dad Hiashi that died instead of Neji. Would have accomplished the exact same thing by bringing Naruto and Hinata closer, and also would have been atonement to how badly he’d treated his daughter for years.
Its shallow writing and i was disappointed in Kishimoto for it.
He tried to twist it in "Neji dies for Hinata but he is okay with it and its by his choice". The problem runs much deeper. Its not just about destiny. Its not just about a moral dilemma. We are talking about a stolen life. A stolen future. Stolen freedom.
Neji was right. Many would argue he matured from his younger self. I agree he did in some ways. He understood not everything is predetermined and crushing others dreams is wrong. However when it comes to his own fate, he was always right. And he was spot on with his hatred and anger.
He was faited to died for the main line and he died for the main line. The burden put on him came true. For the short life he lived after the exams, Neji knew no freedom but involuntary illusion created by Naruto and Hinata. Illusion that gave him false hope for himself. That he can live a life he wants. That his circumstance was something he could overcome. But unfortunately those pretty lies cant make the curse mark on his forehead disappear. Hinatas kindness and Narutos attempts to convince Neji his faith isn't decided cant change reality.
Neji stopped hating Hinata because she proved she was different and kind hearted. He started liking Naruto because he "proved" him wrong and inspired him. However here comes the question - Do pretty words change reality or do they merely put a mask on reality's evil truth? I say its the latter.
Hinata may be different but that doesnt change her blood and where she comes from. She still comes from the line that enslaved Neji. Hinata is still the oppressor who he is forced to give his life for. Even if she didn't want it. She is his curse. Kindness wont change that
Naruto was never in position to tell Neji he is wrong about himself. He is just an outsider who could never understand what its like to have your life stolen away from you and forced to serve somebody else.
He is quite literally an anti thesis to Neji.
Naruto was the most free a man could be because he had no clan and wasn't force to do anything that isnt his choice. He decided his own faith. Meaning he is the furthest person away from Neji.
Years after the war, Hinata and Naruto banned the seal ritual. New generations dont bare it. Their words of kindness ended up being real in the longer game. And they did prove to be different. Their kindness is the reason there will never be another Neji. They changed things for the better........however it was too late for Neji to witness or experience that.
Nejis reality was tragic. He was right about how he will live and how he will die. Denied the choice of future from an early childhood, Neji lived a slave and died a slave. Never knowing true freedom but mere lies of those who never understood him.
yeah this. i love hinata, but she was reduced into such a non-character and never allowed to actually grow. i would've loved for her to find her inner strength by realising she could use her kindness for a good cause: becoming the head of her clan, standing with neji against the older, traditional folk, and ending slavery. and that, in turn, would be the actually legitimate reason neji begins to care for her. it's so frustrating to me because both hinata and neji's arcs are *right there,* they could've broken that cycle, but that potential is never delved into.
I almost wished that Neji was the one who collaborated with skilled ninja to find a way to remove the curse mark and then he died.
At least, he would have some reprieve and relief from being a trapped being for once in his life. Banning the curse mark didnt do much. The branch households are still required to serve to the main branch, the curse mark was just a physical punishment as back up just in case one of them betrayed the main branch. It was deep-rooted corruption that ruined the Hyuga and made the branch families miserable and not the curse mark itself that caused it. If anything, making the main branch realize the other branch members values and having protection through loyalty and love rather than hate and pain is a much better way of solving the underlying issues but as far as we’ve seen, only one branch family gets the focus and that Neji died in their representation ‘for the sake of the main branch still’ so ultimately it still reinforced the fate of the branch families living to die for the main family
People keep saying the clan banded the bird cage seal, but I see utterly no proof of it. It's literally rooted in classism and supremacy. A clan like the Hyuga's realistically wouldn't get rid of that Cruse mark; since they want to preserve the Byakugan at all cost. The lives of the lower branch are considered lesser then the main and they use them as fodder. This is sovereign great noble clan that cannot be told how to operate by anyone. Not even the Hokage. Naruto has no sway or power in changing ages old law and rhetoric and Hinata has shown not a single instance of care or interest in the bird cage seal. She's been about getting in Naruto's pants since the beginning. Politics and etc... Hinata literally disengaged from all hardship and work since she was demoted in status. She couldn't beat her sister inorder to preserve her title, or to carry the load of being heiress in order to save her younger system. Nor did she ever speak up for Neji's sake. I don't believe any of those non canon as novels written as fanfiction to give characters credit they didn't work or show consideration for in canon.
Hinata got into a fight with her sister regarding Naruto in one of the novels, because her sister thought she should have decency and actual confidence to confront Naruto about his absentee father schtick. And Hinata almost had a heart attack. This chick left her clan high and dry for her man candy. Lol
Naruto, imo, doesn't mesh with the Hyuga clan. It just feels manufactured and fake. Lol
The ending was a shit show and stepford, as hell. It's easy for Hiashi to ve a doting grandfather when Neji, the only real representative of the lower branch is dead and the rest of them are never seen or mentioned. Out of sight and out of mind. 💀
Hinata marrying Naruto was a Boone for the Hyuga. A political power play. Allowing them to get closer to the Hokage seat since nepotism runs rampant.
He was right about destiny existing but he was wrong about everything else
@@hinasakukimi That's because female characters in Shounen shouldn't be allowed to grow, it's made for boys.
Personally I feel that the theme of the show was that one cannot fight destiny. Naruto is an Uzumaki (a distant relative of the Senju and Otsutsuki) he was destined to be Hokage above his peers he was even given the power of a tailed beast
Everyone else and they momma gets revived but my boi Neji’s death is the only certain one. He most definitely deserved better.
Reviving him after he fulfilled his destiny and the curse mark vanished would have been great. Maybe he could have even founded his own House afterwards
Neji was always one of my favorite characters since I was little and he will continue being that forever 💯 I'll never get over his death 😔
Neji is pointing out systemic issues of inequality and discrimination and the myth of meritocracy all while Naruto is covering his ears crying "Bootstrap! Bootstrap!"
Naruto was covering his ears ??? Wtf are you talking about ?
@@3arlthegoat Go look at episode 35
@@anentiresleeveoforeos2087 Kishimoto making Neji to die like a weakling is the best way of trolling his crybaby fanboys 😂
More like at that moment, Neji was a bitter, pessimistic kid who thought "hE uNdErStOoD tHe WoRlD" through the lens of his experience with pain and inequality. He originally thought he could prove himself out of 'his place' in society. After failing to accomplish this by demonstrating his apptitude, he gave up on the notion that he or anyone was capable of bringing change. This was a spiteful, angry and frankly arrogant mindset. Why, if HE couldn't change things with how great and talanted and smart HE was, who was Naruto to think that he could do what Neji couldn't. Why wasn't he just like Neji, why couldn't he accept the lot that life had given him, how could he still believe in himself? I remind you this was the mindset of a child, a traumatized child who no longer believed. With the help of his friends Neji was able to grow past this mentality. I hope he felt as if he had truly lived, before he died. Dying not by obligation but by choice, a choice I'm certain he made freely. He did deserve to truly fly free in a world without war no longer shackled to the cage within his mind. Beyond that, Naruto's entire deal was the cliche "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take".
@@anentiresleeveoforeos2087 episode 35 doesn’t even have Neji in it, again what are you talking about
You know, my take on Neji's death isn't as cut and dry. Kishimoto literally admitted to killing Neji for Naruto and Hinata's development. For Naruto actually pay attention to Hinata for once. Uniting by mourning over Neji seemed promising in hindsight, but actually was a really terrible idea that didn't pan out to shit.
Neji shouldn't have died for Hinata. He had no other option but to choose to die for something that was somewhat in his control. So, he died to save his cousin. Whom he loved and if we take hints from Naruto SD, and how the Hyuga clan operates; then they're may have been more than familial feelings involved. Neji was like the canary in the coal mind. Telling everyone that Kishimoto didn't do shit to solve the Hyuga's issues. In fact Kishimoto is a very staunch believer in maintaining the status quo. Anyone not satisfied with the system is either written off, killed off, demonized or becomes a Naruto ride or die fanboy.
Sasuke had real grievances, Neji had grievances, and Rain was given a false promise by Naruto for change. I notice fans really don't like discussing the darker, harsher underlying issues regarding the Naruto-verse. It's inequalities, aristocratic military, the genocides, the nationalism and propaganda. Konoha isn't absolved from any of that. All of the darkness concerning murder and etc... Was pinned on Danzo. Despite other characters being fully aware and compliant by inaction and association. There's a dissonance when it comes to appraising the series objectively, because it's more of a power fantasy. Then one that's seen mirror our world and the ugly nature of power and humanity. Power begets more power, as violence begets more violence. Yet that's the currency the Naruto-verse runs on. Ninja's like black ops and weapon dealers need war and conflict to thrive. The villages attitudes and treatment of the jinchurikki tells us as much. If Naruto and Sasuke weren't the powerhouses keeping checks and balances as they were, then someone would've definitely tried something by now. Villages, towns and leaders can agree in principle, but realistically in hindsight..... they'll be happy as hell when Naruto and Sasuke are gone. Becoming Hokage for example is layered in nepotism. Nothing in the Naruto-verse is free of manipulation and influence. Free of consequence to just be on one's own merit. Smaller towns and villages affected by the war and overshadowed, as usual would've had issues.
Rock Lee is a truly gifted opponent with no chakra of his own, but he has hit a glass ceiling. One limited by his lack of status, clan and ordinariness. I viewed Rock lee's positivity as bright and gleeful shield hiding his inability to prosper beyond his limits. Since there will always be someone more powerful then he is. So, he shines bright despite it and refuses to be ignored or pushes aside. Rock Lee carries a recklessness that deep understanding of despair and futility brings. Knowing at his most powerful (i.e. the 8 gates), he'll burn bright and burn out.
Regarding Neji, this character had a lot to live for. But the ending of the series was very stepford and unrealistic. Neji had to die to put a lynch pin in recognizing that Hinata and the main branch didn't do shit to change how things operate. I say he committed suicide willingly, since that's the only way he was going to be free. The series rarely shows any of the lower branch and if they do....they are men. The women in this clan are out of sight and out of mind. Living behind the walls of Hyuga laws and restrictions; within a compound that rarely lets anyone below a certain status in. The Hyuga being one of the great noble clans, have sovereignty, has money and the connections to flaunt. They are like the Rockefellers. This clan has a specific phenotype like the Uchiha's. Both clans were more likely to practice endogamy in order to preserve their kekkei genkai's.
If we take into consideration heir archy, class and the way the Japanese and Koreans viewed class. Since the Hyuga's do share similarities to Korean dynasties. Then the lower branch were and are never going to be free. The main branch uses them as sacrifices. Since they consider their own lives to be Worth more then that of the lower branch. That's why the only females we see are heiresses and Hinata has Nej; while Hanabi has Ko.
Neji's death wasn't even valued since he's often demonized by sects of the fandom, or the narrative, seen as arrogant and lesser then with fans stating he deserved to die for Hinata for how he treated her. Despite them completely ignoring the division abd invalidating the slavery and bondage taking place in this series. Fans identify more with the royalty then the abused. We see this time and time again. Fans agreeing with the Uchiha genocide and etc....
Naruto didn't teach fans how to think and recognize injustices. It taught fans how to minimize them and make excuses; since their favorite characters were often of higher class and powerful clans. The Hyuga's realistically wouldn't end a system like the bird cage seal. Sadism and class warfare is built heavily into it. Neji's father expressing anger at hinata's lack of competency is realistic, but him getting punished for it shows the lower branches voices and autonomy doesn't matter. Hinata being allowed to literally be disinterested, unengaged and unaffected by her own cousins plight speaks volumes at the difference in privilege. Fans praise her for chasing and obsessing over Naruto yet get upset when criticism is made against her lack of purpose, lack of interacting with her backstory and being able to coast through the series with very little growth or change. She's willing to die for Naruto and constantly tries to yet has no consideration for her own cousin; whom she knows was raised to die for her. Even upon Neji's death, the words that came out of his mouth were used as a stepping stone to highlight hinata's feelings. Guilt trying Naruto and basically stating Hinata is willing to die for you, now both of our blood are on your hands. He was thrown away to elevate someone who didn't do shit. I'd rather Hinata actually die like the tragic romantic she tried to be then Neji paying for her inability to think or move Naruto out of the way.
Hiashi had more sympathy for Neji then Hinata ever died and she showed no concern either. Neji was a prodigy that should've been clan leader in order to show realtime growth and change. While Hinata had no real will or interest in doing anything that requires hard work and putting herself out there. For example admitting her own attraction and feelings without the narrative of the last fanfic doing for her. Completely absolving her of maturity and the risk of seeing less then perfect and infallibly human. Or even being willing to beat Hanabi to retain her status in order to not burden her sister. I think this video could've been deeper the. This but regardless, I appreciated it. 🙃
I admittedly didn't like Neji at first but after I got knownhim better, I grew to like him and wish him and many others got more time to be fleshed out.
He definitely got done dirty and Hinata's lack of empathy for him and his plight is pretty disturbing to think about considering her gentle, caring nature.
Also yeah, I wouldn't too surprised if another big ninja war broke out after Naruto and Sasuke died.....
Are you stupid Neji character arc ended perfectly and the hyuga clan did change and Naruto kept his promise to rain village there is no ninja war or people fighting over territory and Rock lee character arc ended perfectly he proved his worth
It's not surprising that fans don't wanna acknowledge the dark side of the village if you take into account that naruto himself doesn't seem to care that much. In the naruto vs neji fight, neji talks about how he's a slave to the main branch and he can't do anything because of the mark on his forehead, naruto brings up the fact that he's a jinchuriki. But naruto is free to do whatever he wants, neji isn't. he doesn't try to understand him. After the fight with naruto hiashi says his father chose to sacrifice himself, neji suddenly forgets about how fucked up his clan is, while hinata has clan members who will probably be killed if anything bad happens to her (pain arc) . When he dies, the clan's situation is never brought up again. It's not a romance manga it's a shame he had to die for a naruhina moment.
When naruto finds out the truth about itachi, he was confused and couldn't understand why sasuke didn't wanna go back to the village where his clan was murdered for no reason and everyone thinks of his brother as an evil person. Even now the village doesn't know the truth about the clan. Again naruto doesn't acknowledge the villages fault for what happened to the uchiha clan.
They can defend the uchiha massacre by saying that the clan members were planning to overthrow the leaf, but the only reason they did that is because they were treated unfairly by the village. Madara left the village because his clan was treated like shit, but the rest of the clan stayed because they didn't want another war and what did they get? Are we supposed to think that them not liking the way they were treated is not right and killing them is justified? They didn't even try to talk things out. By their logic, sasuke wanting to destroy the leaf is also justified.
They learn from a young age that the village should be above everything else even your family. Sakumo, kakashi's father, chose to save his teammates instead of completing the mission and was called a traitor for not following the rules. He ended up committing suicide. Obito was the only one who criticized the system by calling scum those who abandon their friends.
@@willow9049 Exactly! When points like this are brought up...the fandom is mum as hell. They get selective amnesia and can't critique or appraise the work in front of them. If they acknowledged the fuckery of the ninja system, then they'd have to acknowledge Naruto's entitlements and destined fate. They'd have to acknowledge Hinata's privilege and that everything the fandom praises her for is rooted in her genetics and position in society. They'd have to admit Konoha's will of fire is nationalistic, as hell. That ninjas don't have real freedom. They are dogs of the military and will act like sanctioned genocide never happened, and of you complain about it... they'll be like... listen to my wack as woe is me story. A lot of fans are eager to be liked, accepted and share in commiserating in pitiful backstories. As if, it entitles them the world.
They claim to love Rock Lee yet not see his true struggle and the futility his "positivity" hides. They hate on Sakura yet are hypocrites, and don't want to recognize how Kakashi saw no purpose in her and treated Sakura like cannon fodder/ or like a piece of meat for the boys to read apart. Even the Hokage at the time, Hiruzen knew that's why he placed Sakura on team 7. A pretty girl to drive the boys yet she didn't matter as a person to them at all. Fanfics have don so much better in recognizing these facts and portraying them honestly.
Naruto as a Hokage is as awful and hypocritical as I always knew he'd be. Fans hate when you critique this character, because of all the protagonist centered morality and self insertions. A realistic Naruto is just as interesting, more in fact but it's damning to the fanboys. The way they fawn over nationalism and fascism... really makes me wonder if they ever read a book, watched a documentary or learned anything about history. 💀
Normalcy and being average or normal in this universe is like a curse and the fandom knows it. They'd rather railroad over all the evils and trauma and hate on characters that brought it up. Sasuke get masive hate yet he's a nuanced character, because he's so grounded in realism. The fandom hates it though. So, they'll act like everything's fine. That Naruto's indifference didn't matter and his son's specialness isn't from genetics and being chosen. Naruto lost Kurama but before was able to pull out Baryon mode and now some super Saiyan looking shit. What happened to hard work. Naruto would rather die then be a Normal because he knows how unfair the ninja world is. He wanted power, to be adored, and prestige with none of the responsibility.
correct me if i’m wrong but in naruto classic didn’t hiashi initially say hinata was no use for the clan and didn’t care if she’d die on missions as a genin in team 8? and her effort was partaking in the chunin exam even if no one believed in her becoming strong enough to become anything more then an asset? shippuuden did not do anything with this plot point i think
Look I really want to believe naruto was in fact a hard worker and he is but the series still shows hard work does not beat out natural genetics nor fate. Yes he mastered rasengan and shadow clone and even sage mode but dont forget the only reason he was able to do so was entirely because he was the jinchuriki of the hidden leaf. nobody wanted to help or train him until they found this out nobody else was given the attention nobody else had these ties by family nor history. for just one moment go back to the zabuza mission he would be dead due to the poison of the brothers, dead to haku's kekei genkai, dead many many times over without the ninetails helping him. It doesnt matter if the ninetails didnt like or even hated him he was able to always cash in the get out of free jail card every time. If the richest businessman in the world personally tutored me and every time I made a decision where my company would go under he bailed me out when I finally made it could I really say I was a hard worker? Sure I kept at it I made mistakes and I spent nights doing this practice but the only question I have is wouldnt most people be able to do this with this much safety net if they had a moderate amount of work ethic? poor lee and the others never stood a chance and I love naruto he is a good guy and a genuine/ naïve soul but he still had his hand held and led by the people around him its a real shame. because it just shows the reality of life and if you were not born into the favor of genetics or destiny then you either suffer, get lucky(something like the lottery ect), take it from others, or become the best you can be with what you have that will still not add up to the best but good for you to try. :(
When you take the story into accnt as a whole it's plain obvious Naruto always had some kind of a divine luck or permanent buff. That's why i think the only characters that really represents the theme of hard work over destiny and fate are Might Guy and Rock Lee. Might Guy busted his balls to learn a forbidden jutsu that his father pioneered. Didn't have a Tailed Beast, kekkei genkai, or one of the former Hokage. Just blood, sweat, and tears! If Guy failed, he had nothing to fall back on. He even gave himself obstacles like 200 laps around the village on his hands to conquer any mental weakness. He risked his life by opening the Gate of Death and gave Madara an ass whopping so hard Madara proclaimed him as the greatest taijutsu shinobi. And Lee, well, his fight with Gaara says everything lol
Naruto get get capped at certain points. Like being forced to not use the Nine Tails chakra. And there was the severe self-damage his rasenshuriken inflicted upon him that rendered the jutsu imperfect and unusable. But consequences never last very long for Naruto.... Not permanently like they did Neji.
This is so true and it hurts. Loved Naruto but he really was bailed out way too much
You're correct Naruto had a lot of help and luck to get him through it. Essentially it was expected of him to be a top nin of the village.
Is there a shonen anime where the protagonist doesn't have some special shit that bails them out or special background connection?
@@alexmartin6561 true but bleach and the like dont push the underdog nobody trope as hard as naruto did. Its not that the powers are bad it was cool as hell. But the issue is they were so hypocritical about the meaning of the first half of the anime and never really addressed it properly later. Basically just hoped we forgot about it and consumed the FlaSHie eXpLoZionS near end of shippuden.
Filler neji is so dope. Filler neji is my favorite character in Naruto tbh
I felt bad for Neji when he saw Hiashi mentally torture Hizashi.
It s not just torture, it s destruction of cells...literall lobotomy.
What annoys me is that neji had to learn everything by himself, and don't give me the "Gai trains him!" bullshit, Gai literally uses furious fist, wth can Gai do to train him with his actual abilities? And hinata should've at least showed neji some of the stuff she learned after all those year of neji trying to protect her despite their bad childhood, and even though it wasn't her fault, she really was privileged and was spoiled, stubborn and didn't even know about it because her kindness covered it up, like people like to pay attention to character's good sides instead of their bad sides.
“Fate will only bond you, if you let it.”
-Kratos
Works for Kratos only.
Neji wasn't a villain. He was a pessimist kid.
Pessimist? a person who tends to see the worst aspect of things or believe that the worst will happen.
"the pessimists point to ways in which life has deteriorated" After getting a curse mark on his head and told he'll always be worse than someone else? If you're marked like a cow then thats enough damage. Being realistic compared to just being overly optimistic which both look bad depending on perspective.
Ah the damn pessimistic child slave who witnessed his own fathers execution, such a downer bro he should cheer up or something
@@2mellow35 you’re thinking of the word cynic, you’re still wrong
@@ToughVato You are wrong about that. Neji is not a pessimist. He is just stating facts about real life. In short he is a realist not a pessimist.
Neji was right:
After the fight with Naruto: "Wow so one can overcome destiny by hard-work".
Ending of Shippuden: "So Naruto is basically the reincarnation of a God" -> so yeah, Destiny in the end.
I like the video but let’s get this out of the way compared to sasuke , naruto barely trained to reach that level , sasuke was training his ass off since 7 years old to scrap with itachi while naruto was sipping bowls of ramen , we were only told he trained hard in part one and the few times we were shown how he trained was either something like a month (for rasengan) and bare in mind he wasn’t even a hard worker in the academy, at most he worked hard for like a month and that’s it , neji and sasuke the series geniuses worked for years to reach their respective levels and sasuke had to fucking use curse mark to push himself back to the top even with his blessed potential, naruto put on some work but he certainly didn’t work that hard compared to the rest
facts 💯
Childhood is when you idolize Naruto, adulthood is when you realize Neji was right
I believe some people are like Kakashi and Sasuke are Born with gifts like skills to master things relatively easily . While others like Guy or Naruto with a different type of gifts but in no way lesser . That is their attitude of never backing down and mental fortitude as you said of giving twice the effort as others. Everyone in real life also has either of these skills. People only fail when they fall in love with others gifts rather than nurturing their own. And hence eventually despair.
Well he was wrong because Naruto DID change his fate. As a reincarnation of Ashura his fate was to fight Sasuke and either he was gonna kill him, be killed by him, or they would kill each other.
No Naruto killed Sasuke, just philosophically. In all the previous cycles the brothers warred over philosophy and killed each other in that war. In this one Naruto didn't kill Sasuke physically but he did kill him philosophically. Sasuke was essentially rebirthed after that fight.
@@EF-wy3di wtf are you talking about? you sound so goofy
@@EF-wy3di bro what 😂
@@EF-wy3di bro are you sure you read Naruto and not Saruto
@@EF-wy3di yeahhh no they were destined to kill eachother physically
Neji was still right. Yes, Naruto worked hard but what if Neji worked harder? Would he have surpassed Naruto? Not a chance.
Very good Analysis on Neji. I never really thought about the fact that the leaf village actually does know the happenings of each clan so they're not only aware but are ok with these practices. It's actually kind of crazy to think about but it's still messed up that the only autonomy of choice they have is to choose the way they get to die. Neji deserved so much better he could've really been the future and bridge to a new way the Hyuga conducts themselves
I like stories like Neji, shonen is not all about fun and good guy wins attitude, there is sorrow and sadness
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He was right. Nearly every ninja in the franchise with a serious power level has some sort of tailed beast, blood line amp, or some sort of injection from the former two. You get power cliffed the second you're run into someone who's trained long enough with a KG. Might Guy with full gates active still needed some help to overtake such a massively amped up Madara in the war for example.
you make no sense, anyone harming beings like 10 tails madara is already in the status of being a god, heck harming edo madara alone would make you god tier, what kind of nonsense are you talking about
@@marinenico1993 That Gai needed the help of numerous other skilled ninja to get to that point, and to even get into a situation where he could hit Madara with Night Guy otherwise he'd have been killed by the truth seeking orbs when Minato went to block them? Also the attack ultimately failed to do anything and Madara survived leading to Kaguya returning? Not to mention the gates would've cost Guy his life if Naruto hadn't deus ex machina'd him back to life. Also a thesaurus would be welcome so you can say something other than 'make no sense' twice in a row.
Not to mention That Pervy sage at some point was poised to be number 5, but he rejected the post and gave it to Tsunade, I wouldn't be surprised if he was supposed to be Number4, but he saw it as too much of a hassle.
Edit: Neji wasn't wrong, especially if you think about how he was programmed from a young age to serve the main house, I will say he was far gone to either side, but he wasn't wrong. Naruto still would have stake to the Hokage seat because his dad was Hokage, Sasuke was never going to be Hokage because he is an Uchiha, all the people in Naruto sort of had predetermined destinies, the only thing is none of them knew their destination. Whilst as Neji knew that his destiny was for him to die for his cousin, only difference is Neji focused to much on his destiny.
The whole clan deserved better lol
Neji died so he wouldn't call bullshit when he realized that Naruto and Sasuke are reincarnates
Ultimately Naruto WAS destined to be Hokage not because he wanted it bad enough or because he worked hard enough because Neji, Lee and even Sasuke prove that those are not enough.
Still pissed that Neji died though, he was one of my favorites.
Ive watched naruto a bunch of times over and i know everything that happens. But man the way you explain it in your videos brings me to tears again and again with every upload. You truly are capabale of showing the beauty of this show
he has it all. he’s handsome, he’s talented, he’s strong, has great personality but kishimoto hates him
When he died in shippuden, I didn't realize how much I liked him as a character. I cried because how much he held in all those years.
What I love about the neji’s destiny topic! It will never truly die ever. Every year there’s a new video on this topic! 😝
I feel by 2022 we need to get over neji dying...hinata and naruto now have 3 kids...its a rap....neji was always going to die
neji was happy to protect hinata but he became furious when his father was looked at as nothing and their branch was abused.
My favorite narrator/story teller…. Thanks for dropping my guy 👌🏾
Neji was right about challenging the systemic inequalities and curse imposed on him. He was right that the potential you are born with is of the most importance.
He was done dirty for such a stupid reason.
Neji was the original Blackpiller
Exactly
Hate how he had to die for Hinata in the end. Even if blah blah he chooses to do it bullshit. His curse mark and lee's inability to use anything but taijistu don't come close to the shit hand they got by kishimoto's writing in Shippuden.
He died for the next generation
Neji deserved better.
to be honest. neji was right.
the third hokage didn't do anything on the tragic events.
the hyuga problem , the uchiha death , a young orphan.
how I look at it, it was destiny for Neji to die for Hinata, however its different because at first it was like he didn't have a choice and he hated that, But after meeting Naruto and knows what he means to everyone and Hinata, he made the choice to save hinata and naruto. If he didn't try to save hinata the curse mark would never force him to save her, it was his own choice. but then again, it would be better if the curse mark thing would be removed especially after Tsunade took over. Neji should have felt real freedom, not just in death. I blame the writers.
If he saved Hinata he would prove destiny was real and if he didn't it would prove he didn't change so it was a lose lose situation and he was wrong no matter what.
He could’ve saved Hinata without actually dying (using palm rotation to deflect obito’s rods )him dying for hinata shows he was right that you can’t change your destiny and Naruto was wrong
@@ianmacharia2523 he did change his destiny cause he could’ve let Hinata he did what his father die
@@ianmacharia2523 did
I think neji had to die in the war. ...otherwise the story isn't as powerful moving or beautiful...himawari exists because neji died in war
Was the Neji plot point of Naruto promising to change the Huga clan and saving the side branch from slavery EVER resolved?
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"A leopard doesn't change its spots." That's true, but it does grow into its skin and becomes a fiercer hunter with every victory & every failure. It's appearance may not change but it does develop & adapt
Hinata said “Am going to become stronger for Naruto” like theirs no other reason 🙄.
Hinata loves fish cake in ramen aka naruto...neji died because as they showed us hinata is a queen of gluttony eating 46 bowls of ramen at once
She was willing to die vs pain because she loved him
Both are true, Hard work and determination will take one in a positive direction regardless of circumstances of ones birth, social standing or friends in high-places or lack there of.
This being said these factors can grant one a great advantage and represent a highly significant head start in life or great disadvantage etc etc.
Bro, you got to watch the Netflix Transylvania series I need to hear your breakdown of the characters they’re so in-depth and unique, especially one in particular you’ll find out who he is. He will need no introduction to us who watched him.
1st and 2nd (brothers), 3rd (student of the 2nd), 4th (student of Jiraya who's student of the 3rd), 5th (grandchild of the 1st), 6th (student of the 4th), 7th (student of the 6th and son of the 4th)
I would have been a good arc to see Neji to decide between freedom and the village. But that never happened
I think it was worth mentioning that Neji's father was the oldest twin, yet for some reason his uncle was pick to be the next leader, so he wasn't never to be fated to be a slave to begin with.
What's really weird is according to naruto the last movie the side branch killed the main branch on the moon...so the actual hyuga clan we know shouldn't even be here apparently....it's very confusing
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this video is great like the others
All jutsu can be broken, one way or another. I don’t believe in “destiny” per se. I believe in potential. Neji’s “destiny was just being a child & have someone decide that you don’t have a choice. Like most of us, until we leave home. People took his freedom, not “destiny”. It’s unfortunate.
Destiny is real in Naruto. No matter how good your potential is, and no matter how talented you are. If you aren't destined then you aren't destined.
Honestly in Naruto, the villains, anti heroes and antagonists tend to make more sense than Naruto himself and most of the good guys.
If the villains weren’t narcissists and genocidal maniacs, I’d have rooted for them
They weren’t narcissists. If they were, they wouldn’t give a damn about the worlds troubles & how to go about solving them.
@@EternalBrightness3 Narcissism isn't necessarily selfishness. Are you saying Light wasn't a narcissist?
You need to put pragmatism in its place the antagonists of Naruto may be eloquent but that hardly makes for the case that they are morally corrupt.
@@PayArcanum how so?
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Aaaaa. Idk...Maybe because he really was able to obtain peace by understanding eachother? Or you prefer Pain's way of thinking where you will be permanently scared that somebody will drop a nuke on you? Or maybe Madara's way of thinking were you will be stuck in a giant tree for eternity and the manking will eventually perish. Yeah yeah, waaaaayyyyy better plans
No, not you too…
Edit: Whew, no, my fears were unfounded. You nailed it.
Neji is one of my favourite characters in Naruto. His death towards the end of Naruto was very sad for me.
Honestly the entirety of Team guy should've have more relevance in the story.
Using his death to make naruto and hinata closer was such a waste of a great character who was waste, along with other characters in shippuden.
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Amazing video
neji was always right. That's why everyone was moved by his motivation, but knew that ultimately it was just 2 families feuding and that's a personal matter.
Naruto and Sasuke being the reincarnates of Indra and Ashura I like in concept. Being the reincarnates of the two brothers, Naruto is destined to fight and kill Sasuke to be worshipped as the hero, which he didn’t want. So despite being a chosen one there we’re still drawbacks that Naruto wanted to fight against. By trying to reason and fix the broken friendship with Sasuke, Naruto went against destiny and stopped the cycle of brothers killing each other.
But then they had to make Naruto the child of Prophecy who was destined to unite the tailed beasts, defeat Kaguya and bring world peace. Meaning Naruto is still just another cog of destiny
You could argue that Naruto didn't break any cycle at all. He still battled Sasuke. The only difference is that he won philosophically and not physically. So it was Sasukes philosophy that was killed instead of his body. In all the previous cycles, the bodies were killed but the philosophies lived on. Naruto "ended" the cycle because he was the first one to actually get the real victory, the spiritual one.
@@EF-wy3di So he broke the cycle of hatred between brothers. Thanks for proving his point
@@sting0277 But not in a way that defies his destiny...so thanks for not passing language arts.
@@EF-wy3di Yes he did. He literally stopped the cycle of hatred between brothers. That was literally Kishimoto's intention. But keep crying tho. Go to Japan and say to Kishimoto how he's wrong and you're right
@@sting0277 He was destined to stop the cycle. For him to defy his destiny, he would have had to not participate in the cycle in the first place. He ended the cycle doing what he was destined to do. Ending the cycle is irrelevant because his destiny was to take part in it, which he did.
Kishimoto has contradicted himself in that series hundreds of times.
I think the most important thing to keep in mind, is that people like Rock Lee or Might Guy, are themselves not everyday people. While theoretically, anyone could work that hard, theoretically anyone could also be gifted.
Rock Lee is gifted in the sense that when he puts his mind to something, he will not ever stop and will not ever be dissuaded. I've known someone like that, my father, and to say seeing someone who can work either at a job, exercise or education eight, ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day, every day, for years and never seem at all bothered by the grind so to speak is insane. Nobody became great by being normal, that's the entire idea of greatness to begin with.
The mix between who you are, the benefits or downsides your birth provided and the circumstance of the world around you, creates the outcomes. All three of these things, together.
I do enjoy how Naruto is just the poster child for unfair destiny in the series.
Uzumaki clan, son of the 4th hokage, jinchuriki, my man was destined from the start to be insanely powerful.
Strong genes traits, having a strong teacher, obtaining a mystical beast or demon inside of you that gives you power-up whenever you are near death doors. These all tied with being born special and accommodations. Neji is right about this.
He is right in the fact that it takes more than hard work to achieve one's dreams and goal. As for destiny he is wrong, at least in the realm of the Naruto series. We can choose to ignore, reject and change our destiny. No different than being lazy and rejecting hard work.
As for reality it's different. Some people are given special accommodations, and even if they do, it doesn't mean the individuals won't have any setbacks when achieved their goal or destiny.
While other who don't. Would've to achieve their goal by working hard. With the potential of possibly failing or giving up.
"Strong genes traits, having a strong teacher, obtaining a mystical beast or demon inside of you that gives you power-up whenever you are near death doors. These all tied with being born special and accommodations. Neji is right about this."
You should ponder now what is the price of that power and powerful genes. I'll help you. The Uchiha having great genes made them arrogant and conceited and even Itachi didn't escaped this mentality. Being jinchuriki makes you being feel ostracized, isolated, hated and lonely...oh of course being subjugated by the Tailed Beast will is also fun...Naruto did use Nine tail powers as "powerups" but the cost is the total leak of the seal and Kurama's will taking over easily hurting his friends...that narrative started in Tenchi bridge and concluded in Pain invasion!!.
Hard work is Lee and Guy's theme while Naruto has cooperation has his own theme. Because Naruto is nothing special without the other's cooperation...which is his strength and Sasuke's hatred and solitude as his power in contrast. Note that even with Tailed Beast powers, Naruto asked for consent for theirs while Sasuke not. OBSERVE THE THEME!!
Naruto is hard working but he used it to gain people and the Tailed Beasts trust and that's why he became Hokage.
I wish Neji saw Naruto become Hokage. 😭
Why don't people understand neji like itachi died so naruto sasuke could get laid...
You're probably not going to read this, but I found Naruto's world building to not make sense. The Hyuga being an example of this.
What's the stated reason for the Hyuga Curse Mark?
To prevent other Villages from stealing and/or reverse engineering the Byakugan.
Okay, makes sense so far.
Who possesses the Hyuga Curse Mark?
A specific branch of the family, which we might call the "martial branch."
Okay, it still makes sense so far.
Which branches of the Hyuga family go on missions outside the Village?
Both.
What can happen during those missions?
The participating Hyuga can be killed and have their Byakugan stolen and/or reverse engineered.
So what have the Hyuga accomplished, in terms of protecting their Kekkai Genkai, by using the Hyuga Curse Mark in the way that they do?
Nothing. It makes no sense whatsoever.
The only way that Curse Mark makes sense is if its purpose was about control.
For example, let's say there was internal struggle within the Clan some time ago. That struggle might have led to a coup within the Clan. The ruling members of the family almost lost.
To ensure that never happened again, they invented the Hyuga Curse Mark. All surviving members of the coup, along with their direct descendents, were forced to have the Curse Mark placed upon them if they wanted to continue living.
As a further hedge against another coup attempt, this side of the family was denied the teaching of certain techniques. Techniques that would make the ruling branch much harder to defeat.
Now, it makes sense, but the reasons for the Curse Mark has completely changed.
In the end, after all that reincarnation and bloodline shit Neji proved to be right. He became very thing he knew he would, functionally achieving what as slave he expected to do for his masters, superficially masking it as "own decision". Naruto become what he expected to become, be given destiny of godlike entity, clearing every obstacle on his path, freeing him of impossible choices.
Looking back at earlier parts of show, when it yet wasn't complete mindless shonen crap, Neji could have been great character trough whose eyes we could look more into society of that fictional Universe with same problems as real world. But nah, Kishimoto couldn't write something complex even to save his life.
All that "work hard" in the end turned to nothing, cause everyone worked hard. Someone just got all the card one can be given to.
Was Nejuu right (Neji once a failure always a failure) lets ask series
Series: This show is about hard work can beat talent
Rock Lee most hard working guy in whole show: Failure
Naruto guy who did only 10 squads: Winner, Hero, Savior (plot conveniencening hypocrite)
The series was not about hard work beating talent. That was an ideology of a character who became irrelevant faster than anyone else. The whole series was about the the cycle of hatred which is present from the first arc with zabuza and Hakus upbringings to the last arc with the reincarnation cycle being the main contributor to the cycle of hatred.
Also, you'd have to ignore everything that happened to come to the conclusion that Naruto was a hypocrite
Neji wasn't right, to put it simply everything is indeed predestined true! but we as human cannot perceive what's in store for us. That leaves us with no choice but to try and see where live takes you. Which in a sense is free will. That's what made naruto who he is, he never gave up. He was always pushing himself to see where life takes him even when he was a nobody. Unaware of his powers and legacy.
Likewise, everybody is a nobody to begin with, but living enough to find out if you are something more than a nobody is clearly a choice thereby a free will.
I'd say it is definitely a will but I wouldn't go as far to say it is free.
Naruto knew of his powers and he was always hanging out with top tier shinobi. You seem to be speaking in a very abstract sense of destiny. Neji's story is one of literally being abused and threatened his whole life to make him conform. The saddest part is, he tried to rebel. Unfortunately, he wasn't as much of a genius as naruto and so he ultimately had to let Naruto fix his clan.
Neji was wrong no matter if he saved Hinata or not.
@@justincain2702 I get what you mean, afterall this is an anime and the MC always wins, but I gave my opinion from a general standpoint on how people can always make a choice to never give up or otherwise
And also naruto wasn't aware of his power from the start and he wasn't hanging around top tier shinobi when he was kid. what if he just chickened out and quit being a shinobi, never went to the academy and just sold ramen, or just run away because everyone hated him as a child. All of those could have made a easy target to kill even with nine tails inside him. Akatsuki would just rip nine tails off and leave him there to die. All that was very much possible if it isn't for Naruto's "choice" to never give up. Naruto was a lonely vulnerable child who made the choice to become the hokage, it was only his choice, free from destiny. It's not like all his battles/training arc/kurama arc happened with a press of button, it was purely his hardwork. Hanging out with top tier shinobi acted as a gateway to power, sure. But it was his hardwork and his motto to never give up is what drove him to that path. No top tier shinobi instilled that motto into him. That's who naruto was by his very nature. It's his motto that made him powerful, not shinobis or destiny or tailed beasts.
@@EF-wy3di it's the same will that made guy almost kill madara, let jiraya take on all the pains at once, made obito almost a god, kabuto into whatever he is lol and the list goes on. These are seemingly normal people as children without godly destinies driving them. But it's their choice/will to not give up made them so powerful. They could have never imagined the things they are capable of as children, but they kept going at it without losing hope and quit being a shinobi. That choice they all made is clearly free from destiny and very much a freewill imo
Neji always will be one of my absolute favorite characters. The Hyuga clan will always be badass in my eyes!!
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Long ago, Neji had always thought that destiny couldn't be changed. Then, everything changed when he lost to Naruto Uzumaki.
my goodness, you commented so much 😳
But ended up being right anyways
@@johnlynyrdmoron1135 Yeah when Naruto changed his destiny by saving Sasuke and ending the destined cycle of reincarnation, he proved Neji right ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
@@johnlynyrdmoron1135 Neji is flat out wrong, the narrative says his wrong, the story infact proves him wrong, but here we are goofy people trying to be different and claiming "neji was right"
Naruto saving Sasuke was fate. Its literally a possible task with an infinite amount of chances. Even Hasirama almost did it lol. It not happening was Never a possibility to begin with.