Trump, China, and the Geopolitics of a Crisis

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  • Recorded on April 1, 2020
    Stephen A. Kotkin is a professor of history at Princeton and a fellow at the Hoover Institution. Kotkin is one of the nation’s most compelling observers of foreign affairs, past and present, and is now working on the third and final volume of his definitive biography of Josef Stalin. From that perspective, Peter Robinson and Kotkin discuss Trump’s response to the COVID-19 crisis, Kotkin’s thoughts on the Chinese leadership class and the advantages they may seek to exploit, and which country-China or the United States-will come to represent the more successful or compelling model to other nations.
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  • @kkampy4052
    @kkampy4052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Peter Robinson is one of the best interviewers out there. Ask a question, wait for the answer to be complete, ask another question.

  • @creationevolution315
    @creationevolution315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    Competance and compassion, solidarity with trust. Sounds so wonderful.
    Now, who fragmented us? Who brought us identity politics? Who are the elites not held accountable?
    I am a black woman who was so relentlessly targeted with Anti Trump Propaganda, I got suspicious...and now, I am a proud American, not a bitter minority. I'm ready for a fresh start, to work hard, and get our country back!

  • @TalkernateHistory
    @TalkernateHistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I'm a simple man. I see Kotkin, I watch.

  • @R0yL33
    @R0yL33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    A pessimist by nature, yet he is hopeful of unifying the country. Unfortunately the enemy is within, and doing their best to keep us divided. It is easier to destroy than create.

  • @codex3048
    @codex3048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Kotkin has the most impressive bookshelves of any of the recent Covid-19 home interviews in the media. To the surprise of no one.

  • @Thomas_Geist
    @Thomas_Geist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I’ll provide my two answers to the question: Confucius and Confucius. Historically the Chinese put a much higher value on social conformity and equilibrium than any Western notion of freedom.

  • @sprezzatura8755
    @sprezzatura8755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Prof Kotkin is a breath of fresh air. A genuinely bright individual with no axe to grind. More please. Is it me or does he sound like Joe Pesci?

  • @ishanz8991
    @ishanz8991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    "In times like these I want Americans without hyphens." A lovely sentiment by Mr. Kotkin in a superb interview.

  • @kleenk8
    @kleenk8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +484

    If you close your eyes, you will believe that Joe Pesci has an enormous take on world affairs.

    • @matthewbaringer1486
      @matthewbaringer1486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are you the one who makes this comment ON EVERY TH-cam video of Kotkin?

    • @mikelezcurra810
      @mikelezcurra810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Joe Pesci should have done the audiobook narration of Mr Kotkin's Stalin books (which I highly recommend. Waiting for #3)

    • @mmtl9203
      @mmtl9203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL

    • @s37d
      @s37d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shit i was just going to post "he sounds like joe pesci", lol

    • @michaelcassella2423
      @michaelcassella2423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol - I was reading the comments first, then figured the guy must sound like Joe. He kinda does.

  • @pelicanbird901
    @pelicanbird901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Absolutely love your interviews Peter, and Professor Kotkin is always a special treat. Thank you.

  • @jjforcebreaker
    @jjforcebreaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Pandemic or not, Mr. Robinson always on duty.
    Not enough professor Kotkin on the channel, that's for sure.

  • @mateusmahumane8990
    @mateusmahumane8990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Why there's hyphenation for certain US racial groups: African-Americans, Asian-Americans, but there's no European-Americans. Why?

  • @risknerd1772
    @risknerd1772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    My wife, from another room, thought I was watching a Joe Pesci movie on Netflix.

    • @Stick3x
      @Stick3x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LMAO!!!

    • @Buddfox
      @Buddfox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RiskNerd 😏 with a much bigger IQ !!

    • @darrens.4322
      @darrens.4322 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or listening to Mark Levin.

    • @dmonarredmonarre3076
      @dmonarredmonarre3076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whoa, whoa, whoa. You trying to be funny?
      Funny how?

    • @thegeneralist7527
      @thegeneralist7527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the voice.

  • @marcoaslan
    @marcoaslan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could listen to Kotkin for hours

  • @outofthenorm7292
    @outofthenorm7292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Joe Pesci is a lot smarter than I thought.

    • @zachpauley7975
      @zachpauley7975 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny. Good one.

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude! Thanks for this joke! The best I've seen!!! You just boosted my immune system sooo much!!!

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm still laughing BTW!

    • @empoweredbyknowleged6141
      @empoweredbyknowleged6141 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree with you. The reason of studying the callaps of former Soviet Union is to identify how America separated the former Soviet. If you really want to learn about international politics, listen to Martin Jacques who is a political commentator from UK.

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had to come by again ... because I'm locked at home taking care of my elderly parents ... can't get the prescription to my SSRIs ... and then ... I remember your joke and it's all right!!!! hehehehe!!! Thanks!!!

  • @brianjoyce9742
    @brianjoyce9742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Luv this guy Peter. Great questions and his Joe Pesci speak make this a must watch

    • @ronnestman4696
      @ronnestman4696 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian Joyce spot on Joe Pesci observation. Lololol

    • @esmeevans1423
      @esmeevans1423 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Brian Joyce. I was trying to figure out who Stephen Kotkin sounded like - definitely like Joe Pesci - you were right on the money!

    • @darrens.4322
      @darrens.4322 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Pesci or Mark Levin speak.

  • @philipford6183
    @philipford6183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Thank you so much for this brilliant interview! Stephen Kotkin is such a fantastic speaker (I've seen your previous interviews with him, and some of his other lectures on YT), and Peter Robinson is a very gracious host. I only regret this discussion was so very short (at least it seemed that way!). Please have Mr. Kotkin back soon for a much longer discussion - so many quotable moments from him! I really appreciate his informed perspectives on China in these difficult times!

    • @EricAssaf
      @EricAssaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Philip Ford summarize it for me please

  • @chijen2010
    @chijen2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    How about some self-examination about why we have a so-called capitalist economy that requires a massive government funded bailout every 12 years?

  • @shubhamjaiswal9037
    @shubhamjaiswal9037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Stephen Kotkin is an intellectual.
    Rare Intellect engulfs him .
    Thanks Peter Robinson.

  • @Mrodriguez231
    @Mrodriguez231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Thank you HooverInstitution, for another great discussion.

  • @QuietJagung
    @QuietJagung 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This expert look at China from outside and probably sounds very smart but from inside China point of view will sound uninformed. He did not mention meritocracy system, Chinese characteristics and large poor population that still exist in rural China.

  • @lizhengcheng6915
    @lizhengcheng6915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Chinese I am fully amazed by professor Stephen A. Kotkin. If he could be the officer who in charge of Sino-USA relations, things would be much better. Liberty and cooperation.

  • @petesake1299
    @petesake1299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Excellent summation of the state of affairs and the western worlds predicament.

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Unaccountability of elites = Bill and Hilary. Stephen Kotkin is billiant. He is very analytical and seems able to distill complex issues into two or three salient bullet points. I think this was the best and most relevant interview Peter Robinson has ever done.

  • @johnberkshirerespector6449
    @johnberkshirerespector6449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can't wait for the third part of Stalins biography to come out

  • @Bargeonin
    @Bargeonin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Mr Kotkin's voice and phrasing sounds exactly like Joe Pesci.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is he a clown? Does he make you LAUGH?? YES!!!

    • @jaynehinds3339
      @jaynehinds3339 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bargeonin 👍👍👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😆❤️

    • @jaylinn416
      @jaylinn416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need a street guy like Stephen A. Kotkin to understand the Chinese Communist Party.

    • @Erichhh
      @Erichhh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, I was just coming here to write that!

    • @wilfredowen5172
      @wilfredowen5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're a funny guy.

  • @primitivaroots
    @primitivaroots 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great talk. I always learn here. Thanks.

  • @danapeck5382
    @danapeck5382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Always the most interesting educator to learn from. Eagerly awaiting Stalin book three.

  • @nicholashughes8214
    @nicholashughes8214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the next president of the US needs to talk to Professor Kotkin about their China policy His analysis and recommendations are right on

  • @rodrigolumi
    @rodrigolumi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome interview! Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @ronnestman4696
    @ronnestman4696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This guys an intellectual bad ass. Love the content of this channel!

  • @marksaulnier2222
    @marksaulnier2222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Another top shelf production from the Hoover institution. Thank you for this!

  • @christopherfenwick6705
    @christopherfenwick6705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wonderful interview, very insightful.

  • @sajateacher
    @sajateacher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wonder if he knows if “Khrushchev Remembers” is his authentic autobiography or not. Interesting book anyway.

  • @marydamians4586
    @marydamians4586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Brilliant man

  • @littlelulu5675
    @littlelulu5675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sadly it is never wise to talk with the devil. Even if you perceive him as smart

  • @stevenbrown9275
    @stevenbrown9275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting video. Thank you for posting it.

  • @jaydouglas8170
    @jaydouglas8170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This guy is pretty much describing the Democratic Party in the USA TODAY-!
    Party this, party that, party agendas at all costs.....

  • @yogiandbooboo7232
    @yogiandbooboo7232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Fascinating interview. Thank you for the enlightenment, gentlemen. 🐻

  • @TheHUPofHWC
    @TheHUPofHWC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    kotkin needs a few more books on his shelf. def not enough there.

  • @jostsangoku
    @jostsangoku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks to the hoover institution and to Peter Robinson, you sir are an amazing interviewer

  • @diskette
    @diskette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First!! Excellent and insightful as always

  • @8vI
    @8vI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Stephen needs to talk to the Chinese regime!

  • @chriss729
    @chriss729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Include Kotkins name in the title you’ll get more views

  • @ursulafuengerlings9136
    @ursulafuengerlings9136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding! Thank you.

  • @swmps
    @swmps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This Guy seems right to me. Wow he knows the wisdom behind the BS.

    • @swmps
      @swmps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is spot on

  • @matthewstokes1608
    @matthewstokes1608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fascinating... Thank you.

  • @koceilaayouni7278
    @koceilaayouni7278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    16:00 Pre-Reqs for growth during difficult economic and social unrest

  • @rustynutz4493
    @rustynutz4493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was playing cards and listening thinking this sounds like Joe Pesci then I look and it could be his brother ! LOL

  • @DavidMorley123
    @DavidMorley123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Always a pleasure to hear Kotkin's thinking.

  • @esimm595
    @esimm595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The comments on Kotkin's accent reflect our expectations that intellectuals and professors will have another accent. I know people who have changed their accents to the NPR accent to improve their job prospects.

  • @Drumsgoon
    @Drumsgoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Another great video. I really enjoy this way of interviewing, and Kotkin is great to listen to!

  • @jackychan8822
    @jackychan8822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was like hearing radio from 60s... old fashion cliche again and again

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When it comes to political parties is Kotkin talking about China or the USA?

  • @oculii1
    @oculii1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you Hoover Institution. Please keep up the wonderful work, more necessary than ever!

  • @phraarenpanyasampanno4743
    @phraarenpanyasampanno4743 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant! Thank you so much for this.

  • @MusicalMemeology
    @MusicalMemeology 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Intellectual Joe Pesci is my favourite guest on uncommon knowledge. He has an amazingly interesting and understandable way of explaining things.

  • @snuffysmith4058
    @snuffysmith4058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Work 💯

  • @shalvakochladze4169
    @shalvakochladze4169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting.

  • @kirkbowyer3249
    @kirkbowyer3249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Government is instituted to protect private property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is just government which impartially secures too every man, whatever is his own.” James Madison (Property; National Gazette, March 29, 1792)

  • @aprincess3966
    @aprincess3966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nations with democracy and human rights will survive...dictatorships with time will diminish even if it seems its economically expanded.

  • @VytisMaleckasBrunius76
    @VytisMaleckasBrunius76 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview! Thank you!

  • @sirdon9433
    @sirdon9433 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best economy?

  • @kirkbowyer3249
    @kirkbowyer3249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ecclesiasticus 10:08
    A Kingdom is translated from one people to another, because of injustices and wrongs and injuries and divers deceits.

  • @zebbocaster
    @zebbocaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really like him because he sounds like a very scholarly Joe Pesci.

    • @Stick3x
      @Stick3x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO!!!

  • @shenlaoshi7106
    @shenlaoshi7106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an insightful interview! Thank you.

  • @donstevens7847
    @donstevens7847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great conversation guys! Hey question, how do the ever growing Arab and Hispanic populations play into all of this?

  • @redcapetimetraveler7688
    @redcapetimetraveler7688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    25: 00 "social unity" but not "socialism" !! howevver "free stuffer" or not , you will not restore unity by paying peoples with words..if you don't invest money in the people with incomes or state's policies , your unity will just be rhetorical. people are not begging for "compassion" they ask their righteous dignity !

  • @kenbray2948
    @kenbray2948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic interview. Thank you

  • @zachstott8354
    @zachstott8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great discussion, thanks for providing it during the lockdown! Please keep it up

  • @truthbunny7089
    @truthbunny7089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo🙌

  • @Robgti180
    @Robgti180 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed that.

  • @TerrellMethvin
    @TerrellMethvin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What again another excellent interview thank you so much

  • @kevinreddington4251
    @kevinreddington4251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great interview with Joe Pesci.

  • @drgooshgoosh2419
    @drgooshgoosh2419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Reminds me of a brilliant Joe Pesci

  • @7701707
    @7701707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @kavehnadem2907
    @kavehnadem2907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is always instructive listening to Dr. Kotkin

  • @BillMcGirr
    @BillMcGirr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff.👍💪

  • @TheBriRu
    @TheBriRu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just like listening to this guy.

  • @bluecollarmark
    @bluecollarmark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oops, we were wrong, thanks for the headache we have to deal with.

  • @shesmypresident1637
    @shesmypresident1637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guy almost sounds like Joe Pesci in CASINO

  • @azsheri8
    @azsheri8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you honest intelligence!

  • @vvolfflovv
    @vvolfflovv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fascinating. I'm new here and can already tell this will be one of my favorite channels.
    I just don't know if I can agree with the notion that the US economy was great before the virus as it's success is leaning on record corporate and national debt and an unprecedented wealth gap. The majority of people were literally living paycheck to paycheck and other countries are even worse to do.

  • @antoniorsoftware
    @antoniorsoftware 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:25 How stupid and ignorant about history can one be and say that democracies like USA and UK are better at mass mobilization of resources "based on the events in WW2 and Cold War". Soviet Union was attacked directly with full force by Nazi Germany, the Eastern Front was the deadliest battlefield in HISTORY. USA and UK have never faced such a challenge and had such casualties during the war or after, nobody send millions of soldiers across their borders and killed millions of their people. Not only did the USSR manage to survive the attack, but it managed to rebuild itself and also beat USA with several achievements like sending first satellites and people to space and probes to another planet.

  • @KenArkane
    @KenArkane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FASCINATING!

  • @RaphaelCalvo
    @RaphaelCalvo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Interesting the two-dimensional analysis of the Leninistic structure x the Dogmatic principles of the Communist Party.
    Even though the communist "values" fade away the political structure is kept to impose order by force. A parallel of such analysis with physics can be established by stating that communism goes against the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics since it tries to reduce the System's entropy by force, spending energy and resources on this process.
    One additional stretch now from the physics realm into the political science realm is that someone has to pay for this energy and resources (inefficiency) spent by the system to keep the political structure and its projected power. Once China's stockpile of internal energy is depleted it will have to seek elsewhere for new sources in order to keep the system stable.
    The Belt and Road initiative might be their plan to keep their wheel turning... The illusion of this perpetual motion system depends on such initiative.

  • @picandvideo
    @picandvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old School!

  • @CrossedSabresCOD
    @CrossedSabresCOD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious to know what he thinks of unity in terms of uniting against a common enemy, just as this country did during the Cold War.

  • @justsaying9483
    @justsaying9483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bloody genius

  • @lllPlatinumlll
    @lllPlatinumlll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its amazing how no one remembers the winter war....only Barbarossa

  • @kaydoubleyou4316
    @kaydoubleyou4316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Joe Pesci and Mark Levin had a love child...haha. Kidding aside, excellent perspective!

  • @PheneticsCo
    @PheneticsCo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If he was president, we Americans would be in a radically different reality

  • @RyeinGoddard
    @RyeinGoddard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great conversation. This guy sounds like Joe Pesci. Love it.

  • @ProtectrLifenLiberty
    @ProtectrLifenLiberty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peter Robinson another of God's miracles your interviews in my view are only equalled by Dan Patrick Great Questions and allows the interviewee to answer . Thank You

  • @stevenshima1522
    @stevenshima1522 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Pesci gives a compelling story about the issue.

  • @billwilliams5265
    @billwilliams5265 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOD BL;ESS THESE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE i have aslways love the people in CANADA i do hope thast they are getting better.

  • @doloressverko9887
    @doloressverko9887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who are the Black Venetians (referring to the 11min mark and answer)?

  • @miketannenbaum8909
    @miketannenbaum8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant analysis.

  • @drnandakumarakvelu1581
    @drnandakumarakvelu1581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr,Peter I,salute tonn you and Prof,StepheA superb interview with an,analytical,prophet,,Thank you and Prof,Stephe

  • @bell1036
    @bell1036 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    its so intelligent. such a great talk.