include that a carrier is required for this method, otherwise it's far more effective to get 6k+ merits a run with the diso/orrere run for those of us without one...
I'll try that run and see if it is more or less per time... this run takes 5 jumps in a type 8 with 320.. could take 3 jumps in Mandalay giving 4600 merits per 80. If it take close to same time to do both diso and orrere then yes. But with carrier this is the fastest one. You have to ultimately look at merits per time. You can get more merits if you go pick up 3-4 or more rares.. but the added time to do that may lower reward per hour.
So basically you could also just fill your Carrier with lets say 20k tons of relics, travel to the sell system with your Carrier and haul the goods to station with T9/Cutter.
@@AtlasRandGaming Yeah, there would be no stress so just cruise assist from carrier to station and back... watch movie on the other screen. We Cmdr's are used to "long times" by now right? ^^
@@Sereish You could take a Cutter and just wait 10 min, and cruise to a carrier once per 90 minutes with a full cargo. But a productive way is to find two close systems with rare goods, so you can spend 5 mins of 10 jumping between stations, and to double your rate. This is sad though that a station does not have an escape pod to teleport to a carrier for a fast unload.
For me the Soontill Relics do the magic XD, In about 2 hours I fill my carrier with 1280 tons, sell it at 202ly, and for 50.6m credits of total gross (profit was 48m), get 48000+ merits, if I do the same with Orrere Vicious Brew I reduce the time a little since you can buy 128 at run instead of the 80 of the Relics, but at the same distance only get arround 23000 merits for the same 1280 tons, so gross profit matters a lot in this.
Sontil Relics spawn 80 every 10 minutes for a max of 480 per hour. So, 1280 would be 3 hours of collecting them. Also you should be getting 74,640 merits for 1280 at 202ly. So something is off.
@@AtlasRandGaming You are correct about the time, I miscalculated but it was less than 3 hours, and since I knew that the carrier jump times are around 1 hour, I programmed it for around 1000 units, so when it jumped I only had to wait about 10 minutes, which in total took me about 3 hours, 10 minutes more or less to load and unload the carrier. As for the variation in merits, again I'm not sure why it happened, since for me it was only 48,000 for those 1,280 units, the system was actually at 202ly and the profit was quite high, and it didn't vary much from the previous sale I made at 192ly, it only went up about 20cr per unit and a little over 100+ extra merit compared to when I tried at that distance, so for me it was practically the same, however since you say it should have been 74,000+ merits, could there be something else affecting this, maybe the power? Well, it was still a substantial increase with respect to the Orerre Vicious Brew, since with this one it did take me about 2 hours to load the 1280 units, but I only earned about 23,000 for them when selling at 204ly, in any case, there are still more variables that seem to affect this, not only sales distance, especially in the sales price, I think it has to be an issue of demand in the system, or the type of system in which it is sold, or some benefit from the powers (which the truth is I see them almost all the same, although I think there are some that benefit in the sale of goods, maybe this helps to increase the merits too), anyway, I already committed to Aisling and I have 127,000 merits, I'm too lazy to change and start from scratch, I'll leave the rest of the research to someone else, I think I'll jump to Pleiades to annihilate Thargoids for a while😅.
I would interest, what if to fill up a carrier with rare goods, and to park it near some stronghold, and ask .. let's say 1m/t .. How fast players will unload the carrier? =) That's about 16b for 100 levels. I think this is acceptable (what's about 760kk/h solo - if they will unload of course). PS I wonder how ED calculates a 200Ly distance for other players: from a rare good origin system, or from the fleet carrier?
This would not work as the price sold depends on far 'the player' not someone else brought them. So you can use your own carrier to bring them and unload yourself, but not for other people.
@@djkyroh 2 things. One is using a carrier to store the materials up in the same system and only taking a 200ly trip to sell once full. And two when I was doing this the limits were higher. The more people buy rare materials the price doesn’t change but the available amount is reduced per person.
I did a video on SCA... not on hotkey but you can put it into manual mode in which it ONLY kick in when you are at 75% throttle... so go slower, it shuts off, go faster, it shuts off... alsmost like a hotkey
I was doing trips with rare commodities from 3 stations that were in the near. Travel 200ly and sell. Each trip made me 6350 merits.... calculated how many trips would be needed until the first module. It was something like 35 trips of around 25 minutes .... quit the game and uninstalled... 🤣🤣🤣. The grind is like a full-time job
Feels a bit like the “rest of the owl” leaving the carrier part out of the video. But, it’s all good, it’s a helpful video. I’m just mad I don’t got a carrier yet…
include that a carrier is required for this method, otherwise it's far more effective to get 6k+ merits a run with the diso/orrere run for those of us without one...
I'll try that run and see if it is more or less per time... this run takes 5 jumps in a type 8 with 320.. could take 3 jumps in Mandalay giving 4600 merits per 80. If it take close to same time to do both diso and orrere then yes. But with carrier this is the fastest one. You have to ultimately look at merits per time. You can get more merits if you go pick up 3-4 or more rares.. but the added time to do that may lower reward per hour.
Just did a test of your suggestion... 6.1 mil merits took 24min. Watch for a post of the video shortly.
So basically you could also just fill your Carrier with lets say 20k tons of relics, travel to the sell system with your Carrier and haul the goods to station with T9/Cutter.
Exactly. But keep in mind station only puts out 480 tons per hour. So gettting to full carrier would take a long time
@@AtlasRandGaming Yeah, there would be no stress so just cruise assist from carrier to station and back... watch movie on the other screen. We Cmdr's are used to "long times" by now right? ^^
@@Sereish You could take a Cutter and just wait 10 min, and cruise to a carrier once per 90 minutes with a full cargo. But a productive way is to find two close systems with rare goods, so you can spend 5 mins of 10 jumping between stations, and to double your rate. This is sad though that a station does not have an escape pod to teleport to a carrier for a fast unload.
looks like this one is only one not nerfed other two (Diso, Orrere) are you can only buy 30 ish of each of them
Quick and easy, I am puking.
For me the Soontill Relics do the magic XD, In about 2 hours I fill my carrier with 1280 tons, sell it at 202ly, and for 50.6m credits of total gross (profit was 48m), get 48000+ merits, if I do the same with Orrere Vicious Brew I reduce the time a little since you can buy 128 at run instead of the 80 of the Relics, but at the same distance only get arround 23000 merits for the same 1280 tons, so gross profit matters a lot in this.
Sontil Relics spawn 80 every 10 minutes for a max of 480 per hour. So, 1280 would be 3 hours of collecting them. Also you should be getting 74,640 merits for 1280 at 202ly. So something is off.
@@AtlasRandGaming You are correct about the time, I miscalculated but it was less than 3 hours, and since I knew that the carrier jump times are around 1 hour, I programmed it for around 1000 units, so when it jumped I only had to wait about 10 minutes, which in total took me about 3 hours, 10 minutes more or less to load and unload the carrier.
As for the variation in merits, again I'm not sure why it happened, since for me it was only 48,000 for those 1,280 units, the system was actually at 202ly and the profit was quite high, and it didn't vary much from the previous sale I made at 192ly, it only went up about 20cr per unit and a little over 100+ extra merit compared to when I tried at that distance, so for me it was practically the same, however since you say it should have been 74,000+ merits, could there be something else affecting this, maybe the power?
Well, it was still a substantial increase with respect to the Orerre Vicious Brew, since with this one it did take me about 2 hours to load the 1280 units, but I only earned about 23,000 for them when selling at 204ly, in any case, there are still more variables that seem to affect this, not only sales distance, especially in the sales price, I think it has to be an issue of demand in the system, or the type of system in which it is sold, or some benefit from the powers (which the truth is I see them almost all the same, although I think there are some that benefit in the sale of goods, maybe this helps to increase the merits too), anyway, I already committed to Aisling and I have 127,000 merits, I'm too lazy to change and start from scratch, I'll leave the rest of the research to someone else, I think I'll jump to Pleiades to annihilate Thargoids for a while😅.
@ sucks that Aisling no longer gives a bonus to o thargoids kills bonds.
@@AtlasRandGaming Totally😢
Diso and Orrere system supply nerfed.
The 200LY thing may be linked to basic rare good trading. You don't make more credits selling rares at locations further than 160LY.
I tested that and I do. But to each his own.
1- you could have gone to 4 secs
2- supercruise assist, had saved you from overshooting^^
3- thanks for that video
I would interest, what if to fill up a carrier with rare goods, and to park it near some stronghold, and ask .. let's say 1m/t .. How fast players will unload the carrier? =) That's about 16b for 100 levels. I think this is acceptable (what's about 760kk/h solo - if they will unload of course).
PS I wonder how ED calculates a 200Ly distance for other players: from a rare good origin system, or from the fleet carrier?
This would not work as the price sold depends on far 'the player' not someone else brought them. So you can use your own carrier to bring them and unload yourself, but not for other people.
@@AtlasRandGaming That would be not fair (
do the merits earned offset the lower quantity of rare goods compared to loading your carrier at orrere/diso?
I think so for carriers.. may not for solo players.
How are you getting a full hull I can only get 34
@@djkyroh 2 things. One is using a carrier to store the materials up in the same system and only taking a 200ly trip to sell once full. And two when I was doing this the limits were higher. The more people buy rare materials the price doesn’t change but the available amount is reduced per person.
@ Well, shit. I dont have a carrier
Hang on, do you have cruise assist on a hotkey? Can you do that? I have always had to go to the left menu to activate it.
I did a video on SCA... not on hotkey but you can put it into manual mode in which it ONLY kick in when you are at 75% throttle... so go slower, it shuts off, go faster, it shuts off... alsmost like a hotkey
@@AtlasRandGaming is the manual mode a setting in the menu? (not at my pc right now)
C'est encore d'actualité cette technique ou ça été nerf?
Pas nerfé, mais oui, les quantités sont plus faibles pour l'instant.
How did u fill up the cargo if station only sells 80 Soontill Relics??
@@999Fuzo I have a carrier
The real question… I’m guessing a carrier?
I was doing trips with rare commodities from 3 stations that were in the near. Travel 200ly and sell. Each trip made me 6350 merits.... calculated how many trips would be needed until the first module. It was something like 35 trips of around 25 minutes .... quit the game and uninstalled... 🤣🤣🤣. The grind is like a full-time job
Feels a bit like the “rest of the owl” leaving the carrier part out of the video. But, it’s all good, it’s a helpful video. I’m just mad I don’t got a carrier yet…
@ just divide the amount by 4 and you get 1/4 of the payout. The proportions are all same
The costs of purchase seems to affect the merits received
It's the sell price that matters, so: buy price + profit = sell price. So higher buy price give more merits, in addition to profit ofc.
Ngurii down to 16 from 80
Yes that sucks.... I was there till it went down.