Just the simple fact that our cells and our DNA are in constant Decay because of carbon-14 should make everybody consider protein being their number one target like it is mine. I don't count calories, I eat mostly meat and select vegetables and I cycle in carbohydrates around heavier training days and speed days which can be seen as power training or plyometric training
I need some clarification. I’ve now seen 3 highly regarded dietitians/nutritionists recently citing studies that claim we are significantly over consuming on Protein. Their explanation is the body can only use so much, and anything above this threshold cannot be stored anywhere in the body and therefore the extra protein gets turned into and stored as additional carbs/glycogen; which isn’t what we want. Their protein recommendations are that we shouldn’t be consuming anymore than 0.8 grams per KILO, not per Pounds, per Kilo. So for an average 80kg person that equates to just 64g of protein per day!… I struggle to believe this as it seems way too low considering the “high protein is better” narrative we constantly see online. I’m 74kg and workout 4 days a week and have been for years eating around 160-180g of protein per day so I’m struggling to believe that I need to lower my protein to just 60g per day. Would love to know what you think on this as I just can’t ascertain what info to believe considering both ends are supported by clinical studies.
I think interpretation here is important. We are - perhaps - over consuming on protein when the goal is what the average person can utilize for muscle gain/maintenance. There are a lot of things here that can affect this i.e. training, genetics and lifestyle. What this means is that most people who don't eat weird, who don't train for muscle mass and who has a lifestyle that is normal - they will most likely not have any benefits in muscle mass with a high protein diet. Now, no one is talking about the positive effects of a high protein diet for overweight individuals, for resistance training, genetically abnormal/gifted individuals, cell improvements in bones, organs, enzymes, ATP, skin etc. as well as effects on cravings or gaining muscle mass when doing resistance training. And what about the non-normal individuals? - I'm pretty sure they screened for and then removed abnormal individuals from the studies - which really isn't uncommon. There's a LOT of things that studies don't go in to and focusing on only one thing to the exclusion of all else, usually shows a skewed picture that is out of context. Or the interpretations take the results out of context and these interpretations are then parroted incorrectly. Just like the study that high-protein diets destroy your kidneys. This study was mis-interpreted and parroted even amongst medical professionals. There's a lot of this non-factual "factual" information floating around. Realistically, there will be deviations between each individual and there really is no 1-size-fits-all solution.
It isn’t just meat vs plants vs calories or whatever. Lifestyle. What you eat, how much of it, and what you do. Michael Phelps was famous for the volume of food he ate- including junk. But he was burning it off. Novak Djokovic eats a very clean, near vegetarian higher carb diet. Again, he burns it off. My personal trainer eats a high protein diet, not many carbs, and no junk. She’s strong and looks amazing.
I read somewhere that in the blue zones it's not what they're eating. It's what they aren't eating. Processed foods and copious amounts of sugar. Makes sense to me.
Trial and error are extremely important. I used to consume carbs almost every day, even days I would go running which is once or twice a week, but I noticed I would over-consume so what I started to do was to have carbs the day before training my legs and the day of training my legs, none on the recovery day, yet the day after would be a torso power training day so I would have carbs at the end of the day since the next morning would be training legs for power, also having carbs that day but at the end of the day, and then Thursday is when I do my recovery work which is rotational training and going running, and then Friday I would be training strength for my torso and not having carbs again until Saturday which is what started this listing to begin with. I mostly eat meat and select vegetables, I do like to cycle in rice potatoes and certain noodles and our bodies of course love to burn glycogen for energy yet you can still get the body to utilize oxygen more than anything so that you can keep that sugar in your muscles for when you lift heavy. That's why I don't consume carbs the days I go running anymore because I enjoy utilizing oxygen the entire day while having enough protein to rebuild not just my muscles but my cells and my DNA. Thanks for pinning my comment during the livestream!
Yesterday was my leg day for strength, so what did I eat today hahaha 8 boiled eggs six asparagus spears and a small can of mushrooms for breakfast and roughly 1 lb of turkey breast that I cooked yesterday for lunch. I did use a little bit of barbecue sauce to maintain moisture in the thermos but I'm not going to count that as eating carbohydrates
Protein is not more satiating than fat, that’s for sure. Have you ever tried eating just lean protein on its own? If you have you’d realise that you can eat a S**t load of it and still feel hungry and very quickly after. What you really need is fat with protein, meaning fatty meat cuts. The other reason eating junk food causes people to eat more and feel more hungry is because of 1. insulin spiking, 2. low in nutrients(as in low in vitamins, minerals & essential fatty acids) and 3. ultra processed foods all have flavour enhancers to send fireworks off in your brain to make you addicted to eating it. People forget we don’t eat food for calories, we eat food to get nutrients to build, repair and maintain a healthy body. It’s also the bioavailability of those nutrients in those foods we need. The most nutrient bioavailable food comes from meat, most easily absorbed and extracted form in our body.
Someone should do a study of those with and without smart phones… people hate my stance on not needing a smart phone. The predominant advice given on phones is usually wrong advice, someone should let Peterson know that, whoever he is. I know how to do many things… I chock my ongoing education on everything to 50 years ago reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance and book of Sirach.
Can you talk more on the specific amino acids needed? Isn't the limiting factor one's ability to break proteins into amino acids? Are there pre-digested protein supplements ( amino acids ) available?
I've noticed a big difference in feeling good/balanced energy if I don't eat red meat for my daily protein intake.... In other words if I get my daily protein from other non red meats I don't feel as well balanced energy... is that due to creatine or b12 differences? Have new notified that too Mike? Thank you for all you do!!!
I also noticed this and think it's because beef is fattier than chicken, pork, fish, etc... I noticed I feel best energy after fatty cuts like ribeye than lean cuts like sirloin.
@@andrewbellinger6120 I feel better eating high fat/protein meats. Knowing fish & chicken are lower I no longer eat them without each other. Also, I like the variety.
True, I eat a ton of carbs and want to eat again in hours and I eat modest amount of meat and I don't feel much hunger till next day even if I skipped dinner completely.
Surely over eating calories is the main reason? As for LOW protein as a %, 10 % sounds low, so if you're getting 11%™all is good? POV, Find what BEST suits YOU.
I crave protein when I est it a lot. I'm a carnivore. I need fat with it. However my triglycerides and a1 has gone up since I started 1 year ago. I don't crave carbs, only meat and fat but it doesn't satiate me. What do you think about this?
Research triglycerides & cholesterol more. The science is in. We've been led down a path of misinformation about what the true dangers that cause hypertension & heart disease are actually caused by. The American Heart Association & The American Diabetes Association have been too greatly influenced by the money from food producers/corporations. The dietary recommendations from these organizations is inverse to what is healthy for any average person--as we can see from the average American, even "young & healthy" ones. High cholesterol and high triglycerides is not necessarily a bad thing. Make sure you are not eating seed oils & make sure you are eating at least 180 mcg of MK-7 to maintain bonded density & prevent arteriosclerosis.
@doddsalfa just start researching them and you'll uncover it all. Ie you tube food tour around okinawa, (read the comments section to),okinawa pig population pre war and after war, Paul Saladino you tube, google sardinia shephards diet etc Also you can look at Hong Kong high meat intake and high longevity
@@P_Petkov nobody has claim "no meat" but little meat thats a fact.But rather go to the sevent day adventist vegan they are the longest living people on the planet
Did the study compare protein from animals vs. plants? Can you eat a high protein plant based diet? Do you have to eat animal protein in large amounts?
The issue with trying to get high protein esting plants is you end up.consuming high carbs and high calorie by trying to get the proteins. And then arent measured gram for gram as many things are less than 50% absorbed. Then as well eating more.plants, younhave more of the antibutrients working against you at every meal. Eggs can help a vegetarian and plain greek yogurt as well. Id suggest readi g the book my ted naimab that he alluded to and he has videos explaining this as well. Edit: define large amount? Everyone varies in approach, qre different sizes and bodybuilders require.more. if you dont eat a lot of meat, it may also seem like a lot just by increasing it. 10-20% of calories from meat is pretty standard in a ketogenic diet, and 30% if youre straight carnivore. On my plate, i eat ketogenic so meat is always half to 1/3 of my.plate, but i also eat one meal a day. It would still be a smaller plate of half meat if i eate two meals otherwise I wont reach my.goals for.my size (5'5). I have jaw problems and have a musculoskeletal.disorder so i have to focus carefully on protein. Good on you for considering as most peoppe dont even think about how little they eat. Seafoods, chicken and turkey are lean, but taste good with butter to increase fat content and may be easier to eat if not used to red meat. Red.meat has lots.of.nutrients. Some eat eggs at every meal, or add eggs and bacon to get.more fat in a lean meal.like chicken breast. The focus is ENOUGH protein of what you need and ensuring you absorb it and enough for your age, if sedentary vs athletic, medical issues. Cheers
Bryan Johnson Blueprint, Ai will soon take the guess work out of it and all gurus and snake oil salesmen will soon be gone. Don't die, see you in 2500.
How can you make a video like this... is this just conformation bias at it's fullest? I mean you can read about 10s of thousands of people all over the world eating low protein high carb and they don't get fat. Do you purposely only read things that agree with you? Jesus dude you've had your channel for a while I honestly thought you would have figured it out by now.
Would love to hear the information but the wind sucking breathing is way too much for me every third word you're sucking in air you might want to get your lungs checked
Just the simple fact that our cells and our DNA are in constant Decay because of carbon-14 should make everybody consider protein being their number one target like it is mine. I don't count calories, I eat mostly meat and select vegetables and I cycle in carbohydrates around heavier training days and speed days which can be seen as power training or plyometric training
Exactly. Protein is king.
I need some clarification. I’ve now seen 3 highly regarded dietitians/nutritionists recently citing studies that claim we are significantly over consuming on Protein.
Their explanation is the body can only use so much, and anything above this threshold cannot be stored anywhere in the body and therefore the extra protein gets turned into and stored as additional carbs/glycogen; which isn’t what we want.
Their protein recommendations are that we shouldn’t be consuming anymore than 0.8 grams per KILO, not per Pounds, per Kilo. So for an average 80kg person that equates to just 64g of protein per day!… I struggle to believe this as it seems way too low considering the “high protein is better” narrative we constantly see online.
I’m 74kg and workout 4 days a week and have been for years eating around 160-180g of protein per day so I’m struggling to believe that I need to lower my protein to just 60g per day.
Would love to know what you think on this as I just can’t ascertain what info to believe considering both ends are supported by clinical studies.
How is your body composition?
I think interpretation here is important. We are - perhaps - over consuming on protein when the goal is what the average person can utilize for muscle gain/maintenance. There are a lot of things here that can affect this i.e. training, genetics and lifestyle. What this means is that most people who don't eat weird, who don't train for muscle mass and who has a lifestyle that is normal - they will most likely not have any benefits in muscle mass with a high protein diet.
Now, no one is talking about the positive effects of a high protein diet for overweight individuals, for resistance training, genetically abnormal/gifted individuals, cell improvements in bones, organs, enzymes, ATP, skin etc. as well as effects on cravings or gaining muscle mass when doing resistance training. And what about the non-normal individuals? - I'm pretty sure they screened for and then removed abnormal individuals from the studies - which really isn't uncommon. There's a LOT of things that studies don't go in to and focusing on only one thing to the exclusion of all else, usually shows a skewed picture that is out of context. Or the interpretations take the results out of context and these interpretations are then parroted incorrectly. Just like the study that high-protein diets destroy your kidneys. This study was mis-interpreted and parroted even amongst medical professionals. There's a lot of this non-factual "factual" information floating around.
Realistically, there will be deviations between each individual and there really is no 1-size-fits-all solution.
From Knoxville Tn. I watch every video you post. Thanks for your help.
It isn’t just meat vs plants vs calories or whatever. Lifestyle. What you eat, how much of it, and what you do.
Michael Phelps was famous for the volume of food he ate- including junk. But he was burning it off. Novak Djokovic eats a very clean, near vegetarian higher carb diet. Again, he burns it off.
My personal trainer eats a high protein diet, not many carbs, and no junk. She’s strong and looks amazing.
I read somewhere that in the blue zones it's not what they're eating. It's what they aren't eating. Processed foods and copious amounts of sugar. Makes sense to me.
Trial and error are extremely important. I used to consume carbs almost every day, even days I would go running which is once or twice a week, but I noticed I would over-consume so what I started to do was to have carbs the day before training my legs and the day of training my legs, none on the recovery day, yet the day after would be a torso power training day so I would have carbs at the end of the day since the next morning would be training legs for power, also having carbs that day but at the end of the day, and then Thursday is when I do my recovery work which is rotational training and going running, and then Friday I would be training strength for my torso and not having carbs again until Saturday which is what started this listing to begin with. I mostly eat meat and select vegetables, I do like to cycle in rice potatoes and certain noodles and our bodies of course love to burn glycogen for energy yet you can still get the body to utilize oxygen more than anything so that you can keep that sugar in your muscles for when you lift heavy. That's why I don't consume carbs the days I go running anymore because I enjoy utilizing oxygen the entire day while having enough protein to rebuild not just my muscles but my cells and my DNA. Thanks for pinning my comment during the livestream!
Yesterday was my leg day for strength, so what did I eat today hahaha 8 boiled eggs six asparagus spears and a small can of mushrooms for breakfast and roughly 1 lb of turkey breast that I cooked yesterday for lunch. I did use a little bit of barbecue sauce to maintain moisture in the thermos but I'm not going to count that as eating carbohydrates
Very good.
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Protein is a bit like vitamin D......you hear more about taking too much when for most people the problem is actually not consuming enough.
Low protein, high carb, low fat diat reduce weight according of studies.
Protein is not more satiating than fat, that’s for sure. Have you ever tried eating just lean protein on its own? If you have you’d realise that you can eat a S**t load of it and still feel hungry and very quickly after. What you really need is fat with protein, meaning fatty meat cuts. The other reason eating junk food causes people to eat more and feel more hungry is because of 1. insulin spiking, 2. low in nutrients(as in low in vitamins, minerals & essential fatty acids) and 3. ultra processed foods all have flavour enhancers to send fireworks off in your brain to make you addicted to eating it.
People forget we don’t eat food for calories, we eat food to get nutrients to build, repair and maintain a healthy body. It’s also the bioavailability of those nutrients in those foods we need. The most nutrient bioavailable food comes from meat, most easily absorbed and extracted form in our body.
Someone should do a study of those with and without smart phones… people hate my stance on not needing a smart phone. The predominant advice given on phones is usually wrong advice, someone should let Peterson know that, whoever he is. I know how to do many things… I chock my ongoing education on everything to 50 years ago reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance and book of Sirach.
Great content. Thank you 😊
Its the protein. Im glad you figured it out.
Can you talk more on the specific amino acids needed? Isn't the limiting factor one's ability to break proteins into amino acids? Are there pre-digested protein supplements ( amino acids ) available?
Can you do a video for the world explaining the Randle Cycle and how it affects fat storage/fat usage as fuel.
I never hear this mentioned in context with soy, but it contains a lot of Trypsin inhibitors. bad for digestion of protein.
I've noticed a big difference in feeling good/balanced energy if I don't eat red meat for my daily protein intake.... In other words if I get my daily protein from other non red meats I don't feel as well balanced energy... is that due to creatine or b12 differences? Have new notified that too Mike? Thank you for all you do!!!
I also noticed this and think it's because beef is fattier than chicken, pork, fish, etc...
I noticed I feel best energy after fatty cuts like ribeye than lean cuts like sirloin.
@@andrewbellinger6120 I feel better eating high fat/protein meats. Knowing fish & chicken are lower I no longer eat them without each other. Also, I like the variety.
Yea too much fat or carbs clog the arteries. You want a higher protein than energy ratio.
True, I eat a ton of carbs and want to eat again in hours and I eat modest amount of meat and I don't feel much hunger till next day even if I skipped dinner completely.
High protein High Carb is what our bodies need. Our bodies have a hunger for both.
All carbs, but especially simple carbs, jack Dopamine to the moon. So you add food addiction to the mix! A very difficult hurdle to overcome!
Absolutelty, when I tried low protein...I craved high carbs/ sugary treats.
a very high protein breakfast almost first thing in the morning
Do a video on gelatin
Surely over eating calories is the main reason?
As for LOW protein as a %, 10 % sounds low, so if you're getting 11%™all is good?
POV, Find what BEST suits YOU.
I crave protein when I est it a lot. I'm a carnivore. I need fat with it. However my triglycerides and a1 has gone up since I started 1 year ago. I don't crave carbs, only meat and fat but it doesn't satiate me. What do you think about this?
Reduce fat
Research triglycerides & cholesterol more.
The science is in. We've been led down a path of misinformation about what the true dangers that cause hypertension & heart disease are actually caused by. The American Heart Association & The American Diabetes Association have been too greatly influenced by the money from food producers/corporations. The dietary recommendations from these organizations is inverse to what is healthy for any average person--as we can see from the average American, even "young & healthy" ones.
High cholesterol and high triglycerides is not necessarily a bad thing. Make sure you are not eating seed oils & make sure you are eating at least 180 mcg of MK-7 to maintain bonded density & prevent arteriosclerosis.
The blue zone documentary has been debunked many times over.
Yep. Example. Sardinia shephards had the long longevity and averaged 46g of animal FAT daily.
Where?
@doddsalfa just start researching them and you'll uncover it all. Ie you tube food tour around okinawa, (read the comments section to),okinawa pig population pre war and after war, Paul Saladino you tube, google sardinia shephards diet etc
Also you can look at Hong Kong high meat intake and high longevity
To clarify, it's the no meat that's been debunked not the longevity party.
@@P_Petkov nobody has claim "no meat" but little meat thats a fact.But rather go to the sevent day adventist vegan they are the longest living people on the planet
Did the study compare protein from animals vs. plants? Can you eat a high protein plant based diet? Do you have to eat animal protein in large amounts?
The issue with trying to get high protein esting plants is you end up.consuming high carbs and high calorie by trying to get the proteins. And then arent measured gram for gram as many things are less than 50% absorbed. Then as well eating more.plants, younhave more of the antibutrients working against you at every meal. Eggs can help a vegetarian and plain greek yogurt as well. Id suggest readi g the book my ted naimab that he alluded to and he has videos explaining this as well. Edit: define large amount? Everyone varies in approach, qre different sizes and bodybuilders require.more. if you dont eat a lot of meat, it may also seem like a lot just by increasing it. 10-20% of calories from meat is pretty standard in a ketogenic diet, and 30% if youre straight carnivore. On my plate, i eat ketogenic so meat is always half to 1/3 of my.plate, but i also eat one meal a day. It would still be a smaller plate of half meat if i eate two meals otherwise I wont reach my.goals for.my size (5'5). I have jaw problems and have a musculoskeletal.disorder so i have to focus carefully on protein. Good on you for considering as most peoppe dont even think about how little they eat. Seafoods, chicken and turkey are lean, but taste good with butter to increase fat content and may be easier to eat if not used to red meat. Red.meat has lots.of.nutrients.
Some eat eggs at every meal, or add eggs and bacon to get.more fat in a lean meal.like chicken breast. The focus is ENOUGH protein of what you need and ensuring you absorb it and enough for your age, if sedentary vs athletic, medical issues. Cheers
@@dana102083 Thank you for the explanation.
Time stamps bro
What do you think of eating a high protein diet before bedtime to avoid catabolism overnight?
The amount of catabolism is negligible. No need to worry about it.
Anytime you get hungry you need to eat some protein along with carbs
If plant based ,absolutely not fattening .
you need to interviwe dr ted naiman he is the best
I thought having chronically high insulin levels promote fat gain and obesity. 🧐
Meet your protein and potassium requirements and the ceavings for carbs will go away.
Bryan Johnson Blueprint, Ai will soon take the guess work out of it and all gurus and snake oil salesmen will soon be gone. Don't die, see you in 2500.
How can you make a video like this... is this just conformation bias at it's fullest? I mean you can read about 10s of thousands of people all over the world eating low protein high carb and they don't get fat. Do you purposely only read things that agree with you?
Jesus dude you've had your channel for a while I honestly thought you would have figured it out by now.
Blue zones 😂
Hiding of dissenting opinions on youtube and WHO!!
Would love to hear the information but the wind sucking breathing is way too much for me every third word you're sucking in air you might want to get your lungs checked
You mean every twenty words, and besides, people have to breathe. Are you an alien?
I agree, he needs to slow down and breathe easier.