Nice to see ya back, feel like ages. I actually like the helmet I looks like the stepping stone between the mk 5 and the hilarious discountued wolfs head helmets. A nod to never forget the horrors of the past.
This is a more minor thing, but can one of the hobby veterans tell me about space marine hair? What I mean is a lot of the new loyalist horus heresy space marines seem to have… modern(?) hair, including this guy. Were they always like that or is that a more recent thing?
It sort of varies, for as long as I remember (stretching back to early 2000) blood angels have had the 90s pretty boy hairstyle with the heart shaped bangs. But bald or short mohawk seems to be the most common throughout.
in old days everyone was bare head with no beards aswell, a neat style. space wolves were the first to look like fantasy slayers and beards are nordic i guess... blood angels needed fresh hair to be more pretty, well it works. after that hair was used to bring more character in. my guess is, that marines first were meant to cut their hair, in power armour and war its the reasonable thing to do. than was fuck reason, we dont want to look everyone the same, hair was invented because why should one fight without his helmet on, so we can have hair aswell in that case. there are probably many lore hints in the books of how this is seen by the marines themselfes, but the books arent considered hard canon so writers can do whatever they want without major retcon issues. well i guess you can make up any explanation you want. if it looks better than its dumb, it will get a pass.
This is just in relation to what they can do with plastic I think. This guy's face actually looks really good imo including the hair. Hair used to look terrible if you look at the old grey hunters for 40k. I definitely think they add it more because they can actually use it now.
I generally like it, but I don't love the helmet. I get what they were going for, but the angular visor makes it look very similar to some third-party not-Space Marine minis I've seen online. But that bare head is one of GW's best. Why is that not the standard they're aiming for? Maybe because it's in resin, I guess.
I have a feeling that GW might be sort of trying to get ahead of the market, by making characters whose armor looks nothing like any established mark. If there's 5 marks of armour, any 3rd party designs that differ from those 5 are fine. If there's characters in all kinds of bs armour types, GW can feel entitled to claim 3rd party designs as they have details "similar enough to that one model we have"
My only gripe with this model is that he’ll be about 30 quid like the rest of them. I honestly don’t get how or why people are happy to pay that for a single model of this size. It’s a single marine.
Hm, nice looking model, would look great as a wrath-hound...medicine man/shaman/witch doctor(whichever is the correct term), with just a few modifications(I'd change the wolf skull on the staff, add "ears" to the helmet as-is), i can already see him decked in black, orange and a bit of gold(with red painted carvings) plus some blue to denote the role(even his helmetless head would work). It's not just tactical rock, there's also tactical corpse(see 10ed terminator captain), tactical rubble(see eidolon), tactical wreck(see peter turbo, cough, perturabo, sry). Funny that you mention rapiers for emperor's children, rapier and dagger combo would/does work really well for them, and/or any potential loyalist successors of theirs. I'd put symbol on just these 3 spots - chest and a shoulder(left or right), and belt if needed, usually is not, ultramarine guy, decked out in toilet lids :P Speaking of night lord winglets, huh, sounds like I chose well to use winglet-shaped antenna for my homebrew instead (that is, a hood could be used without the antenna snagging on it). From my understanding, models have both oversized heads/helmets AND weapons to be easier to paint, thus we agree on the size needing some trimming. Lastly, idk chief, those IC helmets look like shit to me, perhaps with a right model and good paintjob they'd be better, to me at least.
One model. 30 min vid. Gonna be a banger. Having you dissect this entire list without at least one character for each Legion at this point is a travesty. World Eaters are a true shame.
I think zephons use if rubble is better than just tactical Rock makes it look like he’s in the air moving forwards without the wired transparent easy to brake stand though personally I like jungle bases instead
None of them look like the era they're meant to be. I genuinely just thought that was a 40k model but then I realized they're replacing every single character and space marine that isn't already chaos into primaris.
I already have old white metal Njall Stormcaller as my rune priest but this model is nice do I will probably get one. I have simmilar thoughts about the helmet. Its weird.
I like the helmet, only thing on the model that actually is kind of mark V. Torso and loincloth is fine. Shoulder pads are fit the model even if they're mark III. Staff and axe are looking pretty good but I still need to see them raw since they look pretty thick. Overall a solid model and would have been the best HQ in Space Wolves if it was on the real space marine scale and was handsculpted.
@@MrConna6 Sou you understood that by mark V I meant production mark V that had been sold in the FW store as Mark V Heresy armour and still you went "Erhm achtually it has different parts so it's lore mark V". Don't You Feel Silly? Don't You Feel Stupid?
Personally I like it a lot, almost everything is a win for me. I do not like the helmet, looks too much like a stormtroopers, but that's an easy swap. I wonder if new MKV will look like this.
I do draw a huge distinction between a model that uses the terrain on the base to enhance the pose and attitude and dynamism of the model and an unnecessary addition to the base. New character just uses the rock to raise a knee so it doesn't appear to be standing still. Unnecessary. People do stand still rather than putting one foot on a rock. Evander Garrius: Excellent use of a "tactical rock" to add motion and fluidity to a model mid-combat. Well executed. Does it make the character stand out? Does it match what the character is supposed to be doing? Also: Remember that the flip side of never using the basing to tell a story or enhance the pose or make the model appear more dynamic would be boring for the opposite reason. (I know that is not what you are saying here, but it is something to consider.) I would liken basing on miniatures to seasoning on food. Never use none. Try not to use too much. Don't use the exact same or rotate through just two or three favourites every time. Samey becomes boring. Tasteful execution is the key.
To me the new design philosophy of heresy sculpts is just so, sterile? Maybe it’s the paint jobs, but it doesn’t feel like the same range anymore. Also the pose reminds me of the saboteur, legion champion and death guard power armour preator. The reusing of wireframes our whatever cad stuff is getting really really obvious now. All of the new redesigns of everything just feel so gross to me. Only exception I’d make is mk iv. It looks so far to be getting a glow up and I’m excited for what they do with the kit. Hopefully they don’t fuck up the bolter knees and helmet like they did with mkiii
This helmet is a straight copy of a Star Wars Storm Trooper helmet. How can the Design crew become so creatively bankrupt to not see it and sign it up for fab ?
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Massive miss for me. Doesn't look like 30K at all. You say it's a good use of MkV armour... is it MkV? It's just "almost like Space Marine armour but different".
MKV is any mixed armour suit, here you have: Mkiv/vi artificed leg armour Mkii torso with artificed belt An Mkv head either from fenris or artificed (its similar to some ooold art) Mkvi arms with fancy elbow pads Not seen the pack
tactical rocks are aweful, i remove them from every single miniature, i design my bases, not awefully by gw. nope this is not mkv, it wants to be, but this is not mkv, gw will retcon again, they will shoehorn mkv into the system somehow badly, there is not a single artificier mkv armour, that breaks the whole lore. mkv isnt what a marine wants to use, but has to. the most sad thing is the new style, there is absolutely no difference between armour marks anymore, they just look all the same, the details are so tiny and bland that everyone looks like in mkvi with extra clutter. i dont had fun with my mkvi, i dont had fun with my mkiii, i will never buy any model again from gw, they are aweful. there is tons of very good files out there, in a quality we know gw will never produce, so printing is required for this dead system. next problem, gw should stop making single monopose miniatures completely. a complete waste of time and ressources. they should make a set, legion consul/praetor in power armor, a single set, all option, fully poseable like you want, tons of bits. they can sell extra parts for each legion aswell, there doesnt need to be 10 single mononopose models for each legion! the same for cataphracti and tartaros and we are done. all "sets" lack any options and arent poseable at all, all plastic sets of the heresy other than tanks are dogshit. with all these armour marks we need sets in numbers anyway, instead you get useless bland single characters. delete all of them and make the few named ones in resin. the same in 40k and aos, a flood of useless single models noone askes for. and gw designers cant hit the mark, when they copy old styles and modernize it, it works, look at fuegan. but if they need to do new stuff, well its shit, look at the warp spider chief, or all primaris, or the "new" style heresy, its very very bad. people at gw aparently are able to handle a 3d modelling programm, well everyone can learn that, but they lack any sense for design and different styles, they are very bad designers. its hard to model digitally, because you can effortlessly add useless clutter, meaningless details and dont need to think about anything, you dont build in your head because you can bring up everything in seconds. but you need to have a coherent idea in your head for bringing up a consistent model, but all these gw models for many years by now are just bolted together, ad something here, ad something there, there is no consistency, they dont like they should be like that, gw models are very very bad in both design and how they look, and how their model kits are built and they are designed. and thats the huge problem, why does noone understand that? the dumb mass of people will be happy with a cheap plastic soldier from the dollar store anyway, so why making a "good" if you can sell crap? we can even harrass people with fomo, out of stock, releases after releases, monopose and horrible kits so they cant kitbash nor use 3rd party parts, AND GET AWAY WITH IT! the audience decides what runs in the tv.
I came into this expecting salt.... There are 3 different reactions tho bro. 1. Yesss I need 3 (overly positive) 2. Nice but where are my white Scars etc. 3. Fuck GW you charge too much rah rah rah.
Nice to see ya back, feel like ages. I actually like the helmet I looks like the stepping stone between the mk 5 and the hilarious discountued wolfs head helmets.
A nod to never forget the horrors of the past.
In the grimdarkness of the far future, there is only cringe.
I think the angles on the helmet are meant to imply wolf-like features without having any.
@@theylivewesleep.5139 yeah it kinda looks like the old Mk7 wolf mask with the end sawn off and replaced with a grill
@@arcanuke3294 And it fits weird designs from Visions of Heresy artworks. Could be interesting Son of Horus (just remove the gem).
I honestly love this Caster of Runes. This plus the Praetor are enough that I'm genuinely considering building a Space Wolves army.
i can make these two better and you will still like em,
you can like something, but that doesnt make it good.
This is a more minor thing, but can one of the hobby veterans tell me about space marine hair? What I mean is a lot of the new loyalist horus heresy space marines seem to have… modern(?) hair, including this guy. Were they always like that or is that a more recent thing?
It sort of varies, for as long as I remember (stretching back to early 2000) blood angels have had the 90s pretty boy hairstyle with the heart shaped bangs. But bald or short mohawk seems to be the most common throughout.
in old days everyone was bare head with no beards aswell, a neat style.
space wolves were the first to look like fantasy slayers and beards are nordic i guess...
blood angels needed fresh hair to be more pretty, well it works.
after that hair was used to bring more character in.
my guess is, that marines first were meant to cut their hair, in power armour and war its the reasonable thing to do.
than was fuck reason, we dont want to look everyone the same, hair was invented because why should one fight
without his helmet on, so we can have hair aswell in that case.
there are probably many lore hints in the books of how this is seen by the marines themselfes, but the books arent considered
hard canon so writers can do whatever they want without major retcon issues.
well i guess you can make up any explanation you want. if it looks better than its dumb, it will get a pass.
This is just in relation to what they can do with plastic I think. This guy's face actually looks really good imo including the hair. Hair used to look terrible if you look at the old grey hunters for 40k. I definitely think they add it more because they can actually use it now.
The fluff has always been "we don't care", the models have been "hair is hard to model and make a helmet fit".
I think that hairstyle has been a hairstyle norse youths would have to reduce lice without going completely bald
The bare head is a cut above
I think he looks like a character Oligerd from the witcher3 DLC hearts of stone
@@thatnewhobbyhigholgierd's hairstyle and overall aesthetic is more closer to Cossak than Norse
I generally like it, but I don't love the helmet. I get what they were going for, but the angular visor makes it look very similar to some third-party not-Space Marine minis I've seen online.
But that bare head is one of GW's best. Why is that not the standard they're aiming for? Maybe because it's in resin, I guess.
I have a feeling that GW might be sort of trying to get ahead of the market, by making characters whose armor looks nothing like any established mark. If there's 5 marks of armour, any 3rd party designs that differ from those 5 are fine. If there's characters in all kinds of bs armour types, GW can feel entitled to claim 3rd party designs as they have details "similar enough to that one model we have"
I love how everything is always out of stock at GW.
Just imagining replacing the staff with a shield, just know it'll look great
My only gripe with this model is that he’ll be about 30 quid like the rest of them. I honestly don’t get how or why people are happy to pay that for a single model of this size. It’s a single marine.
once you said "hello kitty" i cant unsee it
Funny enough, the helmet looks to me a bit like the space bears from tabletop time - at least from that one angle 😂
I think the mk6 librarian consul just WORKS for me
That nightlord axe looks like a weapon from bloodborne which l guess was exactly what they were going for.
I like the helm, it looks brutal but not like sons of horus.
25:00 There is a too much with EC? Isnt garishness their thing?
I don’t like the banana fur, i’d cut it down and sculpt my own fur with green stuff
Gonna get one for my tactical rock collection!
I honestly thought of the dark emissary model when I saw this it’s pretty close in my opinion
When scrolling past, thought it was a SoH at first glance... face is pretty ace though..
Hm, nice looking model, would look great as a wrath-hound...medicine man/shaman/witch doctor(whichever is the correct term), with just a few modifications(I'd change the wolf skull on the staff, add "ears" to the helmet as-is), i can already see him decked in black, orange and a bit of gold(with red painted carvings) plus some blue to denote the role(even his helmetless head would work).
It's not just tactical rock, there's also tactical corpse(see 10ed terminator captain), tactical rubble(see eidolon), tactical wreck(see peter turbo, cough, perturabo, sry).
Funny that you mention rapiers for emperor's children, rapier and dagger combo would/does work really well for them, and/or any potential loyalist successors of theirs.
I'd put symbol on just these 3 spots - chest and a shoulder(left or right), and belt if needed, usually is not, ultramarine guy, decked out in toilet lids :P
Speaking of night lord winglets, huh, sounds like I chose well to use winglet-shaped antenna for my homebrew instead (that is, a hood could be used without the antenna snagging on it).
From my understanding, models have both oversized heads/helmets AND weapons to be easier to paint, thus we agree on the size needing some trimming.
Lastly, idk chief, those IC helmets look like shit to me, perhaps with a right model and good paintjob they'd be better, to me at least.
It’s not Remus Ventanus they copied. It’s the Sons of Horus Dark Emissary. Have a look there and see how close it is.
Probably gonna pick him up and get rid of the axe for a stormcaller for my white scars
One model. 30 min vid. Gonna be a banger. Having you dissect this entire list without at least one character for each Legion at this point is a travesty. World Eaters are a true shame.
Salty or not, you're doing good work by pointing out good and bad design trends throughout the range.
I think zephons use if rubble is better than just tactical Rock makes it look like he’s in the air moving forwards without the wired transparent easy to brake stand though personally I like jungle bases instead
The solution to most of the problems is to provide different options on the sprue.
As a VI legion player, I am extremely pleased by the fact that they used fucking restriction
None of them look like the era they're meant to be.
I genuinely just thought that was a 40k model but then I realized they're replacing every single character and space marine that isn't already chaos into primaris.
I converted a ulfric model into a world eater im getting that same vibes with this guy
MKV has no standardisation so really the helm can look like whatever. If folks don't like his helm just do a head swap :)
I already have old white metal Njall Stormcaller as my rune priest but this model is nice do I will probably get one.
I have simmilar thoughts about the helmet. Its weird.
A way better Librarian model than the generic one. I hope they go back and redo the Librarian Consul so I actually want one in my army.
I like the helmet, only thing on the model that actually is kind of mark V. Torso and loincloth is fine. Shoulder pads are fit the model even if they're mark III. Staff and axe are looking pretty good but I still need to see them raw since they look pretty thick. Overall a solid model and would have been the best HQ in Space Wolves if it was on the real space marine scale and was handsculpted.
Torso is mkii. So yes this is mkv heresy armour as the lore intended, its not sarum pattern or mkv 'production' armour but it is absolutely mkv
@@MrConna6 Sou you understood that by mark V I meant production mark V that had been sold in the FW store as Mark V Heresy armour and still you went "Erhm achtually it has different parts so it's lore mark V". Don't You Feel Silly? Don't You Feel Stupid?
the helmet is like some darth vader/stormtrooper profile, I'd lose that and the banana fur skirt.
Did you know, if you hold ctrl on your keyboard (assuming pc) and click a link that it opens in a new tab Mr Circle. Lil tip for videos.
Personally I like it a lot, almost everything is a win for me. I do not like the helmet, looks too much like a stormtroopers, but that's an easy swap.
I wonder if new MKV will look like this.
I do draw a huge distinction between a model that uses the terrain on the base to enhance the pose and attitude and dynamism of the model and an unnecessary addition to the base.
New character just uses the rock to raise a knee so it doesn't appear to be standing still. Unnecessary. People do stand still rather than putting one foot on a rock.
Evander Garrius: Excellent use of a "tactical rock" to add motion and fluidity to a model mid-combat. Well executed.
Does it make the character stand out?
Does it match what the character is supposed to be doing?
Also: Remember that the flip side of never using the basing to tell a story or enhance the pose or make the model appear more dynamic would be boring for the opposite reason.
(I know that is not what you are saying here, but it is something to consider.)
I would liken basing on miniatures to seasoning on food.
Never use none.
Try not to use too much.
Don't use the exact same or rotate through just two or three favourites every time. Samey becomes boring.
Tasteful execution is the key.
For me that's where the scenic bases telling a story vs the flat blandness of a single foot sized object comes in. The character series nails this.
O look a legion that has praetor models getting a character, meanwhilst my legion only has its Primarch...
To me the new design philosophy of heresy sculpts is just so, sterile? Maybe it’s the paint jobs, but it doesn’t feel like the same range anymore. Also the pose reminds me of the saboteur, legion champion and death guard power armour preator. The reusing of wireframes our whatever cad stuff is getting really really obvious now. All of the new redesigns of everything just feel so gross to me. Only exception I’d make is mk iv. It looks so far to be getting a glow up and I’m excited for what they do with the kit. Hopefully they don’t fuck up the bolter knees and helmet like they did with mkiii
This helmet is a straight copy of a Star Wars Storm Trooper helmet. How can the Design crew become so creatively bankrupt to not see it and sign it up for fab ?
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Think the belt looks goofy and the pelt/fur needs to go, not a fan of the skull but I can work whit it.
Rare horus heresy space wolves win, in my opinion.
👌❤️🤘🔥👍
Knees are way too angular.
I thought it looked good too
Legs look verrrry similar to the plastic praetor from age of darkness 😏.
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Elbows too pointy
Massive miss for me. Doesn't look like 30K at all. You say it's a good use of MkV armour... is it MkV? It's just "almost like Space Marine armour but different".
MKV is any mixed armour suit, here you have:
Mkiv/vi artificed leg armour
Mkii torso with artificed belt
An Mkv head either from fenris or artificed (its similar to some ooold art)
Mkvi arms with fancy elbow pads
Not seen the pack
tactical rocks are aweful, i remove them from every single miniature,
i design my bases, not awefully by gw.
nope this is not mkv, it wants to be, but this is not mkv,
gw will retcon again, they will shoehorn mkv into the system somehow badly,
there is not a single artificier mkv armour, that breaks the whole lore.
mkv isnt what a marine wants to use, but has to.
the most sad thing is the new style,
there is absolutely no difference between armour marks anymore, they just look all the same,
the details are so tiny and bland that everyone looks like in mkvi with extra clutter.
i dont had fun with my mkvi, i dont had fun with my mkiii,
i will never buy any model again from gw, they are aweful.
there is tons of very good files out there, in a quality we know gw will never produce,
so printing is required for this dead system.
next problem, gw should stop making single monopose miniatures completely.
a complete waste of time and ressources.
they should make a set, legion consul/praetor in power armor,
a single set, all option, fully poseable like you want, tons of bits.
they can sell extra parts for each legion aswell,
there doesnt need to be 10 single mononopose models for each legion!
the same for cataphracti and tartaros and we are done.
all "sets" lack any options and arent poseable at all,
all plastic sets of the heresy other than tanks are dogshit.
with all these armour marks we need sets in numbers anyway,
instead you get useless bland single characters.
delete all of them and make the few named ones in resin.
the same in 40k and aos, a flood of useless single models noone askes for.
and gw designers cant hit the mark,
when they copy old styles and modernize it, it works, look at fuegan.
but if they need to do new stuff, well its shit, look at the warp spider chief,
or all primaris, or the "new" style heresy, its very very bad.
people at gw aparently are able to handle a 3d modelling programm,
well everyone can learn that, but they lack any sense for design and different styles,
they are very bad designers.
its hard to model digitally, because you can effortlessly add useless clutter, meaningless details and
dont need to think about anything, you dont build in your head because you can bring up everything in seconds.
but you need to have a coherent idea in your head for bringing up a consistent model,
but all these gw models for many years by now are just bolted together,
ad something here, ad something there, there is no consistency, they dont like they should be like that,
gw models are very very bad in both design and how they look, and how their model kits are built and they are designed.
and thats the huge problem, why does noone understand that? the dumb mass of people will be happy with a cheap
plastic soldier from the dollar store anyway, so why making a "good" if you can sell crap? we can even harrass people with
fomo, out of stock, releases after releases, monopose and horrible kits so they cant kitbash nor use 3rd party parts,
AND GET AWAY WITH IT!
the audience decides what runs in the tv.
Mkv armour is already in the horus heresy
I came into this expecting salt....
There are 3 different reactions tho bro.
1. Yesss I need 3 (overly positive)
2. Nice but where are my white Scars etc.
3. Fuck GW you charge too much rah rah rah.