I've been waiting for an OLED 3840x1600 38" monitor for several years now. Unfortunately, there still isn't a single one on the horizon. I have no idea why panel makers are sleeping on this res and size.
Def agree with this. I rock a 3840x1600 38“inch screen. It's just spot on. A 34“ultrawide really lacked the vertical pixels.. The 38"is just perfect for gaming and productivity.
I have a 34" Screen, I love it but I think you're right having a little extra below would be great, make it OLED and I would never need another monitor again.
@@mich5528 Agreed, If I'm spending >$1k on a monitor, I want it to be full resolution and OLED so it'll last for like 10 years. I've had my 1080p monitors for about that long lol.
@@mattfm101 i dont doubt, ive seen it with my own eyes, had 34 inch ultra wide from LG… great but i see the puxels. Since 2 years on 4k IPS at 144hz, i see much less pixels and no need for anti aliasing options in games. Now on 4k 240hz HDR and i see scanlines ;( But HDR is fantastic
You running quad SLI 4090s to drive that fps? 240Hz is total BS at these resolutions. You want 1080p refresh rates in a ~4K monitor with no GPU able to even get close to that refresh rate.
This really is the best resolution. I’ve used many and this is the best balance. Unfortunately there aren’t many options. I use the Alienware 38 but I’d love to see OLEDs in this resolution
The oled AW3423DW was on sale last year for cheaper than the non oled 38 and it's more VRAM friendly which allowed me to justify a 4070 Ti on sale for 700, which also happened to be the fastest card that fits in my existing case 😂 triple whammy from 1 good choice
3840x1600 is not 21:10. It's more like 21:8.75, making it even more ultrawide than a 21:9. The 34" 21:9 monitors you are referring to are 3440x1440, not 3840x1440. Math: (1600/3840)*21 = 8.75 (1440/3440)*21 = 8.79
I love my AW3821DW and got it after it released during Black Friday 2020, zero issues 2.5 years later. I agree 100% that it's the perfect size and resolution without needing to deal with 4K res scaling and I'm glad that others like yourself also think the same! Seeing this size/res with an OLED panel would be great, but I want to see a 2nd generation OLED that can deal with the text color fringing issue stemming from the different pixel structure that current OLED monitors have. Otherwise, productivity and text-heavy apps will likely be too distracting with current OLED panels.
3:43 it is 21:9 only, or very near. It is 2.4 cinemascope. 3840 x 1440 is 24:9, more than normal ultrawide. 3440x1440, 2560x1080, 3840x1600 and 5120x2160 (5k2k) are ultrawides.
sorry but your math is completely wrong...3840x1600 is not 21:10, it's 21:9 and not even that it's actually the slimmest out of all ultra wide 21:9 resolutions (proportionally) so yes on WQHD+ (3840x1600) you get more vertical pixels than WQHD (3440x1440) but it has nothing to do with ratio, it's like 1080p vs 1440p, you get more vertical pixels because you also get more horizontal pixels 2560x1080 = 21 : 8.859 3440x1440 = 21 : 8.791 3840x1600 = 21 : 8.750 5120x2160 = 21 : 8.859 3840x1440 would be 21:8 (7.875 to be exact)
You are right it would have to be 1800P in order for it to be 21:10. So this is just a bigger version of 21:9 Ultra Wide monitor. But it’s the perfect size with the perfect pixel density.
But my favorite monitors were from back in the day, the 1920 x 1200. Triple of those 24 inch monitors was a great balance. And it still is and probably most video cards can push that nowadays
So there is a little misinformation in this video 3840x1440 is not a regular 21:9 resolution - in fact it is not a 21:9 resolution AT ALL. The 'typical' resolution you reference is 3440x1440 which is the standard QHD 21:9 resolution we see everywhere (but really its ratio is closer to 21:8.8 or so). 3840x1600 does have more pixels vertically, BUT it has even more additional pixels horizontally - the ratio of 3840x1600 monitors is 21:8.75 which is (marginally) less vertical real estate proportionally to its horizontal resolution when compared to the 3440x1440. Now bear in mind that the 3840x1600 resolution has many more pixels in both directions when compared to the 3440x1440 resolution which prompts manufacturers to create larger (and as a result taller) panels. BUT it is not right to call it a 'taller' resolution giving more relative vertical height - in fact it is actually shorter when compared to a 3440x1440 monitor of the same physical dimensions. Both resolutions are great and 3840x1600 does provide a higher fidelity due to its greater pixel count - but it is closer to a comparison of 16:9 1440p vs 1080p than a comparison of 16:10 to 16:9. Both resolutions approximate to 21:9 with the larger one providing less vertical real estate. Just hammering this point in because you emphasized it in your video when it is very blatantly false. TL:DR - Mathematically the 3840x1600 monitor is SHORTER than the standard 3440x1440 (3840x1440 is not 21:9 and to my knowledge does not exist as a common monitor resolution).
Another note: you said "it is not as ultrawide as the 21:9 which would be 3840x1440". It is actually a 21:9 monitor as I said above, 3840x1440 is not even 21:9 (it is close to 21:8) and doesn't exist. It is actually MORE ultrawide than other 21:9 monitors NOT LESS.
Thanks for posting this. I find mistakes like this really damage the credibility of the Presenter. It takes two seconds to check, but he never did throughout the whole process of making the video.
Alienware needs to give us an OLED version! I already own the AW3423DW QD-OLED and it’s absolutely amazing! Also, for those that may not know, 3840 x 1600 is the same aspect ratio as 3440 x 1440, it’s just the next step up in pixel resolution @ 21:9 👍🏻 And for those curious what the diagonal measurement of 3840 x 1600 on the LG 42” OLED, it’s 39.5 inches - also most 40 inches. The only bad is there will be black bars on the top and bottom.
Agreed. I've been on my Asus XG35VQ 3440x1440 100hz for 5+ yrs. I'm only going to upgrade to an OLED. Would love a higher resolution option like an OLED 3840x1600. I want HDR that doesn't suck, great response times and perfect blacks
I have the the LG 3840x1600 equivalent at 160hz and I love it. I sold my 42" LG C2 and bought this instead. I want this in OLED or miniled for proper HDR. This size is perfect.
Good to hear you went from a 42" c2 OLED to this monitor, I had to choose between the 2 and still justifying the one I went with which was the 1600p ultrawide. still want to get one of those 42 LG OLED monitors one day
@@isxl-iy2gk That is true but doesn't fix the ABL on the C2 which drove me insane just like the occasional rainbow colors on the screen that was the result of the DisplayPort sync issues with RTX 3080. The size for 38" UW needs a curve too and the C2 is flat. I just don't think the C2 was good as a monitor.
@@deletedchanneI Huh, true, thanks, fixed. Point is, whole video is there to say that 3840x1600 is superior because it's more square than the usual 21:9, while in reality it's actually wider.
I want a GOOD 3840x1600. So far, we don't have many to pick from. Most have bad local dimming. Most are over priced. We need a Micro-LED version with 144hz or higher with 1000+ dimming zones. OLED looks great, but I don't want to worry about burn in on my monitor. So in the meantime I am using the 32" 4k LG32GQ950. It too has flaws but I will not give up vertical height and go 1440p like on 34" widescreens. it's also not 40-43" so I don't have to run my head to view games.
Not enough is mentioned about OLED text quality. I got the new Samsung 49" OLED and absolutely hated it because of text rendering. I think it could be fixed with software, but no OS vendors have implemented a fix for the novel subpixel layout. So I'm sending it back and getting an AW3821DW (and saving a ton of money at the same time).
I often like to use a custom 3840x1600 resolution on my 42" 4k OLED for some games. Usually in an effort to get more performance, but it also helps a lot in FPS games because the centered window is right at eye-height and you get a wider FOV in-game. I would only recommend doing the truncated custom res if you have an OLED so the black bars don't glow.
I do the same exact thing! I used to have an LG C2 42”, but upgraded to the LG OLED FLEX and LOVE it! Imagine all of that goodness of the C2 with a much brighter display (from the G2) and the ability to change the curve. It’s truly an epic experience 👍🏻
Same here. 42C2 here, playing games in 3840x1600. Perfect. Also doing lots of work on it. Premiere, AFX, PS, 3DS... Sad the video creator didn't get that.
Would be nice having a mini led display at this size and resolution, so you'd have a better HDR performance in films and games and no worries about burnins like on oleds when you use it for productivity....
I totally agree that resolution is absolutely paramount. I have a Korean 4k 40" that Logan reviewed and recommended back in the old days, that's one of my favorites. I'm trying a gaming monitor now, I'll have to consider trying this next.
This resolution looks perfect for gaming, surfing and flight-sims, good info. Btw- Love the semi-calming - semi-activating background music which matches your voice perfectly.
Totally agree! Finally someone made a great video about this. Love my 38” Alienware monitor! ♥️ but I’m patiently waiting for an OLED version to come out
I had the corsair flex returned it and just got the same monitor. The matte finish the flex had really took away from the beauty of oled also the 3440x1440 stretched over 45 just left to little clarity and i had an issue of image retention within two weeks despite be uber safe with it be oled. For 2k for a monitor there should be no compromises though flex feature and size was nice
I am right there with you. Went from the 38 to the aw3423dwf and oled ruined IPS for me. If there’s ever a 38 version I’ll upgrade right away to reclaim that vertical space!
Love my 38” Alienware monitor also and yes an OLED Version would be nice but then what do I do with the none OLED? I already have a 34" Alienware for my Work computer....I have no room for a 3rd.
You got the ratio wrong though - 3840x1600 is even wider than 21:9 (would be 3840x1645). And faaaaar of 21:10 (would be 3840x1828). Also, I wouldn't write off the 16:9 40"(+) screens for gaming, you could easily apply the custom resolution of your choice. PPI is all that matters :) PS: absolutely digging my 42" LG OLED for gaming and productivity ;)
3:36 I want to correct you on something, 3440x1440 is the same aspect ratio as 3840x1600 they are both 21:9 only one used for 34" and the other for 38" UW monitors. So the 3840x1600 doesn't have extra vertical real estate compared to the 3440x1440 it only feels that way because it's a bigger monitor not a different aspect ratio. But yes i agree 21:9 aspect ratio especially on the 38" models are just perfect for computer use whether it's gaming or productivity.
Really good points Logan. I personally went with the QD-OLED version AW3423DWF and this most likely going to be on my desk for the next 8 years, but yes a little vertical real estate would be nice indeed.
@@enricod.7198 there is a poll about burn in on the ultrawidemasterrace subreddit. There you will get a bigger sample size answer. My panel is completely fine.
21:10? Either the emperor has no clothes, ultrawides have some other way of stating ratio, or I'm dense. 3840x1600 would be 12:5, right? 320x12=3840 & 320x5=1600. But good points made. My setup has been 2 16:10 1920x1200 at 24" each for 14 years and I greatly appreciate the extra vertical. Was considering upgrading to 2x 2560x1440 27" but have to consider 2560x1600.
LG 38GL for a few years now. Took care of the Gsync fan noise early on. Definitely would be in the market if they made a 3840x1600 OLED, 144-240Hz. Yes please! I realize 5k2k is unlikely. Also surprised we didn't see a monitor like this from CES 2023.
For like 2 years I considered getting a 38" monitor but kept not pulling the trigger because I couldn't find anywhere that had one on display for me to see IRL. Finally I found a good deal on a AW3821DW and just went for it. Totally glad that I did, the little bit extra height scratched the exact itch that I thought needed to be scratched.
I just got this monitor a couple weeks ago, and love it. A 1440p ultrawide is not tall enough, but this monitor gives me the height that is comparable to a 16:9 display, but the extra width of an untrawide. it's perfect for me. The fact hat it's easier on a GPU than a full 4K display makes it even better
Yep, sitting up close to a 4k monitor I made a custom res at 3840x1600. Excellent for content. It's still a little more than 3200x1800, but gives a nice frame rate boost over pure 4k
Great video. Totally agree. Maybe in 10 years the pixel density can double and we can still get 120+ fps, but in the meantime this is the best resolution.
100%. Had a LG this size for a couple years and I think the only thing I'd upgrade to would be the same aspect ratio but a few inches bigger diagonal. The vertical space is awesome but could manage a smidge more.
16:10 has always been my favourite too, I hate that it didn't get much traction, as you say, if Dell could make one with QD-OLED and price it well... that would be great.
You're talking abt aspect ratio, not abt resolution. The problem with 21:10 monitors is they often cost very slightly below 32:9 monitors, which obviously give you much more screen real estate. If you need vertical real estate, you might be better off with lg dualup 16:18 monitor.
I agree. 21 : 10 is nice. I always preferred 16 : 10 to 16 : 9. That extra vertical space is nice. I wish someone would release a 3840x1600 OLED monitor. But I am incredibly happy with my 3440x1400p OLED. PPI is a big deal to me though. Which doesn't matter comparing the two sizes I mentioned here because they have nearly identical PPI.
in 2014 i used a 42" lg tv as a monitor replacement, just 1080p 60hz stuff. Was sitting on my desk so arguable way to close. And as a result most fps where a pain in the rear to play on. You end up lost and moving your crosshair around like crazy missing shots left right and taking ages to acquire a target. (And let´s not even talk about you having to move your head to check the ui/map/etc in the corners) Switching back to a 24" and the issue was gone. In other games it was however amazing and the immersion was a lot better. Nowadays i am using a 27" asus 1440p ips screen which seems like the perfect size. Still 16:9 but i don´t have much experience with other screens just that i never got to like 21:9 ultrawide, felt like i am stuck in a tank having to look through vision slits with the small/narrow (from top to bottom) ultrawide.
I totally agree with you about 21:10, but there isn’t one available under $1k! For that much it would be hard to choose between this or the OLED 21:9 Alienware. I’m personally in the market for something under $500. Currently debating between the Dell curved or gigabyte flat 21:9 monitors. What’s your thoughts on curved vs flat?
For all the reasons you mentioned, I've been waiting for a new 38" monitor with that resolution and aspect ratio (1600p, 24 : 10) to enter the market, but it's still a niche, unfortunately. Prices are still too high and not even competitive with monitors with higher-end, newer panels. I'm probably going to end up pairing a 27", 32", 34" OLED with an LG DualUp (28", 16 : 18) secondary to get a good mix of gaming + productivity + content consumption use.
I have an old (to me) LG with the same resolution. All I want is mini LED or OLED with the same (or greater) resolution with 144hz or greater. I agree with this, 38" is fine. 45" is too big.
Totally agree. An OLED 38 to 42 inch with 3840 x 1600 resolution and 800R curvature would be a perfect gaming monitor for me. This is however a 21:9 ratio monitor and not 21:10. This resolution also makes it 3K which I think based on todays games, a great balance between frame rates and image quality for high end gaming.
Been using a C1 48" for around 2 years now and although I miss 21:9, I have found myself using a rather strange 2:1 resolution most frequently for gaming: 3840x1920. The regular 21:9, 34" was just too small (top-to-bottom) and luckily OLED black bars are something which I can live with.
if you game like that frequently you are gonna end up with uneven aging on your display over the long run. When you watch full screen content the top and bottom portions are gonna look brighter than the middle.
Always wonder how old games run on that aspect ratios. There are some widescreen patches available for classics, but they mostly cover just 16:9 or 16:10 resolutions. Would be cool to play Clive Barkers Undying with that thing...
I have this exact alienware, got it used for 450$ in 2022, it has a pixel not displaying color white properly ( it shows red), anything else is super perfect, and I love it! There's not much content about it anywhere, so I love to see this !
To me, its the best productivity and gaming monitor ever, better than oled cus of that subpixel fringing, and awesome for fighting games and overall experience. Id pick an oled only for media consumption.
Picked up an as new in box Dellianware and Ive never been happier. I dont have to worry about burn in and 4K movies in letterbox format fit these perfectly. Sure, its not perfect but I wasn't gonna sit around waiting for oleds in this size/resolution forever.
i feel like the :10 ratio is certainly making a comeback withe the large number of gaming laptop models at 16" so im all for the :10 ratios and now you've got me considering my next upgrade from my aging X34 predator OG
Would love to see this in a OLED or even better the new QD-OLED panels! I’d pay extra for that! Thanks for this video I think 34” and above in 3840x1440p is too low on the ppi and 2160p is overkill so let’s get more of these 1600p ultra wides please!!!
just a little explanation, that monitor aw3821 is 21:9, 34" is like wide 27, and 38 is like wide 32. Benefit is resolution going from 3440:1440 to 3840:1600. I personally find 34" too small, so i also look for some 38" screen.
great video, this is something i frequently find myself going back and forth on, ive had 49 inch oleds and 27 inch 5k monitors, i think what id like to settle on is 4k 42 inch oled and then PUSH IT BACK and get a deeper desk so that i dont get lost in fps but also dont have to use scaling, im glad you agree that sacling in 4k defeats the purpose, i keep saying this too i hope ore people will understand, keep it up logan!
I don't really understand how 3840x1600 is 21:10 aspect ratio... The 34 inch ultrawide monitors have a resolution of 3440x1440. And if cou calculate both to find out the exact aspect ratio they are not even 21:9... the 3840x1600 pixels in theory is a 21:8.75 aspect ratio, while the 3440x1440 is 21:8.78 aspect ratio. Could somebody explain what's going on here? Cuz I'm confused.
I am a little confused why you say 4K would be too small for you seeing everything, so you would need scaling. However, the monitor you refer to literally has a 4K resolution in the with. If it would be true 4K it would simply become higher, giving you extra pixels there, but the DPI would stay the same and so it would be just as readable? If it would be a 4K you would still be able to display this 3840 X 1600 image on it, having a black border on the top and/or bottom. Having said that, I do agree 16:10 is a great aspect ratio for a monitor. So how about this: A 5K 16:10 monitor (5120 x 3200) with about the same with as your monitor (so letters would be a little smaller) but that also has the option to switch to other modes like 2560 x 1600 (The 16:10 resolution of 1440p) with a higher refresh-rate. Switching to a 1440p / 1600p mode would not work well with a 4K, that is why it needs to be 5K. A monitor like that would allow for games that require high FPS to switch to a mode that most hardware will also be able to display at those high frame-rates. When working (or playing fgames that don’t require high FPS) you however have the full 5K 16:10 resolution available. Technically you could even have modes that allow 3840 x 1600 or 5120 x 2133 with part of the screen not available but also higher frame-rates. (Difference between the mode in the monitor vs simply using a lower resolution or running something in windowed mode is that max frame-rate of a monitor would stay the same when you lower the resolution, while with modes in the monitor they could use the extra available bandwidth for more FPS.)
I have the Alienware QD-OLED and yes I do agree with you on the 38" 21:10 (it was on my wish list for a long time) however there is the issue of driving such a higher resolution and my poor RTX 3070 struggles with 1440p Ultrawide so at this stage im happy with sticking to 34" 21:9 as with the cost of living is making it harder to upgrade to the top end specs. I ended up going for OLED over 38" 21:10 as I feel the overall presentation of OLED over IPS is just better and with the slightly less resolution means I can play games at a better frame rate but in a perfect situation I would like a QD-OLED at 38" 21:10 paired with a RTX 4090 :D
THANK YOU. You put my opinion on monitors into a video. I see people spending $1000+ on GPUs, and they have some crumby monitor that cost them $100 half a decade ago, and it just baffles me.
I just got the LG 45 oled, and I'm smitten. I prefer 1440 and 1600 over 4k. Both just look better to my eyes in terms of my own processing mentally. The 45 is so big that more vertical would be kind of insane, but the curve makes the display almost perfect from a few feet away. Especially in gaming. It's unreal!
I wish your advice picks up because I would like to try 3840x1600 but let me put it this way: I don't want to try it enough that it makes me want to pay 3x more money but I get that there's no good reason 3840x1600 should be that much more money other than popularity and economies of scale not kicking in.
Excellent perspective and logic as I just built a new computer and wanted to go above the 32" 16:9 monitor I have. I was looking at 4K first then Ultrawide. Suddenly, I had exactly the same thought that you brought up - I really want some increase in vertical space. So, I started looking at 38" monitors and found your video. My only concern is that older games will not support this resolution, but you seem happy with yours and did a nice job of covering the concerns that I had - time to take the plunge since Dell has this down to $900.
Here Is one of my question. I downloaded Many movies on 3840*1600 resolution video quality. While watching those movies on my laptop will I get a same as 4k quality experience.
i went from a 1440p 32 inch to one of these even over such a big screen the pixel density is so much better but is still less pixels than 4k which is great for gaming. I hope they release this exact form factor and resolution in OLED and 240hz it would be absolutely perfect
I have an LG 38 inch at this resolution. It's the perfect resolution. It's such a niche size and hard for panel manufacturers to make them cheaply so it will never be adopted my the masses which is a real shame.
I got this exact monitor, and it's the sweet spot IMO. Was able to comfortably replace my dual monitor setup (unlike my prev 34" ultrawide where I still needed a 2nd screen). Then compared to 49" 32:9, its preferable because that is too wide and lacks the extra height. Takes up too much of the desk as well, like you said. 40" 4K would be similar width with even more height, but I feel the 38" 1600p is high enough. Those 40" would take up a lot of desk space too (they're basically TVs).
I was glad to see that over the years, more and more of my old games became compatible with the 21:9 monitor I bought when everyone told me I'd get black bars or a stretched image. It's become second nature to make it work in a matter of minutes thanks to fanmade patches, ini tweaking and so on. I'm currently playing gran turismo 2 at a fully rendered ultrawide ratio with the correct fov and it almost feels illegal. I love your channel as I get the feeling we'd understand each other, keep it up and take care.
I find 3840x1800 best for gaming but when I had a native 3840x1600 it was a great all round resolution. Now I'm rocking a 42" C2 OLED and it's the best PC display I've had since the PG348Q in 2016. OLED is just next level.
For me the 16:10 aspect ratio 3840x2400 (To be precise) works the magic, I use a laptop (Gigabyte Aero 16 to be precise) thus ultrawide setup isn't convenient plus there needs a balance. Cause not all the content fits the wider screens well.
Got this monitor as a Christmas present. Got a smoking deal on it on Black Friday. Was like $600. Have yet to install it, it’s just sitting in the dining room for now, waiting on a couple things I need for my setup first. And gotta figure out what I want to set it up because I have 2 4k 32” monitors which probably will be vertically on the side.
My goodness... I haven't had your videos in my feed for 5+ years now! Used to be active with your channel over 7-8 years ago. Wow. Hope you're alright mate!
I have a LG 38GN950-B. I won't use anything else now. I write for fun and when I do I like to have as many as 3-5 documents open at the same time. I can literally put up three different card games side by side. And as you say, gaming fills up the perspective very well without having to swing my head vertically up and down. The ONLY thing I want to confirm still is how this aspect ratio compares to 21:9 for some specific first person shooter games and some other strategy games. I've seen tall aspect ratios cut out on actual in-game vision so I hope this isn't like that. But even if it is, so long as I know I can force custom resolutions during gaming.
I have a Predator X38P and I think I can probably keep this monitor for the next 6~7 years. I've been using it for 2 years now, and it still feels perfect.
I kinda don’t see the hate for scaling, what’s the problem with windows bringing the ui elements to a readable size. Apps are built with it in mind and would have greater or equal detail than without it. You can still maintain a relatively compact workspace.
I "downgraded" from 43" 4k display to 38" LG 3840x1600@144Hz over a year ago and I've been generally rather happy with the pixel density and size. Being 2800 R monitor the curvature is slightly too much for my taste but tolerable. I remember when transitioning from 4:3 to 16:9 how 4:3 content looks cramped when letterboxed on 16:9 display. Luckily on 24:10 the 16:9 content with letterboxing doesn't bother me at all. The downside is that games do not seem to recognize the full resolution and fall back often to 3440x1440 without manually forcing the resolution from configuration files but then again for some games this doesn't matter that much.
I bought the AW38 just a few weeks ago and have been through three units with poor color uniformity. There's a strong bluish tint on the right side of the screens. Dell are now telling me it's working as designed. For anyone who bought the AW38 recently how is the uniformity? The units I received are manufactured in Jan 2022 Rev A03.
I have settled on 4k at 32 inches. Yes i use the windows scaling. That effect has come a long way and is now substantially more usable imo. I like 16x9 because i know that every will look good on it. Every poorly made pc port will still support 16x9. Emulation works nicely and idk it's the classic aspect ratio.
For more than 15 years I have been trying to find the name of that old platformer at 2:13.. I recognised it! Can someone tell me what is that game? I have been playing it as a kid and I lost it due to life.... Please, someone tell me whats the name of that game?!
My monitor is a Asus ROG PG278qr with 1440p, 3D vision, gsynch, 165hz and 27" - I love this monitor, its the best I've owned for 3D stereo gaming. I hope they hear your feedback and consider your proposals, keep well and Happy Weekend Logan.
For productivity I cant gel with an ultrawide versus a main 32” + 4:3 on the side, but I can see how it’s better for gaming and I DEFINITELY prefer 16:10 over 16:9.
They have this monitor marked down to $800.00 US which is a great deal, but I just can't pull the trigger. It's 3 years old and I just know that it's ready for a refresh. If I buy this now, they'll announce the Oled version of the monitor next week.
4:40 Crossover is the brand of my old Korean 40" 4k monitor. It's probably 8+ years old now. I wish it would die so I can justify moving to a 4k 120Hz screen.
Great video!!!! 3840x1600 is a solid choice. I’m one who does use a 40 5kx2k display for work, that same Dell monitor not so great for gaming, especially at 60hz always needed to scale it down. I’m now convinced I need to grab one of these Alienware AW38s on the second hand market.
For productivity, do you prefer the 3840x1600 or the 40 inch 5k2k? whick 5k2k do you have, Dell or LG. I have a 35 inch LG now and want just a little more real estate. Was thinking of 38, but then 40 seems "better". Do you find that you need to do 125 or 150 %scale to see the text on the 40 inch, thereby negating the 5k benefit over the 38 inch?
38" seems like a sweetspot. Having currently 34" and constantly noticing the hight could be a little higher.
I've been waiting for an OLED 3840x1600 38" monitor for several years now. Unfortunately, there still isn't a single one on the horizon. I have no idea why panel makers are sleeping on this res and size.
Def agree with this. I rock a 3840x1600 38“inch screen. It's just spot on. A 34“ultrawide really lacked the vertical pixels.. The 38"is just perfect for gaming and productivity.
I have a 34" Screen, I love it but I think you're right having a little extra below would be great, make it OLED and I would never need another monitor again.
Sorry I don’t agree, the PPI is too low on such a screen.
4K is much better looking thanks to its higher PPI and more desktop space. IMHO
@@mich5528 I honestly doubt you could tell the difference between those rctraa 500 pixles, even using it as a desktop monitor.
@@mich5528 Agreed, If I'm spending >$1k on a monitor, I want it to be full resolution and OLED so it'll last for like 10 years. I've had my 1080p monitors for about that long lol.
@@mattfm101 i dont doubt, ive seen it with my own eyes, had 34 inch ultra wide from LG… great but i see the puxels.
Since 2 years on 4k IPS at 144hz, i see much less pixels and no need for anti aliasing options in games.
Now on 4k 240hz HDR and i see scanlines ;(
But HDR is fantastic
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Totally agree, and it just amazes me that on CES there weren’t any 3840x1600 OLED 240hz been announced with DP 2.1 interface …
DP 2.1? I think you mean HDMI 2.1
@@ArashRazavi no I literally mean Display Port 2.1. Google it
You running quad SLI 4090s to drive that fps? 240Hz is total BS at these resolutions. You want 1080p refresh rates in a ~4K monitor with no GPU able to even get close to that refresh rate.
@@SixDashersome games are optimized for it and for the people who notice a difference it'll still impact general usage like on the desktop
im dying for an 3840x1600 oled 38
This really is the best resolution. I’ve used many and this is the best balance. Unfortunately there aren’t many options. I use the Alienware 38 but I’d love to see OLEDs in this resolution
I've been gaming on OLED TV for years now in 3840x1600 using CRU
Lg c series has option for this , friggin sick
The oled AW3423DW was on sale last year for cheaper than the non oled 38 and it's more VRAM friendly which allowed me to justify a 4070 Ti on sale for 700, which also happened to be the fastest card that fits in my existing case 😂 triple whammy from 1 good choice
@@XtopherBlackyup same here.
3840x1600 is not 21:10. It's more like 21:8.75, making it even more ultrawide than a 21:9. The 34" 21:9 monitors you are referring to are 3440x1440, not 3840x1440.
Math: (1600/3840)*21 = 8.75
(1440/3440)*21 = 8.79
I love my AW3821DW and got it after it released during Black Friday 2020, zero issues 2.5 years later. I agree 100% that it's the perfect size and resolution without needing to deal with 4K res scaling and I'm glad that others like yourself also think the same!
Seeing this size/res with an OLED panel would be great, but I want to see a 2nd generation OLED that can deal with the text color fringing issue stemming from the different pixel structure that current OLED monitors have. Otherwise, productivity and text-heavy apps will likely be too distracting with current OLED panels.
3:43 it is 21:9 only, or very near. It is 2.4 cinemascope. 3840 x 1440 is 24:9, more than normal ultrawide. 3440x1440, 2560x1080, 3840x1600 and 5120x2160 (5k2k) are ultrawides.
sorry but your math is completely wrong...3840x1600 is not 21:10, it's 21:9 and not even that
it's actually the slimmest out of all ultra wide 21:9 resolutions (proportionally)
so yes on WQHD+ (3840x1600) you get more vertical pixels than WQHD (3440x1440) but it has nothing to do with ratio, it's like 1080p vs 1440p, you get more vertical pixels because you also get more horizontal pixels
2560x1080 = 21 : 8.859
3440x1440 = 21 : 8.791
3840x1600 = 21 : 8.750
5120x2160 = 21 : 8.859
3840x1440 would be 21:8 (7.875 to be exact)
You are right it would have to be 1800P in order for it to be 21:10. So this is just a bigger version of 21:9 Ultra Wide monitor. But it’s the perfect size with the perfect pixel density.
But my favorite monitors were from back in the day, the 1920 x 1200. Triple of those 24 inch monitors was a great balance. And it still is and probably most video cards can push that nowadays
So there is a little misinformation in this video 3840x1440 is not a regular 21:9 resolution - in fact it is not a 21:9 resolution AT ALL. The 'typical' resolution you reference is 3440x1440 which is the standard QHD 21:9 resolution we see everywhere (but really its ratio is closer to 21:8.8 or so). 3840x1600 does have more pixels vertically, BUT it has even more additional pixels horizontally - the ratio of 3840x1600 monitors is 21:8.75 which is (marginally) less vertical real estate proportionally to its horizontal resolution when compared to the 3440x1440.
Now bear in mind that the 3840x1600 resolution has many more pixels in both directions when compared to the 3440x1440 resolution which prompts manufacturers to create larger (and as a result taller) panels. BUT it is not right to call it a 'taller' resolution giving more relative vertical height - in fact it is actually shorter when compared to a 3440x1440 monitor of the same physical dimensions.
Both resolutions are great and 3840x1600 does provide a higher fidelity due to its greater pixel count - but it is closer to a comparison of 16:9 1440p vs 1080p than a comparison of 16:10 to 16:9. Both resolutions approximate to 21:9 with the larger one providing less vertical real estate.
Just hammering this point in because you emphasized it in your video when it is very blatantly false.
TL:DR - Mathematically the 3840x1600 monitor is SHORTER than the standard 3440x1440 (3840x1440 is not 21:9 and to my knowledge does not exist as a common monitor resolution).
Another note: you said "it is not as ultrawide as the 21:9 which would be 3840x1440". It is actually a 21:9 monitor as I said above, 3840x1440 is not even 21:9 (it is close to 21:8) and doesn't exist. It is actually MORE ultrawide than other 21:9 monitors NOT LESS.
Thanks for posting this. I find mistakes like this really damage the credibility of the Presenter. It takes two seconds to check, but he never did throughout the whole process of making the video.
Alienware needs to give us an OLED version!
I already own the AW3423DW QD-OLED and it’s absolutely amazing! Also, for those that may not know, 3840 x 1600 is the same aspect ratio as 3440 x 1440, it’s just the next step up in pixel resolution @ 21:9 👍🏻
And for those curious what the diagonal measurement of 3840 x 1600 on the LG 42” OLED, it’s 39.5 inches - also most 40 inches. The only bad is there will be black bars on the top and bottom.
Yeah he got this wrong in the vid. 3840x1600 is the same 21:9 (pretty much, they're more like 24:10) as 3440x1440. It's extra height AND width.
Agreed. I've been on my Asus XG35VQ 3440x1440 100hz for 5+ yrs. I'm only going to upgrade to an OLED. Would love a higher resolution option like an OLED 3840x1600. I want HDR that doesn't suck, great response times and perfect blacks
No curve, no damn curve why do they keep giving us the curve.
@@mattfm101 Because larger monitors need curves, period.
@@drunkhusband6257 Why?
I have the the LG 3840x1600 equivalent at 160hz and I love it. I sold my 42" LG C2 and bought this instead. I want this in OLED or miniled for proper HDR. This size is perfect.
Good to hear you went from a 42" c2 OLED to this monitor, I had to choose between the 2 and still justifying the one I went with which was the 1600p ultrawide. still want to get one of those 42 LG OLED monitors one day
U could have literally went to 3840-1600 on a c2 i do it all the time looks about the same
@@isxl-iy2gk That is true but doesn't fix the ABL on the C2 which drove me insane just like the occasional rainbow colors on the screen that was the result of the DisplayPort sync issues with RTX 3080. The size for 38" UW needs a curve too and the C2 is flat. I just don't think the C2 was good as a monitor.
That aspect ratio is 24:10 not 21:10
Yeah, so it's actually wider than a 21:9, which would be 3440x1440, not 3840x1440...
@@vovs3167 your resolutions are same
@@deletedchanneI Huh, true, thanks, fixed. Point is, whole video is there to say that 3840x1600 is superior because it's more square than the usual 21:9, while in reality it's actually wider.
@@vovs3167 to be honest, regular 3440x1440 is not 21 by 9 too 😅
@@deletedchanneI Indeed. Close to it, but not quite. But I presume that's the resolution author thinks he is comparing to.
I want a GOOD 3840x1600. So far, we don't have many to pick from. Most have bad local dimming. Most are over priced. We need a Micro-LED version with 144hz or higher with 1000+ dimming zones. OLED looks great, but I don't want to worry about burn in on my monitor. So in the meantime I am using the 32" 4k LG32GQ950. It too has flaws but I will not give up vertical height and go 1440p like on 34" widescreens. it's also not 40-43" so I don't have to run my head to view games.
Not enough is mentioned about OLED text quality. I got the new Samsung 49" OLED and absolutely hated it because of text rendering. I think it could be fixed with software, but no OS vendors have implemented a fix for the novel subpixel layout. So I'm sending it back and getting an AW3821DW (and saving a ton of money at the same time).
I often like to use a custom 3840x1600 resolution on my 42" 4k OLED for some games. Usually in an effort to get more performance, but it also helps a lot in FPS games because the centered window is right at eye-height and you get a wider FOV in-game. I would only recommend doing the truncated custom res if you have an OLED so the black bars don't glow.
I do the same exact thing! I used to have an LG C2 42”, but upgraded to the LG OLED FLEX and LOVE it! Imagine all of that goodness of the C2 with a much brighter display (from the G2) and the ability to change the curve. It’s truly an epic experience 👍🏻
OLED should not glow…
@@MrHallTV that's what he said
Same here. 42C2 here, playing games in 3840x1600. Perfect. Also doing lots of work on it. Premiere, AFX, PS, 3DS... Sad the video creator didn't get that.
If you are gaming on OLED and forcing black bars top and bottom, and using a high backlight....expect issues with burn in. Vary the content.
Would be nice having a mini led display at this size and resolution, so you'd have a better HDR performance in films and games and no worries about burnins like on oleds when you use it for productivity....
Isn't it 21:8.75 instead of 21:10? I'm so interested in the Alienware 38 incher
It is a rather interesting setup. Seems to be easier on the eyes. Definitely need to reconsider my setup.
same
I totally agree that resolution is absolutely paramount. I have a Korean 4k 40" that Logan reviewed and recommended back in the old days, that's one of my favorites. I'm trying a gaming monitor now, I'll have to consider trying this next.
Ha! I also still use an old Korean 40" 4k from the recommendation of Logan and Wendell wayy back.
Model?
This resolution looks perfect for gaming, surfing and flight-sims, good info. Btw- Love the semi-calming - semi-activating background music which matches your voice perfectly.
Totally agree! Finally someone made a great video about this. Love my 38” Alienware monitor! ♥️ but I’m patiently waiting for an OLED version to come out
I had the corsair flex returned it and just got the same monitor. The matte finish the flex had really took away from the beauty of oled also the 3440x1440 stretched over 45 just left to little clarity and i had an issue of image retention within two weeks despite be uber safe with it be oled. For 2k for a monitor there should be no compromises though flex feature and size was nice
I am right there with you. Went from the 38 to the aw3423dwf and oled ruined IPS for me. If there’s ever a 38 version I’ll upgrade right away to reclaim that vertical space!
I'll get in line
Love my 38” Alienware monitor also and yes an OLED Version would be nice but then what do I do with the none OLED? I already have a 34" Alienware for my Work computer....I have no room for a 3rd.
OLED good for games , movies not so good for productivity ..
I would look for new DELL IPS BLACK monitors Dell UltraSharp U3824DW
You got the ratio wrong though - 3840x1600 is even wider than 21:9 (would be 3840x1645). And faaaaar of 21:10 (would be 3840x1828). Also, I wouldn't write off the 16:9 40"(+) screens for gaming, you could easily apply the custom resolution of your choice. PPI is all that matters :)
PS: absolutely digging my 42" LG OLED for gaming and productivity ;)
What game is it at 0:14 ? I agree about the manufactors should make more monitors in this reselution
ANNO: Mutationem
This! I've had 16:10 ever since I accidentally bought one at like 14 years old. Now at 34 years old I run LG 38WN95C-W. Its so goood! :D
It's 24:10, not 21:10, and it's actually slightly shorter than 21:9 at the same diagonal.
exactly, big misinformation on this video..
3:36 I want to correct you on something, 3440x1440 is the same aspect ratio as 3840x1600 they are both 21:9 only one used for 34" and the other for 38" UW monitors. So the 3840x1600 doesn't have extra vertical real estate compared to the 3440x1440 it only feels that way because it's a bigger monitor not a different aspect ratio.
But yes i agree 21:9 aspect ratio especially on the 38" models are just perfect for computer use whether it's gaming or productivity.
That's not entirely correct, 3840x1600 is actually 24:10, which is even wider than 21:9.
Really good points Logan. I personally went with the QD-OLED version AW3423DWF and this most likely going to be on my desk for the next 8 years, but yes a little vertical real estate would be nice indeed.
I got the same one, fantastic monitor. I definitely agree though, 38in OLED would be clutch
@@SubOxyde so much clutch!
How is burn in on these panels?
@@enricod.7198 there is a poll about burn in on the ultrawidemasterrace subreddit. There you will get a bigger sample size answer. My panel is completely fine.
21:10? Either the emperor has no clothes, ultrawides have some other way of stating ratio, or I'm dense. 3840x1600 would be 12:5, right? 320x12=3840 & 320x5=1600. But good points made. My setup has been 2 16:10 1920x1200 at 24" each for 14 years and I greatly appreciate the extra vertical. Was considering upgrading to 2x 2560x1440 27" but have to consider 2560x1600.
LG 38GL for a few years now. Took care of the Gsync fan noise early on. Definitely would be in the market if they made a 3840x1600 OLED, 144-240Hz. Yes please! I realize 5k2k is unlikely. Also surprised we didn't see a monitor like this from CES 2023.
what games did you feature in this video? some of them ive never seen and they look really interesting
For like 2 years I considered getting a 38" monitor but kept not pulling the trigger because I couldn't find anywhere that had one on display for me to see IRL.
Finally I found a good deal on a AW3821DW and just went for it. Totally glad that I did, the little bit extra height scratched the exact itch that I thought needed to be scratched.
I just got this monitor a couple weeks ago, and love it. A 1440p ultrawide is not tall enough, but this monitor gives me the height that is comparable to a 16:9 display, but the extra width of an untrawide. it's perfect for me. The fact hat it's easier on a GPU than a full 4K display makes it even better
What gpu are you running?
Yep, sitting up close to a 4k monitor I made a custom res at 3840x1600. Excellent for content. It's still a little more than 3200x1800, but gives a nice frame rate boost over pure 4k
@@chiefjudge8456 "Widescreen is a gimmick" heh, you should enjoy your square screen then. 4k is widescreen
Great video. Totally agree. Maybe in 10 years the pixel density can double and we can still get 120+ fps, but in the meantime this is the best resolution.
100%. Had a LG this size for a couple years and I think the only thing I'd upgrade to would be the same aspect ratio but a few inches bigger diagonal. The vertical space is awesome but could manage a smidge more.
16:10 has always been my favourite too, I hate that it didn't get much traction, as you say, if Dell could make one with QD-OLED and price it well... that would be great.
You're talking abt aspect ratio, not abt resolution. The problem with 21:10 monitors is they often cost very slightly below 32:9 monitors, which obviously give you much more screen real estate.
If you need vertical real estate, you might be better off with lg dualup 16:18 monitor.
I agree. 21 : 10 is nice. I always preferred 16 : 10 to 16 : 9. That extra vertical space is nice. I wish someone would release a 3840x1600 OLED monitor. But I am incredibly happy with my 3440x1400p OLED. PPI is a big deal to me though. Which doesn't matter comparing the two sizes I mentioned here because they have nearly identical PPI.
its wrong... 3840 x 1600 is same aspect ration like 3440 x 1440 -- both are more 21:9 and not 21:10
Actually considering getting an ultrawide monitor in 21:9 aspect ratio and this video has sold the idea perfectly.
in 2014 i used a 42" lg tv as a monitor replacement, just 1080p 60hz stuff. Was sitting on my desk so arguable way to close. And as a result most fps where a pain in the rear to play on. You end up lost and moving your crosshair around like crazy missing shots left right and taking ages to acquire a target. (And let´s not even talk about you having to move your head to check the ui/map/etc in the corners) Switching back to a 24" and the issue was gone.
In other games it was however amazing and the immersion was a lot better.
Nowadays i am using a 27" asus 1440p ips screen which seems like the perfect size. Still 16:9 but i don´t have much experience with other screens just that i never got to like 21:9 ultrawide, felt like i am stuck in a tank having to look through vision slits with the small/narrow (from top to bottom) ultrawide.
I totally agree with you about 21:10, but there isn’t one available under $1k! For that much it would be hard to choose between this or the OLED 21:9 Alienware. I’m personally in the market for something under $500. Currently debating between the Dell curved or gigabyte flat 21:9 monitors. What’s your thoughts on curved vs flat?
For all the reasons you mentioned, I've been waiting for a new 38" monitor with that resolution and aspect ratio (1600p, 24 : 10) to enter the market, but it's still a niche, unfortunately. Prices are still too high and not even competitive with monitors with higher-end, newer panels.
I'm probably going to end up pairing a 27", 32", 34" OLED with an LG DualUp (28", 16 : 18) secondary to get a good mix of gaming + productivity + content consumption use.
I currently own this monitor it is really nice hope an oled version of this comes out
Been a fan for years. You need to make way more videos!!!
I have an old (to me) LG with the same resolution. All I want is mini LED or OLED with the same (or greater) resolution with 144hz or greater. I agree with this, 38" is fine. 45" is too big.
I agree!
I got the LG 38" 160hz (without the gsync module) and i love it!
Totally agree. An OLED 38 to 42 inch with 3840 x 1600 resolution and 800R curvature would be a perfect gaming monitor for me. This is however a 21:9 ratio monitor and not 21:10. This resolution also makes it 3K which I think based on todays games, a great balance between frame rates and image quality for high end gaming.
This monitor is not 21:9, it's 24:10, which is even wider.
@Tek Syndicate
i dont get it... you say 3840 x 1440 is 21:9 ??
but isnt 3440 x 1440 21:9 ?
so: 3840 x 1600 is not 21:10 but also 21:9
Just got one, but the newer DWF version :D Thanks for the video!
Been using a C1 48" for around 2 years now and although I miss 21:9, I have found myself using a rather strange 2:1 resolution most frequently for gaming: 3840x1920.
The regular 21:9, 34" was just too small (top-to-bottom) and luckily OLED black bars are something which I can live with.
Been doing the same thing but at 3840x1440
You can just set a custom 3840x1600 resolution for 21:9
@@drunkhusband6257 I use that resolution too
if you game like that frequently you are gonna end up with uneven aging on your display over the long run. When you watch full screen content the top and bottom portions are gonna look brighter than the middle.
@@gencoserpen1260 Agreed. I only do it for specific games. Mostly when I need a little FPS boost
Man I haven’t seen you pop up in my news feed in a long time. Glad to see you are still making content.
Always wonder how old games run on that aspect ratios.
There are some widescreen patches available for classics, but they mostly cover just 16:9 or 16:10 resolutions. Would be cool to play Clive Barkers Undying with that thing...
I have this exact alienware, got it used for 450$ in 2022, it has a pixel not displaying color white properly ( it shows red), anything else is super perfect, and I love it! There's not much content about it anywhere, so I love to see this !
To me, its the best productivity and gaming monitor ever, better than oled cus of that subpixel fringing, and awesome for fighting games and overall experience. Id pick an oled only for media consumption.
Picked up an as new in box Dellianware and Ive never been happier. I dont have to worry about burn in and 4K movies in letterbox format fit these perfectly. Sure, its not perfect but I wasn't gonna sit around waiting for oleds in this size/resolution forever.
God tier resolution, its a CRIME that it is so limited inavailable products these days.
i feel like the :10 ratio is certainly making a comeback withe the large number of gaming laptop models at 16" so im all for the :10 ratios and now you've got me considering my next upgrade from my aging X34 predator OG
1000% agreed! 38" - 40" OLED with a moderate curve to it. Nothing drastic, just enough to give you extra immersion.
Thanks for the video.
Would love to see this in a OLED or even better the new QD-OLED panels! I’d pay extra for that! Thanks for this video I think 34” and above in 3840x1440p is too low on the ppi and 2160p is overkill so let’s get more of these 1600p ultra wides please!!!
just a little explanation, that monitor aw3821 is 21:9, 34" is like wide 27, and 38 is like wide 32. Benefit is resolution going from 3440:1440 to 3840:1600. I personally find 34" too small, so i also look for some 38" screen.
Rocking an lg 38gl950g-b, and I couldn't be happier. If you work from home and wanna game then you have to go with a 3840x1600. Best of both worlds.
I run the 3840x1600 + 2560x1600 setup as well. I've gone through quite a few different setups and this is the one for me.
LG 38GL950G user and completely agree on how big a difference the additional pixels make (1600 vs 1440).
great video, this is something i frequently find myself going back and forth on, ive had 49 inch oleds and 27 inch 5k monitors, i think what id like to settle on is 4k 42 inch oled and then PUSH IT BACK and get a deeper desk so that i dont get lost in fps but also dont have to use scaling, im glad you agree that sacling in 4k defeats the purpose, i keep saying this too i hope ore people will understand, keep it up logan!
I don't really understand how 3840x1600 is 21:10 aspect ratio... The 34 inch ultrawide monitors have a resolution of 3440x1440. And if cou calculate both to find out the exact aspect ratio they are not even 21:9... the 3840x1600 pixels in theory is a 21:8.75 aspect ratio, while the 3440x1440 is 21:8.78 aspect ratio.
Could somebody explain what's going on here? Cuz I'm confused.
You are correct, both are not exactly 21:9, and 3840x1600 is actually even wider than 3440x1440.
I am a little confused why you say 4K would be too small for you seeing everything, so you would need scaling. However, the monitor you refer to literally has a 4K resolution in the with. If it would be true 4K it would simply become higher, giving you extra pixels there, but the DPI would stay the same and so it would be just as readable?
If it would be a 4K you would still be able to display this 3840 X 1600 image on it, having a black border on the top and/or bottom.
Having said that, I do agree 16:10 is a great aspect ratio for a monitor.
So how about this:
A 5K 16:10 monitor (5120 x 3200) with about the same with as your monitor (so letters would be a little smaller) but that also has the option to switch to other modes like 2560 x 1600 (The 16:10 resolution of 1440p) with a higher refresh-rate.
Switching to a 1440p / 1600p mode would not work well with a 4K, that is why it needs to be 5K.
A monitor like that would allow for games that require high FPS to switch to a mode that most hardware will also be able to display at those high frame-rates. When working (or playing fgames that don’t require high FPS) you however have the full 5K 16:10 resolution available.
Technically you could even have modes that allow 3840 x 1600 or 5120 x 2133 with part of the screen not available but also higher frame-rates.
(Difference between the mode in the monitor vs simply using a lower resolution or running something in windowed mode is that max frame-rate of a monitor would stay the same when you lower the resolution, while with modes in the monitor they could use the extra available bandwidth for more FPS.)
I have the Alienware QD-OLED and yes I do agree with you on the 38" 21:10 (it was on my wish list for a long time) however there is the issue of driving such a higher resolution and my poor RTX 3070 struggles with 1440p Ultrawide so at this stage im happy with sticking to 34" 21:9 as with the cost of living is making it harder to upgrade to the top end specs.
I ended up going for OLED over 38" 21:10 as I feel the overall presentation of OLED over IPS is just better and with the slightly less resolution means I can play games at a better frame rate but in a perfect situation I would like a QD-OLED at 38" 21:10 paired with a RTX 4090 :D
What FPS and what games? I have a 3070 but I run 4k lol. I only go for 60Hz currently though.
OLED is where it’s at
Still waiting for 3840x1600p 240hz qd-oled panels. I think thats my endgame monitor. Hopefully we get some announced in 2024..!
LG 45GR95QE (2023) and LG 45GS95QE (2024) came close. I heard they're making higher res version in 2025
THANK YOU. You put my opinion on monitors into a video. I see people spending $1000+ on GPUs, and they have some crumby monitor that cost them $100 half a decade ago, and it just baffles me.
I just got the LG 45 oled, and I'm smitten. I prefer 1440 and 1600 over 4k. Both just look better to my eyes in terms of my own processing mentally. The 45 is so big that more vertical would be kind of insane, but the curve makes the display almost perfect from a few feet away. Especially in gaming. It's unreal!
I wish your advice picks up because I would like to try 3840x1600 but let me put it this way: I don't want to try it enough that it makes me want to pay 3x more money but I get that there's no good reason 3840x1600 should be that much more money other than popularity and economies of scale not kicking in.
Exactly most good 38" monitors are over $1k. Unless you get a used one on ebay or a renewed LG one on amazon for $700ish.
There are no good monitors at all under $1000
Excellent perspective and logic as I just built a new computer and wanted to go above the 32" 16:9 monitor I have. I was looking at 4K first then Ultrawide. Suddenly, I had exactly the same thought that you brought up - I really want some increase in vertical space. So, I started looking at 38" monitors and found your video. My only concern is that older games will not support this resolution, but you seem happy with yours and did a nice job of covering the concerns that I had - time to take the plunge since Dell has this down to $900.
Here Is one of my question. I downloaded Many movies on 3840*1600 resolution video quality. While watching those movies on my laptop will I get a same as 4k quality experience.
big mistake here.. this resolution is 24:10 and NOT 21:10 !! An 4k 21:9 has still more verticality..
i went from a 1440p 32 inch to one of these even over such a big screen the pixel density is so much better but is still less pixels than 4k which is great for gaming. I hope they release this exact form factor and resolution in OLED and 240hz it would be absolutely perfect
Yes, indeed. This would be the "humanity achieved it" monitor.
Thank the algo, I finally stumbled upon one of your vids in a LONG time. I am subbed yet don't see your vids on my front page!
I have an LG 38 inch at this resolution. It's the perfect resolution. It's such a niche size and hard for panel manufacturers to make them cheaply so it will never be adopted my the masses which is a real shame.
I got this exact monitor, and it's the sweet spot IMO.
Was able to comfortably replace my dual monitor setup (unlike my prev 34" ultrawide where I still needed a 2nd screen).
Then compared to 49" 32:9, its preferable because that is too wide and lacks the extra height. Takes up too much of the desk as well, like you said.
40" 4K would be similar width with even more height, but I feel the 38" 1600p is high enough. Those 40" would take up a lot of desk space too (they're basically TVs).
I was glad to see that over the years, more and more of my old games became compatible with the 21:9 monitor I bought when everyone told me I'd get black bars or a stretched image.
It's become second nature to make it work in a matter of minutes thanks to fanmade patches, ini tweaking and so on.
I'm currently playing gran turismo 2 at a fully rendered ultrawide ratio with the correct fov and it almost feels illegal.
I love your channel as I get the feeling we'd understand each other, keep it up and take care.
pcgamingwiki is amazing
I find 3840x1800 best for gaming but when I had a native 3840x1600 it was a great all round resolution. Now I'm rocking a 42" C2 OLED and it's the best PC display I've had since the PG348Q in 2016. OLED is just next level.
Are using the full display or are you playing at 3840x1800?
@@sam-chocolate you mean stretched to fill the sceen? no, when i use it its scaled to maintain the aspect ratio.
For me the 16:10 aspect ratio 3840x2400 (To be precise) works the magic, I use a laptop (Gigabyte Aero 16 to be precise) thus ultrawide setup isn't convenient plus there needs a balance. Cause not all the content fits the wider screens well.
Thanks brother, just what I needed
Got this monitor as a Christmas present. Got a smoking deal on it on Black Friday. Was like $600. Have yet to install it, it’s just sitting in the dining room for now, waiting on a couple things I need for my setup first. And gotta figure out what I want to set it up because I have 2 4k 32” monitors which probably will be vertically on the side.
My goodness... I haven't had your videos in my feed for 5+ years now! Used to be active with your channel over 7-8 years ago. Wow. Hope you're alright mate!
It is the best for sure!
I ended up going back to 3440x1140 but alienware oled hdr1000 and its stunning
I have a LG 38GN950-B. I won't use anything else now. I write for fun and when I do I like to have as many as 3-5 documents open at the same time. I can literally put up three different card games side by side. And as you say, gaming fills up the perspective very well without having to swing my head vertically up and down. The ONLY thing I want to confirm still is how this aspect ratio compares to 21:9 for some specific first person shooter games and some other strategy games. I've seen tall aspect ratios cut out on actual in-game vision so I hope this isn't like that. But even if it is, so long as I know I can force custom resolutions during gaming.
I have a Predator X38P and I think I can probably keep this monitor for the next 6~7 years. I've been using it for 2 years now, and it still feels perfect.
I kinda don’t see the hate for scaling, what’s the problem with windows bringing the ui elements to a readable size. Apps are built with it in mind and would have greater or equal detail than without it. You can still maintain a relatively compact workspace.
I "downgraded" from 43" 4k display to 38" LG 3840x1600@144Hz over a year ago and I've been generally rather happy with the pixel density and size. Being 2800 R monitor the curvature is slightly too much for my taste but tolerable. I remember when transitioning from 4:3 to 16:9 how 4:3 content looks cramped when letterboxed on 16:9 display. Luckily on 24:10 the 16:9 content with letterboxing doesn't bother me at all.
The downside is that games do not seem to recognize the full resolution and fall back often to 3440x1440 without manually forcing the resolution from configuration files but then again for some games this doesn't matter that much.
What game is being played at 7:40?
I bought the AW38 just a few weeks ago and have been through three units with poor color uniformity. There's a strong bluish tint on the right side of the screens. Dell are now telling me it's working as designed. For anyone who bought the AW38 recently how is the uniformity? The units I received are manufactured in Jan 2022 Rev A03.
I have settled on 4k at 32 inches. Yes i use the windows scaling. That effect has come a long way and is now substantially more usable imo. I like 16x9 because i know that every will look good on it. Every poorly made pc port will still support 16x9. Emulation works nicely and idk it's the classic aspect ratio.
The pcgamingwiki really helps get all the games working in ultrawide
For more than 15 years I have been trying to find the name of that old platformer at 2:13.. I recognised it! Can someone tell me what is that game? I have been playing it as a kid and I lost it due to life.... Please, someone tell me whats the name of that game?!
Do u use 21:10 on your screen? Is that better than 21:9 ?
Better for productivity... maybe not as good for movies (I use a different TV for movies)... maybe about as good or a little better for games.
My monitor is a Asus ROG PG278qr with 1440p, 3D vision, gsynch, 165hz and 27" - I love this monitor, its the best I've owned for 3D stereo gaming. I hope they hear your feedback and consider your proposals, keep well and Happy Weekend Logan.
For productivity I cant gel with an ultrawide versus a main 32” + 4:3 on the side, but I can see how it’s better for gaming and I DEFINITELY prefer 16:10 over 16:9.
They have this monitor marked down to $800.00 US which is a great deal, but I just can't pull the trigger. It's 3 years old and I just know that it's ready for a refresh. If I buy this now, they'll announce the Oled version of the monitor next week.
9:02 what monitor arm is this?
4:40 Crossover is the brand of my old Korean 40" 4k monitor. It's probably 8+ years old now. I wish it would die so I can justify moving to a 4k 120Hz screen.
Great video!!!! 3840x1600 is a solid choice. I’m one who does use a 40 5kx2k display for work, that same Dell monitor not so great for gaming, especially at 60hz always needed to scale it down. I’m now convinced I need to grab one of these Alienware AW38s on the second hand market.
For productivity, do you prefer the 3840x1600 or the 40 inch 5k2k? whick 5k2k do you have, Dell or LG. I have a 35 inch LG now and want just a little more real estate. Was thinking of 38, but then 40 seems "better". Do you find that you need to do 125 or 150 %scale to see the text on the 40 inch, thereby negating the 5k benefit over the 38 inch?