OLED Burn-In? G-Sync Module Still Relevant? When Will 1ms Lies Stop? January Q&A
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00:00 - Welcome Back to Monitors Unboxed
00:36 - Will Manufacturers Stop 1ms Advertising?
04:35 - G8 OLED with Mini-DP and Micro-HDMI?
08:19 - Is Nvidia G-Sync Module Still Relevant?
14:46 - 1440p on a 4K Monitor vs 1440p on 1440p Monitor
20:50 - Is OLED Burn in Improving or Still an Issue?
29:00 - Why Don't Manufactures Offer Glossy Monitors?
34:44 - Why Don't OLEDs Support Black Frame Insertion?
40:16 - 240Hz OLED vs 540Hz TN for Esports?
44:16 - Why Does 27-inch OLED Cost More than an OLED TV?
49:23 - What Monitors Will Drop in Price in 2023?
42:57 - Outro
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It's why I watch this channel get the best review on actual performance
I have an OLED E6, bought new end of year 2016. Amazing screen, but maybe a bit too early technology wise, even more for their anti-burn-in features or lack of. I knew about that risk when I bought it, so I'm not complaining. I have enjoyed that screens for years, consuming amazing contents, so no regrets.
6 years later, I have a few burn-in spots. First the subtitles area, since it's white most of the time, I can see a matrix of 8 digit segments all over the place down there. Also the Netflix logo in the bottom right corner, my red pixels are almost all dead over there (Netflix should propose a no logo option for those embedded app, same for the others...). Now I'm not looking for something in the app anymore, but instead on my cell, and send it to the TV. I have also the time progress bar for I think TH-cam and most likely also Netflix strip ghosting my screen, left to right.
I'm writing all of that, not to shout foul at LG or anyone, but more to share a true experience and maybe help other preparing better themselves. My TV has around 11000 hours of loyal services and I'm still happy about it despite those side-effects and will probably buy another OLED to replace it.
Thanks for your comment - if an OLED panel live up to 4 years before distracting burn-ins then it's a reasonable buy for the quality and responsiveness benefits. I'm willing to take that risk - also every new model usually have better life time and new benefits
@@yavormitev8388 Got my LG C9 in March 2020. No imagine retention or burn-in whatsoever.
My CX which I use as a monitor has 11,500 hours on it, mostly productivity and no burn in. But I also keep the backlight at 40 and the display in SDR mode when not gaming, which drastically lowers the peak brightness, and I suspect... drastically reduces the rate at which the pixels decay.
But I think they have also added more burn-in prevention features and increased the size of the red subpixel between when our displays were produced.
@@nerdstrangler4804 brightness is a big part of it :)
I have a S8+ phone and it has captured me on OLED. After 5 years I have some slight burn-in, but no regrets. As we learn about OLED screens, we get better at taking care of them.
Love my LG CX from 2020 and my next monitor will also likely be OLED.
Netflix sucks already. Sucks even more that they have their logo on the content
This video answered a lot of questions that I have had for awhile. Most answers were what I expected, but there was some new information in there and it’s always great to have my thoughts confirmed by an expert. Thanks and please keep making these monitor focused videos, especially Q&A that gets into the details!
Just finished watching this video from start to finish and man am i hyped for what you guys cover next. Also, i love you guy’s honest review on products especially when us consumer are often deceived by some of the other content creators. Anyways, thanks for what you do for the community and i look forward to watching more in the future!
Well said.
Hey, leave Jay out of this.
@@Metaris 🤐
+1
i think the mini dp/hdmi ports are more loved by the designer than by the every day person. i've always had a large collection of cables but have had to winnow the HDMI ones because of compatibility issues (as they all look the same). having dealt w/ mini connectors in the past i can say they're more prone to breaking and in the real world we have kids and pets that can be rambunctious.
The black frame insertion question is likely a reaction to LG removing it from their newer TVs. Their old ones used to support it but following the C1 they stopped adding it.
And the CX had such an amazing BFI implementation. Makes no sense to remove it.
Great Q&A upload Tim. Some great great insights as well as sone questions or points of view I thought why has no one done X Y Z before ….. I got some valuable knowledge and would love to see many more of these videos going forward 🥰💪🥳
Just discovered this channel today. I've started looking for replacements for my 5-6 year old Asus displays, and the videos here have been an amazing resource. Thank you!
I think part of the reason why Samsung went with the micro-HDMI and mini-DP is port orientation. Dell's version of the monitor has the ports vertical to the monitor along the bottom edge (they plug in parallel to the panel). That gives them a lot more space to put in the full-size ports, which are both wider and deeper. The Samsung monitor has the ports on the rear face, and the depth of the monitor is quite limited there.
As far as the gsync module thing goes, I think it could be phased out, but I think the validation is great, because these companies will make really crappy freesync panels with terrible specs if they know there's no real validation or rubric to follow.
Hope they keep the G-Sync branding. I like it and prefer to build and use systems with it.
Great info and exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
Nicely done Tim. Very interesting questions, and great answers that really dig into the meat of things. It should have been obvious that Smart TVs were subsidised through remote real estate and data collection, but for some reason that didn't occur to me. Cheers.
Can't wait for a comaprison of the different models with the new 27" 240Hz QHD OLEDs from LG Display. 😍
According to an LTT review of the cheaper DWF model, it seemed that Dell couldn’t provide firmware updates on the DW because it wasn’t possible on the GSync module short of shipping the monitor back to the factory.
I once got a high end Asus monitor, which came with lots of congratulatory claims of "VIP service". Truth was they offered exactly NO service, just pointing fingers at the G-sync module, as if that was some third party accessory. It's a component of the monitor, so it's the manufacturer's responsibility. That doesn't mean it's a *good* component.
@@0LoneTech Maybe the fine print of the claims read VIP as "Very Ignored Person"?
Should I buy the DW? The DWF is not available in my country for some reason.
@@thanos1000000fc Current DW is more updated than launch ones but it's best to wait for a sale and check out for any future revisions.
@@thanos1000000fc Maybe the DWF is slated to show up there soon
Thanks for answering my question Tim
I have been into PCs since 1989, I have a crazy selection of cables, many completely outdated and only used in rare vintage configured gear, yet I have kept a majority of them, just in case!
Also monitor coatings aren't always up to the major brands because the LCD panels come with matte coating from the LCD panel manufacturers themselves like (INNOLUX or AUO). There probably aren't many options from anyone other than samsung or LG since they produce most of their own technology.
I think one reason Samsung might have done the micro connectors is that it semi-forces people to use their included connectors instead of ones they already have. Considering that user may have a poor experience if they just grab a random DP cable ignorantly and use a DP 1.2 cable, then complain/RMA/Return the display because it cannot operate at its advertised speeds.
If i remember correctly, you can use a dp 1.2 cable for dp 1.4 or even 2.0 and it works just fine with all the features. Correct me if i am wrong.
I think that if someone is savvy enough to notice the speeds, they would know what cable they need. Could be wrong, but that's what I expect.
My buddy had issues with the g9 using his own cable, but none using the included ones. So I could see that
The contrary might be true. Several people (including me) commented that their included DP cable that came with the G7 has issues. Nothing major but it would suggest a lower quality cable. You can find these comments on LTT's DP cable test video
@@mirafu3481 you are wrong. Cable matters.
I watched your Gigabyte M28U review and bought it about 4 months ago. It's been amazing! Works well with HDMI 2.1 with my RTX 3080 laptop
There's a few TH-cam videos claiming the firmware version 7 is 500 nits brightness and considerably brighter than other versions of the firmware, even the newer ones they reverted the brightness back
You provide information that no other TH-cam channel does quite as good as you and most channels don't even scratch the surface of the great information that people actually need
@Joe I meant the statistics
Amazing...just amazing!! It's amazing the fact that the best tech channel on the internet today (imho) has 63,2K subscribers and a bunch of clowns out there have millions. Keep up the excellent work you guys!! Wish you the best for the future!!
Millions of flies can't be wrong.
Do you live under a rock? The main channel has nearly 1m subscribers.
Thank you @UnicornPirate for asking your question about OLED vs TN motion blur. I went with the PG27AQN, the Gsync module (full vrr range) and the low latency analyzer are invaluable to me. I hope the OLED MLA tech improves dark scene detail but from what I have seen reviewers saying it's still a dark panel especially for games like tarkov or warzone 2 with darker environments. Just my two cents in what I chose for my setup. Great video can't wait to see more.
You're welcome
Do you have any issues with VRR with the PG27AQN (like flickering)? I've been thinking about pulling the trigger on one.
@@Kubose Oh I don't use that monitor. I just saw you mentioned me for asking that question and said you're welcome lol. I'm using a Zowie XL2566K TN. It's great right now as I go for speed. I asked that because of the new OLED 240hz monitor and was wondering if it's going to be faster than the new 540hz panel coming out. I use a LG CX for couch gaming and it's great
@@Kubose The PG27AQN is a amazing panel imo. I have tested it on most games and vrr works great for me. One thing about Asus is the firmware support they offer so I'm sure if there's an issue they can fix it.
Thank you for the OLED situation update!
I love the gsync initiative, IMO it has produced the biggest change in the industry felt by actual gamers in the last decade. I never want to go back to before vrr products exist. I am lucky to have a second-gen gsync 1440p165hz display (acer xb271hu bmiprz)
HP used to offer 19" glossy 1680 x 1050 monitors and I thought they looked like OLED in quality for the tech at that time and I had 2 of them in 2013, I loved them so much. After that I didn't see anything glossy other than phones until the OLED TVs. Now I bought a 42"C2 but I kept my 32" Samsung VA panel as a second monitor for work and windows and the C2 only runs TV/Games/Videos content (most of what is desired) That way no burn in ever and I kept a monitor that is worthless for resale at this date.
Hey! I knew I wasn't the only one. The glossy monitors looked fantastic, I really wanted one.
Bro nothing has looked like oled accept for plasma TV yrs ago
I am a recent glossy convert due to my 48CX. Honestly, I remember glossy monitors being a nightmare back in the day and constantly having to battle sunlight by putting blankets and things over the windows (didn't know about blackout curtains back then) if I wanted to use my computer during the day.
It was only thanks to the allure of OLED I was willing to give glossy another shot, and figured I would just buy blackout curtains or whatever, but surprisingly reflections haven't been an issue. I think due to advancements in brightness, anti-reflective coatings and polarizers etc. glossy screens look a lot better and don't have nearly the drawbacks that they used to. Granted I am also using one of the highest end displays on the market. So I have no idea if the experience transfers to midrange and budget displays.
I suspect a lot of people are like me and so scarred from trying to use crappy glossy monitors in poorly light controlled rooms that they just completely wrote them off. Probably going to be a long uphill battle for manufacturers to convince people to want glossy monitors. Because even though I am now a convert, if I had the option to buy a matte OLED at the time, I would have taken it in a heartbeat.
From my experience, OLED burn-in is for sure still an issue. I've had to RMA two Alienware OLEDs for burn-in already. Both burned in from having two browser windows side by side for long periods of time. What burned in was the middle scroll wheel and URL bars at the top.
The 'new' QD-OLED Alienware?
@@RCmaniac667 Yes, I have the DW.
@@GameLifter Damnit, i very hoped that QD technology would prolong its burn-in free lifespan. Is it noticeable in all image colors?
@@RCmaniac667 Mostly in grayer and lighter colors.
I use my pc for a couple like 2hrs a day and on weekends maybe up to 5hrs when playing games.
I was using a oled tv for about a year, i initially noticed the screen is nowhere as bright as it used to be, when it was new I used to be comfortable with it on 100% brightness and it would still be visible during the day with curtains opened, after about a year it was just not being enough and colors where also not as good, then i noticed burnin on white loading screens or on videos when there is a White background or maybe explosion. When i noticed it even if it was a small amount it really drove me mad. I started looking out for it and i saw it all the time and it made using my pc annoying as i started turning of the monitor when i leave even to go to the bathroom for one second, i really hate hiding the windows taskbar but i did so to avoid more burn in i just couldn't take it anymore.I even noticed it on my OnePlus phone. I bought a neo g7 43" to replace my main screen and i downgraded my OnePlus 8 to a realme x3 superzoom, oled has left a bad taste in my mouth and i really dislike it. Yeah when it's new it's a 10/10 but already after a year it's not a 10/10 anymore, i rather get a lcd with miniled which will be a 8/10 or 9/10 forever untill i decide to upgrade or it breaks for other reasons. Not because the pixels are dying slowly. I hate oled, already upgraded my phone 3 times because of burn in and not because I actually needed to upgrade.
And to be honest my lg oled looked better when new but after just a year it looks worse than any standard lcd. Really a 10/10 that goes down to a 6/10 in a year of use is not worth it for me over a 9/10 which remains a 9/10 forever
I think I heard that the LG OLED monitors are using their new MLA (micro lens array) technology to focus the light output and increase brightness, which could also increase their cost relative to TVs. Also just speculating, but there are fixed costs to manufacturing that will not scale with panel size like cutting and handling the panels, power delivery etc. No idea what percentage of the total cost these make up but just another potential reason. The monitors also hit 240Hz vs 120Hz on the TVs which must involve other changes that increase cost.
I would have never thought ultrawide is such a gamechanger. But if a game has it, I always run my C2 in ultrawide resolution. Now hoping for good 5K2K monitors soon.
I've had my alienware QD-OLED since June last year and am a CG artist, so lots of static elements on my panel all the time.
Haven't actually had any burn-in at all. And being that most animation suites are pretty dark grey, the burned in elements tend to show up really well on LED panels.
Nothing though. Nadda. Terrified of it, but nothing so far.
sounds good! how long do you use the monitor over the day? what are your brightness settings? sometimes i feel like burn-in happens more to 100%-brightness-all-day-every-day-monitors. but that's just a guess.
@@randomrick Typically 100% HDR on the 1000nit mode.
Only times I'm not at that level are very specific bits of work wherein the aforementioned grey suites aren't grey, but blaring fucking white. Though that's more about burning my eyeballs out than anything else.
I do use a motion background that keeps things in motion when I'm not 100% window size though, and am very very careful with my screensave on/off times.
I have to amend this - I managed to burn in some halo infinite UI elements over the weekend last.
A pox on having the flu and nothing else to do.
So that was I guess just under a year before burn in occurred.
@@SerinJameson Did you play a lot of Infinite in a short space of time?
@@ProfessorJohnny69 I mean, probably like 8 hours total across 2 days.
It looks like there was some kind of tipping point, because the panel is now showing retention of things that I've only used since, and pretty constantly move around in the UI. (3d app sidebars etc)
re: black frame insertion on OLED:
I would posit that there's a chance that these two actually pair _very badly_ together.
If it's not qd-oled you aren't just turning on and off the backlight, you're turning on and off the color too, which might introduce overshoot/undershoot issues.
It might also wear out the oled pixels faster because you're putting more peak instantaneous power into the oled pixels.
even if black frame insertion did work well on OLED, how on earth would that be worth it when the response time is just 0.3ms anyway?
@@b1zzler in theory it improves perceived clarity, but yeah, probably a lot less so on an OLED even if it did work the same as a backlit monitor
I’m so excited to watch this
I think it's fine to include mini/micro hdmi/DP but you also need to include full size ones in addition as well. I think in portable monitors with 10-13" screens where you have a limited amount of space for ports it might make sense but not something like a G8.
For 540Hz you need under 1.8ms average. I don't think that any classical paneltech can achieve those extremly low responsetimes on average. I think the clarity between a 240Hz Oled and the 540TN would be more or less the same but the picturequality will be way way better on the 240Hz Oled. Picturequality matters even in an eSport enviroment. It is way easier to see someone when the colors pop more. A TN picture is often to flat to get a good colorseperation which results in a worse visability overall.
Oled also feels way more responsive as any TN, VA or IPS panel i've ever tested. The ultrafast 240Hz and 360Hz feel worse than an 120Hz Oled.
Oled feels more like the old tube monitors but with better colors :D
I think even an eSport pro will choose the 240Hz Oled over the 540Hz TN when he/she has the choise.
A very well tuned TN panel could reach 1.8ms average, and don't forget this is meant to be a brand new panel. Maybe the panel will struggle to get 1.8ms across the refresh rate range, but realistically it only really needs perform well at it's maximum refresh rate since it's only really for a handful of esports titles. I think there is close to zero chance we will be seeing any of these 240hz oled monitors being used in esports tournaments (at least in csgo). The real battle will be whether or not the new 540hz panel gets adopted over the XL2566K with it's 360hz Dyac, and I would guess that 360hz dyac will be marginally sharper than 540hz sample and hold. Zowie also has the massive advantage of being the encumbant in the esports space, both amongst tournament organisers and players.
asus pg27aqn has like 1.5ms average
@@Slixbrah not even close to 1.5ms. Is more around 2ms with 25% overshoot and around 1.8ms with 50% overshoot. That is unacceptable in my opinion. Overshoot destroy any clarity and the picture looks way worse than every 120Hz Oled.
Oled has no overshoot and will also don't have any overshoot at 240Hz.
I would never touch a TN panel I don't care how good the refresh rate is.
@@iPain3G Overshoot is naturally lower the higher the refresh rate is. I would be surprised if this monitor didn't have high refresh rate compliance when it's finally released, given the length of time it has been in development and the increased specs over time.
For these Q&A videos I think it would be really helpful to keep the question on the screen for the full duration of the answer.
I'm glad you made his video. I haven' watched it yet, but I just bought an Alienware DWF, and I'm going to use it to play MMOs with my task bar. I don't want to stress. I'm just gonna roll my dice and see what happens. Hopefully this video contains good news, and not that I'll be testing my warranty's limits.
oh man, even if I got 3 years of no burn in using a taskbar -- I would be in heaven. I know not everyone has disposable money, but if OLED is that awesome, I can see just getting a new monitor every 3-5 years, and then just giving the old one to family or friends. 1,000 bucks every 3 years is pretty reasonable in my opinion.
Integer scaling looks terrible in my view, nothing like running the resolution natively even when considering 1080p on a UHD display. The edges of objects become blocky, it does not look good up close at all. It works well for certain titles with 'simple' cartoony graphics or if you're sitting far enough from the monitor that the edges aren't well-defined. But it makes many games look like they have Minecraft edges when they shouldn't. It isn't a feature I miss being added to monitors to be honest - maybe nice as an option for some to use I suppose.
with how good DLSS and FSR are these days, integer scaling is no longer needed
Interger scaling is mostly for old games, e.g. SNES emulators, where you want that authentic blockiness imo.
Got a LG42C2 using it as a monitor desktop icons showing, taskbar shown running in dark mode with a cycling desktop wallpaper, turned off all protection features including TPC and GSR in the service menu, used your color calibration suggestions but have SDR brightness set to 60, we will see how it goes.
Is it possible to turn off ABL?
@@UltimateLF i think you need to get some special servicing remote control, which isnt too expensive, and i think disabling it voids your warranty
@@ThunderingRoar There's a windows desktop utility that gets you the service menu. Your warranty getting voided depends on how much the person they sent for service cares.
all this stuff required to run it as a monitor is why I'm not going back to OLED lmao
@@teknonmy7210 The only thing i changed was having a cycling wallpaper with about 6 different images, everything else is normal desktop as ive always used. You do need to enter the service menu though on the TV which is either a remote for 10$ or using software on PC.
I'm so tempted to pull the trigger on this new LG OLED, but I already have a Gigabyte m27q p shipping out to me. I don't think the matte finish and lack of brightness will be a huge problem for me, but it is kinda ridiculous to make compromises at that price point. Right now I guess I'm just waiting to find out the QA dice roll on this gigabyte monitor coming, and if it's defective I may just do it. Wish I had a way to see the differences though. I don't think I've ever even looked at an OLED screen before
I loved this Q&A video. I have a question about the difference between Gsync compatible vs those that have the Gsync Module. I just bought an LG 32950 4k IPS and it says it's Gsync Compatible, but somewhere I read that it doesn't have the module. Is there a difference? It looks perfect and the Nvidia control panel recognizes it perfectly.
The other thing with OLED strobing, you are not flashing the back-light, you are flashing the pixel itself, so if it takes 0.3ms to get to blue, it will take 0.3ms to get back to black. For the next frame it is starting from black again and there is never a grey to grey time.
Was about to write the same. If anything, strobing would probably make an OLED display look worse since you now have two transitions per frame instead of one, essentially doubling the response times.
It doesn’t seem to go to black it just changed to the next image, watch slowmo guys video.
@Marshmallows by the Fire if it doesn't go black, then by definition it is not BLACK Frame Insertion
I went from an Alienware monitor that had a G-sync module to a Samsung Odyssey G7 that is G-sync compatible, and I gotta say I do miss that G-sync module sometimes. I never had any of the issues I have on this screen (vrr flicker at various refresh rates, on/off vrr control toggle that allegedly increases input lag but fixes this issue, vrr range only going down to ~80hz). To be fair some of these issues are purely the fault of the screen itself and not really due to lack of a G-sync module, but my LG C1 also has some flickering at the lower end of the VRR range, and the vrr range only goes down to ~43hz (which is surprisingly annoying because I've found I can tolerate 40fps for some games, but LFC just doesn't cut it for me). It's not the end of the world, but I do miss just setting it and forgetting it, and being able to cap my fps at literally whatever and having VRR just work.
I have had the freesync premium pro and gsync monitors and I agree with what you said. I'll take the actual module everytime.
You can set your own VRR range with CRU.
Informative Video. Thank You.
I've been using a 48" LG C2 for four months as a monitor and already have burn in. Since my desk is in my bedroom I was using the C2 for triple duty, work, gaming, and as a TV with a NVIDIA Shield as the source. The panel is being replaced by LG this Monday and it's going in my son's room. I've sadly replaced it with the Samsung 43" Odyssey Neo G7 because of the recent price reduction to $499 and needing the larger format. The only two things I like better about the G7 is the matte vs gloss screen and not worrying about burn in.
I wonder if monitors can integrate technologies like RSR into the scalar directly? Rather than like the default algorithm
I'm guessing that the compute power required for RSR would make that impractical.
Currently deciding between the AW3423DWF and the 27GR95QE-B, so far I'm leaning towards due to the 240Hz refresh rate though the UW format of the AW3423DWF is also very appealing.
If only there was a 34"+ UW 240Hz OLED monitor with high PPI, that would be an easy choice.
th-cam.com/video/RMUwB9VRapU/w-d-xo.html
You'll be surprised with the uw format you won't go back to 16:9 ever the F version has a sharpness filter also 165hz beats out 240hz in terms of responses you'll need a 360hz to beat a QD OLED screen, uw format has a lot of pros vs cons plus it's a huge upgrade vs typical 240hz monitors
Qdoled is far superior to woled. 240hz is nice on paper, but 165 v 240 is much less important than 60v144hz.
Stay away from DWF. Despite what HUB says here, th re is a big difference I'm between not having a Gsync module. The DWF has lots of issues with gamma flicker, tone map tracking and HDR
@@ms3862 It’s a shame, I have the older DW with the GYSNC module which came with an updated firmware 102 and it’s been awesome
@@ms3862where are you seeing this
Regarding backlight strobing, my Panasonic TV supports it and it's really really good. Such a shame it's not widely supported especially on the gaming monitors. With retroarch and a good CRT shader (one that simulates individual phosphors) it it just incredible.
having returned a gq900 i have to say the gsync module is more important than ever since the VRR flickering issues are everywhere.
In the U.S there are laws against falsely advertising a product (Response time) that you could technically report to the Federal Trade Commission, but I doubt anything would really come of it. Like you mentioned though, OLEDs are around the corner and I'm super excited to see what happens with those!
Sometimes they will lower the temperature in the room that they're doing the response test sin to be able to get better results so they're not false advertising.
Have you considered reviewing the Samsung S95B. Although doesn't come in a particularly monitor friendly size, I'm sure this tech will find its way into smaller units in the future. Currently RTINGS have it as their #1 gaming TV and would be interested to see how it does in your testing vs the C2. Love the content btw.
I went with s95b 55 last year and haven’t had a single issue. Very nice tv for pc gaming at 4K.
I was playing Witcher 3 next gen on my 55" s95b last night.
It's probably going to be the same review as the AW QD-OLED since they both have the same panel from Samsung Display. The TV will probably be slightly slower due to the lower refresh rate and picture processing chip since it's a TV.
I love my 65in S95B for 4K gaming, it's a beast. I have it running at 144hz, 10 bit colour with VRR on running off of my 4090 with a few simple tweaks in the Nvidia control panel, it's an absolute glorious gaming experience. I also have the G8 OLED sitting next to it. My S95B has been perfect, not a single issue. Perfectly straight out of the box, not a single issue so far. I also have two of them, both were perfect out of the box.
@@deadbc77 beautiful game on the oled
thanks after watching or hearing some reviewer getting excited for oled for gaming monitor more and more ive wonder if the oled burn in is still a problem in mass production like the ips and such thanks for answering this really good quality insight for consumer monitor market!
Hi, been using a LG G2 for more than a year... gaming, browsing, davinci, etc etc, no issues at all. It's like a car, if you take care of it, will be fine on the long run 😋
Glossy always wins as no crystal effect, better sharpness and more contrast as matte panels catches any photons in the room covering all with matte reflections. While you can add antireflective coating on glossy screen (same coating as on the lens) you cannot do this with matte screens. The problem is that majority of users still thinks that matte screens "reflects less", while in reality it is the opposite.
Yes you can make a matte screen glossy and vice versa... ebay has sheets of screen protectors you can buy.
And I would argue the further the distance of the matte laminate the worse the effects are, so it should really be as close as possible to the pixel and therefore they should default to matte.
As for the "majority of users" statement, in reality its not an opposite they diffuse light that hits the surface reducing the peak brightness of a light source viewed as a reflection, which is what you want. If you want to see your eyes staring back at you in the middle of the night be my guest...
@@ilusjon Screens are glossy by nature. Mate film doing all worse collecting all the light even from sides, crushing contrast to smth like 1:300 even in softly-light room. Glossy screens can be covered with anti-glare coating (commonly used on TVs screen, reducing reflection to smth like Fresnel IOR 1.1), matte cannot. I do no accept heavy spoiling image of matte film. "Dave2D How Has Nobody Made This Before" (search on TH-cam) showed what I knew since first LCD began to appear in CGI studios.
Considering the 2nd question, the Problem with the Mini connectors IS the survivability of the connecter. They will Break faster!
Its basically planed obsolesence
Owner of a C9 55 lg 4 years old for normal TV use and PC gaming... no burn in issues...with an average of 7-8 hours of daily use...well implemented OLED CARE maybe is the thing here with lg's...same for my dedicated C1 48 they have both perfect grayscale testing last day
I'm looking at getting the LG OLED 27" 240Hz next Black Friday. Hoping they will drop a couple hundred dollars to like $800. Which is still crazy for a monitor but at least attainable.
Do you think Microsoft will support triangle sub-pixel at some point to avoid fringing?
Multiple OLED screens are also cut from a single larger sheet of glass, depending on how 27" screens fit, it might not be possible to make many of them ( squeezing 2 on the small space left over from 4 48" screens as an example) this would make them more costly to manufacture and also would mean less were available, making them potentially more valuable
Anything is possible when money is to be made. There are too many gigantic OLED's on the market to the point of the displays being too saturated because of too many options. Monitor direction is what should be focused on from now on.
@@Kizzster They are going to sell more TVs hand over first than a monitor, that's the reality of the situation.
OLED has been specifically made for TVs and the motherglass has been optimized for such use. Until motherglass runs used specifically for monitors begins to ramp up, prices are going to be higher.
Let's also just remember that this happens with every new tech with monitors. When 120hz 1440p IPS came out (in response to everyone buying cheap B-tier Korean/Chinese monitors that were overclockable) they were around $800...in 2014.
@@winebartender6653 Them making OLED monitors is risk free. People keep making the same excuse for panel cutting. People think monitors will be non profitable for some reason. There is no 4K OLED monitor at 32" if there was those will sell out like hotcakes. There are hundreds of big OLED's models widely available to buy and most people still do not buy OLED, The one that sells the most is the LG C2 which is a bargain.
@@Kizzster yeah but if they don't make 32" 4K OLED monitors with a high enough refresh rate taking just convince you to pay anymore for whatever. Because then you have to or you don't play.
I switched from glossy monitor to matte monitor after 21 years being a glossy fan boy (using it for study, work, gaming and entertainment) I can definitely say that matte finish is just fine or as good as glossy. There are some flaws of course, but I also can say the same thing for glossy finish. The reason I finally made the switch to matte because 1. I want higher specs monitor (higher refresh rates for gaming), 2. I need bigger size (don't want dual setup), 3. Need higher resolution (this is obviously tied to the bigger size spec). I just don't think holding on to glossy finish and missing out on the higher specs (refresh rates, resolution and bigger size) is making sense anymore. But if it's OLED monitor, I'd definitely want it in glossy finish. My OLED TV is looking very good with the glossy finish.
I have a 65" WOLED LG B7A I bought on black Friday in 2017 with 16k hours on it (~8.5 hours per day) that was used as a living room PC monitor for around 3 of those years and otherwise mixed-use in the living room ever since. I disabled all the power saving/eco mode settings shortly after I bought it. 0 burn-in issues whatsoever. It really makes me wonder what all the fuss is over burn in, since I'm not sure what I'd need to do besides intentionally put static image elements on the screen for months at a time.
At the same time, an older IPS display I used at my work office has been on 24/7 since the beginning of COVID displaying my company's logo on my desktops lock screen that I remote into every day. That thing has pretty bad burn-in, to the point where you can clearly see the company logo in a black background. It's not like non-OLED monitors are magically immune to burn-in.
The issue of brightness with OLEDs and BFI (black frame insertion) becomes less of a problem at higher refresh rates and duty cycles. While it may not be possible to achieve the same MPRT as with strobed LCDs, MPRT can be made adjustable, allowing for a reasonable blur reduction with OLED BFI without a significant decrease in brightness. With adjustable MPRT, users can choose the balance between blur and brightness. Crosstalk is not a problem with OLEDs as they do not "strobe" like LCD backlights, but instead use a pixel-on and pixel-off pass to adjust the scanwindow size thus changing mprt. OLEDs have more potential for motion clarity, particularly at higher refresh rates, where LCDs are hindered by crosstalk.
All they have to do with oled is rolling scan black frame insertion. Similar to how a crt scans "pixels" onto the screen and thusly fades in the same scan pattern. OLED tvs already use rolling scan black frame insertion. Not using it on gaming oled monitors is just laziness. I even get people saying "i wont use it so they shouldnt do it" well i dont use g-sync so they shouldnt use it. They don't realize how ignorant they are. No one is saying force black frame insertion on at all times, just like g-sync isnt on at all times. But having it as an option to toggle on would be great for those that will use it. Wish my alienware qd-oled had bfi.... The motion clarity in fps games would be night/day.
@@goblinphreak2132 I got the AW qdoled and indeed miss bfi for 60fps content compared to a low persistence display, responsetimes only get you so far.
@@brett20000000009 yeah i have the Alienware qd-oled myself and i really wish it had bfi.... My 60hz somy a8h has it and its godly for movies/tv/anime with super smooth motion.
i have the g8 oled and it does have bfi in the game menu BUT its greyed out whatever i do. There is also bfi in the picture menu which is also greyed out whatever i do EXCEPT when i use the tv's processor for browsing, yt, etc (so not a pc signal). But for pc use i just cant enable it, its always greyed out. I hope they make an update and fix this. And i think they will.
I love black frame insertion. I'd definitely use it.
I have the awdwf 34 qd OLED. I have had 7 ultrawides, all IPS, prior to getting this.
What I can say is that this monitor is a 100% game changer. The one thing I wish it had was 240hz. But I assume next gen will. Even at 165hz, this thing is just so damned quick
Dude , with OLED, there is virtually no difference between 165 and 240. I have the 175hz version and it literally could not be any perceptibly clearer. Better then any 240 non oled I’ve ever used.
@@enzog1078 compared to each other, OLED v OLED. There are indeed input response related reductions between 165(175) and 240. (When capped)
That said, I have no complaints with this monitor whatsoever. But, being able to actually produce 35% more visible frames is definitely an upgrade. Just a marginal one ;).
I agree overall that OLED 175 is virtually 300+Hz IPS/va/tn. And the pixels are dang lightning quick.
Generally my goal with 240 is running with no frame cap to increase my 1% lows. Which in some games, is as low as 130 due to capping at 163. Whereas running uncapped, my 1% lows are closer to 200. It's not so much the high end of Hz range I want to see as much as I want my lows maxed out for maximum butteryness.
13700k/4090 build, fwiw
The mathed out difference between 165/240hz is about 1.5ms overall. When we are granular already with the speeds the oleds produce, percentage wise, it's not insignificant. Not to mention, a smoother overall rendering sequence. Yes, I'm fully aware I'm splitting hairs between 175/240 both OLED, but, if they are there to split, split them I shall! Haha
@@OscyJack- why does capping your fps effect your 1% lows? I didn't know that was a thing.
I have a similar setup except I'm on a 4080 and a LG C1. I'll usually set a cap of 120 so I don't go over
@@DarkReturns1 lows are always lower than the high and formulaic in nature. So if you prevent the fps from reaching it's max, you in turn also prevent the lows from being higher, if that makes sense. It's an artificial low
@@OscyJack- that doesn't make any sense. That's not how it works at all. 1% lows will be the same regardless. They are caused by bottlenecks in the system or game engine which will vary depending on scene. It could be the GPU, CPU or memory causing the worst frames.
Great Q&A!
Hello! As you use the reviewer-only LDAT to measure latency, have you considered doing a piece comparing its results to something available for a regular enthusiast? i.e. SysLat or OpenLDAT.
glossy does not raise blacks. it actually increases contrast and black levels are slightly improved because it doesn't spread glare all over the screen like a matte finish.
In theory in a lab setting. In practice you will see all kinds of mirror reflections.
@@kwinzman yup. Deeper overall blacks, but in the area where the reflection is, you get it's full effect. A black mirror of whatever is behind you.
@@paulcox2447 or worse.. your own face
On glossy the colours also pop more and bright highlights are higher in detail for example when looking into the sun or sky in games. Matte quality loss is noticeable, Don't get why it's used for OLED's you have per pixel illumination yet it's covered in vegetable grease on top it all.
@kwinzman Ill personally come to your home and board up your windows and steal your light bulb, ie turn off the light child
G-Sync Ultimate has several advantages including HDR Hardware Tonemapping which makes a huge difference. You can see that by comparing the AW3423DW and the AW3423DWF. I have both next to each other and the DWF has issues with HDR especially with the bright highlights being capped.
I do like the GSYNC modules, I don’t care that I’m paying a premium for it. I have the predator x35 and I’m not getting another monitor without GSYNC ultimate
Exactly I mentioned this in another comment. When you enable HDR and out both screens next to exchother the DWF colors look wacky as hell.
HUB of course doesn't really visualisevthis for the user because alll they show in the reviews is a bunch of charts and numbers - they need to show screens next to each other on video
I've had the G8 OLED 10 weeks, the monitor is awesome. The ports are no problem. It comes with a display port to mini display port cable. You can also buy a decent hdmi 2.1 adaptor for a few £s from amazon. All old cables you have work just fine, I'm using mine, no need to change your cables at all. I believe the ports were chosen to keep the panel slim at the back without having a bit of plastic protruding out. Honestly the input ports have made no issue to my use. The monitor is very sleek and stylish, it looks fantastic and built very well too!
I was about to buy this monitor, however what threw me back is the Burn In problem. I could see in a store how it already had burn in marks, so I suggest you take care of it. I have thrown away three high-end OLED TVs, and all of them at some point began to show signs of burn-in until later it was impossible to see, and I was careful.
@@martinfodor2848 I definitely do look after my screens and take a few extra precautions. I autohide the taskbar and hide all desktop icons. I use roundedtb to take away the annoying white line left with windows 11 when autohiding the taskbar. I use wallpaper engine and have about 20/30 moving wallpapers set up to change every 2 minutes. I have my brightness set to between 5/8 for desktop / internet browsing. With the montiors inbuilt game mode feature on, windows sees it as a different screen, it keeps the settings you enable for each when switching between both. In game mode I have HDR on and the brightness set to about 35ish. When I'm done gaming I switch it back off to change the settings back to no HDR, lower brightness etc. If I leave my montior for an extended period of time I turn it off and turn it back on when I sit down, same for my 65in S95B too. I don't hide any in game stuff though, I enjoy games the way they're supposed to be. My set up is running off of a 4090 via 2x hdmi cables. I know there is a small risk burn in can happen, for me I'd rather take that risk. With the precautions I take, I don't fear screen burn, but, if it does happen, it happens. Once you go OLED you can't go back, it's just so much better.
When I got my 4k 144hz and 3080 I expected to switch to 1080p native quite often, but so far I don't think I've done it once. In the cases I needed the performance, DLSS2 was enough. Ever since I switched to the 4090, I haven't even thought about it, 4k all the time
2160p is insane. I switched from a 4K 144hz IPS to a 3440x1440p AW QD-OLED. I use DSR to downscale a higher than native resolution, which helps a ton. But I hope to see an actual OLED monitor at 2160p or 5160x2160 UW.
4090 is the ultimate luxury. I was hesitant but ultimately glad I got one.
@@rpospeedwagon I bought my 4090 partly for work and then I got fired 3 weeks later :D It's a good card though. Can't wait for Racer RTX
As someone that uses my computer for both productivity and gaming I could never buy an OLED display due to burn in. I feel like a lot of or maybe most people are in the same boat, yet monitor manufacturers seem to steaming ahead with OLED displays. I'm starting the think that they just love the short lifespan of these monitors as it will drive additional sales as people replace their "burnt in" monitors.
lol your loss. Only morons get Oled Burn In. It's like throwing your pc in the water then blaming Intel for your pc frying. "Intel fry is a real concern guys". Keep the burn in safety features on, make your taskbar hide when not used, use slideshow or active background, don't leave stuff on your desktop, turn off monitor/when or sleep when not in use, use pixel refresher once or twice a year, and tahhh dahhhh no burn in. Dipshits don't do any of that and leave the same things up for hours on end daily then wonder why they get burn in. I've been using my CX daily for pc use, console, movies, streaming, and my girlfriend is constantly using it while I'm at work for past 2 years and looks as good as it did when I got it. If you wanna ride the shortbus cause the dentheads in it are crying wolf then have at it.
Oh man I agree with this 100% percent. I personally don’t do a lot of productivity on my computer, but I do spend a lot of time behind my computer just browsing and also gaming. I’ll let it’s just a no go for me personally when it comes to PC’a. Yes the image quality is beautiful, but I don’t wanna be worried every time I leave my PC on for hours on end with a lot of static images on the display.
Monitors are expensive and a lot of the time I feel like people don’t change their monitor every couple of years and if I have a lot of static images on my screen for many hours throughout the years, I expect burn in to happen fairly fast.
When I buy a monitor I want to plug it in maybe a few tweaks here and there and that’s it and if I want to leave my pc on for hours on end with a lot of static images I want to be able to do that without any worries
Short lifespan + high price. Of course they would be happy to sell it. That's why it's hyped so much now.
@@emiel255 what panel would you recommend for a new monitor now?
@@stanislavkimov2779 definitely Mini LED I want companies to focus on that and improving this panel because the more zones it has the more it will look like OLED without all the OLED risks plus better brightness (HDR)
This was a great great recap…
That’s why I will wait for the QD OLED gaming monitors.😊
They already exist.
This is what I think,
You are buying a monitor with certain values so it should be complete as they announce, and ready to use or without cable with a recommended link for sale.
And as usual thank you for your time and commitment to the people😁
only 3 years for a monitor is bullshit....
I think the Gsync module is still relevant in the high end product segment and having the module does offer the best experience. I'm happy they finally let Gsync function with the open standards though. I use Gsync with my RTX 3080 12gb on a Monoprice Dark Matter 27" 1440p 180hz IGZO-IPS monitor, a great lesser-known monitor. I have never been satisfied when viewing the UFO test until doing so on this monitor. I was honestly in disbelief, zero motion blur / ghosting. I think the IGZO TFT Backplane is helping out with pixel response times or something. This is a monitor to consider with an MSRP of $350 but on sale more often than not for as low as $200. The Sharp 10bit IGZO-IPS panel sets it apart from the rest. It also has a USB C with power and display over USB.
29:40 There used to be a ton of glossy monitors on the market, but they sold poorly (source, I worked at Best Buy in college). Gaming glossy monitors almost always went to clearance.
So really, while there may be some people that like glossy gaming monitors, that number appears to be very low, to the point where it isn't worth the risk to the manufactures.
I've had the Alienware OLED ultrawide for a few months now (it was the previous model not the newer release), and I've experienced no issues with burn-in so far. Granted, I've adjusted how I use the monitor (short times to turn monitor off, letting it do the care actions, auto-hiding taskbar, etc.), but it hasn't been a very large adjustment to working with a non-OLED monitor.
I have the same monitor and have had no issues either. When it requests to go into the pixel refresh phase I always let it run.
You won’t have issues with basic use, this is just not an issue now. I used an Alienware 13 for hundreds of hours on Overwatch, no GUI burn in whatsoever. The ONLY thing I did was use auto hide for the task bar, and I don’t think even that was necessary. Mind you, that was a 2016-era panel, nothing like the ones today.
What I don't understand about this new hype for OLED monitors in 2023 is that as you mentioned in the video, OLED technology, no matter how much prevention it has, still has a risk of burn in. I just saw the new G8 Oled in a Samsung store and it's all burned. I have thrown away 3 OLED TVs, which were amazing, but didn't last more than 2 years, and now I see that all the new monitors are OLED or QD OLED that also manifest this problem. Burnin's guarantee is not the solution, since it is respected in few countries. Their business is that you change the monitor every two years. If you leave a static image with red or yellow, it burns very quickly. I ended up buying a 4k IPS monitor for this reason. I can't compare the image quality with an oled, but I also don't want to live paranoid taking care of a monitor (as I did with TVs)
I highly doubt that the samsung monitor had burn in. That sounds like bs
If someone is looking to keep their monitor/tv for the long haul I always advise to buy anything but OLED. But for myself, have no problem “upgrading” for the best image fidelity
Great Q&A and equally infuriating because of stupid reasons companies prefer making matte screens and ripping one off with OLED prices if they'll just sell.
As someone who hates glossy screens, I hope those companies keep doing what they’re doing.
@@user-be7pw3sm7d get windows blinds and then tell me there's no difference.
Or keep your matte screen and let others have fun too.
ive had my ips 1ms g whatever for 5 years now and ive never had a single issue 10000000% will buy again
Good review.
I don't bother with monitors myself since i just use my computer on the big TV on my wall, and always have since the "HD Ready" 720p days.
However, i was thinking of dusting off all my old gear from back in the day, and doing testing again, and i'm thinking of getting a monitor for that.
Are there any monitors that are vendor-agnostic, or even have both FreesSync and G-Sync?
2023 feels like the year to buy a new monitor
I got an AW3423DW last year. Pretty impressive. Looking forward to what we see this year
@Jesus is Lord after much consideration I must decline. My apologies
which Marketing department are you working for ?
My next monitor will have DisplayPort 2. So maybe I'll wait another year to upgrade.
Some are holding out until 2030 when MicroLED displays are under $1000. But they don't realize the tech industry will be dangling a new tech by that time claiming MicroLED is garbage in comparison. Maybe they bring out SED displays that should have came to market decades ago. 😄
People will want the highest brightness possible (which is not needed in a dark room), while also wanting a glossy display (which is only usable in a dark room). The hypocrisy lol.
There is something about Heatsinks helping about Burn In.
Well among TVs at the very least
Great answers!!
IMO having to drastically change the way you use a monitor to avoid burn-in just makes it not worth at all to get OLED. I much prefer a sliiiiiightly worse image on a monitor that I can use the way I truly want.
You dont have to at all. I use my 2019 OLED as monitor and it has no burn in. Just set brightness to ~50%. Pixels on OLEDs wont really care about that.
@@theipc-twizzt2789 That's not enough, I need a screen to last at least 10 years with 15h/day of static images. Oh and what's the point of having a better picture with an OLED if you then have to lower the brightness making the picture bad again in comparison to an LCD which you can run at the brightness you want for often over a decade.
@@why_though I'd agree with you. However it seems you'd be quite lucky to get 10 years out of any tech being made these days. Nothing is really designed to last that long anymore. Even if technically SHOULD last longer.
@@why_though Are you looking at your screen 15 hours a day? If it's a screen used in a store to display a menu or something then there's no point in getting oled
@@why_though Oled doesn't need to be as bright as lcd to have a great even much better image. Unless you are in a bright room. I find Oled easier on my eyes than my extra bright washed out lcd screen colors.
you don't have to worry about burn in if you wear an anti static bracelet.
Tim, I really hope you do try to get in touch with LG, Samsung, etc, on why they're not including black frame insertion on their OLEDs.
Because at the end of the day, they're not going to include it if people don't ask for it. And you are one of the few that can be a voice for consumers here.
And it works the other way too. You can talk about it more and make more consumers aware of it, and why it's important, so hopefully we'll see more demand for it over time.
But yeah, it really does make a huge difference. I have one of the few (only?) OLEDs that support it: the Gigabyte Aorus FO48U. It only does it at 120hz, but it's better than nothing. And with Special K, and can enable software BFI in combination with hardware BFI to achieve a de facto 60hz BFI as well, which is great for locked 60fps games.
Honestly, if I had the option, I'd use black frame insertion WAY more than Freesync. But it's not really viable even on my monitor because sometimes I'd rather run at a frame rate between 60 and 120, instead of a fully locked 60 or a fully locked 120fps.
I prefer matte monitors, for exactly the reason you listed: dual use, and have a window directly behind me :’)
And I’ll be replacing my XG27UQ 4K monitor with the upcoming Asus or LG 240hz 1440p OLED ones
G-sync module still does a better job than Freesync imo, lower LFC range too. Hope NV update it soon..
G-Sync module is such a wasted opportunity..... it a fucking FPGA, yet you can't do anything with it, there are monitors with G-Sync module that have horrible gamma correction/overdrive settings, are locked to nvidia only for g-sync etc. If they made it flashable with open source or semi-open source firmware so you can fix the issues that i.e. Dell created, it would justify the extra cost.
Oh boy Holywood would cry so loud that an unlocked FPGA with open source on it would be able to get around the HDCP encryption somehow or something. And Nivida would hate if people make it work better with AMD GPUs.
And it also wouldn't exactly instill confidence that the factory testing / certification is still valid that right now, which currently is the main selling factor for those G-Sync monitors as far as I understand.
@@kwinzman HDCP encryption definitely works though, no piracy exists thanks to it.
@@Gragagrogog Yes, it's absolutely perfect! Piracy is a thing of the past! 😉
One question to speculate about strobing OLED is: Is the wear caused by the peak brightness and voltage needed, or average power? So far all the burn-in mitigations suggest that it's about the average power and heat, meaning that for example, strobing half time at double the brightness shouldn't be an issue.
This is my understanding as well, otherwise I can't really see why x brightness at a small window is fine but not in a large window.
the Gsync monitor guarantee a single overdrive mode, among other things, that's the branding certainty, you can get the same with freesync, but... is almost never the case
The rule is very simple. If burn in is not a concern, they would put a warranty against it.
Not true. My alienware has 3 years warranty. But users are already seeing burn in. Not even been a year yet.
Regarding the G-SYNC module, AFAIK it also allows for a better range of VRR support (basically 1Hz and up to the maximum the panel can produce). Unlike monitors that are "G-SYNC Compatible" that don't have the same support.
My friend owns an Odyssey G7 27" which he uses with an NVIDIA GPU, but the VRR range *starts* from 80Hz and that's not very good. My friend says (I didn't see for myself) that it feels bad and weird.
If he would have used an AMD GPU then the VRR range would have started from 60Hz which is better but not the best. And still he sees flickering sometimes. Now, that's just one monitor but this is why I really like and prefer monitors with the G-SYNC module, as I have owned 3 so far (one of them is my brother's) and all of them were absolutely flawless.
Your voice is so soothing. :)
I wondered if you could do some testing of kvm switches ? Possibly outside the scope for this channel, but I though I would ask the question.
My thinking being, reading the comments many have desktops \ laptops and then a games console. With a high spec monitor. Some data in the mix, could give us a clue which ones are worth buying and if they work with high refresh screens.
Thank you.
John
3840x1600 please why is this not a more popular resolution? 4k is too much, 3440x 1440 is fine for gaming but kinda sucks for productivity. I really miss those extra vertical pixels
4k is very good for 32", but yea 27" are in a spot where 1440p is too little and 4k is too much.
@@Gragagrogog In the last month, I have tried 48”4k, 38” 3840x1600, 32” 4k, and 34”1440.
38” was a bit too large for that resolution, but otherwise, it was by far my favorite. My 2080ti didn’t struggle with it and the extra pixels (upgrade from 1440) were in just the right places to boost gaming and productivity.
In my opinion, 4k adds a ton more vertical pixels that are useless in gaming since they expand your vertical fov. The sky and ground are rarely that interesting. Increase my horizontal fov all day long. I love that…. 1440 for productivity is just a tad too low, otherwise, I would just stick to that resolution.
I think the reason monitor companies mainly make matte displays is because businesses tend to prefer them. I have seen businesses using gaming monitors for work monitors, and glossy isn't the greatest under the blaring florescent lighting.
Still personally I think glossy still looks better than matte even in bright rooms. Since it sits in one spot you can literally just turn your setup or move the lamp and you don't have the same glare or in many cases matte displays washing out the entire image honestly looks worse to me.
To OLED Burnin: Watched a video from FOMO, he did refer to significant improvements/protections regarding OLED burnin. LG has altered the structur/layout to deal with the problem, according to him. Talking TV panels, of course - yet i would think that improvements transfered into the monitor segment.
Maybe you already covered this in the video and it flew past my head, but I’d like to add to the question at 40:16:
Let’s say you are running an eSports title, e.g. Rocket League with uncapped frames (500+ fps), with these two monitors side by side. Will the 240Hz OLED still *feel* more responsive than the 500Hz TN, considering the overall response times are superior on OLED?
Would be an interesting watch to see you guys testing this out when both of these are out on the market!
Correct me if I'm wrong but monitors with a gsync module have a much wider range of adaptive refresh and usually go down to as little as 1Hz where as a Freesync monitor might only range down to 48Hz for example on a 75Hz panel.