I understand that only elderly monks with death impending would go through this process. The video is very good but doesn't mention this. If true, featuring all those young looking monks is misleading.
It was a mix. Or at least it's certainly was a mix throughout the world where this was done, I can't speak for one very small specific region, but I know that there's stories of people various ages doing this and sometimes we don't have the story we just have the mummy that gets found later in some shrine or temple or piece of pottery that people had forgotten. I think the shortest time frame was over 3 years, so it would be hard for somebody who already knew they were dying to actually have enough time to do this. It was something people had to plan ahead for.
I remember how, in my worst days, I considered not drinking any liquids as a way to leave this world. It would only take a few days. Now I view these thoughts as a weakness I had to defeat and leaving them behind as a strength I've earned. So bizzare to see someone applying the same ideas with the exact opposite logic.
Stunning to consider the power of the human brain. Turning away from the instinct to survive, these men essentially willed the place, time and details of their own deaths. I wonder what was in their minds?
The mind is much more powerful than youd normally think. I hear there was a research that when youre convicted enough, it does kinda happen. Your belief morphs your body. Like researches of: •how some women that are so convinced that theyre pregnant, they start to show symptoms of pregnancy like vomiting, bloating and even their period stops when they arent really pregnant. •older people kept in an environment where they were kept in the timeline when they were in their younger years, everything is like retro or sum. You get the idea. Results show they seem to physically and mentally younger considering their real age
I remember the mummy they put sunglasses on to prevent children from getting too shocked from the image but there's something still humanizing about that action the shows how they still respect and see the Monk as one of their own, like giving a small gift to someone close to you.
@@hamedhosseini4938 well. Necessary or not is a subjective thing. I mean, how can we even say what is necessary and what is not. What makes things necessary? These guys were free. Their freedom reached a level we can’t even understand. "I overcame the desire to conquer the earth" like an old greek once said. Nothing we did and nothing we will ever do will have any impact to the whole thing. What we do till the sun dies is just relevant for us. It is based on our opinions only. But our opinions are irrelevant either. So what is necessary? The things everybody do, to achieve worthless shit that we think we need? I think what they did deserves some respect, cause they taught us something about our extreme desires to be always the best. Life is pain and they managed to stand out from living beings No basic needs. Transcendental.
What I find interesting that the monks died under their terms, when they wanted, the way they wanted and they had control of their conscious at the moment of death utilizing meditation techniques. Even more attracting is that nobody can desecrate their bodies, like they are doing in hospital morgues nowadays, specially to those whose relatives opted for budget cremation.
Personally I dont think they were meditating during death, I think the box just secures some of them in the seated position. That ones that collapse etc would be considered failures.
I m Buddhist. His body is not mummified indeed he reached a state of emptiness (Engligthment) he is free of worldly desire, he have accumulated a degree of good karma, may he reborn in a purified dharma realm to benefit all of beings.🙏🙏🙏
@Daring Truth Its not in the name of anything, you’re doing it for you, and it is okay because its grown ass people making a choice for themselves. Theres different versions of reaching the highest consciousness, this one you’re seeing is basically reaching enlightenment through physical punishment. One of many others that are completely different but ultimately have an end goal. The whole point of obtaining the highest point of consciousness is to free yourself from the cycle of reincarnation and achieve Nirvana or the after life, whatever. With great experimenting with your own consciousness, you can recall your past and future lives, or even the live you’re in right now. Instead of just saying no. Theres many different methods to these experiences. Human language is a curse when it comes explaining anything of the sort. Anyone can experiment with their mind if they want too, and its not just things like the after life thats achieved, many other experiences are obtained too. “The experimenting of consciousness is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural” Emperor Palpatine (kinda)
Wow the blood of Jesus Christ I have no words for this man will put themselves through this trauma to be worshipped , to become a God amongst others , as if our creator isn’t already exsisting
This video deserves more views and likes. All respect to your effort that you did to collect all of those information and to explain it in a simple obvious video to us. Keep up!
Everybody gangsta until someone moves something and the display case shatters "Your resourcefulness in overcoming this trial speaks to the promise of a hero..."
I do wonder at the way the diet creates an anti-bacterial environment in the body to prevent the decay post-mortem. I think a medical examination of the process could be interesting for medical treatments of people suffering MRSA or recurring bacterial infections.
It’s a process of ingesting poison (cyanide) in small enough quantities over time so that your body can build tolerance to it, but levels in the tissues become toxic to microbial life. Not only is this not ethical medically, its far too long of a process to be implemented for treatment of acute infection.
The tea is highly poisonous to humans as well as it prevents bacteria that cause their body to decay and maggots after death so it acts as a preservative as it causes vomiting and loss of body fluid
Well the diet had the purpose of creating a hostile environment for bacteria by first dehydrating the substrate (their bodies) as well as eliminating any source of food, i.e muscle (protein) and fat. They also added charcoal to the tomb which absorbs moisture from the air. If such measures were taken by medical practitioners to treat infections then the patients would probably die of their weak state before the infection killed them. Well no probably not, because severe infections can quickly cause death by sepsis but destroying the body to try to cure it is not really a good idea. The fact that they were enclosed in a sealed tomb also prevented the growth of aerobic bacteria. S. aureus is an aerobic species so imagine depriving a person of oxygen to kill the bacteria infecting them....
As a man who is now 50 and having suffered from disability and untreatable agonizing pain since I was 18, I really feel heart broken when I see anyone suffering, especially troubling when voluntary.
I went to the “founder”s shrine in Koyasan in the summer of 2019. I had never heard of the term Sokushinbutsu before, I remember reading on a plaque that Kukai was supposedly in a state of eternal meditation. Pretty interesting that he did manage to become immortal in a way.
@@freelineinafreeworld5980 Don't worry, you won't have to :) The point about the religious concepts of an afterlive, or, as the buddhists have it, reincarnation, is really just to have the working poor accept their lot in life without struggle. Like, live your shit life as well as you can, or else...! Funny though how the Abrahamic religions construct eternal heaven and hell for that purpose, whereas the Buddhists see it as a punishment to return to this reality, and offer the final exit as the highest possible reward. Haven't fully wrapped my head around that one yet.
I'm certainly not a monk by any means but I think I might somewhat understand what they were trying to achieve. I had 3 out of body experiences in a row while listening to the tibetin singing bowls it seemed I was being called by ancient monk's when I sank into the experience. It does definitely feel like you leave your body and go to the spirit world. So perhaps they believe when you leave your body for the last time you can remain in that rehlm. Very hard to say but I think I at least get what they were trying for.
@@Clawstrider_enderpearl It's typical of christian fundamentalists to be overly scared of demons, in the face of anything "supernatural", purely based on fear and dogma, especially in america. If instead, you speak from personal experience and true reflection, then feel free to share. Otherwise, your opinion is likely safe to ignore. *not even being sarcastic*
I heard a story in 8th grade from a WW2 vet that i still remember clear as day. They were conducting an operation in the mountains, where the americans had dug tunnels to traverse the landscape. Vets unit was being followed by a Japanese unit not far behind so they set up a trap to collapse both ends of the tunnels when a majority of them jad gone inside. Days later, vet's unit returned to exume what was ñeft lf the Japanese men and discovered they had lined themselves criss crossed along the walls. Awaiting a suffocating death. I still think about him, im sure hes long gone now but it stuck with me.
Orthodox monks believe that the body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and a sacred gift from God, not something to be disregarded or harmed. Their goal in ascetic practices is to purify the soul and draw closer to God, not to escape or reject the self. Rather than extreme physical denial or self-sacrifice, Orthodox asceticism involves fasting, prayer, and humility, aiming to bring body and soul into harmony with God’s will. This approach values life as sacred, emphasizing transformation through love and repentance over any form of self-harm or self mummification.
Orthodox monks seek a balanced ascetic life, where health and moderation support their spiritual journey. Their practices are disciplined and intentional, but they’re not aimed at extreme physical deprivation or harm. The purpose of fasting, prayer, and solitude is to deepen their communion with God, cultivate humility, and purify the soul-not to reject the body itself. In this way, Orthodox monasticism upholds the sanctity of life, seeing the body as integral to a lifelong journey of prayer and spiritual growth, rather than something to be extinguished or sacrificed.
Exactly, however these people won’t listen they like something new and exotic and they ironically listen to every other religion but mock Christianity and refuse to see the truth. ☦☦
well mostly they stop just eating things like meat, dairy, and alcohol for periods of time. They don't just starve themselves to death like the monks in the video do. The body is a temple and keeping it healthy glorifies God in its own way.
@@DucatiQueen first of all you didnt watch the video? They aint exactly worshipped, they do it so they can help human kind, also ur using ur precepts of hell like in abrahamic religions, which are as dumb and bs
We think its crazy and judge quickly. Especially in the west. We are least spiritual and nihilistic place on earth. The west is quite devoid of meaning. So acts like this I found profound even if extreme.
@@spritualelitist665 agree, we are so brainwashed by our own main stream western culture, slowly dominating the world, that anything beyond our cultural boundaries is considered stupid, useless or by even more ignorant people straight satanic.
I find it interesting how all religions can be either a source of peace, love and self improvement/accountability or a source of punishment and/or hatred, even going as far as to use it as an excuse to avoid accountability for your negative actions altogether. You can see this exemplified by how many branches of buddhism such as this one focus on punishment as a form of discipline and self improvement, while others focus more on self care and self esteem, which you can see in buddhist practices that are even recommended by therapists nowadays, like meditation, mindfulness and yoga. Or some pagan religions that practice animal sacrifices while others have a respect for nature and every living being as their core. Or for a more common example, how many branches of christianity are based on hatred for everyone who's different and preach abstinence from every earthly pleasure while others follow the "love thy neighbour" rule and focus on love and acceptance. I'm not religious myself, I'm personally agnostic, but I have an interest in studying different religions and mythology, so I enjoy learning about these subjects.
I find it interesting how they where willing to go through such pain and torture, in hopes of protecting humans on earth. I can't imagine the stomach pains they would have.
Its not pain nor torture. They become so invulnerable to such instincts that their is no pain , no urges. Its the most purest form of meditation , what is pain but a fragmentation of our mind allowing us to survive and heal. For them it is a distraction from the one true purpose and meaning , God.
I don't know yet what the documentary says but it's not to protect humans on earth, it's to become nirvana themselves so they don't have to be reincarnated again and live a life full of suffering again.
@@privatenoneofyourbusiness5292 i don't understand how that's conceptually possible honestly What would that feel like? Wouldn't that be boring and ultimately defeat the whole purpose? Also , isn't suffering what makes life so....alive and refreshing? That we all suffer but that's what makes our better days shine more
@@lukky6648 I don't personally believe it, but I heard it in another documentary about this. And no, a life without suffering doesn't seem boring to me. There shouldn't be any suffering for anybody or any living creature in my opinion.
Many people ask why I believe that when a person experiences extreme heartache and depression in life the kind of internal pain that a person can feel when loosing a loved one or a child the kind of pain that requires special kinds of intervention and instruction on how to separate you’re mind and physical state from worldly pain and painful emotions I think we seek these kinds of things and what the people went through during those times was probably more harsh than we modern people can think of in our minds .
This process, with the idea they'd be granted the power to help humankind is a beautiful idea. I think it shows the compassion of Budha, and how that can be interpreted. How determined and good one must be to go through this incredibly difficult process to help others and exist in a state of all knowing bliss
It kinda makes me jealous how they can be some content even when they know they are dying. They truly see the world in a different way. I wish I could see it for a single minute like they saw it. Maybe some were terrified but kept a really good game face, but the others who were so content to die so they could attempt Nirvana is just something most people can't perceive.
It was a pointless pursuit and a testament to the foolishness of man, there is no honor in making yourself nothing to enter oblivion regardless of the willpower it took to get there.
I came here because I am reading "Thing Like a Monk" by Jay Shetty, and he mentions this practice. Wow. This video gave me all the answers I didn't even know i had about Shokushinbutsu lol
What confused me, is how is this healthy for the common good? Wouldnt their life purpose be served better if they continued to live and teach others to be selfless and kind? Wouldnt this make less of an impact than living for x more years teaching others and whatnot?
Andrew Hamilton suicide so they can be worshipped is a guarantee ticket to hell if you ask me. This is stupidity at a " higher level " ......no pun intended 😂
@@DucatiQueen you have no idea of what you saw in this very superficial video. hence your opinion is completely based on wrong assumptions. i doubt you would research more into this topic cause i believe you one of those "man in the sky " fanatics therefore you lack the ability to grasp complex things such as this.
Cus this is an extreme path of discipline and they believe they will transcend to a state were they can help the world in a way more significant way...
@@sniperpronerfmods9811 Jesus never existed. He is a complete copy of various pagan gods that came before him, even the communion is a copy of the roman cult of Mithra. The shroud of turin is a hoax, it was made in 1300 A.D.
I like how he calls it a “dangerous practice.” X3 It’s literally making your body stop functioning! I feel that “dangerous practice” is a really strange euphemism.
As much as these eccentric but misguided men may have convinced themselves otherwise, this practice *is* in fact suicide (not to mention a waste of time) the idea that their remains would then be worshipped like some grisly dried out tribute to the power of self denial, is also weirdly narcissistic, for a group claiming to be free of ego. Beyond this ghoulish form of assisted dying, the corpse still requires a fair amount of maintenance from the monk's colleagues, as the mummified body will only remain that way under specific conditions.
Yes. None of this makes sense - who cares what happens to your body after you die, all that artificial suffering doesn't buy you a ticket to heaven or make you better than anyone else
Starved, isolated, sick. In any other situation this would be considered madness. After years starving alone are your decisions really sound? Your organs (brain included) are atrophied. Death would feel like the obvious next step in that state. How much of it is spirituality vs weakness and the inability to go back. Death is waiting at both ends by 2 and 3. So many dont make it past 1 or 2. I wonder if the ability the think and reason stays with each step. Can they even see? Can they stand in their emaciated condition? By step 2 organ failure has set in and by 3 they might as well expire in the hole they're doa already.
Этим людям нужны не помошники-фанатики, а серьезное образование - в любом возрасте - и психиатр, еще на этапе, когда они только задумались - не просто о самоубийстве, - а о МУЧИТЕЛЬНОМ САМОУБИЙСТВЕ!
Admirable! I find that this encourage me to live my best life. If those heroes can go through all of that willingly then I, too, can work hard until the day I die gloriously or not.
In the anime Dororo (2019) there is a character named Kanekozou, supposedly the victim of a demon, who was a traveler and after death became this sort of wrinkly corpse with a big head and little face feature (kinda like a mummy). He goes around the forest ringing a bell, leading living people to his old gold stash. These sokushinbutsu monks remind me of this character, that it's not a monk but looks a bit like them and helps the living in his death.
I think it is sad that they outlawed this practice of religion for the Japanese people. If this is what they believed in and how they felt they could live and die with honor dignity and respect, then who are we to stop them. That's what I found more so shocking but also interesting is that they outlawed this but then still practice Buddhism
I see what you mean, but sometimes you gotta put a stop to extreme practices from religion Imagine if we were still burning woman because someone thought they were a witch or a demon that came to harm them
@@emillyhatfield456 in this case, the government did stop it. I’m not sure why the Japanese government did, but there are plenty of times where practices in the world are stopped because they are thought to overstep the boundaries of consent to vulnerable persons. Like the practice of overfeeding in Mauritania, foot binding in china, FGM in multiple regions. Those result in people being wounded, this results in people being dead. They are not children, but one could argue that one loses the capability to make sound judgment over their life following periods of starvation, isolation, and outside influence. My own discomfort with the situation is not one that would result in a legal barring, but it is simply that there are people who feel they are so unclean and yearn for ways to purify them self at the cost of their life. It is a tragedy.
Thank you for the video. I was curious about this topic and was searching for more information. It’s one of the best videos I found on the internet about the process.
I think it would be important to respect the peoples wish of how they would like to transcend their physical life. Coming from a hindu background, i might understand the thoughts that carry these practices and if these thoughts are congruent to their driving ones, they would be very deeply humble and loving to humanity.
It is incredible to know that they died and sacrificed themselves on purpose. That does not make it scary to look at them, but very fascinating that this was the reason for their death.
in the final months leading up to the point where the practitioner would be put in the box, I have read that in some cases, they would make tea out of something akin to poison ivy so that it could help dehydrate their insides.
Did they really just die meditating? Or did they start clawing for water and food and begging to be let out, but weren't for whatever reasons? Like that's our basic instinct. Especially in a situation where our actual conscious thought is absent due to a lack of any nutrients, shouldn't they revert to the "lizard brain"?
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I understand that only elderly monks with death impending would go through this process. The video is very good but doesn't mention this. If true, featuring all those young looking monks is misleading.
It was a mix. Or at least it's certainly was a mix throughout the world where this was done, I can't speak for one very small specific region, but I know that there's stories of people various ages doing this and sometimes we don't have the story we just have the mummy that gets found later in some shrine or temple or piece of pottery that people had forgotten. I think the shortest time frame was over 3 years, so it would be hard for somebody who already knew they were dying to actually have enough time to do this. It was something people had to plan ahead for.
Either way, that’s a lot of dedication to your beliefs
I remember how, in my worst days, I considered not drinking any liquids as a way to leave this world. It would only take a few days. Now I view these thoughts as a weakness I had to defeat and leaving them behind as a strength I've earned. So bizzare to see someone applying the same ideas with the exact opposite logic.
indeed. the world is unbelievably subjective
It would not take a few days, u can dry fast for multiple weeks. Its just hard and not suggested
Good to hear youre doing better now!
Take it 1 day at a time, and keep your head up
@@kenertriismaa6859 No, you cannot go without water for multiple weeks. The best any average person will do is a few days then lights out.
That diet also has LOTS of tannins and resin, both of which are used in mummification and tanning leather.
Makes me wonder if this practice was brought back if monks would use weed at all
Stunning to consider the power of the human brain. Turning away from the instinct to survive, these men essentially willed the place, time and details of their own deaths. I wonder what was in their minds?
Mental illness and a scary cult leader masking mass suicide as some spiritual transformation.
@@RileyBanksWho true
They're insane.
The mind is much more powerful than youd normally think. I hear there was a research that when youre convicted enough, it does kinda happen. Your belief morphs your body. Like researches of:
•how some women that are so convinced that theyre pregnant, they start to show symptoms of pregnancy like vomiting, bloating and even their period stops when they arent really pregnant.
•older people kept in an environment where they were kept in the timeline when they were in their younger years, everything is like retro or sum. You get the idea. Results show they seem to physically and mentally younger considering their real age
Insanity.
I remember the mummy they put sunglasses on to prevent children from getting too shocked from the image but there's something still humanizing about that action the shows how they still respect and see the Monk as one of their own, like giving a small gift to someone close to you.
No matter what your opinion on the topic is, one things for sure, it takes a lot of discipline both physically and spiritually to undergo the process
Discipline used on such an unnecessary act is not respected. At least by me.
@@hamedhosseini4938 well. Necessary or not is a subjective thing. I mean, how can we even say what is necessary and what is not. What makes things necessary?
These guys were free. Their freedom reached a level we can’t even understand.
"I overcame the desire to conquer the earth" like an old greek once said.
Nothing we did and nothing we will ever do will have any impact to the whole thing. What we do till the sun dies is just relevant for us. It is based on our opinions only. But our opinions are irrelevant either.
So what is necessary?
The things everybody do, to achieve worthless shit that we think we need?
I think what they did deserves some respect, cause they taught us something about our extreme desires to be always the best.
Life is pain and they managed to stand out from living beings
No basic needs. Transcendental.
@@hamedhosseini4938 Oh, those poor monks. I can't imagine living a life that doesn't get respected by the great Hosseini. 🥺
@@hamedhosseini4938 I am sure they did this for your respect.
@@hamedhosseini4938 To be fair their bodies are still prayed too till this day and revered at temples, when you pass you'll be forgotten for sure.
i swear japan has some of the most interesting religion history and folklore
Monks and these religions aren't only on Japan:]
@Fantastic Cuber india the middle way..japan didnt have external influence for centuries..so they were mre extreme in they're practices.
If you think this is wild check out what they do in Tibet
China too, as much as their govt tries to erase it.
I feel like that's simply due to the current focus being on Japan more than other parts of the world.
Its amazing the amount of self discipline one must have to undertake such a task.
Few people in this era know discipline.
What I find interesting that the monks died under their terms, when they wanted, the way they wanted and they had control of their conscious at the moment of death utilizing meditation techniques. Even more attracting is that nobody can desecrate their bodies, like they are doing in hospital morgues nowadays, specially to those whose relatives opted for budget cremation.
Personally I dont think they were meditating during death, I think the box just secures some of them in the seated position. That ones that collapse etc would be considered failures.
I m Buddhist. His body is not mummified indeed he reached a state of emptiness (Engligthment) he is free of worldly desire, he have accumulated a degree of good karma, may he reborn in a purified dharma realm to benefit all of beings.🙏🙏🙏
@Daring Truth Its not in the name of anything, you’re doing it for you, and it is okay because its grown ass people making a choice for themselves. Theres different versions of reaching the highest consciousness, this one you’re seeing is basically reaching enlightenment through physical punishment. One of many others that are completely different but ultimately have an end goal. The whole point of obtaining the highest point of consciousness is to free yourself from the cycle of reincarnation and achieve Nirvana or the after life, whatever.
With great experimenting with your own consciousness, you can recall your past and future lives, or even the live you’re in right now. Instead of just saying no. Theres many different methods to these experiences. Human language is a curse when it comes explaining anything of the sort. Anyone can experiment with their mind if they want too, and its not just things like the after life thats achieved, many other experiences are obtained too.
“The experimenting of consciousness is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural” Emperor Palpatine (kinda)
@@doll_choden99 you need Jesus
Wow the blood of Jesus Christ I have no words for this man will put themselves through this trauma to be worshipped , to become a God amongst others , as if our creator isn’t already exsisting
This video deserves more views and likes. All respect to your effort that you did to collect all of those information and to explain it in a simple obvious video to us. Keep up!
Thanks ♥️
Monk in Japan
Much better than the history channels video. Informative and no aliens.
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But what if alens mumyfied them when nobody was looking?!
I always wanted to be a Halloween decoration
This is so stupid that it es genius
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@@rinko8527 way to go
Tonto
Lmao
Everybody gangsta until someone moves something and the display case shatters
"Your resourcefulness in overcoming this trial speaks to the promise of a hero..."
I do wonder at the way the diet creates an anti-bacterial environment in the body to prevent the decay post-mortem. I think a medical examination of the process could be interesting for medical treatments of people suffering MRSA or recurring bacterial infections.
It’s a process of ingesting poison (cyanide) in small enough quantities over time so that your body can build tolerance to it, but levels in the tissues become toxic to microbial life.
Not only is this not ethical medically, its far too long of a process to be implemented for treatment of acute infection.
@@Joe-gi3nj you can't build a tolerance to cyanide
its not rocket science, if you remove everything the bacteria will want to eat from your body then they die
The tea is highly poisonous to humans as well as it prevents bacteria that cause their body to decay and maggots after death so it acts as a preservative as it causes vomiting and loss of body fluid
Well the diet had the purpose of creating a hostile environment for bacteria by first dehydrating the substrate (their bodies) as well as eliminating any source of food, i.e muscle (protein) and fat. They also added charcoal to the tomb which absorbs moisture from the air. If such measures were taken by medical practitioners to treat infections then the patients would probably die of their weak state before the infection killed them. Well no probably not, because severe infections can quickly cause death by sepsis but destroying the body to try to cure it is not really a good idea. The fact that they were enclosed in a sealed tomb also prevented the growth of aerobic bacteria. S. aureus is an aerobic species so imagine depriving a person of oxygen to kill the bacteria infecting them....
There’s a part of my body that’s already mummified due to lack of interest from females, I’m already on my way.
DAMN hahahahaha
Hahahaahhaahhaahahahahaha you made my day. Good night ♥️.
The fact that you call them “females” tells me why they’re not interested.
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Creeping much?
As a man who is now 50 and having suffered from disability and untreatable agonizing pain since I was 18, I really feel heart broken when I see anyone suffering, especially troubling when voluntary.
You shouldn’t, they don’t see it as a bad thing
The power to triumph over the Will to life is for few as Schopenhauer says, you are not one of these people, you are the masses
Ypu have a different of suffering than them, and a different experience of it
They saw it as liberating . Very extreme but they seemed to want it
They see it as ‘Nirvana’
I went to the “founder”s shrine in Koyasan in the summer of 2019. I had never heard of the term Sokushinbutsu before, I remember reading on a plaque that Kukai was supposedly in a state of eternal meditation. Pretty interesting that he did manage to become immortal in a way.
that's actually metal as hell
Japanese restaurant
So where is Kukai’s body?
@@chewy99. Somewhere in Koyasan.
@@norikosato7823 That would be interesting to see
Failed and Died
Next birth*
"Ahh shit here we go again"
Lmao
But with no memories of the past life.
Who even knows if “next birth” is a thing. But all the parts of you get recycled into something. So in some ways you do stick around.
Really this is the hardest 😮😢😨🥴😐🫣 this world is IS really sadly Not a place I want to Go again really!!! 😮
@@freelineinafreeworld5980 Don't worry, you won't have to :)
The point about the religious concepts of an afterlive, or, as the buddhists have it, reincarnation, is really just to have the working poor accept their lot in life without struggle. Like, live your shit life as well as you can, or else...! Funny though how the Abrahamic religions construct eternal heaven and hell for that purpose, whereas the Buddhists see it as a punishment to return to this reality, and offer the final exit as the highest possible reward. Haven't fully wrapped my head around that one yet.
I'm certainly not a monk by any means but I think I might somewhat understand what they were trying to achieve. I had 3 out of body experiences in a row while listening to the tibetin singing bowls it seemed I was being called by ancient monk's when I sank into the experience. It does definitely feel like you leave your body and go to the spirit world. So perhaps they believe when you leave your body for the last time you can remain in that rehlm. Very hard to say but I think I at least get what they were trying for.
You should see a doctor. A psychiatric one.
You were astral projecting, those were demons calling you, not monks.
@@Clawstrider_enderpearl I guess you are an american christian fundamentalist.
@@Incantationem correct! How did you know? *in a sarcastic voice*
@@Clawstrider_enderpearl It's typical of christian fundamentalists to be overly scared of demons, in the face of anything "supernatural", purely based on fear and dogma, especially in america. If instead, you speak from personal experience and true reflection, then feel free to share. Otherwise, your opinion is likely safe to ignore. *not even being sarcastic*
MR. Ballen story got me to this video. Sounds really insane to me. 😮
I heard a story in 8th grade from a WW2 vet that i still remember clear as day.
They were conducting an operation in the mountains, where the americans had dug tunnels to traverse the landscape.
Vets unit was being followed by a Japanese unit not far behind so they set up a trap to collapse both ends of the tunnels when a majority of them jad gone inside.
Days later, vet's unit returned to exume what was ñeft lf the Japanese men and discovered they had lined themselves criss crossed along the walls. Awaiting a suffocating death.
I still think about him, im sure hes long gone now but it stuck with me.
Orthodox monks believe that the body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and a sacred gift from God, not something to be disregarded or harmed. Their goal in ascetic practices is to purify the soul and draw closer to God, not to escape or reject the self. Rather than extreme physical denial or self-sacrifice, Orthodox asceticism involves fasting, prayer, and humility, aiming to bring body and soul into harmony with God’s will. This approach values life as sacred, emphasizing transformation through love and repentance over any form of self-harm or self mummification.
Orthodox monks seek a balanced ascetic life, where health and moderation support their spiritual journey. Their practices are disciplined and intentional, but they’re not aimed at extreme physical deprivation or harm. The purpose of fasting, prayer, and solitude is to deepen their communion with God, cultivate humility, and purify the soul-not to reject the body itself. In this way, Orthodox monasticism upholds the sanctity of life, seeing the body as integral to a lifelong journey of prayer and spiritual growth, rather than something to be extinguished or sacrificed.
Exactly, however these people won’t listen they like something new and exotic and they ironically listen to every other religion but mock Christianity and refuse to see the truth. ☦☦
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well mostly they stop just eating things like meat, dairy, and alcohol for periods of time. They don't just starve themselves to death like the monks in the video do. The body is a temple and keeping it healthy glorifies God in its own way.
That slow transcending to death and still be in relatively extraordinary shape is kinda fascinating.
This is just suicide with extra steps. It's super interesting regardless.
Taii potatoie they kill themselfs so they can be worshipped !
That's a ticket to hell right there if you ever interested 😂😂😂
We all die, they die in a way more spiritual and discipled way...
@@DucatiQueen first of all you didnt watch the video? They aint exactly worshipped, they do it so they can help human kind, also ur using ur precepts of hell like in abrahamic religions, which are as dumb and bs
We think its crazy and judge quickly. Especially in the west. We are least spiritual and nihilistic place on earth. The west is quite devoid of meaning. So acts like this I found profound even if extreme.
@@spritualelitist665 agree, we are so brainwashed by our own main stream western culture, slowly dominating the world, that anything beyond our cultural boundaries is considered stupid, useless or by even more ignorant people straight satanic.
Thank you for this video. Very bizzare and and strange, in this time, but facinating. What a sacrifice with a heavy commitment I cannot even fathom.
We got Breath of the Wild Shrines IRL before GTA VI 😭
I can even stop myself from eating for 1 hr. These men and women had the strength and mind power I admire 1000%
I find it interesting how all religions can be either a source of peace, love and self improvement/accountability or a source of punishment and/or hatred, even going as far as to use it as an excuse to avoid accountability for your negative actions altogether.
You can see this exemplified by how many branches of buddhism such as this one focus on punishment as a form of discipline and self improvement, while others focus more on self care and self esteem, which you can see in buddhist practices that are even recommended by therapists nowadays, like meditation, mindfulness and yoga. Or some pagan religions that practice animal sacrifices while others have a respect for nature and every living being as their core. Or for a more common example, how many branches of christianity are based on hatred for everyone who's different and preach abstinence from every earthly pleasure while others follow the "love thy neighbour" rule and focus on love and acceptance.
I'm not religious myself, I'm personally agnostic, but I have an interest in studying different religions and mythology, so I enjoy learning about these subjects.
I m no Buddhist but I have so much respect for these monks ; imagine being prepared to go through all that to transcend and help humanity . Love that
I find it interesting how they where willing to go through such pain and torture, in hopes of protecting humans on earth. I can't imagine the stomach pains they would have.
Its not pain nor torture. They become so invulnerable to such instincts that their is no pain , no urges.
Its the most purest form of meditation , what is pain but a fragmentation of our mind allowing us to survive and heal. For them it is a distraction from the one true purpose and meaning , God.
@@lukky6648 they’re not monotheistic
I don't know yet what the documentary says but it's not to protect humans on earth, it's to become nirvana themselves so they don't have to be reincarnated again and live a life full of suffering again.
@@privatenoneofyourbusiness5292 i don't understand how that's conceptually possible honestly
What would that feel like? Wouldn't that be boring and ultimately defeat the whole purpose? Also , isn't suffering what makes life so....alive and refreshing? That we all suffer but that's what makes our better days shine more
@@lukky6648 I don't personally believe it, but I heard it in another documentary about this. And no, a life without suffering doesn't seem boring to me. There shouldn't be any suffering for anybody or any living creature in my opinion.
The mummies are called Sokushinbutsu, but the process itself of becoming a "living Buddha" is called Sokushin-JObutsu.
Many people ask why I believe that when a person experiences extreme heartache and depression in life the kind of internal pain that a person can feel when loosing a loved one or a child the kind of pain that requires special kinds of intervention and instruction on how to separate you’re mind and physical state from worldly pain and painful emotions I think we seek these kinds of things and what the people went through during those times was probably more harsh than we modern people can think of in our minds .
This process, with the idea they'd be granted the power to help humankind is a beautiful idea. I think it shows the compassion of Budha, and how that can be interpreted. How determined and good one must be to go through this incredibly difficult process to help others and exist in a state of all knowing bliss
I find it interesting that self-sacrifice to the point of martyrdom is prevelant in all religions.
It kinda makes me jealous how they can be some content even when they know they are dying. They truly see the world in a different way. I wish I could see it for a single minute like they saw it. Maybe some were terrified but kept a really good game face, but the others who were so content to die so they could attempt Nirvana is just something most people can't perceive.
I like this comment a lot thank you
It was a pointless pursuit and a testament to the foolishness of man, there is no honor in making yourself nothing to enter oblivion regardless of the willpower it took to get there.
You could see it that way, if you wanted to. It’s always an option to seek that path
@Chef_Alpo points are subjective friendo. The meaning of life is whatever you want it to be.
I started this last year and so far so good. Only 200 more pounds to go.
These are like the monks from the Japanese game breath of the wild. They mediate for 10000 years in a shrine awaiting the hero of hyrulw
5:23 "those fun days spent alone in a dark chamber" Ahhh quarantine...
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“Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today.”
I always wondered why those monks in the shrines looked like raisins
I came here because I am reading "Thing Like a Monk" by Jay Shetty, and he mentions this practice. Wow. This video gave me all the answers I didn't even know i had about Shokushinbutsu lol
Same! 😅
"Thing Like a Monk"?
I'm going to guess it's Think Like a Monk.
They unlocked a cheat code to avoid deaths judgment
You are right, as i feel that our life is just a game of god.
But they still died....
@@ainstonutony Our life is the result of the sin of Adam and Eve and the game of the devil who wants to lead us away from God*
What confused me, is how is this healthy for the common good? Wouldnt their life purpose be served better if they continued to live and teach others to be selfless and kind? Wouldnt this make less of an impact than living for x more years teaching others and whatnot?
Andrew Hamilton suicide so they can be worshipped is a guarantee ticket to hell if you ask me.
This is stupidity at a " higher level " ......no pun intended 😂
@@DucatiQueen you have no idea of what you saw in this very superficial video. hence your opinion is completely based on wrong assumptions. i doubt you would research more into this topic cause i believe you one of those "man in the sky " fanatics therefore you lack the ability to grasp complex things such as this.
@@DucatiQueen believing in hell is stupidity at the higher level
Cus this is an extreme path of discipline and they believe they will transcend to a state were they can help the world in a way more significant way...
@@recipoldinasty triggered much !?
Perhaps you should go to your safe space , need me to call your mom to bring your meds !?
Seems like a waste of a perfectly good monk.
They only do this when they're old
This was a huge part of the inspiration behind breath of the wild. Crazy what games take and reuse in an artistic way
Wow…..there are some truly troubled minds on this plane of existence.
just discovered this video, channel and this practice, amazing!
God bless these powerful human being. They are a 'living' example of the power of the human mind.
Buddha didn't believe in a god or gods
They were part of a suicide cult...
@@shatteredteethofgod jesus was a real person, shroud of Turin is evidence
@@sniperpronerfmods9811 Jesus never existed. He is a complete copy of various pagan gods that came before him, even the communion is a copy of the roman cult of Mithra. The shroud of turin is a hoax, it was made in 1300 A.D.
@@sniperpronerfmods9811all legit historians consider Jesus to be a real historical figure but Shroud of Turin is fake
Great video I loved the bell part 🔥💯❤️
I am curious... how did they find out that specifically these and those plants are good for mummification?
Lateral thinking, presumably. And then successfully employing them
I like how he calls it a “dangerous practice.” X3 It’s literally making your body stop functioning! I feel that “dangerous practice” is a really strange euphemism.
As much as these eccentric but misguided men may have convinced themselves otherwise, this practice *is* in fact suicide (not to mention a waste of time) the idea that their remains would then be worshipped like some grisly dried out tribute to the power of self denial, is also weirdly narcissistic, for a group claiming to be free of ego.
Beyond this ghoulish form of assisted dying, the corpse still requires a fair amount of maintenance from the monk's colleagues, as the mummified body will only remain that way under specific conditions.
Absolute truth.
You must be feeling really euphoric right now!
@OnamKingtheKing I'm hovering around a 5, more indifferent than anything.
Yes. None of this makes sense - who cares what happens to your body after you die, all that artificial suffering doesn't buy you a ticket to heaven or make you better than anyone else
MrBallen done a vid about this last week very interesting
Stuff cool vid fella
What a horrible self-imposed torture..
Starved, isolated, sick. In any other situation this would be considered madness. After years starving alone are your decisions really sound? Your organs (brain included) are atrophied. Death would feel like the obvious next step in that state. How much of it is spirituality vs weakness and the inability to go back. Death is waiting at both ends by 2 and 3. So many dont make it past 1 or 2. I wonder if the ability the think and reason stays with each step. Can they even see? Can they stand in their emaciated condition? By step 2 organ failure has set in and by 3 they might as well expire in the hole they're doa already.
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Thanks for this video. I’ll give it a try.
who’s here from mr.ballen 👀?
I have mad respect for those researchers who helped complete the process for Bukkai.
I wonder how many felt regret when it was too late
All of them.
Этим людям нужны не помошники-фанатики, а серьезное образование - в любом возрасте - и психиатр, еще на этапе, когда они только задумались - не просто о самоубийстве, - а о МУЧИТЕЛЬНОМ САМОУБИЙСТВЕ!
Я согласна. Это ужасно.
0:55 as above, so below hand symbol..
Yep, satanic simble.
Ave satana
Admirable! I find that this encourage me to live my best life. If those heroes can go through all of that willingly then I, too, can work hard until the day I die gloriously or not.
Why on earth are people fascinated with gory disgusting and dehumanizing things like THIS⁉️⁉️⁉️🤨🤨🤨
Gangsta until a giant centipede comes out of them
Isn't the act of making yourself an item worth of worship in it of itself unBuddhist?
In the anime Dororo (2019) there is a character named Kanekozou, supposedly the victim of a demon, who was a traveler and after death became this sort of wrinkly corpse with a big head and little face feature (kinda like a mummy). He goes around the forest ringing a bell, leading living people to his old gold stash. These sokushinbutsu monks remind me of this character, that it's not a monk but looks a bit like them and helps the living in his death.
0:44 og lobby music from pyroworks
Brilliant video 💥
I think it is sad that they outlawed this practice of religion for the Japanese people. If this is what they believed in and how they felt they could live and die with honor dignity and respect, then who are we to stop them. That's what I found more so shocking but also interesting is that they outlawed this but then still practice Buddhism
Really? I understand it can feel deeply important to some people, but sometimes government has to protect people from their own stupid ideas
I see what you mean, but sometimes you gotta put a stop to extreme practices from religion
Imagine if we were still burning woman because someone thought they were a witch or a demon that came to harm them
@@leonardomichua the difference is they are doing it to themselves without harming others. Except emotionally of course.
@@KBcollision as long as it isn’t hurting anyone else why should the government stop it?
@@emillyhatfield456 in this case, the government did stop it. I’m not sure why the Japanese government did, but there are plenty of times where practices in the world are stopped because they are thought to overstep the boundaries of consent to vulnerable persons. Like the practice of overfeeding in Mauritania, foot binding in china, FGM in multiple regions. Those result in people being wounded, this results in people being dead. They are not children, but one could argue that one loses the capability to make sound judgment over their life following periods of starvation, isolation, and outside influence.
My own discomfort with the situation is not one that would result in a legal barring, but it is simply that there are people who feel they are so unclean and yearn for ways to purify them self at the cost of their life. It is a tragedy.
Great reporting my man
It is weird to me that the Japanese take so much pride in suffering.
No you are not alone
One last yt video before bed. The video:
I love this kind of stories related to oriental cultures
Amazing information
Grandma's not dead she's in eternal meditation
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Thank you for the video. I was curious about this topic and was searching for more information. It’s one of the best videos I found on the internet about the process.
Title: The Living Mummies of Japan
The Mummies of Japan: 💀
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Interesting video. What's the song name beginning at 00:37 ?
well, I still have the question of who is that pseudo-mummified monk still animated in those tiktoks I guess, and exactly what year is he born ???
I found interesting how the mind set and spirit can achieve self mummification.
The 1000 days starvation amazing! That’s tough
I think it would be important to respect the peoples wish of how they would like to transcend their physical life. Coming from a hindu background, i might understand the thoughts that carry these practices and if these thoughts are congruent to their driving ones, they would be very deeply humble and loving to humanity.
Next TikTok challenge: mummify yourself!
It is incredible to know that they died and sacrificed themselves on purpose. That does not make it scary to look at them, but very fascinating that this was the reason for their death.
My husband is confused as to why I’m watching this before bed
Ha ha ha ....
Wonder how long it took these monks to achieve enlightenment. Yuduno.
Their motivation was to benefit all sentient beings.
How can they call them living mummy if they are dead.I don't understand
Really cool show of willpower but an utter failure of Gautama's original principle of the third path.
If you visit one, you get a spirit orb. If you visit all of them, they give you a neat outdoor outfit as a nifty gift.
My dumbass thought the thumbnail was Snoke.
Great Video
So in the walking dead... they really just wanted to help us?
lol
in the final months leading up to the point where the practitioner would be put in the box, I have read that in some cases, they would make tea out of something akin to poison ivy so that it could help dehydrate their insides.
Did they really just die meditating? Or did they start clawing for water and food and begging to be let out, but weren't for whatever reasons? Like that's our basic instinct. Especially in a situation where our actual conscious thought is absent due to a lack of any nutrients, shouldn't they revert to the "lizard brain"?
In a state of starvation you do eventually become euphoric. Or at least your brain will stop working properly.
The only way to reach the final stage is to be constantly starving for over 1000 days. I think they would have gotten over that instinct by that point
So interesting. Great video.
Sukushinbutsu only practiced by the Japanese monks and you are showing video footage of Tibetan, Thailand, and Mongolian monks.
MOSTLY practised by Japanese monks, there are also Sokushinbutsu found in India and Thailand so yeah
@@SleepyMarco nope they don't practice.
星白 閑 shut up
Why are you so triggered
@@user-Void-Star hi, sorry for these ruse comments haha, yes others do practice it, theres a famous one in thailand
That’s so crazy. Respect