The Trump Campaign’s Theory of Victory
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- The Trump campaign isn’t just expecting to win this election; it’s expecting to win it in a landslide. And top Trump campaign officials were feeling that confident even before Joe Biden’s disastrous debate performance. So what’s their strategy to achieve the blowout they’re imagining? And is their confidence justified?
Tim Alberta is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of “American Carnage: On the Front Lines of the Republican Civil War and the Rise of President Trump (www.harpercoll...) .” He recently spent months profiling (www.theatlanti...) Trump’s campaign managers, Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita. In this conversation, Alberta offers an inside look at the Trump campaign and their theory of victory. We discuss how the campaign has tailored its messaging to capitalize on Joe Biden’s weaknesses; LaCivita’s and Wiles’s personal backgrounds and approaches to the campaign; what Trump’s vice-presidential pick, Senator J.D. Vance, signals about Trump’s vision for his presidency; and more.
Mentioned:
“Trump Is Planning for a Landslide Win (www.theatlanti...) ” by Tim Alberta
“How J.D. Vance Won Over Donald Trump (www.nytimes.co...) ” by Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman
Book Recommendations:
Tired of Winning (www.penguinran...) by Jonathan Karl
Kingdom of Rage (www.hachettebo...) by Elizabeth Neumann
Romney (www.simonandsc...) by McKay Coppins
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast (www.nytimes.co...) . Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at www.nytimes.co... (www.nytimes.co...) .
This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
In the words of Homer Simpson “you take forever to say
nothing “
This is why I drop the New York Times!!!
WAHHHHHHH 😂😂😂
Well duh-how is the “running against Joe Biden” any different from the, “running against Donald Trump”?…or, “running against Barack Obama”?
Utterly ridiculous!!
In other words, not a threat to democracy.
Most importantly, there is no threat to our republic.
You are so wrong! It’s called GRATITUDE I understand you probably don’t see that much
I tried for ten minutes to listen and they say absolutely nothing. What a fuggin ego to talk to just hear yourself.
So agree. What Maga says isn't what Maga does. They aren't for unions. Such lies that your don't challenge.
@@maroosk I had some spare time so I listened to the whole thing and made several comments. It almost makes you nauseous to be in such an echo chamber though, maybe I should take a break 😆 😂
@@joybiddie6575 ugh, i shouldn't be so negative about it but I want hope and understanding. I will hear it out but will also be praying we get presents and lotto winnings in reward.
still naval gazing with the rest of the democrats. 1 dimensional personality type. Sad.
We're not the ones that need to be told what to think, how to feel and who to hate
@@gregwalker6281Yes you are. The democrats disown people because they disagree. No one was ever racist to me as a black man until I started supporting Trump.
@@gregwalker6281You sure about that?
@@Pohonesty It seems clear enough.
@@Dan-dy8zpNot even close.
Reliance on polls has made our political reporting lazy and focused solely on inside ball issues of personalities, who's winning, losing, inside, outside.... Like People magazine for political nerds. Where is the discussion of issues and contrasting views of things that matter?
Polls are now more flawed but I can see the difference that the video is describing.
Nope. None of this.
Nope to your comment. None of it!
@@singed8853 perhaps you should listen.
All the TRUMP CAMPAIGN has done is WAKE UP AMERICA.
Yes, thankful he keeps opening his mouth ...makes us want to vote for anyone other than him!!!
So now you're woke? 😂😂😂
Yes, he woke up America to how fascism is alive and well in the US, thanks to DJT.
Trump said he wants to be a dictator, he said he wants his people to stand to attention like the Kim Jong Un's people do. And MAGA responds by saying a dictatorship is fine. MAGA lemmings are ready to follow him off a cliff.
True. That's why I voted for him in 2016, not because I liked him. Now it has turned into a cult of Christian Nationalists, cult members and ultra materialistic outlook.
Thank you, I hope so!
Beautifully said! ❤
Tds is real get help immediately
You sound like you have TDS if you still support him knowing he was proven to be a rapist in a court of law.
Only ones deranged are the cult
Being in a cult is a terrible thing! Get help!
TDS is no more real than Biden Derangement Syndrome. People think it’s a burn to liberals but I don’t think it fazes anyone. It actually causes your comment to not be taken seriously. Liberals don’t like trump for his values and policies and that is all.
@@joleneplourde9885Your in the cult. You say black lives matter except a black man like me who supports Trump doesn't matter to you. Give up your hate it's time to unify as a country behind Trump Vance 2024.
This is all depressing…..always so much hype around Trump and the takedown of our Democracy! You aren’t much different than the media. And truthfully, Ezra, I have always admired you and loved listening to you…… not so much today👎🏻
I am very depressed after the debate. To a point that I avoid listening to anything politically related. But I still felt uncontrollably anxious.
.....I keep thinking of a line from the movie "A Few Good Men", and I remember it very clearly, that is Jack Nicholson shouted to Tom Cruise "You can't handle the truth." 😢
Constitutional Republic not Democracy.
@@erock2331we elect our reps. Stop with your bs.
Um yea we do elect our reps dummy😂 thats what a constitutional Republic is 😂 ima guess you never said the pledge of allegiance before.@Backfromthedeadguy
@@erock2331it's a constitutional Democratic Republic
We are not falling in line. We are supporting common sense and prosperity for America.
I didn't click here I'm already done with dealing with this guy.
I recall many on the Democrat side seriously thought of Obama as GOD .
I don’t think you can defend that with any evidence. Obama was very likable to many and he gave people hope. There wasn’t any talk of divine intervention or other religious leaning discussion about Obama.
Suuuure, so many I'm sure 😂😂
Pres. Obama was popular and well-liked, something DJT could only dream of.
But I have seen MAGAs literally praying TO Donald Trump. Straight up idolatry!
@@kathyestes6577 From San Bernardino Ca to LA , to New York I saw votive Candles with Obama wearing a crown of thorns and even a few fellow truck drivers who thought of him as CHRIST himself .
No we didn't
@@rod1318 LOL . I worked with several who most certainly did . Just being honest with the FACTS .
Why am I getting NYT on my feed. Go away.
That’s the only way the New York Times gets any propaganda message out at all, is to pompously talk down to the undereducated masses.
Lololol
Is this a joke?
The fact that some people who aren't filthy rich believe Trump is really on their side is the sad, sad joke.
You need help bro
Out of touch much
The mood feels like the truth is coming out!
Re: DJT Is Changed. Not only from awareness of his mortality, but in realizing that he needn’t conform to GOP presumptions (e.g., P’25), as history has positioned him to shape the party in the image of his own invention.
😂😂😂 He just copied the "Not See" platform because as he told one of his generals, he truly admires Sh*tler.
Why did get fed this podcast. Feed me Infowars.
The host is the type of guy to act like he knows it all and would still argue if you showed him proof on the contrary.
Have you ever watched a convention before? They are all about acting like your party is going to win. If not, what would be the point? Do most parties run candidates they think are going to lose? What a waste of time the conversation is.
Romney was definitely a placeholder candidate
On what planet are you guys living?
A realistic planet, not an emotional planet of either Biden or Trump.
NYT sucks
Pence? McConnell? Paul Ryan? "Establishment friendly figures!?!!". Turncoats, all. You people are nuts.
I guess they were the “likable Republicans” hence they belonged more to the establishment than the Republican party.
Poor ezra,i know he is trying to say something, but his TDS is showing...
Ivan? Is that you? How is the weather in St Petersburg? Or are you from a Nigerian/Russian troll farm…
Was a dem now I’m maga the left has fallen
sure Jan Brady
Has the truth fallen too, reminds me of all those people in pre war Germany shouting zig heil as Hitler went by.
😂🤣😂 no way you were EVA a dem… and switched to maga and their views.. You always were a closeted maga😅 fess up to it.
Same and I know dozens same way
Florida is also very gerrymandered. We lost a rep and they split a large mostly Dem mostly black district into the 2 nearest white Republican districts. We'll never have a Dem rep again. And please explain to me how something like 3,000 people a day move to just Central Florida and the State loses a district in Central Florida???🤔😡
Drink every time they say, "by the way"
How dare we prioritize election integrity? Such a horrible thing, this integrity business , isn't it?
Duh! There is so much PROOF that this election was stolen! These ppl are NUTS!!
Nice ratio you got here. You're losing all credibility.
This guy takes so long to get to the point lol
It's not just the person. It's the administration. President Biden has accomplished so much since he's been in the office.
Are you joking?
@@sandraintexas6959 are you educated
Yes! Chips act, Inflation reduction act, Infrastructure (which Dump tried and failed at), millions of new jobs, crime down across the board, wages are growing. We are now producing more oil than ever and under Biden became energy independent, not so under Dump. Pres. Biden brought back manufacturing jobs to the US that Dump lost.
@gregwalker6281. 😅🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤪
The person is an image.
I wish you could also talk about the Opus Dei/ Leonard Leo work, tactics, influence, and impact on the government, and these coming elections.
Trump 2024!
TRUMP 2024! VANCE 2028!
Trump doesn't like competition?? He lives for competition 😅 he's a fighter
No, he is a destroyer.
@@user-bp1lb5zx7h what has he destroyed?
You lost me at "He writes for the Atlantic"! Maybe he can a story about "How the Atlantic started WW1...How about another one"?
Wow! The Atlantic assassinated the Archduke Franz Ferdinand? 😂 BTW, Dr. Ben Carson has written for the Atlantic. It's one of the oldest publications in the US.
Looks like these two men really admire DT.
A waste of my time-just as I suspected
Arrogant circus...side show.
Excellent discussion of Susie Wiles' and Chris LaCivita's frighteningly good plans for Trump's campaign. I hope the DNC listens and read Tim Alberta's Atlantic article.
Yes, an added aura of invincibility. The silent majority has been silent for nearly a decade. We will no longer be silent. I hope that's okay with you though
Lol, the vast majority don't like Trump. Unfavorability near 70%. The majority of Americans support universal healthcare, Roe V Wade . Trump ignored one and destroyed the other. Vast majority also thinks the SC immunity decision is wrong. But believe you're part of a majority if that makes you feel better.
Sounds like Dem
Really enjoyed this discussion. I feel like I learn so much about what's really going on when I hear Tim Alberta speak.
BOYCOTT THE NYT!!!
Sad.
Common mannn say it! They are awesome! The best convention ever!❤️🙏🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸it is okay to be truthful for once!
Truth is a stranger to DJT. 😂
@@kookootrix1978. Biden is sharp and fully engaged…
You are not from Greenville SC are you?
Hey Ezra: *STUFF IT*
Conservative plant.
@@ZacharySkipworthsmirking chimp?
@ZacharySkipworth Perfectly reasonable phrase...unlike, say, "patriotic Trump supporters".
@@ZacharySkipworth try and get out more.
@@stayclean777 lol if you see yourself as a patriot, you’re gaslighting yourself.
Seek help for the TDS
What a comprehensive and insightful interview. ty
From what we have learned from Trump past endeavors is his inclination to mess up a good thing similar to his inheritance and Atlantic City casino.
Is that why prices have skyrocketed under Biden and Americans are in massive debt to cover the cost of living?
They want to "appear" to be inclusive.
Well wait a minute. Elon musk is giving him $45 million a month now. Isn't that enough to do both?
He could invest in education , health care for the kids and or the elderly -- look what 45 millions could do for the betterment of the US!! He could even cover the cost of free school lunches !! We know that he's a father of 12 children -- he wants the best for his own children -- but not for anyone else!!
Has it occurred to this beta boy that besides not wanting a President who should be playing shuffleboard in an old folks home that we are tired of runaway inflation, high gas and grocery prices and a disastrous foreign policy?
Musk isn't giving it to Trump. He's giving it to a PAC. And it's illegal for PACs and candidate campaign to coordinate their actions. And the PAC can't donate to Trump or any candidate either.
2016 was the weirdest election we'd ever lived through? Oh, you sweet summer child.... 2000 would like a word.
It's weird to see MSM hammer nails into it's own coffin but here we are witnessing them speed running to irrelevancy. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Listening in today...what a difference 2 weeks makes.
This video is aging poorly since the rise of KAMALA
I can tell he doesn't spend time on the putting green. He just stabs at the ball. Never really gets the line, doesn't have a grooved stoke with the putter. He doesn't seem to have the patience or humility to practice to get better. On a large tiered green I can easily see him hit 2,3,4 or more putts to sink it. Guess it's easier to cheat and lie than actually work on your game.
Smart - spend all your GOTV money "protecting" something that doesn't need protecting. 😝
Watch all the crying from your side on 6 Nov about the election. Just like in 2016, just like in 2000.
It's not true the party has fallen in line. They have expelled the dissonance. Those are two very different things. Where are the Lizz Chenneys, the Kissingers, the Romneys and so many others?
They are ejected… not present. No longer at the table. The party is very much in line.
They fought. The party wouldn't listen.
I think you meant Kinzinger. We know where Kissinger is.
Those individuals are not the only members of that wing of the party. The party is changing and all elected members recognize the party is different.
@paulboileau3758 who would Henry vote for?
HAIL TO THE "CHIEF"😊
I thought you were going to speak about another major leitmotif of the convention which is Unity. Unity, in this case means, a big tent, which looks into the camera and says, “Even though you’ve been hating Trump, you, too, are welcome to join the Trump team.” This becomes the backup plan to “weak Biden.”
That thumbnail is such a stereotype match 😂
This guy still has a job?!?😮
I am glad those Trump voters are coming here. Who knows they will understand some of your words
You should start working on a book about this story!
You should title it:
WHAAAGH!
Nice to hear from someone without a political affiliation
J.D. Vance is also the Silicon Valley/PayPal Mafia candidate. He has been insinuated into the race by donors like Peter Thiel. The prospect of a Tech Bro/Middle America coalition is interesting and I'm not sure what will come of this new alignment.
LOVING IT, HERE.😂
"Working class multi-racial coalition".🤣🤣
Trump's base is totally delusional. Do they have ANY idea who is FUNDING Trump?
A south African American to the tune of 45 Milly a month Yee
Did you realize that the Republican party has way smaller donors and way more of them while it's the Democrat party who has been funded by huge millionaires and billionaire was mainly. It's not even close either In fact it's probably the most lopsided percentage we've ever seen This is why the Democrat party has lost the working class and the Republican party now owns it
EZRA AND TIM!!!
It’s Peter Theil
And
Elon Musk
Behind it ALL!!!!!
Trump is TRANSACTIONAL!!!
I thought he said clown show then I read his name🤡🤣
Propaganda! What an unexpected surprise ftom the nyt.
Biden has seemed almost incapacitated for 3.5 years
It's called patriotic excitement and love and happiness. Wish you understood that
is that what was wrong with Matt Gaetz face?
My advice is to rely upon traditional eternal, universal values that are absolutely transcendent to politics in any single party or culture or country. . So we should try to be relaxed and confident
Sympathy to Russia with China bashing is NOT good for USA, for many reasons.
With Biden??
@@nicolasolton With neither Biden nor Trump. The universal values are shifting for the New Age. Both represent the old Piscean Age with just a few differences.
I agree with you now let’s just require propaganda has to stop
Not really Ezra!
... almost died while in Walter Reid Hospital ... really?
STOP WATCHING FAUX/NEWSMAX ! It was all reported in REAL news!
Didn't he say that was the conspiracy theory?
Remember how you could see him laboring to breath right after he got out of the hospital, claiming he was great.
😅
@@RickMartinTH-camhe was fine
Lies lies lies
None of this checks out
Too wordy! This 54 minute discussion, should have been 30 minutes...
God will deal with donald trump as he dealt with him in twenty twenty , God does not Share his glory with no one and trump is not sent by God , He does not not Send his people junk like Trump,Just not so he don't hurt people ,He is life and Love
The GOP seems a lot more warm and inviting than it did in 2020. I think Trump finally hit his stride with regard to outreach and appealing to different groups.
@@RickMartinTH-camWell, women are able to get abortions in some states with NO gestational limits. Meaning it’s legal to have an abortion at 40 weeks!! Which is worst?
Doesn't happen and Roe HAD viability in the law. Third trimester rare, in complications.
Trump is WRONG saying babies can be murdered. Doesn't happen and is illegal.
God, God, God isn't a different group.
Freedom of Religion IS in the Constitution. Tois that document under Trump/Vance replaced by Project 2025.
Trump knows he's a stooge.
You guys are almost as deep as that turd Ezra.
'Warm and inviting" as a compost pile.
The arrogance is fascism.
Umm k. Your post is fascism as well.
Ok fascist.
Would all you fascists knock it off! I'm trying to sleep.
The optimism is grounded firmly on a man who merely wants to preserve the Republic and the historic american dream wedded with a will to boldly defend the border all on a foundation of actually faithfully carrying these objectives out for four years.
@@singed8853A weak,baseless accusation,You clearly do not even know what fascism is.
Do these guys work for the government? They're talking like very entitled pompous individuals.
Not touched by god ....in leauge with evil....very low level demon
I feel little this Ezra guy is a Trump supporter.. anyone else get that vibe. Also, vote by mail is sketchy.
Of course! The art of talking, talking, talking and saying nothing at all is a trump&vance thing.
The man being interviewed sounds like a typical WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM male with his breathy voice like Trudeau, Mayorkis, Newsom, etc..
This is way too easy, I'm having so much fun
Yep. This is pathetic.
The last comment I will make is to clarify that Trump voters are indeed NOT all Christians or even far-right extremists. I'm a libertarian, and an agnostic, so no religion. And I don't think you realize how diverse we are either, not just ethnically diverse but also diverse in thought, because you see, we love a good debate, a good argument. You are right, to say that we value strength. I wish more people would value strength. 💪
Historically "strong men" haven't been good for their constituents.
Yes, Tim, his name is Ezra
The Christian belief of name it and claim it!
Insightful interview, thank you.
Very good, objective analysis.
New York times that tells you right there
46% D and 46% R. Everyone thinking that their side is the popular side is just wrong. I have no issue working or living with Democrats. I cant say the feeling is mutual.
Your elected representatives refuse to work across the aisle. It would be very helpful if you told them to work together rather than block every thing. Do you remember Mitch Mc Connell saying the only thing republicans were going to do was block everything Obama wanted to do?
No you are wrong. Read Nancy MacLean's Democracy In Chains.