Upwind sailing tips for catamarans - Catamaran sailing techniques | Yachting World

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  • Why don’t cruising cats sail very well to windward? Nigel Irens explains and has some tips on how to get more out of a cruising catamaran upwind
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  • @LadyHawke30
    @LadyHawke30 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very useful. Thanks for taking the time.

  • @williamthethespian
    @williamthethespian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff. Thank you.

  • @CatamaranImpi
    @CatamaranImpi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Some food for thought - Catamarans with two short spreaders instead of one long spreader on the mast sail better up wind for the simple reason that the leech of the genoa can come closer to the center of the boat before the spreader interferes with it. We have seen this many times sailing in proximity of cats with long single spreaders who just can't make it closer to the wind as a result. We actually sail closer to the wind than many mono's we sail with and for me it all comes down to the genoa 'set up' by the manufacturer. Another thing we find for sailing closer to the wind, is to give the genoa a stiff halyard (we want to loose the wrinkles). I totally agree with the words 'don't over sheet at all' - contrary to what we are all taught our boat goes better to weather with the genoa cars slightly forward as opposed to aft - the sail wants some shape to it. These videos are great, the sailor is skilled and I enjoy them - thank you guys!

    • @dehdeh55
      @dehdeh55 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting point! Thanks. It should not be that hard to replace the long single spreader with two short spreaders.

    • @CatamaranImpi
      @CatamaranImpi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes - this is true - the other consideration is the position of the genoa car tracks :) The disadvantage we have is off the wind since the tracks are fairly close in - we have to set a barber haul block set up on the horns cleat and play the clew between the two ... or go earlier for the asymmetric ... Cheers for now - Brent

  • @brucesinclair2981
    @brucesinclair2981 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I assist with a Fountaine 46 cat delivery.
    Sailing from Coccos Keeling to Perth WA. 1750kn into the SE trades. All on the nose.
    30kns of wind with a strong current and 2 metres+ seas..
    The best we could get was 120 to the wind for the first 12 days.
    We were aiming to sail a course of about 130 the best we could get was either 10 or 250 degrees. Not the direction we wanted.
    Apart from having two hulls slamming for every wave.
    Give me a heavy monohull anytime.

  • @Kezzht
    @Kezzht 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This yacht they are on is like sailing a block of flats and using bed sheets to drive it .... Dagger boards are essential for upwind performance. My Crowther 10m could sail 28/35 deg to windward at good speed.. I am looking at a SIG80 fro my retirement yacht ,,,, now that will make mono sailors envious :)

  • @markmuller8829
    @markmuller8829 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Discussing upwind sailing technique on a modern cruising cat, probably best not to use the Moorings (Robertson & Caine Leopard) 48! The forward cockpit is designed for seating charter guests sipping wine (or rum) at the marina dock..... But it is huge penalty for windward performance on this cat because it is effectively a massive wind dam and literally almost stops the boat. It traps the wind and there is no way for it flow over the super structure. Parasitic drag at its worst!

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fair enough, but it's also a valid question to ask and attempt to answer how to maximize the performance, such as it is. It's also relevant since boats of this general type are common in the charter fleet.

  • @robertcain3426
    @robertcain3426 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pointing ability is n a problem with my new multihull design.

  • @heathrow6564
    @heathrow6564 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice pictures, but not terribly informative

    • @vkirisome4701
      @vkirisome4701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heathrow my thoughts exactly

  • @MrZeddy100
    @MrZeddy100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "centre boards or keels, whatever you call them"

  • @BobbieGWhiz
    @BobbieGWhiz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this would be helpful, but the British accents are too thick to interpret. Cheers.

    • @stephenfranks7638
      @stephenfranks7638 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +lisarob5767 Eh wot! Doth thou not readest thouest King Jamest?! Eh wot?!!
      Silly colonists, go away or we shall taunt you a second time, again, like deja vu, again...

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Historically the British and American accents were similar 250 years ago. It's the British accent that probably changed more over time due to wealthy traders wanting to sound different from the lower classes.

  • @jamesnguyen9033
    @jamesnguyen9033 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These guys talk too much. Get straight to the point and stop the self-congratulation

  • @stephenfranks7638
    @stephenfranks7638 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eh wot! Doth thou not readest thouest King Jamest?! Eh wot?!!
    Silly colonists, go away or we shall taunt you a second time, again, like deja vu, again...

    • @burnerjack01
      @burnerjack01 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Stephen Franks Who won the war of 1812? Ah yes....

  • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
    @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He did not mention anything we did not already know.

  • @cuthbertmilligen
    @cuthbertmilligen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sound quality leaves much to be desired. Not very professional...

  • @toobspark
    @toobspark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All this 'expert' upwind advice... and not one attempt at a tack? Seems not even the experts are game to tack a Cat if they don't have to, especially with a camera rolling. #backwardsinironsfordays

  • @robertbarnes1989
    @robertbarnes1989 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, all that to say that you trim exactly the way you would for any other sailboat but don't expect to point higher. Nothing special here.

  • @obdiah21
    @obdiah21 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    stupid music !!!