I once had a great run with a character in this, he was world travelled and had won a number of world championships until one day injuring a fellow wrestler, and later accidentally killing the same wrestler in self defense. This started a downward spiral of fury and chaos as he killed several other wrestlers before himself being thrown in front of a train. Miraculously he survived, but while recovering from injuries in the hospital the champion (who my guy was scheduled to face for the belt until the train incident shelved him) showed up and beat him to death on his collapsed hospital bed. It was one of the most bizarre stories I've ever played 11 outta 10
Stuff WWE should be doing in their Games but won't. Wanna see Triple H get blown by TNT You can. Wanna kill the hulkster in the ring you Could do that too.😂 And more.
On federation wrestling Matt dickie Would spend all his time in the career Trying to crush your dreams.😂 He even release crooks from jail To deal with you. All because you didn't end your Contract.
I had a wrestler named Bi han he was a legend holding all the belts from different promotions buut he fell I'll then his enemy my enemy Arn Goodman he attacked me in the hospital then he slumped and died, I honestly was pained cause I used him for 10 yrs in wrestling empire time, so I feel your pain bro
Mat Dickie’s entire roster of games are all very perplexing. You can say they are simplistic but you can’t say they aren’t extremely captivating in how much they try to pack into themselves.
I feel like The You Testament is probably his weirdest one. I mean it's a retelling of the life of Jesus Christ.... in the same engine as Wrestling Empire.
@@CatCheshireThe or The You Testament 2. Which is about the life story of the Prophet Muhammad but flagrantly recycles assets from the first game, including having every cross in the game say "INRI"
Things i was not expecting today: 1) to become invested in a wrestling video 2) to have wrestling world compared to twin peaks, convincingly 3) to nearly be brought to tears about the wrestling world Well done and i look forward to more quality videos
once i got my clothes stolen and was also foolish enough to sign a contract that only paid me for losses at the same time. my character most likely was crying alone and naked in a rugged hotel bedroom. 10/10.
I’ve always said the most dangerous part of wrestling is the five seconds immediately before and after receiving a tasty little snack from a vending machine. Good to see my theories backed up with rigorous science
Been saying this for years - I've always contested that Wrestling Empire just has something that makes it THE wrestling game. Anyone can play this game for 15 minutes and have something just wildly out of this world - but depressingly realistic come out of it.
Because its a wrestling game that is dedicated to fun Most wrestling games are dedicated to being a sales vehicle for the federation its based on. "RECREATING THE MOMENTS OF DA WWE!" instead of you having your own moments in that setting.
As someone who bought it for the Switch upon release and has been playing ever since, I could not have clicked faster. This game and MDickie are an absolute gem. Edit: I would also like to mention there are opportunities to unionize in Wrestling Empire. You will occasionally be asked about it by any wrestler at any major promotion, be they big stars, job guys, rising stars, or Vince McMahon who quit WWE to ruin a Mexican lucha promotion. You can say yes or decide not to rock the boat. But if you say yes, you can rat Jesse Ventura out to Mr. McMahon (I genuinely did that once because I couldn't believe the stars aligned like that. My character, Dr. Meth is, for me, the person who canonically ratted out Jesse Ventura). A further point in the realism column.
@@ryan_alexander It was inspired by the absolutely batshit lifestyle my wrestler undertook to maximize their training gains as soon as the freeroam mode was added. I figured out that milk increases strength and weight, and can be refilled underneath the bathroom's showers. So I pretty much immediately maxed all my stats by working out constantly, and when I got tired I sat on toilets I ripped out of the wall and placed under the showers to increase my health gain as I double fisted bottles of milk. I put on like 300lbs, would sleep four hours every night, under the shower heads, on a toilet, grasping my precious milks. I felt like my gimmick had to turn into "The World's Craziest Man, Dr. Meth"
@@mrmoviemanic1none of that invalidates the need for unionisation in every sector of society, no boss ever made a concession to the workers out of the kindness of their own heart
@@mrmoviemanic1 It should go without saying that the need for unionization means GOOD unionization that isn't corrupt or incompetent. Even then, a slightly incompetent union is still far, far better than no union. Exploitation _will_ happen when there's no protections, and there's no system that proves to be an exception, only individual companies have proven to take care of their workers in spite of existing in a system where they don't have to. There's really no place in the world where a proper union isn't a net positive, because the places where workers are being taken care of already won't notice when it becomes a hard base requirement.
I always enjoy hearing about Pat’s special interest. He’s made a subject I could not care less for genuinely interesting and through his eyes I can see theappeal
This video achieves that weird, amazing feat where... once we get to the end, I wanted you to start over with another wrestler, and to just tell me their absurd little story (with some more random social commentary / history of wrestling commentary peppered throughout). I guess it's the combo of the game, and the writing and performance of the video, but it's pretty wild. Great stuff.
I have a coworker whose kid just graduated wrestling school into an indie wrestling promotion. It's hard knowing that some or all of this could happen to such a sweet kid. I hope with the rise in union action over the past year that we're able to see unionized wrestling in the U.S. For his sake.
@@Bale4Bond I don't know. It all depends on who has the leverage. In WWE, the wrestlers will never out muscle the company. In TNA, they could try but it'll be blood from a stone. If it happens, I bet it'd be AEW. That said, the indies won't be unionizing. Ever. Anyone who tries is too easily replaced.
I met Roddy Piper a few years before he died. He was so incredibly pleasant, but I could tell that he was struggling. He never once raised his voice in that signature way that he was known for, and he was either sweating or looking pale for most of the convention weekend. We were in a hot convention hall (someone kept pulling the fire alarm and that disabled the AC), and there was really nowhere for the guests to escape the heat. Knowing that he was still sporadically wrestling at the time was crazy. Between the cancer, hip replacement, and other ailments, he should not have still been wrestling. I'm glad he was basically done that year, but there's no way it wasn't detrimental to the remainder of his life.
Pat and Polygon, still out here in a devastatingly precarious business, doing incredible work and saying the things that need to be said. We love you, Pat.
Love this and the recent one about logistics. The whole short-form video essay using a video game or genre of games to reflect on something in the real world is a really good fit for them.
This explains why The Mountain Goats' concept album "Beat the Champ" starts with "Southwestern Territory" rather than "The Legend of Chavo Guerrero", a set up for the main character's inspiration for entering wrestling. "Southwestern Territory" is a sad song about a traveling jobber oscillating between enjoying the sweet, brief moments of glory in the ring and the cold, lonely, and stressful moments that comprise the rest of his life; the chorus openly repeats that his job is explicitly to lose over and over. It lets the listener know that the fun and drama of the rest of the album is only snapshots of a tragic life.
Apparently the Matrix has decided I need to listen to The Mountain Goats. This is like the second or third time I've seen/heard them mentioned in as many days.
as legitemately sad and exploitative real life wrestling can be, Buddy explosively pissing himself, waddling in to a match he immediately loses and waddling out of the ring only to exhaustedly crash and sleep on the floor in his piss soaked leather pants is the most hilarious sequence of events
He has a preety high, 90%+ attitude in the game, iirc. Wrestling can completely turn you into a horrible person or at least, an upset person. Mark Callaway or The Undertaker tried to be the epitome of professionalism but also not lose the humanity while being a huge part of the business.
I'm glad you decided to make this vidoe over mdickies game. He's made this game by himself and it still is more fun than any other pro wrestling game in the last 10 years.the games not perfect but you work around the odd parts and it still comes out better than most wrestling games
I was playing a character who was a jobber. I slowly got to a state where I was allowed to win, after losing about 50 matches on purpose. Then I was scheduled for a title match, but got injured and died a couple weeks before my title shot. I was just in a random non-title match and some guy threw me out of the ring and my character screamed and got really slow, but I won anyway. After the match, a screen came up that said that I collapsed backstage, after the match and could not be resuscitated. After my character died, I just had to start over as a new character.
I have found a way to lose injury if you do get injured. Let's say, it is a normal match and if you get injured, try to let the clock go 00:00 and agree to restart if the option appears. If you stay away from fighting long enough, your character will lose the injury but will have little to no health. Sometimes, the character instantly loses it, sometimes he will take lots of time but other times, maybe he won't. Do the same fornylur opponents. Do ask if you want to know more.
MDickie is a underrated game developer in general. All of his games are still refreshing even after a decade of playing them. I’m glad to see the recognition.
Having an actor start speaking about their experience with a health and fitness supplement via an ad immediately after 5:00 in this video while I was in another room made me, for a moment, wonder if this had turned into a deep dive into Huel's dark history beefing up jobbing wrestlers
This was a fantastic piece, Pat. Thank you so much for putting the spotlight on the realities of wrestling and not doing so in an over-the-top way, but with the utmost respect. You always approach pro wrestling with just the right amount of reverence and humor. Also thank you for touching on unionization. So many wrestlers have tried (and are still trying) for unionization that hasn't come.
I was never praised for my entire life, until now when i helped an old man he said "your parents mustve raised you nicely. Im proud of you." I thanked him and i went home
Reminds me of John Oliver's episode on wrestling. Good stuff! Also, that guy correctly and calmly predicting that he won't make it to 65 is just heartbreaking
Every new video gets each individual producer closer to the singularity of being distilled down to their strongest passions and I am not complaining. 100 more wrestling/unionization videos please and thank you Patrick
Idk but i think this reality about wrestling is what makes it so metal and cool, knowing that the people i watch are actual gladiators and they have fought for their dream
Honestly a great dive into a game I would've never heard about elsewhere. Everyone's videos on this channel are such treats into aspects of game design and comparisons to real life
The culture of working while injury in pro wrestling is definitely egregious - one shared by the NHL (and I presume ice hockey in general), e.g. Matthew Tkachuk playing multiple playoff games with a broken sternum. The same 'it's not mandatory but it's valorised' dynamic. But the medical care and money and resources available to NHL players will be exponentially greater than the vast majority of pro wrestlers.
RIP Buddy Buchanan 😭 He was just trying to live an honest life, and put his fans first. May his reallocated system resources be used once again for something as great as he was.
*I remember getting asked to work commentary as a Jobber when my career in the game began I was given over $7,000 for doing it. My paycheck for wrestling matches was around $900. Was super plssed off.*
I gotta say I love your sense of storytelling in this video. I love this game and had a lot of runs in it, with mixed results, usually it was a struggle in the mid card, a few title runs with the tag and inter championships and a lot of injuries, a few runs were dominant winning streaks with world championships. The backstage and interviews were really fun and caught me on the spot sometimes. Once, I accidentally killed a guy in the ring, and repackaged my gimmick as Dr. Death, ironically it was that character that won my first title.
FUN FACT: It is a very old mobile game named WRESTLING REVOLUTION 3D . It even had a 2D version before which was also as fun as this one. I always found the non licensed names of wrestlers funny and attractive lol
the clips you picked are amazing, especially of Bryan Danielson. he's one of my favorites ever, so that clip of him talking about his dad, was really beautiful, that was an excellent cut. that's the definitive Bryan Danielson, the way he's romantic about wrestling
Great game review, & commentary on the life of pro wrestling. Ironic to mention the Danielson Orbital bone injury, since he has just suffered the same injury again in AEW.
I bought this game for Switch the day it was released. It's in my top 6 most played game on my system. I gave all the wrestlers their real names, and have recreated over a dozen of my No Mercy custom characters. The controls are janky at time, but I love it. Craziest moment, I was on commentary for extra cash. One wrestler got a three count...but it still got reversed AFTER the 3 count, and the opponent got the win instead.
youtuber supergreatfriend conjured maybe the strangest series of videos out there by dragging a beefcake luchador through the entire mDickieverse. can't reccommend it highly enough.
Bully Demise, the people's champion. Possibly the only early 2010s LP worth sitting through to its ridiculous conclusion in wwe2k14. Started life on a 2d version of wrestling empire on of all things, the Ouya. He's now a character in this game which is hilarious. Mdickie games are so odd yet so charming - the characterisation of it as the Dwarf Fortress of wrestling games is spot on, a tragedy story generator
as someone who wrestled on a small scale for several years and loves video games (but hasn't played Wrestling Empire), this was a very entertaining, insightful, and tragically accurate video. At an indie show one time, Buff Bagwell (who used to tag team and run with Scott Steiner, who was shown several times when talking about 'roids) sat down next to me and out of nowhere started talking about how he and Scott Steiner did steroids, much to the befuddlement of competitive body builders.
@@louishickmanI don't know what a professor of industrial organizational psychology is exactly but I do know it's definitely going to be used as a gimmick in my next TEW game
This is one of my favorite wrestling game there is. Wrestling Revolution 3D, the game before it, is probably the game I've played the most in my life. Years spent playing it
In the mobile version( which is lesser but has some of the same kinda realism) I had a tag team partner who wanted me to play into his gimmick and I refused to which he switched to my gimmick instead and we broke off soon after and became enemies
Somehow I have yet to sit down to watch an actual wrestling match through but will drop everything to run and listen to someone else tell me about wrestling. Always worth it! Apparently my uncle was involved in the backyard wrestling scene in middle of nowhere Pacific Northwest so it feels like connecting with family I never met. This clown shit is in my blood.
@@aidancox5481 hey, the person presenting the info and how much they care about it makes all the difference. There’s a good reason pat shows up in that playlist a lot :D
I found MDickie's FEDERATION WRESTLING in Poundland (UK) in 2003, I didn't expect much out of a PC game for £1.00 The game just seemed to get better and better the more I played. I even used the wrestler editor to make some of the wrestlers look like my friends. In 2004 I found, ordered and had delivered Wrentling Mpire (I think it was that one, the 3D one) it came, I couldn't wait to install it on my previously used by many owners Windows 95 PC and when I excitedly double clicked the icon to load the game I was disappointedly greeted by a windows box saying "Could not create 3d environment" Gutted! That very same weekend I went out to PC World and spent all my money on a Windows XP machine with a Radeon graphics card 128mb I think and loaded that game up and played it every night for a long time. I love love loved it! Thanks to that I became a PC gamer and have been ever since. I bought MDickie's autobiography which he signed for me with a personal message, I may have paid a little extra for his penmanship but it was a nice touch. Long live the MDickie franchise.
Been playing this game for years now. It's the best Pro Wrestling Sim out there. MDickie updating it all the time too. Grab it now and you'll have a blast, and that's not a prediction... that's a spoiler!
I feel like that the reason why people fight behind the scenes is because it’s mdickie who made it. A mdickie always has to have someone fight you for no reason
This video is absolutely fantastic. I did not expect this seemingly game review to become as much as a visual opinion article about how unfair it is for wrestlers not to have a union to protect them.
The first time I played the career mode of Wrestling Empire I threw my opponent out of the ring in my first match and he was injured. After I won the match there was a wrestling newsletter report that my opponent died in the hospital from his injuries. Nuts.
I was looking at WWF action figures at my cousin's house the other day, most bought around 2000. Of the 30+ figures there, around 5 of the people depicted are now dead. Most long before their time.
There's also one other, somehow darker thing about the business that can happen in this game. During one of my playthroughs, I was booked in a hardcore match with another wrestler. After hitting my finisher on him into a trashcan, he gets injured. Swiftly ending the match and getting through the curtain, I find out that he died as a result of his injury.
Another Pat banger. Using dumb video games to talk about a much broader, often times more serious issue, while blending the two together. A god damn master at work.
one thing you should have mentioned is how wrestling empire covers unionization. you get approached by a colleague who gets you in on it, then you have a choice to snitch him out to the booker or protect him... which is just like what hulk hogan allegedly did (I didn't even know about it before this video). snitching on your colleague will result in their firing
Always loved the MDickie wrestling games. Full career modes with unpredictable outcomes, full customisation over roster & world building, great grappling system, lots of world interactivity, interchangeable stats. It's what every wrestling game tries to be which gets limited by trying too hard to be realistic & pandering to the product because of the official licensing. Most of my favourite & funniest wrestling game moments come from the MDickie games. Once, I started doing a booking career. On the first show of the year, I had Ryback booked in a match for the IC title. When Ryback was on his way to the ring, he accidentally fell off the ring stairs & went through a badly placed table & got injured 😂 when he eventually got in the ring after a whole minute of crawling, his opponent squashes him in 20 seconds. After the match, it was reported that his career was over & he'll never wrestle again. I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself.
I find it unfortunate that the attacks behind the scenes at the beginning were so unrealistic in the otherwise extremely accurate portrayal of the lower tiers of the wrestling world. It could have just been a work accident. Then, we could all just say: yeah, this is 100% accurate, look at this industry
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I once had a great run with a character in this, he was world travelled and had won a number of world championships until one day injuring a fellow wrestler, and later accidentally killing the same wrestler in self defense. This started a downward spiral of fury and chaos as he killed several other wrestlers before himself being thrown in front of a train. Miraculously he survived, but while recovering from injuries in the hospital the champion (who my guy was scheduled to face for the belt until the train incident shelved him) showed up and beat him to death on his collapsed hospital bed. It was one of the most bizarre stories I've ever played 11 outta 10
Always like if you injure your opponent
You get called out for neglet in
The paper.😂
Stuff WWE should be doing in their
Games but won't.
Wanna see Triple H get blown by TNT
You can.
Wanna kill the hulkster in the ring you
Could do that too.😂
And more.
On federation wrestling Matt dickie
Would spend all his time in the career
Trying to crush your dreams.😂
He even release crooks from jail
To deal with you.
All because you didn't end your
Contract.
We need to make a movie out of this journey
I had a wrestler named Bi han he was a legend holding all the belts from different promotions buut he fell I'll then his enemy my enemy Arn Goodman he attacked me in the hospital then he slumped and died, I honestly was pained cause I used him for 10 yrs in wrestling empire time, so I feel your pain bro
Mat Dickie’s entire roster of games are all very perplexing. You can say they are simplistic but you can’t say they aren’t extremely captivating in how much they try to pack into themselves.
Did he make a game that took place in a prison? The design here reminds me of a game I played in my youth
@@pokkiheart yes, in fact im pretty sure some models he made for that game are reused here, even if at nicer qualities
@@pokkiheart Yep, you're thinking of Hard Time
I feel like The You Testament is probably his weirdest one. I mean it's a retelling of the life of Jesus Christ.... in the same engine as Wrestling Empire.
@@CatCheshireThe or The You Testament 2. Which is about the life story of the Prophet Muhammad but flagrantly recycles assets from the first game, including having every cross in the game say "INRI"
So glad MDickie is getting the props he deserves. Dude is a visionary.
even with the lack of polish the games have, he certainly knows how to make a FUN game.
Federation Booker has been my go to game since it came out, its janky and weird but Matts games have always had a charm to them
@@WartyWarlock INDEED
It's dope.
@@WartyWarlockagreed
Things i was not expecting today:
1) to become invested in a wrestling video
2) to have wrestling world compared to twin peaks, convincingly
3) to nearly be brought to tears about the wrestling world
Well done and i look forward to more quality videos
Wait until you see the other crazy games MDickie made. Spoiler alert. They're all wrestling games, even when they arent
once i got my clothes stolen and was also foolish enough to sign a contract that only paid me for losses at the same time. my character most likely was crying alone and naked in a rugged hotel bedroom. 10/10.
oh noooooooo
...in the game, right?
@@claytonandres1194 they find you
yes
same kind of things happenedc to me
@@claytonandres1194
Buddy’s life is so crazy that he needs to be on an episode of Dark side of the Ring.
That’s what playing wrestling empire is basically it’s a dark of the ring simulator😭
@@DonJulio1942You're right, only the camera is a bit wiggling.
You know it’s good when it’s Pat plus wrestling
and it so often is
I saw polygon had a new video about wrestling and immediately knew there'd be good pat content within
Pat's become my favorite ever since his fighting games video.
Pat?
I’ve always said the most dangerous part of wrestling is the five seconds immediately before and after receiving a tasty little snack from a vending machine. Good to see my theories backed up with rigorous science
many are saying this
Everyone knows snack time is the best time for smack time
Hook in AEW is a subversion of this trope, he is the danger and is constantly snacking
@@thepolarphantasm2319mmmm chip
the machine literally explode on me
Been saying this for years - I've always contested that Wrestling Empire just has something that makes it THE wrestling game. Anyone can play this game for 15 minutes and have something just wildly out of this world - but depressingly realistic come out of it.
Because its a wrestling game that is dedicated to fun
Most wrestling games are dedicated to being a sales vehicle for the federation its based on. "RECREATING THE MOMENTS OF DA WWE!" instead of you having your own moments in that setting.
I only have one problem with it and its how godamn hard it is.. but I'm at the part of the video arguing that its the point and yeah maybe
@@magusperde365what do you mean by hard? It is so easy that you can get 16 win streaks while you have no energy.
@@magusperde365it's hard at first but after years of playing and knowing everything about the game it gets easier
@@bumpersincappedturn difficulty to very hard and pick newbie Nate your gonna rage quit.
As someone who bought it for the Switch upon release and has been playing ever since, I could not have clicked faster. This game and MDickie are an absolute gem.
Edit: I would also like to mention there are opportunities to unionize in Wrestling Empire. You will occasionally be asked about it by any wrestler at any major promotion, be they big stars, job guys, rising stars, or Vince McMahon who quit WWE to ruin a Mexican lucha promotion. You can say yes or decide not to rock the boat. But if you say yes, you can rat Jesse Ventura out to Mr. McMahon (I genuinely did that once because I couldn't believe the stars aligned like that. My character, Dr. Meth is, for me, the person who canonically ratted out Jesse Ventura). A further point in the realism column.
that's amazing
Dr Meth is an amazing name holy shit
@@ryan_alexander It was inspired by the absolutely batshit lifestyle my wrestler undertook to maximize their training gains as soon as the freeroam mode was added. I figured out that milk increases strength and weight, and can be refilled underneath the bathroom's showers. So I pretty much immediately maxed all my stats by working out constantly, and when I got tired I sat on toilets I ripped out of the wall and placed under the showers to increase my health gain as I double fisted bottles of milk. I put on like 300lbs, would sleep four hours every night, under the shower heads, on a toilet, grasping my precious milks. I felt like my gimmick had to turn into "The World's Craziest Man, Dr. Meth"
Wait, Vince did what??
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Vince quit All American Wrestling to work for Super Lucha Libre in my game one time. Cracked me up
Not only did Mick finish the Hell in a Cell match, he appeared later in the show to do a run-in.
You know it's good day at the office when you ask your co-worker if you used the thumbtacks & there are about a hundred of them stuck in your back.
The number of times a Pat video has made me laugh, fume, and ponder existence all in the same 15 minutes is shockingly high.
Very glad that Pat brings up the unionization efforts within wrestling! Unions protect workers!
I especially appreciate his little history lesson of Jesse Ventura and that rat snitch bastard Hulk Hogan.
Some unions are good, but some are greedy and can ruin business owners. But it’s different for all places in the world.
Shame that vox media, who owns polygon, fires workers who try to unionize
@@mrmoviemanic1none of that invalidates the need for unionisation in every sector of society, no boss ever made a concession to the workers out of the kindness of their own heart
@@mrmoviemanic1 It should go without saying that the need for unionization means GOOD unionization that isn't corrupt or incompetent. Even then, a slightly incompetent union is still far, far better than no union. Exploitation _will_ happen when there's no protections, and there's no system that proves to be an exception, only individual companies have proven to take care of their workers in spite of existing in a system where they don't have to. There's really no place in the world where a proper union isn't a net positive, because the places where workers are being taken care of already won't notice when it becomes a hard base requirement.
I always enjoy hearing about Pat’s special interest. He’s made a subject I could not care less for genuinely interesting and through his eyes I can see theappeal
This video achieves that weird, amazing feat where... once we get to the end, I wanted you to start over with another wrestler, and to just tell me their absurd little story (with some more random social commentary / history of wrestling commentary peppered throughout). I guess it's the combo of the game, and the writing and performance of the video, but it's pretty wild. Great stuff.
I have a coworker whose kid just graduated wrestling school into an indie wrestling promotion. It's hard knowing that some or all of this could happen to such a sweet kid. I hope with the rise in union action over the past year that we're able to see unionized wrestling in the U.S. For his sake.
Wrestling will never have a union.
@@Bale4Bond I don't know. It all depends on who has the leverage. In WWE, the wrestlers will never out muscle the company. In TNA, they could try but it'll be blood from a stone. If it happens, I bet it'd be AEW.
That said, the indies won't be unionizing. Ever. Anyone who tries is too easily replaced.
@@dgthe3 Why would any of the already overpaid bums in AEW think about unionizing?
@@Bale4Bond Tony would definitely fear for his life though
I met Roddy Piper a few years before he died. He was so incredibly pleasant, but I could tell that he was struggling. He never once raised his voice in that signature way that he was known for, and he was either sweating or looking pale for most of the convention weekend. We were in a hot convention hall (someone kept pulling the fire alarm and that disabled the AC), and there was really nowhere for the guests to escape the heat. Knowing that he was still sporadically wrestling at the time was crazy. Between the cancer, hip replacement, and other ailments, he should not have still been wrestling. I'm glad he was basically done that year, but there's no way it wasn't detrimental to the remainder of his life.
Pat and Polygon, still out here in a devastatingly precarious business, doing incredible work and saying the things that need to be said. We love you, Pat.
Love this and the recent one about logistics. The whole short-form video essay using a video game or genre of games to reflect on something in the real world is a really good fit for them.
This explains why The Mountain Goats' concept album "Beat the Champ" starts with "Southwestern Territory" rather than "The Legend of Chavo Guerrero", a set up for the main character's inspiration for entering wrestling. "Southwestern Territory" is a sad song about a traveling jobber oscillating between enjoying the sweet, brief moments of glory in the ring and the cold, lonely, and stressful moments that comprise the rest of his life; the chorus openly repeats that his job is explicitly to lose over and over. It lets the listener know that the fun and drama of the rest of the album is only snapshots of a tragic life.
Apparently the Matrix has decided I need to listen to The Mountain Goats. This is like the second or third time I've seen/heard them mentioned in as many days.
@@Matthias129 you will not regret it
as legitemately sad and exploitative real life wrestling can be, Buddy explosively pissing himself, waddling in to a match he immediately loses and waddling out of the ring only to exhaustedly crash and sleep on the floor in his piss soaked leather pants is the most hilarious sequence of events
Real
Well done. I didn't wake up today thinking a silly wrestling game would suplex my feelings but you got me good, Pat.
I love all MDickie games. They are just chaos incarnate and sometimes you can dismember people to horrorifying degrees.
I do too. With the exception of Sure Shot. Sure Shot sucks.
Extra lives and Wrecked memories huh?
@@kctharich6836 Wrecked and World War Alpha are MD's most underrated games hands down.
the moment I saw the title I knew this was gonna be a Pat banger. thank you for making such good wrestling content my dude
Knowing the wrestling world, and you'll appreciate Mark Callaway even more and understand why he's been praised and loved by every wrestler.
He has a preety high, 90%+ attitude in the game, iirc. Wrestling can completely turn you into a horrible person or at least, an upset person. Mark Callaway or The Undertaker tried to be the epitome of professionalism but also not lose the humanity while being a huge part of the business.
I need an entire series of Pat talking about wrestling video games. The knowledge he has of wrestling is amazing and I would love to hear more of it!
I'm glad you decided to make this vidoe over mdickies game. He's made this game by himself and it still is more fun than any other pro wrestling game in the last 10 years.the games not perfect but you work around the odd parts and it still comes out better than most wrestling games
Played all of MDickies games growing up! Insane that he released them all for free for the people
I was playing a character who was a jobber. I slowly got to a state where I was allowed to win, after losing about 50 matches on purpose. Then I was scheduled for a title match, but got injured and died a couple weeks before my title shot.
I was just in a random non-title match and some guy threw me out of the ring and my character screamed and got really slow, but I won anyway.
After the match, a screen came up that said that I collapsed backstage, after the match and could not be resuscitated.
After my character died, I just had to start over as a new character.
I have found a way to lose injury if you do get injured. Let's say, it is a normal match and if you get injured, try to let the clock go 00:00 and agree to restart if the option appears. If you stay away from fighting long enough, your character will lose the injury but will have little to no health. Sometimes, the character instantly loses it, sometimes he will take lots of time but other times, maybe he won't.
Do the same fornylur opponents.
Do ask if you want to know more.
MDickie is a underrated game developer in general. All of his games are still refreshing even after a decade of playing them. I’m glad to see the recognition.
I snitched on a Union in my play through. (My character is 54, multi millionaire, and best career of all time, and career lasted 32 years)
The actual drama with wrestling isn't what's on screen, it's what happens behind the scenes
AEW fan I assume?
Wrestling fans will say this and then wonder why they can't get invested in the shows anymore. Because you don't even try!
Having an actor start speaking about their experience with a health and fitness supplement via an ad immediately after 5:00 in this video while I was in another room made me, for a moment, wonder if this had turned into a deep dive into Huel's dark history beefing up jobbing wrestlers
I love that Wrestling Empire is getting the respect it deserves. Hilariously great game.
And as always and forever, fuck Hulk Hogan.
same here, I played this game nonstop, when I was younger, mcdickie games really helped when I didn’t have no console
This was a fantastic piece, Pat. Thank you so much for putting the spotlight on the realities of wrestling and not doing so in an over-the-top way, but with the utmost respect. You always approach pro wrestling with just the right amount of reverence and humor.
Also thank you for touching on unionization. So many wrestlers have tried (and are still trying) for unionization that hasn't come.
oh my god you really did the wrestling empire video
I was never praised for my entire life, until now when i helped an old man he said "your parents mustve raised you nicely. Im proud of you." I thanked him and i went home
Reminds me of John Oliver's episode on wrestling. Good stuff! Also, that guy correctly and calmly predicting that he won't make it to 65 is just heartbreaking
Roddy Piper.
Every new video gets each individual producer closer to the singularity of being distilled down to their strongest passions and I am not complaining. 100 more wrestling/unionization videos please and thank you Patrick
By the end I really needed that Lego Yoda to lighten things up. Thanks Pat.
Idk but i think this reality about wrestling is what makes it so metal and cool, knowing that the people i watch are actual gladiators and they have fought for their dream
12:16 looks like buddy went number 3 😳
Yeowch
It's a good day when Pat drops a new video.
My favorite hobby is hearing Pat gush about his. Truly marvelous work yet again.
Honestly a great dive into a game I would've never heard about elsewhere. Everyone's videos on this channel are such treats into aspects of game design and comparisons to real life
MDickie is a modern day mad scientist
The culture of working while injury in pro wrestling is definitely egregious - one shared by the NHL (and I presume ice hockey in general), e.g. Matthew Tkachuk playing multiple playoff games with a broken sternum. The same 'it's not mandatory but it's valorised' dynamic. But the medical care and money and resources available to NHL players will be exponentially greater than the vast majority of pro wrestlers.
Wow...really informative, empathetic, and funny. Thanks Pat!
RIP Buddy Buchanan 😭 He was just trying to live an honest life, and put his fans first. May his reallocated system resources be used once again for something as great as he was.
*I remember getting asked to work commentary as a Jobber when my career in the game began I was given over $7,000 for doing it. My paycheck for wrestling matches was around $900. Was super plssed off.*
Sleep! How can this video hit so many hyper-specific niches at once? I love it. Now I need to hear Pat talk about Doom Metal.
Proceeds the Wrestler
I had a wrestler who wanted a snack before his match, unfortunately the vending machine exploded and he died shortly after.
I gotta say I love your sense of storytelling in this video. I love this game and had a lot of runs in it, with mixed results, usually it was a struggle in the mid card, a few title runs with the tag and inter championships and a lot of injuries, a few runs were dominant winning streaks with world championships. The backstage and interviews were really fun and caught me on the spot sometimes. Once, I accidentally killed a guy in the ring, and repackaged my gimmick as Dr. Death, ironically it was that character that won my first title.
I see a new Polygon video, I click.
I see a new Polygon video from Patrick Gill, I click TWICE.
This game is basically a "Dark Side of the Ring" episode simulator
I bet if MDickie teamed up with Rockstar, this concept would blow up.
FUN FACT: It is a very old mobile game named WRESTLING REVOLUTION 3D . It even had a 2D version before which was also as fun as this one. I always found the non licensed names of wrestlers funny and attractive lol
I would love to hear what Steph Sterling has to say about this game, since she's a pro wrestler herself.
If I gauged her tastes well, she probably loves it in a Deadly Premonition way. In spite of all the "autoerotic assetflipsiation".
the clips you picked are amazing, especially of Bryan Danielson. he's one of my favorites ever, so that clip of him talking about his dad, was really beautiful, that was an excellent cut. that's the definitive Bryan Danielson, the way he's romantic about wrestling
Great game review, & commentary on the life of pro wrestling. Ironic to mention the Danielson Orbital bone injury, since he has just suffered the same injury again in AEW.
those few seconds of Buddy waddling in his new leather chaps were great
I bought this game for Switch the day it was released. It's in my top 6 most played game on my system. I gave all the wrestlers their real names, and have recreated over a dozen of my No Mercy custom characters. The controls are janky at time, but I love it.
Craziest moment, I was on commentary for extra cash. One wrestler got a three count...but it still got reversed AFTER the 3 count, and the opponent got the win instead.
youtuber supergreatfriend conjured maybe the strangest series of videos out there by dragging a beefcake luchador through the entire mDickieverse. can't reccommend it highly enough.
Bully Demise, the people's champion. Possibly the only early 2010s LP worth sitting through to its ridiculous conclusion in wwe2k14. Started life on a 2d version of wrestling empire on of all things, the Ouya. He's now a character in this game which is hilarious. Mdickie games are so odd yet so charming - the characterisation of it as the Dwarf Fortress of wrestling games is spot on, a tragedy story generator
as someone who wrestled on a small scale for several years and loves video games (but hasn't played Wrestling Empire), this was a very entertaining, insightful, and tragically accurate video. At an indie show one time, Buff Bagwell (who used to tag team and run with Scott Steiner, who was shown several times when talking about 'roids) sat down next to me and out of nowhere started talking about how he and Scott Steiner did steroids, much to the befuddlement of competitive body builders.
OMG - I read your blog on the GreyDog boards all the time back in the day!
Amazing. Absolute madness. Wow.
@@louishickmanI don't know what a professor of industrial organizational psychology is exactly but I do know it's definitely going to be used as a gimmick in my next TEW game
I remember spending days on end building a promotion from the ground up what wonderful memories I have of this game Pity it isn't available anymore
Wym it's still up
Pat's eyes overlaid with the wrestling poop video title is godlike editing, it knocked the wind out of me
The crossover I never knew I needed
This is one of my favorite wrestling game there is. Wrestling Revolution 3D, the game before it, is probably the game I've played the most in my life. Years spent playing it
I don't like watching streamers but I watched Jerma play this game for like 12 hours because it was just so unbelievably funny
Best wrestling game
In the mobile version( which is lesser but has some of the same kinda realism) I had a tag team partner who wanted me to play into his gimmick and I refused to which he switched to my gimmick instead and we broke off soon after and became enemies
Somehow I have yet to sit down to watch an actual wrestling match through but will drop everything to run and listen to someone else tell me about wrestling. Always worth it! Apparently my uncle was involved in the backyard wrestling scene in middle of nowhere Pacific Northwest so it feels like connecting with family I never met. This clown shit is in my blood.
lmao same here! All of my wrestling enjoyment is vicarious
@@ethan-lovesAlso same, though it's because I enjoy the particular creator.
@@aidancox5481 hey, the person presenting the info and how much they care about it makes all the difference. There’s a good reason pat shows up in that playlist a lot :D
I found MDickie's FEDERATION WRESTLING in Poundland (UK) in 2003, I didn't expect much out of a PC game for £1.00
The game just seemed to get better and better the more I played. I even used the wrestler editor to make some of the wrestlers look like my friends.
In 2004 I found, ordered and had delivered Wrentling Mpire (I think it was that one, the 3D one) it came, I couldn't wait to install it on my previously used by many owners Windows 95 PC and when I excitedly double clicked the icon to load the game I was disappointedly greeted by a windows box saying "Could not create 3d environment" Gutted!
That very same weekend I went out to PC World and spent all my money on a Windows XP machine with a Radeon graphics card 128mb I think and loaded that game up and played it every night for a long time. I love love loved it! Thanks to that I became a PC gamer and have been ever since. I bought MDickie's autobiography which he signed for me with a personal message, I may have paid a little extra for his penmanship but it was a nice touch.
Long live the MDickie franchise.
Pat if they ever fire you for speaking truth just know we've got you on Patreon, for whatever type of content you decide to do
This is such a PAT video, and I'm absolutely here for it
The world needs more of these wrestling empire vids from you
I could listen to you talking about wrestling for hours.
This is a masterpiece. The story of Buddy Buchanan needed to be told with this level of depth and empathy. Thanks Pat, you killed it
Been playing this game for years now. It's the best Pro Wrestling Sim out there. MDickie updating it all the time too. Grab it now and you'll have a blast, and that's not a prediction... that's a spoiler!
whatever you can say about how quirky this game is you definitely can’t accuse mdickie of not caring about it or its fans.
You're a good storyteller I feel like if you wrote Buddy Buchanan's story into a book it would be a good read
I feel like that the reason why people fight behind the scenes is because it’s mdickie who made it. A mdickie always has to have someone fight you for no reason
This video is absolutely fantastic. I did not expect this seemingly game review to become as much as a visual opinion article about how unfair it is for wrestlers not to have a union to protect them.
I once had a career with 0 losses for 2+ in-game years and I died due to an injury 💀
Good on Pat for finding a way to justify watching Tom Walker's streams on company time. Also a horrifying look at an industry I knew nothing about.
Wrestling Empire is amazing it might not be graphical compared to rest but it definitely makes up for it
the jpeg visuals make it better
people still get wet over Gmod
Fewer people have eyes..... and didnt notice undertaker only grabbed mankind clothes, and mankind ran and jumped off......
Never expected that a video about an MDickie game could make me tear up
The first time I played the career mode of Wrestling Empire I threw my opponent out of the ring in my first match and he was injured. After I won the match there was a wrestling newsletter report that my opponent died in the hospital from his injuries. Nuts.
I was looking at WWF action figures at my cousin's house the other day, most bought around 2000. Of the 30+ figures there, around 5 of the people depicted are now dead. Most long before their time.
There's also one other, somehow darker thing about the business that can happen in this game.
During one of my playthroughs, I was booked in a hardcore match with another wrestler. After hitting my finisher on him into a trashcan, he gets injured. Swiftly ending the match and getting through the curtain, I find out that he died as a result of his injury.
Nice subtle Bobby Heenan tribute with the "ham & egger" remark.
I remember accidentally finding Wrestling Empire and the rest of MDickie's games. They were awesome.
2:18 "Major promotion" Buddy is literally in the least popular promotion, so it's like an indie with roids
Thanks Pat! I have this game but never gave it an honest shake, and I'll be remedying that today! Unions for all workers!
Another Pat banger. Using dumb video games to talk about a much broader, often times more serious issue, while blending the two together. A god damn master at work.
We never talk about what happens in the subway
one thing you should have mentioned is how wrestling empire covers unionization. you get approached by a colleague who gets you in on it, then you have a choice to snitch him out to the booker or protect him... which is just like what hulk hogan allegedly did (I didn't even know about it before this video). snitching on your colleague will result in their firing
Interesting new episode of The Dark Side of The Ring
MDickie made my childhood, and when pat makes a video about it it's better nostalgia
I love it when Pat talks wrestling, and it's even better when he mentions unions. Solidarity Forever!
Always loved the MDickie wrestling games. Full career modes with unpredictable outcomes, full customisation over roster & world building, great grappling system, lots of world interactivity, interchangeable stats. It's what every wrestling game tries to be which gets limited by trying too hard to be realistic & pandering to the product because of the official licensing.
Most of my favourite & funniest wrestling game moments come from the MDickie games. Once, I started doing a booking career. On the first show of the year, I had Ryback booked in a match for the IC title. When Ryback was on his way to the ring, he accidentally fell off the ring stairs & went through a badly placed table & got injured 😂 when he eventually got in the ring after a whole minute of crawling, his opponent squashes him in 20 seconds. After the match, it was reported that his career was over & he'll never wrestle again. I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself.
I find it unfortunate that the attacks behind the scenes at the beginning were so unrealistic in the otherwise extremely accurate portrayal of the lower tiers of the wrestling world. It could have just been a work accident. Then, we could all just say: yeah, this is 100% accurate, look at this industry