অল্পবিদ্যা নিয়ে মহাজ্ঞানীর সাথে ভাব নিলে যা হয়,সুনীল স্যার তার শেষ উক্তি দিয়ে বুঝিয়ে দিয়েছেন। I always love him and his works ... loves from Khulna, Bangladesh
Reverend Sunil Ganguly did not insult Rabindranath Tagore,he is simply conveying the truth of evolution process of not only literature,but the actual position of bengali literature in the worldwide view...Dont misjudge his statement...he is a genius.
I fully agree with your openion. There is no doubt that exceptional talent is a prerequisite for securing Noble prize. But...but that is not all..! Lobbying is the most vital factor. Rabindranat was a very lucky person. From his family connections he had a good access to British high society.
সাক্ষাৎকার গ্রহণকারীর কথা অসংলগ্ন, প্রশ্নগুলো এলোমেলো, পরস্পর সম্পর্কবিহীন। 'বিশ্বসাহিত্যের প্রেক্ষিতে বাংলা সাহিত্যকে কিভাবে মূল্যায়ন করেন?' প্রশ্নটি করেই আবার একটা উটকো প্রশ্ন করে বসলেন যেটি আগের প্রশ্নটির সাথে কোনওভাবেই মেলে না। বিশ্বসাহিত্যের সাথে বাংলা সাহিত্যের তুলনাই বা দরকার কী? সাক্ষাৎকার গ্রহণকারী তড়িঘড়ি করে এ প্রসঙ্গ থেকে ও প্রসঙ্গে লাফিয়ে লাফিয়ে যাচ্ছেন। সুনীলের কাছে কিছু জানতে চাইছেন নাকি নিজেই সুনীলকে কিছু জানাতে চাইছেন? তার বালচাপল্য শ্রোতাদের বিরক্তি উৎপাদন না করে পারে না। আর এটাকে কি আড্ডা বলা যায়? সুনীল দাঁড়িয়ে কথা বলছেন বলে মনে হল। হয়তো যাচ্ছিলেন কোথাও। এমন সময় গায়ে-পড়া সাক্ষাৎকার গ্রহণকারীর ভুঁইফোঁড় উপস্থিতি ঘটে। সাহিত্যের প্রসঙ্গে পুরস্কারের কথাই বা কেন আসবে? সাহিত্যচর্চার সাথে তথাকথিত পুরস্কারের কোনও দূরতম সম্পর্কও থাকতে পারে না। সাহিত্যচর্চা সাহিত্যকর্মীর জীবনচর্চার অংশ। এটা তো পুরস্কার পাওয়ার কাজ নয়। যে-জীবন যাপনের অযোগ্য, যে-সত্য বিশাল লজ্জা আর নিরন্তর যন্ত্রণার উৎস, সেই জীবন আর সত্যের ছবি আঁকার অদম্য তাগিদ আর যন্ত্রণার্ত আবেগ থেকেই সাহিত্যিক লিখে যান। এখানে পুরস্কারপ্রাপ্তি দূরে থাক, তাঁর জীবন সংশয় হওয়ার সম্ভাবনাও যথেষ্ট। এটা সাহিত্যের আড্ডা নয়, রাস্তার মোড়ে দাঁড়িয়ে একধরনের খেজুরে আলাপ। যারা বাংলায় সাহিত্যচর্চা করেন, তাঁদের বিশ্বসাহিত্য নিয়ে ভাবার কোনও প্রয়োজন নেই, বাংলা ও বাঙালি সমাজ নিয়ে ভাবলেই তাঁদের লেখা ভাল হবে। রবীন্দ্রনাথ নোবেল পুরস্কার পাওয়ার জন্য লেখেন নি, লিখেছেন মনের তাগিদে। তাঁকে পশ্চিমা সমাজ পুরস্কার দিয়েছে বলে তিনি আমাদের কাছে বড় হয়ে যান নি, বরং তাঁর লেখার সৌন্দর্য, গভীরতা ও ব্যাপ্তিই তাঁকে আমাদের কাছে বড় করেছে। নোবেল না পেলেও তিনি আমাদের কাছে বড়ই থাকতেন। তাঁর লেখা পড়ে বোঝার ক্ষমতা যাদের আছে, তাদের সবার ক্ষেত্রেই এ কথা খাটে ।
@@oniketsoore7772 আপনার লেখা পড়েই বোঝা যাচ্ছে যে বানান ভুলটা ইচ্ছাকৃত ছিল না। আপনি একদম সঠিক কথাগুলি বলেছেন সাক্ষাৎকার-গ্রহণকারীর অপেশাদারি মনোভাবের বিষয়ে। আমিই বরং আমার কমেন্টের জন্য দুঃখিত। আপনি বানানটি এডিট করে সংশোধন করে নিন, আমি আমার কমেন্টটি তুলে নিচ্ছি। ধন্যবাদ।
Thik kotha."Banglar mukh ami dekhiyachhi ,tai ami prithibir rup khujite jai na ar"- rabindranath nobele nei.chhilo-achhe-thakbe hridoye. Kintu keno seta jani na-"nahi jani keho nahi jane"....
Okay, that's your opinion and you're definitely entitled to have one; but it's very irrelevant nd Ur point of objection actually speaks a lot about ur intellectual disabilities.....I would rather talk about the spirit of the particular discussion here in this video, which quite surprisingly has been misinterpreted by many in the comments section.
chchagol, mosaheber kobi. if you modernist are so consumate, why have you said, bangla kobitar bhobissat ke she's. aar cigar smoking, ke extra mattobbori.
ar aapnar man ta ki, dhorai jak na aapnar Shera boi ta ke, they who never felt humane to other, corrupted faded through lust, hypocrite on each inch, praise a fine guise this likes, mahakaal will decide the time for these to be exposed, they who are not divinely gifted with the music, on meaningless pride chosen the trick of powerful misinterpretation, obscurity, musicless in our Bengal. each transdental creation, it is the only creation, can't keep itself unclear on any part, even individual view remains nothing obscure to humane heart, but the question is if you all these expert musks under the obscure veil of modern poetry, at all humane, have you ever composed a piece under the command of transcendent grant, you fool?
Luck or coincidence plays an important part in our daily activities, and contributes to the success or failure of our efforts. This cannot be an argument for playing down Tagore's contribution or achievement in many fields.
my latest bengali baul poem :- আমি মাতাল হয়ে গান করি আমি মাতাল হয়ে গান করি আর চুল্লু খাই ! তাই আমাকে,পাগল বলো তোমরা সবাই !! আমার মনের ব্যাথা তোমরা তো আর জানোনা ! তাই, কেউ তোমরা আমার কথা মানোনা !! বোলি চলো ঘরে, বোতল আছে চুল্লু ভরা ! তার সাথে দেব তোমায় পোস্তর বড়া !! দুপুর রোদে সারাদিন চাষ করি মাঠে ! সন্ধে বেলায় চুল্লু টানি গঙ্গা নদীর ঘাটে !! ভোটের সময় নেতা আসে হাত জোড় কোরে ! সবার কাছে ভোট চায় হাত - পা জুড়ে !! তারপর পাঁচটি বছর দেখা পাওয়া যায়না ! আমাদের কোনো কথা, নেতা কানে নেয়না !! এই বছরে খরা পড়ে, তো ওই বছরে বন্যা ! কী কোরে বিয়া দেব, তিন-তিনটে কন্যা !! চাষ করি সারা বছর, ফসলের দাম পাইনা ! বৌ বাচ্চা ছেড়ে আমি, ফাঁসি লাগাতে চাইনা !! জমিটাও নিয়ে নেবে, শুনেছি যে সরকার ! বড় লোক দের এই জমি, নাকি খুব দরকার !! এই ভাবে কি কেটে যাবে আমার সারা জীবনটা ! না কি কেউ বদলাবে, সরকারের এই ধরণটা !!
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The only distraction was the interviewer... and we had been misled by the title... Sunil babu is quite realistic in this interview. Nothing to be worried about defamation of Gurudev. Different people will have different perspective and in this case the perspectives are quite outright. Viewers please don't make an issue regarding this misleading title. Tagore is Tagore that Sunil babu used to know... no place for scepticism...
Biggest hypocrite , and baseless man Sunil..he did not know what rubbish he had been talking.. what the he'll did he write Bengali litaratur when he himself could not pit it to that level. Bengali movie gets awarded by world . He rubbish tarnished RN tagore. He was the biggest nonsense and hypocrite
True intellectual speaking candidly without fear or favour. Mostly I found my own opinions which I better not Express. Only why we are discussing world. Come to India. Very thankfully because of national anthem and ekla cholo popularised by Gandhi and few others tagore is not so well known. Communication media has not helped actually.
Late Sunil Gangopadhay's claims are a load of crap. Every Bengali who has cared for his mother- tounge, has grown up with Kabi Guru's literature making up his reverie. Kabi Guru has given to Bangla literature that which maybe scarcely possible for any poet in any genre in any time frame possible. Is it our duty only to doubt him....
Idiot interview ta bojhar buddhi aapnar kache nei tai apni ja ta mane bujhechen. Sunil sir theek bolechen. Apnader moto lokera shudhu nijer paray beron bishe ki hocche ba bisher ki motamot apni bujhbenna
Did not enjoy a bit. Sunil is also one of my favourite, but I do not know why he down played works of Rabindranath. Did he know what English Poets and writers did at that time with Rabindranath and his works
He did not down play kabi guru at all... All he is saying that we live in an illusion about his popularity in the western literary society. Which is a fact
As far as u know Tagore got Noble for Geetanjali..so why this topic is being raised..Geetanjali was a collection of poems by Tagore..and during that time there was less competition..which now has increased in every profession.So it's very foolish to comment about the time when Tagore got Nobel.
I completely agree to what Sunil Ganguly says... his intention is never to disrespect Tagore. What he states is what the reality is. By singular example, viz. Victoria Okampo, we can't generalize that the West was TagoreStruck as much...
Sunil Gangopadhyay claims Tagore was just lucky because of world's curiosity in Eastern Philosophy. This shows his moral bankruptcy, and his poor ethics. Sunil was an arrogant man and he did not have very good character, according to Taslima Nasreen.
"Aaji hotey sotaborsho poray" our next generations will read Rabindranath but they may not like to read Sunil Gangopadhay. What Sunil Gangopadhay commented about the partiality of NOBEL AWARDS is debatable. It may be his FRUSTRATION of...............
@Roujri bhalo koro shon ki bolchhe; sunil-er lekha por -- purba paschim, sei somoy. robi thakur-er lekha por - gora, gitabitan. nobel prize-e ki ese jay?
I think, Sunil is not qualified enough to claim this. I have found half of his literature really lacking substance or being copied from other literature. His style of writing was not appealing enough to keep a reader engaged . He happens to capture the nature of a very limited generation of a certain time period in a sellable manner . Moreover the rapport with anadabazar group i.e. Ananda publishers and for his influence over several guilds , he has been able to create an influence . This may be one of the reasons why today's generation find him boring and unoriginal in thoughts but they definitely love rabindranath's short stories even after so many decades .
Couldn't agree more. One comment says that why should we compare Bengali literature with world literature. If we don't read world literature or compare Bengali literature with it then we would never produce world class writing. He says that there are better works written in Bengali. Utter BS. I wouldn't even compare it with classics. But Bengali literature couldn't even think of producing something like septology or Gravity's Rainbow or Books of Jacob. The last writers who tried to do something Avant garde were Akhtaruzzaman Elias, Kamal kumar mazumdar, Subimal Mishra and Sahidul Zahir. But none of them ever got mass appeal or popularity because they mostly ripped off western writers and an average Bengali reader hates anything that is even remotely challenging.
Sunil was an average writer. He used to punch beyond his weight. He once made unpleasant remarks against taslima Nasreen. He was jealous of her popularity.
Only a mediocre writer can think of denigrating another. Sunil Ganguli is a very entertaining writer. I immensely enjoy his books but if he can't appreciate the depth of Tagore he is either stupid or jealous. I strongly suspect the latter.
This is not about being jealous, he is simply saying that we bengalis pride ourselves saying rabindranth is our jewel but as rabi da is proclaimed to be a biswakabi that title is no more . And what he said about lack of good bengali novels translations Is also correct, if no proper translation then how will it reach the world
Wrong assessment and presentation on Rabindranath.... .bogus logic... it is not expected from a person like him. Turkey was known to Europe for long days.. Why Turkey is now selected? Talking like a gossip participant ... Definitely He was a talented person but not comparable with Rabindranath. Actually he could not be in this stature too without talking against Rabindranath... it is a very old technique.
@@sandipanmukherjee9088 Tachara eder kono upai chilo na. Bibhutibhushan, Sharatchandra.... eder karor Rabindranather nam-e baje kotha bolte hoi ni. Kintu tarer kaj ajo beche ache. karon eder elem chilo.
Are you crazy? He never said anything wrong about Tagore. We all know you can't get a nobel prize just bcz you are talented, the committee have to be aware of you, and luck also matters. He said western curiosity about east in those days worked as a charm in Tagore's case. But he never said Rabi Thakoor was incompetent. So, don't miss lead people.
Moreover, he never compared himself with Tagore. Turkey might be known to people for long, but we all know these days you can't get any award without lobby. Not only Nobel, but Oscar too. It is a big world with lots of talented people, you can't give them all a Nobel prize. So it is easy for them to eliminate people through lobby. Doesn't mean people who are getting those prizes are less talented or people who are not getting are less deserving. They are trying to give it to deserving people from different region that's what he said.
He is hurt by the treatment Rabindranath Tagore gets in today's world in his own country.... Tagore's work should be promoted more ... Translated more in other languages too regional as well as international. Also other regional writers. Many Indian writers went unnoticed. Tagore's Nobel prize was stolen too🙄
Sometimes we try to show off our inner knowledge so much that we often forget about the person standing in front of us. Dear interviewer you are a disaster .
রবি ঠাকুরের লেখায় একটা word ও বাদ দেওয়া যায় না কিন্তু সুনিল বাবুর লেখায় ১০% অসার sentance আরামসে বাদ দিয়ে দেওয়া যায়। সুনিল বাবুর যোগ্যতা থেকে সে বেশি সন্মান পেয়েছেন নেতা সুনিলবাবু হিসাবে।
How poorly informed these people are when they talk about Rabindranath and his Gitanjali. They fail to acknowledge his greatness out of sheer envy and disappointment for not being able to be anywhere near his depth and personality.
Are you crazy? He never said anything wrong about Tagore. We all know you can't get a nobel prize just bcz you are talented, the committee have to be aware of you, and luck also matters. He said western curiosity about east in those days worked as a charm in Tagore's case. But he never said Rabi Thakoor was incompetent. So, don't miss lead people.
I agree with Sunil. Tagore was lucky, he got the benefit from a convenient time when the west was interested in India and Indian culture. Also at that time, the British government was interested to provide some reparation for their colonial exploitation of Indian people through the form of reward (Nobel) and recognition (knighthood) to their loyal agents.
"Yeats translated Tagore's poems" ...... SERIOUSLY, Ipshita Gupta !!!??? You really don't believe this, do you? Did Yeats know Bengali in the first place, to be able to translate Tagore? Fact: The English Gitanjali for which Tagore got the Nobel prize was entirely Tagore's own translation (and hence unsatisfactory). Yeats edited Tagore's English version, as he edited some of Tagore's subsequent English translations as well, till Tagore and Yeats fell apart and practically parted ways.
Dump interviewer trying to show off intelligence which he doesn’t have. Sunil was a genius, a great fan of Tagore who understood and loved Tagore more than anyone who left their comments here. He has a point. No one really cares about Rabindranath outside Bengal. In Bengal, very few people actually understand Tagore. Most Bengalis are busy worshipping Tagore. At least Sunil took the challenge of getting out of Tagore’s influences. Sunil is the father of Bengali modernism in literature. One of his last interviews he said he came back to Tagore’s songs as an admirer.
The interviewer seems more keen to establish his ideas rather than letting late eminent writer express his own ... A Bad example of Journalism ..And on Top of it , he got the facts wrong
I will hope, it's not same when a rabbit thinks no one is looking for him/her while hiding behind a small tree/bush. Though we are now very sincerely making effort for degradation of literature, that does not mean or that does not hint that earlier all was mean too. Point should be whether that was masterpiece was or not? I don't think even after 100+ years, if anyone dares to reach to that standard or quality, i mean poem and song! So he was having nothing 100+ years back- how sensible argument can this be? Forget about other language or state or country, the typical phase through which so-called bengalis are advancing,we will not take much time to forget him!
All europe country doesn't follow english literature ,only London and america has been following english literature. So proud for own language rather then english literature. If you believe in your creation . So definitely world will follow you. But you need strong lobby.
God let him answer before asking the next question and inserting your own mirror. The interviewer should just sit in front of the mirror and interview himself.
May be Sunil Gangly rightly said that in 1912-1915 there was a interest in East, R.N.Tagore literature is so international beyond language. It is internationally acclaimed then and now in many countries. Many Universities have started Bengali as a literature course through Tagore Literature model. Because It touches some ones heart. I stays at US.Many areas ( remote cities) is aware of R.N Tagore. But they won't understand Sunil Ganguly in next 100 years though he has multiple time visited US.
সাক্ষাৎকারটি যিনি নিয়েছেন, তার বাঁচালতা বড্ড বেশী,সুনীল কে ঠিকমতো কথাই বলতে দিচ্ছিলেন না।
Tayeba Zaman ঠিক বলেছেন!
Whitish a
সুনীল যা বলেছেন একদম বাস্তবটা দেখেই বলেছেন। খুব ভাল লাগল। তবে সাক্ষাতকারক আর একটু কম কথা বললেই ভাল করতেন।
Lol 😂😂😂
একদম ঠিক। মহা বাচাল।
Hey Sir! Try to be a good listener, not speaker. Mr Sunil Saheb, is the focus here, not you. Let him talk, don’t interrupt/Interrogate him.
exactly....
অল্পবিদ্যা নিয়ে মহাজ্ঞানীর সাথে ভাব নিলে যা হয়,সুনীল স্যার তার শেষ উক্তি দিয়ে বুঝিয়ে দিয়েছেন। I always love him and his works ...
loves from Khulna, Bangladesh
He doesn't fear being outspoken. We always miss you sir...
Reverend Sunil Ganguly did not insult Rabindranath Tagore,he is simply conveying the truth of evolution process of not only literature,but the actual position of bengali literature in the worldwide view...Dont misjudge his statement...he is a genius.
Yes ,late Mr Sunil sir said absolutely correct. If you have strong lobby ,then you can win noble prize
I fully agree with your openion. There is no doubt that exceptional talent is a prerequisite for securing Noble prize. But...but that is not all..! Lobbying is the most vital factor. Rabindranat was a very lucky person. From his family connections he had a good access to British high society.
Title is really misleading! Interviewer is more interested in showing his knowledge (?) instead of listening.
+Suman Chalki Yes Calpol is talking too much as the interview progresses.
exactly
Shetai
Reporter er anek kichu mone hoy
Shotto mene nite koshto hoy..
@@PratapArya Calpol? সেটা কে? সে তো জ্বরের ওষুধ!😱😵
হাহাহা অল্পবিদ্যা নিয়ে মহাজ্ঞানীর সাথে ভাব নিলে যা হয়,সুনীল স্যার তার শেষ উক্তি দিয়ে বুঝিয়ে দিলেন
আর আপনি তা আপনার এই উক্তিটা দিয়েই বুঝিয়ে দিয়েছেন। 😆😆
কাংলু ভিখারি
@@mayhost7466
তোর পরিচয় কেউ জানতে চায় নি এখানে।
শ্রদ্ধেও সুনীল স্যার হচ্ছেন মহাসাগর উনার কাছে ভাষা ভাষা কথা বললে হবেনা।।।।
@@mayhost7466
Irrelevant comment
সাক্ষাৎকার গ্রহণকারীর কথা অসংলগ্ন, প্রশ্নগুলো এলোমেলো, পরস্পর সম্পর্কবিহীন। 'বিশ্বসাহিত্যের প্রেক্ষিতে বাংলা সাহিত্যকে কিভাবে মূল্যায়ন করেন?' প্রশ্নটি করেই আবার একটা উটকো প্রশ্ন করে বসলেন যেটি আগের প্রশ্নটির সাথে কোনওভাবেই মেলে না। বিশ্বসাহিত্যের সাথে বাংলা সাহিত্যের তুলনাই বা দরকার কী? সাক্ষাৎকার গ্রহণকারী তড়িঘড়ি করে এ প্রসঙ্গ থেকে ও প্রসঙ্গে লাফিয়ে লাফিয়ে যাচ্ছেন। সুনীলের কাছে কিছু জানতে চাইছেন নাকি নিজেই সুনীলকে কিছু জানাতে চাইছেন? তার বালচাপল্য শ্রোতাদের বিরক্তি উৎপাদন না করে পারে না। আর এটাকে কি আড্ডা বলা যায়? সুনীল দাঁড়িয়ে কথা বলছেন বলে মনে হল। হয়তো যাচ্ছিলেন কোথাও। এমন সময় গায়ে-পড়া সাক্ষাৎকার গ্রহণকারীর ভুঁইফোঁড় উপস্থিতি ঘটে। সাহিত্যের প্রসঙ্গে পুরস্কারের কথাই বা কেন আসবে? সাহিত্যচর্চার সাথে তথাকথিত পুরস্কারের কোনও দূরতম সম্পর্কও থাকতে পারে না। সাহিত্যচর্চা সাহিত্যকর্মীর জীবনচর্চার অংশ। এটা তো পুরস্কার পাওয়ার কাজ নয়। যে-জীবন যাপনের অযোগ্য, যে-সত্য বিশাল লজ্জা আর নিরন্তর যন্ত্রণার উৎস, সেই জীবন আর সত্যের ছবি আঁকার অদম্য তাগিদ আর যন্ত্রণার্ত আবেগ থেকেই সাহিত্যিক লিখে যান। এখানে পুরস্কারপ্রাপ্তি দূরে থাক, তাঁর জীবন সংশয় হওয়ার সম্ভাবনাও যথেষ্ট। এটা সাহিত্যের আড্ডা নয়, রাস্তার মোড়ে দাঁড়িয়ে একধরনের খেজুরে আলাপ। যারা বাংলায় সাহিত্যচর্চা করেন, তাঁদের বিশ্বসাহিত্য নিয়ে ভাবার কোনও প্রয়োজন নেই, বাংলা ও বাঙালি সমাজ নিয়ে ভাবলেই তাঁদের লেখা ভাল হবে। রবীন্দ্রনাথ নোবেল পুরস্কার পাওয়ার জন্য লেখেন নি, লিখেছেন মনের তাগিদে। তাঁকে পশ্চিমা সমাজ পুরস্কার দিয়েছে বলে তিনি আমাদের কাছে বড় হয়ে যান নি, বরং তাঁর লেখার সৌন্দর্য, গভীরতা ও ব্যাপ্তিই তাঁকে আমাদের কাছে বড় করেছে। নোবেল না পেলেও তিনি আমাদের কাছে বড়ই থাকতেন। তাঁর লেখা পড়ে বোঝার ক্ষমতা যাদের আছে, তাদের সবার ক্ষেত্রেই এ কথা খাটে ।
Exactly
@@tinfoilhatseller দ্রুত টাইপ করতে গিয়ে ভুল হয়ে গেছে। দুঃখিত।
@@oniketsoore7772 আপনার লেখা পড়েই বোঝা যাচ্ছে যে বানান ভুলটা ইচ্ছাকৃত ছিল না। আপনি একদম সঠিক কথাগুলি বলেছেন সাক্ষাৎকার-গ্রহণকারীর অপেশাদারি মনোভাবের বিষয়ে। আমিই বরং আমার কমেন্টের জন্য দুঃখিত। আপনি বানানটি এডিট করে সংশোধন করে নিন, আমি আমার কমেন্টটি তুলে নিচ্ছি। ধন্যবাদ।
@@tinfoilhatseller বানান সংশোধিত। ধন্যবাদ Soumili Basak
Thik kotha."Banglar mukh ami dekhiyachhi ,tai ami prithibir rup khujite jai na ar"- rabindranath nobele nei.chhilo-achhe-thakbe hridoye. Kintu keno seta jani na-"nahi jani keho nahi jane"....
"Orphan Pamuk" , "Dostoboesky" !!!! Ei gobet ta ke! Ar Sunil Gangopadhyay er kotha shonar aagei eto gyan keno? Tumi ke Bawa!
Ei halay mejaj ta gorom kore dise. Cancerous ekta interviewer.
Agreed 💯
:) Soo straight forward.. !! What a magnificent man.. . !!!
:l I believe, simplicity makes him more attractive & gentleman . . .
Please correct me if I am wrong. In the whole interview where the word "lucky" has been pronounced? Then why did you use it in the title of the video?
An honest discussion with a misleading title. Interviewer should not put words on interviewee's mouth just for sensation.
ওনার মতো কিংবদন্তি মানুষ, যা ভাবতেন আর যা বলতেন একাবারে পানির মতো পরিস্কার, আমরা বুঝতে পারলাম কিনা সেটাই প্রশ্ন। আর কবিগুরু কে একেবারেই ছোট করেননি।
Okay, that's your opinion and you're definitely entitled to have one; but it's very irrelevant nd Ur point of objection actually speaks a lot about ur intellectual disabilities.....I would rather talk about the spirit of the particular discussion here in this video, which quite surprisingly has been misinterpreted by many in the comments section.
আমি কিন্তু একমত। উনি ছোট করে দেখান নি। উনার মত টা অনেকে বোঝেননি
@@beautifulworld2608 আপনিও 'বোঝেন্নি' বানানটা বোঝেননি।
@@tinfoilhatseller উনি তো ঠিকই লিখেছেন!! সবজান্তা গেঞ্জিওয়ালা!!! নিজের চোখটা অসিত চ্যাটার্জ্জীর কাছে দেখিয়ে আসুন আগে!!
@@sb-oo8oc যাব্বাবা, উনি চুপিচুপি edit করে নিয়েছেন। আমিই তো ওনার বোধোদয় ঘটালাম!😊
যদিও এখনও আমি 'উনার' বানানটাকে honour করতে পারছি না।
Guru, thanks for giving such a realistic talk. I do agree with you.
Regards
the interviewer kept interrupting Sunil Ganguli... Very annoying!!
sunil suffered from an inferiorty complex it looked like.poor chap.and a useless writer.
chchagol, mosaheber kobi. if you modernist are so consumate, why have you said, bangla kobitar bhobissat ke she's. aar cigar smoking, ke extra mattobbori.
ar aapnar man ta ki, dhorai jak na aapnar Shera boi ta ke, they who never felt humane to other, corrupted faded through lust, hypocrite on each inch, praise a fine guise this likes, mahakaal will decide the time for these to be exposed, they who are not divinely gifted with the music, on meaningless pride chosen the trick of powerful misinterpretation, obscurity, musicless in our Bengal. each transdental creation, it is the only creation, can't keep itself unclear on any part, even individual view remains nothing obscure to humane heart, but the question is if you all these expert musks under the obscure veil of modern poetry, at all humane, have you ever composed a piece under the command of transcendent grant, you fool?
MadhusreeDevi, Jathartai bolechhen. Thanx.
@@protappramanick6840
প্রতাপবাবু- খড়্গ'নাসা',
যেথায়-সেথায় নাক গলান।
রবিবাবুর কবতে পড়ে
সুনীলবাবুর কান মলান!
Very few people in this world is enough brave to speak like mr. Sunil . He try to speak the facts .
Luck or coincidence plays an important part in our daily activities, and contributes to the success or failure of our efforts. This cannot be an argument for playing down Tagore's contribution or achievement in many fields.
Right sir
and BTW he never mentioned "Tagore was lucky" anywhere in this clip !!!
my latest bengali baul poem :-
আমি মাতাল হয়ে গান করি
আমি মাতাল হয়ে গান করি আর চুল্লু খাই !
তাই আমাকে,পাগল বলো তোমরা সবাই !!
আমার মনের ব্যাথা তোমরা তো আর জানোনা !
তাই, কেউ তোমরা আমার কথা মানোনা !!
বোলি চলো ঘরে, বোতল আছে চুল্লু ভরা !
তার সাথে দেব তোমায় পোস্তর বড়া !!
দুপুর রোদে সারাদিন চাষ করি মাঠে !
সন্ধে বেলায় চুল্লু টানি গঙ্গা নদীর ঘাটে !!
ভোটের সময় নেতা আসে হাত জোড় কোরে !
সবার কাছে ভোট চায় হাত - পা জুড়ে !!
তারপর পাঁচটি বছর দেখা পাওয়া যায়না !
আমাদের কোনো কথা, নেতা কানে নেয়না !!
এই বছরে খরা পড়ে, তো ওই বছরে বন্যা !
কী কোরে বিয়া দেব, তিন-তিনটে কন্যা !!
চাষ করি সারা বছর, ফসলের দাম পাইনা !
বৌ বাচ্চা ছেড়ে আমি, ফাঁসি লাগাতে চাইনা !!
জমিটাও নিয়ে নেবে, শুনেছি যে সরকার !
বড় লোক দের এই জমি, নাকি খুব দরকার !!
এই ভাবে কি কেটে যাবে আমার সারা জীবনটা !
না কি কেউ বদলাবে, সরকারের এই ধরণটা !!
ইস্!! সুনীল আপনার কবিতাটা পড়লেন না বলেই বুঝলেন না যে,দ্বিতীয় রবীন্দ্রনাথ এসে গেছেন।
@@sb-oo8oc উঁহু, তৃতীয় জীবনানন্দ... দ্বিতীয়টা আপনি।
@@tinfoilhatseller হেঁ হেঁ হেঁ, তা যা বলেছেন!! হেঁ হেঁ, আপনার কথাটা একদম সঠিক, কিন্তু, হেঁ হেঁ, সবার সামনে এভাবে বলবেন না যেন,কারণ, হেঁহেঁ, নিজের প্রচার একদম পছন্দ করি না কিনা হেঁ হেঁ হেঁ
Pore je kabitati likheche seita ekta suorer baccha.
Kakababu vokvok kore valoi fukchhe..🙂Cigarette ta kom khele aro kichhu bochhor hoyto bachten..Jai hok..Thanks a lot..Kakababu series er jonno..Thrill,Suspence,Sundor sundor jaygar description sob eksathe..
শেষে মিষ্টিমুখে এভাবেই চুপ করাতে হয় , "তুমি ঠিক বলছ না " ।
Whose interview is it? I thought it was Sunil Ganguli’s interview.
Genius is never crowded out.
It is not important to get comments of Sunil Gangopadhya on Rabindranath. An useless
interview leads nowhere
Manas Jana absolutely...
The only distraction was the interviewer... and we had been misled by the title... Sunil babu is quite realistic in this interview. Nothing to be worried about defamation of Gurudev. Different people will have different perspective and in this case the perspectives are quite outright. Viewers please don't make an issue regarding this misleading title. Tagore is Tagore that Sunil babu used to know... no place for scepticism...
Tumi vai r karo interview niyo na
নেব।
@@tinfoilhatseller আমিও নেব।তবে,ওঁর নয়,তোর।
@@sb-oo8oc পাগল! গুঁতো খেতে রাজি নই, তায় আবার ইন্টারভিউয়ারের গুঁতো!
@@tinfoilhatseller আমি ছুরির গুঁতো দিই,সেটাই তাহলে তোকে দেব।
@@sb-oo8oc ছুরির, না শিঙের???😆😆🐐🐐🐐
ওপার বাংলা থেকে ৷
কিছু অপ্রিয় সত্যি বল্লেন, ধন্যবাদ সুনীল স্যার ৷
সবচেয়ে ভালো interviewer সেই যে বক্তাকে বলার সুযোগ দেয় ঠিক মত। উপস্থাপক বোধ হয় ভুলেই গিয়েছিলেন তিনি নয়; সুনীলের কথা শুনতেই দর্শক আগ্রহী ।
অন্য সবকিছু বাদ দিলাম!!!
আমার এই লোকটাকে দেখে মনে হয় যে,,
এই রক্তে মাংসে গড়া মানুষটা নীরা লেখেন।।।💕
Biggest hypocrite , and baseless man Sunil..he did not know what rubbish he had been talking.. what the he'll did he write Bengali litaratur when he himself could not pit it to that level. Bengali movie gets awarded by world . He rubbish tarnished RN tagore. He was the biggest nonsense and hypocrite
No. He did not tarnish Tagore, would never do that. Had he done so every one would have commented in same vein as you do.
দাদা, বিশ্বসাহিত্য নিয়ে আপনি নিজেকে নিয়েই নিজে একটা ভিডিও বানান নাহ।
True intellectual speaking candidly without fear or favour. Mostly I found my own opinions which I better not Express. Only why we are discussing world. Come to India. Very thankfully because of national anthem and ekla cholo popularised by Gandhi and few others tagore is not so well known. Communication media has not helped actually.
Late Sunil Gangopadhay's claims are a load of crap. Every Bengali who has cared for his mother- tounge, has grown up with Kabi Guru's literature making up his reverie. Kabi Guru has given to Bangla literature that which maybe scarcely possible for any poet in any genre in any time frame possible. Is it our duty only to doubt him....
Uni ja bolte cheyechhen kichhui bojhenni apni
Idiot interview ta bojhar buddhi aapnar kache nei tai apni ja ta mane bujhechen. Sunil sir theek bolechen.
Apnader moto lokera shudhu nijer paray beron bishe ki hocche ba bisher ki motamot apni bujhbenna
Whose interview is it, anyway? ;-)
A real genius, Sunil da
Who the hell is "Orphan Pamuk" ? Is he related to Orhan Pamuk ? Interviewer has not done his homework, man !!
Did not enjoy a bit. Sunil is also one of my favourite, but I do not know why he down played works of Rabindranath. Did he know what English Poets and writers did at that time with Rabindranath and his works
He did not down play kabi guru at all... All he is saying that we live in an illusion about his popularity in the western literary society. Which is a fact
Either title it in Bengali, or give subtitles for the title's sake.
As far as u know Tagore got Noble for Geetanjali..so why this topic is being raised..Geetanjali was a collection of poems by Tagore..and during that time there was less competition..which now has increased in every profession.So it's very foolish to comment about the time when Tagore got Nobel.
sougata dasgupta apni vul bllen....150 bochor age competetion kom chilona...rabindranath etotai outstanding chilen je sobaike etota niche rekhe chapie gechen je onyo keu competetion field onar sthe asar sujog panni...onar mrityur porei dijendrolal ray,sunil ganguly enara kin2 obokas peyechen
Soham, Ekdam thik. Thanx
Yes.Rabindranath etotai outstanding chilen...apnar Kotha onujai...very tightly said..tahole competition er bapar ta Amar bhul... But Tagore outstanding chilo bolei aar keo sujog paeni..
I am kind of glad that the video has not been deleted yet after a number of befitting insulted comments.
I completely agree to what Sunil Ganguly says... his intention is never to disrespect Tagore. What he states is what the reality is. By singular example, viz. Victoria Okampo, we can't generalize that the West was TagoreStruck as much...
Sunil Gangopadhyay claims Tagore was just lucky because of world's curiosity in Eastern Philosophy. This shows his moral bankruptcy, and his poor ethics. Sunil was an arrogant man and he did not have very good character, according to Taslima Nasreen.
True.I appreciate your comment
The title of this video is misleading. In this interview Sunil Gangopadhyay never expressed categorically in words that "Tagore was just lucky ....".
"Aaji hotey sotaborsho poray" our next generations will read Rabindranath but they may not like to read Sunil Gangopadhay.
What Sunil Gangopadhay commented about the partiality of NOBEL AWARDS is debatable. It may be his FRUSTRATION of...............
ছিঃ ! সাক্ষাৎকারটা কার নিচ্ছেন একবার চিন্তা করুন অন্তত ! তর্ক পরে করবেন !
@Roujri bhalo koro shon ki bolchhe; sunil-er lekha por -- purba paschim, sei somoy. robi thakur-er lekha por - gora, gitabitan. nobel prize-e ki ese jay?
Very unfortunate that the interviewer pronounced Orphan instead of Orhan.
ওর হান ( পামুক) / orfan পামু k কতটাই বা তফাৎ ? ছাড়ুন তো । আঁট লামো enjoy করুন।
@@kaushikchatterjee7025 দাদা, রবীন্দ্রনাথ কে চবীন্দ্রনাথ বললেও কি এত সহজভাবে নিতেন?
I think, Sunil is not qualified enough to claim this. I have found half of his literature really lacking substance or being copied from other literature. His style of writing was not appealing enough to keep a reader engaged . He happens to capture the nature of a very limited generation of a certain time period in a sellable manner . Moreover the rapport with anadabazar group i.e. Ananda publishers and for his influence over several guilds , he has been able to create an influence . This may be one of the reasons why today's generation find him boring and unoriginal in thoughts but they definitely love rabindranath's short stories even after so many decades .
Read humayun ahmed
Couldn't agree more. One comment says that why should we compare Bengali literature with world literature. If we don't read world literature or compare Bengali literature with it then we would never produce world class writing. He says that there are better works written in Bengali. Utter BS. I wouldn't even compare it with classics. But Bengali literature couldn't even think of producing something like septology or Gravity's Rainbow or Books of Jacob.
The last writers who tried to do something Avant garde were Akhtaruzzaman Elias, Kamal kumar mazumdar, Subimal Mishra and Sahidul Zahir. But none of them ever got mass appeal or popularity because they mostly ripped off western writers and an average Bengali reader hates anything that is even remotely challenging.
Why is nobody talking about how is voice and way of talking sounds exactly like Soumitra Chatterjee ❤
The problem is we made Tagore and Sunil Ganguly Regional figures: not Indian writers of Global Stature, Understanding and Intellect.
We miss U Sunil Sir
Sunil was an average writer. He used to punch beyond his weight. He once made unpleasant remarks against taslima Nasreen. He was jealous of her popularity.
Ata apnar matamat. Jadi lekhani tulana kori, sunil er bhasa, pesh korar vangima ank besi sundor. Bhasha er marpach ank besi mon chua jay. Tashlima er lekha controvercial, hence popular. Kintu bhasha er sei madhurjo koi!!!!
Critics are dime a dozen...Tagore is one in a million!
Sam B u must hv meant a million years!!! tagore's genius is comparable to only newton's and einstein's..
@@vijeberal803 Precisely!
Who is the one interviewing Sunil Gangopadhyay? He should first learn to pronounce properly! How very poor pronounciation!
Only a mediocre writer can think of denigrating another. Sunil Ganguli is a very entertaining writer. I immensely enjoy his books but if he can't appreciate the depth of Tagore he is either stupid or jealous. I strongly suspect the latter.
He is both, stupid and jealous. He is a plain idiot.
This is not about being jealous, he is simply saying that we bengalis pride ourselves saying rabindranth is our jewel but as rabi da is proclaimed to be a biswakabi that title is no more .
And what he said about lack of good bengali novels translations Is also correct, if no proper translation then how will it reach the world
Wrong assessment and presentation on Rabindranath.... .bogus logic... it is not expected from a person like him. Turkey was known to Europe for long days.. Why Turkey is now selected? Talking like a gossip participant ... Definitely He was a talented person but not comparable with Rabindranath. Actually he could not be in this stature too without talking against Rabindranath... it is a very old technique.
Buro baiase bhomroti
asole shunil er sahityo jogote probesh e ghotechilo rabindra birodhi hisabe.. shunil, shokti era sobai rabindra birodhi doler sodoshyo..kintu rabindranath tou rabindranath e..jotoi birodhita koro
@@sandipanmukherjee9088 Tachara eder kono upai chilo na. Bibhutibhushan, Sharatchandra.... eder karor Rabindranather nam-e baje kotha bolte hoi ni. Kintu tarer kaj ajo beche ache. karon eder elem chilo.
Are you crazy? He never said anything wrong about Tagore. We all know you can't get a nobel prize just bcz you are talented, the committee have to be aware of you, and luck also matters. He said western curiosity about east in those days worked as a charm in Tagore's case. But he never said Rabi Thakoor was incompetent. So, don't miss lead people.
Moreover, he never compared himself with Tagore. Turkey might be known to people for long, but we all know these days you can't get any award without lobby. Not only Nobel, but Oscar too. It is a big world with lots of talented people, you can't give them all a Nobel prize. So it is easy for them to eliminate people through lobby. Doesn't mean people who are getting those prizes are less talented or people who are not getting are less deserving. They are trying to give it to deserving people from different region that's what he said.
He is hurt by the treatment Rabindranath Tagore gets in today's world in his own country.... Tagore's work should be promoted more ... Translated more in other languages too regional as well as international.
Also other regional writers. Many Indian writers went unnoticed. Tagore's Nobel prize was stolen too🙄
Sometimes we try to show off our inner knowledge so much that we often forget about the person standing in front of us.
Dear interviewer you are a disaster .
Manus ti mara gache..tai sobai k onurodh korbo bad comment korben na..karon misleading title diye ei manus tike kalima-lipto korar chesta hoyeche..
The interviewer's bangla is very poor .. he is interviewing Sunil Ganguly and needs to understand that language is very important ..
Kakabu valoi cigarette phukchen....bengali avijatya hoyto etai😆
Misleading title, interviewer only trying to highlight his knowledge , disappointment
রবি ঠাকুরের লেখায় একটা word ও বাদ দেওয়া যায় না কিন্তু সুনিল বাবুর লেখায় ১০% অসার sentance আরামসে বাদ দিয়ে দেওয়া যায়। সুনিল বাবুর যোগ্যতা থেকে সে বেশি সন্মান পেয়েছেন নেতা সুনিলবাবু হিসাবে।
কী বাদ দেওয়া যায় জানি না,তবে এটা বলতে পারি, আপনার "সুনীল" বানানটা দেখে আপনার মন্তব্যটাই youtube এর কমেন্ট সেকশন থেকে বাদ দেওয়া উচিত।
SUNIL BABUKE EKTA.KATHAI BALA JAI little learning is dangerous thing
How poorly informed these people are when they talk about Rabindranath and his Gitanjali. They fail to acknowledge his greatness out of sheer envy and disappointment for not being able to be anywhere near his depth and personality.
Or range!
Are you crazy? He never said anything wrong about Tagore. We all know you can't get a nobel prize just bcz you are talented, the committee have to be aware of you, and luck also matters. He said western curiosity about east in those days worked as a charm in Tagore's case. But he never said Rabi Thakoor was incompetent. So, don't miss lead people.
his statement is right no doubt .any body judge Rabindranath have to go all literature in the world
I hope so........
Rabindranath can't be compared with any other Indian writer..Rabindranath was awarded Nobel Prize.. it's Nobel Society was glorified
Khati bashtob katha bolchen Sir.kono appeasement korar chesta nei.just ashadharon.jaykhane achen bhalo thakben.
I agree with Sunil. Tagore was lucky, he got the benefit from a convenient time when the west was interested in India and Indian culture. Also at that time, the British government was interested to provide some reparation for their colonial exploitation of Indian people through the form of reward (Nobel) and recognition (knighthood) to their loyal agents.
I am agree with him.....
Legend,we miss you sir
Mr Sunil Gangopadhyay is absolutely right.
The interviewer made himself into a joker🤣
মানুষটি কথা বলে এক অদ্ভূত বিস্ময়ে
I miss you sir
Because Rabindranath was subservient to British and back than subcontinent was part of Britain so its not al about him and Bengali as we perceive !
Biplab Pal ke khoma kore din. O bechara na Rabi thakur ke bujheche na Sunil Babuke!
"Yeats translated Tagore's poems" ...... SERIOUSLY, Ipshita Gupta !!!??? You really don't believe this, do you?
Did Yeats know Bengali in the first place, to be able to translate Tagore?
Fact: The English Gitanjali for which Tagore got the Nobel prize was entirely Tagore's own translation (and hence unsatisfactory). Yeats edited Tagore's English version, as he edited some of Tagore's subsequent English translations as well, till Tagore and Yeats fell apart and practically parted ways.
Absolutely correct.
completely MISLEADING TITLE
Let him talk
Very bachhal je interview nechee
Dump interviewer trying to show off intelligence which he doesn’t have. Sunil was a genius, a great fan of Tagore who understood and loved Tagore more than anyone who left their comments here. He has a point. No one really cares about Rabindranath outside Bengal. In Bengal, very few people actually understand Tagore. Most Bengalis are busy worshipping Tagore. At least Sunil took the challenge of getting out of Tagore’s influences. Sunil is the father of Bengali modernism in literature. One of his last interviews he said he came back to Tagore’s songs as an admirer.
The interviewer seems more keen to establish his ideas rather than letting late eminent writer express his own ... A Bad example of Journalism ..And on Top of it , he got the facts wrong
ডাইজেস্ট পড়ে লব্ধ জ্ঞান, তাই দস্তয়েভস্কিকেও মাল বলে। ওরহান পামুক কে ওরফান বলে। সে নিচ্ছে সুনীল এর ইন্টারভিউ!!!
I will hope, it's not same when a rabbit thinks no one is looking for him/her while hiding behind a small tree/bush. Though we are now very sincerely making effort for degradation of literature, that does not mean or that does not hint that earlier all was mean too. Point should be whether that was masterpiece was or not? I don't think even after 100+ years, if anyone dares to reach to that standard or quality, i mean poem and song! So he was having nothing 100+ years back- how sensible argument can this be? Forget about other language or state or country, the typical phase through which so-called bengalis are advancing,we will not take much time to forget him!
Like Chekhov, who hasn't been able to influence American short stories?
Olpo kichukhon er jonno ki cigarette ta bad dite partona? Ashole manush ke era grajhoi, poroa korena!!!!
সাক্ষাৎকারের একদম শেষে এসে মহাশয়ের বেলুনটি ফুস্ হয়ে গ্যালো। যাই হোক, সাক্ষাৎকারটি অন্তত নেওয়ার জন্য বিপচন্দ্রকে ধন্যবাদ।
Omg my favourite author. RIP
Satinath Bhaduri ki niye shune bhalo laglo..he is my grandfather.
Nice conversation and very real.
সুনীলের কবিতা খুবই পছন্দ করি। ব্যাক্তি সুনীলকে ততোটা নয় । এই সাক্ষাত্কারে আরো- - - - গত হয়েছেন বহুদিন হলো। তাঁর আত্মার শান্তি কামনা করি ।
বাচালের সাথে তর্ক না করাই শ্রেয়।
All europe country doesn't follow english literature ,only London
and america has been following english literature. So proud for own language rather then english literature. If you believe in your creation . So definitely world will follow you. But you need strong lobby.
সুনীল ভালো বলেছেন, যুক্তি আছে।
Universe Boss বিড়ি জ্বালাইয়া
God let him answer before asking the next question and inserting your own mirror. The interviewer should just sit in front of the mirror and interview himself.
The interviewer is busy giving his opinion than letting Sunil talk .....:(
May be Sunil Gangly rightly said that in 1912-1915 there was a interest in East, R.N.Tagore literature is so international beyond language. It is internationally acclaimed then and now in many countries.
Many Universities have started Bengali as a literature course through Tagore Literature model.
Because It touches some ones heart.
I stays at US.Many areas ( remote cities) is aware of R.N Tagore.
But they won't understand Sunil Ganguly in next 100 years though he has multiple time visited US.
আপনার সিগারেট খাওয়া ব্যাপারটা আমার একেবারে পছন্দ হয় নি।
The Interviewer talking as if he is debating with Sunil Gangopadhyay.