Next video: HOW A SUPPORT SKARNER CLIMBED TO CHALLENGER using hex-tec flash + double stun - Skarner is the least played champion so no one knows how to play against it (source: leagueofgraphs) - Skaner has multiple stuns - Skarner is tankier than even Leona (surprised?) - Skarner's strength is high damage (like cassio/viktor) - Skarner's weakness is mobility (no dash) that is compensated as support champion with hex-tec flash and always in fog of war - with teleport summoner all other enemies during early, mid and late game need to play extremely save or they get teleported on + R + burst - Support Skarner presses the teleport button each minute and then cancels it with the B button - Skarner is so unpopular that even in master elo, enemies don't know that skarner in late game can spam many stuns in high succession during each fight - at the start at each game, he riles up his teammates to go for a cheesy lvl 1 gank with skarner as tank + burst (imagine, a freaking support is BURST, TANK all in one and once he's almost dead you get stunt again and the rest of your teammates finish it off)
Ah man, I was happy when the why everyone plays thresh video came out. I played thresh so much back then and even mained him for the better part of the last year but right now he feels a bit weak.
Addy is crazy, he's got to be one of the best soloq players out there, imagine how well he'd do if he stopped trollpicking and became a boring meta golem, maybe even took flash.
@@losl5216 Lol yeah, because it is not something most people think about doing. It doesn't mean it is inherently bad though. A lot of meta picks, start off as off meta picks... Not to mention, people are less likely to know how to play against off meta picks, hence the advantage.
@@losl5216 yes but off meta isn't off meta because it's bad but because it needs some thinking instead of building the same build as every other champ in the same category there is a difference between off meta and trollpick take things like tank kog maw seems dumb but some time ago it was op or mathematicaly correct sett it was a dumb theorycraft that ended up being op... and we can go on and on most off meta pick aren't really good but the good ones often outperform the meta and become meta until they are nerfed into the ground
@@dijonjohn1011 but the thing is, imo, reaching challenger level with not new off meta picks multiple times, with some of them not even being good ones, makes him crazy. Also, I would imagine that in Challenger, playing the advantage of surprise isn’t anywhere near as high as lower elos
I have been a huge believer in thresh top for about 3 years now ever since I started watching Cryo. Seeing this video felt like a fever dream. The amount of flame and hate I have received for playing and endorsing Thresh top has been so massive. I literally deleted my reddit account after being harassed by hundreds of people for saying thresh top was viable. This feels like such a huge vindication. I can’t believe this is real.
Ryze is a good support with spell book, everfrost/luden, cosmic, rylai, winterguard...mainly extending fight so your jungler arrives and stealing enemy golem/chickens
A few tips for people that just watched this video and want to try Thresh Top: 1. have a look at CryoBeat on Yt like Happy Chimes said at the end of the video if you haven't already, he's the OG Thresh Top player; 2. Dorans Shield is almost always a much better starting item than Corrupting Pot, the mana management comes with practice but it's not undoable and Dorans gives you a much easier early game. 3. Frostfire Gauntlet was nerfed for ranged users (bcs of frostfire Senna abusers) and it doesn't work well on Thresh; 4. In this build I would go Shieldbow, which provides the shield and utilizes well the Lethal Tempo. If you prefer a tanky option, Sunfire Aegis works very well on Thresh; 5. HappyChimes said at 7:17 that Thresh is not a split pusher, but his wave clear is good, honestly if you take TP instead of Ghost, there will be a lot of potential to split push and apply pressure on the map. A good alternative to not having Ghost is simply to buy Chemtank as Ghost has less value than TP for Thresh in the landing phase. 6. Titanic Hydra has incredible synergy with Thresh's autos, usually a very good 1st item even considering it has less value for ranged champions. Buying it as a second item is not bad either but because it is so expensive there are better 2nd item options 7. And lastly, Grasp of the Undying is a very good primary rune on Thresh Top, it's very easy for him to stack it vs melee toplaners, and I would say better than Lethal Tempo in most matchups. Either way, enjoy your Thresh Top games and may the Lord Cryo bless your souls' rng :)
@@cowfishblobfish This was back then when it was actually about fun and not trying to grind mastery points and missions Its depressing to play urf recently since its not about fun but finding thr most broken shit in the game and abusing the hell out of it.
@@cowfishblobfish especially the splitters…like its urs we all here to have fun and mess around then there’s that tryhard that splits while everyone is fighting with 3 items at 10 minutes
Tbf Ady is a legendary player but I don't know if this is a better strat than Cryo's, taking Grasp and Titanic. I haven't played Trash top with this build but with Cryo's it definitely felt good
Just did a Sylas support a while ago. It is actually fucking OP and so good no one expect a lvl 1 kill. HAHAHAHA THANK YOU SO MUCH happychimenoises for this new cheese pick! I can pop any squish champs 1 v1 hahaha
I used to stop enjoying the game till I started playing off meta thresh, He's just so fun to play off meta with, I did it ranked and got to diamond with all sorts of builds with a 60+% win rate. It's nice to see it being played at the highest level, gives me motivation for my climb to challenger with ad thresh.
Thresh top is great for one thing, wether you're good with it or not, it's getting an S. If you can't get an S with thresh to get a case or to level him up, playing him top is great because your score also depends on your farm, and when you have 200+ farm with thresh, you're almost guaranteed an S if you're not 0/10.
Check out lightrocket2, he's a taric jungle one-trick in challenger. Taric got buffed recently so it's an under the radar pick that has the potential to become mainstream if it catches on, I've heard some people predict it will show up in pro play. I've played it, and it's actually super strong, taric can duel anyone and he has super strong objective control.
I don't know man. Seems like Ady doesn't believe in it himself, else he wouldn't have played it only for 14 times. Must be a reason why Thresh is currently not even viable in off meta... Besides that, Adys winrate with thresh top is 42.9 % by the time writing this post. And we are talking about a chally player who knows his shit. Just my 2 cents.
I played it right now. After 8 minutes of game I'm fu**ing done with playing supports top and no more. Everything in video sounds good. Until you realize Your 4lvl melee jungler dashing into 6lvl illaoi :)
Can we stop seeing Korean players, honestly it’s not impressive anymore. Watching high elo streamers go to Korea and play just proved to us that they’re nothing special. They just have really good ping. If I played on 8 ping I’m sure I could climb just like them. And seeing thresh top isn’t anything new. Just my personal opinion.
Don't mind me, just a simple passerby planting a comment here to initiate a possible discussion on the other off-meta Thresh build. If you know, you know.
what i used to try sometimes was Thresh Top with Darkharvest and tank build ( before s13 items) , when all i could see top was vayne and kalista against fragile champs go max Q and lure them into your tower until you get armor , against tanks just farm
Yeah, Thresh is a decent matchup against some bruisers but it absolutely destroys fighters and assasins, Thresh mid is unable to lose lane against AD assasins and is good roaming and invading, if you build heartsteel there's few mages that can poke you out and if you got like 45 souls at 10 min you can easily kill them if you land a hook with lethal tempo.
This is a lie, buff was constantly actually causing my cpu to act up for unknown reasons. It was running at such a high rate and also the rewards are very selective based on region.
Addy is too particular to be copied like everything he does is weird its just like trying to copy thebausffs playstyle but this time ur champ doesnt have one of the biggest scaling in the game
I came to the conclusion that is not the champion and weird off meta builds the reason these people climb to masters, is just people so good that they can climb to masters with any off meta champ
my senses have tingled and said u will upload AD thresh video and then thought nah he must have uploaded one already or doesnt want to welp my senses where on point noice
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I went phel top and i got hit whit dis pick (draft) and i lost
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HOW A SUPPORT SKARNER CLIMBED TO CHALLENGER using hex-tec flash + double stun
- Skarner is the least played champion so no one knows how to play against it (source: leagueofgraphs)
- Skaner has multiple stuns
- Skarner is tankier than even Leona (surprised?)
- Skarner's strength is high damage (like cassio/viktor)
- Skarner's weakness is mobility (no dash) that is compensated as support champion with hex-tec flash and always in fog of war
- with teleport summoner all other enemies during early, mid and late game need to play extremely save or they get teleported on + R + burst
- Support Skarner presses the teleport button each minute and then cancels it with the B button
- Skarner is so unpopular that even in master elo, enemies don't know that skarner in late game can spam many stuns in high succession during each fight
- at the start at each game, he riles up his teammates to go for a cheesy lvl 1 gank with skarner as tank + burst (imagine, a freaking support is BURST, TANK all in one and once he's almost dead you get stunt again and the rest of your teammates finish it off)
Ah yes, it must be the legend Cryo-- nvm, it's another legend.
exactly my thought process haha
He could be here if He wasnt gold
Big sadage :/
Ye i was like
"Wait cryo is hardstuck silver isnt he? "
And well sadly right
Adi the best man
“His popularity slowly fading”
👀👀👀 do I spy another… whah noe wan pleys?!
First why Everyone Plays on dudes like Viktor and Ahri now that thy're back to being meta lol
Ah man, I was happy when the why everyone plays thresh video came out. I played thresh so much back then and even mained him for the better part of the last year but right now he feels a bit weak.
Very good southern accent
yes
i thought he was about to talk about Cryo
a god tier Thresh top player, but this is ok aswell
nice video as usual :)
Saaaaame
Ye sadly cryo is hardstuck silver/gold
@@ilyasdaydreamer ye true then not hardstuck, but stuck
I somethimes watch his videos and in some he says he is silver
@@THEJPIndustry i met him when i was through the promos on smurf and he was silver 2
cryo is silver. he isnt good. he doesnt even have good mental
Addy is crazy, he's got to be one of the best soloq players out there, imagine how well he'd do if he stopped trollpicking and became a boring meta golem, maybe even took flash.
Nah... Off meta picks give you a advantage still. There are so many solo que players who would destroy him, no matter what picks he goes with.
@@dijonjohn1011 ??? Off meta is off meta for a reason
@@losl5216
Lol yeah, because it is not something most people think about doing. It doesn't mean it is inherently bad though. A lot of meta picks, start off as off meta picks... Not to mention, people are less likely to know how to play against off meta picks, hence the advantage.
@@losl5216 yes but off meta isn't off meta because it's bad but because it needs some thinking instead of building the same build as every other champ in the same category there is a difference between off meta and trollpick take things like tank kog maw seems dumb but some time ago it was op or mathematicaly correct sett it was a dumb theorycraft that ended up being op... and we can go on and on most off meta pick aren't really good but the good ones often outperform the meta and become meta until they are nerfed into the ground
@@dijonjohn1011 but the thing is, imo, reaching challenger level with not new off meta picks multiple times, with some of them not even being good ones, makes him crazy. Also, I would imagine that in Challenger, playing the advantage of surprise isn’t anywhere near as high as lower elos
I have been a huge believer in thresh top for about 3 years now ever since I started watching Cryo. Seeing this video felt like a fever dream. The amount of flame and hate I have received for playing and endorsing Thresh top has been so massive. I literally deleted my reddit account after being harassed by hundreds of people for saying thresh top was viable. This feels like such a huge vindication. I can’t believe this is real.
You have described my experience with Thresh top
He put Thresh top in D tier and most matchups top you lose. Its not viable
Shit like this always happens, that's why I never bother explaining my actions to people. Let them figure it out for themselves later.
It's still not viable, the Challenger player even struggles to have this playstyle to gain a positive win rate.
@@louiegilalano7685 vs ap toplaners
"We've never seen anything like it"
Damn guys, I guess Cryo doesn't exist.
he is hardstuck silver for 4 seasons. why would he get any
@@EvrYRAp Rank doesn't really matter, he is a dedicated Thresh top main and inspired many players like me to try this fun pick
@@myujaa823 rank does matter
@@EvrYRAp rank doesnt matter man its a video game go touch some much needed grass
@@myujaa823 ady is kor chall with it its a bit of a difference
I was like: No way Cryo hit Challenger since i stopped playing
xD same
When you realise that a support toplane is more viable than Ryze
lmao where were you when Soraka/Smite Janna top was a thing?
EQ
@@Geheimnis-c2e That still proves my point,but they were more viable than every other toplaner that did not pick smite and weren't bard cosplayers
Ryze is a good support with spell book, everfrost/luden, cosmic, rylai, winterguard...mainly extending fight so your jungler arrives and stealing enemy golem/chickens
very based cryo shout out at the end
Call cryo
A few tips for people that just watched this video and want to try Thresh Top:
1. have a look at CryoBeat on Yt like Happy Chimes said at the end of the video if you haven't already, he's the OG Thresh Top player;
2. Dorans Shield is almost always a much better starting item than Corrupting Pot, the mana management comes with practice but it's not undoable and Dorans gives you a much easier early game.
3. Frostfire Gauntlet was nerfed for ranged users (bcs of frostfire Senna abusers) and it doesn't work well on Thresh;
4. In this build I would go Shieldbow, which provides the shield and utilizes well the Lethal Tempo. If you prefer a tanky option, Sunfire Aegis works very well on Thresh;
5. HappyChimes said at 7:17 that Thresh is not a split pusher, but his wave clear is good, honestly if you take TP instead of Ghost, there will be a lot of potential to split push and apply pressure on the map. A good alternative to not having Ghost is simply to buy Chemtank as Ghost has less value than TP for Thresh in the landing phase.
6. Titanic Hydra has incredible synergy with Thresh's autos, usually a very good 1st item even considering it has less value for ranged champions. Buying it as a second item is not bad either but because it is so expensive there are better 2nd item options
7. And lastly, Grasp of the Undying is a very good primary rune on Thresh Top, it's very easy for him to stack it vs melee toplaners, and I would say better than Lethal Tempo in most matchups.
Either way, enjoy your Thresh Top games and may the Lord Cryo bless your souls' rng :)
I didn't know Cryo was Korean
I love how everyone thought it was Cyro. A bit of a shame that it wasn't, but at least thresh top got more recognition
This makes me feel so nostalgic.
Remember when in URF everyone built lethality/ad thresh?
It was the funniest shit ever. 2tapping you with AA.
More like when urf games went longer than 15 mins instead of all try hard sweat gamers trying to end quick
@@cowfishblobfish
This was back then when it was actually about fun and not trying to grind mastery points and missions
Its depressing to play urf recently since its not about fun but finding thr most broken shit in the game and abusing the hell out of it.
@@cowfishblobfish especially the splitters…like its urs we all here to have fun and mess around then there’s that tryhard that splits while everyone is fighting with 3 items at 10 minutes
I still do that in aram lol
Its a little sad that you didnt interview Cryo who has had this playstyle as his main role for multiple years
I had high hopes in seeing cryo today 😢
Tbf Ady is a legendary player but I don't know if this is a better strat than Cryo's, taking Grasp and Titanic. I haven't played Trash top with this build but with Cryo's it definitely felt good
I didn't know Cryobeats is secretly a korean challenger, he never told us
OwO
Cryo is ADY o.o
Top thresh is my favourite off meta, support thresh just doesn't fulfill the fantasy presented by his lore, but top thresh does.
@@drmostafa2150 you are an insane person to interpret my comment that way
"High range champion"
Yes, of course, his range is the same as Urgot.
(I know we talk about toplane)
GigaChad Thresh
as a wildrift player, i forgot he looked like this, had to buy a skin just to play him I cant stand looking at his new default look lmao.
"this is a pick weve never seen before"
cryo: am i a joke to you
Wait I'm pretty sure I've already watched an exact video of this?? Did he perhaps remake the video???
I also instantly thought Cryo got to Chall 🙄
YAAAAAY YOU MENTIONED CRYO, THANK GOD
The Weakest Cryo Enjoyer vs The Strongest ADY Enjoyer
Hello how was ur day and if u want to know a top thresh main i mind suggest cryobeats only differance is he is iron.
7:50
HCN: ... you don't have to compare him to picks like Nautilus
Me: *Picks Nautilus top since the pre season"
build?
Remember when Nautilus was a jungler/toplaner by design? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Just did a Sylas support a while ago. It is actually fucking OP and so good no one expect a lvl 1 kill. HAHAHAHA THANK YOU SO MUCH happychimenoises for this new cheese pick! I can pop any squish champs 1 v1 hahaha
To everyone sayin cryo lets be honest he has never played a game above dia elo at best.
at least as far as i know
As a top laner.I prefer seeing off meta picks like this than seeing an adc being forced in top lane.
My man, I love you for mentioning Cryo, he was first person to convince me to play off-meta and I love his content.
pog giga chad thresh
Can you do Zac support next ?
Does anyone know if he has a twitch channel. I kind of what to watch him on stream
I used to stop enjoying the game till I started playing off meta thresh, He's just so fun to play off meta with, I did it ranked and got to diamond with all sorts of builds with a 60+% win rate. It's nice to see it being played at the highest level, gives me motivation for my climb to challenger with ad thresh.
I was like; “OMG CYROOOO- oh. “
Thresh top is great for one thing, wether you're good with it or not, it's getting an S.
If you can't get an S with thresh to get a case or to level him up, playing him top is great because your score also depends on your farm, and when you have 200+ farm with thresh, you're almost guaranteed an S if you're not 0/10.
"buys some ad": Wits End
I'm not sure we could call this AD thresh. I mean he builds maybe one AD item and it's not even his mythic.
Check out lightrocket2, he's a taric jungle one-trick in challenger. Taric got buffed recently so it's an under the radar pick that has the potential to become mainstream if it catches on, I've heard some people predict it will show up in pro play. I've played it, and it's actually super strong, taric can duel anyone and he has super strong objective control.
shameless content stealing huh
Thresh uses e
walks away without elaborating further
absolute chad
Cryo should watch this
This guy has like 2 or 3 videos about himself on ur channel. He truly is built different
Cryo would be proud
Doesn't work. Ppl who tried it went 0/10 or 0/20 every game
Can't wait for a video Why this Challenger plays League
Thresh op during my a-z we 1 shot him EZ
how a challenger alistar jungler goes challenger into plantinium in 1 second
'AD THRESH TOP'
-1 AD item XD.
'Attack Speed, Tank Thresh Top' is a more accurate title and tbh a more interesting video to click on.
I don't know man. Seems like Ady doesn't believe in it himself, else he wouldn't have played it only for 14 times. Must be a reason why Thresh is currently not even viable in off meta... Besides that, Adys winrate with thresh top is 42.9 % by the time writing this post. And we are talking about a chally player who knows his shit. Just my 2 cents.
I played it right now. After 8 minutes of game I'm fu**ing done with playing supports top and no more. Everything in video sounds good. Until you realize Your 4lvl melee jungler dashing into 6lvl illaoi :)
Can we stop seeing Korean players, honestly it’s not impressive anymore. Watching high elo streamers go to Korea and play just proved to us that they’re nothing special. They just have really good ping. If I played on 8 ping I’m sure I could climb just like them. And seeing thresh top isn’t anything new. Just my personal opinion.
LOOL, i got destroyed by thresh adc yedterdsy just onetricking
Played Thresh top with Botrk first item. Actually strong vs lots of champs. Destroys champs like Nasus early.
Don't mind me, just a simple passerby planting a comment here to initiate a possible discussion on the other off-meta Thresh build. If you know, you know.
what i used to try sometimes was Thresh Top with Darkharvest and tank build ( before s13 items) , when all i could see top was vayne and kalista
against fragile champs go max Q and lure them into your tower until you get armor , against tanks just farm
nothing worse than overwolf apps
they are absolutely horribly scripted 9/10 and eat ur RAM like its cheesecake.
So when exactly did this guy "discover Thresh top"? Because i got it off someone else like 9 years ago. Still super fun.
Ady is the biggest menace of korea. Vi, Swain, Galio and Shyv top are all crazy. :)
Yeah, Thresh is a decent matchup against some bruisers but it absolutely destroys fighters and assasins, Thresh mid is unable to lose lane against AD assasins and is good roaming and invading, if you build heartsteel there's few mages that can poke you out and if you got like 45 souls at 10 min you can easily kill them if you land a hook with lethal tempo.
This reminds me a lot of the full ad kraken thresh midlane that is played in urf
How to know if its legit in 3 words only:
AD KOREAN CHALLENGER
Nice to see ARAM builds from 4 years ago showing up in ranked..
ADY? i thought we were talking about Cryo
i feel like u should cover topics that LoL Dobby hasn't already. He covered this, said it was a troll pick aswell and moved on to ady's other mains.
I swear I've seen this video some days ago with the same footage and all from the channel LoL Dobby, just without voiced narration lmao
Oh yeah are you talking about Cr- ADY, of course, obviously i was about to mention him
Addy might unironically be the most intelligent league player on the planet. The picks are so dumb on the surface but somehow make so much sense.
I thought this is a video about Cryo. But instead, it's a Korean Challanger. Good video, though. Gotta make a note about this.
did this kid just say Shyvanna Top can't compare to Thresh top? He's either silver or intentionally lying to lil kids
Thoughts on my style?
Cho gath auto fill (can do every role depending on items) with tank thornmail thresh in the event of a counterpick
this guy is controlling league of legends community
This is a lie, buff was constantly actually causing my cpu to act up for unknown reasons. It was running at such a high rate and also the rewards are very selective based on region.
Wouldnt conq make mote sense for thresh top? Idk about how good is what rune i didnt play league for like 3 months
Addy is too particular to be copied like everything he does is weird its just like trying to copy thebausffs playstyle but this time ur champ doesnt have one of the biggest scaling in the game
I have been doing this for the last 2 months, I just do Guinsoo's rageblade, kraken slayer and bloodthirster and it's over if i hit a Q
Man, my wild rift matchup is filled with this now, and they're not even winning top. Big sadge
Guys even among weird strategies, it's a D tier. This is not the validation you're looking for.
Buff doesnt work prop and Kinder scamy but still rallye nice Video
Abyssal looks good aswell for AD Thresh E passive and R, as they deal magic damages no ?
Only this is a Cryo video is because Cryo doesn't care about league
Cryo is what all league players should strive to be
hundreds of free armor. youll be lucky if you get 100 armor lol out of the passive.
This gold player GiantsGurl has been playing thresh top for awhile now.
Coming here to drop my respects on the OG top thresh extraordinnaire, CryoBeat! Top tier content, go sub to him!
well
I've once have a team rammus malphite and thresh
facing 5 ap champ
all three tanks decide to build full ap nice
I stg, these players make such weird picks, and i cant even get out of silver with meta supports
the only thing i registered from your sponsor is domino's pizza, is that gonna be your next sponsor?
Yayyy another wild rifr champion~
I came to the conclusion that is not the champion and weird off meta builds the reason these people climb to masters, is just people so good that they can climb to masters with any off meta champ
Gunna be gone from ranked for a little bit, bc Chime posted a new video
I love how this is offmeta while on my server and Gold elo, this is just a piece of a cake.
There’s a mord adc main in Na who hit masters ! Lmk brotha if u want more info proof or resource in case u make a video about him ?
he is grandmaster not challenger and has 42% winratio on thresh and played him only 14 games
Ah, I'm ahead of the curve for a change. I'm not good at it, but still
wait u dont know CryoBeat the tresh toplaner who probably did it first?
my senses have tingled and said u will upload AD thresh video and then thought nah he must have uploaded one already or doesnt want to welp my senses where on point noice