If you have a S23 Ultra, no need to update to the S24 Ultra, just hold out because the 23 is still a beast and the AI features are coming with the next OS update. Amything less than the S23 Ultra, yes you will actually be upgrading. Of course unless you want to just splurge and have the latest and greatest, go for it.
I got in my hand the s24u and it feels much better than the s23u, i think its because of the flat screen, i like it much more and the so called washed colors for me are better.
@@zoukeane2196 If the $250 is not a big deal, go for the S24 Ultra. If it is a big deal, go for the S23 Ultra, since the next OS upgrade in March will bring the new AI features to the S23U.
Been waiting on this comparison 🔥 I think notifications aren’t working I have them turned on for when you upload. I’ve been impressed with SOT and total use.
The 3x telephoto on the S24 is basically useless. In anything other than perfect lighting, the main sensor will produce the same, or better, image quality from 3x-5x as the 3x lens. The reason the 3x was useful before was that once you get to about 6x the 3x starts to pull ahead, so between 6x-10x is when it was really useful, but now the 5x is obviously much better for that range. They should have left the focal lengths the same and just used the new sensor on the 3x. That would have made the lens very useful all the way up to the 10x with significantly better quality in suboptimal lighting to the S23. And then from 10x on it would have been the same, which, the S24 doesn't really seem to have any noticeable advantages over the S23 over 10x anyways except for in very bad lighting.
There is also a lot of software involved between the phones to help produce and clean up images, which I believe is what helps give the S24 Ultra a slight advantage, but that same software is coming to the S23 series shortly, which I believe the S23 Ultra's camera will match the S24 Ultra, and be better in zoomed in images in most lighting, or all. I don't know why they removed the 10x camera, they should have kept it, there was no reason to remove it except maybe to save some money. Most if not all the improvements on the S24 Ultra are software related, which I mentioned, that same software comes to the S23 Ultra and S23 series shortly, so we will see then if the S24 Ultra can still be better in some situations, or if the S23 Ultra will match the S24 Ultra in every situation, or be better because of the 10X zoom not having to digitally zoom in as much as the 5X on the S24 Ultra. All I can say is I bought my S23 Ultra recently, used like new, not a scratch on the screen, hardly used by the previous owner (somewhere around 2 months of light use) before it was traded in and sat in a box for several months before I got it. Saved $400 on buying a new one, and $700+ from an S24 Ultra, and from all the issues the S24 Ultra has, I am both really glad I never bought one even though I could get a colour I really want, but also feel for those who have one and hope they can be happy with it, I know I wouldn't be able to, but that is just me.
I think up to 10x it uses cropping on the main camera. Thats the advantage of such immense Megapixels. Its virtually lossless compared to regular digital zoom. And for most things 1.4 - 3 x is the sweet spot. I don't need insane amounts of zoom.
Did the grainy/sandy screen disappeared by itself after the latest update, or it's still there .. Really nervous to order the S24 Ultra and deal with the returns and all that ..
420 € with Ebay coupon and a few weeks of hunting, although 256 GB. My compromise because I won't pay 400+ for a S22 with display scratches and no warranty.
I'm with you on the keyboard. I've been using SwiftKey for years, now owned by microsoft. I tried using this Samsung keyboard for the added features that are included with this new s24 Galaxy. But I just couldn't get used to this Samsung keyboard and I prefer the Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard over the Samsung keyboard
It would probably be a decent upgrade but I would recommend waiting first a bit to see if Samsung acknowledges the hardware display issues on the S24 Ultra. If not definitely wait for the s25 ultra.
Thanks for watching! I unfortunately do not have an S22 Ultra anymore, but I would say s22 Ultra to the s24 ultra is only worth it if your battery life experience is really bad. I remember that was one of the weak points of the s22 ultra.
I have the s22u and don't really care about the new features on s24u. But I would like better performance. It'd be $550 to upgrade to s24u. Is there a way to sell my phone and get a good s23u for only a couple hundred?
You failed to talk about the custom CPU in the S23 Ultra. It is not a normal Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 CPU, It is specially customized for the S23 Series, or just the Ultra, not sure at the moment, but that is why you see "For Galaxy" in the name. It is specially tuned for the S23 Ultra to were it gives you much better performance then the stock CPU, and it does that without sacrificing battery life, but actually extends it, where the newer Gen 3 CPU is pretty much entirely stock, and I have seen the S23 Ultra last longer then the S24 Ultra. I don't doubt the Gen 3 is a bit faster, but the custom tuned Gen 2 For Galaxy is arguably just as good, if not slightly better in every day use. They also use the same battery, no upgrade in size, same size screen as well, but being dull and the fuzziness I heard is a hardware issue, where the dull screen may not be able to be fixed completely without forcing the screen to operate at 110%, which could harm the screen over time. The cameras are no different minus the worse setup on the S24, losing that 10X for no reason at all, as it is a feature a lot of people I know love, specially when taking really close up pictures of things. The only differences is software, with the S24 Series able to process images in some situations, better, but that software is coming to the S23 Series, as well as pretty much everything else software related, meaning at the moment, the S24 series phones are slightly better, until the update for the S23 series is released in a few days, or few weeks, and then there will be little to no difference at all, other then cosmetics, and some AI features built into the Gen 3 CPU that you will still have on the S23 series but be processed on the main CPU, being slightly slower while processing because of that, but with how good the Gen 2 For Galaxy CPU is, I don't think you would even notice. On top of that, those AI features are going to be blocked by a pay wall in 2025 anyways, so you really got to think, is spending $1950 CAD base price for a new S24 Ultra worth it for the features that are not going to stay unique to the phone as well as software, over $1600 CAD or lower for a new S23 Ultra, or $1300 or less for a used but like new S23 Ultra? The flat screen, and dull display with fuzziness that may be more hardware related, a CPU that is newer but doesn't perform any better and in a lot of cases I have seen uses more battery... Just isn't worth it unless you can't buy an S23 Ultra anywhere and you only can find S24 Ultra's. My S23 Ultra that I bought used but like new less then a month ago, so far the battery life is crazy good. I took it off the charger 16 hours ago from typing this. Currently after about 3 hours 55 minutes of screen on time, browsing facebook, taking pictures, texting friends, and watching some youtube videos, so basically not letting the adaptive refresh rate to really kick in, and using slightly less then half brightness which is plenty bright for this display in almost any situation, 78% battery remaining. My S10+ I had before this, would be under 50%, probably under 40% with the same usage. I will say I went in and enabled background limits, so no more then 2 background apps can operate at the same time, as well as going through all my apps and putting ones I hardly use into deep sleep status, and apps I do use but only here and there into normal sleep, and apps I use all the time never sleep. I also disabled RAM Plus, so it stops using part of your internal storage as virtual RAM, it is slower, and wears down the memory module a lot, and I recommend everyone doing those 3 things, 1 of which involves enabling developer mode to access those settings (background limits). I do not use battery saving mode, I refuse to go back to 60hz display, and I have done those methods minus disabling RAM Plus on my S10+ because you can't in One UI 4, only possible in One UI 5 and higher. You can do more battery saving stuff to your phone that wont effect the performance of the device other then possibly speed it up a little more as well as save more on battery, which I plan to do more of so I can max out the battery life on this phone, which is also healthy for the battery in the long run, without giving up things we, or at least I want, like a decent screen brightness, no performance limits, no 60hz cap, or anything that effects app functions. I have done all that on my S10+ and when I said how long it would have lasted so far, is with all that stuff done to it. Without that, easily would hit around 35% or lower, and sure, part of that is the battery itself, but taking that into account, still wouldn't be nearly as good. Simply put, this S23 Ultra which was bought used but like new, saved me $300 or so from a new S23 Ultra, and $700 from a new S24 Ultra, and I couldn't be happier. Not a single scratch on the screen, battery health is close to new as this phone was hardly used by the previous owner, it is also a Canadian model which matters on Canadian networks, I know because my S10+ is a US model, and only way to get updates was through manually putting updates on it through the PC using sketchy 3rd party apps as Smart Switch on PC was entirely unhelpful, and can easily brick a phone while it is in download mode during these updates, I know because I did brick the S10+, but by pure button spamming and nearly giving up, it somehow recovered and I don't know how. I consider myself a loyal Samsung mobile user, I will recommend anyone getting a new phone, to come grab a Samsung that best suits them, but I can not recommend the S24 series, unless the screen issue is fixed, then maybe, but still wouldn't with the S24 Ultra because the S23 Ultra is just way too similar, like when the S23 series gets the One UI 6.1 update, it will be at least 95% similar, and that is just not enough to justify getting the newer S24 Ultra, over a cheaper and new S23 Ultra, or even cheaper used like new S23 Ultra. Anyone is free to do what they want, buy what they want, but I personally will not recommend the S24 Ultra, period, it just isn't better then the S23 Ultra. That 5% just isn't worth spending $450-$700 more on, it really isn't, and I wish Samsung focused less on AI and more on hardware improvements... maybe next year, but even then I wont be giving up my S23 Ultra unless Solid State batteries enter the smartphone market, then maybe since those last so much longer, and don't wear out over time anywhere near as quickly as current batteries do, like lasting 10 times longer, so like a standard battery may get 4 or 5 years before showing its wear, a solid state would go 50 years before showing wear, they are crazy good, but still not yet left the testing phase, but they are close to, sometime in the next few years we could see them finally enter the market.
@@lchaveztort Except it isn't. Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 SM8650-AB (4nm) is the CPU the S24 Ultra uses. The only "For Galaxy" edition CPU Samsung has is in the S23 Ultra. The S23 Ultra only has one CPU option, where the S24 Ultra has 2, the Snap Gen 3 or Exynos 2400, there is no extra modifications made to the Snap gen 3 CPU, it is almost entirely a stock chipset put into the S24 Ultra with minor tweaks to work with Samsung's software and hardware. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 "For Galaxy" edition is the only CPU option for the S23 Ultra, and so it was heavily modified from the base Snap Gen 2 the previous S22 Ultra used, to get the phone better performance, and be more power efficient, which the S22 Ultra suffered greatly with power efficiency and performance. So when I say "For Galaxy", that is the version name given to the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 that is in the S23 Ultra, a special version made, or rather modified specifically for the S23 Ultra and other S23 phones only.
Its not "customized", its just overclocked. But I don't mind - The 3.36 GHz gives you better singlethread performance than most devices which leads in overall better app start. And yes all the Galaxys have the same flagship CPU, so if you don't care for the camera a normal S23 is enough. Keep in mind the Ultra is very huge and heavy. Smaller battery is offset by a smaller display - Battery life is the same. Opting for the newest mobile SOC is never worth it, its some percent faster but I think they didn't even improve the IPC or clock much, its not a drastically new architecture either. The only thing they do is make the GPU bigger. Only switch to new SOC if the performance and efficiency is drastic, meaning far over 100 %.
@@voyagerdeepspaceexploratio5023 The CPU on the S23 series is a customized CPU, it isn't just overclocked. You can put a normal Gen 2 in a phone and overclock it, it wont perform as well as the "For Galaxy" edition as it specifically fine tuned for the S23 series specifically, outputting more performance without sacrificing battery life, and improving the overall efficiency. It is so fine tuned that if you put it into a different phone, like the S22 series or S24 series, it would not perform well at all, vs the standard/stock configuration of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 CPU, overclocked or not. I don't recall there ever being a CPU that has had so much fine tuning, Samsung customization basically, that gives a CPU so much performance over the standard CPU, not even Apple with their iShit phones put that much work into their CPU pairings... The S24 series has a near bone stock Snapdragon Gen 3 CPU in it, which by itself is a faster CPU then a bone stock Gen 2, in just about every way, but the "For Galaxy" edition of the Gen 2 is so good it is basically as good, slightly better in some cases then the Gen 3 the S24 series has, minus GPU performance of course. I have seen side by side comparisons of the S23 Ultra and S24 Ultra with apps being loaded up, webpages being loaded up, games and such, the S23 Ultra almost every time loads faster, even if it is only by a split second, but in game performance it falls behind because of that GPU. Hell, even the camera on the S23 Ultra is basically the exact same as the S24 Ultra, despite the camera on the S24 Ultra being slightly better on paper, but the S23 Ultra just seems to take better quality pictures in the vast majority of cases, most noticeably when zooming in, which doesn't take much, like x1.5 and onwards the S23 Ultra produces slight better image quality, which sometimes is a massive difference, including when at X100 zoom which the S23 Ultra just does way better. Even today the differences between the S23 Ultra and S24 Ultra as so little, they are almost virtually the same phone, with a slightly different CPU, and a slightly modified chassis and glass. Worth the $500+ in price difference, just for anti-reflective glass, flat edges that make it look cheap unlike the perfect curve the S23 Ultra has (I had an S22 Ultra and that curve was too much) and extra AI features that you will have to pay for come 2025 to use which all the remaining free features the S23 Ultra has, even some of the future paid features that I don't see people really using? not to me it isn't, even if I really do love that Yellow Titanium colour, where my S23 Ultra is Graphite, which was an online exclusive colour which I bought used in like-new condition so I ended up spending nearly $700 less then I would have buying the similar spec S24 Ultra, and have a phone that is probably a little over 90% the same, just a year older with 2 years less support.
Same price yes, the S23 is overall just a S23+ like some minor refresh. And the S25 may be too unless they add a new sensor. Thats what you really want, the sensor upgrade from the S22 was huge unlike from the 23 to 24.
i bought the s23u the other day just because that grainy display turned me off about it really. That was a massive deal breaker for me since i mostly use my phone in my bed at night with low brightness, in dark mode... Oh and that is not a software issue, it is called MURA effect and most definitely a hardware issue caused by s24u's screen technology. If you have s24u, then you have it. Some people are lucky, and their panels MURA effect is just not that apparent. But you have it, just some of you lucky ones can't see it... Also s24u is 2100 usd in my country, whereas s23u is 1500 usd (insane taxes and all). 2100 bucks is a LOT of money to play screen lottery imo. I honestly feel like there is not enough difference btwn these devices to justify that extra 600 bucks. I watched every video out there and just couldn't see any reasonable difference at all. the option to NOT have AI features is also cool lol. i normally hate curved screens and never had a curved phone before but s23u is almost flat in that regard. And i found that swiping from right or left is much smoother in s23u's display. I for one is never going to use it without a case so accidental touches are not in the equation at all. if you use gel type screen protectors rather than tempered glass ones, than applying them is also not a big deal. And then there's that anti-glare coated screen. As %99 people out there who buys s24u are already going to use it with a screen protector, and when you do that, you are going to lose that antiglare coating, so that is not a deciding factor either... I don't know. I've spent that extra cash on Magsafe accessories, screen protectors and high quality cases instead. Don't regret it. I've been using the A71 for the past 5 years, so it will be a massive upgrade either way.
I'm in a dilemma. I need to buy a new phone and have narrowed it down to the s23u and s24u. On one hand, the s23u is currently at a discount price of $385 less than the s24u. On the other hand, the s24u is currently at full price but comes with free $105 credits to spend on any add-ons, which can get me a phone cover and the galaxy buds FE.
I'd go for the s23 ultra, if you really want the accessories you can buy the accessories separately and still have money left over. I'd only choose the s24 ultra, if you absolutely must have a flat screen, there are no s23 ultras available around you, or the price gap is much much smaller.
If you are happy with your S23, then be happy with it, AI upgrades are coming you're way. Just call it the S24 Ultra Special edition with a beveled screen - no one will know.
You are not wrong, because the 10x camera on the S23 Ultra is not digitally zoomed in unlike the S24's 5x, which has to digitally zoom in to 100X, and loses like 10% or more of the overall image quality, no matter how much the AI processing tries to clean it up, and uses the same sensors as on the S23 Ultra, so the camera overall is a downgrade on the S24 Ultra, and those slightly better images are software/AI tuned, something the S23 Ultra and the S23 series in general will be getting so the camera will produce the same quality images, at least on the main camera, better images on the S23 Ultra with the other cameras. S24 Ultra is just not worth getting over the S23 Ultra if you take everything into account, just spending $400 more on a phone that at best is only 5% different, not taking into account cosmetic changes like the flat screen and titanium sides. I am more then happy to own a used like-new S23 Ultra that you would think is new because the screen is 100% perfect, free of scratches, and battery health I would say is still around 95% or more as it was hardly used by the previous owner. Saved me $400 on buying one new, and $700 on an S24 Ultra. No brainer choice and one I can really smile about, and anyone else should as well.
@@AngryCanine feels like Samsung pulled a fast one with S24 ultra. Zoom camera is almost certainly a downgrade. Rest is all almost same. And price went up.
@@TH-camuseritis Yeah, after One UI 6.1 comes out for the S23 Ultra, the phones are going to be about 95% the same, the only differences being the CPU which sure is newer, but isn't tuned for Galaxy use like the S23 Ultra's "For Galaxy" version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, which gives it as good performance as the gen 3, but is more power efficient, not by a whole lot but a little is better then none or worse. Then there is the cosmetic differences, like the screen being flat and slightly less reflective and the phone itself being slightly more square and ever so slightly wider and shorter... also the screen problems which can't be totally fixed through software updates as it is partly a hardware issue. It just isn't worth spending nearly $2000 CAD on, when you can get an S23 Ultra for $1200 in like new condition, or $1500 brand new. All the software is going to come to the S23 Ultra, so not even that is going to be any different. Samsung, as much as I love them, really screwed up trying to focus more on AI then actual hardware improvements to the phone which is what we want in a new phone, not just software and differently shaped hardware and a new CPU that isn't any better then last gen.
WTF , S24U is a downgrade!! the ugly cheap flat screen looks like 10 yrs ago screen display and the less vibrant dull color sucks!! i went to check on samsung shop just to find out this ugly phone, S23U is way better !! the curved screen is so elegant and best ever ..the contrast and vibrant colors are the best, dont buy S24U it is downgrade save your money!!
They are talking about the S23 Ultra phone that was released in 2023 and whether it is worth buying in 2024, while they also talk about the S24 Ultra phone released in 2024 that will last until 2030. What nonsense is this?!
@@dwights1024 yeah I don't have it. I cancelled my pre order and decided to keep my s23u after hearing about all the problems. The s24u is more of a downgrade from the s23u
If you have a S23 Ultra, no need to update to the S24 Ultra, just hold out because the 23 is still a beast and the AI features are coming with the next OS update. Amything less than the S23 Ultra, yes you will actually be upgrading. Of course unless you want to just splurge and have the latest and greatest, go for it.
I got in my hand the s24u and it feels much better than the s23u, i think its because of the flat screen, i like it much more and the so called washed colors for me are better.
@@rosenivanov7028 I'm probably one of the very few who enjoy the curved screen over the flat screen. Enjoy your new tech/device !
@rosenivanov7028 See, I'm one of the few that actually like the curved screen, so sticking point for me lol...
If i do not have any good phones. Shld i go for s24 ultra? Or buy s23 ultra? Is about 250 dollars difference in my region
@@zoukeane2196 If the $250 is not a big deal, go for the S24 Ultra. If it is a big deal, go for the S23 Ultra, since the next OS upgrade in March will bring the new AI features to the S23U.
I upgraded to the S24 Ultra from my 2017 *NOTE 8* and it's CRAZY the improvements!!!!
Great patience from you. I think people should change a minimum of every two years if you can afford to do so.
2017, no wonder, its like a new dimension of a phone.
I dont regret it, because i am giving my sister my s23 ultra, its a big upgrade for her, i am giving it too her today.
You're a good sister.
Watching this on Samsung galaxy s9
S10 here. 😂
You I thought I was the only one I have exactly the same phone and it's working really good but I want it a great
not much of an upgrade feature wise, but the design and the screen of s24u is amazing! its day and night difference if you compare it side by side
Been waiting on this comparison 🔥 I think notifications aren’t working I have them turned on for when you upload. I’ve been impressed with SOT and total use.
Appreciate you man! Same here, battery life is very good on the s24 ultra, the S23 ultra isn't too far behind either tho.
The 3x telephoto on the S24 is basically useless. In anything other than perfect lighting, the main sensor will produce the same, or better, image quality from 3x-5x as the 3x lens. The reason the 3x was useful before was that once you get to about 6x the 3x starts to pull ahead, so between 6x-10x is when it was really useful, but now the 5x is obviously much better for that range.
They should have left the focal lengths the same and just used the new sensor on the 3x. That would have made the lens very useful all the way up to the 10x with significantly better quality in suboptimal lighting to the S23. And then from 10x on it would have been the same, which, the S24 doesn't really seem to have any noticeable advantages over the S23 over 10x anyways except for in very bad lighting.
There is also a lot of software involved between the phones to help produce and clean up images, which I believe is what helps give the S24 Ultra a slight advantage, but that same software is coming to the S23 series shortly, which I believe the S23 Ultra's camera will match the S24 Ultra, and be better in zoomed in images in most lighting, or all. I don't know why they removed the 10x camera, they should have kept it, there was no reason to remove it except maybe to save some money. Most if not all the improvements on the S24 Ultra are software related, which I mentioned, that same software comes to the S23 Ultra and S23 series shortly, so we will see then if the S24 Ultra can still be better in some situations, or if the S23 Ultra will match the S24 Ultra in every situation, or be better because of the 10X zoom not having to digitally zoom in as much as the 5X on the S24 Ultra. All I can say is I bought my S23 Ultra recently, used like new, not a scratch on the screen, hardly used by the previous owner (somewhere around 2 months of light use) before it was traded in and sat in a box for several months before I got it. Saved $400 on buying a new one, and $700+ from an S24 Ultra, and from all the issues the S24 Ultra has, I am both really glad I never bought one even though I could get a colour I really want, but also feel for those who have one and hope they can be happy with it, I know I wouldn't be able to, but that is just me.
@@AngryCanine I actually just bought a pixel 7 pro. I got it used for $280 in great condition. I will never again buy a brand new phone.
I just hope they won't do software downgrading on purpose to the s23 ultra so the s24 will pull ahead because of that@@AngryCanine
I think up to 10x it uses cropping on the main camera. Thats the advantage of such immense Megapixels. Its virtually lossless compared to regular digital zoom. And for most things 1.4 - 3 x is the sweet spot. I don't need insane amounts of zoom.
Did the grainy/sandy screen disappeared by itself after the latest update, or it's still there .. Really nervous to order the S24 Ultra and deal with the returns and all that ..
S23 ultra at $680 without AI features! SOLD! 👍
Don't s23 ultra have AI features now?
420 € with Ebay coupon and a few weeks of hunting, although 256 GB. My compromise because I won't pay 400+ for a S22 with display scratches and no warranty.
How many years of software updates is s23 ultra eligible 4 ?
4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security updates since release. So until 2027/2028.
The black rails (sides of the phone) on the S24 Ultra killed the whole look!
I actually like it personally, makes it stand out but I also would say having it all one color would look nicer for sure.
😅how the S24 ultra or 23 holds up when going live on social media (Instagram, Tik,...etc)?
They should have implemented the satellite connectivity S 24 U
Thank you for clearing up some information about s23 abd s23. 😊🇨🇦
I'm with you on the keyboard. I've been using SwiftKey for years, now owned by microsoft. I tried using this Samsung keyboard for the added features that are included with this new s24 Galaxy. But I just couldn't get used to this Samsung keyboard and I prefer the Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard over the Samsung keyboard
I'm watching this on my s24 ultra🎉
Should I upgrade since I have s22 ultra to s24 ultra question or Waite for s25 ultra
It would probably be a decent upgrade but I would recommend waiting first a bit to see if Samsung acknowledges the hardware display issues on the S24 Ultra. If not definitely wait for the s25 ultra.
@@TacoTechTalk I wait for s25 ultra than I'm hereing bad news about the screen on s24 ultra
Idk if you have the S22U but if so would you consider making content on s22 versus s24? Thank you i appreciate your content.
Thanks for watching! I unfortunately do not have an S22 Ultra anymore, but I would say s22 Ultra to the s24 ultra is only worth it if your battery life experience is really bad. I remember that was one of the weak points of the s22 ultra.
Id say no bro. I had s22+ switched to s24u, but the changes are subtle only thing I've noticed is better battery life. Nothing else has a wow factor.
Thank you for this video, man
I have the s22u and don't really care about the new features on s24u. But I would like better performance. It'd be $550 to upgrade to s24u. Is there a way to sell my phone and get a good s23u for only a couple hundred?
I would look into Best Buy, buying a refurbished and trading in. Or swappa, or selling via fb marketplace.
Colours do look way vibrant on 23 even u can see how vibrant in pics
Grainyness is holding me back from upgrading from s22 ultra
I don't blame ya, we shouldn't be okay with any kind of hardware defects. Vote with your wallet.
we need a full zoomed in video test this only shows from 1 to 10 need to show when using full zoom thats where the s23 ultra seems to win
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Get a refurbished s23 ultra if you can. Talk about beast mode and I’m on light profile. 😅
Do a comparison with s20u
I have the S20+ and I love its camera, but when I go live on some social programs the battery drains so fast.
You failed to talk about the custom CPU in the S23 Ultra. It is not a normal Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 CPU, It is specially customized for the S23 Series, or just the Ultra, not sure at the moment, but that is why you see "For Galaxy" in the name. It is specially tuned for the S23 Ultra to were it gives you much better performance then the stock CPU, and it does that without sacrificing battery life, but actually extends it, where the newer Gen 3 CPU is pretty much entirely stock, and I have seen the S23 Ultra last longer then the S24 Ultra. I don't doubt the Gen 3 is a bit faster, but the custom tuned Gen 2 For Galaxy is arguably just as good, if not slightly better in every day use. They also use the same battery, no upgrade in size, same size screen as well, but being dull and the fuzziness I heard is a hardware issue, where the dull screen may not be able to be fixed completely without forcing the screen to operate at 110%, which could harm the screen over time.
The cameras are no different minus the worse setup on the S24, losing that 10X for no reason at all, as it is a feature a lot of people I know love, specially when taking really close up pictures of things. The only differences is software, with the S24 Series able to process images in some situations, better, but that software is coming to the S23 Series, as well as pretty much everything else software related, meaning at the moment, the S24 series phones are slightly better, until the update for the S23 series is released in a few days, or few weeks, and then there will be little to no difference at all, other then cosmetics, and some AI features built into the Gen 3 CPU that you will still have on the S23 series but be processed on the main CPU, being slightly slower while processing because of that, but with how good the Gen 2 For Galaxy CPU is, I don't think you would even notice. On top of that, those AI features are going to be blocked by a pay wall in 2025 anyways, so you really got to think, is spending $1950 CAD base price for a new S24 Ultra worth it for the features that are not going to stay unique to the phone as well as software, over $1600 CAD or lower for a new S23 Ultra, or $1300 or less for a used but like new S23 Ultra? The flat screen, and dull display with fuzziness that may be more hardware related, a CPU that is newer but doesn't perform any better and in a lot of cases I have seen uses more battery... Just isn't worth it unless you can't buy an S23 Ultra anywhere and you only can find S24 Ultra's.
My S23 Ultra that I bought used but like new less then a month ago, so far the battery life is crazy good. I took it off the charger 16 hours ago from typing this. Currently after about 3 hours 55 minutes of screen on time, browsing facebook, taking pictures, texting friends, and watching some youtube videos, so basically not letting the adaptive refresh rate to really kick in, and using slightly less then half brightness which is plenty bright for this display in almost any situation, 78% battery remaining. My S10+ I had before this, would be under 50%, probably under 40% with the same usage. I will say I went in and enabled background limits, so no more then 2 background apps can operate at the same time, as well as going through all my apps and putting ones I hardly use into deep sleep status, and apps I do use but only here and there into normal sleep, and apps I use all the time never sleep. I also disabled RAM Plus, so it stops using part of your internal storage as virtual RAM, it is slower, and wears down the memory module a lot, and I recommend everyone doing those 3 things, 1 of which involves enabling developer mode to access those settings (background limits). I do not use battery saving mode, I refuse to go back to 60hz display, and I have done those methods minus disabling RAM Plus on my S10+ because you can't in One UI 4, only possible in One UI 5 and higher. You can do more battery saving stuff to your phone that wont effect the performance of the device other then possibly speed it up a little more as well as save more on battery, which I plan to do more of so I can max out the battery life on this phone, which is also healthy for the battery in the long run, without giving up things we, or at least I want, like a decent screen brightness, no performance limits, no 60hz cap, or anything that effects app functions. I have done all that on my S10+ and when I said how long it would have lasted so far, is with all that stuff done to it. Without that, easily would hit around 35% or lower, and sure, part of that is the battery itself, but taking that into account, still wouldn't be nearly as good.
Simply put, this S23 Ultra which was bought used but like new, saved me $300 or so from a new S23 Ultra, and $700 from a new S24 Ultra, and I couldn't be happier. Not a single scratch on the screen, battery health is close to new as this phone was hardly used by the previous owner, it is also a Canadian model which matters on Canadian networks, I know because my S10+ is a US model, and only way to get updates was through manually putting updates on it through the PC using sketchy 3rd party apps as Smart Switch on PC was entirely unhelpful, and can easily brick a phone while it is in download mode during these updates, I know because I did brick the S10+, but by pure button spamming and nearly giving up, it somehow recovered and I don't know how. I consider myself a loyal Samsung mobile user, I will recommend anyone getting a new phone, to come grab a Samsung that best suits them, but I can not recommend the S24 series, unless the screen issue is fixed, then maybe, but still wouldn't with the S24 Ultra because the S23 Ultra is just way too similar, like when the S23 series gets the One UI 6.1 update, it will be at least 95% similar, and that is just not enough to justify getting the newer S24 Ultra, over a cheaper and new S23 Ultra, or even cheaper used like new S23 Ultra. Anyone is free to do what they want, buy what they want, but I personally will not recommend the S24 Ultra, period, it just isn't better then the S23 Ultra. That 5% just isn't worth spending $450-$700 more on, it really isn't, and I wish Samsung focused less on AI and more on hardware improvements... maybe next year, but even then I wont be giving up my S23 Ultra unless Solid State batteries enter the smartphone market, then maybe since those last so much longer, and don't wear out over time anywhere near as quickly as current batteries do, like lasting 10 times longer, so like a standard battery may get 4 or 5 years before showing its wear, a solid state would go 50 years before showing wear, they are crazy good, but still not yet left the testing phase, but they are close to, sometime in the next few years we could see them finally enter the market.
You're not entirely correct, this is For Galaxy as well, seems like you're hurting.
@@lchaveztort Except it isn't. Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 SM8650-AB (4nm) is the CPU the S24 Ultra uses. The only "For Galaxy" edition CPU Samsung has is in the S23 Ultra. The S23 Ultra only has one CPU option, where the S24 Ultra has 2, the Snap Gen 3 or Exynos 2400, there is no extra modifications made to the Snap gen 3 CPU, it is almost entirely a stock chipset put into the S24 Ultra with minor tweaks to work with Samsung's software and hardware. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 "For Galaxy" edition is the only CPU option for the S23 Ultra, and so it was heavily modified from the base Snap Gen 2 the previous S22 Ultra used, to get the phone better performance, and be more power efficient, which the S22 Ultra suffered greatly with power efficiency and performance.
So when I say "For Galaxy", that is the version name given to the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 that is in the S23 Ultra, a special version made, or rather modified specifically for the S23 Ultra and other S23 phones only.
Its not "customized", its just overclocked. But I don't mind - The 3.36 GHz gives you better singlethread performance than most devices which leads in overall better app start. And yes all the Galaxys have the same flagship CPU, so if you don't care for the camera a normal S23 is enough. Keep in mind the Ultra is very huge and heavy. Smaller battery is offset by a smaller display - Battery life is the same.
Opting for the newest mobile SOC is never worth it, its some percent faster but I think they didn't even improve the IPC or clock much, its not a drastically new architecture either. The only thing they do is make the GPU bigger. Only switch to new SOC if the performance and efficiency is drastic, meaning far over 100 %.
@@voyagerdeepspaceexploratio5023 The CPU on the S23 series is a customized CPU, it isn't just overclocked. You can put a normal Gen 2 in a phone and overclock it, it wont perform as well as the "For Galaxy" edition as it specifically fine tuned for the S23 series specifically, outputting more performance without sacrificing battery life, and improving the overall efficiency. It is so fine tuned that if you put it into a different phone, like the S22 series or S24 series, it would not perform well at all, vs the standard/stock configuration of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 CPU, overclocked or not. I don't recall there ever being a CPU that has had so much fine tuning, Samsung customization basically, that gives a CPU so much performance over the standard CPU, not even Apple with their iShit phones put that much work into their CPU pairings...
The S24 series has a near bone stock Snapdragon Gen 3 CPU in it, which by itself is a faster CPU then a bone stock Gen 2, in just about every way, but the "For Galaxy" edition of the Gen 2 is so good it is basically as good, slightly better in some cases then the Gen 3 the S24 series has, minus GPU performance of course. I have seen side by side comparisons of the S23 Ultra and S24 Ultra with apps being loaded up, webpages being loaded up, games and such, the S23 Ultra almost every time loads faster, even if it is only by a split second, but in game performance it falls behind because of that GPU. Hell, even the camera on the S23 Ultra is basically the exact same as the S24 Ultra, despite the camera on the S24 Ultra being slightly better on paper, but the S23 Ultra just seems to take better quality pictures in the vast majority of cases, most noticeably when zooming in, which doesn't take much, like x1.5 and onwards the S23 Ultra produces slight better image quality, which sometimes is a massive difference, including when at X100 zoom which the S23 Ultra just does way better.
Even today the differences between the S23 Ultra and S24 Ultra as so little, they are almost virtually the same phone, with a slightly different CPU, and a slightly modified chassis and glass. Worth the $500+ in price difference, just for anti-reflective glass, flat edges that make it look cheap unlike the perfect curve the S23 Ultra has (I had an S22 Ultra and that curve was too much) and extra AI features that you will have to pay for come 2025 to use which all the remaining free features the S23 Ultra has, even some of the future paid features that I don't see people really using? not to me it isn't, even if I really do love that Yellow Titanium colour, where my S23 Ultra is Graphite, which was an online exclusive colour which I bought used in like-new condition so I ended up spending nearly $700 less then I would have buying the similar spec S24 Ultra, and have a phone that is probably a little over 90% the same, just a year older with 2 years less support.
If you can get the 24 same price as a the 23...its a no brainer. If you already have the S23, then no need imo
Same price yes, the S23 is overall just a S23+ like some minor refresh. And the S25 may be too unless they add a new sensor. Thats what you really want, the sensor upgrade from the S22 was huge unlike from the 23 to 24.
AI really should not matter either unless you are willing to pay for it in a couple of months not going to be free forever
i bought the s23u the other day just because that grainy display turned me off about it really. That was a massive deal breaker for me since i mostly use my phone in my bed at night with low brightness, in dark mode... Oh and that is not a software issue, it is called MURA effect and most definitely a hardware issue caused by s24u's screen technology. If you have s24u, then you have it. Some people are lucky, and their panels MURA effect is just not that apparent. But you have it, just some of you lucky ones can't see it...
Also s24u is 2100 usd in my country, whereas s23u is 1500 usd (insane taxes and all). 2100 bucks is a LOT of money to play screen lottery imo.
I honestly feel like there is not enough difference btwn these devices to justify that extra 600 bucks. I watched every video out there and just couldn't see any reasonable difference at all. the option to NOT have AI features is also cool lol. i normally hate curved screens and never had a curved phone before but s23u is almost flat in that regard. And i found that swiping from right or left is much smoother in s23u's display. I for one is never going to use it without a case so accidental touches are not in the equation at all. if you use gel type screen protectors rather than tempered glass ones, than applying them is also not a big deal. And then there's that anti-glare coated screen. As %99 people out there who buys s24u are already going to use it with a screen protector, and when you do that, you are going to lose that antiglare coating, so that is not a deciding factor either... I don't know.
I've spent that extra cash on Magsafe accessories, screen protectors and high quality cases instead. Don't regret it. I've been using the A71 for the past 5 years, so it will be a massive upgrade either way.
Bro oooo.. We share similar upgrade stories. Used an a71 for about 4years before acquiring my S23 ultra.. 😊
@@adebolaanimashaun2558 treat yourself my friend :) you've earned it lol :)
Well done review!
Since you are not using samsung apps and most of the features, I think Pixel phone is suitable for you.
Indeed 100% Agreed, the AI features I use the most on the S24 Ultra, are on the Pixel 8 so I'd be fine with the pixel 8.
After AI update s23 ultra is the best value for money android of all time
I'm in a dilemma. I need to buy a new phone and have narrowed it down to the s23u and s24u.
On one hand, the s23u is currently at a discount price of $385 less than the s24u.
On the other hand, the s24u is currently at full price but comes with free $105 credits to spend on any add-ons, which can get me a phone cover and the galaxy buds FE.
I'd go for the s23 ultra, if you really want the accessories you can buy the accessories separately and still have money left over. I'd only choose the s24 ultra, if you absolutely must have a flat screen, there are no s23 ultras available around you, or the price gap is much much smaller.
@@TacoTechTalkso if I wish to get m first Samsung flagship I shouldn't get s24 ultra?
If it's in the budget then yes the S24 Ultra is a phenomenal first flagship
If you are happy with your S23, then be happy with it, AI upgrades are coming you're way.
Just call it the S24 Ultra Special edition with a beveled screen - no one will know.
The S23 Ultra gets brighter indoors than the S24 Ultra. 3:25
Its so bright I use like 5 % all the time.
100x significantly lower quality than s23 ultra I think.
You are not wrong, because the 10x camera on the S23 Ultra is not digitally zoomed in unlike the S24's 5x, which has to digitally zoom in to 100X, and loses like 10% or more of the overall image quality, no matter how much the AI processing tries to clean it up, and uses the same sensors as on the S23 Ultra, so the camera overall is a downgrade on the S24 Ultra, and those slightly better images are software/AI tuned, something the S23 Ultra and the S23 series in general will be getting so the camera will produce the same quality images, at least on the main camera, better images on the S23 Ultra with the other cameras. S24 Ultra is just not worth getting over the S23 Ultra if you take everything into account, just spending $400 more on a phone that at best is only 5% different, not taking into account cosmetic changes like the flat screen and titanium sides. I am more then happy to own a used like-new S23 Ultra that you would think is new because the screen is 100% perfect, free of scratches, and battery health I would say is still around 95% or more as it was hardly used by the previous owner. Saved me $400 on buying one new, and $700 on an S24 Ultra. No brainer choice and one I can really smile about, and anyone else should as well.
@@AngryCanine feels like Samsung pulled a fast one with S24 ultra. Zoom camera is almost certainly a downgrade. Rest is all almost same. And price went up.
@@TH-camuseritis Yeah, after One UI 6.1 comes out for the S23 Ultra, the phones are going to be about 95% the same, the only differences being the CPU which sure is newer, but isn't tuned for Galaxy use like the S23 Ultra's "For Galaxy" version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, which gives it as good performance as the gen 3, but is more power efficient, not by a whole lot but a little is better then none or worse. Then there is the cosmetic differences, like the screen being flat and slightly less reflective and the phone itself being slightly more square and ever so slightly wider and shorter... also the screen problems which can't be totally fixed through software updates as it is partly a hardware issue. It just isn't worth spending nearly $2000 CAD on, when you can get an S23 Ultra for $1200 in like new condition, or $1500 brand new. All the software is going to come to the S23 Ultra, so not even that is going to be any different. Samsung, as much as I love them, really screwed up trying to focus more on AI then actual hardware improvements to the phone which is what we want in a new phone, not just software and differently shaped hardware and a new CPU that isn't any better then last gen.
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Mate I've been looking 27 for like 5 years. But nah I'm not 17
WTF , S24U is a downgrade!! the ugly cheap flat screen looks like 10 yrs ago screen display and the less vibrant dull color sucks!! i went to check on samsung shop just to find out this ugly phone, S23U is way better !! the curved screen is so elegant and best ever ..the contrast and vibrant colors are the best, dont buy S24U it is downgrade save your money!!
Seriously your opinion is shit and misleading
They are talking about the S23 Ultra phone that was released in 2023 and whether it is worth buying in 2024, while they also talk about the S24 Ultra phone released in 2024 that will last until 2030. What nonsense is this?!
Buy the S23u. S24u has too much problems from the start
I bet you don’t got the s24u that’s why u sayin this stop lying
@@dwights1024 yeah I don't have it. I cancelled my pre order and decided to keep my s23u after hearing about all the problems. The s24u is more of a downgrade from the s23u
@@JG-oj9jzmention somd of the problems of what you have heard. Thanks
@@dwights1024Vibrant display on s23 looks better than s24
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