New mechanics: For a Common Foul: Extend a clenched fist at 45-90 degree angle. For a Technical Foul: Hold basketball between either elbow and your body, so as to partially obscure the technical foul sign. Also be sure NOT to walk over to the scorer’s table. It is always good to leave them guessing. This typically results in both teams becoming even more disgruntled, thereby presenting more opportunities to blow your whistle. This ensures the official to always have a full middle school schedule. I also like the alternate free throw mechanics. When WHITE is shooting, the Trail is opposite the table and the Lead is table side. When BLACK is shooting, the Lead is opposite the table and the Trail is table side. It’s very confusing to everyone. Again, always keep them guessing. Lastly, the hands on the hip and then standing in bounds on the court, thereby making the player run around you during a live ball. This helps preserve your energy in case the zombie apocalypse occurs anytime during or after the game. Always be prepared.
I mean these guys probably aren't trying to be good officials.. 🤷 I also don't think you mentioned that the trail should always stand at the division line. If you get too close to the players calling violations and fouls will just get too easy
I have officiated basketball up until two years ago. So tell me if something changed in the last two years. Isn't the original fouled player supposed to shoot two for the shooting foul, prior to any player on the court (#11 in this case) shooting the two technical free throws?
Zachary Ellwood you are correct... they let #11 shoot all 4 free throws and #30 should have shot the first two... bad officiating in that regard not getting the right shooter to the line.
leonard wright incorrect. College is the order in which it happened. NFHS goes in reverse order. Common foul FTs will proceed any dead ball technical foul issued. Order: Technical FTs first (anyone on the floor and can even split) then the shooting foul which should have been #30 for 2 with the lane cleared. Ball to white at the Division Line per the Technical Foul penalty on black. The officials just rushed it and didn’t come together to communicate what they had, order of sequence and who the proper shooter should have been with an understanding of resumption point of inbound. Point of emphasis for us is to slow down and communicate with our partners. Rushing leads to errors such as this. Not horribly bad here and by far not some of the most egregious stuff I’ve seen on TH-cam.
Yes, two shots for #30 for the common foul and then two for #11 shooting the technical foul. Correctable error (permitting the wrong player to attempt the free throws). The error must be corrected by the next dead ball after the clock has properly started.
I know it's a bit odd, but one thing I was VERY surprised at is the cheerleaders allowed to be on the baseline during game play. As a former referee I would simply not have allowed that.
@@michaelfalkner1186 Then the referee should have received better training. This is a safety issue. Look at the size difference between number 00 and those cheerleader athletes. If he is running full speed looking back for the ball and misjudges his place on the court and runs full speed into one of those girls they WILL be injured the only question is how severely. No one is allowed to 'set up camp' on the baseline with a live ball. That is the equivalent of letting them line-up along the outside of the dug-out with a live batter. Not a matter of IF one of them gets badly injured... just when.
@@danielstith5227 I don't think that's an individual referee situation -- that's more a conference or state issue. I get what you are saying, I really do. I just recall that, when I was in school, that's where they were -- and with as much room (if not less) than here.
What are you talking about? Cheerleaders have always set up under the goal same as the girls in this video... And I came from a really big high school (7A). Where else are they supposed to be?
That's got to be the widest size and age range between players I've ever seen. Some of them look like high school upper classmen while others look like 6th graders.
Wow, some nice cheating going on. Wrong player is allowed to shoot the free throws and then the clock doesn't start for almost 5 seconds, when there is only 7.8 seconds left in the game
@Richard Andis He took of 2 seconds, when he should have taken off 4 or 5. But he did do something. Anyways, in middle school games like this, it's usually not a ref doing the scoreboard. It's usually one of the home teams parents, or a friend of the home team's association. And those type of people are much more likely to cheat in a situation like this
Homer was running the scoreboard it seems . That clock start was blatant should have been on first touch. There is an exception after scored baskets the clock shouldn't start until the ball reaches the midline in the last 59 seconds of the game. But when inbounding the official signaled for the shortly after first touch (late in my opinion) for the clock to start (the far official did) the near official may have been screening the time keeper or he got confused when they immediately both put there hands up to signal the three point attempt.
2 Man is always tuff spot to be in. This is why as Officials should get together especially on dead on ball technicals. Send the teams to the benches and work through the plays. Rather than cherry picking go get Certified by your state and be a part of action.
That clock should have started as soon as the ball was touched in the field of play, and there was no way #11 should have shot all the free throws.....#30 should have shot his 2 for the foul, then anybody on the white team for the tech. But then at 2:48, where's the T for the coach coming out on the floor after the foul call? And at the very end, why wasn't the last foul 2 shots? Giving the guy dribbling a two-handed shove to the back is as blatant a deliberate foul as there is. This was either some horrible incompetence by these refs, or some very blatant home cooking.
Did 13 get the T for shit talking because I didn't see him do anything after the original foul.... Not sure why 30 did shoot the second set of free throws?
Well they kick this one, they let the wrong shooter for the free throws. 30 white was originally fouled on the shot, yet he did not shoot any free throws.
@@hlspraying7614 I agree. I came back to youth officiating after an 8 year lay off, and even though I'm bigger than I was then. I made it a point to hustle and get into position. If you're going to officiate you should do your best regardless of the level. I didn't like the officials who worked higher levels of ball, come into a place and act like their better than everyone else. It makes the rest of us look bad. I worked as high as some D3/JUCO ball at my highest point.
SFoy1100 good for you. Yes some officials think there better than others and if you watch them they are bad officials. There lazy they do not get into the right positions to make calls. Only reason they get the top games is because there on the board or assigned to schedule games. The good ol boys syndrome. That gets old. But good job on your officiating great story.
@@hlspraying7614 100% about the politics. Sometimes youth ball is the worst because the coaches and parents are the least experienced. None know what 3 seconds is, none know about rebounding/displacement fouls, and have little clue about carrying etc.
Just a comment. Any player can be selected to shoot a technical foul, unlike a personal foul. It's the choice of the coach. So you always select your best shooter. Apparently it's number 11, lol!
the official underneath called a foul ...#30 was suppose to shoot the first 2 free throws first..which he would have missed....lol!!.... than the coach could choose who would shoot the tech and than take the ball out at the center line. Refs gave the team a damn near 4 point swing lol
@@theofficialbucksquad3923 I really hope you not a real referee. Because if that's what you think the rule is you need to go back and read the rulebook. LOL
MReynolds101 yea one time in one of my games a on 4th quarter with 15 seconds left we were down by one and I was going to save a ball out of bounce and I hit it and it bounced off the coach and I could’ve hit it then it was a turn over
Im watching this on my phone and have no clue whats going on..
Youth basketball game, ages 7 to 21.
New mechanics:
For a Common Foul: Extend a clenched fist at 45-90 degree angle.
For a Technical Foul: Hold basketball between either elbow and your body, so as to partially obscure the technical foul sign. Also be sure NOT to walk over to the scorer’s table. It is always good to leave them guessing. This typically results in both teams becoming even more disgruntled, thereby presenting more opportunities to blow your whistle. This ensures the official to always have a full middle school schedule.
I also like the alternate free throw mechanics. When WHITE is shooting, the Trail is opposite the table and the Lead is table side.
When BLACK is shooting, the Lead is opposite the table and the Trail is table side.
It’s very confusing to everyone. Again, always keep them guessing.
Lastly, the hands on the hip and then standing in bounds on the court, thereby making the player run around you during a live ball. This helps preserve your energy in case the zombie apocalypse occurs anytime during or after the game.
Always be prepared.
I mean these guys probably aren't trying to be good officials.. 🤷
I also don't think you mentioned that the trail should always stand at the division line. If you get too close to the players calling violations and fouls will just get too easy
Lol
This HAS to be junior high. Look at the size differences! I remember it well....
I was thinking elementary school.
I have officiated basketball up until two years ago. So tell me if something changed in the last two years. Isn't the original fouled player supposed to shoot two for the shooting foul, prior to any player on the court (#11 in this case) shooting the two technical free throws?
Zachary Ellwood you are correct... they let #11 shoot all 4 free throws and #30 should have shot the first two... bad officiating in that regard not getting the right shooter to the line.
you are correct. Fouls are adminstered in the order that they happen. 30# should shoot 2 shots then number 11#
Correctable Error
leonard wright incorrect. College is the order in which it happened. NFHS goes in reverse order. Common foul FTs will proceed any dead ball technical foul issued. Order: Technical FTs first (anyone on the floor and can even split) then the shooting foul which should have been #30 for 2 with the lane cleared. Ball to white at the Division Line per the Technical Foul penalty on black. The officials just rushed it and didn’t come together to communicate what they had, order of sequence and who the proper shooter should have been with an understanding of resumption point of inbound.
Point of emphasis for us is to slow down and communicate with our partners. Rushing leads to errors such as this. Not horribly bad here and by far not some of the most egregious stuff I’ve seen on TH-cam.
Yes, two shots for #30 for the common foul and then two for #11 shooting the technical foul. Correctable error (permitting the wrong player to attempt the free throws). The error must be corrected by the next dead ball after the clock has properly started.
I know it's a bit odd, but one thing I was VERY surprised at is the cheerleaders allowed to be on the baseline during game play. As a former referee I would simply not have allowed that.
Used to happen all the time in smaller schools.
@@michaelfalkner1186 Then the referee should have received better training. This is a safety issue. Look at the size difference between number 00 and those cheerleader athletes. If he is running full speed looking back for the ball and misjudges his place on the court and runs full speed into one of those girls they WILL be injured the only question is how severely. No one is allowed to 'set up camp' on the baseline with a live ball. That is the equivalent of letting them line-up along the outside of the dug-out with a live batter. Not a matter of IF one of them gets badly injured... just when.
@@danielstith5227 I don't think that's an individual referee situation -- that's more a conference or state issue. I get what you are saying, I really do. I just recall that, when I was in school, that's where they were -- and with as much room (if not less) than here.
REF: In bsktbl, there is no baseline! It's called an ENDLINE!..
What are you talking about? Cheerleaders have always set up under the goal same as the girls in this video... And I came from a really big high school (7A). Where else are they supposed to be?
The legendary Colton cleaver
But the 2 handed shove in the back of #2 at the end wasn't a Technical?
Where is the rest of the technical foulS? I just see one lol
That's got to be the widest size and age range between players I've ever seen. Some of them look like high school upper classmen while others look like 6th graders.
Lol. "You've got to keep your mouth shut!"
That a T?
Wow, some nice cheating going on. Wrong player is allowed to shoot the free throws and then the clock doesn't start for almost 5 seconds, when there is only 7.8 seconds left in the game
@Richard Andis He took of 2 seconds, when he should have taken off 4 or 5. But he did do something. Anyways, in middle school games like this, it's usually not a ref doing the scoreboard. It's usually one of the home teams parents, or a friend of the home team's association. And those type of people are much more likely to cheat in a situation like this
Homer was running the scoreboard it seems . That clock start was blatant should have been on first touch. There is an exception after scored baskets the clock shouldn't start until the ball reaches the midline in the last 59 seconds of the game. But when inbounding the official signaled for the shortly after first touch (late in my opinion) for the clock to start (the far official did) the near official may have been screening the time keeper or he got confused when they immediately both put there hands up to signal the three point attempt.
2 Man is always tuff spot to be in. This is why as Officials should get together especially on dead on
ball technicals. Send the teams to the benches and work through the plays. Rather than cherry picking go get Certified by your state and be a part of action.
That clock should have started as soon as the ball was touched in the field of play, and there was no way #11 should have shot all the free throws.....#30 should have shot his 2 for the foul, then anybody on the white team for the tech. But then at 2:48, where's the T for the coach coming out on the floor after the foul call? And at the very end, why wasn't the last foul 2 shots? Giving the guy dribbling a two-handed shove to the back is as blatant a deliberate foul as there is.
This was either some horrible incompetence by these refs, or some very blatant home cooking.
Not only that, the T was never communicated to the scorers.
#11 coach son chucker, can see it anywhere
Did 13 get the T for shit talking because I didn't see him do anything after the original foul.... Not sure why 30 did shoot the second set of free throws?
The ref's screwed this one up. #30 should have shot the two free throws first and then shoot the technical fouls.
Boy both teams had a good combination of players short kids tall kids fluffy kids skinny kids that was great. What was the technical
TK: Black, 13, said neg?, to ref! Lady, by filmer, told 13 to "keep your mouth shut!"
How old are these kids? The size difference between some of them is killing me lol
Well they kick this one, they let the wrong shooter for the free throws. 30 white was originally fouled on the shot, yet he did not shoot any free throws.
11 gotta learn to pass
Classic Sulphur Springs.
Number 11 on white definitely the coaches son or at least thinks he’s the star player
I mean bro he hit 2 free throws, he has bad iq but maybe he was the best option 😂 edit: nvm he sucks and watches tooo much curry highlights
Concur.
This game is on the kid who kept shooting the 3 pointers just drive it to the whole
I guess the Refs in that league are not allowed to run.
it's jr's.....and it's a LOONG season...save the legs for JV/Varsity games.
Jordan Truppner you should be in shape and want to run. A long season and save your legs for jv/varsity games. Wow what a bullshit statement.
@@hlspraying7614 I agree. I came back to youth officiating after an 8 year lay off, and even though I'm bigger than I was then. I made it a point to hustle and get into position. If you're going to officiate you should do your best regardless of the level. I didn't like the officials who worked higher levels of ball, come into a place and act like their better than everyone else. It makes the rest of us look bad. I worked as high as some D3/JUCO ball at my highest point.
SFoy1100 good for you. Yes some officials think there better than others and if you watch them they are bad officials. There lazy they do not get into the right positions to make calls. Only reason they get the top games is because there on the board or assigned to schedule games. The good ol boys syndrome. That gets old. But good job on your officiating great story.
@@hlspraying7614 100% about the politics. Sometimes youth ball is the worst because the coaches and parents are the least experienced. None know what 3 seconds is, none know about rebounding/displacement fouls, and have little clue about carrying etc.
Kevin Williams
Why do some of the players look 17 and others look 8 tho
There is no way these are high schoolers
Just a comment. Any player can be selected to shoot a technical foul, unlike a personal foul. It's the choice of the coach. So you always select your best shooter. Apparently it's number 11, lol!
Personal fouls too.....if player is injured!!!!!!
Depends who was fouled RC
the official underneath called a foul ...#30 was suppose to shoot the first 2 free throws first..which he would have missed....lol!!.... than the coach could choose who would shoot the tech and than take the ball out at the center line. Refs gave the team a damn near 4 point swing lol
Ok
I guess nobody noticed that after the technical foul, they let the wrong kid shoot the FT's. LOL. #30 is who got fouled. #11 shot all four shots!
@@theofficialbucksquad3923 I really hope you not a real referee. Because if that's what you think the rule is you need to go back and read the rulebook. LOL
@@japa9958 bro i swear someone was on my account. Ik the rules. I actually am playing d1 ball next year.
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Typical grade school game... Scorekeeper forgot to start clock.
13 didn’t foul the shooter…. A clean block.
Couches need to stay off the basketball court, it should be a technical foul on the coach for stay on the court.
MReynolds101 yea one time in one of my games a on 4th quarter with 15 seconds left we were down by one and I was going to save a ball out of bounce and I hit it and it bounced off the coach and I could’ve hit it then it was a turn over
Couches? How about a loveseat
I agree, couches have no place on a basketball court.
these refs mechanics SUCK! Cant even report a foul correctly!
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