@@MichaelIllust He says this because sometimes Viego has very random bugs, like when randomly one patch he could stake a thousand spinning stars from the old ASol just because yes... or when he detransformed from a specific champion that made him able to spam E without coldown and resulted in a potentially epileptic visual effect xD
and just like that riot now has to make a gold vers of every new champ lmao, and if mel gets a legendary that recolors the projectiles they also have to recolor everything
The briar ult one seems more liability than good thing. Since briar can 'trick' it by ulting from fountain and have her fling herself right into the fountain.
Same thing with amumu q instead of making amumu come to her by getting hit by q she reflects it and comes to him instead this seems like a silly interaction against some champions
I noticed that at 17:55, Urgot's ultimate is reflected and the reactivation symbol appears on Mel's ultimate. After the effect of Urgot's ult ends, Mel's ultimate goes on cooldown without her using it.
her ult can only be cast after reflecting the ability since she needs to apply a stack of passive, but the spell going on cooldown when urgot's timer ends rather than the overwhelm icon ending is weird
If you look above urgots head you can see the icon is blinking RED , that means her R will execute them because the stack threshold reached execute level . Same with minions , if they glow red your next attack on them will execute them . But it going on CD is weird so that is most likely a bug from urgots ultimate
@@rogreemaster1150 Yea but they mean that while everyone's reaction was just raise the number on the passive and brighting it up, urgot's one got the glowing square timer thing and then went on cd, so maybe...?
@@Joaquynn Ah true, I overlooked that thank you. So it's like if Urgot's timer is indeed applied, tho I'm guessing it's ONLY the timer itself and pressing R while the it's still going activates her ult rather than Urgot's, but who knows!
That quote from Jurassic Park hold so strong, it's funny but at the same time scary. Might I also add, riot's designers don't even think in terms of gameplay. Their creativity is equal to chris chan's. XD
@@NicholasHEADSHOTI will forever love him as a designer. Extremely creative and definitely caused some issues, but pushed the mechanics further than any other dev of that time. Him being on the MMO will bring GREAT things.
@@NicholasHEADSHOT I wish he never got a job at riot at all. His imagination is like South Park- The Fractured But Whole type of thing where "my power is I have all powers!" I have no respect for that guy whatsoever and to whoever trying to copycat him.
15:10 if you look closely smolder’s mom doesn’t turn around, her shadow keeps going in the same direction. From that we can deduce that Mel reflecting the ability actually summons ambessa to create the fire going back in smolder’s direction
this can still be countered by one of blitzcranks tanky allies stand in front of him though so they would be the one getting grabbed by the reflected projectile
Special thanks to Murray, Shao, Shad0wWarr10r and ZoochCrock for doing all the tests with me! Absolute heroess. Testing this took over 3 hours and editing took me around 11~ hours (yes, I barely slept). I hope I tested most of the things you wanted to see - sorry if I missed anything!
i think Mel's reflection is calculating the distance of Vayne's E on Mel + the distance of Mel's reflected E on Vayne, doing double the knockback. this gotta be fixed...
Great video, I like it! I do have a few questions about some of the interactions though. Would you consider exploring some of these in a future video please? Thanks! 1. Does Briar W get reflected? 2. What happens when Mel tries to reflect Irelia E's initial cast? 3. Does unenpowered Jayce Q get empowered if it's reflected version goes through Jayce E? 4. Can Thresh W be used my Mels teammates? 5. Can Mel stack Tristana E? Does it have a Cooldown reset? 6. Does the Vayne E bug push her toward Mels base, or just (0,0)? Does it maybe scale with the distance to base/(0,0)? 7. Does Braum passive stun work after you reflect Q? Thanks for reading! :)
I find it hilarious that she turns Smolder’s mom against him, “hey, aren’t you tired of bailing him” “you’re right… get over here little man, we need to talk” like a true diplomat
@@Justanothermusicnerdxo but apparently Mel is allowed chuck Qs at you from across the map and press R to execute you from half hp while being able to deflect most things. Interesting.
@@RK-qi4tv but apparently sivir can deal 1k damage per crit while doing tons of aoe damage to the entire enemy team while buffing her entire teams movespeed and a basically undodgeable poke skillshot. oh, on top of that she has a spellshield 😅😊 take your bronze opinions elsewhere. her reflect is not that crazy
I hope she just hits you with the blade, so you get slowed, but still get the q of, probably not empowered tho. Maybe she just keeps the blade and makes it golden though, would be kinda funny
My uneducated guess is its doing 3 things: giving her invincibility, copying Yasuo windwall to delete projectiles, and then using Sylas/Viego code to fire completely new projectiles.
@@parakeeta786 I think Yasuo W works by not deleting the projectile, but teleporting it somewhere off the map. Also has something to do with minions, because everything in the game is basically some form of a minion with different coding and model.
@@mrZocker11 arurf is the horrible one, takes the bad part of aram (unfortunate matchups) and makes it 100x worse. You almost always know who has lost the game when you see the teams. What they need to do is what they did during the first urf and have rotating disabled champs along side the player bans.
@@pvshka She doesn't gain the champions passive, the attack is reflected, not duplicated, it should be veigar that gain the permanent ap because it's still his Q.
I have many questions! 1. If Sylas uses ult to apply Anivia's chill effect to Anivia, will her reflected E deal double damage? 2. If Sylas does the same to light Brand on fire, will his reflected Q stun himself? 3. If Ezreal has a reflected W on him, will Mel's autos/abilities proc it? (The video only shows a reflected Q proccing it, I want to know if Mel's stuff can) 4. If Mel catches a reflected Gnar boomerang or picks up a reflected rock, does she get the corresponding Q cooldown partial resets? 5. Does it still reflect Galio and Gragas Qs if they finish moving before you use it? 6. If Mel reflect's Heimer's turret shots, does it target the turret or Heimer? 7. Does a Viego-Irelia benefit from the Unstable debuff of a reflected Irelia ultimate? 8. Can an ally Sylas ult to Kai'sa after her W is reflected? 9. If casting E ends reflected Briar ult early, does the same apply for pressing Q to travel to the Lee Sin mark? 10. If Lillia's E is reflected, can an ally Sylas use Lillia ult off of that? 11. If Lulu Qs with Pix on someone else, does the reflected Q go towards Pix, Pix's current host, or Lulu? 12. Do Mel's autos proc Lux passive after reflecting one of her abilities? In the video, it looks like she has the passive mark on her. If not, would a Viego-Lux be able to proc them? 13. Same as the Lee Sin question earlier, can Mel press E to blink to a reflected Lissandra E? 14. Can an ally Viego-Quinn benefit from Quinn's passive being applied from reflected Q? 15. Similar to the Lee Sin and Lissandra questions, can Mel cast Q to redirect Renata's Q after it lands? 16. Same question again, can Mel press E to pull Swain after reflecting his E? Same question, Thresh Q? 17. Do Mel's autos empower the Tristana bomb after reflecting it? 18. I think you missed Twitch E, I'm pretty sure that's blockable by windwall. If that was missed, does it base the damage on how many stacks Mel has, or how many Twitch has? 19. Do Mel's abilities proc the Varus passive? It looks like there was a recast indicator when you reflected the first part of Urgot R, try pressing it there to get the result from the cinematic. (The indicator doesn't show up for other recastable ultimates like Vex R) 20. Does reflected Blue Card restore Mel's mana? 21. Do Mel's autos proc the Vex passive after reflected E? 22. After a reflected Braum Q, do teammates' autos continue stacking the passive?
just wanted to add that mel+sylas combo will be such a good counter pick vs kaisa. if he ever wants a gank just walk up and steal R, then come back later where mel baits kaisa AA, reflects it to apply passive and sylas can now ult in xD
please vandiril check interactions with viego and with when there are the mirror ally on your own team to see if your new projectile will interact with their abilities/passives like above asked, it would be interesting to see. like for example a regular jayce Q going through allied jayce portal or even enemy one? does morg R get reflected? also, if mel intercepts a point and click projectile targetted someone else, who will the new target be? for example AAs, veigar R etc. and, do distance travelled scaling abilities like ashe jinx R etc seem to calculate their scaling based on their travel time from original source? or rather does the calculation reset when they become your projectile?
1. Does Ezreal Q reset cooldowns? 2. Does Gnar Q reset Q cooldown? 3. Does GP Q give extra gold if it kills, and do you get his special coins? 4. Does Smolder Q proc the execute when his Q has enough stacks? 5. Does Thresh Q reset 3 seconds off of Q? 6. Can allies take Threshs lantern? 7. Can auto attacks stack the Tristana E? 8. What about Zyra plants, Heimer turrets and Shaco boxes?
Hypothesis: 1. Ezreal cd reset is on Q itself, so it might work 2. Gnar Q resets Gnar Q, probably not 3. GP gold/coin generation is on his passive, probably will not work 4. Execute is on Smolder passive, probably no 5. Assuming the same as Gnar, Thresh Q only resets Thresh Q 6. It's on the ability itself, probably yes 7. Yes 8. The projectile attacks? I assume it will return to the pets and not the caster, interesting to see though
passive give a fix movement speed for attacks and abilities, w can ricochet to the whole team, targets behind tanks, e blocks abilities, r gives movement speed for entire team, duration resets upon kills
Why does the reflected Pyke E stun her? 1:17 She stole Akshan's passive! 2:20 Brand's passive Caitlyn's E doesn't give her a headshot 3:50 It tried to predict where Ezreal was going, like how Senna's Q works 4:30 What about his cooldown refund? 7:25 Kai'Sa's passive and ult indicator etc edit: did not steal Senna's passive 17:55 it put her R on cooldown!
She even has custom indicator for Kai'sa's passive. Some engineers and product owners worked overtime for that Edit: oh wait nvm that is from that Kai'sa skin, mb
She doesn't steal passives, if the champion's passive procs through abilities, she gains the effects of it, but not all effects. It's caitlyin's passive, it gives Caitlyin a headshot. Ezreal's E is a targeted skill. Gnar didn't grab the boomerang. That's Senna's passive, same as Cait. Probably a bug.
but Brand doesn't have an empower skill, it stacks with his passive? did it count the moment she got hit and carry the effect back to Brand? otherwise it's buggy af.
@@sapk3532 yes brands passive makes it so whatever his skills hit will apply the passive, it just that normally it doesn't target himself and his allies
higher cooldown + deactivates after the first deflected ability, and its balanced imo, still busted in lane but needs good timing to thrive in teamfights, like a stronger but less often sivir e
I mean, it's not like it makes any difference, it's the last skill she maximizes, and at that point she already has enough mana to the point that if the skill costed like 100, it wouldn't matter
Doesn't seem too bad really. Judging from how it interacts with like briar ult, it looks like shes just negating the projectile and casting it again. I cant tell if skillshot abilities get point-and-click auto tracking, but in either case it would either be reversing the vector of the projectile or just casting it with point-and-click tracking turned on
But there was an option to "recast" urgot ult when she reflected r1 onto him. Obviously, he didn't show if we could or not, but I'm pretty sure that is what the trailer showed
@@TheQxtm If you look at previous times where something has been reflected, the ult lights up, but doesnt have that timer like the ult does when the urgot ult is reflected. It also puts mel's ult on CD weirdly enough.
@@kylekresse8667super weird that it put Mel’s ult on CD. You’d think they would have ironed out the bugs on an ability interaction shown in the trailer.
The briar one makes the least sense but holy shit is it funny. What I'm getting at is it isn't reflecting the projectile, it's destroying it then recasting a new instance with Mel as the owner.
Yeah... It seemed like Urgot's R recast tried to substitute her R, and you can see this by the yellow thing around the skill... So maybe the Urgot being pulled by his ult in the cinematic is intentional, it's just bugged? Weird how it put HER ult on cooldown though.
A few things to add (Leona especially): Akali Q (works as expected) Brand E (If targeted nearby ally, the jump to you can be reflected. If targeted on Mel with an ally nearby, it reflects the jump to that ally) Draven R (blocking it AFTER it hits Mel, will make it instantly return to Mel and end it. The next Draven R does no damage) Graves Q (After his Q does the first portion and before it lands to do the comeback part, Mel can reflect it to make it hers and do the second part retargeted towards Graves) Katarina Q (Lands a dagger, which can be stepped on by Mel. She spins and does the damage of it. Doesn't effect E CD) Katarina R (Reflects as expected, does more damage if allies stand behind her) Leona E! (Depending on timing, both can get rooted, or Mel will jump to Leona. ALSO: Mel can cast Q when reflecting, either slightly before or after, and she will dash to her Q, NOT Leona) Pyke E (standing on his start cast location stuns you both. Also, reflecting E will chase him until it hits him, even after teleporting around in practice tool) Urgot Q (Can be reflected before hitting the ground) Urgot R (Note: As shown, doesnt work as trailer showed. Sets Mel's R cd to max)
I mean it will only negate Mel from sleeping her Allies won’t be covered, and the only one Mel sleeps is lillia herself. So in a scenario where Lillia applied passive to all 5 of Mel’s Allies and Mel reflects, it would turn into a 4v1 ( Lillia would be asleep and Mel’s team except her would be asleep)
@@jasonescobar1828 - Depends. If Mel stays in front of her team, she can reflect all, or most, projectiles from her R. Just like Yasuo can delete all of them. Her shield acts like a barrier, she can stop things that normally wouldn't be stopped to convert them into her ability - doesn't matter if aimed at her or not.
17:58 after reflecting Urgot ult although it didnt use the second part of his ult, it did highlight Mel's ult not just lighting it up for her passive but with a timed box around the border. Maybe she still needs to recast to get the execute? otherwise not sure why they'd show it in the champion showcase video lol
Either: they missed a part in the code that lets you recast the skill or it auto casts it OR: they changed their minds about recastable abilities that force their way in to the Mel's kit to prevent more bugs
17:57 pretty sure you had to press R for the urgot ult, you can see the timer on it, and after the timer her own ult went on cd for like 90+ seconds, so im pretty sure thats a bug, her normal ult cd is like under 80 seconds from what i remember, so that was definitely urgots ult lmao
But Urgot ult should also activate by itself at the end of the timer, if the target is low enough. As that didn't happen, I think pressing R would just have cast her ult instead but not the reel in of the Urgot ult. But I think that interaction is definitely bugged, as the reel in will take Braum an execute him if he blocks it, yet here it didn't do anything.
@lubue5795 her normal ult doesnt have a timer around it when its active, so it probably would've activated urgot ult imo?, also yea, it could activate her ult instead, but definitely bugged
im almost sure that removing the cdr of spells in pratice toll is making some interactions not work as intended. Mel can (as of her teaser) recast urgots R. If that is the case, maybe it would be nice to test again sylas R@Vandiril
she's literally a counter for almost every skillshot/mages champs (I said ALMOST not all) (Omg i just realized she can counter teemo the satan pretty well because if they tries to blind you they're blinded)
I can't imagine how Rito will balance this for pro play. Imagined the best players in the world being able to turn almost any ability or ult back on the other team.
they gave her a weak early game thats how dev keeps all champs from proplay, they said in pro the early game is everything thats why we dont see that much scaling champs in pro and when we do they have 100 supports to well support them
I honestly don't think it will be that bad. After all, it's not "almost every ability" as there are a ton of champs and kits that don't have a single projectile. And many projectiles she doesn't want to reflect like Nautiuls Q or AmumuQ. So this spell is a hard counter for certain spells, but entirely useless against others. So, she will only be meta if other meta Champs have strong projectiles that are worth bouncing back. And we also don't see a lot of Braum in play, despite him too countering projectiles. Not to forget that she's a midlaner and there are many other things she has to do to be playable.
They will definitely switch the W for her R like with tahm kench but obviously they will make the champ overtuned for no reason except to buy the skins
Been playing league since 2017, and nah, I don't think it's unbalanced. Dota 2 has this ability on AM (with insane 3s cd and shareable with shard upgrade). There's also an item that does the same thing, but doesn't block, only reflect, with reflect duration of 6s. Both are honestly super situational uses. In pro play, they just auto that reflecting motherfucker down. You can reflect spells but you can't do jack shit against getting hit.
Little addition on how recasts seem to work: If the recast is a straight-up different spell (say anivia Q2, ziggs W2, akali E2, urgot R2), Mel won't be able to use it whatsoever, because she doesn't obtain the new recast spell. So, all recasts - or at least all of those i can think of right now - cannot be used by Mel. In the case of Urgot R specifically, i'm guessing it cannot pull because the execute part of the spell is reserved to the recast (R2), and doesn't exist in R1! And since R2 isn't given to Mel, she can't execute. On the other hand, spells that require another "spell position" to be used, like Briar R that requires Briar to use her E to cancel the berserk, *do* work, as in Mel simply needs to use E to get out of briar's R effect. (it works the same if Sylas steals Briar R, so it also seems to be consistent). Meanwhile, i wonder if Nautilus Q and Thresh Q, when reflected by Mel, refunds a part of Mel's Q if it hits? Are there other projectiles in the game that can give a spell refund, or has an interaction with a spell "slot" specifically that Mel could utilise? Edit: They changed urgot's R interaction! Now you know why it didn't work in the first place, at least.
This is my biggest question tbh. Really seems like it should be a bit too much for the reflected abilities to track enemy location. It should just be reflected in the same direction it was originally cast. There does seem to be some indication in this video that there is some tracking happening.
Vast majority of abilities are not a projectile. Take WW, Aurelion, Wukong, Garen, etc. all those champs have no proiectile in their kit whatsoever. And there are many projectiles that are simply not worth reflecting like Brand Q, Ornn Q, etc. as she can't do anything with them afterwards and her W has around 35 -22 seconds CD. Throwing it out willy nilly will just get you punished.
She counters skillshot AOE CC ults like Renata and Seraphine extremely hard. On the other hand, the best counterpicks against her are the champs that get their main skillshot value even when they are reflected. Amumu Q, Briar Ult make her jump into them. Nautilus Q only changes who took the damage.
@@Janders797- Not only them - I'd say champions with recast skills are very strong against her. Lux with E and Gragas with Q can just poke her and force her shield out - and she won't hit them if she reflects because she can't pop the explosion.
1:15 Did she get Ashkan's passive as well ??? She got a shield, how did she get a bloody shield otherwise ?? She literally steals the entire champion's kit.
@@zephloe both of these and probably others were it reflects more then just the spell has got to be unintended right? also saw it used brand passive. abit unfair that it uses more then it says it does. and Sylas ULT doesn't do this.
@@FlameBlueNova Sylas Ult is weird, someties it steals "more" and sometimes it doesn´t, it is very inconsistent as far as I know. Sylas gains the AA apply plasma part from Kai´Sa for example and I think jax empowered AA as well, so it really seems kind of random if Sylas gains "another passive" as well
@schokokeks149 well jaxs empowerd aa is in his ult and kaisa well he couldn’t ever use it if he didn't get part of her passive. Pretty sure it only works with cc tho and doesn't give extra dmg
Riot has JUST fixed Mel W vs Urgot R interaction! You can see it here:
th-cam.com/video/PG1pWfd7mf0/w-d-xo.html
that video propably took long time to make ty
What about Xayah? How does she work with feathers or her R?
Do you know how it works with sett's w ?
bro has content for the whole year with only one champion
Think of all the bugs it'll have. Vandril gonna sit comfy with this one.
Mel feed this guy family for a year
that Pyke E is sus af
*one ability of one champion xD
not one champion 1 ability even
I love how she turns all projectiles into prestige versions of them
She sacrifices 30% of the damage to make it pretty
And for free! 😆
so they can, in fact, change particles to match the skin for chromas. They just don't want to do it
@@snwdy5303 with enough AP not, you can even deal more then 100% of the dmg
@@Rigele100 late game mel reflecting that Veigar R for 120% damage, crazy
We need a video of Viego using Mel's W to see where the spaghetti goes
Oh nooo 🤣
plllllllssss uppp
Will be same interaction
@@MichaelIllust Oh but I'm really sure there'll be at least 1 or 2 item bug or champion interaction bug from Viego's passive
@@MichaelIllust He says this because sometimes Viego has very random bugs, like when randomly one patch he could stake a thousand spinning stars from the old ASol just because yes... or when he detransformed from a specific champion that made him able to spam E without coldown and resulted in a potentially epileptic visual effect xD
The most impressive part about this is Mel deflecting the projectile's to match her gold colour.
Они просто цветовой фильтр использовали, обесцвечивание + желтое тонирование
@@timsone95 для хомячков это магия
and just like that riot now has to make a gold vers of every new champ lmao, and if mel gets a legendary that recolors the projectiles they also have to recolor everything
It's just a gold filter i guess
@@MattTheHuman9 wow gold filter! How impressive!
Can she reflect taxes from the IRS
True
yeah she taxes the IRS with her W
I love you Polypuff, notice me please.
What is irs
Impossible
I can already see my dumbass self accidentally reflecting Briar's ult and yeeting myself across the map
happened to me three times on PBE :(
And taunting yourself as well
Bonus points if enemy Briar is under her fountain. Taunting yourself under enemy fountain is big brain move.
just imagine if you couldn't use her E to cleanse it, forever 4v5 and you're stuck in the match as a spectator
Briar Ult.
then Briar goes TP to Base.
Mel button Mashing trying to do something, 😂😂
Top Comedy
The way she flings herself when hit by briar ult, amumu q and such looks hilarious
It's the first question I had when I saw the ability was "Will it make her go goblin mode?"
The briar ult one seems more liability than good thing. Since briar can 'trick' it by ulting from fountain and have her fling herself right into the fountain.
Same thing with amumu q instead of making amumu come to her by getting hit by q she reflects it and comes to him instead this seems like a silly interaction against some champions
Some of these champs are good bait for Mel W while others are just plain dead against it
@@yasinulun7397 it makes sense, she eliminates enemy projectile and makes her own. so amumu lost his Q but Mel gains the full ability
I noticed that at 17:55, Urgot's ultimate is reflected and the reactivation symbol appears on Mel's ultimate. After the effect of Urgot's ult ends, Mel's ultimate goes on cooldown without her using it.
this
her ult can only be cast after reflecting the ability since she needs to apply a stack of passive, but the spell going on cooldown when urgot's timer ends rather than the overwhelm icon ending is weird
If you look above urgots head you can see the icon is blinking RED , that means her R will execute them because the stack threshold reached execute level . Same with minions , if they glow red your next attack on them will execute them . But it going on CD is weird so that is most likely a bug from urgots ultimate
@@rogreemaster1150 Yea but they mean that while everyone's reaction was just raise the number on the passive and brighting it up, urgot's one got the glowing square timer thing and then went on cd, so maybe...?
@@Joaquynn Ah true, I overlooked that thank you. So it's like if Urgot's timer is indeed applied, tho I'm guessing it's ONLY the timer itself and pressing R while the it's still going activates her ult rather than Urgot's, but who knows!
"You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, that you didn't stop to think if you should."
That quote from Jurassic Park hold so strong, it's funny but at the same time scary.
Might I also add, riot's designers don't even think in terms of gameplay. Their creativity is equal to chris chan's. XD
@@warlis4767 the CertainlyT effect.
He's long gone from LoL's development, but the shadow of his legacy looms strong over it.
@@NicholasHEADSHOTI will forever love him as a designer. Extremely creative and definitely caused some issues, but pushed the mechanics further than any other dev of that time. Him being on the MMO will bring GREAT things.
@@NicholasHEADSHOT I wish he never got a job at riot at all.
His imagination is like South Park- The Fractured But Whole type of thing where "my power is I have all powers!"
I have no respect for that guy whatsoever and to whoever trying to copycat him.
@@_gokceada Yeah, and there is no war at Ba Sing Se.
15:10 if you look closely smolder’s mom doesn’t turn around, her shadow keeps going in the same direction. From that we can deduce that Mel reflecting the ability actually summons ambessa to create the fire going back in smolder’s direction
Would be funny as hell if Riot adds a scuffed t-posing Ambessa shadow flying over them with that
Lmao a bot stole your comment right underneath your post
@@blackkitty420 bots know how to use Quillbot now😅😆
Wrath will be met with wrath.
hahahah thats so good
I can imagine how happy Vandiril is with this update to the practice tool, the time he will save now is insane
Testing with multi PT took 3~ hours. Without it would be like 20. Game changer for sure.
What update?
@@Vandiril The quality of life update sure is sweet.
@@eyjay1508 practice tool can have 10 actual people now
@@EgoCarry1 How many could it have before?
So vaynes E seems to be working well... 19:02
They throw away my girl like to the other part of the map 😭😭😭
Crazy how Ziggs can basically destroy his own turret lol
Proof that 9/11 was an inside job
Social political comment
New inting tactic. With this one champ you can even lose faster.
Blitz : *come here*
Mel : *No You*
Mel: get blitzpranked
When Blitz Q becomes Amumu Q
and then he can't walk away because he slows himselft on his W 🙃
LETS SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT!
this can still be countered by one of blitzcranks tanky allies stand in front of him though so they would be the one getting grabbed by the reflected projectile
Special thanks to Murray, Shao, Shad0wWarr10r and ZoochCrock for doing all the tests with me! Absolute heroess.
Testing this took over 3 hours and editing took me around 11~ hours (yes, I barely slept).
I hope I tested most of the things you wanted to see - sorry if I missed anything!
Thank you Vandiril for your dedication, I've been waiting for this video for days.
An incredible amount of dedication, thanks so much for making it so comprehensive! Would you happen to know how Malzahar’s abilities interact?
i wonder if katarina can shunpo on a reflected dagger (if it reflects). And if Kata's shunpo reflected swap places, that would be so stupid
Snowball in Aram?
@@katxu I would imagine she can't, since (I think) she can't shunpo to enemy Katarina's dagger
Reverting Teemo blind back to him is the most satisfying thing I didn't think I would love seeing there.
1:40 double ashe E looks beautiful
project ashe🤌
They cast glitterbomb
15:10 smolders mom switching sides is evil
- My mom works in RIOT
- No, mine
Look, you ain't gonna like what sylas does to smolders mom.
Imagine zed landing a triple shuriken on that thing 💀
- MOOOOOM !
"*gets reflected**
- YOU'RE ADOPTED
OUR mom
that Vayne E Rebuttal at 19:04 is insane she traveled so far lol
i think Mel's reflection is calculating the distance of Vayne's E on Mel + the distance of Mel's reflected E on Vayne, doing double the knockback.
this gotta be fixed...
Hello Lee Sin or Tristana R
@@CachorroDoMSN Although it also weirdly seems to be knocking her back to her nexus too, not just away from Mel, which is extra weirdness
@@flightmanzwe saw tristana R, leesin R doesn't work that way because it's not a projectile
@@aberrantreptile it’s going towards (0,0)
Great video, I like it! I do have a few questions about some of the interactions though. Would you consider exploring some of these in a future video please? Thanks!
1. Does Briar W get reflected?
2. What happens when Mel tries to reflect Irelia E's initial cast?
3. Does unenpowered Jayce Q get empowered if it's reflected version goes through Jayce E?
4. Can Thresh W be used my Mels teammates?
5. Can Mel stack Tristana E? Does it have a Cooldown reset?
6. Does the Vayne E bug push her toward Mels base, or just (0,0)? Does it maybe scale with the distance to base/(0,0)?
7. Does Braum passive stun work after you reflect Q?
Thanks for reading! :)
Most interactions are in Alphabetical order (or very close to it). Annie/Braum/Xayah are at the very end.
Added chapters so it's easier to navigate.*
where taric e?
@@vh5360 not a projectile
What about warwicks R?
wher is camille E is a proyectile
No Zed Q?
I find it hilarious that she turns Smolder’s mom against him, “hey, aren’t you tired of bailing him” “you’re right… get over here little man, we need to talk” like a true diplomat
;-;
u can see at the shadow that mom still going the same direction meaning she reflects her attack on him
It should turn the sound of the dragon into a voiceline from ambessa
@@Suycos dang, you’re right… I’m still keeping my head canon that she uses diplomacy to turn
Velkoz mains using a protractor to calculate where their Q detonation shot is going, just for mel to redirect it on them with 1 a click
Pythagoras walked so that Mel could run
Drawing actual triangles now.
She be using hypothenus domination
Thank you so much, that's quite useful preview
That Lillia R interaction is absolutely diabolical
The poor deer's win rate is going to fall by 5% when Mel releases.
I knew that would happen bc it can't go through yasuo's wall neither
@@mcatreus655 it's also blocked by vlad w
@@ptbro3334 I mean untargetability blocks like everything anyways so the vlad w interaction isn’t particularly strange
Imo it's really stupid that it counts as a projectile. It can be stopped by winwall/Samira w as well.
Mel: Block and reflect spells, can be done multiple times during buff.
Sivir: Blocks one spell, heal for 20.
Sivir is an ADC, they’re not allowed to have good kits.
@@Justanothermusicnerdxo but apparently Mel is allowed chuck Qs at you from across the map and press R to execute you from half hp while being able to deflect most things. Interesting.
sivir can block all the spells, but mel only can almost all
Blitzcrank: "Powered up and ready to serve" - *as he becomes slowed by his own ability*
@@RK-qi4tv but apparently sivir can deal 1k damage per crit while doing tons of aoe damage to the entire enemy team while buffing her entire teams movespeed and a basically undodgeable poke skillshot. oh, on top of that she has a spellshield 😅😊
take your bronze opinions elsewhere. her reflect is not that crazy
Smoulder: MOMMMM!
Mel: You know who else came to the battlefield today?
AMBESSA
Mel: MY MOM ohhhhhhhhh
Mel: My mom
Smoulder: MOMMMM!
Mel: MMMMOM!
With the new practices tool multiplayer, we can expect more content from vandiril
She can't reflect me brotherman
true and real
Oh Brotherman she can stack her passive on me all she want
@@pistacchio1373 i smell you brotherman it's a forced
mustard
No Loris value though😢
Vandiril you missed Shen! His Q can be blocked by Yasuo/Braum so I expect Mel to steal the Q :D
I hope she just hits you with the blade, so you get slowed, but still get the q of, probably not empowered tho. Maybe she just keeps the blade and makes it golden though, would be kinda funny
And Zac!
And viego's stun
And my axe!
And Leona
Damn. Some engeneers worked overtime getting all that to work
theyve been on it for 2 years or so
and then prolly got fired immediately after because it is riot
And for making a yellow gold version OF ALL PROJECTILES?
My uneducated guess is its doing 3 things: giving her invincibility, copying Yasuo windwall to delete projectiles, and then using Sylas/Viego code to fire completely new projectiles.
@@parakeeta786 I think Yasuo W works by not deleting the projectile, but teleporting it somewhere off the map. Also has something to do with minions, because everything in the game is basically some form of a minion with different coding and model.
The best thing about this video is just the music.
You know when Urf comes back people are just gonna play pong in mid with this champion. XD
not really i think its random pick urf so thats really bad
@@niezle1653 all random urf is the good one, i don't want to see her 2 times every game, so thats good
@@mrZocker11 arurf is the horrible one, takes the bad part of aram (unfortunate matchups) and makes it 100x worse. You almost always know who has lost the game when you see the teams. What they need to do is what they did during the first urf and have rotating disabled champs along side the player bans.
I LOVE how it zooms in for Sylas' ult part. I wondered about this too, thank you for doing the hard work! 💁♀
SHE GETS BRAND PASSIVE WITH HIS ULT????
Sylas being jealous right there.
It's Brand's own passive, she is redirecting Brand's R, not casting her own copied version like Sylas does.
@@zemagaia still doesn't make sense, by that logic she should get permanent AP by reflecting Veigar Q as well.
@@zemagaia Shouldn't Akshan's Q stack his passive in that case?
@@pvshka She doesn't gain the champions passive, the attack is reflected, not duplicated, it should be veigar that gain the permanent ap because it's still his Q.
Viego transforming into Mel deflecting a Sylas ult then immediately gets inside a Morde ult
The server will go down in flames.
0:18 *Mel on shimmer*
15:40 my disappointment is enormous
Missed chance to have Mel reflect Morde’s ult and say “I’m not trapped in here with you, you’re trapped in here with me!”
lmao
Im very impressed that not only every skill shot changes colour, it also uses the exact skin copy of that champion's skill.
It's just an overlay that makes it change colors. Takes like 5 lines of code
but knowing riot it's surprising it just change the color @@canozbegen
@@canozbegenyou re forgetting riot's spaghetti code, those 5 lines will somehow probably create 10 bugs haha
@@idkrandomchannel477 He doesn't forget anything, because the original comment was about amount of work not about potential bugs
Well in some cases the champions are using yellow-y skins
11:06 yellow snow 😭
piss ball
AHAHAHAHHAHA
Rolling piss
That's not pee, that's squirt
@@xVibrayellow…
Naut Q be like “Jokes on you, this is what I wanted to happen anyway.”
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very good video. Thanks for the work.
mel running with briar ult looks scarier than fiddlesticks
Mel should be able to call Ambessa upon reflecting Smolder ult
@@Maxel53 There are some ult-interactions, they could give her a voiceline for it
Ambessa is flying in the sky pissin
@@xVibra bro😭
@@xVibra OMG! LOL
All champions in order
0:34 - Ahri
0:51 - Aatrox
0:58 - Akali
1:03 - Amumu
1:09 - Akshan
1:20 - Anivia
1:33 - Ashe
1:47 - Aurelion Sol
1:52 - Azir
1:56 - Bard
2:06 - Blitzcrank
2:17 - Brand
2:36 - Briar
2:46 - Caitlyn
3:04 - Cassiopeia
3:14 - Diana
3:23 - Dr. Mundo
3:27 - Draven
3:47 - Ezreal
4:07 - Fizz
4:15 - Galio
4:22 - Gangplank
4:27 - Gnar
4:40 - Gragas
4:58 - Graves
5:14 - Heimerdinger
5:36 - Ivern
5:53 - Irelia
6:05 - Janna
6:16 - Jayce
6:27 - Jhin
6:53 - Jinx
7:08 - Kalista
7:19 - Kaisa
7:29 - Kha'Zix
7:37 - Lee Sin
7:47 - Lillia
8:02 - Lulu
8:16 - Lux
8:42 - Lucian
8:53 - Lissandra
9:01 - Maokai
9:24 - Mel
9:35 - Miss Fortune
9:54 - Mordekaiser
10:03 - Nami
10:27 - Morgana
10:33 - Nautilus
10:48 - Neeko
10:57 - Nidalee
11:02 - Nunu
11:12 - Ornn
11:31 - Poppy
11:53 - Pyke
12:04 - Qiyana
12:32 - Quinn
12:38 - Pantheon
12:55 - Renata
13:19 - Rumble
13:30 - Ryze
13:41 - Riven
13:47 - Samira
13:58 - Sejuani
14:10 - Senna
14:26 - Seraphine
14:43 - Sona
14:50 - Shyvana
15:00 - Smolder
15:15 - Swain
15:24 - Sylas
15:46 - Syndra
16:02 - Taliyah
16:14 - Tahm Kench
16:27 - Teemo
16:37 - Thresh
16:57 - Tristana
17:09 - Twitch
17:21 - Varus
17:49 - Urgot
18:12 - Twisted Fate
18:25 - Vex
18:45 - Vel'Koz
19:02 - Vayne
19:15 - Veigar
19:24 - Viktor
19:38 - Xerath
19:48 - Yasuo
19:55 - Yorick
20:04 - Yuumi
20:10 - Ziggs
20:43 - Zeri
20:56 - Zoe
21:08 - Annie
21:17 - Braum
21:29 - Xayah
I would've been curious with Aphelios, especially with the green gun Q and ult: can she use the big range auto attacks it gives ?
he didn't do rengar e
The description also has this
Zilean Is missing
Nocturne q is also missing
Can she reflect Vlad E
Xayah: It is over, she is reflecting everything we throw at her.
Sett: Can she reflect these hands tho?
Wait, Mel can reflect Sett w or e?
"there is one rule: my fists in your Face" -Sett
it seems sett never fails with that sentence
@@cerealmama3879no, but she can block 100% of W damage
I have many questions!
1. If Sylas uses ult to apply Anivia's chill effect to Anivia, will her reflected E deal double damage?
2. If Sylas does the same to light Brand on fire, will his reflected Q stun himself?
3. If Ezreal has a reflected W on him, will Mel's autos/abilities proc it? (The video only shows a reflected Q proccing it, I want to know if Mel's stuff can)
4. If Mel catches a reflected Gnar boomerang or picks up a reflected rock, does she get the corresponding Q cooldown partial resets?
5. Does it still reflect Galio and Gragas Qs if they finish moving before you use it?
6. If Mel reflect's Heimer's turret shots, does it target the turret or Heimer?
7. Does a Viego-Irelia benefit from the Unstable debuff of a reflected Irelia ultimate?
8. Can an ally Sylas ult to Kai'sa after her W is reflected?
9. If casting E ends reflected Briar ult early, does the same apply for pressing Q to travel to the Lee Sin mark?
10. If Lillia's E is reflected, can an ally Sylas use Lillia ult off of that?
11. If Lulu Qs with Pix on someone else, does the reflected Q go towards Pix, Pix's current host, or Lulu?
12. Do Mel's autos proc Lux passive after reflecting one of her abilities? In the video, it looks like she has the passive mark on her. If not, would a Viego-Lux be able to proc them?
13. Same as the Lee Sin question earlier, can Mel press E to blink to a reflected Lissandra E?
14. Can an ally Viego-Quinn benefit from Quinn's passive being applied from reflected Q?
15. Similar to the Lee Sin and Lissandra questions, can Mel cast Q to redirect Renata's Q after it lands?
16. Same question again, can Mel press E to pull Swain after reflecting his E? Same question, Thresh Q?
17. Do Mel's autos empower the Tristana bomb after reflecting it?
18. I think you missed Twitch E, I'm pretty sure that's blockable by windwall. If that was missed, does it base the damage on how many stacks Mel has, or how many Twitch has?
19. Do Mel's abilities proc the Varus passive?
It looks like there was a recast indicator when you reflected the first part of Urgot R, try pressing it there to get the result from the cinematic. (The indicator doesn't show up for other recastable ultimates like Vex R)
20. Does reflected Blue Card restore Mel's mana?
21. Do Mel's autos proc the Vex passive after reflected E?
22. After a reflected Braum Q, do teammates' autos continue stacking the passive?
This is what autism looks like
just wanted to add that mel+sylas combo will be such a good counter pick vs kaisa. if he ever wants a gank just walk up and steal R, then come back later where mel baits kaisa AA, reflects it to apply passive and sylas can now ult in xD
please vandiril check interactions with viego and with when there are the mirror ally on your own team to see if your new projectile will interact with their abilities/passives like above asked, it would be interesting to see. like for example a regular jayce Q going through allied jayce portal or even enemy one?
does morg R get reflected?
also, if mel intercepts a point and click projectile targetted someone else, who will the new target be? for example AAs, veigar R etc.
and, do distance travelled scaling abilities like ashe jinx R etc seem to calculate their scaling based on their travel time from original source? or rather does the calculation reset when they become your projectile?
I want to add to this list, does full stacked smolder's q execute on low health?
@@toriathan3082 18. Twitch E is not a projectile, it just looks like such
Weird that she can reflect the Ashe hawk
she's a hawk too, eh?
so she can reflect ashe's hawk too, eh?
she can also reflect non damage abilities like lux w and ashe e
A hawk?😮
@@starguardianjinx7685 bruh
1. Does Ezreal Q reset cooldowns?
2. Does Gnar Q reset Q cooldown?
3. Does GP Q give extra gold if it kills, and do you get his special coins?
4. Does Smolder Q proc the execute when his Q has enough stacks?
5. Does Thresh Q reset 3 seconds off of Q?
6. Can allies take Threshs lantern?
7. Can auto attacks stack the Tristana E?
8. What about Zyra plants, Heimer turrets and Shaco boxes?
Hypothesis:
1. Ezreal cd reset is on Q itself, so it might work
2. Gnar Q resets Gnar Q, probably not
3. GP gold/coin generation is on his passive, probably will not work
4. Execute is on Smolder passive, probably no
5. Assuming the same as Gnar, Thresh Q only resets Thresh Q
6. It's on the ability itself, probably yes
7. Yes
8. The projectile attacks? I assume it will return to the pets and not the caster, interesting to see though
@@snakerat4161 she reflects annie and brand's passives so she should do it on gp, smolder, etc
Sivir: absorb spell give mana.
2025: 200 years
not even mana anymore, it's health for awhile now
no not anymore it gives her health now instead of mana looks like mana was to op, but not mel :-3
Anti - mage
passive give a fix movement speed for attacks and abilities, w can ricochet to the whole team, targets behind tanks, e blocks abilities, r gives movement speed for entire team, duration resets upon kills
Remember when Kassadin could drain mana from his enemies and Riot thought that was too OP? Times have changed.
Why does the reflected Pyke E stun her?
1:17 She stole Akshan's passive!
2:20 Brand's passive
Caitlyn's E doesn't give her a headshot
3:50 It tried to predict where Ezreal was going, like how Senna's Q works
4:30 What about his cooldown refund?
7:25 Kai'Sa's passive and ult indicator
etc
edit: did not steal Senna's passive
17:55 it put her R on cooldown!
She even has custom indicator for Kai'sa's passive. Some engineers and product owners worked overtime for that
Edit: oh wait nvm that is from that Kai'sa skin, mb
She doesn't steal passives, if the champion's passive procs through abilities, she gains the effects of it, but not all effects.
It's caitlyin's passive, it gives Caitlyin a headshot.
Ezreal's E is a targeted skill.
Gnar didn't grab the boomerang.
That's Senna's passive, same as Cait.
Probably a bug.
but Brand doesn't have an empower skill, it stacks with his passive? did it count the moment she got hit and carry the effect back to Brand? otherwise it's buggy af.
@@sapk3532 yes brands passive makes it so whatever his skills hit will apply the passive, it just that normally it doesn't target himself and his allies
Tristana E stacks, Braum passive, Vex passive...
The interaction with Lilllia R is just. . .there are no words to describe how inmoral that is smh
As bullshit as Mel is, rilay using champions have no right to say anything about morality
it makes sense
@@ebenezer5392 it's still better than playing an overpowered juggernaut
this is because Lilia's R is a projectile.. Yep, that's right: Yasuo can block it with his windwall, I am pretty sure
@@cestlezooicimwits funny cuz mordekaiser fits both complaints
Seeing this I really want to see Mel played during Worlds, or in one of the big leagues.
Dear god the nightmare they just created for themselves to balance
Nothing that can't be fixed in a hundred thousand years
Idk. The reflected projectile uses the original caster's values so if anything they add a mod to the power of the reflected projectile
?
@@sammccullough2428you cannot play with renata Ult numbers tho
higher cooldown + deactivates after the first deflected ability, and its balanced imo, still busted in lane but needs good timing to thrive in teamfights, like a stronger but less often sivir e
on the mel W + mel W interaction, with enough ap you could multiply the damage from each reflect enough times to probably one shot people
HextechLab tested that and it does not stack up the multiply like that
I know it's not the takeaway from the vid, but 0 mana cost level 5 seems unnecessary.
At least they didn't make it so it refunds her mana, right?
HUH? Nah riot is just straight up trying to kill their game bro
@@Vandiril what if u reflect spells that refund mana on kill like annie or leblanc q and kill whit it ? will this refund mana ?
I mean, it's not like it makes any difference, it's the last skill she maximizes, and at that point she already has enough mana to the point that if the skill costed like 100, it wouldn't matter
@@Darkkamikazegirl probably, it should reflect the entirety of the spell, passive parts included
gracias Vandiril
Can we talk about the fact that Mel's W is effectively Nayru's Love? It even has a similar spell animation!
Finally we have Zelda in league lmfao
I’m convinced they could have had a new engine out with the amount of time it must have taken to code this.
Doesn't seem too bad really. Judging from how it interacts with like briar ult, it looks like shes just negating the projectile and casting it again. I cant tell if skillshot abilities get point-and-click auto tracking, but in either case it would either be reversing the vector of the projectile or just casting it with point-and-click tracking turned on
@@justaleek3456Casting it again is where so many abilitied would get fucked and need edge case coding
my guess its just sylas and viego code with a slight coat of paint
They cleaned up a lot of code for sylas and viego
This is actually an impressive video on 200ms. Can't imagine how long it took
Does she eat tahm kench?
18:10, this is referencing the fact that in the season 1 trailer at the 0:48 mark it shows Mel reflecting urgot ult and doing the execute animation.
But there was an option to "recast" urgot ult when she reflected r1 onto him. Obviously, he didn't show if we could or not, but I'm pretty sure that is what the trailer showed
@@SeeJade That's just Mel ult being available after dealing damage and proccing passive
@@TheQxtm If you look at previous times where something has been reflected, the ult lights up, but doesnt have that timer like the ult does when the urgot ult is reflected. It also puts mel's ult on CD weirdly enough.
@TheQxtm no no, it had the golden recast timer border for recastable abilities
@@kylekresse8667super weird that it put Mel’s ult on CD. You’d think they would have ironed out the bugs on an ability interaction shown in the trailer.
art team did a beautiful job with that golden hue it looks so pretty on every bounced ability
10:00 W doesn't reflect Morde R, you can tell because Mel's armour, MR, and AP all decreasestolen by morde
Morde: You're going to Brazil
Mel: No u
*Morde: Bitch we are both going to Brazil*
what about hwei?
When the urgpt ult got reflected Mel got a timer on her own ult so I guess you have to press r after reflecting the first part
That should be literally everyone’s first instinct, surprised Vandeil didn’t pressed it
@@borin192 He confirmed he did and it did nothing. (in an earlier comment)
She doesn't get any recasts. Also, Urgot ult auto casts at the end of the timer.
What about not reflecting first chain but those that kill you to an full HP Urgot?
The briar one makes the least sense but holy shit is it funny. What I'm getting at is it isn't reflecting the projectile, it's destroying it then recasting a new instance with Mel as the owner.
hence she is
They seem to have spent as much time thinking about this is as we have
Great video!
3:00 Caitlyn appreciates your warmth
17:55 why did Mel Ult get on cooldown from reflecting Urgot ultimate? That doesn't make sense
Yeah... It seemed like Urgot's R recast tried to substitute her R, and you can see this by the yellow thing around the skill... So maybe the Urgot being pulled by his ult in the cinematic is intentional, it's just bugged? Weird how it put HER ult on cooldown though.
Spaghetti
A few things to add (Leona especially):
Akali Q (works as expected)
Brand E (If targeted nearby ally, the jump to you can be reflected. If targeted on Mel with an ally nearby, it reflects the jump to that ally)
Draven R (blocking it AFTER it hits Mel, will make it instantly return to Mel and end it. The next Draven R does no damage)
Graves Q (After his Q does the first portion and before it lands to do the comeback part, Mel can reflect it to make it hers and do the second part retargeted towards Graves)
Katarina Q (Lands a dagger, which can be stepped on by Mel. She spins and does the damage of it. Doesn't effect E CD)
Katarina R (Reflects as expected, does more damage if allies stand behind her)
Leona E! (Depending on timing, both can get rooted, or Mel will jump to Leona. ALSO: Mel can cast Q when reflecting, either slightly before or after, and she will dash to her Q, NOT Leona)
Pyke E (standing on his start cast location stuns you both. Also, reflecting E will chase him until it hits him, even after teleporting around in practice tool)
Urgot Q (Can be reflected before hitting the ground)
Urgot R (Note: As shown, doesnt work as trailer showed. Sets Mel's R cd to max)
Malzahar Ult Pls?
The countless amount of times i mumbled "fuck off" under my breath while watching this video XD
7:56 EXCUSE ME
It is a projectile. Yasuo can block Lilia ult with wind wall
I mean it will only negate Mel from sleeping her Allies won’t be covered, and the only one Mel sleeps is lillia herself.
So in a scenario where Lillia applied passive to all 5 of Mel’s Allies and Mel reflects, it would turn into a 4v1 ( Lillia would be asleep and Mel’s team except her would be asleep)
Wait till you find out that mutiple champs xan block her r because it's a projectile
@@jasonescobar1828 - Depends. If Mel stays in front of her team, she can reflect all, or most, projectiles from her R. Just like Yasuo can delete all of them.
Her shield acts like a barrier, she can stop things that normally wouldn't be stopped to convert them into her ability - doesn't matter if aimed at her or not.
Seems its not a reflection and more of a "You casted this? *I* casted this."
Pyke R?
17:58 after reflecting Urgot ult although it didnt use the second part of his ult, it did highlight Mel's ult not just lighting it up for her passive but with a timed box around the border. Maybe she still needs to recast to get the execute? otherwise not sure why they'd show it in the champion showcase video lol
i mean, it has the timed bar, you probably have to press ult yeah
@@Blockzomb i believe it triggers automatically when it expires, but looks like it's bugged
Either: they missed a part in the code that lets you recast the skill or it auto casts it
OR: they changed their minds about recastable abilities that force their way in to the Mel's kit to prevent more bugs
The execute is automatically activated if the drill/rocket kills someone
Everyone mostly gonna taste their own medicine while Morderkaiser like :
U re still going to Brazil 😂
🎵I am rubber you are glue, what bounces off me sticks to you🎵
Man, that's absolutely INSANE!!!
4:12 two fizz?
17:57 pretty sure you had to press R for the urgot ult, you can see the timer on it, and after the timer her own ult went on cd for like 90+ seconds, so im pretty sure thats a bug, her normal ult cd is like under 80 seconds from what i remember, so that was definitely urgots ult lmao
But Urgot ult should also activate by itself at the end of the timer, if the target is low enough. As that didn't happen, I think pressing R would just have cast her ult instead but not the reel in of the Urgot ult. But I think that interaction is definitely bugged, as the reel in will take Braum an execute him if he blocks it, yet here it didn't do anything.
@lubue5795 her normal ult doesnt have a timer around it when its active, so it probably would've activated urgot ult imo?, also yea, it could activate her ult instead, but definitely bugged
Doesn't work
I pressed R too (didn't put this clip in) - it didn't do anything.
im almost sure that removing the cdr of spells in pratice toll is making some interactions not work as intended. Mel can (as of her teaser) recast urgots R. If that is the case, maybe it would be nice to test again sylas R@Vandiril
she's literally a counter for almost every skillshot/mages champs
(I said ALMOST not all)
(Omg i just realized she can counter teemo the satan pretty well because if they tries to blind you they're blinded)
*Locks Malzahar*
Parry this, you filthy casual!
Morde is a good champ to lane with her
Syndra seems to be a counter for Mel. Moving the balls doesn't seem to count as a projectile
@@AmberJays so does orianna count? I mean its also a ball
she is not counter for mages, she can use it once per 40 seconds lvl 1. Its just a cool ability against almost every champ in some way
La Q de Gwen ?
Ok this is a very big nuance! She takes ownership of the ability! It's like she cast it wow...
I can't imagine how Rito will balance this for pro play. Imagined the best players in the world being able to turn almost any ability or ult back on the other team.
they gave her a weak early game thats how dev keeps all champs from proplay, they said in pro the early game is everything thats why we dont see that much scaling champs in pro and when we do they have 100 supports to well support them
I honestly don't think it will be that bad.
After all, it's not "almost every ability" as there are a ton of champs and kits that don't have a single projectile. And many projectiles she doesn't want to reflect like Nautiuls Q or AmumuQ. So this spell is a hard counter for certain spells, but entirely useless against others. So, she will only be meta if other meta Champs have strong projectiles that are worth bouncing back. And we also don't see a lot of Braum in play, despite him too countering projectiles.
Not to forget that she's a midlaner and there are many other things she has to do to be playable.
@@AniSwiftTVRecaps Smolder, Smolder can happens
They will definitely switch the W for her R like with tahm kench but obviously they will make the champ overtuned for no reason except to buy the skins
Been playing league since 2017, and nah, I don't think it's unbalanced.
Dota 2 has this ability on AM (with insane 3s cd and shareable with shard upgrade). There's also an item that does the same thing, but doesn't block, only reflect, with reflect duration of 6s. Both are honestly super situational uses.
In pro play, they just auto that reflecting motherfucker down. You can reflect spells but you can't do jack shit against getting hit.
mel to maokai: I AINT A BABYSITTER TAKE YOUR KIDS BACK
where shaco
So this is where they put the reflector champion, after moving it from Sylas, to Aurora, and finally we have it as Mel.
Little addition on how recasts seem to work:
If the recast is a straight-up different spell (say anivia Q2, ziggs W2, akali E2, urgot R2), Mel won't be able to use it whatsoever, because she doesn't obtain the new recast spell. So, all recasts - or at least all of those i can think of right now - cannot be used by Mel.
In the case of Urgot R specifically, i'm guessing it cannot pull because the execute part of the spell is reserved to the recast (R2), and doesn't exist in R1! And since R2 isn't given to Mel, she can't execute.
On the other hand, spells that require another "spell position" to be used, like Briar R that requires Briar to use her E to cancel the berserk, *do* work, as in Mel simply needs to use E to get out of briar's R effect. (it works the same if Sylas steals Briar R, so it also seems to be consistent).
Meanwhile, i wonder if Nautilus Q and Thresh Q, when reflected by Mel, refunds a part of Mel's Q if it hits? Are there other projectiles in the game that can give a spell refund, or has an interaction with a spell "slot" specifically that Mel could utilise?
Edit: They changed urgot's R interaction! Now you know why it didn't work in the first place, at least.
Commenting to get this to the top
8:57 so skillshits do not track the enemy champion but are shot towards their direction.
But why does Lissandra E change direction halfway?
This is my biggest question tbh. Really seems like it should be a bit too much for the reflected abilities to track enemy location. It should just be reflected in the same direction it was originally cast. There does seem to be some indication in this video that there is some tracking happening.
Absolute madman recording this on 215-220 ping
Balance aside, this has to one if not the coolest and most fun abilty in the game. But damn is it OP af, she almost has every ability in the game.
Vast majority of abilities are not a projectile.
Take WW, Aurelion, Wukong, Garen, etc. all those champs have no proiectile in their kit whatsoever.
And there are many projectiles that are simply not worth reflecting like Brand Q, Ornn Q, etc. as she can't do anything with them afterwards and her W has around 35 -22 seconds CD. Throwing it out willy nilly will just get you punished.
@@lubue5795it’s also her only defense, and her other abilities are very one note to compensate. She’s a very simple mage which I like
@@lubue5795 at 3 items she can get it down to 15 seconds
She counters skillshot AOE CC ults like Renata and Seraphine extremely hard. On the other hand, the best counterpicks against her are the champs that get their main skillshot value even when they are reflected. Amumu Q, Briar Ult make her jump into them. Nautilus Q only changes who took the damage.
@@Janders797- Not only them - I'd say champions with recast skills are very strong against her. Lux with E and Gragas with Q can just poke her and force her shield out - and she won't hit them if she reflects because she can't pop the explosion.
1:15 Did she get Ashkan's passive as well ??? She got a shield, how did she get a bloody shield otherwise ?? She literally steals the entire champion's kit.
The autos from Briar Ult also left a bleed, so it seems like it pulls a bit more than only the ability
@@zephloe both of these and probably others were it reflects more then just the spell has got to be unintended right?
also saw it used brand passive.
abit unfair that it uses more then it says it does. and Sylas ULT doesn't do this.
@@FlameBlueNova Sylas Ult is weird, someties it steals "more" and sometimes it doesn´t, it is very inconsistent as far as I know. Sylas gains the AA apply plasma part from Kai´Sa for example and I think jax empowered AA as well, so it really seems kind of random if Sylas gains "another passive" as well
@schokokeks149 well jaxs empowerd aa is in his ult and kaisa well he couldn’t ever use it if he didn't get part of her passive. Pretty sure it only works with cc tho and doesn't give extra dmg
Zyra, aurora: am i a joke to you?
I love that she can reflect Smolder's ult. It just means that she casts a shield and then his mom just go "Fuck you, son" and turns right around