Well i think we all know that he is gonna sell it anyways the next day saying something like "the best quality from Colombia, only for you my friend" 😂
So I recently learned quite a bit about rubies…. They’re so cheap the glass filled ones. I heard someone recently say on a video they had a ruby that wasn’t heat treated. It took me down a rabbit hole. Basically, and I’m oversimplifying and don’t know Jack about rubies except for this great documentary I watched that there are three types of rubies: - unheated - heated -glass filled They classify rubies according to something called the 4C’s and OT. The four C’s relate to weight, clarity, cut and colour. The OT is treatment of the ruby and o is the origin of the ruby. All of these will determine the price of it. Glass filled rubies are sometimes considered “composites”, because they aren’t 100% rubies. Heat treatment is literally a permanent process that is heating rubies in a crucible to improve their colour and clarity. Natural rubies can be somewhat milky in appearance which is why they treat them, but a good quality, unheated ruby of good origin (certain countries are preferred over others, like an Afghanistan ruby isn’t as valuable as a Myanmar ruby, or more commonly known as a “Burmese Ruby”) that meets the highest qualities of the 4Cs go for the most. While composite rubies that are glass filled are worth mere dollars for a 1 carat stone, there is a huge chasm between that and even heat treated rubies. Another awesome thing about rubies? They fluoresce under a UV light. The less iron in your Ruby, the more it will fluoresce. They are also one of the original gemstones considered worthy of royalty and trading, along with diamonds and emeralds and sapphires and a couple of others. And that’s all I know about rubies. That’s not true - in the documentary they showed us the bubbles you can see in a glass filled/composite Ruby and the cracks that form as well. *EDITED TO SAY THAT…* a few people have rightly corrected me. I said the four Cs and then proceeded to list three Cs and then a word not beginning with C. The four “Cs” are: - Cut - Clarity - Colour - Carat ….this is the one I mislabelled. I did describe it correctly, but I meant to say carat, which refers to the size and weight of the stone, which will of course, like the other “Cs” affect the value of the stone. OT refers to: *”Origin”* - where the stone came from, which again, has an impact on price *”Treatment”* - how the stone is treated, as in the case for rubies, refers to if it has been heated or if it has been infused with glass, which after reading the above, we all know devalues the stone and makes it a composite - not a true Ruby, but a composite of different materials. Thank you to those of you who caught this or asked about it and I hope this clears it up! I wanted to say that everyone on this comment thread has been so very kind and lovely, and you don’t get a lot of that when posting on TH-cam, so I wanted to say a big *_THANK YOU_* to everyone! ❤️ 🇨🇦 Expat living in the 🇬🇧
relaxing? definitely not. Interesting for sure though, and not to mention mildly infuriating. I kinda hate watching him totally rip these people off. But i gotta give it to him, hes great at what he does.
Another tip for rubies is a blacklight don't forget to get a blacklist flashlight for the handy dandy ruby finds lol plus I would never have bought that ruby look at the cracks and inclusions just with a camera and naked eye lol
Certain stones can crack, chip and even scratch but when you get a stone that looks like that its pretty obvious just holding it the things fake. I have a ring with an artifically grown ruby in it thats over 30 years old, the silver ring its in is beaten to hell and back but the ruby is still perfectly smooth
I think the person that spends a significant amount of money on jewellery likely deserves to be swindled, especially considering where these ultra expensive gems come from and the quality of life the people that tend to mine them are. Give the money to a charity instead of blowing it on a rock.
this is awesome do you have a school you can have a students you can post on your knowledge I'm very interested I'm old but can still learn something please , a response for this request not too many people have knowledge like you all this is just a hobby?
Question I bought a parcel of Cheaper low low low low low quality rubies. I can find bubbles in like three or four of the 21 that I bought but I cannot find bubbles in the other ones. Is there another way of telling other than the fissures on the outside and the bubbles on the inside? I'm just trying to figure stuff out
Can some one explain what glass filled means? So you some how find a gem, hollow it out, and fill it with glass? Or is it just glass with coloring from the start?
Maybe do a video on what glass filled it's? Also, I've seen "S925" more frequently on 'silver' jewellery, but it doesn't have the weight to be sterling silver and 'gf' when it comes to gold. Maybe you could do a video on those as extra content too?
a glass filled ruby is not a fake ruby lmao. it's a real ruby that's had a specific type of treating that stabilizes the ruby with glass. I have a Ruby that is corundum filled is that fake to a ruby filled with ruby lol
A ruby that clear is hard to find. They should have just faceted what they could from the stone instead of treat it, also could have made an amazing Star Ruby with beautiful clarity if it had titanium oxide (Rutile) inclusions in it. A lot of people are in the gemstone industry just to make a quick dollar, but thankfully there are people who see the value and beauty of art in leaving stones in their natural states, who wont fill a Ruby with glass. I would also like to add, Star Sapphires and Rubies are underrated, they are way cooler than faceted clear stones in my opinion. I also just love gemstones that have visual effects to them, like some types of Feldspar, Quartz, and many other gemstone species. Here in Georgia we have Star Rose Quartz, and it looks amazing. I think I actually found a piece for a ring that has a double 6 ray star, giving it 12 rays. I dont know for sure if it is Rose Quartz or something else though, a lot of gemstones can have the inclusions and crystal structure that creates Asterism or Chatoyancy or Schiller
You're not wrong at all but I think the reason it's so alluring is because it's a status symbol of having a limited resource, and less so about the object itself
You should get a tiny jar with vinegar, dump the ring in front of the costumer, leave it for 1 minute.... And pull it out, dry it up, and show the costumer that the ruby is obviously glass filled. Doing so will obviously destroy the look of the ruby by showing off it's now internal spider webs that used to be filled with glass.
That shows oil filling. The acid, vinegar in this case when soaked for long enough penetrates the stone and leaches the oil out. Vinegar will not eat away a glass nodule inside a gem. You can distinguish glass filled from refraction as he stated in the video.
Hey avi, can you recommend a "good enough" gem microscope I can buy? I see you used a novax p-10 is that perfect for determining if gems are natural? Any other good ones that aren't super expensive? Thanks so much for the help
My home made Ruby come out nearly indistinguishable from natural Ruby after cleaning and faceting. You would literally need to be an expert at identifying fake Ruby/Sapphire to figure it out.
Was it in gold or ??? That seems like it could have been a scam not from now but from long ago someone family’s family’s ago used this ring to do tricks on folks of towns !!!! Passed around or somehow re bought back used throughout
Avi will you teach me how to negotiate? Ik how to use refractometer, spectroscope, microscope, sg, dicroscope, uv lamp and I have knowledge about synthetic and natural gemstones but sadly no marketing skills of rate of gemstones a little in diamond tho pls make me you assistant I'll work for free
So what I’ve learned is that if me and my gf don’t really care about a gem being real and would rather invest in car or home payments and wait on a nicer gem for later in life just get a fake, for like 50 bucks tops
Lab grown gems are more aesthetically, pleasing, and cheaper for you. And the whole warlords in child slaves and stuff like that isn’t involved in synthetic laboratories. 😅 She sounds like a keeper
90% of ruby's are not natural gemstone and have been heat treated and some as in this video glass filled. don't waste money on ruby's it's literally the rarest natural gemstone especially if you want it in a larger size.
raw ruby shows in a lot more places than you think. depends where you live, you gotta live near a good hotspot of sapphire and ruby. Luckily they are close to me.
Can you tell the difference between a real diamond and a lab diamond without a special light/tool? I feel like I can, but people say I'm crazy although I've been right 3/3 times
I don't know why you needed a microscope to tell. I can tell it is glass filled looking at it on my shitty cell phone. I bought a bunch for an art project.
The diamond industry is different than the colored gem industry. Fine quality rubies, sapphires, and emeralds are actually rare. Diamonds are one of the most common gemstones on the planet. To put it into context, give me 48 hours and I can find you around a dozen 10 carat D flawless ideal cut diamonds easily. If you gave me 6 months, I’d say it would be a 50-50 chance I could maybe find you 1 fine gem quality 10 carat Unheated Burmese ruby.
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Are lab created ruby’s worth anything ?
Facts bro if you see bubbles it is glass
@@TheCian19you're a weirdo
@@irvinc601 they worth whatever you’re willing to pay for them but anything lab created losses is value for resale.
“But I’ll buy it for 40 bucks bro”
Imagine if he just pretended it was fake 😂
@@6infinity8 very illegal
@@6infinity8 u could go to prison
@@Reallich_how is it very illegal to lie to someone
@@aidanc35 defraud*
Well i think we all know that he is gonna sell it anyways the next day saying something like "the best quality from Colombia, only for you my friend" 😂
“Colombia” with an O not a U…
@@cvs7681 Well in my country its written Kolumbia with U and K so yeah, there might have been a little mistake on my part. I will edit it.
@@bear6811 true King
For you my friend, special price.
@@bear6811 No, if thats how it is in your country, then you're right. You don't have to fix it for dickhead
Bro would probably still be like 1200 per carat
Did u just call the fkn ruby a bro?
It's glass there is no "carat" it's worth like $4 max
@@rollin60z no goofball he called joe “bro”
Not even close to 1200 a carat lol
Not even close learn the markets 😂
So I recently learned quite a bit about rubies….
They’re so cheap the glass filled ones. I heard someone recently say on a video they had a ruby that wasn’t heat treated. It took me down a rabbit hole.
Basically, and I’m oversimplifying and don’t know Jack about rubies except for this great documentary I watched that there are three types of rubies:
- unheated
- heated
-glass filled
They classify rubies according to something called the 4C’s and OT.
The four C’s relate to weight, clarity, cut and colour. The OT is treatment of the ruby and o is the origin of the ruby. All of these will determine the price of it.
Glass filled rubies are sometimes considered “composites”, because they aren’t 100% rubies.
Heat treatment is literally a permanent process that is heating rubies in a crucible to improve their colour and clarity.
Natural rubies can be somewhat milky in appearance which is why they treat them, but a good quality, unheated ruby of good origin (certain countries are preferred over others, like an Afghanistan ruby isn’t as valuable as a Myanmar ruby, or more commonly known as a “Burmese Ruby”) that meets the highest qualities of the 4Cs go for the most.
While composite rubies that are glass filled are worth mere dollars for a 1 carat stone, there is a huge chasm between that and even heat treated rubies.
Another awesome thing about rubies? They fluoresce under a UV light. The less iron in your Ruby, the more it will fluoresce.
They are also one of the original gemstones considered worthy of royalty and trading, along with diamonds and emeralds and sapphires and a couple of others.
And that’s all I know about rubies.
That’s not true - in the documentary they showed us the bubbles you can see in a glass filled/composite Ruby and the cracks that form as well.
*EDITED TO SAY THAT…* a few people have rightly corrected me. I said the four Cs and then proceeded to list three Cs and then a word not beginning with C.
The four “Cs” are:
- Cut
- Clarity
- Colour
- Carat ….this is the one I mislabelled. I did describe it correctly, but I meant to say carat, which refers to the size and weight of the stone, which will of course, like the other “Cs” affect the value of the stone.
OT refers to:
*”Origin”* - where the stone came from, which again, has an impact on price
*”Treatment”* - how the stone is treated, as in the case for rubies, refers to if it has been heated or if it has been infused with glass, which after reading the above, we all know devalues the stone and makes it a composite - not a true Ruby, but a composite of different materials.
Thank you to those of you who caught this or asked about it and I hope this clears it up! I wanted to say that everyone on this comment thread has been so very kind and lovely, and you don’t get a lot of that when posting on TH-cam, so I wanted to say a big *_THANK YOU_* to everyone! ❤️ 🇨🇦 Expat living in the 🇬🇧
I appreciate the explanation. Before I read your comment I was wondering if heated or unheated was more valuable.
Thanks for getting the info for us my man 🫡
You're the kind of friend I'd treasure with random knowledge like that.
@@yuta7359 that’s so sweet! I’m full of useless information haha!
@@f1nex280 that’s why I looked it up!
Cause it's a piece of sh*** 😂😂😂😂🖤 loved this one, I love seeing the analysis/review ahahaha
😂
Cuz it's not even a Ruby it's a red glass- 😂
I have no interest in gemology at all but this channel is awesome, relaxing, informative and interesting.
That’s a real word? 😂
Bro this channel is basically scammer trying to scam the scammer 😂😂
Odd what you find relaxing
Maybe you do have an internet in gemology then
relaxing? definitely not. Interesting for sure though, and not to mention mildly infuriating. I kinda hate watching him totally rip these people off. But i gotta give it to him, hes great at what he does.
Super cool insight Avi! Love these videos that teach you a bit as well.
Big fan of the negotiation videos too.
Appreciate you!
Avi i really enjoy your videos. Thanks for good content!
Another tip for rubies is a blacklight don't forget to get a blacklist flashlight for the handy dandy ruby finds lol plus I would never have bought that ruby look at the cracks and inclusions just with a camera and naked eye lol
I wish they showed how they look under the microscope. I've never heard of glass filled rubies before.
Most of "cheap" rubies are either glass filled or synthetic.
its super common to fill cracks and other imperfections to make the ruby look more “perfect”
I swear all of his videos comment sections are split in two, with one half loving the insight and the other half hating on how the guy negotiates
This is why when I buy things I speak to a geologist they'll tell you what it is and it's from the dirt
The cracks leading up to the surface may be boehmite needles commonly found in rubies.
It’s not. They are definitely cracks. You can see them in the shot at the end, when the camera is at the right angle.
Glass filled are still real rubies but when a ruby cracks or has chips they fill them in with glass but still they are real
Can’t blame that second guy for thinking he was meeting an 18 year old lol
Certain stones can crack, chip and even scratch but when you get a stone that looks like that its pretty obvious just holding it the things fake. I have a ring with an artifically grown ruby in it thats over 30 years old, the silver ring its in is beaten to hell and back but the ruby is still perfectly smooth
Yehuda Sherlock holmes 3.0
I feel like companies that sell fake jewelry under the premise they are real, they should face some of the highest fines. It should be taken to court.
I think the person that spends a significant amount of money on jewellery likely deserves to be swindled, especially considering where these ultra expensive gems come from and the quality of life the people that tend to mine them are. Give the money to a charity instead of blowing it on a rock.
@ZaKa Zan nah fam, that's actually stupid af. We're not some third world country.
Sorry but if you're dumb enough to get scammed you deserve to get scammed xD just don't buy expensive jewelry and problem solved :)
Even without the magnifier you can see unnatural bubbling and impurities under the surface
this is awesome do you have a school you can have a students you can post on your knowledge I'm very interested I'm old but can still learn something please , a response for this request not too many people have knowledge like you all this is just a hobby?
Question I bought a parcel of Cheaper low low low low low quality rubies. I can find bubbles in like three or four of the 21 that I bought but I cannot find bubbles in the other ones. Is there another way of telling other than the fissures on the outside and the bubbles on the inside? I'm just trying to figure stuff out
My man explained that perfectly, thank you for the knowledge, I'll keep it for a while sir.
Are glass filled gems worthless?
Yes
Not necessarily.
Somewhat
Yeah pretty much
Can some one explain what glass filled means?
So you some how find a gem, hollow it out, and fill it with glass? Or is it just glass with coloring from the start?
chuck a uv light to it , if it glows, its good
Got a 5 carat ruby ring with diamonds around … pawned for $1600 which based on the weight of the gold ring. Ruby was $15k alone come to find out
Maybe do a video on what glass filled it's? Also, I've seen "S925" more frequently on 'silver' jewellery, but it doesn't have the weight to be sterling silver and 'gf' when it comes to gold. Maybe you could do a video on those as extra content too?
love how we always get a upshot of his chin.
“Cause it’s a piece of sh-“
U didn’t have to cute me off
a glass filled ruby is not a fake ruby lmao. it's a real ruby that's had a specific type of treating that stabilizes the ruby with glass. I have a Ruby that is corundum filled is that fake to a ruby filled with ruby lol
A ruby that clear is hard to find. They should have just faceted what they could from the stone instead of treat it, also could have made an amazing Star Ruby with beautiful clarity if it had titanium oxide (Rutile) inclusions in it.
A lot of people are in the gemstone industry just to make a quick dollar, but thankfully there are people who see the value and beauty of art in leaving stones in their natural states, who wont fill a Ruby with glass.
I would also like to add, Star Sapphires and Rubies are underrated, they are way cooler than faceted clear stones in my opinion.
I also just love gemstones that have visual effects to them, like some types of Feldspar, Quartz, and many other gemstone species. Here in Georgia we have Star Rose Quartz, and it looks amazing. I think I actually found a piece for a ring that has a double 6 ray star, giving it 12 rays. I dont know for sure if it is Rose Quartz or something else though, a lot of gemstones can have the inclusions and crystal structure that creates Asterism or Chatoyancy or Schiller
Natural air can also be a round bubble
Personally I think that all rocks are still just rocks and the fact that people spend so much on a rock just because it's shiny it's just dumb.
Tru that, I find beauty in everything "fake" or not.
You're not wrong at all but I think the reason it's so alluring is because it's a status symbol of having a limited resource, and less so about the object itself
You should get a tiny jar with vinegar, dump the ring in front of the costumer, leave it for 1 minute.... And pull it out, dry it up, and show the costumer that the ruby is obviously glass filled.
Doing so will obviously destroy the look of the ruby by showing off it's now internal spider webs that used to be filled with glass.
That shows oil filling. The acid, vinegar in this case when soaked for long enough penetrates the stone and leaches the oil out. Vinegar will not eat away a glass nodule inside a gem. You can distinguish glass filled from refraction as he stated in the video.
OK but then you're destroying something they bought for $x amount, so you're going to have to pay for it.
imagine trusting valuation of the people trying to buy something from you 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Please do more videos on identifying Fugazi’s😂
❤nice one❤
Never buy expensive jewels 🙂
I dont know if i should or shouldnt.
“Ahh, I’ll buy it at a high price stranger”
"What're you buyin'?"
Lol. Resident Evil reference I'm hoping?
Does this mean the exterior of the stone is ruby and its hollowed out and filled with glass?
Just out of curiosity what happens to people who sell each other fake gem stones? Do you all start kneecapping each other?
Sometimes it’s too good to be true so be careful. But other times businesses take advantage of that by making it priced too bad to be false
Thanks for the tip bro 🥂
Joe seems like he's in the wrong business
Probably thinking "how can i pawn this off on someone more dumb than me?"
Hey avi, can you recommend a "good enough" gem microscope I can buy? I see you used a novax p-10 is that perfect for determining if gems are natural? Any other good ones that aren't super expensive? Thanks so much for the help
My home made Ruby come out nearly indistinguishable from natural Ruby after cleaning and faceting. You would literally need to be an expert at identifying fake Ruby/Sapphire to figure it out.
When this happens, what is Standard Operating Procedure in this industry?
My question is how the hell do you fill a ruby or any stone with glass?
Aaaand, that's why buying jewelry is a bad idea xD
Was it in gold or ??? That seems like it could have been a scam not from now but from long ago someone family’s family’s ago used this ring to do tricks on folks of towns !!!! Passed around or somehow re bought back used throughout
No it's a novelty ring from the 1940s. Made of glass and brass.
Could you tell the difference between real and synthetic ruby?
Avi will you teach me how to negotiate? Ik how to use refractometer, spectroscope, microscope, sg, dicroscope, uv lamp and I have knowledge about synthetic and natural gemstones but sadly no marketing skills of rate of gemstones a little in diamond tho pls make me you assistant I'll work for free
Rubies are like the easiest gym to grow at home so like what’s stopping me from just making 1000 synthetic rubies
Cool, I want know how to make one now
So what I’ve learned is that if me and my gf don’t really care about a gem being real and would rather invest in car or home payments and wait on a nicer gem for later in life just get a fake, for like 50 bucks tops
Lab grown gems are more aesthetically, pleasing, and cheaper for you. And the whole warlords in child slaves and stuff like that isn’t involved in synthetic laboratories. 😅
She sounds like a keeper
Well, i at least know my ruby is actual ruby. It's supposed to be an 11 carat Burmese ruby. It glows quite nicely under uv.
Why would someone glass-fill a ruby when they could use lab-grown corundum instead?
Haha you can see the bubble so clearly too, big oof
Just because the stone is glass-filled, it doesn’t mean it’s not a real ruby.
Chucks it in bin and takes it out when customer leaves
90% of ruby's are not natural gemstone and have been heat treated and some as in this video glass filled. don't waste money on ruby's it's literally the rarest natural gemstone especially if you want it in a larger size.
raw ruby shows in a lot more places than you think. depends where you live, you gotta live near a good hotspot of sapphire and ruby. Luckily they are close to me.
Do you buy lab stones or only natural
Natural rubies unheat very expensive
Best cut off🤣
Rudy is my birth stone
I don't understand why we buy these rocks when we literally have the technology to do it in our garage especially Ruby's I only need a microwave.
“Because it’s a piece of shi-“ like the people who sold it
Ain’t even need a microscope for that one.
Right?😂
About to go to his worst enemy with the "were basically family price" 😅
Plot twist jo knew it was glass filled and was playing dumb 😂😂😂
“did u buy it as glass filled” *doesnt answer and rubs face*
The cloudiness would make a real ruby only $40-100 a carat
Can you tell the difference between a real diamond and a lab diamond without a special light/tool? I feel like I can, but people say I'm crazy although I've been right 3/3 times
That look when he said "oh no"
Your camera picked up those bubbles.
How did the dude get jipped?
I don't need a microscope to tell that was a POS
What’s the refractive index of a Ruby? That’s a more concrete way then just saying if there is a bubble or not.
Are all lab rubies glass filled?
He couldn't tell it was fake do real cut rubies ever have such a dull look to them?
the picture on the back wall reminds me of Opals, my favourite stone 😁
I don't know why you needed a microscope to tell. I can tell it is glass filled looking at it on my shitty cell phone. I bought a bunch for an art project.
Wait, how do you fill a ruby with glass?
My favorite part was when he said it was a piece of shit 😅
A ring pop is less cloudy
Do you buy australian saphires or black opal?
Thailand. Get it from the mines in Afghan instead
If i saw that id probably immediately say that was fake. Im not a expert but I'd notice a bubble like that
The stone looks cracked along the top. How the fuck did he miss that?!?!?!
I never understood why it matters. I think jewelery is pointless.
Buddy imagine it’s a perfect ruby and he’s just making up reasons to short him
We’ve all seen Flushed Away we know how to test for fakes…
JOE NEEDS A MAGNIFYING GLASS
Joe's gonna go find the seller after this
Lost his shirt on that ring, only buy from reputable sources you know will guarantee the gem or money back.
If you can't tell without a microscope maybe it's time to realise that there's really no point in this super expensive rocks
He said oh no…. Already knew
The entire diamond industry is a scam in itself no one knows the right price 😢.
I hope it collapses. I really do.
Yes the Diamond industry. The Natural Gems are where it’s at as far as true rarity.
The diamond industry is different than the colored gem industry. Fine quality rubies, sapphires, and emeralds are actually rare. Diamonds are one of the most common gemstones on the planet.
To put it into context, give me 48 hours and I can find you around a dozen 10 carat D flawless ideal cut diamonds easily. If you gave me 6 months, I’d say it would be a 50-50 chance I could maybe find you 1 fine gem quality 10 carat Unheated Burmese ruby.
@Jackaroo. Is it really that hard to find an untreated ruby ?
I can tell by the look of that zoomed it that it was glass!!
The ending lol