respect the honesty “I’m the harvesting my food fisherman”, same for me…never interested in holding up a wild fish for a nice picture, hoping to see you on the river this year
There are many types of anglers, some just want something on the BBQ, some will clip the ends off their dry fly hooks and get a thrill just from seeing a trout take their fly and knowing they could have caught it. I totally respect this diversity of styles, but at the same time playing with a wild creature just for entertainment doesn't feel right to me. It's really complicated, because I also release a lot of salmon, especially chinooks after I've got enough for the year. It's not something that I have entirely figured out yet.
Looking forward the the Chum timing video. I'm very interested in harvesting a couple of bright chum with white bellies, which I think come in mid November, after the main push is done. Thanks for such an interesting and informative channel.
Catching some silver bright Coho on the river is way more fun than catching them in the ocean. We used to have insane Coho fishing on the Cowichan River, during late October and early November they would be coming in chrome. We need quite a bit of rain to get them going on the Island. I'd always fish a few km above tidewater. They were a biting fish, you didn't have to floss them. I'll be trying a bit of river fishing this fall for sure. Cheers Petr. :)
Yes, it's a blast. Our coho are 100 kilometers from the ocean and they're picky. They bite, but you really have to work to make them. It's difficult to limit out, I usually manage a coho limit of 4 just once or twice a season.
Thanks! I have saved some days off that I want to utilize this season. This will be hopefully my first year on the Vedder and this video really helps on where I should put my days off at. Are the fish generally in the lower part/cannal in the last week of September/first week of October? Not trying to time the run but just trying to get an understanding of where my efforts should be based on the time of the month.
The fish will be throughout the river at that point, from the Canal right to the hatchery. It only takes them a couple of days to swim the river when they decide to move. What part of the river you choose depends on the experience you seek. The fish tend to be more chrome at the bottom, but that's also the most crowded part.
I like this format. Fireside esc talks are fun and informative. Is the Vetter River kind of higher up? It's interesting because in Washington I would consider peak season to be around now till the end of September for coho; especially if you want them to be Chrome. I continue fishing for them into early November but by then like you said it's mostly fish that are ready to spawn.
The Vedder is near Vancouver. The peak run varies by river quite a bit. We have other rivers just 20 kilometers away, where the peak of the run is two to three weeks later and another one in North Vancouver where there is a summer run of Coho.
Hi Peter, do you guide? We're headed up skeena first week October then coming back down your way to fish the Vedder&fraser for coho and chum, we're looking to swing flies but would be interested in other methods you use!
It's something I'm considering for the future, but not at the moment. There are many good guides here in the valley, Rod Toth for example. We have a fly fishing specific shop here in town, called Pacific Rivers, they're afilliated with Loop Tackle and will be able to give you good advice.
There are extra high tides for a couple of days around a full moon. Usually 3 or 4 "king tides" of "spring tides" The fish use these to push up the Fraser and into the Vedder. Usually 2 or 3 days after a full moon is best, though sometimes fish use moolight to travel at night and that helps too by getting fresh fish to the spot in the morning.
I did not land a single coho my first year on the Vedder, 2 years ago I landed 80. It takes patience and lots of time on the river, but it can be done. I'm not even all that talented at fishing, but I did spend many years paying close attention to those who were catching. Hopefully these videos will help you catch one.
@petrhermanadventures9509 thanks Petr, I've watched all vids possible and still struggling(just my luck). I'll go with a buddy and get skunked three days in a row, then he goes on his own and kills it on the third :( I must be bad luck
Methinks this awesome video needs to have subtitles or be translated into Korean(?), and Chinese(?). It seems that people new to Canada are most often practicing non-sustainable and even disrespectful fishing. ‘Not out of meanness, but out of ignorance of BC residence’s attitudes vs the government’s of their homeland. I would like to believe that MOST anglers look toward interacting respectfully with nature.
I would like to think that too, but then I've seen some people come back to the same spot year after year with the same snagging tactics and leaving garbage every time. No respect for anything really. I don't intend to change people, but just point them in the right direction is they are interested in heading down the right path.
You are correct. I don't remember ever saying anything about retaining wild coho, in fact I often advocate for not removing them from the water at all, just like wild steelhead.
@@petrhermanadventures9509 Nope, you never said that. I just wanted to clarify for my own knowledge as I will moving to the coast next year and am just getting prepared. Thanks.
Most people snag because someone taught them to fish that way. The only real solution is to teach them better ways. No point even getting mad at people, because they're not bad people, just bad anglers.
Last few years? What the hell are you talking about? People have been flossing and snagging for decades! Only difference is there is more people fishing, some would argue its because of social media, youtube and the population boom in the lower mainland.
You're right that it's always been common, but it feels like lately it's getting more normalized. People often don't feel ashamed for being called out over snagging. Over the last decade we have way more people and at the same time have lost a wide range of fishing opportunities. Social media is definitely a force to be reckoned with in the fishing world, but it's neither entirely good or bad.
Thanks for another great video on teaching us about coho fishing on the Vedder
I'm glad you liked it, stay tuned for more.
Thanks Peter. Such a nice guy sharing these infos. Next video, baits and gears…Please.
Coming soon!
respect the honesty “I’m the harvesting my food fisherman”, same for me…never interested in holding up a wild fish for a nice picture, hoping to see you on the river this year
There are many types of anglers, some just want something on the BBQ, some will clip the ends off their dry fly hooks and get a thrill just from seeing a trout take their fly and knowing they could have caught it. I totally respect this diversity of styles, but at the same time playing with a wild creature just for entertainment doesn't feel right to me. It's really complicated, because I also release a lot of salmon, especially chinooks after I've got enough for the year. It's not something that I have entirely figured out yet.
I wish everyone was like you
LOl, a world full of grumpy old fishermen? Thanks for the comment.
Looking forward the the Chum timing video. I'm very interested in harvesting a couple of bright chum with white bellies, which I think come in mid November, after the main push is done. Thanks for such an interesting and informative channel.
I'm not sure I'll get around to covering chum this year. The Coho will be enough work for one season, perhaps next year.
Catching some silver bright Coho on the river is way more fun than catching them in the ocean. We used to have insane Coho fishing on the Cowichan River, during late October and early November they would be coming in chrome. We need quite a bit of rain to get them going on the Island. I'd always fish a few km above tidewater. They were a biting fish, you didn't have to floss them. I'll be trying a bit of river fishing this fall for sure. Cheers Petr. :)
Yes, it's a blast. Our coho are 100 kilometers from the ocean and they're picky. They bite, but you really have to work to make them. It's difficult to limit out, I usually manage a coho limit of 4 just once or twice a season.
Thanks! I have saved some days off that I want to utilize this season. This will be hopefully my first year on the Vedder and this video really helps on where I should put my days off at.
Are the fish generally in the lower part/cannal in the last week of September/first week of October? Not trying to time the run but just trying to get an understanding of where my efforts should be based on the time of the month.
The fish will be throughout the river at that point, from the Canal right to the hatchery. It only takes them a couple of days to swim the river when they decide to move. What part of the river you choose depends on the experience you seek. The fish tend to be more chrome at the bottom, but that's also the most crowded part.
I like this format. Fireside esc talks are fun and informative.
Is the Vetter River kind of higher up? It's interesting because in Washington I would consider peak season to be around now till the end of September for coho; especially if you want them to be Chrome. I continue fishing for them into early November but by then like you said it's mostly fish that are ready to spawn.
The Vedder is near Vancouver. The peak run varies by river quite a bit. We have other rivers just 20 kilometers away, where the peak of the run is two to three weeks later and another one in North Vancouver where there is a summer run of Coho.
Awesome channel BTW.
Glad you enjoy it!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Peter, do you guide?
We're headed up skeena first week October then coming back down your way to fish the Vedder&fraser for coho and chum, we're looking to swing flies but would be interested in other methods you use!
It's something I'm considering for the future, but not at the moment. There are many good guides here in the valley, Rod Toth for example. We have a fly fishing specific shop here in town, called Pacific Rivers, they're afilliated with Loop Tackle and will be able to give you good advice.
Thanks for this
Glad it helped.
Thank you for this video!
Is it the day of the full moon or the morning after the full moon??? (For best day)
Thankyou again
There are extra high tides for a couple of days around a full moon. Usually 3 or 4 "king tides" of "spring tides" The fish use these to push up the Fraser and into the Vedder. Usually 2 or 3 days after a full moon is best, though sometimes fish use moolight to travel at night and that helps too by getting fresh fish to the spot in the morning.
Me too .. I love to KEEP all the hatchary COHO. The best tasty salmon in Canada : COHO 😋😋😋
I think sockeye is even better, but those runs have been largely wiped out by decades of net fishing.
its been 3 years of fishing the vedder and i have yet to land anything but zombie pinks... i must be doing something very very wrong
I did not land a single coho my first year on the Vedder, 2 years ago I landed 80. It takes patience and lots of time on the river, but it can be done. I'm not even all that talented at fishing, but I did spend many years paying close attention to those who were catching. Hopefully these videos will help you catch one.
@petrhermanadventures9509 thanks Petr, I've watched all vids possible and still struggling(just my luck). I'll go with a buddy and get skunked three days in a row, then he goes on his own and kills it on the third :(
I must be bad luck
Methinks this awesome video needs to have subtitles or be translated into Korean(?), and Chinese(?).
It seems that people new to Canada are most often practicing non-sustainable and even disrespectful fishing.
‘Not out of meanness, but out of ignorance of BC residence’s attitudes vs the government’s of their homeland.
I would like to believe that MOST anglers look toward interacting respectfully with nature.
I would like to think that too, but then I've seen some people come back to the same spot year after year with the same snagging tactics and leaving garbage every time. No respect for anything really. I don't intend to change people, but just point them in the right direction is they are interested in heading down the right path.
I thought wild coho cannot be retained, only hatchery coho?
You are correct. I don't remember ever saying anything about retaining wild coho, in fact I often advocate for not removing them from the water at all, just like wild steelhead.
@@petrhermanadventures9509 Nope, you never said that. I just wanted to clarify for my own knowledge as I will moving to the coast next year and am just getting prepared. Thanks.
👍 It’s sad to see the increase in people snagging fish. Hopefully this turns around though.
Watched a shameful display, from a TH-cam channel fishing majors, snagging coho last year. Still post it, with timing and location, during the season
Most people snag because someone taught them to fish that way. The only real solution is to teach them better ways. No point even getting mad at people, because they're not bad people, just bad anglers.
RIGH ON!!
hello there my fishy FRIENDS!
LOL, I forget where that came from, but I'm stuck with it now.
Last few years? What the hell are you talking about? People have been flossing and snagging for decades! Only difference is there is more people fishing, some would argue its because of social media, youtube and the population boom in the lower mainland.
You're right that it's always been common, but it feels like lately it's getting more normalized. People often don't feel ashamed for being called out over snagging. Over the last decade we have way more people and at the same time have lost a wide range of fishing opportunities. Social media is definitely a force to be reckoned with in the fishing world, but it's neither entirely good or bad.