First Day of Federal Prison
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Justin Paperny discusses the {First Day of Federal Prison}.
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GeoffMousseau: Hi, this is Geoff Mousseau with White Collar Vice. We’re here today with Justin Paperny. The reason we’re here today is because this is a significant day for Justin. It was eight years ago, today, that Justin began his prison sentence. So, we’re going to talk today about that first day, and what it’s like and what can you expect. Now, Justin, tell us did you self-surrender?
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Justin Paperny: I did, I self-surrendered. My mom and brother drove me up I 5 into Bakersfield. I lived in Los Angeles and I self-surrendered to TAFT federal prison camp the 20th of April in 2008. I was due to get there. My letter said get there at 2 o’clock; I got there several hours earlier around 10 or 11 o’clock and my journey begin, or continue I should say.
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Geoff Mousseau: So, did you have a last meal on your way up?
Justin Paperny: I did. I surrendered fat, bloated and miserable and angry, and we stopped at this, Carl's Jr. is sort of my last meal. And I have this bacon double cheeseburger, and I was sick and coffee and I just didn’t feel great. So, yes.
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Geoff Mousseau:: Well, what did you do to prepare? I didn't do much, as I've written about I was in denial a bit, and really unwilling to embrace the reality of the situation of it and really unwilling to embrace the reality of the situation that I was going to jail. And, I had eight weeks to surrender and prior to that I was just so fixated on how I felt my life was coming apart; I shouldn't have been prosecuted; I should have been handled civilly not criminally. So, I purposely didn't prepare knowing that would make matters worse. It would have been just too much work to sit down at a computer, to read, to prepare, to study, whatever. So, I went in blind someone in my family made one call to the prison to find out what I could surrender with, said that I could come with shoes and a watch, so of course I went out and I bought the most expensive running watch and running shoes thinking that I could surrender with them, but very little preparations.
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Geoff Mousseau: Did you surrender directly to the camp itself?
Justin Paperny: Good question. I surrendered to the low security prison which is adjacent to the camp. So, to go to TAFT, you go this long dusty road and then you drive into the, you see this big sign, you know TAFT correctional complex and you go down this dirt road and you see the barbed wire, the razor coil, and a huge tract, and I was thinking like wow, this is where I’m actually going to live. And I didn’t even know, because I was so unprepared that eventually I’d be moved over to the satellite camp, but I surrendered and checked in and processed at the low security prison.
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When he said a bacon cheeseburger made him sick, I knew what we were dealing with.
Russell Mooneyham that message made me laugh.
These idiots wouldn’t last one day in the state pen, ding ding they would bitch up and go to protective custody
Hot Diggety Dog shout out to Wes Watson 😂💪🏽 “I want to go to G.P., I don’t think I can make it!” Ding, Ding, Ding! BITCH up
@@hotdiggetydog6509 Ding ding News Flash ! Nobody cares what you have to say about state prison.
Wes Watson is no good,he's a rat and a liar. He was PC'd in mule creek.
This man is my new TH-cam AA sponsor. I need this message so much bc I was a criminal who never got caught but left the life and now work a job I feel is beneath me w self pity and complaining and couldn’t find my voice and through this channel I am finding it. Finally. It’s been a long time working this job I don’t like and whining. But knowing at least I’m free, I make money, I can do what I want. I don’t have family support. Never did. But I have a lot and I needed to hear this straight forward stoic message about how to act and how to think and to stop complaining and whining.
I served 32 months at Pensacola FPC. I would say that the food was actually quite decent, and you could eat reasonably good if you ate the right things in moderation. I actually lost 40 pounds, but not because I starved. Also, the visitation was very good too.
I remember my last night at home, and thinking to myself, "this IS the summit of all my fears". However, after maybe 2 weeks, I was in the groove, and the time really flew by, in my reality. Go, get it over with and don't be eaten up with fear. You will survive and come out the other end with a new found confidence that you can do anything...
StellarBlue1 were you able to find employment and housing after repress. Remember people whether you get probation, 3 months or 3 years remember CRIMINAL RECORD IS FOR LIFE. Every employer, landlord and lender will see this and for majority of people IT FOLLOWS YOU FOR LIFE
*Don't go
StellarBlue1 I needed to read this facing 4 to 6👍🏾👍🏾
I spent 30 months in Pensacola. I feel like we really had it better than most
@@NickLeeds I served 2 years in federal prison from 2007-2009. upon my release I found a job within 3 weeks. If you want to succeed enough you will. I was never turned down for a job because of my record. Housing I was denied 2 times but the third time they approved me. And if anyone does a background check on me none of my federal stuff comes up because it was over 10 years ago.
God bless Justin. Its amazing how he has done good and to help others.
Christopher Herrera thank you for the kind words.
I drove by several prisons in my time, that was enough for me to make the decision to never go there. Work hard, leave the drugs alone, and other peoples money is there's not yours. Yes I have been desperate down and out with a wife and kids to support,. That said, I do appreciate what you are doing for these men and women. I hope you are doing for the hardened criminals as well..
This channel is giving me my life back and my voice back. Holy sh@t.❤
I have to self surrender on February 14 in Alderson West Virginia so thank you
What did you do?
Looks like filing false tax returns. If it's the same Lydia thomas.
Are you still there ?
According to the federal inmate locator, Lydia was released on 12-4-2018. Martha Stewart did her time at Alderson, as well.
Another great video. Clear, concise and informative.
Thank you.
My son is in a low security federal prison and it is nowhere near like the tough prisons you see on TV and in movies. The inmates wear nice looking uniforms that look really sharp. My son landed a job that is physically demanding at times but pays extremely well compared to many other jobs. When we visit him we all meet in a room with plenty of chairs. Along one wall they have all sorts of vending machines for inmates and families to use. We can go outside to a courtyard to get fresh air and talk where there are no guards or other inmates and visitors nearby. He can use email and call home. He has commissary privileges where he can buy all sorts of supplies and food items. I'm so glad they don't lock him in a cell most of the day.
Sounds like rehabilitation, and not punitive torture. Good on you and your son, and I hope that he becomes a better person and rehabilitates.
What state ?
@@DR-xt9ux -- He is in the LaTuna federal Prison near El Paso, Texas. Covid 19 has thrown a monkey wrench into LaTuna's normal operational procedure. The warden has done an excellent job of keeping the virus from spreading.
And that my friends, is the difference between state and federal prison. I promise you, state prisons are nothing like this 😉.
"pays extremely well " is misleading. No one is prison is paid "extremely well." Yes some jobs pay better but no one is "making money" inside.
Before this year is up I'm sure I'll be in federal prison. I just had a second grandbaby and papa won't be able to see them grow. I'm so scared should I just give up on life or go through this I don't know. If you care say a prayer or just wish me well. I sit here scared. God bless you all
@obrbob194 if you were educated you would know about federal conspiracy charges where you don't have to even commit a crime you can just talk about something against the government and that can be a conspiracy charge and carries a 5 year sentence minimum I don't smoke drink or do drugs and that's all I'm going to tell "moron" like you. Educate yourself and see how easy it is to commit conspiracy
@obrbob194
You're the moron, rushing to judgment. Where is your empathy?
IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME ,DON,T DO THE CRIME !!!!!
@@janebook294 when it comes to the Federal government you don't have to actually commit a crime. If you graduated high school look up conspiracy charges and what it in tells no real crime has to be committed just talking about it creates a conspiracy to break Federal law look it up see if I'm wrong I already know I'm not. It's an unfair law to be able to come in to homes hold you hostage and lock you up for 5 years. Had I truly broken a law they wouldn't have left my stockpile of ammo and guns. I could actually turn you in and say you were planning on breaking federal law. I'll get your ip find out where you live find your youtube videos Facebook and let's see if you've broke a crime or may be thinking about it I won't but rest assured I could. You can't mine coz I hide my ip address lol
@@janebook294 Conspiracy law usually does not require proof of specific intent by the defendants to injure any specific person to establish an illegal agreement. Instead, usually the law requires only that the conspirators have agreed to engage in a certain illegal act.
Great video, helpful. Really appreciate you sharing, so much valuable info. Thank you Justin.
I have to report on november 12 carswell
Justin, The process of going through the Justice system has been some of the most difficult times in my life. I felt like the world has abandoned me and it started a whirl wind of major problems. I needed this video to cope with my first day coming on Monday. I would like say I am not anxious but I am. I am going to miss being in my bed, my children and the freedom of everyday life. This has been a lesson that I will never forget. So Monday here I come......This video has told me a lot but the things we don't get is how to be ready spiritually, what to do should I bring the family to the front door, what have I forgotten, and a video on am I prepared? would be awesome. Thanks again for taken the time to give free info.... For everyone else, Justin is helping me blog follow along on my Journey to Tucson.
I just watched the video… I got a little emotional… Made me really appreciate the fact that you are my mentor already . I know that the day I called you I was inspired to do so…This experience will be very different for me because of you and I thank you for that…
Hand cuffs for your protection......wtf ...never does that make since
I going back to watching Wes Watson
I never went to jail or prison, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Wow that sounds great I wanna go to federal prison. I want that gift basket and meet the welcome committee.
No you dont. It all depends on your level. If you are low custody then its not too bad. But if you make it to Fedral prison or medium level prisons then its worse than the state. Real deal gangsters
I just finished watching "My Deal With The Devil" on the Esquire channel. Brave of you.
Thanks for the comment and for watching my TV show.
Ery inspiring. It must have been hard going and living in prison. I can’t imagine. Take ot one step at a time.
I never went to a state or federal prison however I did spend 88 days in county lockup to me it was or seemed worse than any prison because the food was bad. no yrd. to exercise we was locked down inside 24hrs breathing recirculated air it got cold in our cells. it's been 18yrs since I served time. I will never go back to being locked up again that's a part of my life I want to forget.
And you're right. At least from my experience.
What were you locked up for??
I was arrested on 3 drug possessions and with the help of a good lawyer, I plead guilty to a DWI with the stipulation that I do 30 days. Needless to say, I jumped at the offer.
@@wyattcav25 did you do the 30days?
I was a reporter in Alabama in the mid 1990s and saw one County Jail. Looked VERY hot and kind of over-crowded.
Justin, As I sit here in the comfort of my home office, a place where you and I have spent much time together over the past 16 years, it is surreal to think that it was 8 years ago today that you surrendered. Like it was yesterday I can remember pulling up to your office at Crowell Weedon in Encino to meet my new client. With traffic screaming by You slipped into my convertible Audi A4 and I knew instantly there was something different about you. We did not know each other, in fact we had never met, but We quickly became friends and never looked back. Your journey through the criminal justice system has not diminished my admiration and respect for you, but rather it has increased it. If you are looking to emerge from this challenging time in life I would suggest you follow Justin's guide to success. He is the Best at what he does!
Sam Pompeo 😂😂😂😂 poor white guy 33 doesn’t know what was gonna happen when he commits a crime
are you sure it was the convertible Audi A4 and not the convertible Audi A5?
great thank all of You!
You are welcome.
I used to work in an FCI in California. I went in on the bookmobile Saturdays. During the week I went into the county jails. Compared to the inmates at the jail, the inmates at the FCI lived like kings. They wore street clothes. They lived in buildings that were more like dorms than housing units. It was even CoEd at the time and inmates had relationships. They had strict rules about hand holding being the only contact or display of affection inmates could have with one another, but of course they had their ways of getting around that. They had a nicer library than some of the communities served by the county had. They had tennis courts. They had a covered amphitheater where intramural sporting events and concerts were held. It didn't feel much like prison. It looked more like a small college campus. The only indication that it was anything else was the double twelve foot fences topped with razor wire and the guys in trucks with shotguns patrolling the perimeter. I obviously was not an inmate, so I don't know what day to day life was like. But by appearance it just didn't look that bad.
And that's alright by me. Prisons shouldn't be hell holes. The punishment is deprivation of liberty. You shouldn't be tortured living in a shit hole too. If somebody commits a crime that is not violent or that involves small amounts of drugs can be kept confined usinge electronic monitoring. Less expensive and more humane in my opinion anyway. Done.
Dude, this was a cake walk! You oughta try a couple years on Parchman Prison Farm in Mississippi. Or favorite song in Prison was, “Who let da dogs out?”
You were in Parchman?
Justin, as always your videos are excellent. I appreciate your advice you're helping a lot of people.
Randall Pruitt thank you
Agreed @Randall, interesting content.
This is not that helpful. I’ve been sent to prison for selling a gun. You wanna know how to get by and do your time nice and quiet, you need to fall back. Do not make moves until you know the house.
When you first show up you better be ready to put up your front. But you sure as fuck take nothing for free. Pay it forward. Your ass has 25% chance of getting turned out. You didn’t even mention having money for commissary before you go. Or to wash your clothes every chance you can to fade your colors because both COs and inmates use this to fuck with new guys. I mean come on!! You didn’t even tell them what you can take to prison. Nothing about your religious beliefs and rights going in. Acting like it’s so great. Acting like it’s a cake walk and chilling. I see a prime extortion victim in both of you. You would have made my sentence easy by giving me your commissary and doing my details. Yes men telling people about prison. Need to send your asses to San Quinton so you actually have something to sell. Buck 50 and all. If you don’t know what a buck 50 is, you weren’t in prison cupcake.
One thing I wasn’t prepared for is how cold it is. There is No chair that has padding . U are not allowed to sit on your bed after morning count . The chairs and tables in pod where bolted to the floor. We sat on concrete outside to smoke. Absolutely no comfortable place to sit ! It’s very cold!
Slow and steady wins the race.
Federal prison is better than state prison but not everyone has a choice !
Did you?
USA ALWAYS fed is alot worse
That is what I heard as well.
Fed is much better!
@@vinnybotts9713 my uncle was in Leavenworth and he said they played fucking tennis. It was like a country club. Said the food sucked, but hey its prison, not San Juan PR
When I did my time I had the mindset of mind over joint instead of joint over mind. Prison was great for me. I was 23 when I went in and 3 years later my mind and body were right. The joint got me into shape and I was swole!
BIGDAVE5352 congratulations on your productive prison term. I know what you did was not easy.
Ah hell the first time didnt do it for me I was hard headed I did three yrs and 10 yrs later went back did ten more. That caught my attention.all my old friends and most my kin are dead. But im better then I was.
During my 12 year Sentece with I started in a Maximum security prison, I work my way down to Taft Camp, but I really did not like to be there, because there is a lot of snitches there. Some Guards are just acting like they were in a Maximum security facility thinking they are Marshall's. Like Garcia for Example.also Taft they don't offer the classes or the right education opportunities compare to other BOP Facilities.
Thank God that I was send back to a higher level were I finish my time and went to College got a degree and now I'm doing well for myself, I got a great job.
I think he's the only prisoner that's turned up early for prison..
Franny YNWA no my Federal Prison consulting clients also show up early. Maybe I should film a video on why a white collar defendant should show up early.
I did 6 months in county and I am having flashbacks about it. I think I need help with this.
who's not that's Fix it! GN
lol
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial yes please. Why would someone go in early?
I surrender October 2nd thank you for the tips.
J T you’re welcome.
so incredibly helpful.
Thank you.
Ashley Rosen okok
Wish me luck I'm about to do two years at FCI Petersburg
David Alexandrovitch I did 10 at Jesup, Lewisburg, Forrest City, and Butner.
@@user-nq8tr1hw3w you must've been making a lot of money if you were in FCI
MisterUrbanWorld I made paper. Never had millions, or a mansion, or bicks. Enough to live decent. I’m legit now. Driving big rigs over the road with UPS.
Good luck
Still, no place I ever want to go. That's why I go out of my way to keep my nose clean!
maverickdallas100 maverckdallas 100?? WTF??? "Go out of your way to keep your nose clean"???
I don't!! I'm no angel but its called being a good person....... I was gonna say it's not difficult but I guess you & I were brought up differently ???
The irony is that you would not have survived where I was raised!! I'm From Scotland... The Gorbals , Glasgow in the 80's (Google it, it's world famous for all the wrong reasons) but we had manners, not money, and I learned to treat people the way you want to be treated yourself....
I was on the run..in april 2014 from the corupt state of Connecticut..on 5 or 6 missdemeanor charges..I pled not guilty too..I was really not guilty..out on bond..got arrested while out on bond at a torrington ct hospital...for a argument over my health insurance they would not except ....so I fled to NJ and worked for a low life Irish paving co.
ive never been locked up but i was arrested once. just being in handcuffs and in the back of a cop car is so demoralizing. you really feel helpless. i know ppl have had it way worse than that but if what i went thru was that bad i can't imagine being in prison for a long time.
I spent my first 3 weeks in the hole 🕳 because they had no available bed 🛏 space on the pound. Complete hell
Justin Paperny did “soft time” and was surrounded by minimum security inmates who were finishing sentences for non violent crimes - in a facility inmates in other prisons refer to as “Camp Taft” or “Taft Resort.” Good on him for making productive use of his time and using his knowledge to rebuild a professional career outside of prison. No time is ever “easy.”However this video and the whole concept of white collar prison preparation is just more peddling of fear.
i did fed time in at fci la tuna, Anthony texas. got transfers to fort bliss military base camp in el paso. Being a 'street guy' i hated it. to many snitches, to many people being friends with the c.o's. i lasted 4 months while getting into it with west Texas (im from az, Hispanics are nt allowed in texas) i got into it with the piasas. got into it with my own 'homies' because they conducted themselves in a manner that was going to get them hurt in a long run. i got kicked out because i got into a heated argument with the lieutenant and he said i was no longer welcome there.
iamruru3 your a drop out your no homie u think hiding on a white boys video we won’t find u the duck type of behavior would hurt our raza because top dogs and shot callers always come correct only a few years where they fucked up that are clear to point out
You have nothing to fear but fear itself going to a federal camp or low.
We should talk, I have a very interesting story, I did a year in a Camp, Jessup Ga. Jim Bakker was also there. I have a great story.
Don't be fooled he didn't go to prison he went to a camp that doesn't even have a fence. Inmates have left from these type of places and gotten away. If you go to usp or ant level 3 or 4 state prison and you will be in a real joint. Every Fed camp in the country is easy time and full of first timers and low level offenders. Its called a camp for a reason and prison is called prison because it's a prison. This should've been called going to club Fed for the first day.
LOVE this pre-COVID Zoom call
Well said!!
Dude this is straight up, I had a problem in the past and got a lawyer an resolved it all in the right way and it was over until one day I got pulled over with a friend for a rolling stop and they said I had a warrant and took me to prison on a bench warrant on total bullshit. They kept me for a week for no reason at all. They just screwed up my paperwork and never did it. One week I was a true hostage. I have no respect for any of them. Respect is earned not given.
You were in County jail you were not in prison lmao
@@zacharydavenport110 maximum security is where I was.
Don't do the crime, if you don't like doing the time.
I spent 2 weeks in county jail and 2 weeks in state prison. Believe me, the county slam was way worse. Food was sparse and bad. It was cramped and filled with people just arrested and or getting bad news from court,so there were some angry guys just looking for somebody's ass to beat. No entertainment other than cartoons 24 hrs a day.Then in prison, the food was good and you ate as much as you wanted. This is a big deal when you're locked up. The dorm was roomy. There was a large area between the buildings for walking around and there was a library. That saved me. The clothes, you were given were decent work pants, tee shirts, and a lightweight jacket. The pants were hemmed on the spot. A lot of people had a TV at one end of their bunk but it had to be bought through the commissary. There were 2 gangs; one black (The Brotherhood) and one Hispanic (Latin Kings.) The Latin Kings were cool with me. The Brotherhood was aggressive. Each gang "owned" some public phones and one chow hall was "owned" by the Brotherhood. They didn't tolerate anybody Hispanic or white. I was doing 30 days for DWI and ended up in prison and when I got there I was so relieved. I sat on my bunk and read most of the time.
The first day and the last day or the two longest days...
+Jason Mercer yes sir
interesting video - appreciate it! Would be interested in asking you some questions
Go ahead!
This is absolutely ridiculous. Attention!!!Anyone that watches this realize that this type of prison is very rare. DO NOT TAKE ANY OF THE ADVICE THEY ARE GIVING!!! This will get you in severe trouble. It’s the exact opposite of what you should do. This is absolutely ridiculous!!!
The Truth perhaps you can offer specifics on what is wrong? Your comment amuses me. I’ve guided 1,000 plus defendants successfully-with this same advice. It would help to offer specifics with your statement. Your comment is odd and wrong.
I’m not saying in all instances I’m sure there are some camps that aren’t that bad but if you go to anything but a camp it’s a lot different than what you two are talking about. Maybe you should put a disclaimer in that this is advice for someone going to a camp or quote on quote daycare facility not real prison.
White Collar Advice For instance you both are saying that people came up to you and gave you things when you got there. In a real prison you don’t want to take anything from anyone because you are going to be in debt to that person
White Collar Advice I’m sorry I just noticed you are saying white collar crime you guys probably all go to camps I’m sorry I don’t know why I just noticed that this was in my feed and was watching prison channels
The prison at Lompoc, CA has a breakfast pizza that is pretty good --
Mike C. Hey Mike you’re exactly guy want to talk to ! My buddy just got transferred there on Wednesday, what could you say about the place? Is it a wild Prison? What organization run the place?
As a woman waiting for sentence in a federal prison.. I don't think is the same... My days seem gray and cloudy waiting for the day to come on November 19..
Camelia Texana you would find value in a book written by my colleague, Ingrid Okun. Jennifer Myers also wrote a book. Both thrived through their time in federal prison. So can you.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial ok... thanks allot.. for this whole year of courts and process has been depressed.. thanks
@@cameliatexana666 I hope you’re time is served and you’re doing better. If you’re still inside, it’ll be ok and will get better
Fed prison seem waaaaaaaay different than state prison.. Welcome basket lol
Erick Cisneros for the record, I’ve had many state clients also get some items given to them the day of their surrender.
He was in a low level fed prison. Its a much different ball game once you make it to the Mediums or USP fed prisons.
Erick Cisneros they are in a camp not a real Fed prison, fci or usp
Bro james 💯facts. States have work camps like this too. These people have know idea what one of them fci’ it usp like
Federal prison seems like summer camp.
When it comes to the actual "camps" (minimum security) yeah I'm sure they are. But it all changes when you hit medium security and up.
I did 172 days in the county then 153 days in the state both are not good.Get to see some weird shit
TRUMP SMITH like what
Prison isnt suppose to be a vacation. Its suppose to suck. It's a deterrent for coming back
How come we never heard what he went in for?
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Good clear audio.
Don't let the interviewer fool you... Dude put in work... He was a straight g in there.... He was also the units booty bandit.
Lol
I wrote a few stories on Michael Santos years ago. His story, attitude and the life he has built are highly inspirational.
I’m with Michael now. I just shared your message. We both thank you.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial One of the pieces was for the LA market. The other one was published in Spain. Say hi to Michael. Glad to see you’re with him. Happy New Year!!!
Can you tell us more of prison camps! My friend is about to get sentenced federally and swears he will be sent to one and actually is at ease thinking it will be a piece of cake
Janette Astiazaran this video will help him. th-cam.com/video/4XCsXSqWbgc/w-d-xo.html
Spent 24 months at FCC Morgantown and it was a walk in the park
Good to know you had a productive experience.
Kind of confused. Was this guy in a penitentiary or is prison some kind of rich boy slang for a fraternity retreat because none of this sounds that bad.
Hobo Joe The Trucker Hello. It was not a fraternity. You’re correct: it was not bad. What’s bad for a white collar defendant is the time leading up to imprisonment. A prison term is clearly defined with a beginning and an end. The bad part is living in the land of the unknown.
Whi7te Collar Advice
Many, in not most of us live in the land of the unknown all the time in "normal" life.
Good video. I would have liked info on how much you actually slept the first night. I imagine not that much.
billybobb11 he slept none at all
Let me tell ya it ain't like that in a state pen. So just thank your lucky stars.
I can"t stand how these people think they're different from any other criminal.
The host was at Lompoc. Pretty tuff back in day.
I just stopped this and am off to make a small step.
make sure you do your keigel exercises at least 7 days BEFORE incarceration !
Thursday where are
His 1st prison meal was a hamburger? He must have gone in on a Wednesday.
Ceas Malone I surrendered on a Monday, not Wednesday. Food was better than I expected.
Yuuup "Welfare Wednesdays" , usually sandwiches are on the menu 🐺
Is Tuesday taco Tuesday?
And fish friday
Chicken Thursday i hate yankton 😆
Only in America 🏅
Here in the U.K. I don’t think we do this self surrender thing.
Na as we would run away. Lol. Americans are silly sometimes
I have far less sympathy for "white collar" criminals than for non violent "regular" criminals. When a crime is committed out of economic necessity, I can sympathize. Those who are well off and commit crimes for further enrichment should be dealt with much more harshly
Odd Job who do you consider a non violent “regular” criminal?
The problem is that there are so many business aspects that are criminalized. The appellate courts are careful to bench odd numbers of justices because even they cannot agree. Still worse, few laws are ever rescinded, yet more are added every day, not only by legislatures and congresses, but by the myriad of regulatory agencies which have been given the power to create criminal legislation. We don't call them "lawmakers" without reason, and the laws stack up; the code went from a pamphlet, to a book, to a bookshelf to a library, and still growing. Just being ranked in corporate business puts one foot over the line. We're not talking the easily understood common law crimes of rape, robbery, murder etc., but violations of section ABC, Subsections XYZ, as revised 11-times.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial I think the better question is, why do you feel the need to help criminals?
He talks like prison was a walk in the park haha just passively talking about this great life changing experience. 😂😂😂
Check your guest's audio!
“Someday this will be behind me” yep just like the guy with the massive hands and gloves
pelican bay!!!
Sounds almost like a country club
Taft (CCA) contract Federal Camp----
Report Sept 7th, 2016. FCI Williamsburg Camp. 2 day from now. God Bless All.
It's good to be home.
David Hutchinson I think your real punishment starts now with whatever you have on your criminal record. I wouldn't worry as much about going to a camp, what would worry me is what comes after.
It's all what we make of it.
David Hutchinson Glad that you're out. I remember seeing your comment the day you went in and literally it was like a blink and you said you were home.
Questioning Everything That's because we don't rape and kill other people, at least for the most part. Some go to camp just because of a single signature on a piece of paper, and not for gunning down a lot of innocent people. Before you start spewing your black lives bullshit, yes we are "privileged" in that we don't kill each other over a candy bar or a bag of chips. I would not be too worried to spend a night in a cell with somebody who embezzled 20 million dollars, I would just not trust him with my money.
Sound like a lovely experience. Not for me tho.
WTF?? Excited about the experience!!??
Peter Hansen yes that’s correct
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial thats crazy! Ive been to prison a few times. I cant recall at anytime was i excited to experience any of it. I was scared to death!! When i got to my cell i cried like a baby!!
You probably went to a real prison.
I'm confused. The title of this video is First Day of Federal "Prison" It sure didn't sound like the guy was in prison. Sounded more like a weight loss camp.
I'm curious. What did this dude do to be sent to prison? How long was he there for?
bobbyt9999 I plead guilty to a count of conspiracy to commit securities fraud. I served 18 months. Here’s a movie I made with nbc that tells the story of how and why I went to prison. www.whitecollaradvice.com/justin-paperny-movie/
Justin... I have just finished watching your movie. I have to commend for the way you have been so upfront and honest. Now that I know how young you were when this happened makes it a bit easier for me to understand how you might have gotten caught up in this mess. We were all young once and virtually everyone is guilty of not making right decisions at one point or another in our lives. However, as your case proves, some bad decisions are worse than others. Money can do strange things to a person's sense of responsibility and judgement and your experience certainly proves that in spades. I'm not condoning what you did. I'm just saying that the way you finally owned up to it and took your punishment is somewhat commendable. There's no doubt in my mind that you have learned from your mistake in a big way. Thanks for pointing me to your movie. It certainly cleared up a lot of questions I may have had before seeing it. Forgive me if I sounded somewhat sarcastic in my original post. You'd thing that at my age I would have learned by now not to be so quick with my judgment before knowing all the facts. Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
He was pleasantly surprised ? Really ? Rules are don’t drop the soap !
USA ALWAYS considering the showers were private there would have been no consequences for dropping the soap. Perhaps you’ve watched too many movies about prison.
Very interesting discussion. However, your excitement and thrill of the experience seems to degrade the effectiveness of incarceration and prove that confinement does not always work for all people and all types of crimes (as a means of punishment). I may be wrong as this is only your story for your first day of prison but if the stakes were set as high for your overall experience, then I have difficulty thinking that there was much space for deterrence to prevent any re-offending.
Interesting to see that your experience was almost positive. Strong minds make the best of a situation and feed off of it to become a better version of themselves. (Goal = achieved)
Overall, good advice for others going through that same process and great positive mind set. thumbs up.
St-Louis confinement never works it only makes you worse he’s a criminal forever now and learned scams and all types of shit into their
St-Louis exactly.
l got my son in Federal correctional Ray Brook he been trying to see the doctor because he can breathe good though people not doing anything for him he name Miguel Morris Juniors lm his mom lm a sick person l don't know if l going to make it lm 71 years old all l wish l could be with my son
Never met anyone in PRISON that was guilty ! Lol 😂
USA ALWAYS most men in prison, including me, would own they broke the law.
USA Always
Your repeating a cliche that was written by a reporter in a well known/read article who was trying to be clever.
This "clever" cliche untruth has been repeated often since as a sound bite of the shallow, unresearched or just ignorant or uncaring.
What is even more telling is the subject of this article was _going to trial_ and technically was innocent. You know, the 'innocent until found guilty' thing called justice.
So the subject of the article was not even in prison yet, but held in county, as he was still in a state of limbo, that is _unconvicted._
So the reporter was pretty incompetent in the subject, or at least not diligent. Or maybe not intelligent or interested enough to understand the subtleties involved in justice, truth, fairness and morality.
Much like you actually, who in addition commented "...met in prison..." when the actual quote was "...met _a_ prisoner..." So you got that wrong too.
Now you are _mis-repeating_ it to be clever? LoL.
Further, of the fellow inmates I even discussed this with, some were certainly over punished in my opinion for what they did, but only one in county claimed innocence, and not one in prison. Though some people were locked up for some really victimless stuff.
Yes, I was in "prison lite" with drug offenses, DWI's and minor crimes so maybe I never met any "hardcore" felons, but bear in mind that 90% of prisoners are minor felons like the ones I had experience with to begin with.
In prison, in time one's character is very obvious to everyone.
I was/am innocent of what I was convicted of and was believed and eventually quit asserting it as it was irrelevant I realized in a short.
Probably believed because, I figured later, people have time to consider what is heard, what difference does it make day to day as you are in same 'boat' as everyone else and besides, in a closed society lies always have holes for people to discern with time on their hands to think.
BTW, I had brought documents, letters etcetera and tried to show other inmates here and there, mostly not, but when I tried, I discovered no one wanted to see beyond one or two who glanced at my indictment.
I guess no reason to lie because liars _will be found out_ and are garbage in the eyes of everyone.
In prison one is reduced to the lowest common denominator. With nothing to lose. No reason or need to lie. Everyone I spoke who even went as far as to even discuss this subject, copped to their crime.
I’m so confused where this dude went summer camp or prison?🤔🤙☘️
Mark805 it was Prison.
Summer camp for white rich people
brandon frank I’m still amazed when people call it summer camp or a club fed. This video I filmed debunks the misperception that its a summer camp or club fed. th-cam.com/video/4XCsXSqWbgc/w-d-xo.html
I hate the way these guys say they where in prison when they where really at a camp that guy wouldn’t last in a real prison. The same with these actors who commit crimes they just go to camps then say I went to prison
I imagine that no prison is fun but when I see these shows with the worst prisons around the world I just can't believe that in this day and age when we have guy's like Amazon's founder worth 158 BILLION, that we also have prisons in Africa made for 2,000 that hold 30,000 where ppl are getting foot rot and sleeping head to feet and throwing their poop in plastic bags out the window. And in a lot of 3rd world country's these poor guy's are on remand for 4 yrs and haven't even been convicted of a crime, and many are just charged with petty thievery like stealing a shirt from a market and stupid crap like that. Poor dudes!
Awww poor babies
Interesting.
Understand; he went to a "camp"-the lowest of all "levels" of security in the federal system which means there are few-if any actual "criminals" there. These are men/women who never had a fight in their lives. They are the nerds you grew up with. They don't think with their fist-as your average-real criminals do. Martha Stewart went to a camp. A "camp" has no razor wire-or often even a fence. "Camps" have very little in common with actual prisons. Ergo, his advice is only applicable to camps and those going to them. Surprised these guys use the term, "guard," as NO one inside says that. They are called "COs"-"correction officers" or "cops" by inmates. and, if you wind up inside; never ask anyone what they're in for-until/unless they ask you.
so you went to a camp and had a nice time
Welcoming committee 😎( BUBBA) With gift basket. Lol 😂 kind Federal Prison ! Kinder gentler place
USA ALWAYS actually the basket was provided by David, a non violent drug offender serving 15 years for a drug crime. Another victim of our country’s war of drugs. It was kind of him to help me while expecting nothing in return. There are a lot of good men in federal prison. They work hard and prepare to overcome the long odds many convicted felons face upon their release.
Why was this....recommended for me?
What were the unpleasant activities that you observed?
goutvols103 I answered this Quora question about an unpleasant experience: www.quora.com/Which-was-the-dirty-gross-experience-you-had-in-prison/answer/Justin-Paperny-1?share=73663dcb&srid=uI0Xd
I want whatever the hell this guys on!! Makes Prison sound like a summer camp. Lol
he was in a camp huge difference.
I'm sure this is shocking to theses upper class guys, the stripping down of status, diet, restriction of movement, curfew, count and family seeing someone they respected reduced to such a low status.
JohnnyV Val I would say the word was humbling, not shocking.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial your correct. That would of been a more appropriate term. Humbling or Reality Check.
I'm sure alot of these guys never had to live off 100bucks a week in a long time. Now they see how well it can provide you "behind the wall/wire". Hell, lots of free Americans only live off that in the "real world" for food, gas, entertainment for the week. Unfortunately you probably live better in Fed Prison off $100/a week. Then the guy on street
Someone think I'm going to prison ? Don't know why this is recommended for me to watch. Not me