Saudi Arabia’s PIF will build Newcastle United a new Stadium & Sports City & I think I know where!
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- In this video I look at the inevitability of Saudi Arabia building Newcastle United a new stadium and training facilities.
I link their motivation in doing this to their wider economic plan called Vision 2030 and why a new stadium is important to stimulate economic growth in Saudi Arabia.
I also look at previous plans to build a new stadium, why extensions to St James Park are a none starter but also stress and evidence why their motivation isn’t primarily driven by a need for a larger capacity.
My video is heavily researched with supporting evidence. However, I do see transport difficulties around the site I do discuss but believe they can be overcome.
What I’m not doing in this video is stating exactly what is going to happen. Through my research, I hope to stimulate intelligent dialogue about the future of our club, but also to dispel some common myths.
I hope you enjoy the video.
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I have read today the article in the Athletic after an interview with Amanda Stavely snd Mehrdad Ghoudussi. I wish they could have said this in October or a few days ago! 😅
It appears that I’ve got this one wrong about a new stadium, along with thousands of others of course. Just to reiterate as well, the Benton Park idea was a theory based on what seemed like the ‘ducks lining up’.
I’m reassured that there don’t be a new stadium, as I’ve stated three or four times now (including in this video) that I want to stay.
Things could change of course as there are still significant obstacles in extending SJP that Sir John Hall couldn’t resolve and they are even more difficult now. So we’ll just have to see.
I of course haven’t set out to mislead anyone, or just come up with half baked ideas for views, my opinions are well researched and the videos are well meaning and informative as possible.
Having said that, I stand fully behind my opinion that the purchase of a Premier League club is linked to Saudi Arabia’s Vision 2030 wider economic plans.
Please feel free to watch the video as I hope you’ll gain a wider understanding of Saudi Arabia and the difficulties facing any expansion ideas.
Many thanks for your patience and understanding 🙏🏻
Told you I released information to talk sport and sport I was there source April 2020 2 point I stated capacity increased was plan I've seen from pif from source in Saudi Arabia through my twin brother
@@kevinanderson5658 I don’t agree there is a (pre) ‘plan’ to expand st James Park by the PIF. I agree it is something they’ll ‘look into’ as mentioned by MG
Great video hope we get things sorted either by altering the ground somehow, or new stadium whichever. The Saudis will bring their designers in who can build anything. Its all good positive news. Hwtl
No need to apologise you did your research and went through with what you thought was correct at the time.
You’re videos are well put together and you come across very clear and it’s easy to understand, as you say if only knew a few days before their interview! I wish I knew the lotto numbers a few days before 🤣 it’s all part of life and I’ll say again Eddie you did absolutely 100% said or did anything wrong at the time, so keep your chin up and keep doing your work that you obviously enjoy so much as it’s clear to see your a Geordie through and through and you only want the best for the club and our City. 👍
@@Justlookin958 it’s superfluous anyway. The owners were interviewed three days later and said they’re not relocating. I made an apology video 😩
Newcastle fans deserve this. Greetings to you from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
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As a Boro fan I’d be sad to see Newcastle leave SJP, such a distinctive stadium with real character, dominating the Newcastle skyline and being right in the centre of Newcastle. Always cool to see as you approach the city.
Looking at Newcastle's attencance figures, if there were to be a larger stadium built, it would 100% be filled to the brim. The only thing holding Newcastle back from having the highest attendances in England is that ~54000 capacity. Can't wait to see where this goes, while I do love tradition, I do also love progression (and I'm not only saying that cause I'll probably be contracted to do some work on the new stadium haha). Would be great to see some details on the new stadium similar to that of the Arena AufSchalke's tunnel, give the stadium something uniquely Geordie, rather than just being a cookie cutter big stadium.
As I state in the video Scott, it’s not about capacity, there are much larger reasons for SA to build a new stadium.
It’ll be magnificent I’m sure 👍🏻
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You struggle to get a ticket !!!
I'd give an arm and leg to work on a new stadium for the toon, hope it comes off
@@imconfused1237 your comment lines up with your username, Google "Transfermarkt average attendance Newcastle" it's been consistently up there
Great vid Eddie, I’m from south east london but love the city of Newcastle been there a fair few times, been greeting learning about the history as well as the football side of the channel
Cheers Tommy 👊🏻
Great video mate! Im a Norwich fan but always adored the passion of Newcastle fantastic football club!
Thanks Luke 👊🏻
Lukee - City also happen to be the local club to me and has been for nearly 40 years.
However, I was born in N Shields, just along the Tyne River and most of my family are Geordies along with myself. Inevitably I'm a Mag and been so for 42yrs.
Got a lot of time for the Canaries, mates of mine are passionate yellow/green and NCFC have long-deserved a better group to financially rejuvenate not just the club, but also the city, which indeed IS a Fine City. Also has a damn good music scene of which I've been proud to have contributed a little bit to in the 90s and 00s
It's ironic that we always get on well with Norwich fans here or there. Yet the football journalist whos spite and bile started all the media hate towards Newcastle was a Norwich fan. Mick Dennis. Proved wrong in every prediction of our relegation year of 2009, he started all the "deluded" spite ("deluded" ??? For thinking a team with 4th highest average shouldn't be in a relegation battle EVERY SEASON ? Yet Everton fans constantly believe they are one of the "Big Six" and they AREN'T ?) Dennis's quotes were on pee stained bed sheets when Aston Villa fans created a nasty atmosphere between our clubs that hadn't been there before, and is still here now. Villa fans believed the spite and created a hysterical celebration on our celebration. More so than one of the derby opposition being relegated
Yet, there is another football journalist who is the opposite of Dennis. Jake Humphrey has sprung to the defence of Newcastle and its fans - can see what the Guardianista types refuse to
IMO one of the main reasons why SJP is so popular is its city centre location, allowing fans easy access into the ground. It brings a uniqueness that not many other cities have. If you take that away and move it on the outskirts it’ll just be like any other stadium in England. Super league fans say Newcastle is the best city for the magic weekend because SJP is perfectly located. 10 minute walk from the train station, plenty of bars, pubs restaurants hotels etc on your doorstep. That’s why they keep coming back. I think things like that show it is a valuable asset for keeping it where it is.
I’d encourage you to watch the video mate 👍🏻
Very interesting theory Eddy. I have friends in HMRC and the dates being mentioned are around 2027 for all HMRC to be on Pilgrim Street so ties in nicely with a new stadium development. I had always assumed the site would become a giant housing estate but with the Reuben connection I can see how a deal could have been struck for HMRC to go one way and Reubens acquire the old site. Seems a great option. Will be interesting to watch this back in 10 years time and see if it did actually play out this way.
You heard it here first 😅
@@TynesideLife I can already see the Wikipedia page for the new stadium, "First announced by Eddy from Tyneside Life in 2022". I'd love it 😉 if some talented folk could knock up some concepts using the Longbenton site.
@@peterr11 haha! Cheers Peter 👊🏻
Not sure if they would build on Benton Park view after HMRC leave. The public transport there is no where near as good as city centre
Interesting. The Ministry of Magpies…?
I'm not a Newcastle fan but I wish Newcastle all the best. Its going to be fascinating to watch the progress and watch the club grow. The geordies are great people and Newcastle is a great city.
Cheers Stephen 👊🏻
Cracking and breaking content, Sherlock. Due diligence and research very well done mate.. You made my day.. Like most life long Toon fans St. James' is very dear to my heart. However if Newcastle United are to be the sleeping giant that become the dominant club in world football. This is a natural evolution.. Never a dull moment as a NUFC addict !! Fine upload Sir. Keep them coming...
Thank you mate 👊🏻
@@justjohnsmith7330 now say that without crying you absolute nobody
I know we’ve already sold the soul or whatever soul we had to the Saudis but moving out of the city centre to ‘compete’ idk if I can get behind. The ground has been there and will remain after the current owners id like think. It isn’t just a football stadium it’s literally the heart beat and sky line of the entire city centre. Understand may need to do other things to compete but new stadium shouldn’t be one imo.
What are your views on the points I raise in the video?
Totally agree, mate 👍
Firstly got to say this is a great video, very well researched and informative, secondly as a Sunderland fan and a supporter of football in general, It's always interesting to hear about clubs moving to new stadiums. I don't doubt Newcastle could fill an 70 or 80,000 all seater especially with the funds that are now available for recruitment. My personal opinion is that the SoL has a great atmosphere when it's full, but it's nowhere near as good as Roker Park. It might just be my age. I'm sure there's good times ahead for Newcastle United as always I wish you well until we play each other.
Cheers Royston. Three days after releasing this the owners have said they’re not going to build a new stadium 😀
@@TynesideLife that may be a ploy just to keep land prices down
Well lets hope you make it to that date royston, might be a while
As a Gunner I'm quite pleased Newcastle are on the up again, the Toon has had it bad for years. I look forward to seeing the swashbuckling play back, Arsenal V Newcastle matches would be exciting I reckon. Best wishes Geordies, COYG.
Great message cheers mate 👊🏻
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BTW I just noticed "COYG" works for both of us. 🤔. Seriously though Newcastle are kind of a lot of other fans' next favourite club after their own and I'm no different. Huge club Newcastle with the most loyal fans on Earth IMO, gonna be even harder in the Prem now, bring it on.
Worse than years, mate. Decades. Every other similar sized club has won a domestic trophy, most more than once, many every other year. What enrages me, is the media. Most rival fans (apart from the ones brainwashed BY same media) can see and understand. But the vile spite and bile from the media - I'm lost for words.
You should have so many more subscribers! brilliant content and very informative great stuff
Cheers Andrew 👊🏻
I hope we explore every possible option of expanding St James’ before we consider building a new stadium, a new training centre is long overdue though
You need to watch the video mate. I cover all this 👍🏻
Expanding st james is not an option....we need the new training centre....youth academy and stadium all linked together.
@Luke Porcher someone didn’t watch the video 🤦♂️
@@Charlton2010 commented before I watched calm down
Brilliant video mate! Exciting times for our club and our city.
It is Josh 👍🏻
If newcastle relocates St James Park to anywhere other than the city centre it would be a disaster. It would make more sense to take the Hmrc site for the new stadium.
It needs to be a city centre stadium. I don't think it's worth losing the name or the location for 20,000 extra seats.
Having went to Newcastle last year cannot believe how moving the ground can be a good idea that city centre location is unique. You are absolutely selling the soul of your club. Great city and people Newcastle keep it that way.
I’d encourage you to watch the video Kevin 👍🏻
As an arsenal fan living in newcastle I am torn but the fact I loved Highbury but the Emirates kept us in the top half of the table. Sometimes you have to progress and not be sentimental. It has to be done right ,take your time and well planned
Highbury didn’t hold anywhere near what SJP holds ...37,000 ish from memory
@@carlpearson6734 totally agree but it's also the feel around the stadium and inside it. Emirates was a huge update. I haven't been inside St James Park but I have been told it feels run down and needs an upgrade. Around the stadium for me could do with an upgrade to
@@jagenv it’s a nice ground mate and all the new stadiums lose atmosphere… elland road is in need of something but I can see it affecting the noise
We were sold a dream moving to the Emirates, They told us we would be competing with the elite. Highbury could've been extended.
@@vavavoom7856 Highbury couldn’t have been extended there were residential buildings around it and the building was listed it would’ve been impossible to renovate it in any way.
Great summary ,research and hypothesis!!
Things are looking good for the city and it’s great club.
Onwards and upwards 🤞🤞😮
Cheers Ian 👊🏻
Great video pal. Only recently found your Chanel and as someone who now lives down south I love you vloggs about Newcastle and NUFC Thank really great inside.
Glad you like them James 👊🏻
I don’t see Newcastle moving in the short term, but once they establish themselves as an elite European powerhouse with the trophies to back it up, I do see Newcastle moving to a new stadium. I just don’t think it’s feasible for Newcastle to stay at a 54000 seater stadium when, even right now, they fill it up way too easily. Personally, I think Newcastle could build the largest stadium in the country and still manage to fill it up each week. Right now, I think those new owners want to play it a little bit safe with the fan base and earn their trust before doing anything that would divide them. That being said, Newcastle will have the biggest and best training ground in the world I have no doubt about that. It will set the standards for future generations of football club owners as to what a world class training facility will look like
Amazing video Eddie my late mum from Blyth was a Ardent Newcastle supporter wishing you all the best ha way the toon 👌
Cheers bill although the owners have since come out and stayed that they’re not moving 😆
Great video been watching for a while and always more detailed then anywhere else also seeing the views through the roof so clearly an amazing video keep it up 👍🏼
Cheers bud 👊🏻
Chanels growing mate well done. Looking forward to getting myself down to newcastle in the comming weeks to visit my mum
I think you could redevelop St James' park.
Although it wouldn't be cheap.
1st I would develop Kingston Park into a 55,000 stadium that Newcastle could ground share for x amount of seasons, with a view to reducing the capacity once back at St James.
As for St James' I would build over the inbound lane of Barrack Road, similar to What Villa did on their Trinity Road stand, (but bigger) if you have a look on Google maps the Piles and RSJs take up surprisingly little space and could be done to fit into the central reservation.
The 2nd thing I would do is dig down (Similar to what Barcelona did to add a tier on Camp nou when going all seater; again this would be a far bigger operation than what they did at Barca.
Then it would be a question of the correct pitch placement to get the maximum capacity out of each stand, my guess is it would be moved slightly away from Leazes, slightly up from Strawberry place and twisted slightly towards barrack road so taking up some of the car parking space.
Would also make provision for the bottom tier of the new stadium to have safe standing 1 seat : 2 standing.
Or indeed just redevelop the whole Leazes stand to 1:2 seating to standing.
Blimey, I bored myself reading that back!!
Haha! Cheers Jimmy!
The only thing with digging down, when you think of basic trigonometry, you have to spread the whole stadium outwards which leaves significant problems around the Gallowgate and East Stand.
The building over Barrack Rd is possible in theory like you say.
In regards to safe standing, the capacity doesn’t increase. It’s still one seat space, one standing space.
I think about this whole expansion problem alot! I even have a couple of experts in their field contact me who fill in my rudimentary knowledge on this subject.
I suspect they may either have to move stadium in a few years time, or knock it all down and start again by moving 20m West towards Barrack Rd. Then they could increase Kingston Park or GatesheadStadium with temporary stands.
Great message Jimmy 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife Yeah, I think to redevelop effectively it would call for St James' being completely levelled and start again with a blank canvas; even then, I would say it would need to have room for 80,000+ expansion.
Wouldn't be the same in Newcastle with the ground not being there.
Re Safe Standing, In Germany they have an extra step behind the rail seat so they can get more in, (Dortmund seating only for European matches is 65,800, whilst domestic games seats and stands it increases to 81, 500), so what I mean is i would configure the safe standing areas of St James' to the German model from now, with a view in the future the German model may be introduced over here.
@@jhvoojh yeah lots of possibilities! Even with a rebuild, I suspect we won’t have the space to expand past 70k.
From the news I’ve seen on the safe standing in this country, those that are being trialled have had to design safe standing to facilitate the same amount of fans 🤷🏻♂️
What I do suspect though, is probably nothing happening in terms of expansion. When you look at the topic through the lens of Saudi Arabia’s reason for buying a Premier League club, being part of their Vision 2030 economic plans, adding an extra 10-15,000 seats to our ground is neither here nor there. After all, Chelsea are a top European side but have a capacity smaller than ours
Hi Eddy, just stumbled upon your videos the other day and really enjoying the content. I lived in Newcastle 2000-2003 and have followed the Toon since mid 90s. Love your videos, keep up the good work 👍
Cheers Ross 👊🏻
I'm a spurs fan, coming in peace, to wish nufc and the city well. My mum's family is from Fenham, whiteley Bay and Sunderland. Your area of the country deserves the investment, its a great part of the country! Best of luck to your future🤝
Cheers Geoff 👊🏻
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As a London boy living in the north east I found vid very interesting as my Arsenal had the same prob were to build the Emerates space is a premium I wondered were Newcastle would move to if they could not build St James which u have explained in great detail I'm sure when u get your new stadium it will be spectacular
Thank you Hector. 👍🏻
Great video Eddie. I would miss st James park like every Geordie but to be competitive I'm well aware we need to relocate due to restrictions on st James park. I would love our potential new stadium to be like the mercadez Benz arena In the USA which I think is owned by Atlanta.
Cheers John. Yep it’s inevitable and that sounds great!
Why do we have to move to be competitive? Are arsenal looking to move because their stadium ‘only’ holds 60k? We don’t need to move, to say it’s jumping the gun is an understatement imo.
@@Tim_TerninatorSeed I’d encourage you to watch the video mate. You’re bringing up false arguments that bare no resemblance to the video content 👍🏻
Incredibly professional video mate
Thanks mate 👊🏻 I’m not certain I’m right but I don’t think I’m far off
@@TynesideLife I don’t think you’re far off either. To be fair though even if you aren’t it doesn’t matter. I thought I was watching an actual TV programme here it was brilliant, keep it up!
The Cathedral On The Hill is the heart and soul of our great city. A formidably intimidating ground that dominates our skyline. Inside it we have made ourselves the loudest and loyalest fans in the whole country and to move would destroy this. Wor Amanda knows this well as she is now a fan. Just look how Arsenal crumbled when subjected to Eddie Howe's Black And White Army at full roar! We are the 12th man and long may we rule at our beloved SJP!
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Hope all goes well for you great geordie fans, You deserve a great stadium & team, from a Bahamas Evertonian, respect 👍🇧🇸🧢
While stadium being reconstructed where would you play the home games?... If only there was a 65000 capacity stadium less than a 2 hour train journey away 🤔... Murrayfield...... that would be awesome.
Leeds fan here but just wanted to say very interesting video.
Another thoughtful and well presented piece, for the club to evolve into what we all wish and believe it can come, we will have to go walkabout to a new stadium. It makes perfect business sense and this is a business first and foremost. Whilst it would be sad to leave the Cathedral on the Hill for the club to fulfil its full potential it has to go. I accept that some fans will not agree and be unhappy that is to be expected. Also the worry that the atmosphere would not be the same at a new stadium whilst certain clubs have struggled to replicate the old Highbury, the Boylen and Maine Road at their new homes, 2 out of 3 should look at their fanbase and the Hammers are renting an athletic stadium with a running track around it, it does not even look like a football ground. I have no worries about the atmosphere at a new " St James " build it and they come and sing 65,000 + Geordies together what's not to like, unless your a Mackem. Keep up the excellent content, exciting times, reminds me of the KK and Sir Bobby era, you can feel the excitement building even down here, even the football is now worth watching under Eddie and the boys..
Great message cheers David 👊🏻
I would hate to leave St. James’ Park… I understand the probable future necessity to upgrade and move, but there’s something deep, deep inside of me that would HATE it. There’s so much of a connection to that ground for our club. It would feel like ripping the soul away I think.
Personally, I’d much rather they fully upgraded SJP and gave it the facelift you mentioned, and then built a brand new training/academy/women’s team complex.
However, if your Longbenton theory did prove to be true down the line, I would hope they would look to improve the roads and traffic flow around there, because it’s horrific at peak times even now. 50,000-80,000 people would be HORRIFIC.
Good Video :)
Cheers Ted 👊🏻
We just have to get our heads around that SA will want to showcase their own empire
@@TynesideLife I’m sure I could get on board with the idea a little easier if they paraded a few trophies around infront of me first 😉
Arsenal moved from Highbury after 93 years to a great stadium,, be optimistic 😉
Great report, I've been living in KSA for the last 6 years and when the announcement of the takeover was made all my Saudi colleagues were really excited about it. Vision 2030 is a big thing here and as you say there are lots of impressive big money projects happening all over KSA. I love the walk from the train station up to the ground and seeing it sat on the hill as you turn the corner from China town so it would be a shame to see it move but if it gets better and the city can benefit from it then it has got to be good thing. Keep up the good work !
Thank you Paul 🙏🏻
I thought Vision 2030 was all about reducing the world p0pulation? The prediction for the UK is to be only around 15million by 2025. It's to be all done by rolling up your sleeve a couple of times followed by taking multiple b00sters. I'm only repeating what medical doctors have stated for the past 10 years so don't shoot the messenger!
nice one Eddy,your research and presentation is quality. St James Park is the beating heart in the city of Newcastle,match day in the Toon is so special I wouldn't want it to change,look what happened at west ham....
Cheers bud. What are your thoughts on SA wider economic motivations for a new stadium under vision 2030?
Excellent video once again Eddie, great research and very informative as always! Even as a younger supporter (20 years old) it would be difficult to move away from St James for all of the unique qualities that make it a fan favourite not just from Geordies. I do accept that we will progress and hopefully this gives us a different level of pride.
I’m just hoping that there is a real connection between the owners and the fans and that supporters are not blinded by the vast wealth. I hope some decisions will be made in the best interests of the fans like true custodians to really feel part of the journey.
Well said Scott 👊🏻
I so pleased for you Geodies ….through all these trophy less years you’ve turned up year after year in your thousands and thousands….l hope you go on to be the biggest club in the world…..from a Blackpool fan ….
Love the video great stuff 👏🏻
Cheers 👊🏻
Looking in as a man utd supporter be really good to see Newcastle back challenging hopefully pushing city&lfc.few years off but there fans be excited about the future..
Love this channel keep up the hardwork mate, always providing unique nufc content.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Very interesting, informative and clearly narrated. new sub!
Thank you 🙏🏻 although I got it wrong and did a follow up apology video 😅😬
@@TynesideLife oops!😂
Good video mate I hope we never leave St James’s but I think we will as well
It’s inevitable mate 👍🏻
We must protest if they try. We will slowly become Saudi Arabia united
It worries me a little that one of the key factors in Newcastle United being able to fill SJP is it’s city centre location. Moving out of the city would certainly take a lot of attraction away from attending games and a lot of businesses away from the city
I know a lot of the businesses around the Gallowgate rely on match day trade like high street retailers rely on Xmas sales
I articulate and cover these points in the video mate. 👍🏻
I'd find it hard to imagine a business relys on 1 day a fortnight for 8-9 months a year tbh..I'm sure it helps but saying they rely on it, I think is a bit ott.
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Esp when up until lately we been getting pumped most weeks.
I'd also say that the bars would be busier even on away days but I still think your point is right regardless
@@nicestguyinhouse6112 no, I know for a fact that some businesses located around SJP only survive because of match day.
There’s 20-24 NUFC games depending on cup draws and including the pre season friendly. There’s also been the Magic Weekend the last few years
I know at least one independent business near SJP (that isn’t a pub) has it’s takings increased by at least £6,000 just because it’s a match day.
Taking these modest figures - £6,000 x 22 NUFC games = £132,000 and a Magic Weekend can yield more £20,000 in additional sales. Missing out on £150,000 per year could cripple 50% of the businesses in the immediate vicinity of SJP
@@atourdeforce when you consider that most of the high street retailers only survive because of sales at Xmas it becomes much easier to understand
Very good video delivered by a lad who does his research thoroughly.
Cannot really argue with anything you stated 👍
Cheers Glen 👊🏻
If the fans are happy then the ripple effect is what we are seeing, there isn’t anything more important to newcastle right now than the magic of now, owners come and go, let the good times roll
Loving the content mate! Keep it up!
Cheers Wes although I got this one wrong 🥴
@@TynesideLife how come? It was very interesting but I do hope they don’t rebuild. Im happy with our Castle.
@@wesdryden2086 three days after I released this video the owners were interviewed and said they’re not moving to a new stadium
Im surprised this video is still up after the error of judgement and apology you did.
Great content lad
It’s all part of my story bud 👍🏻
in 3:57 al jawhara Stadium in Jeddah city , built by Aramco in 390 Days !! can you imagine that !! Opening in 2014
Cracking vlog, makes a lot of sense 🙏🏻🤞for a new stadium
Cheers Adriaan 👊🏻
Great video Eddy and some very interesting and plausible theory's.
Cheers Paul 👍🏻
Newcastle united need to be in the city ,so many businesses relie on match day,alot of pubs especially survive because of matchday,Newcastle United is unique because its in heart of city
You haven’t watched the video Paul. I’d encourage you to watch it and hear your thoughts as you raise a point I comprehensively cover 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife I have watched video ,I don't what u mean,by that,Tyneside Irish center totally realise on match day,
Yet again, Sunderland fan here and to be completely honest you are the only Newcastle youtuber I can watch, I like how you have a thorough explanation with everything you say backing it up showing you do research etc, well not gonna like I did watch the true geordie, but only for the rage he put out when yous lost lol
Thanks for the kind comment mate 👊🏻
Don’t know if you’ve read this article on the Chronicle website? But according to them, Mehrdad done an interview with The Athletic saying there’s no intention of building a new stadium, but they would prefer to expand SJP if possible & they’re currently in talks with Newcastle City Council.
I’m not trying to undermine your good work, in fact I’m enjoying your content & have now subscribed.
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Yeah I know mate cheers. I’ve done a follow up video 👍🏻
If expanding the gallowgate to mirror the leazes end which would increase capacity to roughly 65,000 isn’t enough and the toon feel it necessary to build new, then forget Longbenton, the toon need to stay in the city and the best location would be the arena site ! Then afterwards st James can be redeveloped and rebuilt into a new arena !
The Gallowgate can’t be expanded due to developments behind the stand and due to the Metro tunnel under the South West corner preventing pilings. The East Stand can’t be heightened due to the Listed buildings behind.
The Arena land is being developed for a housing complex and hotel as we speak.
Three days after I released this video, the owners declared that we’re not moving.
In order to build a bigger stadium they may need to knock it down and start again.
@@TynesideLife I agree it would be difficult to expand the gallowgate end, but not impossible kidda, todays modern engineering has accomplished way bigger feats, modern materials and methods can also get over the light problem at leazes terrace allowing a second tier to be added, we live in an era of fabulous modern construction and building techniques, nobody wants to see us leave SJP as it is part of our soul ! Sometimes you just have to think outside the box and never say never ! Anyway the most important thing at the moment is to build and improve the team 👍🏻 HWTL
@@michael6401 I’m in communication with experts in the field bud. They inform me it’s a none starter 🤷🏻♂️
There is no space to build an extra tier on the Gallowgate as you’d need to have it similar to the Milburn Stand.
I’ve heard the East Stand idea before but nobody has articulated a plausible way around it. Any material will obstruct the light and of course, to build up you need to extend back. This encroaches on the structural environment of the buildings behind.
All romantic ideas bud but I’m still waiting to hear plausible solutions.
Anyway, this is several years down the line and you’re right, the team needs to be built snd the owners are planning our new training facilities. Check out the video 👍🏻
Would love a new modern stadium but needs to be in the heart if the city or within a mile of the center which doesn't leave much land apart from the town Moor which will never happen.
You didn't mention Gosforth park. I believe this is more likely to be the most location of a new stadium. Along with the race course with no planning issues with residence
Three days after releasing the video the owners stated that we’re not moving.
In any regards, they can’t build on the racecourse as there’s a racecourse there and Gosforth Park is already spoken for.
Showstoppers aside - I just wonder if it's ever been considered before and that is to build a new stadium in Leazes Park, but then in exchange give the old St James Park land to the council so that they can extend the remaining Leazes Park into this new space. The new space could then be so designed similar to Kensington Palace Gardens in London, this would unblock and enhance the classical grandeur of the Leazes Georgian Terrace and being that much closer to city centre will encourage more public use - can you just picture this, pimms and brown ale in the summer!
Lippy, you’re about the 1000th person to mention this snd you can’t. Leazes Park is listed land snd can’t be just ‘moved’.
Since I talk about land that can’t be used in the video, including LP, I’d encourage you to watch it 👍🏻
It wasn’t Leazes Park George, it was the land NW of it next to Spital Tongues
@@GBDT it was Castle Leazes the location of the proposed stadium and Leazes Park was going to be the name of the stadium 👍🏻
Leazes Park is listed land.
Ayy, glad you made this video!
What did you think of the points I raise?
@@TynesideLife I think it's a really well thought out video, but i really feel like there would be some fierce opposition, since it would be built in an area surrounded by housing. The noise for one wouldn't be too pleasant, as you can hear st james from a mile away, and the locals would not want that, but i am sure some trees will sort that out.
Overall, really good video, keep it up!
Really interesting this mate. Fingers crossed
Cheers Martin 👊🏻
Great Video Eddy, yes it will be interesting in years to come to see where the ground ends up ?Benton park maybe not a bad idear for the future
Cheers Paul 👍🏻
I thought the same thing and told my work mate Newcastle supporter. Best thing that could have happened to Newcastle. Good times a head. Onwards and upwards.⚽️
Great video as always, whatever happens with a new stadium I will have to make my first pilgrimage to St James Park before they move
Don’t worry, you’ve got about 5 years by my estimation 👊🏻
I'd have the new stadium and training complex all on the same site maybe bars/pubs restaurants too for fans
Not going to happen Andrew 🤷🏻♂️
There’s also the possibility of turning the pitch 90 degrees, which would allow us to extend the gallowgate without actually needing anymore land. It’s all in an article by The Evening Chronicle online 👍🏻
You need to watch the video mate. It makes no sense to the content 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife It does and I have watched the whole video. The idea of expanding the stadium but rotating the pitch is very similar to what Tottenham have done. These plans have even been seen by Staveley as well. I'll attach the article below for you to look
Brilliant video , very informative as always 👍
Cheers bud 👊🏻
Excellent video Eddie! Thought provoking to say the least.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Another excellent video, keep it coming
Cheers Alan 👊🏻
As a Chelsea fan, I used to love West Ham away at Upton Park. It was scary, electric, supercharged atmosphere. The new stadium at Westfield, Stratford by comparison is a dull corporate day out. The polar opposite of the Boleyn ground. The magic, the atmosphere and ethos is gone. My wife and daughter want to come nowadays, so they can go shopping whilst the game is on.
St James is a very special place. Away to Newcastle has always been similar. Brilliant atmosphere. Awesome.
Be careful what you wish for.
I feel very sorry for the new generation of West Ham fans who will have never experienced the Upton Park experience. It would be horrible if that happens to Newcastle. At least a new stadium at Benton Park (where I visited many times in the past for work with HMRC/DWP and where I met my wife) would be built as a Football Ground rather than an Athletics Stadium. I agree, it is an ideal (massive) site.
Great message Dill. I’ve changed my view since, in light of more information.
I believe we’ll stay at St James’ Park and make modest expansion to the stadium up to around 60K
Love your videos. My lass watches emmerdale and i watch you haha
You need to get a new lass mate, she’s crossed a line 😃
Spot On, you are the 'The Geordie Prophet' X
Three days after I released the video, the owners declared that we’re not moving to a new location 😅
Just need a safe standing section at St James to increase the capacity. Can’t imagine not going to the city centre (Toon) to watch Newcastle won’t be the same at Benton there’ll be no atmosphere before and after games like you get in town.
I’d encourage you to watch the video mate. The video has nothing to do with capacity 👍🏻
Trouble is it will not be empty, only HMRC are moving, DWP are staying as well as other agencies. I would put money on the rest of DWP to move from Tyneview Park to Benton Park view, and leave Tyneview Park open for developement, which is right next door to the training facilities.
Hi Trevor, yeah I’d read about that and factored it into my theory. We’ll just have to see what happens 👍🏻
Well, they've said they aren't moving. Personally, I'd prefer they moved to a 75,000 ground, state of the art similar to the excellent Tottenham stadium. Apparently SJP is going to be upped to 60,000 (I remember when it was 60,000 was in a 58,000 crowd Ujpest Dozsa) up to possibly 65,000
Yeah they announced that three days after my video 😩
They’re going to face significant obstacles to extend SJP where it stands, which I’ve detailed in a couple of videos.
I think it’s more likely they’ll demolish it and move it 20 metres (approximately) West closer to Barrack Rd and increase it to 65-70k. Although that’s just an opinion.
I’m looking at their ideas for a world class training complex on a par with Leicesters and where it might be. It’ll need to be 80-100 acres
Fantastic video mate ... this makes a lot of sense.
Cheers bud 👊🏻
@@TynesideLife 👍👊
What you say makes sense but who knows what will happen. There is no room to expand St. James. I suppose they could tear the entire thing down and go for a new ultra-modern stadium on the same site but that still leaves the same problem. As big as St James is, new stadiums with 60000+ capacity have a much larger footprint so they will still be limited to not much more than what they have now. The new ownership seems to have large ambitions and the idea of them building a showpiece stadium seems in line with other Saudi projects. One thing I wonder is would they really leave St James standing or would the land be sold or developed into something. Bear in mind the real estate developers referenced in the video rarely do things out of the good of their heart and if they have the rights to the land where a potential stadium could be built why build a stadium on it when it's more profitable to build something else unless they have an agreement in place to get a choice piece of land in the downtown. Just like the area, St James is built on. Just a thought.
Thanks for the message mate. The difficulties rebuilding SJP is where would we play for two years? That’s a show stopper for me. Also, bare in mind that this isn’t about capacity, it’s about a statement, a visible representation of SA to help generate revenue streams IN Saudi. That’s why they’ll use the land (wherever it ends up) to build a stadium.
Cheers bud 👊🏻
@@TynesideLife I honestly think that Benton Park View will end up as a giant housing estate with St. Mary's School getting an extended playing field. NUFC might have to consider the unthinkable and relocate to N. Tyneside or Northumberland
@@andrewswift9039 possibly mate 👍🏻
Really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work ! I think though that there is a piece of land right in the city centre that could house a 80k stadium which nobody is talking about and for me is the perfect answer. There is currently planning permission for a housing development for the site, but I am sure this could be resolved with some finance and negotiation. The site in question is the old lead works down on the Tyne next door to the old Newcastle arena which is very shortly closing.
Imagine that site with a huge stadium right on the banks of Tyne with great access to the City and the Central Station...
It would be an amazing site
I discuss this in the video Mark. It’s not going to happen, other than in monopoly world
Only problem building in Benton, is the transport links.
The metro is not fit for purpose and the roads of the A1 are small to cope with extra influx.
The metro would have to run like the London underground.
I.e. one every 4 minutes or so, also the lack of pubs 3 at the four lane ends about a mile away, 2 at South gosforth.
Also it's in the middle of houses .
All these problems are easily overcome, plus they’ll have alcohol outlets at the site 👍🏻
Very good vlog Eddy. The North East is the place to be. Lets hope everything picks up for everyone.
Cheers Robert 👍🏻
Either level off St james to the same height which is difficult, or build a huge one near the airport. The one problem about the town is actually getting there. Either bus or a taxi isn't great I'd rather drive to a stadium with a huge carpark since I'm not fussed about alcohol.
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Well researched! 👏It will be fascinating to see what they do.
Definitely Ryan 👍🏻
Great blog lots of good info moving into the future.
Cheers John 👍🏻
Have to be a 80,000 plus stadium at least to satisfy demand. All the best lads from Sheffield United ⚔️
Fascinating Eddie that's some plan and I always watch to the end shared as well
Thank you Paul 👊🏻
@@TynesideLife Benton area is huge my friend I use to drive past it on buses
Hello Eddie, I think you have an interesting theory there about any new stadium development location. I was convinced at the beginning when I heard that the Reuben bothers (and Jamie) were involved, that they would be the property people/experts, and that they had some plans. The HRMC deal was publicized a while back and it makes sense to move workers into the city centre.
The three sets of partners seem to have a good synergy between them that cover all aspects of running a 21st century football club: Amanda Staveley as the face of the club, and PIF the big money investors, and the Reubens infrastructure/property.
As a kid, I made many visits to that big ugly building on Pilgrim St, just opposite Hood Street, the one that articulates over the road, where my father used to work. I'd be very happy to see that monstrosity disappear.
BTW now subbed.
/edit/ oops, I should have read your pinned post before I wrote this. Never mind.
😂 yep. I was completely wrong! 😅 you may be interested in my training complex video though. I think I’m closer to the mark
Any new stadium development is not driven solely by capacity. There are far more significant economic factors for Saudi Arabia to build a super stadium.
This video explains why and I discuss a possible location.
I wish anything that will happen is what u guys would like
Hey Eddie, I’ve been following your vlogs for a few months now and hats off to you on the content very balanced and a great showcase for the region and the club along with the way you engage with the local businesses and community.
This is a long one so stick with me.
Now the potential new stadium. I think your 100% right that the new owners will want to build a new stadium and sporting complex for NUFC. Saudi Arabia in all there ventures make statements to the rest of the world about how they do things. Look at the building and infrastructure which you featured in your Vlog. NUFC will be no different they want the club to be the biggest and best, and that will include stadium and associated facilities where we will go and spend money.
I am a life long fan and love my pilgrimage to SJP for every home game and more recently now with my son. However I want to see us become the very best we can be and that will mean we need to move ground the cost to renovate and expand SJP will be eye watering due to the complexity. And the PIF will be looking for good return on investment which will not be fully achieved at SJP, to some this may be controversial but, however it is about economies of scale. In this day and age a new stadium complex is likely to cost between £1 & £2 billion capital expenditure. If PIF are going to invest that sort of cash, they want something which will reflect that investment.
This is where you start to look at the hybrid super stadium villages which incorporate not only the stadium but training medical and other offshoots of the club such as the winners team, the reserves and juniors etc all playing in 10k seater sister stadium. Along with that they will also add hospitality and even leisure and shopping potentially. A good example is NEOM which is being constructed for VISION 2030. A smaller version in Newcastle would be awesome for the region and the city. Also look at the recruitment of Dan Ashworth is not a coincidence, he is being brought in to shape this sporting complex, similar to St.George’s park. As well as all player recruitment and creating a NUFC DNA.
So the site, the idea of the ministry land is very interesting and one which I had not considered. However the location does have issues with road transport links in all directions and the surrounding housing belt. It has the size potential to house a sporting complex but I’m not convinced it would get the support.
But, I do agree it may have a part to play in a potential site which may have buildings on it which could be used and the ministry site is used as a barging offer to other developers for prime residential housing to allow another site to be made available. I initially thought next to the race course, but looking further into that I’m not sure if that has the scope, although I’m no expert.
My hunch would be that they look at a potential redevelopment opportunity an a large scale in an area of Newcastle or surrounding which they would look to transform over a longer term plan. Similar to how Man City developed there training village and then surrounding area. It depends on where this could be. Barring the area you already mentioned could the Byker riverside area become part of a larger scale project? Could they look at the royal quays area in North Shields.
To sum up Eddie, I’m on your wave of thinking and agree a stadium move is likely and needed but where is the Billion dollar question. Keep up the good work and hope to meet you on a match day some time 🏴🏳️👍🏻
Great message Lee and thanks for taking the time to send it.
I agree the road network is an issue but I wouldn’t see that as the main way to get to the stadium. I’d see increased public transport and park n ride mainly.
I of course am not stating that I’m 100% convinced about the site but it ticks s lot of boxes and with the RB connection to pilgrims Quarter, it opens a lot of doors for development.
I’ll have a look at the other places you mention Lee and thank you for being balanced with your views 👍🏻
Absolutely quality video mate !
Cheers Dave, we’ll just have to see how it unfolds now 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife it still just feels like a dream. After the crap we had from Mike Ashley, to think within 10 years we may be watching champions league football at a mega state of the art sports city is just mouth watering. Although saying goodbye to St James will be a sad day too.
I always think a team loses part of its identity when they move grounds (Sunderland and Middlesbrough spring to mind) but much as I hate to admit it SJP can't be developed any further so the time has come to move. Such a pity that the Arena site has gone, that would have been great. Longbenton never even occured to me but now you've mentioned it things do make sense. I see in the comments that someone has mentioned moving up by the race course. Seems like another possibility but Longbenton looks like a better bet. Interesting times!
I agree mate. It’ll be a sad day too. But remember this isn’t about capacity, this is about Saudi Arabia building their own
Need to stay in town centre for me like
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Very interesting - but I would not want to see a move from SJP under any circumstances. It is the entire history of the club. It is bad enough to have foreign ownership - whichever country is concerned. But if it is another ground then it just becomes a different club for me.
Please see my pinned comment 👍🏻
Great video....very interesting 👍👍👍
Cheers Simon although three days later the owners announced that they’re only building new training facilities and not a new stadium 😩
Very interesting…think you might have something there….another good vid thanks eddy 👍
We’ll see I guess but I like to research and join the dots… 👊🏻
The only football ground ive ever bn in is st james park with an old friend and a few buisness people he knows we were up in the executive boxes well one of them with snacks etc drinks delivered to ur seat . I loved it even if im not a footy fan as a rule but i do follow the toon ups and downs . I hope they do get a great new statium to boost the economy jobs etc all the best for the future great vids by the way ive bn comin to newcastle and morpeth since i was around 13 years old to go with a family friend in his truck into europe etc love the city and the folk . Made loads of mates had countless laughs . And a few tears over the years im 53 now so its bn a minute or two . Lol . Pls take care eddie have a great week man .
Thank you for the great message Ian although three days after the video release, the owners said they’re not building a new stadium 😅
@@TynesideLife typical but watch this space i bet they announce it that they are gonna build one in the near future . I agree they cant extend as is . Beacause of certain space issues . But its high time they had a new greenfield site stadium one with enough parking and facilities to meet the modern era . Plus bein able to be used for many purposes like a truly modern stadium should be . This is just my humble oppinion and i know the wrench of moving from the site from which . Theyve bn for many years . But commerially and goin forward in time regarding develpments and traffic etc a move outside the city as some other scottish teams are in the process of planning etc would make total sence . I mind years ago for instance st johnstone in perth moved to a brand new stadium on the outskirts of perth when they did a deal with asda to build a totally new stadium in return for the old site . It redovelepoed the whole area where they once were and it caused much better traffic flow people stayin locally didnt worry about crouds milling around etc etc it just made the area much more free on match days. Plus in newcastles case it could still be called st james arena maybe or something similar . .
@@ianinnes8063 well said Ian 👍🏻
I do believe you could well be right!!! But hang on a minute. 68,000 fans is our record attendance. The stadium now dwarfs the old one. Surely the answer is safe standing on all lower tiers. Or just standing and less of the safe. God I miss the good old days when you could hardly see the game and the floor was covered in piss and beer and when the ball hit the back of the net it was absolute pandemonium. Blissful times
Haha! I miss standing too but this isn’t about capacity. It’s about an empire for SA to call their own snd showcase