The Afghan Whigs live | Rockpalast | 2017

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  • The Afghan Whigs live | Rockpalast | 2017 | Setlist
    01. Birdland 00:00:00
    02. Arabian Heights 00:02:15
    03. Matamoros 00:06:23
    04. Fountain And Fairfax 00:09:18
    05. Lights As A Feather 00:13:07
    06. You Want Love 00:16:32
    07. Oriole 00:20:39
    08. Toy Automatic 00:24:30
    09. Can Rova 00:28:51
    10. Algiers 00:34:40
    11. Going To Town 00:38:28
    12. Demon In Profile 00:42:23
    13. It Kills 00:45:27
    14. John The Baptist 00:48:28
    15. Somethin' Hot 00:54:07
    16. Faded 00:56:50
    Greg Dulli - vocals, guitar
    Jon Skibic - guitar, backing vocals
    John Curley - bass, backing vocals
    Rick G. Nelson - keyboards, violin, cello, backing vocals
    Patrick Keeler - drums
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  • @juliodelvalle1308
    @juliodelvalle1308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I love this man's voice so much! He just keeps getting better. Beautiful songwriting and a pure, raw, real honest rock band!!! Long live Greg Dulli and the Whigs!

    • @davidtaylor6663
      @davidtaylor6663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agreed. he has become the best in the rock world sincerely

    • @johnwoodward7609
      @johnwoodward7609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      too bad the crowd has no clue what mastery is happening right in front of them....legends... regardless of the lame audience.

    • @jeffparker7449
      @jeffparker7449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whigs 4VR!

    • @herbie747
      @herbie747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was flat for most of the songs. What are you talking about? He can't hit the notes anymore. 36:20 - he's dying here and the notes are flat.

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidtaylor6663 That's probably why they chose him to be the voice of John Lennon in the Beatles movie "Backbeat".

  • @davidtaylor6663
    @davidtaylor6663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Now that is a rock band. Best in world.

    • @guilhermegarcia8750
      @guilhermegarcia8750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It doesnt get more rock than this.

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guilhermegarcia8750 You are 100% correct. I've been seeing their concerts for 25 years, they are still my favorite live band.

    • @fabyshchetnkvn7577
      @fabyshchetnkvn7577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      saw them right now in Berlin live. There absolutely insane. Most underrated band I know

  • @deathmetaldouglas69
    @deathmetaldouglas69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I did not pay that much attention to his music in the 90's and boy I was missing out.

    • @mrnatelygrisse
      @mrnatelygrisse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks to a couple movie soundtracks like American Pie 2 and She's All That, at least some of us noticed...

    • @guilhermegarcia8750
      @guilhermegarcia8750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big time

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guilhermegarcia8750 I agree, they are just amazing. Not sure if you seen them live, but if you get the chance, do it. You won't ever forget it.

  • @loreranfagni3772
    @loreranfagni3772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Gentlemen and Black Love albums are music masterpieces..... everyone should know the Whigs!. Keep on rocking guys!

    • @jcr1231
      @jcr1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maravillosos. Perfect!!!

    • @ElMondial
      @ElMondial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First, Congregation (better than both?)

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ElMondial I agree. I love all their records, but Congregation and Up In It are the most intense. Still my favorite live band of all time.

    • @glennhalila8279
      @glennhalila8279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm from Cincinnati and a friend of mine from High-school was their original Vedeographer. I just accidentally found this video. I feel lucky, because this is my favorite Band and I love these guys! I really like these guys. They were all good guys. Greg Dulli has so much talent and the band is so good after all these years I'm talking since the 80's and 90's! The Bass Player is a really personable guy and so is Greg. They were always regular guys never a snobby attitude and accepted praise gracefully! I always considered them my friend's!

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@glennhalila8279 I love hearing stories like that. In interviews they are always so funny and personable, it's just a bonus that their music is some of the best of that last 30 years. Greg was also the voice of John Lennon in the Beatles movie "Backbeat".

  • @dielel9268
    @dielel9268 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of the most underrated 90s bands!!!

    • @bossanova
      @bossanova 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. Not a Band - it's Dulli. And it's magic.

  • @wojtekdabrowski7531
    @wojtekdabrowski7531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This version of “Faded” made me cry...What a band...Hope I see them live someday.

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You and me both. I can't see them live without openly weeping. Greg Dulli is a master songwriter.

    • @brianewing5778
      @brianewing5778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope that you both got to see them cause they're f***ing amazing live!!!! Saw them play for the Black Love tour and it left my friend & I speechless for a good 5 block walk as we tried to process what we just witnessed!!!!

  • @chuckdriver8269
    @chuckdriver8269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John Skibic’s slide tone at the beginning of faded is absolutely spot on, classic Afghan Whigs. I know it’s “I can’t make you love me” by Bonnie Raitt but it is “1965” era Whigs slide tone nailed! I see why Greg brought him into the fold! 🎸🇺🇸

  • @nicknakatsuka4831
    @nicknakatsuka4831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Holy sh*t that opening to Faded! And the add of Last Goodbye to Can Rova. Unreal!

    • @kellycolon8136
      @kellycolon8136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Bonnie Raitt!

    • @nicknakatsuka4831
      @nicknakatsuka4831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kellycolon8136 no one can do a cover like Dulli!

  • @joaopgrferreira
    @joaopgrferreira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dulli and the Whigs are and always have been - gold!

  • @repairdrive
    @repairdrive 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just when you think the Whigs are rocking hard enough they bust out the violin. 😊😊👏👏

  • @waynehill8443
    @waynehill8443 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    One of the few bands who adhere to the policy of "Take No Prisoners" when they hit the stage.

    • @jkempf71
      @jkempf71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially when the flash photography gets going.

  • @igorsanmartin7654
    @igorsanmartin7654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is real music! Rock Music!
    Cheers from Brazil!

  • @kyleharris7154
    @kyleharris7154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic! Afghan Whigs are one of Cincinnati’s greatest exports 👏👏👏

  • @GordKapasky
    @GordKapasky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My personal post breakups music generator. The man is a treasure.

  • @missnordstern2119
    @missnordstern2119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How much I love them, the best alternative rock band in the world, "Algiers" the most beautiful rock anthem ever! Rebel on! ♥♥♥

  • @sharonlee4773
    @sharonlee4773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hes turned into a 1950s Italian pizza restaurant owner\gangster but I still love him!

    • @saintjabroni
      @saintjabroni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @BadLuckLuke
    @BadLuckLuke ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cheers from Greece Dulli!!! 🔆🔆🔆

  • @comando36gye
    @comando36gye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    amazing how live performance sounds so precise...exactly like studio version but wilder

  • @sidneymartin7346
    @sidneymartin7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was 16 and listening to some random music with my ex-boyfriend. It was during the days when CDs were just beginning to get a popular, and they had disc changers (showing my age here). My boyfriend fell asleep and the CD that played was Congregation... I was blown away. I stayed up listening to it and discovered that I fell in love with Dulli that night and not my boyfriend. 🤣🤣🤣
    I'm blessed to live close to Cincinnati, so with that city being his hometown, I have been able to see many Whigs shows as well as Gutter Twins, and The Twilight Singers (personally I believe the album Blackberry Belle is his best work ever. If you havent ever checked out The Twilight Singers, you should today!).
    I've met him 2X. First time it was at a Gutter Twins show and he seemed to be your typical absorbed celebrity, but 2nd time went much better. I actually stole his setlist paper taped down at his feet. I absolutely love Greg Dulli and The Whigs, one of my all time favorites... forever. ❤

    • @markspencer2833
      @markspencer2833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I went to school with him... I'm in the Debonair Vid....he's actually from Hamilton, just North of the Natti.

  • @glennhalila8279
    @glennhalila8279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Light as a Feather is so spectacularly good! Greg Dulli still has Beautiful Voice. I remember when they played at Bogarts and the Top Hat in the Beginning. I was there. A Friend of mine from High-school was their Videographer in the Beginning. What a Great Band! This is an Excellent Video. The Music is still as Great! I always want to Dance to this Bands Music. Good Beat Great Musicians and Great Vocals!

  • @grahamak22
    @grahamak22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Masterpiece concert.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @dersinger9853
    @dersinger9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    look listen and here is an little inside Story: Wow, one of the lifetime concerts. They were so unbelieveable good. Pure grace to be there. The crowd wasnt dead at all. But of course a lot of work to do for an old time enthuisiastic to run around and shout they have to enjoy, cause they only later will realize wich huge impact and deep soul this sound have. Whatever, i am feeling blessed to see that there are still humans outside which share the same vibe. love to you all, who know its only out of space when you can litsten to it again and again, and discoverering everytime somthing new within you. In this sense we - the crowd are part of the vibe- an i swear i gave everything, just like it would be radiohead. Hope u also checked out the twillight singers and other projects of gregg. stay open hearted an loving oldering dudes

  • @rebelonmyside
    @rebelonmyside 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. Still love this music after all this years. Great live performance. Thank you gentlemen

  • @TMoody
    @TMoody 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man.... I'm loving that drummers high hat work!

    • @samim8628
      @samim8628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Patrick keeler is the best drummer! Gotta love it!

  • @jgklansing
    @jgklansing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Faded is so timeless.

  • @glodhum
    @glodhum 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great concert, i love energy they are giving over the years. It seems they enjoy it as much as we still do

  • @GrauzoneBay
    @GrauzoneBay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have no words for how much I love them....since 30 years

  • @bettyschliebunt7078
    @bettyschliebunt7078 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Diese Musik begleitet mich seit einer ganzen Zeit….

  • @kmalik142
    @kmalik142 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing band….bought Gentlemen at a used CD store in College Park, MD. Summer 1994 and fell in love.

  • @kirstinmuller3362
    @kirstinmuller3362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love you guys for so long. Please ever stop

  • @Geo69xr
    @Geo69xr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow....been many years seeing the Whigs..Dulli got really huge

    • @Hammerhead3229
      @Hammerhead3229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @skateski Dulli has always been up and down in his weight. Even in the 90's he'd get big and back to skinny.

    • @Radb707
      @Radb707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah well he's middle aged, quit smoking and drugs, and spends most of his time touring. He got really skinny when the Whigs reunited cuz he took a break.

  • @SashaNYC00
    @SashaNYC00 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dulli AF. Love these guys

  • @martialbessou6743
    @martialbessou6743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sublime
    Merci from France

  • @Metalbum455
    @Metalbum455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Birdland is the song that got
    Me into this gem of a band

    • @shoegazed
      @shoegazed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously underrated tune. Perfectly beautiful album opener.

  • @bettyschliebunt7078
    @bettyschliebunt7078 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wunderbar - leider nie live gesehen… „Demon in Profile“ grossartig

  • @grgapitic2346
    @grgapitic2346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love them, i miss 90s 😎 Faded killed me as always

    • @lazynapt8254
      @lazynapt8254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Faded kills anyone. It's a mass killer song.

  • @goldenpotion
    @goldenpotion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn! Perhaps my favorite version EVER of Faded

  • @carollee8823
    @carollee8823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's 2021 just discovered this band, WOW.

    • @sidneymartin7346
      @sidneymartin7346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better late than never. 😉 Dulli, has had a couple side projects as well. He was the singer (and more, of course) of The Twilight Singers for awhile. Check out the album Backberry Belle. My favorite work of Dulli's.

  • @martinmachina395
    @martinmachina395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just an amazing performance :-)

  • @meking70
    @meking70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow awesome show!!!

  • @Thomricardop
    @Thomricardop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw them in WUK in Vienna about one week prior to this concert. Was an excellent show, by the way.

  • @janetldavies
    @janetldavies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blimey, Dulli even makes 'la la la' sound aggressive in You Want Love

  • @CirclingtheFringes
    @CirclingtheFringes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Greg Dulli is twice the man he once was.

    • @Birddie_
      @Birddie_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Literally

    • @moe17moe
      @moe17moe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Birddie_ yeah surely funny guy, meant it that way. Shut up already. You want your musicians to stay forever young? OD , plane crashes, choke in their own vomit, that sorta thing. Just be thankful he still around.

    • @guilhermegarcia8750
      @guilhermegarcia8750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @saintjabroni
      @saintjabroni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Birddie_😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @remko1238
    @remko1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My goodness…. nov 2021 ❤️‍🔥

  • @altugatalmis7235
    @altugatalmis7235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    perfect

  • @jcr1231
    @jcr1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maravillosos!!!!!!!

  • @guilhermegarcia8750
    @guilhermegarcia8750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You know its germany when the band is more agitated than the crowd.

    • @ChaosCrischen
      @ChaosCrischen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know it's germany when a public service broadcasting station uploads a ton of great concerts for you all to watch, while they could upload it to their own homepage geolocked. So be a nice guest ;)

    • @saintjabroni
      @saintjabroni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChaosCrischen😂😂😂😂

    • @bettyschliebunt7078
      @bettyschliebunt7078 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hell yes, and Ich bin aus Krefeld

  • @luluvox
    @luluvox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy shit that Bonnie Raitt moment.

  • @moonmonkey999
    @moonmonkey999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the whigs, first seen them on the gentleman tour, that wasn't yesterday.
    Last time was dulli and friends, lost their edge a bit, but still classy.

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow, you are old school like me! Yeah I first saw them on the Gentleman tour in NYC, that was one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life. Dulli is the consummate front man, they are still my favorite live band to this day.

    • @moonmonkey999
      @moonmonkey999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miameramusic OH pe is my first and fave. They are touring here in nov. Taste has changed, will prob end up seeing though

    • @miameramusic
      @miameramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can’t wait for the the new record! I worked at Sub Pop briefly in the late 90s but they were on Electra at the time. I remember hearing the Twilight Singers demo, amazing stuff.

  • @Finsami71
    @Finsami71 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Drums! 😎

  • @j.p.holiday8899
    @j.p.holiday8899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I decided to revist the Whigs with a pair of sweet headphones and made up of 76% weed.
    And I won't be telling you it was a bad decision.

  • @benjaminsmith5972
    @benjaminsmith5972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sing it Greg

  • @alexandrequinto
    @alexandrequinto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bom demais!

  • @p0rn0saur
    @p0rn0saur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    greg with a few chins is still more bad ass since anything from maybe the late 80s?

    • @LiberalsArePoop
      @LiberalsArePoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His neck is getting pretty thick.

    • @GoteeDevotee
      @GoteeDevotee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but it's a few more chins piling on the rest. Like a white Barry Whute

    • @LiberalsArePoop
      @LiberalsArePoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is it fair to say that he has more chins than a Chinese phone book?

    • @davidtaylor6663
      @davidtaylor6663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      who gives a f about his neck. he is the best singer/songwriter and rockstar in the world. period

    • @dersinger9853
      @dersinger9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesome vibes somethimes need more space. shut your eyes and listen to the beautyness of this beeing. forget about your image. here is something connecting, wild, unchained, agelesss - a powerplant of authentic frequences. he looks perfect - in the shape of his voice, of course not when you intend to share a meal with him ;-)

  • @davidtaylor6663
    @davidtaylor6663 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Rossier tears hard for a beautiful man

  • @TrippedGian1
    @TrippedGian1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greg is like the coolest dad cop here hah
    Also the riff in John the Baptist sounds like Wasted Years by Iron Maiden WHAT THE HELL

  • @gajdut
    @gajdut ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers from Ukraine! goosebumps

  • @acos21
    @acos21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the most underrated 90s bands. I bet it's because of their bandname. Not sure if thats a good or a bad thing.

  • @mattcaracciolo6282
    @mattcaracciolo6282 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    light as a feather is fuckin fire in this set

    • @saintjabroni
      @saintjabroni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely.

  • @sarys73
    @sarys73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What a dead crowd. These goons don't know what a treat this is. Greg never comes anywhere near where I live.

    • @1965official
      @1965official 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe they're hearing Whigs for the first time and they're still unable to fully comprehend the genius of Mr Dulli. But they will. And soon.

    • @Ravver
      @Ravver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they're just vibing man, let people enjoy music how they want to enjoy it lol.

    • @jurgenweinberg6611
      @jurgenweinberg6611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was totally stunned when the Whigs were announced for Haltern Pop Festival. This place is 75km away from where I live and it was like a dream came through. Greg Dulli and the Whigs playing in Germany. But you are right, the crowd wasn't ready for this. It wasn't the right festival to get worshipped for the Whigs. Anyway, I did enjoy every second of it and I'm hoping to get another chance to see the Whigs playing live.

  • @FrankValchiria
    @FrankValchiria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    pretty sure at 33:00 min he plaid a jeff buckley song

    • @luluvox
      @luluvox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      omg yes he did. SWOON.

    • @vitotigani
      @vitotigani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Last goodbye

  • @qwertJoe1975
    @qwertJoe1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who knew the guitar player from Red Fang played drums? For the Afghan Whigs no less.

  • @agoogleuser7832
    @agoogleuser7832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    JEEZES Greg! Too many dolma!

  • @GrauzoneBay
    @GrauzoneBay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I see how much TS makes on a weekend with her Saturday afternoon kids party elevator music...its just not fair...why is that????

  • @RedMothRecords
    @RedMothRecords 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Matamoros was super fast

    • @meadish
      @meadish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that song did lose a bit of its pulling magic like that. I think the KEXP performance is the one I like most for that song. Still, not complaining, the concert as a whole is amazing. Voice-wise, Dulli is killing it and then some, and they are super tight as a unit.

  • @moonmonkey999
    @moonmonkey999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure why 11 people dislike this...

  • @mdav30
    @mdav30 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't figure out why they don't play What Jail is Like or Gentlemen - some of their best tunes. Why?

    • @TR-yi8up
      @TR-yi8up 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mdav30 it is kind of an odd set list, but they make it worth. I’d def want to her some of that era if I saw them live

  • @geopro0780
    @geopro0780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How could they have NOT done' 66?

  • @LiberalsArePoop
    @LiberalsArePoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like this set could have used a better mix of old and new...

  • @timcwalker
    @timcwalker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jeff Buckley 32:50

    • @ravynkat
      @ravynkat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adding, "Last Goodbye" there was killer!!!

  • @Studioelekktro
    @Studioelekktro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the jazzmaster ???? :(

  • @davidtaylor6663
    @davidtaylor6663 ปีที่แล้ว

    greg dullie can do no wrong

  • @ixxgxx
    @ixxgxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    no YOU MY FLOWER?

  • @madmodem
    @madmodem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ummm...Did I miss something??????????????

  • @kingfillins4117
    @kingfillins4117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the drummer but his grunge rock visual aesthetic is a bit off putting to the Wigs vibe of debonair psychopaths...

  • @Tdm-Music0n
    @Tdm-Music0n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    como que engordo un poquito mucho e.e

  • @gedc1347
    @gedc1347 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry for your Loss... its rough as fuck to lose a friendx.

  • @kevinkeith9223
    @kevinkeith9223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frank's cooler brother, greg black.

  • @user-li1mj1jx2j
    @user-li1mj1jx2j 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Didn't know Peter Griffin sings in a band

    • @chrisgugino1957
      @chrisgugino1957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dulli in his prime had more sex appeal than most of us will ever have ever in our entire lives even if we manage to dorian gray it to 200. if i can still sing and command an audience half as well as he can when i’m 50, i won’t even mind being fat.

    • @meadish
      @meadish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisgugino1957 Body size adds to his presence. It may not be amphetamine edgy anymore, but the way I see it, we're looking at a silverback here.