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Can't wait to see the final product. This should be a yacht to serve you well for many years, as in 20 -30 years, not you typical 7-8 year ownership period. This yacht could take you around the world several times over!
Loving the build and getting anxious as I know you are to see the final end of the build, lowering the boat into the water, stepping the mast, etc. and the final sea trials and the start of new adventures.
Take a look at bushpoint sailing here on TH-cam, a Swedish couple who took an aluminum sailboat on a trip up north like you seem to be planning with your new boat, good luck with your new boat, it looks great
Thank you, I enjoyed the update. Of course, I would be happy with hours and hours of detailed discussion on the hull and systems choices! It looks like all those thru-hulls you showed are below the waterline. Was the builder referring to a single manifold for intake as a source of problems? While designing my build, it's a source of contention whether to limit the intake to a single standpipe or not. I hope you will be able to give us more details on the paint schedule for the aluminum. Really great project and interesting to see the progress. Thank you for sharing!
Helle. Love your videos. Have you thought about making forward cabin watertight? So if you hit a container or iceberg you will be safe because only the cabin will flood. I have seen some metal sail boats do that. Best regards from Denmark🇩🇰
Nice work so far ... have you every openly discussed the budget for this build? I am sure many would be curious to see what a complex build like this costs.
Super video, really like what you are doing. You make a boat like I would do it . On the drawings, seems like the engine will be enclosed in a watertight compartment, am I right? I’m really looking forward to see how the mechanical parts will be done!
Great progress. Great design. Great execution. And interesting to see how these highly experienced craftsmen with deep expertise actually work with modern CAD/CAM tools to get very precise results.
Outstanding quality,and it's all derived from the supreme workmanship used and so easily verifiable by eye. Muito obrigado for the so informative video. Greetings in a Portuguese way (loud sheers and embraces amongst glasses of wine) from Bradford, Ontario.
It's like an aluminum Southerly. You've got all the best attributes of the Southerly and the durability of aluminum. It's going to be an amazing vessel.
Thank you very much for the update. DS4 is really taking shape and clearly the Enkhuizen people know their stuff. We love how you promote our little country. If you need any advice on where to visit next, let us know. ❤ Rob and Jouke.
Minor thing but next series can you put the part number of the series at the beginning of the text, i was not able to see it on the youtube app and the videos do appear to be in order 😅, maybe a youtube issue. Thanks for the great content! Looking forward to the finish
Nice technical video. It would make sense to put the batteries for the bow thruster in the front near it's electric engine to avoid voltage drop and use less copper 😊. From experience the paint on aluminum never last long ... Other deck materials may be a better choice.
If the Bowthruster runs on 48V ther is not much current and the cables are relatively thin. THat is the big advantage of higher voltage. The piant on Aluminium lasts very well if the priming and painting prozess is done correct.
Hi Paul, as an engineer and boat owner it is always interesting to see the « behind the scene ».. looking at the frame and floor, is there openings for drainage. Between floors. I guess. Hard to see. Water management. Hope to stop in Netherlands next October.
Looks great but I do have a small detail question. On the thru hull pipes, are they welded to the fore and aft strakes to stabilize them? I couldn't tell from the video. If not, you might ask if they should be gusseted to make them stronger and less prone to cracking. Beautiful workmanship through out though.
Hi guys, wow the yacht Is coming together. I remember when it was just sheets of aluminium on the floor. Can’t wait to see it all finished and splash down in the water. Keep up the good work. Love your videos Cliff from Logan city Queensland Australia 🇦🇺 from the big island 🏝️
Looks like from now on there will be big advances with the infill. The outside paint looks great. We're sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for the next job. Thank you 4 sharing. 🙂
Controls for the bow thruster single folding prop controlled port -starboard a one handle or switch ? When all is finished what will be your port of call..
Very nice build, I do have some remarks about that picture with cables through those holes: Chafing will occur - not good. Planes uses similar construction using conducts (pipes) like you have show in the animation. Why not in that real yacht? I would like to have more ambient light in the cabins. Why not more and bigger windows? About those through holes, will vibrations of flexible pipes break them after a few years? Perhaps welding them with a strut to the hull would alleviate that problem. Just my thoughts.
hi guys, i've been watching you off-an-on since you did the trent-severn waterway about a million years ago :-) i was wandering if you can share the cost of your new vessel or if you can point me to where you have already discussed it? i'm guessing this will be your final vessel. can't wait to see it finished. have fun.
There's a couple on YT planning going to arctic areas that has removed all underwater thru hulls to avoid them freeze shut. Did you/yard consider this?
@4:59, where the electrical conductors are outside of the conduit, what protection is in place to prevent chafing against the aluminum hull? Something such as Sigma Engineered Solutions ProConnex 02-55038L AC/Flex Anti-Short Bushings #3 Conduit Fitting for example. Thanks for sharing. I loved this indepth engineering episode.
It seems like the bow thruster should have a water tight bulkhead behind it or its own compartment. If there were a leak it looks like the amount of water ingress or the difficulty of working on the shaft seal under the motos would be hard. Boat looks great!
I wish I could find a nonskid that bonds to the deck . And has a texture thats small and is similar to a traditional nonskid thats molded in the deck .Treadmasters pattern is to big for my taste . Can’t wait to see what you use
I used a product from TBS (France) on both an aluminium and a GRP boat. It bonds with Sika 291is less than 2 mm thick and available in different colors. On the aluminium boat it did not show any wear and tear after 15 years. It is great in the nonskid sector even when wet but you can knee on it w/o getting your skin peeled off.
Thanks for another video! I believe you'll install storm surge protection (against lightning) , right? I am curious about this system and installation. Cheers.
Great update on your dream boat, keep them coming. On the topic of foam insulation, you didn't mention the 'type' of insulation sprayed and showed a cream colored example at 4:59. According to my experience with North American products the cream colored insulation would indicate an 'open' cell insulation as opposed to a blue colored 'closed' cell insulation. European markets might be totally different but I would suggest verifying the material is indeed a 'closed' cell insulation to prevent moisture absorption. On the issue of safety: Exposed foam insulation is not allowed in residential construction due to the production of toxic gas emission upon burning. Residential Code here in Canada requires ALL foam must be (protected) covered with drywall to allow sufficient time for egress. However in a boat with limited or restrictive egress we should be EXTRA vigilant in ensuring a proper insulation seal, especially when egress is limited. Years ago, I came upon a particularly difficult spray installation that would make covering the uneven surface costly and difficult. In order to offer some protection to my client, I came upon a product (not approved for residential application at the time) the entertainment industry employs to protect their large foam carvings, animated heads, animals and displays by spraying a fire retardant directly on the foam. I suspect this product has improved over the decades and I would suggest researching it if this is of interest to you. Further, and NOT to scare you but I would include respirators with organic filters, inexpensive and something you hope to never have to deploy. For those interested: Foam insulation R6/inch (2.5 cents) 6 cents ~ R14 Canadian code requirements for wall R19 Hope I scared you...a little bit Ya! there's always one in the crowd Cheers
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and for this information. We will investigate and be covering the topic of insulation in more depth in a future video. 👍🏻
@@DistantShoresTV I should add that Closed Cell insulation is a MUST. Open cell insulation would be like gluing a sponge on the inside of the boat that would absorb vapour and render the insulation useless, not to mention the added weight, formation of mold behind your cabinets etc. Another issue I have is the application method. The side walls will be in constant motion, deformation and twisting action. I would enquire about surface preparation (sanding, acid washing) since bonding is paramount to a successful job. Is a primer or bonding agent recommended on aluminum by the manufacturer? What's the manufacturer's opinion with applying their product to an aluminum surface in constant motion. I wouldn't want to hear the insulation cracking or delaminating from the hull down the line after your exhaustive and meticulous attention to detail. I maybe overthinking this but I've seen (including my own home addition) costly application errors that could have been prevented with a little research. Foam insulation is a great product if applied according to manufacturer specification. Cheers, N
Nice.. but was there a settee with a big inner corner radius showing in the rendering.. you know, the kind that is robbing you of good backrest opportunities legs up in not one but two different directions..?
We're with you! That shot of the pilot salon with the big inner corner radius is from an Orion 49 constructed by another builder. We used the shot to help viewers envision what the pilot salon would look like finished. On our boat we will not be having the corner radius. It will be squared off so you can have good backrests in either direction. Also, it will make it possible for the long side of the bench to be a sea berth. Good observation. 👍🏻Thanks for your comment.
@@DistantShoresTV Hi, it is not insulated at all and it also was not painted. This is the problem, where the condensation has laid on the stringers it has pitted the inside of the hull. Water mixed will all sorts of chemicals over the years. It is not just the condensation it is the unexpected things like a leaking deck filler that adds to is. I worry that even sprayed insulation, if it ever for water might trap water against the hull. In HVAC wet or damp phenolic insulation reacts with meters, even eating through stainless. I would want it painted before spraying on insulation. Your hull has already oxidized though so you cannot really paint any of it without a sand blast or sanding down. Aluminium is great, just needs caution. Love your show!!!
Wonderful Thanks ! Not sure your subscribers will understand the pros and cons of multiple thru hulls versus one large sea chest type ? Also... very interesting that the bilge is to be painted... I always thought this was a mistake because of the difficulty of the paint adhering to the alloy.... but I guess it's a trade off if a coin or wire is dropped ????? Looking forward to going north with you !!!!! few channels do
It would be cool to have electric motors to open and close all of your thru-hulls with graphic representation on your computer monitors indicating open, in transition and closed with fault monitoring. I'm thinking something like you'd find on an Airbus or other glass cockpit commercial aircraft. Manual back-up to open or close the thru-hulls of course. Hey, when your shooting for the moon you may as well plan on the Mars mission too.
coming along very well.i like the painting areas, so much cleaner. paint and aluminium arent friends so whats there paint process, maybe part of an episode? you look at antifoul film?
I have been following your channel for several years , I like your travel and stories very much. You are building a beautiful yacht. I can't wait to see the finished product. My question is about the fresh water tanks. I noticed that they are built right into the ship . Why not plastic water tanks ? Drop them in and move on to the next part of the build. Just wondering.
This is the standard method used by aluminum boat builders in the area and was the standard for the Orion 49. It adds to the structure and strength of the hull and they are easy to clean apparently. Since they are welded in, fewer fittings are needed to position them.
The areas of my aluminium hull, where painted (internally) have lasted really well, after 30 years the aluminium is perfect underneath. Areas unpainted is pitted and in areas badly. There is no problem painting aluminium if done properly. Obviously there is a limit but I’m pretty happy with 30 years
@@robSaRe Thanks for reply. For interest, what painting protocol did you use? Or was it done by the builder? You probably know that most French aluminium boat builders tend to leave the hull above the WL unpainted. Also, painted topsides tend to start peeling. Maybe the key is above- vs below-deck?
✨✨‼✨✨. ~~~ Oh, by the way, I seem to be recommending your effort here to lots of people who are "building boats" on You Tube. ~ just saying. There is an amazing effort going on in Sweden by a young couple who have a farm and who have been sailing too. He explains his plans for "laying up" his 50 foot hull. A Brilliant effort, long hours, cedar strips all the way up the hull frames. Well along with the hull. No idea what vacuum bagging is. I think a language thing. He does a fair job with english, I think with coaching from his wife. I am going to promote that he needs to contact your company to fit the hull out when he gets done (with the hull) so they can get into the water sooner. Not kidding. ~ maybe he can float the hull then motor it over to this company. Or have components built. They seem to have financial resources. Not about you guys here. Sorry. You both know that you are just swimming in a golden sea. Such a sweet build here. Whew! Best wishes. ~ from New Hampshire.
Awesome video, is always enjoyable to see someone's vision and dream come to life. I've always wanted to learn American. Like what is a tap in American? And aluminium is spelled the same but Americans call it something else.
Critical error not zinc chromate all of the aluminum after the welds and seems, as we do is all sea planes. Ever millimeter of the aluminum needed to be covered with zinc chromate..
@@LoztDaze all Navy aircraft get 3 coatings of Zinc chromate before the gray Emron, a type of two part epoxy paint, then 3 coats of that, my son was a LTCMDR Navy test Pilot and line maintenance officer. Navy aircraft get doused in sea water all the time. So they know how to protect aluminum from corrosion..
@@blegi1245 I know Naval Aviation, I know what the sea does to Aluminum, I know that the Navy spent billions on the subject, I know that other skiff boat in special forces are aluminum, they all got the electric applied Zinc Chromate base, I also know that planes and Navy boats with the treatment and been in service for 30 years. At the USNA they have a whole study on corrosion on , aluminum, stainless, titanium, and composite compounds, I went on the tour, my son is class of 2010., in Addition they also do radiation exposure experiments. So what you are telling me is that this boat manufacturer knows more than the United States Navy. Sorry, their data alone and you can check it proves their way works. Epoxy does not last as long as alloy plating which is how the corrosion process is applied, Ford thought so highly of it that they use the Sam process on the Aluminum F150, note Road Salt! Check your facts, everybody is free to do and spend money anyway they want.
If someone is wondering, why he mixes up isolation and insulation: in German it is "Isolierung" one word, a homonym having both meanings. In Dutch it is isolatie and isolering, so both nearer to isolation than insulation. So a very typical mistake of German and Dutch speakers when they speak English. 🙂
Если тема близка можно пережить. Мне досталось на олимпиаде перевод с французского на английский об автогонках 19011 года, написано специфичным жаргоном, вот это было жестоко. Интернета широкополосного и смартфона тогда неизобрели. 😊
A 35kg anchor on a 48’er.? I mean, I’m sure she’s light because she’s aluminum…., but still. Seems light. Or at least minimal. I tried that whole get the size they say.., then I got two sizes larger. As it turns out, that idea worked Awesome👍🏻
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Can't wait to see the final product. This should be a yacht to serve you well for many years, as in 20 -30 years, not you typical 7-8 year ownership period. This yacht could take you around the world several times over!
well done, great video as usual.
Amazing, cannot wait to see the final product.
Thanks again!
Love watching the build
Loving the build and getting anxious as I know you are to see the final end of the build, lowering the boat into the water, stepping the mast, etc. and the final sea trials and the start of new adventures.
Great to see the behind the scenes build
Take a look at bushpoint sailing here on TH-cam, a Swedish couple who took an aluminum sailboat on a trip up north like you seem to be planning with your new boat, good luck with your new boat, it looks great
Thanks very much
Thank you, I enjoyed the update. Of course, I would be happy with hours and hours of detailed discussion on the hull and systems choices!
It looks like all those thru-hulls you showed are below the waterline. Was the builder referring to a single manifold for intake as a source of problems? While designing my build, it's a source of contention whether to limit the intake to a single standpipe or not.
I hope you will be able to give us more details on the paint schedule for the aluminum.
Really great project and interesting to see the progress. Thank you for sharing!
This is coming along well. Loving the build and look forward to seeing her on the water. Awesome choice of design and material
Thanks so much for this feedback. So glad you are enjoying following the build.
Thank you for the update on our adopted boat. She is coming along nicely! Can't wait for the inaugural sail.
Loved seeing the video! Such great memories for me! Hope to meet you in person again some day! Take care! Susan
Very informative and helpful! Looking forward to more updates and the final product!
Another great update on the Orion 49. The amount of room for a 49 foot boat looks impressive. Thanks for sharing.
Helle. Love your videos.
Have you thought about making forward cabin watertight? So if you hit a container or iceberg you will be safe because only the cabin will flood. I have seen some metal sail boats do that. Best regards from Denmark🇩🇰
Great video!!
Thanks for documenting the build process so well. How are all the welds tested for pin hole leaks?
As usual, nice presentation. I enjoy learning from the experts and their reasons for doing it their way.
Glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful
Nice work so far ... have you every openly discussed the budget for this build? I am sure many would be curious to see what a complex build like this costs.
Really interesting video - thanks
Super video, really like what you are doing. You make a boat like I would do it . On the drawings, seems like the engine will be enclosed in a watertight compartment, am I right? I’m really looking forward to see how the mechanical parts will be done!
Great progress. Great design. Great execution. And interesting to see how these highly experienced craftsmen with deep expertise actually work with modern CAD/CAM tools to get very precise results.
Outstanding quality,and it's all derived from the supreme workmanship used and so easily verifiable by eye. Muito obrigado for the so informative video. Greetings in a Portuguese way (loud sheers and embraces amongst glasses of wine) from Bradford, Ontario.
It's like an aluminum Southerly. You've got all the best attributes of the Southerly and the durability of aluminum. It's going to be an amazing vessel.
Thank you very much for the update. DS4 is really taking shape and clearly the Enkhuizen people know their stuff.
We love how you promote our little country. If you need any advice on where to visit next, let us know.
❤
Rob and Jouke.
Glad you enjoyed the video, Rob and Jouke. We love visiting the Netherlands and always appreciate your advice on where to visit. Happy sailing! ⛵
Minor thing but next series can you put the part number of the series at the beginning of the text, i was not able to see it on the youtube app and the videos do appear to be in order 😅, maybe a youtube issue.
Thanks for the great content! Looking forward to the finish
Thank you so much for sharing your passion for sailing. We had fabulous time sailing with you in the Netherlands.
Thanks Dan! It was a pleasure having you both aboard for the Dutch cruise ❤️
Nice technical video. It would make sense to put the batteries for the bow thruster in the front near it's electric engine to avoid voltage drop and use less copper 😊. From experience the paint on aluminum never last long ... Other deck materials may be a better choice.
If the Bowthruster runs on 48V ther is not much current and the cables are relatively thin. THat is the big advantage of higher voltage. The piant on Aluminium lasts very well if the priming and painting prozess is done correct.
Hi Paul, as an engineer and boat owner it is always interesting to see the « behind the scene ».. looking at the frame and floor, is there openings for drainage. Between floors. I guess. Hard to see. Water management. Hope to stop in Netherlands next October.
Looks great but I do have a small detail question. On the thru hull pipes, are they welded to the fore and aft strakes to stabilize them? I couldn't tell from the video. If not, you might ask if they should be gusseted to make them stronger and less prone to cracking. Beautiful workmanship through out though.
Hi guys, wow the yacht Is coming together. I remember when it was just sheets of aluminium on the floor. Can’t wait to see it all finished and splash down in the water. Keep up the good work. Love your videos Cliff from Logan city Queensland Australia 🇦🇺 from the big island 🏝️
Thanks for following our adventures with the new build and for your encouraging words. We're counting the days until launch this autumn.
Thankyou 👍 looking good😊
Looks like from now on there will be big advances with the infill. The outside paint looks great. We're sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for the next job. Thank you 4 sharing. 🙂
Yes, things will really start coming together now. So glad you're enjoying the videos.
Hi guys. Nice video. I'm wondering what brand of epoxy they are using in the watertanks. Cheers!
Another wonderful update! : - ) Will the new Distant Shores be at the US Sailboat Show in October?
No she will not be ready in time for that...
Controls for the bow thruster single folding prop controlled port -starboard a one handle or switch ? When all is finished what will be your port of call..
watching your vidios makes me feel like I'm in school ))))
Very nice build, I do have some remarks about that picture with cables through those holes: Chafing will occur - not good. Planes uses similar construction using conducts (pipes) like you have show in the animation. Why not in that real yacht? I would like to have more ambient light in the cabins. Why not more and bigger windows? About those through holes, will vibrations of flexible pipes break them after a few years? Perhaps welding them with a strut to the hull would alleviate that problem. Just my thoughts.
So well designed , now I know why you choose that boatyard
The insulation is going to be wonderful in both cold and warm climates. Well dine Sheryl and Paul. Dankjewel voor het video.
Yes, we're planning to some high latitude sailing in cold climates as well as tropical cruising with Distant Shores IV.
I think having each service having it's own through hole is a good idea and will keep it simpler and less prone to leaks and blockages,
Interesting and detailed as always
Thanks for this feedback!
hi guys, i've been watching you off-an-on since you did the trent-severn waterway about a million years ago :-) i was wandering if you can share the cost of your new vessel or if you can point me to where you have already discussed it? i'm guessing this will be your final vessel. can't wait to see it finished. have fun.
I can’t wait till it’s done and see her sail. Can’t imagine how bad you won’t to sail her
There's a couple on YT planning going to arctic areas that has removed all underwater thru hulls to avoid them freeze shut. Did you/yard consider this?
@4:59, where the electrical conductors are outside of the conduit, what protection is in place to prevent chafing against the aluminum hull? Something such as Sigma Engineered Solutions ProConnex 02-55038L AC/Flex Anti-Short Bushings #3 Conduit Fitting for example. Thanks for sharing. I loved this indepth engineering episode.
It seems like the bow thruster should have a water tight bulkhead behind it or its own compartment. If there were a leak it looks like the amount of water ingress or the difficulty of working on the shaft seal under the motos would be hard. Boat looks great!
Thanks for your comment. You are correct and these things are in place. We simplified the drawing so the thruster motor was easier to see.
I was wondering if you could press the builders a little harder on why multiple through holes in their experience were better than one through hull?
Thanks for your comment. We will be doing more on that in a future video.
Whats the price tag and how did you finance it through a US bank or other means ty
Why the spray on foam? Aren't there more serviceable alternatives?
I hope they will provide as built drawings on completion, could be useful for further updates.
I wish I could find a nonskid that bonds to the deck . And has a texture thats small and is similar to a traditional nonskid thats molded in the deck .Treadmasters pattern is to big for my taste . Can’t wait to see what you use
We're using non-skid grit in the paint on the deck, Brian. Easy to clean and maintain.
I used a product from TBS (France) on both an aluminium and a GRP boat. It bonds with Sika 291is less than 2 mm thick and available in different colors. On the aluminium boat it did not show any wear and tear after 15 years. It is great in the nonskid sector even when wet but you can knee on it w/o getting your skin peeled off.
Thanks for another video! I believe you'll install storm surge protection (against lightning) , right? I am curious about this system and installation. Cheers.
Yes we’ll have lightning protection and will film it👍
What is the new build costing?
Great update on your dream boat, keep them coming.
On the topic of foam insulation, you didn't mention the 'type' of insulation sprayed and showed a cream colored example at 4:59.
According to my experience with North American products the cream colored insulation would indicate an 'open' cell insulation as opposed to a blue colored 'closed' cell insulation.
European markets might be totally different but I would suggest verifying the material is indeed a 'closed' cell insulation to prevent moisture absorption.
On the issue of safety:
Exposed foam insulation is not allowed in residential construction due to the production of toxic gas emission upon burning.
Residential Code here in Canada requires ALL foam must be (protected) covered with drywall to allow sufficient time for egress.
However in a boat with limited or restrictive egress we should be EXTRA vigilant in ensuring a proper insulation seal, especially when egress is limited.
Years ago, I came upon a particularly difficult spray installation that would make covering the uneven surface costly and difficult.
In order to offer some protection to my client, I came upon a product (not approved for residential application at the time) the entertainment industry employs to protect their large foam carvings, animated heads, animals and displays by spraying a fire retardant directly on the foam.
I suspect this product has improved over the decades and I would suggest researching it if this is of interest to you.
Further, and NOT to scare you but I would include respirators with organic filters, inexpensive and something you hope to never have to deploy.
For those interested:
Foam insulation
R6/inch (2.5 cents)
6 cents ~ R14
Canadian code requirements for wall R19
Hope I scared you...a little bit
Ya! there's always one in the crowd
Cheers
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and for this information. We will investigate and be covering the topic of insulation in more depth in a future video. 👍🏻
@@DistantShoresTV
I should add that Closed Cell insulation is a MUST.
Open cell insulation would be like gluing a sponge on the inside of the boat that would absorb vapour and render the insulation useless, not to mention the added weight, formation of mold behind your cabinets etc.
Another issue I have is the application method.
The side walls will be in constant motion, deformation and twisting action.
I would enquire about surface preparation (sanding, acid washing) since bonding is paramount to a successful job.
Is a primer or bonding agent recommended on aluminum by the manufacturer?
What's the manufacturer's opinion with applying their product to an aluminum surface in constant motion.
I wouldn't want to hear the insulation cracking or delaminating from the hull down the line after your exhaustive and meticulous attention to detail.
I maybe overthinking this but I've seen (including my own home addition) costly application errors that could have been prevented with a little research.
Foam insulation is a great product if applied according to manufacturer specification.
Cheers,
N
@@DistantShoresTV Its very appreciated indeed to understand what type of expanded foam you will spray !
Nice.. but was there a settee with a big inner corner radius showing in the rendering.. you know, the kind that is robbing you of good backrest opportunities legs up in not one but two different directions..?
We're with you! That shot of the pilot salon with the big inner corner radius is from an Orion 49 constructed by another builder. We used the shot to help viewers envision what the pilot salon would look like finished. On our boat we will not be having the corner radius. It will be squared off so you can have good backrests in either direction. Also, it will make it possible for the long side of the bench to be a sea berth. Good observation. 👍🏻Thanks for your comment.
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Make sure you paint the entire inside of the hull, even behind the insulation. Trust me I have a 30 year old Ovni
Thanks Robert. Does your ovni have solid panels of insulation or was it sprayed?
@@DistantShoresTV Hi, it is not insulated at all and it also was not painted. This is the problem, where the condensation has laid on the stringers it has pitted the inside of the hull. Water mixed will all sorts of chemicals over the years. It is not just the condensation it is the unexpected things like a leaking deck filler that adds to is. I worry that even sprayed insulation, if it ever for water might trap water against the hull. In HVAC wet or damp phenolic insulation reacts with meters, even eating through stainless. I would want it painted before spraying on insulation. Your hull has already oxidized though so you cannot really paint any of it without a sand blast or sanding down. Aluminium is great, just needs caution. Love your show!!!
Wonderful Thanks ! Not sure your subscribers will understand the pros and cons of multiple thru hulls versus one large sea chest type ? Also... very interesting that the bilge is to be painted... I always thought this was a mistake because of the difficulty of the paint adhering to the alloy.... but I guess it's a trade off if a coin or wire is dropped ????? Looking forward to going north with you !!!!! few channels do
Yes, we'll go into that more in a future video. So glad you're enjoying following the build. Thanks for your comments. 👍🏻
Could be better to have the tunnel forward of the crash bulkhead...
It would be cool to have electric motors to open and close all of your thru-hulls with graphic representation on your computer monitors indicating open, in transition and closed with fault monitoring. I'm thinking something like you'd find on an Airbus or other glass cockpit commercial aircraft. Manual back-up to open or close the thru-hulls of course. Hey, when your shooting for the moon you may as well plan on the Mars mission too.
Why no stern thruster? Or, why no articulating rudder? (obviously the rudder immediately aft, and proximal to, the propeller)
Excellent question. All that effort and expense, and an opportunity for improved maneuverability missed?
There will be a third small rudder installed right behind the propeller for improved maneuverability. No opportunity missed. 👍🏻
If there is no insulation under the waterline, won't it sink all the heat from the boat through the hull when you are on cold waters?
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coming along very well.i like the painting areas, so much cleaner. paint and aluminium arent friends so whats there paint process, maybe part of an episode? you look at antifoul film?
I have been following your channel for several years , I like your travel and stories very much. You are building a beautiful yacht. I can't wait to see the finished product. My question is about the fresh water tanks. I noticed that they are built right into the ship . Why not plastic water tanks ? Drop them in and move on to the next part of the build. Just wondering.
This is the standard method used by aluminum boat builders in the area and was the standard for the Orion 49. It adds to the structure and strength of the hull and they are easy to clean apparently. Since they are welded in, fewer fittings are needed to position them.
the water capacity can be maximized as otherwise the space the frames take will be lost.
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Painting aluminium is generally considered to be a mug’s game, as paint adhesion is so difficult to achieve.
The areas of my aluminium hull, where painted (internally) have lasted really well, after 30 years the aluminium is perfect underneath. Areas unpainted is pitted and in areas badly. There is no problem painting aluminium if done properly. Obviously there is a limit but I’m pretty happy with 30 years
@@robSaRe Thanks for reply. For interest, what painting protocol did you use? Or was it done by the builder? You probably know that most French aluminium boat builders tend to leave the hull above the WL unpainted. Also, painted topsides tend to start peeling. Maybe the key is above- vs below-deck?
✨✨‼✨✨. ~~~ Oh, by the way, I seem to be recommending your effort here to lots of people who are "building boats" on You Tube. ~ just saying. There is an amazing effort going on in Sweden by a young couple who have a farm and who have been sailing too. He explains his plans for "laying up" his 50 foot hull. A Brilliant effort, long hours, cedar strips all the way up the hull frames. Well along with the hull. No idea what vacuum bagging is. I think a language thing. He does a fair job with english, I think with coaching from his wife. I am going to promote that he needs to contact your company to fit the hull out when he gets done (with the hull) so they can get into the water sooner. Not kidding. ~ maybe he can float the hull then motor it over to this company. Or have components built. They seem to have financial resources. Not about you guys here. Sorry. You both know that you are just swimming in a golden sea. Such a sweet build here. Whew! Best wishes. ~ from New Hampshire.
Awesome video, is always enjoyable to see someone's vision and dream come to life.
I've always wanted to learn American. Like what is a tap in American? And aluminium is spelled the same but Americans call it something else.
Critical error not zinc chromate all of the aluminum after the welds and seems, as we do is all sea planes. Ever millimeter of the aluminum needed to be covered with zinc chromate..
They haven't shown what the primer is. However the surface prep will be a bigger factor considering that modern epoxies can include zinc cromate.
@@LoztDaze all Navy aircraft get 3 coatings of Zinc chromate before the gray Emron, a type of two part epoxy paint, then 3 coats of that, my son was a LTCMDR Navy test Pilot and line maintenance officer. Navy aircraft get doused in sea water all the time. So they know how to protect aluminum from corrosion..
@@ballomni critical error not knowing what you are talking about.
@@blegi1245 I know Naval Aviation, I know what the sea does to Aluminum, I know that the Navy spent billions on the subject, I know that other skiff boat in special forces are aluminum, they all got the electric applied Zinc Chromate base, I also know that planes and Navy boats with the treatment and been in service for 30 years. At the USNA they have a whole study on corrosion on , aluminum, stainless, titanium, and composite compounds, I went on the tour, my son is class of 2010., in Addition they also do radiation exposure experiments. So what you are telling me is that this boat manufacturer knows more than the United States Navy. Sorry, their data alone and you can check it proves their way works. Epoxy does not last as long as alloy plating which is how the corrosion process is applied, Ford thought so highly of it that they use the Sam process on the Aluminum F150, note Road Salt! Check your facts, everybody is free to do and spend money anyway they want.
If someone is wondering, why he mixes up isolation and insulation: in German it is "Isolierung" one word, a homonym having both meanings. In Dutch it is isolatie and isolering, so both nearer to isolation than insulation. So a very typical mistake of German and Dutch speakers when they speak English. 🙂
Если тема близка можно пережить. Мне досталось на олимпиаде перевод с французского на английский об автогонках 19011 года, написано специфичным жаргоном, вот это было жестоко. Интернета широкополосного и смартфона тогда неизобрели. 😊
A 35kg anchor on a 48’er.? I mean, I’m sure she’s light because she’s aluminum…., but still.
Seems light. Or at least minimal.
I tried that whole get the size they say.., then I got two sizes larger.
As it turns out, that idea worked Awesome👍🏻