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Yay! Another Lund nugget of knowledge! @BrandonLund , I think the real reason why the foot was bolted onto the bottom of the kickstand is because it's designed to be a sacrificial part. As it wears, you can simply replace the foot with a new one from time to time instead of having to replace the entire kickstand assembly every time the foot wears out. 😉😎
I never thought of it this way but I bet your 100% correct! That's why I love this community. We put our heads together for the betterment of everyone. I appreciate it man!
My guess is the upper material is cast aluminum and the little foot at the bottom isn't. Also possible contamination in the aluminum. In a situation like this, I would use TIG with 4043 wire for filler. 4043 seems to work better on cast, but welding cast seems to always be a mess. You'll be welding along smoothly and get to the end and it will explode or droop causing cussing and frustration because of the porous cast. That's just my thoughts. Greetings from Alaska.
I think your assessment is spot on. I never gave it a thought until you just mentioned it. It sure acted as though it was. It wanted to evaporate just like cast will do. I think your right.
One more comment. Depending on the country of origin, where it was cast, I've found the metal could also be of inferior quality. But you know, that's just one of the many factors you run into when welding. I'm sure you know that. At the rate you're going, you'll be fabricating your own parts that are better and stronger. Great job and keep at it! @@BrandonLund
I always heat cast to about 400 degrees fifteen to 30 minutes before welding. That helps to get the garbage out of the pores. But TIG is better. You still have to heat it first and watch the black crap coming out.
*Agree with Shipfixer but I always superclean aluminum with Acetone (twice) just due to a lot of junk popping out of aluminum as it gets hot. Not sure if you mentioned the gas change to 100% arg from 75/25 with aluminum mig/tig but there's that issue also.*
Brandon, my favorite you tube presenters are the ones who show their not so perfect stuff. It gives guys like me hope. I just got my first welder and can’t wait to get going on it.
Good stuff, Brandon. Thanks for your honesty and also including the last few seconds showing the results of your "grinder and paint"... That looked great.
Thanks for keeping it real! One of the things I like about your videos is how you solve problems. If you edited them out, your videos wouldn't be near as helpful. This was just another opportunity to solve a problem and the end result was great. Thanks again.
Thanks man! Yah I was not happy about the result but after a little massaging I'm pretty happy with the outcome. And its strong and doesnt look bad so thats a plus too LOL
Anodizing causes havoc on welding aluminum. Another test is magnesium blend vs cast aluminum. Pouring white vinegar on the part and seeing if it bubbles up like hydrogen peroxide. If it bubbles, something has magnesium in it, if it doesn’t, it’s just aluminum.
I love your honesty. I also loved that you said that you try and do everything 100%, but the reality is there are so many variables that a 100% result is not always easy or possible. I have welded used 10mm Aluminum with a mig, (350amp), and it was hard going. It is like soldering a joint that will just not flow sometimes, and also due to the extra amps the torch gets super hot. Great job of explaining in useful detail the pro and cons and techniques that work. Thanks
I appreciate that a lot man. Your right, there are so many ways to do the same thing. I strive to find the best way but sometimes I miss the mark, but in the end, it usually works out and I can file that learning experience for the next time. Have a great weekend man!
in hind sight because i probably would have done what you did but a nice fix may have been filling in the grove on the upper part with weld and redrilling and taping it ,also thinking tig may have helpedvs mig being able to adjust the cleaning action aiding in cooking some of the muck out ahead
That’s good project. I’m I mazed the possibility welding aluminum. I just bought spool gun to attempt try weld aluminum. What did you use to grind aluminum?? I tried before, it just meld on the pad. 😏
I start with a stainless brush then hit it lightly with a flap disc then wipe real good with acetone. You have to move real fast when welding aluminum.
you always have great advice-I run a Lincoln 360MP at work and when I do aluminum it's off a 35ft push-pull, weld all day then come home and watch someone else weld--I need help! farming Fixing and Fabricating has done a couple walk-throughs of my 9-5,the last one was titled 'last time you'll see this trailer' with a black MAS silage trailer as the cover photo
hi Brandon,Very nice video. This is one of the reasons i love your chanel. you give us newbies the real world infos that we needed to know.and show us what it really is.and explain what to do, what not to.Keep the videos and infos coming.Thanks brother. God bless you and your family and keep safe.(say hi to your wife and Colton for me)
I thought about that but knowing how the weld reacted I'm glad I didn't. This weld will hold but it's far from perfect or strong. Another viewer mentioned the stand might be made of cast and that's probably a good guess and cast is very hard to weld
Just a jaw-dropping honest vid which happens 5 times myself out of the 10. Just showing these difficulties, which at the end we shape it as we want and teach us to become better: is it the difference in alloy, would TIG put more heat in it, are the preps not right? Sometimes we have to admit, that our 5 senses let us down. Just respect for showing what happens to all of us. Overcome by complexity and accept it and fix it to the best of our ability. Enjoyed it tremendously, because life ain't perfect. Greetz and great weekend from Holland.😃💯💪❣
Thanks man. I think it might have been cast aluminum...looking at the shape and rib design makes me believe it even more but that's only a guess. If it was cast aluminum than TIG would have been a better process for sure but still not easy welding cast aluminum because you never know whats in it
Great video Brandon, thank you again. As a fellow welder, I could not agree more and I’m sure you have a lot more experience than I do have only been welding for the last 2 1/2 to 3 years. Thanks again.
As another viewer mentioned, I'm now thinking the kickstand might be a cast aluminum and the foot might not be. I think that is the issue I was having. Cast aluminum can be a huge pain to deal with.
if I recall correctly, the sound of someone striking a guy wire on a light post was used as part of the Star Wars blaster sound. This totally reminded me of that.
In realestate, the most important criteria is "Location, Location, Location"! In welding, it is "Practice, Practice, Pracitice"! So, your prep was wonderful, the settings are a good starting point, and layout/welding is what we strive for. You have shown us how and now we get to TRY!!! Hindisght is great, and I wonder if you might have filled that channel with either weld or a piece of aluminum and weld it into place and then drill and tap the hole like the original. Be well, be safe, be Blessed!!! Always love your videos.
Brandon I’m new at the welding game, I watch your videos and I get a lot out of them.I recently bought a 125 yeswelder and am having a difficult time learning this one. Speaking of learning, I want to learn how to weld alum. If u havE any videos on welding aluminum I’d like to see them Thanks ‘
Honesty is a great thing in a world with so many lies. I’ve got some clear goals that involve quality aluminum welding. I’m trying to start a furniture company and my stuff has all aluminum boxed frames. My biggest challenges are getting a machine that is more capable than the mig 250 pro yeswelder I have now. I am also struggling to buy material to work with. I am reworking the budget and stuff will get done, it’s just a pain waiting to buy what I need upfront. I’ve been thinking about getting the htp revolution, the one co designed by zila but it’s nearly $5k. Have any of you folks used one yet? After getting burned with yeswelder , I need to stop giving them money.
I have not but I also own the 250 pro and it took some time to get it adjusted properly. Right out of the box the 211P welds better in my opinion. It's what I use to weld all MIG aluminum. 5k is a lot to spend on a welder. For less than that you could buy a Fronius.
Have you seen This Old Tony's video about the HTP Revolution? I know if you watch Brandon you probably watch TOT but I wanted to recommend him just in case you are not currently a fan.
Turned out good anyways thanks for showing the imperfections most wouldn't of shown that. That really helps I'm struggling with some stainless steel any suggestions welding regular steel to a stainless steel that's what I'm making my welding table from got a 4x 6 sheet of stainless steel but gotta weld tube steel for legs
Anywhere other than where I made the cut would have been a structural weld. I'm glad I didn't because we can see how it resulted in pretty much a failure
Great video. While most of us strive to achieve perfection, unfortunately, we don't. To recover and be happy with acceptable achievements makes us learn for our past experiences.
On thicker material it definitely helps to preheat aluminum to get any moisture out, and reduce the temperature change. Also some series like 7075 aluminum is "generally' not welded because it cracks easily. All that said Great job on this video cause it is real life when welding unknown materials not everything goes perfect. You obviously know what you're doing, so I can appreciate the chance to learn something from your experience.
Pretty dang good and oh so close. Preheating the base with map gas would have helped a little. Either way you need to crank the wire speed and up the volts.
Great video thanks. I am desperate for knowledge as I like to work with Aluminum. I do not as of yet have the ability to weld aluminum. But I hope to be more prepared when I do. This was great info. Oh did you know that Firstess and Yeswelder are owned by same company?
Well done! I think I would have chosen a different tack. I would have filled in the slot depression on the leg, and drilled and tapped for the original screws to maintain originality. 😊
Brandon have you tried mig welding with the Yeswelder, arccaptain or other budget Chinese welders with only Co2? I just bought a AHP190MP and tried just the co2 from my Oxy setup and it was not liking it. I can weld very good but never tried only co2.
I have not tried just CO2. I've heard mixed reviews so I just went for the more expensive C-25. Plus the way my contract works It's not a huge difference between buying CO2 and C25.
Yea I’ve always used c25 but I wanted to make sure the welder worked. From what I read it’s tough and the better the welder the easier it is. Need super dialed settings from what I understand.
My first thought was to smelt aluminum and fill the valley before the cut. But like I said... it was my first thought. I have no idea if it would work or not.
Always appreciate the fact you show things which don't work out. Here you showed how to work with what you have but you, personally, in Your shop, with another 30 minutes, could have created a new steel arm. 😁✌🖖
That wasn’t aluminum, that was chinesium…😂 Lmao just kidding, that’s what I love about this channel. You’re honest with us, not everything is gonna turn out perfect but you just gotta keep going and keep learning.
So true Jimmy. I feel like some folks would have edited out the bad parts but we all have bad days. I'm far from perfect and not too proud to keep it real
Good job. Getting Deja Vu watching your experience welding on real life unknown materials. Perfection is the enemy of good enough :) my stuff never comes out like the 6061 channel :) Also just laying down known good filler metal/grinding it down/re-welding, frequently gives a workable result.
Personally I would have built up the lower portion of the kick stand with weld drilled and threaded it and bolted the foot back on. 67yrs old welding aluminum since 1978. I push 4043 wire all the time. 10ft whip teflon liner contact tips for aluminum wire keep the whip as strait as possible 😊
I actually wanted to drill and tap it but I didn't think I would make it look good by filling it in. It was a thought though. Maybe in hindsight that would have been the better way then I could have ground it flush and not had the empty holes that are now visible.
Hey it's the end result that counts, it'll easily hold the bike up. I run into the same kind of stuff but usually always find a way around it, and yep a grind and paint work too 👍
After a lot of practice/trial 'n error..... I've learned that if I want it to look good, TIG gives me the best chance on aluminum. [ESPECIALLY cast aluminum] I have a spool gun, & have also simply used a MIG gun (which have their place for speed/production), but when it has to hold water or look right, it's TIG 100% of the time.
Not all aluminum is weldable 7000 series and some 2000 series. I would almost say that this i probably magnesium. Great for weight to strenght ratio and would explain bolting. I agree with the vinegar test metion earlier.
I actually did off camera. I goound the piece completly bare. Another viewer commented that it could be cast aluminum. I never gave it a thought but it sure reacted as it was. My guess is that it was. The first weld went on fairly nice but as I progressed it started falling apart (like a lot of cast will)
There is no set rule. It all depends on what your doing. A small part 1/4" thick could evaporate if you were welding on the edge versus a larger piece being joined in the center. It all depends on the situation but generally yes, preheat is good on larger parts
They likely bolted it on so it could be replaced as it wears. The reason why AC is used for TIG is because the cleaning puts the heat from the part into the tungsten electrode. That causes it to overheat. So it’s usually 70/30 with 30% being cleaning. That is the equivalent of running the electrode as positive for that 30%. If you did that 70 to 100% you would melt the tungsten or even explode the tip. Not good. The cleaning burns the oxide off the aluminum. It melts at around 3600 degrees rather than the 1200 the aluminum underneath melts at, so you are actually pulling it off the surface with the current going from the part to the electrode. That allows you to TIG clean metal. But with MIG, you’re melting the wire, so you want the current to go to the wire, so it’s positive DC. That also pulls the oxide layer off, so it cleans and welds. By the way, you can’t clean that oxide off the surface, only dirt. The oxide reforms within seconds of being removed, so unless you’re doing this cleaning and welding within an argon atmosphere, you’ll always have the same problem. Last thing, if you’re using a mig gun rather than a spool gun, you have to replace the liner with a teflon one for aluminum. Since you can’t use teflon liners with anything else, you either have to remove it and replace it with a steel liner when welding steel, I just have a gun set up for aluminum. 53xx alloys are nice, but they can’t be used if the parts will be working at 150 degrees F, or above.
Tig would have been the better option. The piece was cast, and with tig you could have boiled out the impurities with the cleaning action before the actual weld was done. Live and learn.
Nothin’ a Dremel + burr grinder + a steady hand can’t fix ol’ mate. What about the holes in the foot plate? A few zaps into them to fill them up would’ve stopped you stressing about them. Imagine, riding along and everybody will be able to see 2 empty holes in the foot (base) plate 😱 😆😆😆😆 Good job bro’ We’ll done 👋👋👋
Hahhahahahahah I literally laughed out loud when I read your comment about everyone being able to see the holes not filled in. Truct me. It's crossed my mind thatit would look better if they werent there. Good inside winter project LOL I bet it will happen too.
Stalking the perfectionist in you. 🤣🤣🤣 Now that the seed has been planted we’ll see what happens I paused the vid just before the final reveal to ensure I’d get the comment in and the final product turned out pretty darn good. Still hobbled after another couple of procedures over the passed several weeks. All good, still got a couple more in a month or 2, but you copped the “release cheekiness”. 😂😂😂 😇
Hahahah yup you planted the seed and you know how I operate lol. I hope your healing well buddy. Your tough so im sure your going to get through it with flying colors. Be well buddy and I'll say a little prayer for you
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Yay! Another Lund nugget of knowledge!
@BrandonLund , I think the real reason why the foot was bolted onto the bottom of the kickstand is because it's designed to be a sacrificial part. As it wears, you can simply replace the foot with a new one from time to time instead of having to replace the entire kickstand assembly every time the foot wears out. 😉😎
I never thought of it this way but I bet your 100% correct! That's why I love this community. We put our heads together for the betterment of everyone. I appreciate it man!
My guess is the upper material is cast aluminum and the little foot at the bottom isn't. Also possible contamination in the aluminum. In a situation like this, I would use TIG with 4043 wire for filler. 4043 seems to work better on cast, but welding cast seems to always be a mess. You'll be welding along smoothly and get to the end and it will explode or droop causing cussing and frustration because of the porous cast. That's just my thoughts. Greetings from Alaska.
I think your assessment is spot on. I never gave it a thought until you just mentioned it. It sure acted as though it was. It wanted to evaporate just like cast will do. I think your right.
One more comment. Depending on the country of origin, where it was cast, I've found the metal could also be of inferior quality. But you know, that's just one of the many factors you run into when welding. I'm sure you know that. At the rate you're going, you'll be fabricating your own parts that are better and stronger. Great job and keep at it! @@BrandonLund
I always heat cast to about 400 degrees fifteen to 30 minutes before welding. That helps to get the garbage out of the pores. But TIG is better. You still have to heat it first and watch the black crap coming out.
*Agree with Shipfixer but I always superclean aluminum with Acetone (twice) just due to a lot of junk popping out of aluminum as it gets hot. Not sure if you mentioned the gas change to 100% arg from 75/25 with aluminum mig/tig but there's that issue also.*
@@1nvisible1 He did mention using 100% argon.
From what I have heard 75% argon 25% CO2 wont work at all with aluminum.
Is that true?
Nice job as usual.
Thanks Earl!
@@BrandonLund you are welcome my friend
Brandon, my favorite you tube presenters are the ones who show their not so perfect stuff. It gives guys like me hope. I just got my first welder and can’t wait to get going on it.
Thanks man and I hope you have fun!
This is easily the best welding video on TH-cam this month!
Aww man I appreciate that! It's viewers like yourself that keep this channel moving forward. I appreciate it!
Great video learning alot and not every thing comes out perfect just learn and keep going thank you do much
Thanks 👍
@3:00 .. "and I ended up with a new one for me" .. look how that worked out! I did chuckle at that bit :)
Hahahaha you gotta work your plan and plan your work 🤣🤣🤣
Good stuff, Brandon. Thanks for your honesty and also including the last few seconds showing the results of your "grinder and paint"... That looked great.
Thanks man. Making lemonade out of lemons LOL
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience
You bet!
Thanks for keeping it real! One of the things I like about your videos is how you solve problems. If you edited them out, your videos wouldn't be near as helpful. This was just another opportunity to solve a problem and the end result was great. Thanks again.
Thanks man! Yah I was not happy about the result but after a little massaging I'm pretty happy with the outcome. And its strong and doesnt look bad so thats a plus too LOL
Anodizing causes havoc on welding aluminum. Another test is magnesium blend vs cast aluminum. Pouring white vinegar on the part and seeing if it bubbles up like hydrogen peroxide. If it bubbles, something has magnesium in it, if it doesn’t, it’s just aluminum.
Huh....I just learned something today. I knew about anodizing but not the vinegar testw. I appreciate that. Good to know!👍 Thanks for sharing!
Most alum is alloy and not pure alum.
@@davidrasmussen2975 100%. What I said still applies.
Hah! Good test.
@@davidrasmussen2975thats right all aluminum has a percentage of magnesium in it
Great to watch and learn from your videos, that way able to conclude best approach to any new job. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Great video brother, always good to see you in the shop❤
Thanks man I appreciate it!
I love your honesty. I also loved that you said that you try and do everything 100%, but the reality is there are so many variables that a 100% result is not always easy or possible. I have welded used 10mm Aluminum with a mig, (350amp), and it was hard going. It is like soldering a joint that will just not flow sometimes, and also due to the extra amps the torch gets super hot. Great job of explaining in useful detail the pro and cons and techniques that work. Thanks
I appreciate that a lot man. Your right, there are so many ways to do the same thing. I strive to find the best way but sometimes I miss the mark, but in the end, it usually works out and I can file that learning experience for the next time. Have a great weekend man!
Great job on this
Thanks!
A man is only as good as his word, great video, keep'um coming..
Thank you! Will do!
in hind sight because i probably would have done what you did but a nice fix may have been filling in the grove on the upper part with weld and redrilling and taping it ,also thinking tig may have helpedvs mig being able to adjust the cleaning action aiding in cooking some of the muck out ahead
I think your right. I even thought about making a thin aluminum piece and weldeing that in then taping the holes
Thanks for the real world info,great video
Any time! Thanks for watching!
Thanks to share info about that brother
Glad to share man!
Thanks for keeping it real.
Always! Thanks man!
That’s good project. I’m I mazed the possibility welding aluminum. I just bought spool gun to attempt try weld aluminum. What did you use to grind aluminum?? I tried before, it just meld on the pad. 😏
I start with a stainless brush then hit it lightly with a flap disc then wipe real good with acetone. You have to move real fast when welding aluminum.
Thanks for the input… guess I go find some aluminum to practice on. What grids in flap disc??
you always have great advice-I run a Lincoln 360MP at work and when I do aluminum it's off a 35ft push-pull, weld all day then come home and watch someone else weld--I need help! farming Fixing and Fabricating has done a couple walk-throughs of my 9-5,the last one was titled 'last time you'll see this trailer' with a black MAS silage trailer as the cover photo
Hahaha you sound like me bud. I'm usually watching Jody, ABomb or Keth Fenner. I'll have to check that vid out bud!
Thanks Brandon, looks great . Fred.
Thanks Fred! 👍
Good learning experience! 👌👍
Thank you! 😃
A lot of good information here. Ty very much for the real world of aluminum.
Thanks man!
hi Brandon,Very nice video. This is one of the reasons i love your chanel. you give us newbies the real world infos that we needed to know.and show us what it really is.and explain what to do, what not to.Keep the videos and infos coming.Thanks brother. God bless you and your family and keep safe.(say hi to your wife and Colton for me)
I sure will brother and thank you! God Bless to you and your family!
Could you cut the shaft mid section and raise up the lower shaft leaving the replaceable foot?
I thought about that but knowing how the weld reacted I'm glad I didn't. This weld will hold but it's far from perfect or strong. Another viewer mentioned the stand might be made of cast and that's probably a good guess and cast is very hard to weld
Just a jaw-dropping honest vid which happens 5 times myself out of the 10. Just showing these difficulties, which at the end we shape it as we want and teach us to become better: is it the difference in alloy, would TIG put more heat in it, are the preps not right? Sometimes we have to admit, that our 5 senses let us down. Just respect for showing what happens to all of us. Overcome by complexity and accept it and fix it to the best of our ability. Enjoyed it tremendously, because life ain't perfect. Greetz and great weekend from Holland.😃💯💪❣
Thanks man. I think it might have been cast aluminum...looking at the shape and rib design makes me believe it even more but that's only a guess. If it was cast aluminum than TIG would have been a better process for sure but still not easy welding cast aluminum because you never know whats in it
Grinding can do miracle! Good job! Just bought myself a 3D printer will try my hands at it.
I bet that's going to be a lot of fun once you get it sorted out
Great video Brandon, thank you again. As a fellow welder, I could not agree more and I’m sure you have a lot more experience than I do have only been welding for the last 2 1/2 to 3 years. Thanks again.
Thanks brother I appreciate your support 👊
Is the foot some other alloy mix?
As another viewer mentioned, I'm now thinking the kickstand might be a cast aluminum and the foot might not be. I think that is the issue I was having. Cast aluminum can be a huge pain to deal with.
if I recall correctly, the sound of someone striking a guy wire on a light post was used as part of the Star Wars blaster sound. This totally reminded me of that.
Now that you mention it, it does! Lol
In realestate, the most important criteria is "Location, Location, Location"! In welding, it is "Practice, Practice, Pracitice"! So, your prep was wonderful, the settings are a good starting point, and layout/welding is what we strive for. You have shown us how and now we get to TRY!!! Hindisght is great, and I wonder if you might have filled that channel with either weld or a piece of aluminum and weld it into place and then drill and tap the hole like the original. Be well, be safe, be Blessed!!! Always love your videos.
Thats actually a pretty great idea then I could have bolted the foot back on 🙏 I hope you have a grerat weekend buddy!
The joy of unknown material! Lol! Like you said, can't always be in complete control! Great video, Brandon! Thanks for your time and sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Brandon I’m new at the welding game, I watch your videos and I get a lot out of them.I recently bought a 125 yeswelder and am having a difficult time learning this one. Speaking of learning, I want to learn how to weld alum. If u havE any videos on welding aluminum I’d like to see them
Thanks
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I actually have a few videos welding aluminum that might be useful. Good luck on your journey. I appreciate your kind words. If
Honesty is a great thing in a world with so many lies.
I’ve got some clear goals that involve quality aluminum welding. I’m trying to start a furniture company and my stuff has all aluminum boxed frames. My biggest challenges are getting a machine that is more capable than the mig 250 pro yeswelder I have now. I am also struggling to buy material to work with. I am reworking the budget and stuff will get done, it’s just a pain waiting to buy what I need upfront.
I’ve been thinking about getting the htp revolution, the one co designed by zila but it’s nearly $5k.
Have any of you folks used one yet? After getting burned with yeswelder , I need to stop giving them money.
I have not but I also own the 250 pro and it took some time to get it adjusted properly. Right out of the box the 211P welds better in my opinion. It's what I use to weld all MIG aluminum. 5k is a lot to spend on a welder. For less than that you could buy a Fronius.
Have you seen This Old Tony's video about the HTP Revolution?
I know if you watch Brandon you probably watch TOT but I wanted to recommend him just in case you are not currently a fan.
Thanks for showing us reality "warts and all".
As long as it doesn't fall off, it is great.
Absolutely!
Turned out good anyways thanks for showing the imperfections most wouldn't of shown that. That really helps I'm struggling with some stainless steel any suggestions welding regular steel to a stainless steel that's what I'm making my welding table from got a 4x 6 sheet of stainless steel but gotta weld tube steel for legs
Thanks! Yes you can. You can use mig and c25 gas.
@@BrandonLund ok thank you
Why didn't you make the cut further up and closer to the mount? That's what I would have done but just wanted your reasons? Regards
Anywhere other than where I made the cut would have been a structural weld. I'm glad I didn't because we can see how it resulted in pretty much a failure
Great video. While most of us strive to achieve perfection, unfortunately, we don't. To recover and be happy with acceptable achievements makes us learn for our past experiences.
Well said! 👌 thank you! 🙏
On thicker material it definitely helps to preheat aluminum to get any moisture out, and reduce the temperature change. Also some series like 7075 aluminum is "generally' not welded because it cracks easily. All that said Great job on this video cause it is real life when welding unknown materials not everything goes perfect. You obviously know what you're doing, so I can appreciate the chance to learn something from your experience.
Thank you very much!
Pretty dang good and oh so close. Preheating the base with map gas would have helped a little. Either way you need to crank the wire speed and up the volts.
Great video thanks. I am desperate for knowledge as I like to work with Aluminum. I do not as of yet have the ability to weld aluminum. But I hope to be more prepared when I do. This was great info. Oh did you know that Firstess and Yeswelder are owned by same company?
No I didn't know that. Good to know! Thanks man!
Well done! I think I would have chosen a different tack. I would have filled in the slot depression on the leg, and drilled and tapped for the original screws to maintain originality. 😊
Whatever works for your workflow. There is always more than one way to arrive at the end result 👍
Sorry about the spool gun experience. I love the bike though! KTM are awesome!
Thanks man! More to come with the bikes too :)
Brandon have you tried mig welding with the Yeswelder, arccaptain or other budget Chinese welders with only Co2? I just bought a AHP190MP and tried just the co2 from my Oxy setup and it was not liking it. I can weld very good but never tried only co2.
I have not tried just CO2. I've heard mixed reviews so I just went for the more expensive C-25. Plus the way my contract works It's not a huge difference between buying CO2 and C25.
Yea I’ve always used c25 but I wanted to make sure the welder worked. From what I read it’s tough and the better the welder the easier it is. Need super dialed settings from what I understand.
Or possibly if you Tig welded with a/c cleaning…as you mentioned. Ty
It's possible. Thanks man!
I wonder if the foot is a serviceable item, something that can be worn out and then replaced?
Someone else brought this up also. I think your right. It must be. I didn't think of it at the time.
My first thought was to smelt aluminum and fill the valley before the cut. But like I said... it was my first thought. I have no idea if it would work or not.
We used mig cast aluminum and it’s usually a mess. Preheat can help, but keeping your expectations low is the smart path…
Im thinking that is what I was dealing with
Always appreciate the fact you show things which don't work out.
Here you showed how to work with what you have but you, personally, in Your
shop, with another 30 minutes, could have created a new steel arm. 😁✌🖖
I appreciate that! Thanks for your support and kind words
That wasn’t aluminum, that was chinesium…😂 Lmao just kidding, that’s what I love about this channel. You’re honest with us, not everything is gonna turn out perfect but you just gotta keep going and keep learning.
So true Jimmy. I feel like some folks would have edited out the bad parts but we all have bad days. I'm far from perfect and not too proud to keep it real
@@BrandonLund Yes sir, I love it… Real life problems
Yes Sir.
Thanks Paul!
Good job. Getting Deja Vu watching your experience welding on real life unknown materials. Perfection is the enemy of good enough :) my stuff never comes out like the 6061 channel :) Also just laying down known good filler metal/grinding it down/re-welding, frequently gives a workable result.
I couldn't agree more and your comment about grinding and rewelding is as about real world as it can get. I cant count the times I've had to do that
Could using an heat insulator under the foot help, it looks as though the steel table was really pulling the heat out.
as actually needing it to. It was overheating pretty bad. You can see how it changed color on right before I painted it.
Personally I would have built up the lower portion of the kick stand with weld drilled and threaded it and bolted the foot back on. 67yrs old welding aluminum since 1978. I push 4043 wire all the time. 10ft whip teflon liner contact tips for aluminum wire keep the whip as strait as possible 😊
I actually wanted to drill and tap it but I didn't think I would make it look good by filling it in. It was a thought though. Maybe in hindsight that would have been the better way then I could have ground it flush and not had the empty holes that are now visible.
Some Al isn’t weld able I forget the series but it’s really hard
Someone mentioned it might be cast aluminum.
100% Good enough!👍🤙
Thanks! 😁
@@BrandonLund Sure thing Bro!👍🤙
It’s very interesting to see how 1 person can preform the same project with a different prespective
Thanks Chris!
Hey it's the end result that counts, it'll easily hold the bike up. I run into the same kind of stuff but usually always find a way around it, and yep a grind and paint work too 👍
Hahahaha they sure do lol
After a lot of practice/trial 'n error..... I've learned that if I want it to look good, TIG gives me the best chance on aluminum. [ESPECIALLY cast aluminum]
I have a spool gun, & have also simply used a MIG gun (which have their place for speed/production), but when it has to hold water or look right, it's TIG 100% of the time.
Spot on 👌
Not all aluminum is weldable 7000 series and some 2000 series. I would almost say that this i probably magnesium. Great for weight to strenght ratio and would explain bolting. I agree with the vinegar test metion earlier.
I had never heard of the vinegar test but you can bet I'll be trying it in the near future. Thanks man! 👍
why not drill it out and tap it into the new welds you added? I would think ir is going to fall off because it doesn;t look like it got hot enough
If it does I'll probably try to tig it next time
Maybe practice on the piece you cut off before welding the final piece. But who thought it would have gone the way it did? Looks good to me.
I actually did off camera. I goound the piece completly bare. Another viewer commented that it could be cast aluminum. I never gave it a thought but it sure reacted as it was. My guess is that it was. The first weld went on fairly nice but as I progressed it started falling apart (like a lot of cast will)
Little bit of preheat
It was actaully overheating. Even with it clamped to the table it was falling apart. I think it might have been cast aluminum.
Not sure it would help in your case but maybe try alum weld flux
Pre heat might have helped maybe evan needed to use 5356 instead
I think I was getting too much heat but the 5356 is very possible.
I’m pretty sure anything bigger than 1/8 inch is supposed to be preheated for better penetration, heavier materials tend to give you cold lap
There is no set rule. It all depends on what your doing. A small part 1/4" thick could evaporate if you were welding on the edge versus a larger piece being joined in the center. It all depends on the situation but generally yes, preheat is good on larger parts
If you cut it a bit above the two screw then cut your spacing out & welded it you would have welded good aluminum to good aluminum.
Looks Good !
Oh man! I bet you anything that pad on the bottom of the kickstand was a softer metal than the shaft making it difficult to lay down a good pass!
She stuck on there and can be cleaned up so good job👍👍👍
They likely bolted it on so it could be replaced as it wears.
The reason why AC is used for TIG is because the cleaning puts the heat from the part into the tungsten electrode. That causes it to overheat. So it’s usually 70/30 with 30% being cleaning. That is the equivalent of running the electrode as positive for that 30%. If you did that 70 to 100% you would melt the tungsten or even explode the tip. Not good. The cleaning burns the oxide off the aluminum. It melts at around 3600 degrees rather than the 1200 the aluminum underneath melts at, so you are actually pulling it off the surface with the current going from the part to the electrode. That allows you to TIG clean metal.
But with MIG, you’re melting the wire, so you want the current to go to the wire, so it’s positive DC. That also pulls the oxide layer off, so it cleans and welds. By the way, you can’t clean that oxide off the surface, only dirt. The oxide reforms within seconds of being removed, so unless you’re doing this cleaning and welding within an argon atmosphere, you’ll always have the same problem. Last thing, if you’re using a mig gun rather than a spool gun, you have to replace the liner with a teflon one for aluminum. Since you can’t use teflon liners with anything else, you either have to remove it and replace it with a steel liner when welding steel, I just have a gun set up for aluminum. 53xx alloys are nice, but they can’t be used if the parts will be working at 150 degrees F, or above.
Well said brother!
Good to see that even the best run into trouble sometimes. Thanks for sharing!!!!! Have a great weekend! Let’s go Brandon!!! 🇺🇸👍🏻
Thanks! You too!
Your weld was too cold. Higher amps and the bottom should have been warmed up first as the steel table pulled a lot of heat away
Not really. It evaporated after the first weld which is why I think it was cast aluminum.
Tig would have been the better option. The piece was cast, and with tig you could have boiled out the impurities with the cleaning action before the actual weld was done. Live and learn.
Very true!
I thought you were going to show cleaning up the weld but I guess not.
I could have but it was basically me grinding for 15 minutes :)
You certainly can Tig weld aluminum on DC.
Althought I have never tried, I've seen it done.
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Thanks brother!
Nothin’ a Dremel + burr grinder + a steady hand can’t fix ol’ mate.
What about the holes in the foot plate? A few zaps into them to fill them up would’ve stopped you stressing about them. Imagine, riding along and everybody will be able to see 2 empty holes in the foot (base) plate 😱
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Good job bro’
We’ll done
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Hahhahahahahah I literally laughed out loud when I read your comment about everyone being able to see the holes not filled in. Truct me. It's crossed my mind thatit would look better if they werent there. Good inside winter project LOL I bet it will happen too.
Stalking the perfectionist in you. 🤣🤣🤣
Now that the seed has been planted we’ll see what happens
I paused the vid just before the final reveal to ensure I’d get the comment in and the final product turned out pretty darn good.
Still hobbled after another couple of procedures over the passed several weeks. All good, still got a couple more in a month or 2, but you copped the “release cheekiness”.
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Hahahah yup you planted the seed and you know how I operate lol. I hope your healing well buddy. Your tough so im sure your going to get through it with flying colors. Be well buddy and I'll say a little prayer for you