Grouting a Block Wall
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Agree that the guys doing the work and solving the real world problems that always exist deserve more recognition ... thank you for doing so.
I swear, the production quality of these vids is way better than anything on tv especially this old house. This includes the narration and guest speakers.
And the information in detail.
Its because those shows arent about teaching you things they are about selling you things first and foremost.
Agreed- totally worth it
This old house is for snobs
Especially this old house? Get out of here
"this guy gets it" great aside there, Nate! good to see a continuation of Phoenix stuff, change of pace, variety. well done video work. Darrell
It's awesome to hear your voice and see you in some of these newer videos Nate! Great content, story and editing :)
Cool to see how different foundations are built. Learning a lot to apply as we go through our home build! This and the Spec House series are great to learn from!
Watching skilled craftsmen pouring concrete to a nice tune with a 7/8 time signature... what a great day
Ah man too short. Wish I could see that project going up. It looks fantastic. Great work.
They had an earlier video showing them putting the blocks in place:
th-cam.com/video/qJhAL7upAtg/w-d-xo.html
Great job Nate, excellent filmmaking and nice to hear your voice. As always, keep up the good work!
Those look like they'll be some massive shacks! Thanks for taking us on a field trip!
great content Nate. Its good to see men work who enjoy working
Exceptional opening shots and music choice Nate!
Some good knowledge there, thanks 👍 seems like the stepoc wall system we sometimes use here in the UK, mainly for retaining structures.
Impressive job site. Thanks for sharing
Keep up the good work!
Great illustration 👌 and information.
Thanks for the awesome content and great video!
impressive! your right, a ton of thought to achieve a quality job
Gotta be hell of a house to start out with site prep and foundations that cost several hundred thousand bucks. Add in the size and views, gonna be a lot of money.
1:20 when someone brought cerveza for lunch!
Nice work. Thanks.
I'd forget instatntly to which cell I just put the rebar. One guy seemed to keep his hand where he put the last rebar to keep track, but some of them just seemed to remember. If I did that many cells would have multiple rebars and then there'd be gaps with no rebar xD
You and me both lol
When it comes to grouted block I always fall back to feeling it would be easier and overall less costly to pour solid walls. I’ve lived with both grouted and un-grouted block and right or wrong just have come to the belief a solid poured wall is better and stronger. I have gone to the side of poured into place insulated form-work which adds a bit of cost in the foam forms but lowers the cost in not having to bring in and remove forms. Ultimately grouted block must be cheaper where they are otherwise they’d be pouring.
We were just talking the other day how concrete work has changed over the years as costs have risen as you can tell just how cheap concrete used to be by how much it was used on some jobs as I’ve seen it used almost like fill as it was easier or cheaper than bringing in stone with pours of sidewalk blocks and floors well over a foot thick. And some of the old concrete can be insanely hard stuff.
I was wondering exactly that, how is it that block wall is still built? It must be cheaper, at least in some parts of the country.
Well it’s cheaper because you don’t have the form work it can take a week to form one wall and set your rebar walls then pour it in one day these guys can lay up a 5 foot wall and pour it the next day and wet stick the rebar it’s not as strong buts it’s ten times more efficient oh and I forgot to mention you don’t have to strip any forms pour the grout and it’s finished product 🇺🇸
@@calebthacker2162 That hasn't been what I've experienced in the NE. We built an addition on a 4' poured frost wall about 100' total length of wall. 2 guys formed and pump truck poured the footings by noon on day 1. Came back the next day, formed the 4' tall walls by 3:00. Day 3 was wall pour with pump truck again, took about an hour. Day 4 was strip forms, and load truck, maybe a couple hours. Accurate work too, level, straight and square within 1/4" max.
I just can't see anyone building a block wall with less worker hours, or fewer days.
@@chrisking6740 key words you used 4th day you was stripping the forms exactly my point on the fourth day you’re just getting around to stripping the forms what about your material coast if nothing else your 2/4 cost just for kickers and bracing to pour it in place it’s no where near as efficient and cost way more money to pour a concrete wall period have a good one 👍🇺🇸
@@calebthacker2162: Climate may be a factor as in NY pours tend to be in insulated forms which stay in place and go together like Legos quite quickly with rebar just clipping in. Block isn’t used a whole lot but when I still see it it typically isn’t grouted. Thermal mass is a big reason for both poured and grouted block as it can stabilize temps quite nicely but in NY thermal breaking has become a big thing with concrete to limit heat transferring to cool and visa versa with poured floors even having polystyrene insulation under them.
Are you sure these are homes not Walmarts? They are huge
MV: Unless you have 15 kids this is just overkill, and the day will come in this country when building behemoths like this will be abhorrent and be recognized for the waste they are.
Impressive!
Good music for a good video. Good choice. Thanks
That is very, very impressive
Wow these homes are gonna be no joke!
First I would like to say nice work there. But you made an important point. I am a painter and had a construction company. If the trades before yours are done shotty it makes it hard for the rest following to look good. Thanks for another cool video
We have done many demolition jobs around this area👍👍👍
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I can't help but wonder how many additional days this takes over just pouring a concrete wall
Same thought I had.
Often there is not much in it. Sure it can take blocklayers a while to get a wall up, but the formwork to cast them in concrete is not small job either. Be interesting to do a time and cost comparison.
About same time, concrete wall might be a little more pricey they take in way more rebar. I done wall my whole life and we build them super quick
@@camelbackcustommasonry1805 And there is no wasted formwork either...
Maybe in another life I would have been a mason. Love this series, makes me want to go back into brick/mortar/tile/stone work. Been doing electrical for 20+ years now, though, so I think I will stick to it.
Never too late to pick up a new skill!
@@ThePjd2012 I did paver work before I joined the Navy, loved it. Spent 20 years in the Navy doing industrial electrical work. Now that I am out I wouldn't mind going back into masonry, but it is a lot easier to just keep doing electrical work for the shipyard.
2:00 thank you for this information. You would be surprised how many videos I have watched trying to see if anyone says anything about pouring these big walls in more than one pour, like if that's even allowed. You are the first person to have said anything about it. So I guess it is allowed then.
Looks like Hapshetsut's place. Holy moly.
Pamela! love your reference! 'n yeah, it does doesn't it?
I love your channel! We used to work like this in NYC 15 years ago, but if we continued to do what is shown in this video, we would have been shut down with stop work order by building department for at least 4 immediately hazardous conditions. Everyplace is different tho.
Incredible view from up there! It's gonna be a nice home but I hate to see the desert disappear.
I estimate civil/concrete work and from an installation and cost standpoint grouted masonry wall with properly spliced (lap length) rebar is cost effective up to 10-12 feet in height. Beyond that the extra work involved in building and maintaining scaffolding starts to even out the cost. Most form suppliers (Symons, Peri, DOKA) have built in slots in the forms for scaffold brackets. As far as the comment on 2x4 bracing, form ties can eliminate 75-80% or more of the kicker/bracing requirements. obviously dependent on actual job situation.
When the grout filled the first courses a few days earlier did they stop half block or did they flush it with the last block ?
thank you Nate well done !
how long before Arizona runs out of Water
when is the building moratorium going to hit
AZ is ALREADY out of water.
They have tapped into the aquifer of fossil water that is not being recharged. It is a fools dream to live there.
Just had the conversation about the risk we take as the contractor, with a vendor the other day.
This is great channel .
Imagine the weight of that cement in those walls ...🤔
What's the advantage of this vs a cast in place wall? Money, time, strength? Curious
Concrete block is cheaper, cinder block even more
@@kendrickdelosreyes5381 I cannot understand how that's possible. Formwork goes up and comes down quickly and is reusable. Either wall gets filled with concrete and rebar. I'm genuinely curious how a block wall is less expensive than a poured wall.
I'm curious as well. In my region in Canada we see everything 8-9ft deep footings with pour in place. The pour happens the next afternoon the crew starts the forming. Seems very quick. Any exposed concrete above grade is then parged with stucco and looks fine. I wonder why block and grout is used. If you wanted the strength surely you could just tighten the grid spacing for pour in place to be the same 8 inch center as block. Or add more fibers/nylon sticks to the concrete.
@@chrisking6740 Yeah it is a Little counterintuitive, but I suspect it’s bc you can use a lower quality concrete on the concrete block wall since you’re just holding the wall together whereas with the form wall , the actual strength comes from the concrete itself. Preforming the walls too I imagine requires more labor
When was this filmed?
How were you sure the wet stuffed rebar came into contact with the dowels below?
Where are you still getting those craftsman boots?
Why not use bond beam for all the wall except of course the ends ?
Nobody has ever been able to answer this question
Nice. Always good to see hard work and hard workers doing it. Question: I noticed that your grout is very wet. How does this affect the strength of the finished product?
It dries
@@oelschlegel No, it doesn't. It forms a hydrate with the other minerals in the mix.
@@oelschlegel Excess water causes all kinds of problems when it dries, including shrinkage and cracking, which decreases strength. My question is concerning the grout inside the block and its contribution to the strength of the wall. Is the strength of the grout significant, or is it just a convenient filler to keep there re-bar "glued" to the block?
Tucson Arizona???
walls look pretty thin to hold all that dirt, what's difference half concrete and half masonry vs. all concrete?
Contracting is all about transferring risk to the last guy in line.
PEW concrete - I noticed your man stuffing rebar into the grout during pour. What was the lap length?
A couple of nice, modest homes there. 🤣
What are the ingredients to structural grout?
They keep building new homes as the water supply shrinks!
You can’t mistake the AZ desert and Scottsdale landscape.
That worker standing atop the blocks and handling the concrete pump hose…
When push comes to shove, I want him on my side!
Hopefully no pushing or shoving or it’s a 20 ft fall and possibly a lifetime on the sidelines. Risking his livelihood for the sake of putting up some scaff? Real man.
Heeeyyy is that Demin Jones
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I can't imagine how much all that costs.
This was my exact thought. Would love to have just a ballpark idea.
Rebar rusts ?
No worries it looks like Arizona. They only get like 1/4” of rain a year there
it looked like there was a vertical seam in part of the wall... it looked like it went all the way... WHY? it show's up at 4:59.
Just remember kids, it's not a screw up until the concrete is poured.
Only thing that I, as just a casual viewer who knows nothing of the trade but is interested in learning, was missing is just a brief explanation of what the purpose of filling walls with grout is. And also what the difference between grout and concrete is?
I know, it’s super basic, but it would make the video more instructive for casual viewers.
Thank you.
More crack resistance and stronger.
@@anthonydesisto2328 thank you!
The strength in a grouted wall is way more than leaving the block hollow.
I did many grouted block walls in Manhattan…….. mostly with #4 Rebar. Using #5 and #6 is serious reinforcing
Why you dont use wider blocks? Thats..20 cm wide in Eu..we use those for fences😄..for stronger walls we go 30 cm wide ..and we dont cement on the sides..they just go tongue and grove.
How come you folks don't use groutlock block? Seems like it would be less work and is designed to work well structurally with grout.
Seems a bit extreme. I am interested in how hard it is to obtain a city block square sized chunk of prime mountain hillside with a view. It seems like a premium parcel of land.
Where is Scott Wadsworth?
I sure hope they did a lot of drainage work.
Scott, pop in over to Cole the CornStar’s Chanel. His videos about bin collapse. He needs some expert concrete advice.
4:02 Missed one...
The irony being that's the guy that the cameraman said "he gets it". Quality, not quantity boys!! lol
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An 8' wide footing? Why?
Crazy. I keep hearing about homes being walked away from because of the new rising tide of interest rates and material costs like concrete. Unless this guy paid cash I can only imagine this house being abandoned while under construction.
I noticed that the rebar pieces they are shoving down the block appear to be different lengths with some even having a 90 degree turn on one end. The fact that they are not tied to the footing rebar leads me to believe they are scrap pieces just being added for extra strength rather than discarding them. The wall must also be at the finished level given that they do not have rebar protruding out the top , which you would need to do in order to pass inspection. It is interesting that an engineer would have required an 8 foot wide footing as this seems excessive. I will be building a house soon in a flood plane and will have a 14 foot wall in which the framing will set on. It will be interesting to see what my engineer will require as far as the footing size will be.
they are cantilevered retaining walls which is why the footing is so big
To keep America strong, sometimes you build with masonry.
cool
I likes Nates part in essential craftsman much better. Hes short simple and not to full of himself.
Don't diss Scott here or you'll get walked off the plank.
Interesting engineering decision not to tie the steel verts tied to the one's below or at least the horizontal bars. Without tying it all together that reo isn't really doing much at all IMO
Something tells me TH-cam doesn't like your videos anymore. With 1.2M subscribers, you guys should way more views for how long this video has been up. Maybe Twitter will monetize videos soon.
A lot of people putting in the work. Too bad it's a huge waste of resources for gratuitous, likely awful homes. But do come back and show the final product, I'd be less depressed if the end result wasn't hot garbage.
I'm not a mason BUT wouldn't it be faster and stronger to use a poured concrete wall. I don't know how much of a p[rice difference between the two.
I feel like that scaffolding is unnecessarily low - everyone is working above shoulder height, except for the hose guy who is working below waist ..
Takes a toll
If it is not seen then it’s is not appreciated.. no matter how much skill or effort and planning it took
Building where nobody has any business living.
This is urban sprawl.
Causing you to drive further and causing the city to maintain more and more infrastructure.
Great video though, keep up the good work.
poor form installing the reinforcement post grout injection with no consideration of bar placement or development lap lengths. I aw some installed central, others back face rest front face. The engineer wouldnt be happy to see this.
Who determines the method of execution in the field?
I have no experience but I came here for this comment. From a structural point of view I thought the same.
It's an acceptable way to do it. Maybe not 100% optimal but it is within the parameters of acceptability. I'm sure the inspectors would approve this especially seeing as they documented the pour and placement of rebar. If there is something wrong with it do you really think they would put it into a film documentary?
Not to mention the "toy sized" vibrating poker and the one single second he gave each cell.
I use a bigger poker for tiny jobs, and it needs to go in the mix until you see it visibly slump and settle.
@@KenHill ...poorly executed stuff online allll the time Ken :-)
The rebar is required by electrical code to be tied together for bonding purposes. Fail
Big? Sure. Impressive? I guess. Not quite sure how many kids these home owners have but it sure seems like too much house. Waaaay too much house. The day will come when America looks back and realizes how ridiculous and wasteful a house this size really is.
Sounds like someone's got a case of the broke ass
@@bigvegass beats being the guy with the case of the smart ass
This would be way too weak and underbuilt where I am
Teriffic content. Applause.