I believe that track length is a preference like they said; depends on what you do. But I think that a riders weight also plays on what size you need. I’m a hefty guy at 250lbs and I find a 165” is perfect! You can get up hills that even a more experienced rider can’t on a shorter sled and you can stay on edge easier as well. Around here (and maybe everywhere else) 154” is king and anything longer is just absurd. But you really can’t feel much of a difference while riding, at least with a 165”.
I have a 154 and a 165, i like how playful the 154 is, but i love how forgiving the 165 is. I really feel as if i can take my time to pick lines with my 165 vs my 154
Great info guys. I agree that 163/165 are the best all around. I also feel living out West and for someone who always 7,000 feet and above turbo is really needed
Preference, but what a 6' plus size dude prefers for certain things will probably be different then what a shorter lighter rider prefers for the excact same reasons. For me, a 5'9" 190lb, I like the 154, just feels and handles more nimble. When Im on a 165, when im wheelieing, I feel really high up off the ground and off balance a lot of the time. I would rather be a bit lower and on balance. So I would say height and weight is a big deciding factor. A taller, heavier rider is gonna be able to wheelie a 165 like a smaller guy wheelies a 154.
My 2006 Ski Doo is only 121" haha I've never broken powder like you Gents! Its always packed groomed trails between Ohio, PA, and NY. It gets kind of boring. I'm waiting for some fields of powder to go tear up and get stuck in!
Back in the 90's 136 was a long-track 121 was regular and old 80's Yamaha's were118...christ I'm old...lol...still have 5 and a half sleds from the middle 90's just for ditch banging, left over from getting disabled in 03...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
I used to hill climb with a 136, 2 inch track. The longest track back in those days was a 142 or 144 I cant remember now. I sold my Artic Cat 580 Mountain Cat in the spring of 99. The manufacturers were coming out with 151 etc. My opinion is 164 is overkill in my personal opinion. They don't maneuver well on trails and are a nightmare to turn around.
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We think Dave's point is that, for him, it's more fun to just go where you want to go more easily, rather than get stuck a bunch in deep snow on a shorter track (even if that does as you say teach someone to ride better). But yeah, we agree that short tracks are fun and challenging in deep snow! So it's really up to the individual, where and how they like to ride. He's just sharing his own perspective, and we agree with it for many people, especially those who don't have a lot of time to ride and just want to get out there, go places and have a good time. Thanks for watching!
@@sleddermag I want to have a sled that goes where I want, especially through steep/deep tight trees. I also want a high fun factor on more open slopes. I’m stuck between Boost 155” Pro, or Boost 165” Khaos, or possibly a turbo 154/165 expert. Snowchecking soon and overwhelmed by options lol. Currently ride a NA 800 Axys 155 x 2.4”. I’m also open to an NA sled. Ride exclusively interior BC.
Not true at all muskoka free rider rides a 146 in deep deep pow look him up he’s the reason I don’t want a long track I want a 155 because I know I can get anywhere a 163 or 165 will it just takes for speed and technique it’s mostly about the rider
As Dave points out in the video, not everyone can ride like Cody McNolty (or Matt from Muskoka Freerider). For those who don't, it will be easier, less tiring and more enjoyable to go to the same places on a 165" or longer track sled. We agree with you that a 154-155" track length is super fun and capable for many riders in most conditions. That's what many riders in our area prefer for the snow conditions we typically have here. Just don't expect to be able to keep up with a Rob Alford or Carl Kuster on their 175" on a deep day in Revy, because it ain't happening! Trust us on that one, we learned the hard way, lol. Thanks for watching!
I have a 154 with no turbo and I love it. It does great!!!
I sold my 2017 skidoo 850 165x3 to get a 2019 skidoo 850 146x2.5 and I love it it!!
I believe that track length is a preference like they said; depends on what you do. But I think that a riders weight also plays on what size you need. I’m a hefty guy at 250lbs and I find a 165” is perfect! You can get up hills that even a more experienced rider can’t on a shorter sled and you can stay on edge easier as well. Around here (and maybe everywhere else) 154” is king and anything longer is just absurd. But you really can’t feel much of a difference while riding, at least with a 165”.
I have a 154 and a 165, i like how playful the 154 is, but i love how forgiving the 165 is. I really feel as if i can take my time to pick lines with my 165 vs my 154
Dave Norona;That guy do have a Great Energy.Very well explained. :)
Great info guys. I agree that 163/165 are the best all around. I also feel living out West and for someone who always 7,000 feet and above turbo is really needed
Turbo isn’t needed at all. It’s just really fucking fun !!! 😂
Preference, but what a 6' plus size dude prefers for certain things will probably be different then what a shorter lighter rider prefers for the excact same reasons. For me, a 5'9" 190lb, I like the 154, just feels and handles more nimble. When Im on a 165, when im wheelieing, I feel really high up off the ground and off balance a lot of the time. I would rather be a bit lower and on balance. So I would say height and weight is a big deciding factor. A taller, heavier rider is gonna be able to wheelie a 165 like a smaller guy wheelies a 154.
Ever try a wheelie on a 175? It feels like you're in space! lol. Thanks for watching!
That's brilliant!
My 2006 Ski Doo is only 121" haha I've never broken powder like you Gents! Its always packed groomed trails between Ohio, PA, and NY. It gets kind of boring. I'm waiting for some fields of powder to go tear up and get stuck in!
My 2005 Summit 600 144” was a revelation for me and to this day one of my favourite sleds I’ve owned. So fun.
Back in the 90's 136 was a long-track 121 was regular and old 80's Yamaha's were118...christ I'm old...lol...still have 5 and a half sleds from the middle 90's just for ditch banging, left over from getting disabled in 03...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
good tips thank you!
175" (!) ❤ Is the Ski-Doo 850 Turbo 175" the most extreme mountain sled on the market? 😎 Asking for a friend. 😅
I have to ride 20 miles of trails to get to the steeps. 175” would wear me out before I got to the good stuff.
163 means less stuck but 154 means more wheelie. 175 is just way to long.
I used to hill climb with a 136, 2 inch track. The longest track back in those days was a 142 or 144 I cant remember now. I sold my Artic Cat 580 Mountain Cat in the spring of 99. The manufacturers were coming out with 151 etc. My opinion is 164 is overkill in my personal opinion. They don't maneuver well on trails and are a nightmare to turn around.
154 with 3" m770 track
3 in lugs are good at moving a lot of snow and digging holes
What is the name of your avalanche backpack ?
Dave is using the Klim Aspect 16. The other rider is using the Highmark Guide. Thanks for watching!
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129 is the best
Ниxuya не понятно но очень интересно !
Ride a 155, and it will teach you to ride better.
We think Dave's point is that, for him, it's more fun to just go where you want to go more easily, rather than get stuck a bunch in deep snow on a shorter track (even if that does as you say teach someone to ride better).
But yeah, we agree that short tracks are fun and challenging in deep snow! So it's really up to the individual, where and how they like to ride. He's just sharing his own perspective, and we agree with it for many people, especially those who don't have a lot of time to ride and just want to get out there, go places and have a good time.
Thanks for watching!
@@sleddermag I want to have a sled that goes where I want, especially through steep/deep tight trees. I also want a high fun factor on more open slopes. I’m stuck between Boost 155” Pro, or Boost 165” Khaos, or possibly a turbo 154/165 expert. Snowchecking soon and overwhelmed by options lol. Currently ride a NA 800 Axys 155 x 2.4”. I’m also open to an NA sled. Ride exclusively interior BC.
Not true at all muskoka free rider rides a 146 in deep deep pow look him up he’s the reason I don’t want a long track I want a 155 because I know I can get anywhere a 163 or 165 will it just takes for speed and technique it’s mostly about the rider
As Dave points out in the video, not everyone can ride like Cody McNolty (or Matt from Muskoka Freerider). For those who don't, it will be easier, less tiring and more enjoyable to go to the same places on a 165" or longer track sled.
We agree with you that a 154-155" track length is super fun and capable for many riders in most conditions. That's what many riders in our area prefer for the snow conditions we typically have here. Just don't expect to be able to keep up with a Rob Alford or Carl Kuster on their 175" on a deep day in Revy, because it ain't happening! Trust us on that one, we learned the hard way, lol.
Thanks for watching!
Don't forget rider weight, bigger, heavier riders need more length, having a problem taking Dave serious with that hair.
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