Which One is RIGHT for You? Gen5 Summit X vs. Expert w/ Dave Norona

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
  • Dave Norona joins Mountain Sledder to help point out a) the key differences between the Gen5 Ski-Doo Summit X and Expert Package models, b) how those affect the ride characteristic, and c) some advice to help riders decide which Gen5 model might be better suited for their own riding style and preferences.
    For model year 2023, the Expert Package utilizes some key changes that significantly increase the precision of the sled. These include the DS4 ski, a new PowderMax X-Light 3″ track with full width rods, and the newly designed t-Motion XT rear suspension with a fixed (non-pivoting) rear arm, with details pointed out by Dave.
    For more info on all the differences between the Summit X Expert Package model and others in the Summit lineup, see our video here:
    • 2023 Ski Doo Summit Ex...
    We hope you found this video helpful! If you have any questions, please leave them in the comments, and thanks for watching!
    As always, you can find more info on the latest and greatest mountain snowmobiles at sleddermag.com/2023-ski-doo-s...
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  • @spitfire155k2
    @spitfire155k2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great breakdown of the differences between these machines! Absolutely LOVE my Summit X!

  • @thedoorider
    @thedoorider 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for the info Dave

  • @SledPemberton
    @SledPemberton ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loving my summit X!

  • @Lisagranden
    @Lisagranden ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video Dave! Thanks!

    • @DaveNorona
      @DaveNorona ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching, I know your getting good POW!!

    • @Lisagranden
      @Lisagranden ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaveNorona eh we’re actually have a bad season, we hardly have any snow. All the storms have gone right around us. Been a month since we had any accumulation 👎

  • @kewlguysonny
    @kewlguysonny ปีที่แล้ว

    Would definitely like to see a video on the Expert with the T-motion swap.

  • @DaveNorona
    @DaveNorona ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pat thanks for this, what a great day!!! Can't wait for more! Thanks for making the snowmobile community awesome with fun content!!

    • @sleddermag
      @sleddermag  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your help with this one Dave!

  • @gregchapdelaine4889
    @gregchapdelaine4889 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would be interested to see a video (or article) on the retrofit of the regular T-motion to the 175”Summit Expert with X package.

  • @justinsteinley4093
    @justinsteinley4093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my expert, adjustable limiter strap is spot on, thinner bars, billet brake reservoir, narrow stance I could go on.

    • @Jordan-ho5bc
      @Jordan-ho5bc ปีที่แล้ว

      now the summit x has it :)

  • @Braaapoholic
    @Braaapoholic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Norona is the face of Ski-doo! Great speaker when it comes to sledding. Rock on 🤘

    • @R1Kyle
      @R1Kyle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tell me you are drunk without saying you are drunk.

    • @Braaapoholic
      @Braaapoholic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@R1Kyle haha! haven’t gotten drunk for a long time bud. Just speaking the truth, Norona lives quite the life. Lives Eats Breathes skidoo

  • @dansavage1719
    @dansavage1719 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Pat, I’ve been riding a X for about 5 years now and I’m ready for a new spring check. I’m +50 and focused on ringing in the POW, fun rides with as little effort as possible so I can ride multiple days. I was ordering a Expert non turbo (due tot he $4K adder) for $21K + tax but after watching your video I’m now thinking Summit X which I know and love and add the turbo for $22K + tax. Again I really like at X but was taking Expert because it’s top of the line, I’m liking the T motion and flex edge track because it’s likely easier for me to get on it’s side and easier to ride….not sure I want to give this up….
    make sense?

    • @sleddermag
      @sleddermag  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Dan! Now that so many of the features that made the Expert 'better' when it first came out are now also on the Summit X, it's really more a matter of handling preference and how much effort you want to put into it. For next year the '24 Summit X also has the adjustable brake lever, quick adjust limiter strap and lower riser coming over from the Expert, so like Dave says, one is not really 'better' than the other anymore. Sounds like the X is the ticket for you. And don't forget that you're going to experience a BIG handling improvement going from Gen4 to Gen5 also! More fun, less effort.
      As for the turbo decision! The power delivery is super smooth, so don't worry about it won't wearing you out. It's just like an 850, just more jam when you want it. If you can get a turbo Summit X for just $1K more than an na Expert, that would 100% be our recommendation for you and you'll have the time of your life next winter! Thanks for watching!

  • @shuswapcarsandcoffee
    @shuswapcarsandcoffee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone gone and tried the ds 4 skis on the 2022 expert yet. I'm going to try it on the and give some feedback

    • @sleddermag
      @sleddermag  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Post here to let us all know how it goes!

  • @machine7767
    @machine7767 ปีที่แล้ว

    What year did the track change with the lugs going all the way to the edge?

    • @sleddermag
      @sleddermag  ปีที่แล้ว

      "The deep snow Gen5 sleds use a lighter 3.0″ lugged track called PowderMax X-Light with FlexEdge. The new X-Light track features full-width outside lugs that now extend all the way to the edge of the track." sleddermag.com/2023-ski-doo-snowmobiles/

  • @richwc1
    @richwc1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not the first person Ive heard say they dont like the ds4.

  • @usaelpaisdetodolomejor5848
    @usaelpaisdetodolomejor5848 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @defmc1
    @defmc1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do all old guys ride the couches (175s)?

    • @sleddermag
      @sleddermag  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky for you we have a video on that topic as well, (which also happens to feature Dave):
      th-cam.com/video/eK0h_m_PAy0/w-d-xo.html

    • @DaveNorona
      @DaveNorona ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cause the young guys are to weak to ride them couches :)

  • @MrCoda47
    @MrCoda47 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't it only the turbo and the expert that have 180 hp?

    • @DaveNorona
      @DaveNorona ปีที่แล้ว

      all 2023 turbos in the summit sleds have 180 HP

    • @MrCoda47
      @MrCoda47 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@freddockins9470 you must not be a sledder! Cause in the mountains horsepower has everything to do with whether or not you have a fun day or not. Try going up the mountains with an 80 hp sled then get back to me. How do I know because I did it!!!

    • @MrCoda47
      @MrCoda47 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@freddockins9470 I have a 23 summit x it takes me anywhere I want to go but I also don't ride at 10,000 feet maybe six or seven lol

  • @backcountryshitok
    @backcountryshitok ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it me or has skidoo kinda lost the marketing on the freeride. Its marketed as the big impact big jumper, but put all the weak parts on it. T motion keeps ripping apart and the last time ripped my track in 2 all the way around.

    • @DaveNorona
      @DaveNorona ปีที่แล้ว

      was it locked out, there have been very few failures with t-motion x unless people have used an aftermarket lock out

    • @backcountryshitok
      @backcountryshitok ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course it is, because skidoo should've had it locked out for everLoL

    • @backcountryshitok
      @backcountryshitok ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe heres a better question, whats the out of the box sled for deep snow, only get out west for 5 days a year. 2.5 146 good suspension with a narrow a arms

    • @backcountryshitok
      @backcountryshitok ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Dave Narona. I guess my comment aged well. Good shocks t motion delete. 15" track . Now I don't have to spend 3k over the price of my summit with freeride decals on it. Happy skidoo is still listening to the people

  • @altacat9702
    @altacat9702 ปีที่แล้ว

    : )

  • @R1Kyle
    @R1Kyle ปีที่แล้ว

    Man how old is Dave now, 65??? He still rides well for a man that is that old but I think they need to pick a younger more current ambassador.

    • @sleddermag
      @sleddermag  ปีที่แล้ว

      Dave is a great rider and ambassador, he works hard and he loves sharing his passion for snowmobiling! What more can you ask.
      Ski-Doo does also have plenty of younger talent on the team though, you can see the full roster on their website if you're interested. Thanks for watching.

    • @sleddermag
      @sleddermag  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @freddockins9470 Does this guy meet your standards th-cam.com/video/D3Rkq_zDkbg/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @cosettezosel9716
    @cosettezosel9716 ปีที่แล้ว

    💪 *Promo SM*

  • @LifeWideOpen780
    @LifeWideOpen780 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info but I do not trust skidoos to be reliable

    • @DaveNorona
      @DaveNorona ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting! Each there own but some would say the most reliable but all sleds can have issues. Hope what ever you ride you trust it and it gets you to RAD places!! Its what it is all about.

    • @outfitr9703
      @outfitr9703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

    • @offroader9965
      @offroader9965 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha

    • @teachdougie8139
      @teachdougie8139 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 compared to what?

    • @LifeWideOpen780
      @LifeWideOpen780 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teachdougie8139 jap built yammys