These Coins Look So Real They're Scary! I Was Almost Fooled!

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  • @CoinHELPu
    @CoinHELPu  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    These Coins Look So Real They're Scary! I Was Almost Fooled!
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  • @Supercheeseburger666
    @Supercheeseburger666 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Wow, that's scary if you were almost fooled! Thanks for sharing, Daniel. 👍

  • @lindanelson8400
    @lindanelson8400 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    That was a very good catch. To date the only counterfeit coin I ever got hung with was a one dollar gold piece. I purchased it before grading services were around. These fakes are a real scourge for our hobby.

    • @UneducatedGeologist
      @UneducatedGeologist 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There's alot of money in fakes. I bought a few of the most amazing looking Morgan fakes. Semi rare dates AU. They'd go for $60. Luckily I only paid spot for them a number of years back.

  • @bradwilliams7145
    @bradwilliams7145 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The patina reminded me
    of gold colored tokens you receive at a car wash or amusement center.

  • @ItsNatalieD
    @ItsNatalieD 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have a completely disorganized collection that I did not collect. I dont know anything about any of this. I'm trying to get the collection organized, and I'm finding it daunting. SO much to learn. SO, SO much. I'm getting that redbook you've mentioned and hopefully that will help. Your videos are helping, too, but I do get discouraged about things like this. 🤦‍♀️

    • @rodneymaynor6418
      @rodneymaynor6418 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can also buy yourself a subscription to get values of coins not only from E-bay most current past sales to get a current value of each coin you can also buy yourself a subscription to the ( Gray sheet ) to get upto date values on your coins. Both are what coin shops use to value coins that people bring in to sell to them. This way you don't look in the red book that says that particular coin is worth $1,000,000 and actually think it's worth what the red book values coins. The red book is a good book to learn some of what's out there but definitely not all. Fact check. A lot of people get disappointed thinking the red books prices are realistic when they are not. Best of luck reading this. And happy collecting.

    • @1011Shke
      @1011Shke 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The Red Book, or even better, the Mega Red Book, is a very good educational and details verification source. Couldn't make it without mine.

    • @torpedo1306
      @torpedo1306 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don't get upset, it takes many years for the one to learn the amount that David has learned, I'm certainly not an expert, but I've been collecting for over 10 years. Research is the best thing you can do, books like the Red Book are most certainly your friend, as is learning from honest men like Daniel. It's a fun hobby, especially if you're into history.

    • @ItsNatalieD
      @ItsNatalieD 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@torpedo1306 thank you! I do enjoy history, but this is just not my "thing." I completely respect and appreciate everyone who enjoys it, so please don't get my wrong. We all have our own "thing."
      I just want to get it organized and sold without getting ripped off but also without spending a fortune to have it appraised. It wasn't my collection,and I'm grateful I have it, but I find myself frustrated somewhat easily. Part of it has to do to my dyslexia and seeing "1983" as "1938" for example. 🤦‍♀️ slow and steady wins the race, I suppose.
      Thank you, again, for your encouraging words!

  • @coincollectingfun
    @coincollectingfun 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Crushed the like button! Excellent video and thank you so much for sharing!

  • @joelp6197
    @joelp6197 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    wow, thanks for the video. crazy how good they look.

  • @ehrenkrause9861
    @ehrenkrause9861 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Those California gold $1 they look more stamped than they do minted from the way the rim looks

  • @-oiiio-3993
    @-oiiio-3993 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    They look a bit 'brassy'.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@CoinHELPu Thank you, sir

  • @johncebasek6252
    @johncebasek6252 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    If someone could clear up a point for me? Were the counterfeits made to scam modern collectors or were they circulating as counterfeits when the coins were in circulation?

    • @acousticshadow4032
      @acousticshadow4032 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I cast my vote for the former. Condition too nice to be in circulation.

    • @johncebasek6252
      @johncebasek6252 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@acousticshadow4032 Ah, thank you... (as he goes off to the coffee machine!)

    • @UneducatedGeologist
      @UneducatedGeologist 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes that high quality they had a collectors premium for last 100yrs

    • @Rob-sx8ek
      @Rob-sx8ek 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah, definitely the first. Looking to get over on the novices or even some pros, I'm sure, as well.

    • @marianmoses9604
      @marianmoses9604 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Chinese counterfeits if you were to ask me.

  • @shawncovert5447
    @shawncovert5447 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Coming for you makes it quite alarming and even more scarier, 🇺🇲🦅⚖️

    • @shawncovert5447
      @shawncovert5447 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Someone as you who knows and been around coins you whole life, just think someone like me or others that don't have experience would get took in to the bank for sure. On fakes this good..

  • @MarkA-Coins
    @MarkA-Coins 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for sharing Daniel. Very important video. I am not much for buying gold not certified. I seen a comment below about the counterfeits looking brassy. That's a good point. Probably would have snagged me though. That California gold looks N I C E !

  • @noobismatic
    @noobismatic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now I'm stressing even more about a gold dollar I've got out at PCGS. I need to move a few hours south, so I've got a pro I can visit. Knowledge is priceless! Thank you.

  • @brianhagler4490
    @brianhagler4490 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Crazy, Daniel- I had just sent you that picture a couple of months ago of that 1889.

  • @NuthinFancyCollectibles
    @NuthinFancyCollectibles 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, Daniel. Thanks for what you do.

  • @rvalens2
    @rvalens2 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have an 1854 type 1 gold dollar and after comparing it to the one in the video, I wouldn't have bought it either. It doesn't look right. Its details and patina are off. As someone else already posted, it looks brassy. US coins are impeccably minted (errors excepted). And this coin appears to have been poorly struck.

  • @harvyss136
    @harvyss136 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have the exact same year, the '54. I received from my mom. Shes 82. It was given to her as a child from her Grandfather back in the 40's. Apparently he had them for some time, so it's been in the family for easily 100+ years. I brought it in to have it looked at and just like these, its gold but fake. My Great Grandfather always thought they were real. As long as people are out there, there will be counterfeit's. Thanks for the great info!

  • @mikebarushok5361
    @mikebarushok5361 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've had counterfeit British gold sovereign and half sovereign that look a little too perfect and a little bit reddish. The reeding is the dead give away. Too sharp. Good gold and tend to be slightly overweight. So, not hurt when buying for melt prices.
    There's a story that there were quantities clandestinely ordered by the UK from the middle eastern counterfeit producers because they needed them for inclusion in airman survival kits where the only universally accepted money was gold coins. I don't know if there's anything to the story, but it doesn't sound completely implausible.

  • @nicolasrossi5978
    @nicolasrossi5978 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting items. Thanks for sharing, it would be great ( and also more informative) to compare side by side with the actual coins they were trying to copy , or at least with a high quality photograph of the obverse and reverse of the actual versions in order to see the detail differences.

  • @motokenzo763
    @motokenzo763 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow! Do you have a good eye...hindsight knowing they are fake...yeah, the finish of the strike looks off. Without that info no way! 🤠

  • @rodneymaynor6418
    @rodneymaynor6418 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Both counterfeit gold coins are great examples that just because they're made of real silver and gold that doesn't mean they're real. What's a few dollars worth of gold or silver when a good counterfeiter can make thousands out of a few dollars worth of gold back then and truth be told even now? Point made is just because it's made of real silver or gold doesn't mean that coin is actually real. I've seen this time and again at my friend's coin shop. People come in , they say hey! This coin is real silver or gold there for it must be real. Sadly this is more common than most would believe. Good educational video Daniel. Congratulations on the California gold coin that straight graded. Yes a coin must be PL on both the obverse and reverse to get that PL attribution. Thanks for sharing.

  • @rsitch1
    @rsitch1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you very much for sharing your experience,
    That is so interesting to see,” Fake Die”…
    Daniel your a channel of welcome surprises…!!!

  • @stevelauda5435
    @stevelauda5435 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I only buy from reputable dealers.

  • @Rob-sx8ek
    @Rob-sx8ek 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Must be tough when honest. For the most part, people come in with counterfeits. It's not like they're trying to get you, but didn't realize they had been gotten. Must be hard breaking the news.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It is

  • @jerrydavidnichols6735
    @jerrydavidnichols6735 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would say they are good enough to fool most people, very good counterfeits. Are they in the counterfeit Gold book?

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I didn’t look

  • @evapayton29
    @evapayton29 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks so much for the information

  • @VulcanGunner
    @VulcanGunner 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This why I do not collect, although I did get burned on 10 fake silver Prospector rounds.

  • @kingsilver638
    @kingsilver638 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But was it a gold coin It still had to go content in it correct It wasn't being sold as a graded coin

  • @trinhbui3585
    @trinhbui3585 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Good morning Daniel from Maryland. I like your video.

  • @torpedo1306
    @torpedo1306 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It's kind of surprising that the grading companies wouldn't give a PL designation for just the obverse, like the California example, same if the reverse was the only side that looked proof like. It seems that having that designation, even with one side having it would still make the coin more desirable to collect than a coin that doesn't have that appearance. As for the counterfeits, at least they have the gold value in them, they would be good teaching examples considering that they still have some value, it shows the lengths that these fraudsters will go through in order to trick the unsuspecting buyer.

    • @TheWinstonDouble
      @TheWinstonDouble 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's really goofy. They do the same thing with cameo designations on 50s and 60s proof sets. You have to have the same cameo on both sides. I as the consumer don't give a hoot about that. I only care about cameo obverse. It would not be hard to put a dual designation for each side.

  • @marymastromauro8164
    @marymastromauro8164 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Those are nice for counterfeit

  • @donaldcombs7701
    @donaldcombs7701 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That calaifornia gold piece is beautiful

  • @SSS-bd6li
    @SSS-bd6li 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Daniel, thanks for sharing. Serves as a reminder for everyone to be careful and do our due diligence. Wonderful content as usual!

  • @danieldevite668
    @danieldevite668 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The headdress doesn't look right

  • @joshuahsimons9587
    @joshuahsimons9587 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn’t show reverse of 1st coin 🤣

  • @michaelbishop7358
    @michaelbishop7358 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Do you have a real coin to compare against?

  • @donberry455
    @donberry455 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    False dies, but we're they at least real gold?

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I answer that in the video.

  • @buyystocks
    @buyystocks 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    those fakes just look to perfect, almost no marks too, for soft gold.

  • @dougwagoner2620
    @dougwagoner2620 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow they are real looking coins Daniel

  • @scottholliday9308
    @scottholliday9308 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    👍

  • @Commin_Cents
    @Commin_Cents 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So are the coins real gold and just struck somewhere else, or are they not solid gold either?

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These are 90% gold

  • @yamaha226
    @yamaha226 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fool PCGS and win i guess is the new game to play.

  • @stevec7712
    @stevec7712 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People were making FAKE coins back in the time of the ROMANS - I'm sure the Emperor would find you a job working with the Lions at the Colosseum in Rome - LOL

  • @numismaticstacker
    @numismaticstacker 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1st

  • @dmpi483
    @dmpi483 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The fakes look real to me. If it tested as real gold I would have been completely sold on it.

  • @tom_morgandealer_pgh1648
    @tom_morgandealer_pgh1648 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I consider my self a us coin expert (what i don't know i can find in books or online) i will always avoid gold. I won't certify or buy its just to tricky and hard to tell without sending it in like that. Fakes alot of time test out as real gold.

  • @paulbegansky5650
    @paulbegansky5650 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hate fugazi