Healing Trauma in the Body: Reactivity vs Freedom During Fascia Release

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  • @ElishaCeleste
    @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Feeling brave and willing to share? I'll go first: I grew "tough" and "strong" inside to the degree I became "tough" on the outside. My fascia literally became thicker as a result of my determination not to show the people in my life how hurt I was. I spent a decade + hardening myself and hiding my true feelings. Then, I spent years trying to crawl back out. Fascia release helped me FEEL again. I still swing between "sensitive" and "tough." But after nearly 20 years practicing finding presence, objectivity and feeling it all...I'm finding center more and more often.

    • @delsings
      @delsings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just started learning about the existence of fascia this year. I'll be 38 in a couple days. So much trauma over my lifetime that I'm largely emotionally numb, but also extremely raw/sensitive, and I am constantly getting sick. Memory n focus is unpredictable. Got dysthymia depression, generalized anxiety and other symptoms not fully evaluated yet. Dissociation is something that comes in waves, panic attacks same thing, and extremely isolated. Been in PT for my scoliosis curvature among other stuff. Fighting off pneumonia right now and soooo sore (even more relegation to bed this last week, way less movement). According to your chart, I'm flooded.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@delsings Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼 I think it's somewhat common for people to swing between flooded and dissociated/numb, staying at the further ends of the spectrum - which can be exhausting and a challenge to break through. Building a tolerance or even celebrating feeling (even painful feelings) can be helpful to bring ourselves from numb/dissociated into more feeling and then more presence. The difficulty is that often even a little bit of feeling can be experienced as flooding. So finding the right "dose" so to speak (of feeling) is important. Then, we can expand it. Not sure if that was helpful or not, but felt inspired to share in case it is.
      Are you new to my channel? If so - welcome 😊 I really like knowing where you're at and how I can help. If you have any questions or topic requests, I'm all ears. I've been filming a lot of videos based on TH-cam comments lately, because I want these videos to serve you.

    • @delsings
      @delsings 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElishaCeleste very new to your channel, yes. And thank you so much for the reply. I keep myself distracted best I can when I need to. Much of the time I pour my focus into learning as much as I can while I work on my health n overall safety. I can't freely talk about my situation fully, but as far as my fascia lock up and health stuff goes, I'm a creative who has had their art and media business on hold over 3 years while I have been getting through physical therapy and other things.
      I worked out of my home largely before the hiatus, with some convention selling for face to face client interactions. Since the hiatus, and especially the pandemic, I'm in my home 24/7 and even more sedentary than before. My upper thoracic has a curvature and twist as I've been told over the years (sometimes called scoliosis, literally depends on the specialist department that I'm talking to at the time I guess because of the degree of curve). Been dealing with a yes/no diagnosing about it since middle school but finally had confirmation of it in my mid 20s if I remember right. Dominate hand and wrist pains also had forced this hiatus since my main trade specialty requires my hands constantly. Rotator cuff started being a problem at the beginning of '21 as well, and been doing various PT programs with a couple specialists since like March. Kept plateauing, and more pain n fatigue pops up. My immune system is a mystery to my docs so far but I get sick easy. I'm currently at the tail end of pneumonia as an example, but not usually this kind of sick commonly.
      Anyways, only been aware of what fascia is and does for past maybe month? And it has made sense why these painful plateau and backsteps keep happening, because I'm likely strength building on top of a locked up foundation. Doc ordered an MRI for my cervical and thoracic, but then the pneumonia happened so trying to be better first before going in for imaging. Anyways that's a good amount of my physical reasoning, other factors about, but can't really talk on those. Been trying to strengthen diaphragmatic/belly breathing already since I've been sing training over my hiatus, but that's a weird battle. Lost the ability to yawn correctly maybe a couple years back now. It's a whole thing. Anywho, I'm wordy, so thanks for reading and nice to meet you.

  • @JanelleWithU
    @JanelleWithU 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate this question. I find myself swinging from 80% in one direction to 80% in the other direction, not completely end to end in the extreme.
    I learned to dissociate at around 11 years of age, and after that wished I was a Vulcan.
    What I learned recently about Vulcans was that they learned how to use their logic precisely because they were so empathic & sensitive.
    So maybe, I am Vulcan after all, but needing to learn all the ways I still need to heal.

  • @MyoWorksABQ
    @MyoWorksABQ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am loving your content, both with the human freedom project and kinetics. I have been a body worker for 25 years and recently ended up in some pain patterns that have forced me to completely reevaluate my work and my relationship to my body. For years I had to be strong, taking care of everyone else and protecting myself from deep emotional abuse and trauma as a child. I am also highly intuitive,sensitive, and empathic. I thought I was taking care of myself well by exercising hard and being very athletic but I was missing or choosing to ignore the whispers and calls to gentleness every cell in my body so deeply craved. Recently the whispers became a deafening cry to STOP! I had no choice but to hear the cry this time. I discovered your channel and some other tools to help me learn to pause. It's an interesting journey and one I resisted right til the bitter end! I am still working with my nervous system daily, moment to moment really catching it tensing up, holding on and pausing to ask her why. I was wondering if you have any book recommendations on this incredibly intricate brain/body, nervous system/soma connection? Thank you for your work and sharing it!

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is hard work, and very brave! It's terrifying for those of us that learned how to endure pain and adopt socially acceptable forms of being "strong" like exercise (or workaholism) to let go.
      There are very few books I can recommend. I'm sitting here trying to decide if I would recommend any. The classic that most people refer to is "The Body Keeps The Score" by Bessel Van Der Kolk, and while I respect his work and contribution to this field, I couldn't finish it. I found it too abstract, and there was an underlying narrative in it that went something like "after being victimized by perpetrators as children, we are then victimized by our own bodies as a result of those traumas."
      A lot of people also read Gabor Maté,. I really respect him as a man, and I enjoy listening to him on podcasts - but I couldn't finish any of his books. Again, there was a tone of victimization of traumatized people and culture blaming that I don't resonate with. I also don't endorse a lot of his proposed solutions.
      I need to write books! It's on my mind and heart, but it will probably be a year or two until I even get started.
      In case you're wondering where I've learned what I write about and teach in my videos and courses:
      Most of what I write about I've learned through my own body and life experience, or by working directly with people in pain. If I share scientific facts, it is because I looked up PubMed articles or published scientific papers that map onto the direct experiences I've had working with my clients.
      The author I turn to and read the most frequently is Rudolf Steiner, and his work has profoundly impacted how I view, approach and work with the human organism.

    • @MyoWorksABQ
      @MyoWorksABQ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ElishaCeleste thanks for your response. I have read Van der Kolk , Peter Levine and some others. I am not a fan of Maté after having been to a seminar he and his son did for parents and their estranged adult children that was a very unsafe environment. But I will check out Steiner, thanks for the tip. I hope you do write a book someday, I would definitely buy it!

  • @larryolsen3174
    @larryolsen3174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I have pain I talk to the pain with the question “ Is this facia related or is this a stored painful experience/ experiences? If it is facia related I work on release using the various techniques given in your videos. If the pain is my body talking to me to take care of an emotional issue then I acknowledge and address the pain giving appreciation for the learning and wisdom gained. Then in love I ask this stored memory/energy to come into harmony(center) and be healed. This is key in that we do not need to know specifics and rehash old memories, feelings etc. simple - just acknowledge, invite to come into harmony and the healing takes place. I have had knots over my hip joints that I have seen doctors, chiropractors, taken supplements, etc for over 20 years until recently having come to live by following my heart soul essence and getting out of my head. I have used the invitation to come into harmony and experienced miracles. I use it daily. It is my connection to the natural world and the universe. I am 83 years young and loving life.
    Ole Olsen

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ole - this is such a simple, powerful, beautiful share! Thank you for taking the time to offer us a glimpse into what real freedom sounds like and looks like...at any age 😊

  • @tahiyamarome
    @tahiyamarome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I spent the first half of my life numb. Then i decided that i needed to become emotionally literate and spent many years pinging around this gradient depending on the stimulus-a lot of it triggered. Now i slip and slide between sensitive, present, and very occasionally tough and triggered
    *update the next day*
    Did my fascia release this morning for some pretty serious impingement in my left upper body on the heels of an injury that reactivated a BUNCH of old trauma. I pushed and leveraged hard enough to feel something- in direct response to THIS video, which is quite a bit of PSI for this party of my body, and surprise surprise if i didn't find myself crying buckets, completely remembering and inviting my 16- year-old self to tell me everything. Crying typing this in...
    Anyway, this s*!t is for real. I am in the worse-before-better part of the pain on this one and now think maybe we are at different parts of that gradient in different areas of our bodies. Seems true for me anyway. Thank you again Alisha. If i beat the cancer thing you will have helped, and if i don't you will have helped me get it better before i skate on outta here.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ohhh, Tahiya...I am sending you (and 16 year old you - only if she wants it) such a big hug right now 🤗💛 Thank you for sharing this. I'm deeply moved and inspired by your bravery in doing this work despite having no guaranteed outcomes, and the drive I feel in you to live in integrity with yourself for the rest of your life. No matter how long that life is, because in doing that...you can leave feeling at peace. May we all be so brave 🌟

    • @tahiyamarome
      @tahiyamarome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElishaCeleste thank you! Hug accepted. Back atchya

  • @tahiyamarome
    @tahiyamarome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I find everything you post incredibly on point and useful. Your growing mastery of this topic is a gift to everyone who crosses your path.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Tahiya, thank you for those kind words and for showing up consistently in this community (and for yourself most of all!) 🥰

  • @lisabarney3473
    @lisabarney3473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been all over the spectrum, too. Growing up, everything felt intense and painful, emotionally. And I kept getting inexplicable physical pain (which I know have a medical explanation for). All of these hurts were so intense and I couldn't escape them except by shutting down. Now I'm working my way back from deep-seated numbness. It's hard, but knowing from experience that pain is not bad in and of itself has been so helpful. It has gradually taken the fear out of feeling again.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Lisa, thank you for sharing. As you know, I see you as brave and incredibly wise and intuitive and I believe you're on the absolute right track. 💛

  • @spudanky
    @spudanky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mmm I relate to each category in this spectrum. Naturally I’m very very sensitive, childhood trauma coated me in numb, “eff it” attitude; spiritual/martial art practices from a young age into adulthood help develop me easily being able to be present, and non-reactionary. But today, toughness and numbness are definitely strong in my brew of getting through. It’s frustrating sometimes because healing from my physical body trauma can be as ambiguous and all over the place as me on that spectrum.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for sharing 😊 I totally hear you that it can feel ambiguous and all over the place. What helps me is to consistently remind myself that if I am present/objective/feeling, then I'm doing well. If I'm not, it's an indication that I'm not wanting to feel something...so I get curious about what that is. The trick here, though, is non-attachment to "figuring it out" right away. Sometimes we don't want to feel something that is currently happening in our lives/bodies. Other times something from the past is bubbling up, or we've been triggered. We can build a database of sensory markers to help us know which it is. This takes time.

    • @kr1221E
      @kr1221E ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElishaCeleste Thank you for this comment. As mentioned above, I just landed here, after a google search, which lead me several places before here. I really hope this can help. It's uncanny that you mention curiosity, in a good way, as I looked briefly at Internal Family Systems therapy by reading online, by Dr Richard Schwartz, who treated mentally ill patients who claimed to have "parts", different facets of their personality, "exiles" being the little children in us, stuck at various stages of our emotional development. Dr Schwartz encourages "curiosity" and "compassion" as 2 of his 8 C's, the others being, calmness, clarity, confidence, courage, creativity and connectedness. There are other "Parts" which Dr Schwartz labels, for instance, "Firefighters" the protector parts, who engage in risky or addictive behaviour, as a trauma response. I wish I had the attention span to read it, I mentioned it as there is a connection to your work, as far as I see, right now.

  • @amberhewitt6868
    @amberhewitt6868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for another great video. I go from being sensitive to flooded & dissociate a lot. When I’m in a really huge hopelessness trigger, I start to feel numb. Thank you for the reminder to sit with my younger self in compassion ♥️ been having a hard time holding space for her

  • @lisastewart117
    @lisastewart117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i am currently very emotional. My boyfriend and i are taking a break and it really took me for a surprise. so i am feeling bouts of crying and sadness.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for sharing. That's a really understandable/relatable reason to feel emotional and sad. I see you honoring yourself for feeling it all 💛

  • @SC-vb2ui
    @SC-vb2ui ปีที่แล้ว

    Using Fascia Relies
    ,had too much trauma,
    Yes I’m im Present,in Personal life experience difficulty making Right Decision for myself.
    Sometimes need to put humanity 1st.
    Healing never ended ⛲️🙏

  • @robertwales9175
    @robertwales9175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad I watched this.

  • @azdjedi
    @azdjedi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll make a minor correction to your step one. In my experience I was treating my body with frustration and dislike. Years of pain and lack of progress. It wasn't until finding fascia work and proper technique (your channel), that I started to see results and understand and integrate all my previous education. Now I treat it with excitement and hope and curiosity...and of course discomfort, but it's fine.
    So step 1 isn't necessiarly positive emotions; step 1 could be finding the right path so some trust can come back into the process.

  • @marlaadamson1633
    @marlaadamson1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am currently recovering from chronic stress/tension which rendered me almost completely numb. This video is the first to confirm my hypothesis. I've had to learn everything myself.

    • @marlaadamson1633
      @marlaadamson1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also theorize that coritsol and related biofilm growth impact the flow of fascia (energy?)... I have a wild survival story! Thanks for your work.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marlaadamson1633 - trust your intuition! You and your body know more than any "expert" out there. And, it's nice to find people to collaborate with on the path of discovery. I'm glad you found your way here :)

  • @kr1221E
    @kr1221E ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new, so, I do not know where I am on the spectrum. I stumbled across Fascia Release as I googled bodywork, after having read a bodyworker web host, who's podcasts I watch and site I visit, which resonates with me greatly, he also covers a lot of other subjects, from childhood trauma, healing, psychospirituality, the supernatural, politics, etc. I have not tried this modality, and I will watch your other videos and read the comments. I will also subscribe.

  • @Bobbie-c
    @Bobbie-c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you again and again. If I had started a few years ago, my answer would be numb with a clear head. Now I find that I'm sensitive to flooding.. Occasionally I revert to numb. I'll have to figure/feel that out It's hard work to stay safe in feelings

  • @lisakirkland4530
    @lisakirkland4530 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @margott.244
    @margott.244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is like hitting jackpot how to address the body/ subconscious. Thank you 🙏🥲💚🥰

  • @EM-os9ze
    @EM-os9ze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Elisha,
    I have a question. I've had fascia release while working through an injury multiple times in the past. My fascia overreacts bad afterwards and I go into spasms after having it done. I've even started having fascia spasms after getting a regular massage (which I never was like this in the past). Can you explain to me whats going on. Anything I try to do to work on my body seems to send the fascia into a flare up even though Im very relaxed during the treatment. Please explain this for me if you can.

  • @desireemertz-roy984
    @desireemertz-roy984 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a sensitive person at this time of my life, as a child and teen I was tough and numb

  • @mojabunni
    @mojabunni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I cycle along the spectrum but spend a dwcent amount of time in Presence, but plenty of time in numb, sometimes tough, often sensitive, and occasionally flooded.
    Curious what your thoughts are about people with Sensory Processing Sensitivity (aka Highly Sensitive Person or HSP). Do HSPs tend to feel Sensitive more often at the expense of being present?

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi Heather, thanks for sharing! I think it's fairly normal/human to span the spectrum. Yes, my personal belief is that HSPs reside more often on the sensitive side of things. I think there are so many factors that can influence and/or change our personalities and the way we feel/sense and process information. I used to believe I was introverted and needed a LOT of alone time. I thought I might be an HSP. Then I healed the bulk of my trauma at age 33 and realized I am an energetic extrovert who thrives being around people. And I can now use my ability to sense the world acutely in conscious ways, instead of being reactive to my sensory abilities. If that makes sense 🙃

  • @anitamurkes9511
    @anitamurkes9511 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Elisha,
    Thanks a lot for your great videos!
    I have done a lot of inner work, mental and emotional. But everything seems to still be trappen in the body !
    Where do you have your practice ?

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Anita, you're so welcome 💛 I currently live in Oceanside, CA (north San Diego County), and work with a few clients privately. I also have an online course coming up that is designed for people who have done some of the mental/emotional work already, and want to move into working the traumas and patterns out of their body. And I do online private coaching as well. Feel free to email info@elishaceleste.com for info on any of the above.

  • @penmaenmawrdefiant1146
    @penmaenmawrdefiant1146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're pretty good at sitting like Buddha!! 😁

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤣 That's my ability to endure kicking in, it actually hurts to sit like that for a long time!

  • @richardanderson6538
    @richardanderson6538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like I’m sensitive leaning to present

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richard, thank you for sharing. What practices have helped you get the most present so far in your life?

  • @clipser924
    @clipser924 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you going to show us the exercises ever???

  • @pianissimo369
    @pianissimo369 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the inner child...its always about trauma that others often unknowingly inflicted on you. My trauma is different. I did a lot of cruel things when i was younger and wasnt a nice person. I am totally different now but i still cant come to terms with who i was or the hurt i caused to so many people, eapecially those who i love the most.
    I think that THAT stress, the horror of what ive done is trapped in my body. Not sure how to deal with that 🤷

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe your comment is sincere, and I really REALLY appreciate you sharing this, as it is a topic I think about a lot and have never addressed publicly. However I believe we MUST address this side of trauma if we are ever going to break the cycle collectively. In fact, I believe the lack of social capacity to hold space for the healing of truly remorseful people is one of the primary reasons trauma perpetuates. I was sexually violated as a young person by a drug addict/alcoholic and very violent man. I have never wished for him to go to jail or "pay" for his crimes against me. I believe true justice is found in atonement - in facing oneself honestly. And if only our culture embraced the very real fact that facing oneself honestly takes ACTUAL COURAGE, then we would truly start to get somewhere. Thank you for your comment.

    • @pianissimo369
      @pianissimo369 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElishaCeleste Thank you for your amazing response! I can't believe that I am the only one who suffered trauma as a kid and didn't break the cycle! Surely there must be SO many people who just blindly copied what they saw and continued the cycle...
      I was a terrible mum and didn't give my daughter what she needed and as a consequence she ended up cutting herself and in a horrible depression. It's SO hard to admit your guilt in these situations. Luckily, my daughter is a very advanced soul and through her perseverance I changed. I am quite proud of who I am now and my daughter has forgiven me everything. Truly forgiven. Unfortunately I can't do the same. Especially if I catch a glimpse of her scars...it destroys me every time.
      So, as you rightly pointed out there isn't ANYTHING available for people in my situation. It's all about healing what others did to you . Whoo helps the guilty person in that situation when they see the truth?
      It is unbelievably hard to admit that you have hurt the person you most love in this world. And it is even harder to be at peace with yourself.
      I think ETF is another amazing tool for trauma. There are thousands of "follow along tapping routines" here, and none of them has a script which could be used for my specific situation. Same with binaural beats and meditations. Zilch!
      It would be great if you could do a video on this difficult and neglected topic. I am so happy I discovered your channel! Refreshingly unpretentious and human, it's easy to connect to what you are saying. God bless! 💜

    • @pianissimo369
      @pianissimo369 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElishaCeleste Oh...and about rape...I am in my 50s now and people tend to confide in me. ..Shockingly I would estimate that 1/4 of all the people I know have been raped, men and women. I didn't prosecute my guitar teacher when he raped me and my daughter didn't say anything when she was raped in a toilets at 12.
      Life continues and I discover that her father was raped in a toilet when he was 8 and my brother was raped by an older family friend. Also countless female friends have told me similar stories.
      I have to conclude that 90% of people who are raped do nothing about it. But there are a LOT of adults out there suffering with that secret inside them 😢

    • @rainbowconnected
      @rainbowconnected 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pianissimo369 That is so brave of you to be willing to look at, take responsibility, change and heal your connection with your daughter. You definitely aren't the only one who went through trauma and inadvertently passed it on. You deserve healing for that pain, as I'm sure it must be awful.
      He focuses on healing childhood trauma, but Patrick Teahan is an amazing resource. I see plenty of people in his YT community that are in your shoes, so at the very least you would find others in a similar situation and perhaps they might have better suggestions. I find it to be a very supportive place, including for parents who make mistakes and own them.
      For what it's worth, as someone whose parents passed on their trauma to me and won't even admit it, I find it incredibly healing and validating to hear that some parents like yourself actually care enough to be honest and work with their kids to heal. I hope you find a way to forgive yourself. You weren't given the skills to be loving to yourself or anyone else, so please don't be too hard on yourself.

  • @lynndels1075
    @lynndels1075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you worked with john Barnes?

  • @g.siporin4000
    @g.siporin4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Over reactive.

    • @ElishaCeleste
      @ElishaCeleste  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing 🌟