Guide to CMP M1 Garands - Understanding different grades
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- I go over the different grades for M1 rifles from the CMP. I'll tell you a bit about the different manufacturers and how that comes into play on the CMP Garands. I'll also give you explanations of the different rifles they have for sale, and give some pros and cons.
I ordered and received a rack grade from the CMP in 2023.
I filled out my paperwork and included a nice note outlining that I am a WW2 collector and re-enactor, and politely requested they send me a WW2 era Springfield because I had heard prior they sometimes honored smaller included requests.
The rack grade I received was an October of ‘43 Springfield receiver, with a wartime trigger guard, some mixed Winchester and IHC parts, as well as a rebarrel from Springfield in ‘51.
The rifle came with a replacement (likely when it was rebarreled for Korea in the early 50’s) nearly red Walnut stock.
For my individual rifle’s history as a collector and historian, I love it to death, Frankenstein or not. Just understanding the amount of hands this rifle has been in, as well as the places (and battlefields) around the world it has seen, puts me in awe every time I look at it.
Gave myself Garand thumb the first week I got it.. I wasn’t using the correct karate chop hand position and she bit my index, causing some bleeding.
I chuckled and wondered who else this old girl might’ve bit in her time
I went to the North Store yesterday and picked up a beautiful Service Grade 1943 Springfield Armory. Going and actually picking the rifle I wanted was a treat. The workers there field stripped it for me and we went through all the parts which were stamped SA. Only thing not from SA is the stock which is new wood from the CMP which I like. Very happy with my purchase.
I went with a Special Grade and got a SA with a 1945 receiver. I'm very happy with it.
I got a service grade a couple of years ago, its a good shooter and in pretty good condition. A Garand means a little bit more to me, I went to a military school for 3 yrs and was issued a M1 Garand, we carried them a lot, cared for and cleaned a lot, and shot a little bit, but there is that nostalgia factor for the model of rifle I was issued almost 60 years ago.
It’s the truth what you said about just keeping the guns running. I was the Armor for my army company and I once had to use a 10 penny nail on the latch cover of a Browning .30 caliber machine gun to keep it running in the field making my company the only one with a working machine gun.
Just got my CMP rack grade yesterday, it's beautiful. Stock has some minor dents and dings, and there is some lite pitting by the edges of the receiver. Barrel is pristine! I've had multiple M1 owners looks it over and say it's the best rack grade they have ever seen
Bought my service grade M1 a few years back. Came with a new stock and bore/chamber numbers were almost new. It’s my 2nd M1, very pleased and it’s a shooter. Participated in a NRA F Class match, six of us used iron sighted firearms, I shot a 268/400. Didn’t place and no bragging rights but I was extremely pleased.
I'm literally in the process of filling out paperwork to get a CMP Garand and this was really helpful in making my decision of which one to get, thank you!
I got my M1 Garand rack grade a few months ago and love it. Is it prefect....no, but that's what I wanted. It has a 1945 SA receiver, but the barrel shows it was rebuilt in 1955. I wanted a military war relic that looked like it went through a war. I am very happy. Your video... great information....Thanks.
A little late to the conversation, but I got my first CMP Garand around 2000, a SA, 1.81 million built in August '43 and I paid $400. Except for the hammer which is WRA it's all SA and a beautiful rifle.
I got my second CMP Garand around in 2013, a "Collector Grade" H&R built Nov. '54 and 5.51 million and everything is fricking original H&R except for the CMP walnut stock that I refinished... it's absolutely gorgeous. Paid $975 delivered and my local Gunshop, run by an 'old' retired USMC armorer, looked at the rifle and stated that it probably had two rounds ever fired through it as it was that original and tight. If you thought Expert Grade was nice, you should see Collector Grade.
Very informative video, this certainly helped me further understand the different between the service and field grades in particular. I also appreciate you mentioning about the eight rifle purchase rule, because honestly when I read it online I feared I had misunderstood what it actually meant.
I just picked up a field grade Winchester today. I was torn between a field and a service grade but I think I got a good one. It was nice being able to go to the Talledega store and pick one out yourself.
Just made the trip to CMP North store and walked out with a Special. I Figured I'm not reselling this I wanted a shooter. But i love it so much ill probably go get a service grade as a collector piece they are running out of rifles fast.
Damn after watching this video I'm glad i bought my M1 Garand around 10 years ago and have mostly Winchester parts and in real nice condition !!!
Nice video! Very informative!
I purchased an expert grade SA M1 Garand made in 1942 a few weeks ago chambered in 3006. I cleaned and oiled and greased the slide. I was able to locate and purchase some very nice clips in like new condition! I am so looking for to getting to the range and trying it out!!!😊
USMC 63-67 every time i see an M1, my thumb starts throbbing😂
My Bought mine several years ago. It is a "Correct Grade". Springfield armory all matching serial numbers.
Thanks for the video. Good concise information, especially for those of us looking to pick up our first Garand.
As long as y'all are intent on ferral squirrel. Im too sure about that though.
I recently purchased a Springfield Armory Garand with a 1951 barrel. I got mine from CMP.
Ain’t nothin wrong with a mis matched garand. Still shoots and does what it should
Oh, yeah. Mines mismatched, but that's fine to me. But a lot of people want "correct" guns for their collections, and that's really difficult with M1's.
Plus, it represents the history of that specific rifle and helps tell its story. It essential adds character to it.
@@dinosaurfan2409 most of the Garands were "mix masters" because when refurbished, armorers took from a bin of parts made by different manufacturers.
Agreed, my main focus is "does it do what I need".
I like your disappearing/reappearing cat. BTW: when I was about 4 (1958) we had an International Harvester refrigerator. It had a large chrome latch handle with a badge on the bottom with the I H logo. We also had a toy tractor made by International. Interesting company.
Great video, very informative. Being a Canadian I'm disappointed I'm ineligible to buy an M1 Garand from the CMP. Have a good day.🇨🇦🇺🇸
Cat teleports into the room at 3:48 :D
I got a special grade chambered in 308. I wanted something that was like new, and wanted to keep my ammo inventory simple. The rifle is beautiful and shoots very nicely! Maybe a service grade is the next one to purchase.
Wow, prior service, and I didn’t even know there was such a thing. Gonna get me a Garand finally. Only expert is available and one other lower grade but I’ll drop 1k for one in near perfect condition in 308. Thanks for the in depth info.
So the .308s are 1k?
@@tonk4184 yes and in stock.
I want a teleporting cat. Can I buy one through the CMP? I'd be fine with just a rack-grade Kitty.
I was told that the Singer Sewing machine company was a sab manufacturer of some internal parts.
Great video on the M1's. I've recently begun looking for one and your video was very helpful dude. Thank you!
Great job. I've been considering getting one ever since I fired one that a friend of mine got around 20 years ago.
thank you i learned alot. i wasnt sure about the one i put a bid on.
Very great information about the Garand rifle
mail order from the cmp is generally pretty good, but if you get the store early you can find really good rifles
Tracked my back to Born On Date, October of 1943 , +1-0, had trigger group went through, also has New Stock, with CMP stamp... I paid $1200 in 2014' 😮 Love this Rifle, shot it less Than 200 rounds 😂
I would be happy with any M 1 garand
I inherited an m1 Garand that a relative got directly from Springfield Armory in the early 1970’s. Does this part info apply?
This video is about the grades used by CMP for the Garands that they sell. The main purpose of those is to give the buyers an expectation of its condition, and the price is based off of that. If yours didn't come from CMP, then a CMP grade is pretty much irrelevant.
@@PoindexterTactical ta!
A very informative presentation
There are exceptions. I have a rack grade that looks and shoots like an almost new gun. According to a letter from the cmp it was sold as a rack grade in 2005. It was a “Greek return” rifle. HRA made it in ‘54. The TE and ME gauge shows that the original barrel is as new, 1 and .5, respectively. All marked component parts are hra. All parts are correct for the rifle including the stock. Needless to say this perplexed me at first but apparently it was common with a lot of the Greek returned rifles.
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I like how the cat looks over at the first subtitle with a yawn (00:39), eyeballs the human with a flat, glazed expression, then appears to read the titles from top to bottom before dismissing them with an air of feline superiority, prior to disappearing altogether into the Gato Zone.
Thanks for the info. It really helps, I have been wanting to get an M1.
I usto hat how non of the parts on my Mauser wer matching but then I got older and red more and realized that it was all done throughout it's military life and all a part of my rifles history .thanks for the vid . I would love a rack grade but the field grade will do 🤣
Great information. I know the video is old but thank you!
Thank you for spelling out the order form in more a understandable manner. I see only field grade International Harvester Garands presently. Should I wait or buy now? Should I contact the CMP and ask if they have a service grade IHC? I only want one.
Usually what they have listed is what they have. Email is usually easier to get an answer, you'll just be told no on the phone.
Also, at the moment, CMP has unfortunately closed due to the whole Coronavirus thing. I don't know when they'll get going again, but they're pretty much stopped indefinitely.
@@PoindexterTactical , I should have my paperwork ready soon and sent in for when they are back operational. Thank you!
@@PoindexterTactical It is now 10/3/2020 - Is what you mentioned here still holding true? CMP is still closed due to the Chinese Corona Virus thing?
I think they’re back up at this point.
@@cgretired6976 I recently visited their website and as of now, they have more than just IHC field grades. However what other grades they have are slim pickings. Lots of options are sold out. On top of that, at the top of the page it says that they are currently back ordered and you'll have to wait a couple months for your order to process, plus the couple months that it would normally take to process the order and have it shipped to you before COVID. Every now and then, they update the page with new Garands they receive.
Very useful info..helps with the picking process.
Great video, very informative
Very informative video, thank you. Love the cat.
Excellent presentation, thanks.
4:12 you’re welcome
Great video, Learned alot, Thank you.
Mine is all parts matching IHC with the LMR barrel marked for 1954. I don't believe the stock is correct though. It was imported into Canada in 1974 and the original owner paid $20 extra back then for a select grade. I'm the second owner and the rifle basically sat behind the door of the original owner's farm house. Very low round count on this rifle and the metal is almost pristine. Like I said all parts are confirmed IHC. I'm curious what it's worth on today's market, even though I'd never sell it.
I got me a nice Springfield M1 Garand from CMP about 10years ago with matching serial numbers for $450.
Kinda in a tough spot financially, considering selling it.
If you are interested in selling it I would love to take a look at it
7 Great Uncles In WW2 And A M1 Garand
You forgot about Vietnam! There’re tons of Garand that was left behind from the military aid to the south Vietnamese Military
I dont know what grade my M1 is. Made in fall of 1942. Springfield, all matching parts. Picked it up from longtime owner.
So many companies make replicas of firearms, but none makes a working one of an M1 Garand. Do you know why?
What happened to the Expert Grade?
The military contract made sure that the parts from all manufacturers were built to the blueprints. The military knew if a firearm needed repair that it's critical that all parts would work on all rifles no matter the manufacturer
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I miss seeing rack grade garands at gun shows...
so helpful. Thanks for the video.
I got the rack grade nice rifle,May 1943
Listening to the description, is "Special grade" the same as "Expert grade" then?
helpful would have been price ranges and a link to the CMP web page.
The prices at CMP fluctuate quite a bit. Since this is a three year old video any info like that would be really out of date. A number of the different grades I listed aren’t around anymore and they’ve introduced some new ones. Unfortunately, TH-cam won’t let me link to a website that sells firearms because that’s apparently super scary or evil or something.
Will CMP "customize" a Special? I would like to have National Match front and rear sights as well as an operating rod but have no clue how or where to obtain them.
Excellent explanation of the grades. I'm thinking about getting the special because I like the thought of it being rebuilt with a new barrel and stock. I plan to shoot mine so I'm not trying to collect a original. With the special is there a option for bedding for accuracy? I've heard bedding is the most important thing with M1 accuracy. Thanks for sharing
I know they do that sort of work, and I think you can have something like that done when you get it. I’m not sure exactly how to go about it.
@@PoindexterTactical That's cool I will enquire and if they don't I live relatively close to Fulton armory and I know they do great work. Thanks
Thanks for the vid & info. I’m just now looking into the process for REALLY the 1st time. CMP ‘HAVING THEM AVAILABLE’ is only half the battle, STILL need the funds to move things forward. But, WHO wouldn’t want a Garand?! I find myself wondering about the “pricing” of OUR American arms & WHO benefits in asking what is STILL a hefty sum of money to most people...
I think the pricing from CMP is pretty fair. It's well below gun show and local gun store pricing. It ends up being right around the mid range AR-15 prices. They'd very likely be north of $2k if you were producing them new. But I know that $650 to $1200 is not easy for everyone to drop. As far as who benefits, it's the CMP that benefits. It was originally a government agency, and instead of giving them money, congress decided to give them the old surplus rifles. The sales are how they fund themselves. They're technically private now, but they're still kind of like a government agency.
Mark Hatch it really is worth it. Especially if your just wanting a generic rifle and the fancy collecting means nothing to you. Get a 650-750 field or service grade and your good to go for a very long time
Good information
There goes my M1 Garand that I used to clean up on our required ROTC to graduate college in the Philippines. You are asked what you want to do. You either do marching drills in the hot sun for 8 hours, donate blood to Red Cross if they are there once on a blue moon or clean the M1 and M14 for 8 hours in a grease stinking small room with small door.
I think 10 years ago they removed that required ROTC 6 units training to graduate college in the Philippines. Reason is it is a nuclear age, all you need is a push button now.
You must have a magical cat it disappeared and reappeared
HAITI too...we have a stock pile from the Duvalier's era...!
I love my two Service Grades!
I recently picked up a 1942 MOD M1 Garand, Springfield armory #957300. has lock-bar sight and milled trigger guard. SA barrel 2-55. stock with only 2 cartouches, looks well aged. heavy stamped P on the pistol grip, and a circle P below that, but very faint. has a single stamped "M" on the gas cylinder lock, and the cylinder it's self has a diagonal tightening cut. the rest are generic looking Dxxxx numbers on all parts. op-rod is Springfield, is not the un-cut type.
what grade is this? bore looks immaculate. bolt and barrel have the same finish, leads me to believe that they were swapped at the same time.
I purchased a correct? Grade Garand for my Dad in 2011. I believe they they quit selling them shortly after. Thing was packed in cosmoline like a jello mold!
I have an hra that was sold as a rack grade in 2005. It is a 5.6 million gun and was a Greek return. The thing about it is that it looks basically new aside from a few stock dings. The bore on it is an appropriate 1955 barrel and specs less than 1, about 1/2 two 2/3 of the first gauge mark and the throat is similar, maybe 0. All of its parts are likewise appropriate. No hints of pitting. I don’t understand how it was rack grade. I did run into some mentions that many nice Greek returns were listed as rack at that time because they had so many. But I am unsure. A conundrum…
Does not the bore have something to do with the grade as well?
All garands are good!
Thank you 😊
Very informative thanks
Thanks for the info.
This would be part of the manufacturing speck. Interchangeable
great video, thanks. How much do all matching ones go for? Is that even a thing? I know the CMP doesn't have those.
They don’t come around very often. You don’t ever have true matching, as the only thing serialized is the receiver. You could have the receiver and every part from the same manufacturer and year. If CMP gets something like that it goes to auction. The ones that CMP gets at this point have been around so long that they’ve likely been rebuilt and switched out many times.
WOW! Cat off to the right does an amazing appearing and disappearing act. LOL
Why wasn't EXPERT GRADE mentioned???
Thanks so much for the great information. This is an excellent video! Also, great to see another gun guy with a cat!
For some reason TH-cam thought this comment was spam. They're kinda weird sometimes.
I bought a service grade Springfield armory an it came with new production stock and a repro gas block everything is original from the time most all parts are sa with the hammer being inc anni belive front sight is whinchester
I would dig deep and get the special myself.
Do it right!
when you order one from CMP do they still have cosmoline on them or have they cleaned them?
Clean and test fired.
I love my Expert Grade
But am searching for a nice origional GI Stock lol
Thanks for the great info
thank you.
"The bores on the field grades are not going to be good" Not so. I bought two field grades and the barrels gauged 1+ and 1+ on one and 1+ and 3+ on the other. Both shoot very well.
May be better to say that the bores on field grades will not necessarily be good. They don’t guarantee that the bores will gauge that well on all of them.
What is correct grade?
Comment on "correct grade"?
Is it difficult to acquire one
It’s not very difficult. I have a video that points you through the process and makes sure you have everything in order.
Good info, thanks.
Do you know if cmp is still selling them at this time?
There are still selling. You’ll have to go to their website to see specifically what models they have.
Stupid question for you lot. Can you request one with a WW2 receiver? Or is it just kinda luck of the draw? I know in the grand scheme of things it's not that important but I like the history.
You can put a sticky on it and request something in particular. If the guy picking yours is in a good mood and there’s a ww2 receiver in the stack, you might get lucky. It’s no guarantee, but it doesn’t hurt.
@@PoindexterTactical Okay I'll give it a shot. It's most certainly not too crucial, it would just be nice. Thank you very much for your reply!
Don't you mean, the GARAND scheme of things?
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Sell rack day and night know of 4 in my area in last few months
New sub I love your cat great video.
Thank you!!