Mini-ITX NR200P MAX build with 4090
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2022
- Mini-ITX build in 2022
NR200P MAX
MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Processor
Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2x32GB) 5600MHz CL40 DDR5 EXPO
Noctua NF-A12x15 120mm FLX 1850RPM Fan
Kingston KC3000 M.2 NVMe Gen4 SSD 2TB
Music by MildRelaxation from Pixabay - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
"I'll add in some thermal paste" *Squirts out a seas worth of paste*
Well done!👍 👍 This helped me out with my max build. Appreciate you sharing.
This is sooo overkill and i love it
i had same build with 12900k....its super ez and clean.
On the side note - If you are using perforated side panel, the bottom fans better to be exhaust out, not in...It will drop few degree on temps.
If you are using glass panel, then, you do air intake for the bottom fans.
Yeap, this is the right way. Also when using as exhaust fans you can remove the bottom air filter to improve airflow.
Nice video, very calming. But yeah, sweet baby jesus, all that thermal paste....cleanup of the AM5 heat spreader is going to be a nightmare in the future.
awesome pc build just the video I needed
i dozed off twice watching this because of the music 😂😂
That’s nice! I built my nr200p with an i5 12600k and today just got the 4070 TI TUF and it fits perfectly (non horizontal). I had to take the fans off the bottom however, but runs silent and cool.
Hi i want to ask if I could have your build list as I want to get the ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1a, DisplayPort 1.4a) TUF-RTX4070TI-O12G-GAMING. Does it fit nicely or were there any trouble?
@@brianchan7532 if you got the 4070 ti TUF model just take off from the nr200p case the bottom and fans, front and you’ll be able to fit it in the normal way without riser card. It fits perfectly in there.
oof the bottleneck tho
@@Spikyzzzz I ended up returning the 4070 TI TUF as it was overkill for my usage. Instead picked up a 3060 TI from eBay for $270! But a i5-12600k with a 4070 TI wouldn't have that much bottle neck if at all really as its only a one previous generation CPU.
i built it 13900k and rtx 4090 man it becomes and 4090 is zotac still bit long
Thanks for the video! How are the temperatures?
Great build.
I feel like I am in a massage parlor and about to fall asleep with this music and ambient lighting! lol
How are temps?? Im curious about mounting my 7900xt vertically
Here is a tip. You can use three riser screws to mount the GPU a few millimeters higher, then you can use two regular fan on the bottom. I found this idea on pc parts picker.
It actually could work.
I'm planning on buying this exact setup. What do you mean use 3 riser screws?
@Stephen Mann - could you please tell me the order of the pins you connected on top of the motherboard? (e.g. CPU connector, system fans, additional at bottom of the case)? My component arrive tomorrow and I want to make sure I set them up right. thanks in advance !
Very nice
can you measure the weight of the PC?
Hi Stephen, Can you share how are the CPU and GPU temps after the build and is the case performance optimal !
Do you recommend those bottom noctua fans flx or pwm?
Nice video! I am planning to do a similar build. from what I have found, the 4090 Gaming X Trio is 337mm long, and the case clearance is 336mm from the cooler master's website, which in theory, it is already 1mm too long. But it looks fairly easy to fit the card in your video. Was there any pressure or stress when you were fastening the screws? Does the graphic card touch the front panel of the case? Or is there anything to think about with this kind of graphic card setup that is so close to the limit? Thank you for your time!!
It will be touching but not tight...
Hi @stephan Mann. How did you install the am5 cpu cooler? Did you need any additionall screws? Which installation Guide of the Guide did you follow? I'm building a system with a 7700x atm and I'm a little bit scared to forget something. :D Many Thanks!
I suggest you have a read through the case manual, everything is included and for amd, screw the bracket onto the aio and the brackets clip onto the cooler mounts that usually already on the motherboard. coolermaster.egnyte.com/dl/08QSK8tKoO
How are the temps in it?
I had a NR200 and got a Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC which is stated as 340mm long. I couldn't fit it, unless I started cutting parts of the front frame.
I ran the 4090 outside the case with a riser cable.
I recently saw someone fit it into a Meshroom S, so I have that case coming in a couple days. Its smaller than both the NR200 and NR200p and will be able to fit my arctic AIB 280mm. This AIB is thicker than the one that comes with the NR200p.
I think the NR200p is pretty neat, you can see that you can fit longer cards as long as you are ok with the rear panel pushing out further. I might regret the tight fit of the Meshroom when they later make a 5090 etc.
I also wanted to throw in my 1200w ATX psu, which they say could fit. Albeit it I'm running on the bleeding edge of my current 800w psu.
Hey, we're you able to successfully fit the 4090 in? I am in a very similar situation. I just bought the gigabyte 4090 and want to build it into a small case with a proper PSU (850W seems really tight for me). Would love some insights.
@@JiesiLuo Not the NR200, I got the Meshroom S. The Founders edition might fit the NR200, it fits the NR200 max for sure.
I believe I might even be able to fit a 1200w ATX PSU in the MeshroomS. I just have to go get it from storage to try.
@@hrod9393 did you successfully squeeze the gigabyte 4090 into the meshroom s? I am using this exact gpu so if you did I know which case to go for 😀.
@@JiesiLuo the dude clearly states NO, he is not able to take 340mm GPU and fit it in ITX case that CLEARY states by the manufacturer of all people, MAX GPU LENGTH 336mm!
Great video, thank you for uploading, I have two questions:
1. Did you try 25mm fans at the bottom before going for 15mm ones? To me it ‘seems’ there’s space for 25mm fans?
2. Do you think MSI 4090 Suprim x liquid will it? It’s shorter and thinner but came with 240mm radiator with fans.
Mines completed build without GPU, thinking of going with 4090 AIO liquid cool, share your thoughts, thank you.
25mm fan wont fit underneath the PCIe riser by a few mm, someone mentioned a mod you can do to use spacer screws to mount the graphics card a little bit higher.
I think liquid cooled graphics card will give you alot of pain to route the pipes, and if you remove the cpu aio then it would be really difficult to keep cpu cool with air cooling, there is not much space between the graphics card and cpu. If using the vented panel then air cooled graphics card stays really cool.
Nice build, But the video is like ASMR to fall asleep for the pcmasterrace subreddit with your voice and music lol
How is the temperature at full load / idle, I was concerned about this case of the way the gpu is sitting right on top of cpu, especially 7950x is such a powerful cpu!
Great build! One question, how did you connect the GPU to the PSU? Did you need to buy extra cables?
The card comes with an adapter cable but you would need to daisy chain one of the connectors, I now have a custom cable from cablemod. Note that this powersupply is wired differently to other brands so you cant swap cables between brands.
Did they update the pump and update the PSU with the gpu pre pin set up for the 40 series cards yet?
Hi Sephen , Thank you for sharing this build with us, can you please share the exact cable you use as a case fan splitter ?
"SilverStone CPF01 Black 100mm PWM Fan Splitter Cable". Also the case already comes with one fan splitter built in for the top radiator fans.
Ace thanks for that info. I was after the same thing 😊
Very nice job
great vid
how about temps? And total weight of the PC?
Nice job with the AIO on the top. I got the same motherboard. I am worried about the RAM not fitting. How did you manage to get it to all fit? Will be building this weekend. Would like to know how.
NR200P MAX case comes with the AIO built in on top. I believe earlier versions of this case had the motherboard mounted in a higher position so you wouldn't be able to do this setup with an earlier version of NR200P.
I would’ve liked to see some performance and temperature benchmarks
Im on the same level as you man, i dont think he wanted to throw in the fact that he actually has a 7950x cpu sitting in their performing as a 7700x because he has no idea what he is doing and actually undervolted his 7950X.... SMH
Undervolting doesn’t hurt the performance that much does it ?
well i mean look at intels 13900k and the problems with how hot that chip gets it takes a monstoer cooler to keep t under control, if all you had to do was under volt it and the chip still preformed the same or close to the same, i dont think it would be such a big deal with how hot 13th gen is yu aknow? lol and with Ryzen thatswhy ryzen devolped PBO or precision boost overdrive youll have to lok that deffinition upit too lomng for this here but its a very effecitve and awesome technology ryzen made my 7800x3d and my 5900x are all tuned with pbo less heat and more performance! u nder volting is your absolute last and only hope if you have to under volt your chip your leaving alot of money and performance on the table justr buy the lowered tiered chip . and when u under volt u cant hit your boost clocks correctly or at all depending the chip sorry not gonna spell check im ijn a bumpy ass ride lol@@arnoldmerlot392
What then temps look like, tho’?
how is the temperature bro? what a tiny beast
Pardon my ignorance whats that thing at 5:30, does it come included with the case or fans? or whats that for? xd planning to copy your build
This is a part of the motherboard, I guess they couldn't fit all the parts on the board so made a riser card thing, a bit silly really. If you choose different motherboard then you wont have this and the front panel connector will plug straight into the motherboard.
Hi there, thanks for the vid, really helps to clear my doubt. Got a question though, may I know if the GPU touches the side panel? I'm planning to use the TG panel. Have you tried to use TG yourself?
About half a cm gap. It would restrict the gpu cooling a lot.
@@minkcos Thanks for the reply man. How's the Gaming X Trio so far? Have you encounter any coil whine issues? Seems most 4090 have it.
@@DeezyxZM at half load there is quite a lot of coil whine but I think this is from the power supply…
How does this card fit in the case when its 1mm over the max gpu clearance on the case?
Great build! Are you trying to start a fire? 😅
Seriously interested in the thermals for this setup though, the NR200P Max looks like such a good case.
thermals probably are pretty good, cpu is water cooler and the gpu is pointed straight at some vents
I have an NR200 as well with a 3080ti and the thermals are not bad at all. My build is arguably less optimized than his as well. The only thermal problem I have is with a glass panel but I avoid using it for that reason.
I managed to snag that same 4090 at msrp! I'm going for the exact same build as you, only difference is the type of ssd and the cpu is the 7950X3D. Also just realised, you put those bottom fans as exhaust? Won't that make the airflow worse?
Nice build. I won’t buy Samsung ssd anymore since there was a firmware issue that caused them to fail early. Bottom fans are exhaust to match the airflow of the gpu. If you decide to use glass panel then they are probably better as intake fans.
I have always wondered if you pack a case like this if it will overheat at some time? Does this kind of PC really work? The prebuilt itx pcs out there are usually with a low powered GPUs and CPUs. I kind of want a smaller case with a huge punch of power in it, but I have always wondered if it will run or run into issues with the heat dissipation. Something I could have on the desk instead of on the floor.
i run a 5950x with a 280mm rad (side mounted) and a rtx 3090 founders and have never had an issue with thermals. i do have 7 fans in this case as well.
@@davidswenda9908 I've started to come to the solution that these ITX cases can hold higher end components and that there are no glaring issues with it... But still would like to hear from people who have had the cohones to go for it already. Also, am not a pro PC builder, so getting everything right in one go might be a pipe dream for a new builder. Glad to hear you pushed a 3090 into one of those cases and it still functions well. If you have more similar examples, please let me know...
@@timometsanoja9666 i believe optimum tech put a rtx 4090 into a formula t1 case and it was thermally alright.
Will the GPU bent the front panel?
Thanks for sharing this. I've been searching for a while for nr200p max builds with a 4090 but could barely find any. I managed to snag a msi suprim x 4090 and I will also pair it with my 7950x. Btw you can still fit two 140mm fans at the bottom using spacers, I saw someone done this mod on reddit.
It looks like 120mm is the max fan size for the bottom panel.. any larger it would need to be mounted inside the case and not to the panel, and raising the fans up for to do this would put it too close to the PCIE riser.
@@minkcos They used the bottom fans as intake so the blades doesn't touch the riser cable. These fans can also be used as a sag bracket to hold up the gpu.
@@bp3019 I don't see the vertical mount sagging like the horizontal mounts do. Check out this vid for more detail with the fan mounting: th-cam.com/video/lltz-heW2LU/w-d-xo.html they do suggest intake if you're using glass panel.
Are you talking about low-profile 140mm fans, or regular?
@@sizableyeet regular 140 mm fans, lian li uni fans to be specific.
Does the second SSD slot utilize half of the PCIE lanes? I have a b450 ITX boards and it definitely does. Limits the GPU a bit.
The AM5 chipsets have 16 lanes dedicated to the PCIe slots so NVMe drives are not an issue, even with the cheapest chipset.
Thanks for the inspiration! Gonna do a very similar build soon. Question: Did you undervolt your 7950X or 4090 and adjust any fan curves? Much appreciated.
I run the 7950X in 105w eco mode, this MB has a limit for how low you can set the fan speeds, you need to run the fan calibration to set that. Top fans seem to work better in DC mode, have from 600rpm -> 1300 rpm. 600rpm is silent. Bottom fans are louder so I used the noctua silent adapter cable that is included with the fan to reduce the fan speeds. GPU cooling is good, and CPU cooling is good, however when both the cpu and gpu are maxed out the top radiator is pulling a lot of hot air from the gpu so the fans on this need to be powerful enough to also draw in some fresh air from the case.
@@minkcos Thanks man! I'm relatively new to the fine tuning side of PC building and this will be my first SFF build too. I just ordered the 7950X, but I might hold on to it and see how the 7950X3D compares when it gets released on the 28th. Cheers!
@@minkcos sorry to bother you again! I just got my 4090 in and started following your build. How did you connect your PSU cable to your PCIE adapters? Bc if you follow the recommended way of connecting it, it needs an extra PCIE cable.
@@minkcos I guess the question would be did you daisy chain or did you buy an extra cable?
@@Yo-Geo I daisy chained it to begin with and then got a custom cable from cablemod for it to make it more tidy. If you're using another cable then make sure it's compatible since the PCIE pinouts on this powersupply are wired different to most others.
Great build brother. How have thermals and noise been while gaming?
Very good thermals on GPU, slightly louder than NZXT 710 but still quiet, I think aftermarket fans on the top will help. Also having the vented steel side panel instead of glass allows some fan noise to escape. I'll try to do a follow up video on this.
@@minkcos follow up?
I'm a little bit worried about the lower fans. Have you lifted it up a bit?
The case feet raise it a few cm off the ground. You can also 3D print custom feet for it.
Thanks for the Video , just have a silly questions maybe
Its about how to Plug in safely the 4090 fe
The Original Cable from NVIDIA has 4 Pci 8 outputs, but on the nr200p max we only have 3inputs
How did you solve that?
I got a custom cable from cable mod for this. If you’re ordering the cable make sure to select the right brand and model powersupply as the modular plugs are different for each one.
hey man, I'm going for the exact build. Could you plz share which splitter cable you used for the fans? Thanks!!!
"SilverStone CPF01 Black 100mm PWM Fan Splitter Cable". Also the case already comes with one fan splitter built in for the top radiator fans. Those noctua slim fans come with silent adapters you can add to the cable if theyre too loud for you..
where do the top fans plug into?
Case comes with fan splitter cable routed in, needs to plug into the cpu fan connector on the motherboard.
Why the noctua Löw Fans are air pulling out? Is it not better when they take air in?
This is to help with the air flow of the GPU. The graphics card draws in air through the side and exhausts it mostly through the top and bottom, so the case is following the same airflow path as the GPU. If using the tempered glass panel then they should be changed to intake fans. I've also removed the air filter from the bottom to improve airflow. And added some fan guards to prevent the cables from falling in. It runs cooler than a ATX case with a glass panel. Checkout this more detailed video with fan setup and benchmarks: th-cam.com/video/lltz-heW2LU/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant build. Just about to buy this same case with a 4090 FE and AMD 5800X3D. What is the noise levels like these days for you whilst gaming ?
It's pretty much silent. I had to play with the fan optimizer a bit in bios though to bring down the default fan speeds for the radiator. Some 4090 will have coil whine but FE might be ok.
Hi, very nice job! I appreciate so much this your build, so I wish know if it's possible to make some changes to it. In particular, I wish know if it's possible to fit in the same case a 4090 FE card, to replace the stock psu with a 1000W SF-L psu and if the stock AIO work fine with a Ryzen 7 5800 x3d. The rest of your build is perfect for me too, so I won't be making any other changes.
It will fit the 4090 fe and the aio should also work
@@dominicyang776 Thanks so much!
why would u pull out and replace the PSU when the PSU is included with the nr200p max and also cooler master provided custom length cables to minimize cable management which also provides less room the cables will have to interrupt airflow being that their is not much to begin with?
great vid, the voice over is a bit scratchy but nonetheless loved the vid
may i confirm this sir your top AIO and bottom fans are all set as exhaust?
Yes, seems to be the best setup with the vented panel.
I want t the same thing but with a rtx 3090 from a dell Alienware pc and ryzen 9 5950x do you think I should use a 1000w power supply, I'm not overclocking just trying to make things compact.
The 850w psu that is included with the case would be sufficient.
Hi @minkcos. Last week my build started to crash during games to black screen with 4090 fans spinning at 100%. I believe this to be due to the Cablemod 12VHPWR cable which was removed and replaced with the MSI cable daisychained to PSU. After that the crashing stopped. I have raised a ticket with Cablemod who recognize it as an issue with their angled connector. Have you encountered a similar issue, or did I just get unlucky with my cable?
I haven't had this issue, however I got an early version of the cable without the angle connector.
@@minkcos yes angled connector definitely preferred as the MSI one I'm now using is squished up against the PSU, plus daisy chained PCI-E cables supplied with the case are very bulky in such a tight space. Hoping Cablemod can ship out a replacement that works soon.
@@minkcos I received the replacement 12VHPWR cable from Cablemod, but a few months later the fault occurred again, which leads me to believe their cables aren't up to the job. I'll RMA it again but doesn't make sense to get the same one again for a potential third failure. Provided you haven't had a similar problem with your (different) Cablemod 12VHPWR, can you provide some details so I can get the same as a replacement please. Thanks Stephen!
Looking to get this gpu, did you just use the two daisy chained 8 pins for the gpu? Is it able to handle the 450 + watts?
I daisy chained one of the connectors. I believe cablemod now supports the coolermaster v850 sfx so you can order a custom cable that will use 3x modular connectors to the powersupply.
@@minkcos thanks i'll check them out
hi, I’m going to build NR200p with msi 4080 trio. I have some questions 1) would this fit with cooler sfx psu bought myself? 2)how will the rgb lighting perfom? Because I actually spent some money on the rgb light and it seems that few itx cases can fit this gpu.
If you stupidly bought an itx case with the idea of providing as much RGB as possible then your dumber than a box of rocks. and if you ACTUALLY replaced cooler masters 850watt PSU with the provided custom length cables they give you with a so called "cooler psu" you really really are taking stupid to the next level. you might wanna stick with some childish and horribly built, and thermally throttled computer from Alienware in the hopes of having as much gay ass RGB as possible. RIP to the poor poor NR200P Max that was subjected to this preteen kids horrible torture of being stuffed with as much RGB or unicorn shit as possible. It deserves a Heroes burial when it can finally escape the grasps of your meat beaters.
Hi I gave a Sub, I have the Same system to build , I Only have the ryzen 7700 , Would you recomend a CPU frame to mount the aio level with is case ???? Thanks
I think that’s only an Intel thing, it works fine with no frame.
will MSI RTX 4070 GAMING X TRIO fit in?
What about the actual performance though?
Nice build. A few questions:
1) how did you connect the power supply? The case comes with 2 PCI-e cables + 2 daisy chain connectors.
2) Do you hear any ticking / clicking noise from the AIO pump?
For GPU power I daisy chained one of the cables, there was some sheet that came with the GPU showing not to connect like this but for me it seems to still be within spec. The GPU should draw max of 450W and each cable can provide 288W, maybe I'm just living on the edge. I should point out here that there is a huge risk of mismatching the cables for this powersupply and causing a short circuit. It's a CoolerMaster V850 SFX gold, the pin outs for the PCI-e modular connectors are wired opposite to the more common Corsair cables, but it's the same plug. So if you were to grab a modular cable from a Corsair power supply, or if you got a custom 12VHPWR cable from cable mod which is not specifically made for this power supply then it will cause a short.
@@minkcos what 4090 pulls max of 450w
I had nr200p max, if you hear ticking / clicking noise from AIO pump remove installed fan cover
@@deorendy5693 I experience this issue. What do you mean with remove installed fan cover? How can a fan cover cause the AIO clicking to go away? Not sure I understand. Thanks.
@alexandervillumsen1241 nr200p max come with 14cm fan on 280mm aio, it makes more vibration on high rpm than 12cm fan. It's the fan cover that being collided with the fan that makes the tickling noises. Just try it, I already replace it with arctic fan and not using the fan cover and my pc silent like midnight
Amazing, are you using the stock PSU? I hear it SHOULD be sufficient, even more so if you underlock your 4090. How has it been holding up so far? Did you just use the included power cables for the GPU?
this i wish i knew too, i imagine its the bare minimum. I wish they would sell this case no PSU, so we could get a 1000
@@davysmith8569 u can just buy sfx psu for 1000w
@@Joze10 actually ended up doing that , got the "Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply" works good too!
is the 850 watt psu cutting it?
Good day, just to check with a GPU this big will you be able to mount a 3.5 inch HDD directly on the PSU?
No, the only space for 3.5" would be mounted to the bottom panel instead of fans. Also with this particular motherboard the sata ports are blocked by the position of the power supply so you would need to choose a different motherboard.
@@minkcos Thanks for the reply. Any issue with overheating when stacking nvme ssd?
I am planning to have same gaming x trio gpu but only 4070, thickness might be different but length is the same. Is the length of this card completely fit inside the case or u need some modding? As specs say gaming x trio length is 338mm but nr200p max gpu length is 336mm, I am kinda worry
I didn’t do any mods to fit the 4090, card was touching the inside of the case tho.
How much horizontal space you have left after you install the 4090? The length of your MSI card is 337MM. It's shorter than 4090 cards from other brands, which many have their measurements at over 340MM.
This card is touching the inside of the case so it's the maximum length, a 340mm card will not fit without modifying the case. The Suprim X also fits with a 1mm gap.
@@minkcos thank you!
what PSU You used ? // ohh i seee... did this case version have all included right ? AIO CPU and PSU also.. is it SFX850 ? can You tell a model. I got different ITX build in Thermaltake 100 but i see many ITX cases will get problems to fit new GPU Cards because they are 3 slots + , not much 2.7 slot left
It comes with a CoolerMaster V850 SFX GOLD. I want to change this power supply though as my one has quite bad coil whine.
@@minkcos coil whine is hard to avoid in current times... good is someone is working in pc shop, otherwise many times is a just good luck pick up. Thank You for answer. I got EVGA GM650 and I think PSU is not making coilwhine, but other EVGA in my home does. But in Europe po 230V EVGA 650W is max, in USA is available 850 also.. Hmm People recommending a lot Corsair 750 platinum but also it is max what is available for SFX.
Do you have the link for the cable from cablemod? I got the 4070ti msi gaming x trio and i assume it would also work with the one you got?
Use the configurator 2.0 for custom cable: store.cablemod.com/configurator/
@@minkcosperfect thank you and also which PSU is the one that comes with the nr200p max stock
It's coolermaster one... www.coolermaster.com/au/en-au/catalog/power-supplies/v-series/v850-sfx-gold/ @@nando6333
Very nice build! Love this video. I am interested in using this case as well, I have a gigabyte 4090 windforce which is 331 x 150 x 70 vs your MSI trio 337 x 140 x 77.
Based on these dimensions my windforce should be able to fit too right inside the nr200p max ?
Anything under 336 should fit.
Lol. I was doing the same calculations!
How are the thermals on the cpu? I would change the top 2 fans to intake so that the radiator gets fresh air.
The question is what about the thermals.
damn im assuming the strix 4090 will not fit
whta motherboard is it?
what is the motherboard?
what psu was used?
My question is will the 4090 FE fit into the OG NR200? if i had bulit my PC when the max came out i would have chose that but i'm stuck with the OG NR200.
AFAIK there shouldn't be an issue with fitment. The dimensions are the same length-wise.
Would MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X fit as well? Only 1 -2mm difference here and there but may actually make a ton of difference.
Yeah it fits, I'm using Suprim X now.. I think it's a better card than the Ventus
@@minkcosThank you so much for this video. I got a lot of similar components for my build and this video helped me a ton. I added Noctua NA-FG1-12 fan grills on top of each bottom Noctua NF-A12x15 fan and they fit perfectly - should anyone wonder. In addition I added "2 x SilverStone SST-CP11-300" - ultra thin SATA cables to connect the front SSDs. I tried the standard 90 degree SATA ones and I couldn't fit them in there - not enough clearance between the PSU and the FPS-II card. This made me think whether that MB is actually a good choice for this case - mainly because of the additional FPS-II card that gets in the way. Perhaps ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING WIFI would be a better choice?
Re. the case itself, do you - or anyone else for that matter - think the temps would be better if the top fans worked as intake instead of the stock exhaust or do you think it wouldn't make much of a difference?
Again, thanks a mil.
@@1111TP1111 there's another video about thermal performance: th-cam.com/video/_6k2GvJP6tE/w-d-xo.html running top fans as intake could make the gpu hotter. if CPU is running hot then check that windows is in Balanced power mode instead of high performance, it can make a big difference.
Did you need to buy the 12 pin power connector separately?
4090 comes with an adapter cable that splits out to 3x 8pin pcie power connectors, the PSU comes with 2x pcie power cables, each cable splits out to two 8 pin connectors, so it's possible to connect it by daisy chaining one of the cables but documentation shows not to do this since one of the cables could be overloaded. Its much tidier to buy the custom 16pin cable from cablemod that goes straight from gpu to powersupply.
Thank you, ordering from cablemod now. Appreciate it! @@minkcos
Congrats man, nice build and thanks for sharing.
Im planning to build the exact same parts but with 13900k.
Would you be able to fit a regular 120 bottom fan under the PSU?
Im planning to fit a slim 120 fan under the riser and a 120x25 fan under the PSU.
Yeah that works fine but you should also get a fan grill to keep the wires from poking into the fans.
The 240mm AIO will not handle your cpu... the cpu in the video is also overkill for the AIO
With these Mini-iTX boards only supporting 64gb ram, is that enough for todays high end max setting games? Thank you
ram is not so important these days with fast m2 ssd. Last one I played Hogwarts Legacy only recommends 32GB to run in Ultra graphics. www.hogwartslegacy.com/en-au/pc-specs
Fans on bottom should be pushing upwards. GPU is already pushing out hot air out into the case, introducing fresh air into the case will help to not suffocate the rest of your components.
How does the 4090 work with 3x 8 pin PSU headers versus running 4 separate to the NVIDIA adapter?
That's what you would think, but from others who have tested exhaust at top and bottom give better thermals.
true wrong placement of fans.
@@mauree1618 This is right.. The entire side panel is an intake, GPU will intake from the side and exhaust the hot air directly up and down so the case fans will continue this flow. This is different to the more common setup of using a glass side panel and needing a single direction of airflow through the case.
Why bottom fans as outtake? It is fighting natural thermal convection and also with 4 fans doing outtake (2 bottom, 2 top) creates negative pressure in the case which will collect dust.
I have this case, you want the bottom fans drawing air away from the GPU so the AIO isn't getting a dual load of hot air from both CPU and GPU, I played around with is and it drops temps
@@neilmcdonald1766 so is it better to have the bottom fans as exhaust?
Sweet build man. I really wanna build my next computer in the same case with a 7700x and a 4070ti but I’m not sure I wanna spend that much money on the same motherboard you have. Any suggestions?
Yeah don’t use this motherboard. There is a cheap msi one you can use.
@@minkcos thankyou very much for this video. You've inspired me to attempt a build using the same case with a MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio and the just released Ryzen 7 7800x3d. I like the look of the mITX ASUS motherboards and thinking the ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I might be a good choice. Given your experience would you recommend it?
@@frostylonsdale8377 Yeah, when I built mine there was only one itx motherboard available. B650E-I looks like much better choice. Also chipset fan on the 670 is noisy but I think 650 only has the vrm fan which runs quieter.
@@minkcos thanks for confirming. My only other concern with your build is the daisy chained third PCIE 8 pin connected to the 4090. I ordered a custom 3x8 pin PCIE to 12VHPWR cable from Cablemod but that won't reach me in Perth, Western Australia for a month. No issues so far with your power supply to the GPU?
@@frostylonsdale8377 I didn't have any issues with daisychain, I've been using custom cable now though.
Hey man I have question for you. I do almost same build but with Intel but I ran in problem that sfx power supply comes only with 2 pci-e cables. Where did you buy the 3rd one or can you send me the link ? I just wanna make sure I buy the proper one. Thanks for the answer
Also asking because on gpu they make clear to use 3 pci-e cables not two and spliter on one of them
store.cablemod.com/configurator/ you can choose the coolermaster V850SFX gold, and "16 Pin Micro-Fit to 3x8 Pin PCI-E 12VHPWR 600W Cable for NVIDIA 4000 Series (GPU)", Yeah make sure you use a proper one, the modular cables have different wiring between brands so you cant just use one from another power supply.
@@minkcos how long should it be?
hi stephen
i have exactly the same component that you have in this build but upon the first boot i could not get to the bios
i am so frustrated now i do not know what's the issue every thing same to work the gpu the ram and the aio all work but there are no display what so ever
did you encounter any issue like that ??
First boot takes longer than usual so you can give it a few minutes. You can also try without the GPU and use the onboard graphics.
@@minkcos thanks for the reply it was the bios update is the issue
anyhow did u figure out how to deal with the long booting and the loud fan noise from the back of the motherboard????
@@fahadabdalaziz6864 To improve boot time you can enable "Memory Context Restore" in the BIOS. Its buried in the menu so google where it is. The motherboard has two hidden tiny fans, one for VRM and one for Chipset, the chipset fan is the loudest. The bios doesn't give you any control for the fan speed of these. It is possible to turn the chipset fan off by setting the fan mode to none in bios.. but could overheat? What I've done with mine is remove the plastic covers, and move the fan to on top of the chipset heatsink, taping it on, this is very hacky. But its much more muffled being deep within the case.
Does anyone know what type of screws are used to secure the water block to the AM5 bracket? My Nr200 max was missing the four screws to mount the water block.
Hi mate, did you find out a solution? Having the same problem! :(
Can someone help me i ordered the PowerColor Radeon RX 7900 XTX Red Devil Limited Edition and want to build it with the i913900k will my gpu fit there
will gskill trident z5 have clearance issues?
Not sure. Best to check the manual for the measurements. Anything bigger than suprim x wouldn’t fit.
Would I be able to do a similar build with a 13900Ks i9 , using the same PSU?
Yeah, it's within spec, there is a power calculator here: www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/
What’s the psu?
Hey, do i need a third pci-E power cable for a rtx 4080 in this case ? as far as i know it comes only with two cables .
If you don't want to daisy chain them then you can order a custom 12VHPWR cable from cablemod. You would need to select coolermaster sfx 850 for powersupply since the cables are not compatable with other brands.
@@minkcos hey , thx for the answer. The Question is , do i need to buy an extra cable or does daysie chaining worl just fine.
That is one dense, hot, expensive, and powerful box 😅
I can’t afford a new PC yet. I think I will wait until mid range GPUs can hit 4k 120 on high settings in demanding single player games. I’m willing to save up for such a rig. I’m fine with an i5 or equivalent CPU as well, no need to have a top of the line chip.
For now I’ll just drool over these builds 😅 Thanks for the video!
understand that as game development progresses, games become more and more demanding. Mid range GPUs will usually stay in the same range of performance. 4K 60 is great for single player. that’s what i play usually. anything over 60 for single player games is usually a ego or “feel good” requirement. that’s just my opinion though
Yes, best to focus on $ per performance, although even the most budget PC's now are so much faster than what I had growing up. Haha I miss those days of yearning for things I couldn't afford.
Coming from the dude that has a 7950x Undervolted or on "eco mode" hell just buy a 7700x if your wanting to have a 7950x perform in that range anyways for absolutely no reason, just funny or ironic to hear you talk about $ to performance. and then mock some grown ass man about " oh how you miss the days of being broke? like your talking to some 11 year old little kid. also your choice of music or if you call that music to this video was a depressing ass choice, you remastering a scene from the notebook or are you showing people how to buy high end hardware and build a computer then under volt shit because you don't now how to optimize all that high end hardware, maybe with all that money you think you have how about "yearning for a tutorial on how to make and edit videos with a long category on music choice" @@minkcos
Does the amd aio adapter come with the CPU?
It's included with the case: coolermaster.egnyte.com/dl/08QSK8tKoO
@@minkcos Great! Thanks man.
isnt the pcie riser that comes with these are gen 3 and not 4 ?
NR200P Max comes with a gen 4 riser
@@minkcos ah yes. Forgot it's the max version. My bad 😃
when he put the gpu in, im like wtf???
bro literally jamming in a $2000 gpu and not giving a fuck 😂
@@wilazn fr😭
He negotiated. 6:21
DUde realized he needs some light already at half way of the video
Suggestion: maybe next video in pitchblack, i mean sight is overrated anyway
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Hello:) Is the 850W PSU enough to power this system without any problems? I've read that the 4090 requires a 1000W PSU to run well. Thanks for the video!
1000+ w minimum
I did a similar build today but my computer keep giving me a warning saying “cpu over temperature error” I did everything I could think of, I checked the aio if it’s seated properly, checked fan headers multiple times, readjusted the aio pump but it still shows up as N/A in the bios. Is the pump dead? Where did I go wrong?
I'll assume you got the basics right like removing the plastic on the heatsink and using enough thermal paste. Pump should be plugged into the AIO pump header on the motherboard since this header is set to always run at 100% by default. If pump is working ok then the radiator will get warm. If pump is not working then radiator will still be cold and CPU block will be hot. Also make sure you don't have any overclocking enabled.
@@minkcos yeah I did all the basics, I even decided to re adjust the pump and re apply thermal paste but it’s the same result. I think the pump as to be the issue because I couldn’t feel any movement in the tubes and the radiator still feels cold.
Brackets on the right way?
@@bp3019 so how did the story end? Did you find the problem?