I had a good laugh (in a good way) when you said you would make the exhaust quieter, rather than noisier. Hear hear! I agree wholeheartedly. I was a weirdo as a young bloke. Even then, I wanted the inside of my car to be quiet and smooth, didn't care too much about outside as a young bloke though.
There are two kinds of silicone sealant; neutral cure and acidic cure. Most common modern silicone sealants are neutral cure, and have no affect on metal finishes.
Way more than 2 types, but us plumbers were taught to use acid cure on glass and tiles as it etches and bonds to these slick non-corrosive surfaces, and we used neutral cure on guttering, and whatever was handy for bogging up holes that let water in. It’s so easy now, just use an auto or marine grade goo on vehicles, formulated to handle continuous vibration - the sort of stuff that is holding your windscreen onto your vehicle right now. Sika make so many types and you can get them on the shelf at hardware or auto stores, the package tells you what they are for. There are high temp goos that hold the glass onto the door of your oven, and fire resistant, and marine grade, and some cure hard for sanding and some retain flexibility for expansion/contraction/vibration.
So just putting this out there be aware. Received my sandy taupe 2021 troopy 4 months ago and was told by CMI Toyota Adelaide putting a oil catch can will void your warranty also changing to a different exhaust such as larger exhaust will also void your warranty chipping remapping voids your warranty. Fitting a secondary fuel filter is OK as long it is installed by a qualified diesel mechanic. All cosmetic work such as bar work, spotlights, winch is fine. Best to check before doing the work as you don't want to to lose your warranty on a $80,000 vehicle.
Andrew, did you consider mounting the 2nd fuel filter next to the factory filter considering there is a heap of space and no 2nd battery going in there. I put mine there and you don't have 2 long hoses crossing the engine bay and prolonging the bleeding process. Just needs a custom bracket as the aftermarket hasn't caught up with that option yet.
Like Phil G , I have my secondary filter set close to the factory unit, whilst originally it took the fuel first I have now set it after the Toyota original, this after taking to highly regarded diesel shop : might as well get some worth from the factory filter , have it catch the bigger stuff rather than replace it at service unsoiled, thanks for your videos, Phil H
Phil 14 I'd stop going to that diesel shop mate. The aftermarket filter, filters the down to between 11-9 microns, the factory Toyota filter filters the fuel to 2 microns. Having the second filter before the factory helps the factory filter last longer. Having it after the factory filter dose nothing because the factory filter filters at a smaller micron then the aftermarket one. The shop should know that
Watch your insurance with these mods! If for instance the re-routed fuel line was to fail spraying diesel on the hot exhaust and causing an engine fire, your pretty well on your own! I can imagine the conversation with your insurance company, "Did you you modify the fuel system in this instance?" - "er yes" - " Sorry no can help with your claim".
Two things to note with catch can madness, 1: only those that sell them spruke the value of them with dubious claims and videos of oil captured saying this is bad (it is not generally bad and is well catered for in normal running).2: because of the dubious nature of catch cans there is no research around to test identical engines with/without one for many kms then doing a strip down to measure the difference, why no research I assert because it's likely a complete waste of time and it's a need assessed by an aftermarket industry to capture "money". Probably far better to regularly service the engine and ensure intake system is not cracked and leaky. And finally if you do lots of stop start short cold start trips get engine serviced more regularly rather than rely on a catch can to catch some cool running vapours.
Peter Mills, I agree. I've had catch cans before and they do not keep the intake clean. The soot from the EGR still finds some oil that got past the catch can and still get black gunk in the intake. They are a waste of money. Need to block/disable the EGR to stop black gunk.
They are a awesome product the Terrain Tamer catch can, the only thing I think that lets them down are the tiny flimsy screws ( allen key x 4 ) that need to be undone to conduct a filter replacement.
Good to know I'm not the only person in Australia who would get a 70s series if it didn't have a V8. Heck if they made a cheaper version with a Hilux motor I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
That is an awesome kit. I run a very primitive homemade kit on my 81’ Toyota pickup with a 22r gas engine, it’s amazing all the crud that get caught in there. Great vid!
DPF is only an issue on vehicles that stay within city/towns only, they never heat up correctly to burn the deposits, get a gasoline engine vehicle if you’re a city person or only use highways infrequently....
PS. Try using baby wipes (UK Name not sure) when cleaning/smoothing out sealant. Saves discoloured fingernails and the water/soap stops the sealant adhering to new surfaces as you smooth the surface. Bit late now, but thought I’d help out even though you don’t like Landrovers….
With fuel issues lve found regularly adding a good fuel treatment every tank refill breaks down most contamination in fuel,breaks down water also to safely burn these safely, it really doesn't cost too much plus a good extra diesel system filter system l would add with the factory system, kind regards Roy
"I'd drive an electric 4wd in a hearbeat" - I can wait for the day when you build out a Rivian R1S in your typical Troopie conversion style. If only Tesla would do a wagon/SUV style version of the CT. It's boxiness would be perfect for a camping setup.
Thousands of pounds of batteries, Lots of different systems to keep them To not overheat. How do you recharge in the middle of the woods. I hope they can figure out solutions to those problems soon because I am really excited for electric off-road vehicles just like you
Yes and the wheight will prohibit you from going to quite a few places. Imagine getting the ev drowned at Nolans. An ev will just be a soft roader at this stage until technology can catch up with the terrain it will be used in. Wheight kills over landing!
A hot tip with the air cleaner seal Andrew, load it up both sides with rubber grease for extra protection from dust ingress. The grease acts as a flexible barrier to stop the dust.
I got the Provent 200 for my 1GDFTV Hilux. You buy it in a kit with a bracket that allows for a double battery. But ask Western Filters, they will give you a stainless mounting bracket that will place it nicely where second battery would go, using factory threads... much easier to plumb, drain and avoid rubbing of pipes.
Found significant improvement on 2010 3L TD Hilux using Fuel Doctor additive. Impressed it assists in removing water from diesel. Looking forward to following build as I did with last 3 of yours. May be in a position to buy a new troopy in 2022, hopefully!
Those Milwaukee 12v ratchets are the most valuable tool in a shed. My uni chip in my vd troopy gave grief and issues . It ended up frying out. I would recommend don't chip it but remap it.
Andrew, a couple of points to note if I may.........if your dream tourer build caught that volume of dirty oil vapours after just 14,000kms and I assume being a low mileage engine unit, let me tell you.......I think you may have had bigger problems! Regular maintenance and using correct OEM oils and filtration units is key to reliability. Also.....maybe consider revisiting the location of your second fuel filtration unit, the hose routing is way too long which will inevitability cause you system bleeding problems whilst you are on the road and you failed to comment on the microns in which it filters down too. A waste of money if it does not filter at least as low as the factory unit. Have you considered if this affects the fuel flow rate volume and pressure as this is often an oversight when fitting these after market filters as the fuel on modern common rail systems is imperative. Lastly, have you considered attaining access to the intank sender unit? Thus when you identify poor quality fuel, an avid overlander will feel this in the vehicle running/driving quality very quickly after the tank fill. The access will allow your to remove the fuel in full with ease before causing any major damage.
I’d only go with an electric car if they can do without lithium. Lithium mines, especially in Australia are so detrimental to the environment, even more so that exhaust fumes. Something to consider if you’re thinking it’ll be better for the environment
Learn so much from your videos, great help to me so I would like to say Thankyou. Love your videos and look forward to everyone of them since the 1st one, I was totally mesmerised by it to the point I’ve just finished my tourer. It’s definitely not the typical tourer. It’s a Triton🤫, with alloy canopy , lithium batteries with a redarc RedVision system and I LOVE IT! Thanyou for giving me the passion to build it.😁
Great video Andrew. I fitted the catch can to my 1HD and it seems like the pressure out of the oil filler cap increased. And now oil is passing my rocker cover(which I will change soon.) Was wondering if you checked and it experienced an increase in the pressure passing your oil filler hole. Agree 2 filters especially in Africa.
Well said 💯. I have a water watch and a provent 200 catch can. Looking for a airbox fix and you have given that to me. Thank you. Re dpf. I work with fleets including mining. Dpf in cruiser is a quality system and has no effect on performance compared to pre dpf looking at the stats. Exhaust for me? Yes. Reduced turbo temp, slight increase in power/delivery. Chip? No. Seen too many shit themselves. Thanks Andrew! Very enjoyable
G'day Andrew, Another good video mate, I always think to myself that after spending a considerable amount of hard earned cash that you end up having to add-on components that you would expect any manufacturer worth their salt should have fitted as standard. One thing that I do consider a poor/good example is Toyotas refusal to acknowledge the rear axel width in particular, Anyway Mate great help to all future diesel engine buyers.
Hi Andrew . Have you used the flashlube catch can on the v8 before ? I found I had a blowby issue with the flashlube on my 200 series. Replaced it with the larger provent unit and the problem went away . The provent is a larger unit with a bigger filter which would suggest better airflow. . Cheers
Hi Andrew, I have been thinking about fitting one of these to my landy (Hehe insert Leaky Landy joke here). I have been back and forth debating the reasons you mentioned as well an cons. MY point of view is: Pros is it should keep the MAP sencer clean and reduce that EGR build up. My landy has had the EGR removed so no issues there. Cons and to throw a cat amongst the pigeons, spanner in the gears. Surly a little oil on the turbo impel would be a benefit to not have it and the inter cooler just needs a tap to drain the condensed oil off. Inter cooler has far more surface area than the mesh/sponge/baffle or cyclone affect of a can? Love to hear your opinion Regards to all, Paul
Andrew. I’ve been looking in to secondary filters for a while and finding it hard to find evidence that the factory filters aren’t sufficient to protect the engine. Googling it only results in everyone trying to sell you a second filter. Have you ever heard of the primary system actually failing to do it job protecting a modern engine? Not trying to start an argument. I’m genuinely trying to find the facts as I’m concerned about warranties. 5 years down the track, I’ll be happy to fit one…
Andrew is not saying that the original is not working - it did in his troopy- but to make sure it won't stop you if you happen to buy bad fuel; Apparently some people mix fuel up to make more profit- You don't want to end up in the middle of nowhere with a clogged up fuel filter; the second one is to make sure the original can do its work. Its making sure you keep driving! I don't think he would recommend it if you are only doing town miles.
I have a friend with well in excess of 400,000km on his v8 cruiser 79. Always gets it serviced well over its due date, never maintains it properly. He hasnt put a spanner on that engine or any of its injectors and does not have any secondary filters installed.
depends whether you want long term or short term reliability Andrew note you might be barred from entering certain with the dpf deployed within the vehicle due to fire hazard it can cause..
Hi Andrew, quick question. I understand that this is the only heavy-duty 4x4 van available, but why is the rest of the 70 series so highly regarded? From you I have learned that the interior is shit, the audio is shit, the empty ride is rough, the rear axle is too skinny, the frame needs to be lengthened, the alternator is placed too low, and the airbox doesn't seal. And it's expensive. Watching the 4WD Action boys, they do break down. This doesn't sound like a car worthy of all of the lust it gets.
They’re poorly designed and engineered. But has a cult following, so it’s like selling ice to eskimos, people willl buy them no matter the cost. Debt can be paid at a later date, so the price isn’t an issue for most
@@GR8Tmate Thanks for the reply. I suppose I look at it from a daily driver perspective as I have never crossed Africa or Australia nor will I. Here in the US people love to say I wish we got those here but I'm just thinking that something this tough isn't necessary.
@@GR8Tmate I hear ya. When Andrew was here in the states he made the same point about Australia being much more sparse. I think he was talking about the common lack of a shower rig on vehicles because we can just drive to civilization. And I drive a 4Runner (american fourtuner) with 190,000 miles, so I'm no hater. I guess my point is we Americans beg for the 70 series on the forums but I think many of them would be disappointed with it when they aren't using it to its full potential. I suppose I was a little harsh with my first comment, but when a vehicle is commonly cut in half and lengthened from the factory it got me thinking. And yes, maybe one day I'll be wheeling a Toyota in some red dirt on the wrong side of the road, but for now I have Utah.
Those catch cans are to small need a provent 200 or equivalent at least with a bigger filter size and volume of airflow. V8 is to big for it especially if you get it tuned.
Sounds like beer napkin theory to me. I only do 200km a week with my 4.0L and that can easily fill the drain tube up. Fuel contamination in the oil shows just how much filtering work it can do because you've got a whole lot of extra vapour to pull out of the air.
@@jimtekkit that’s why most tuners disconnect the flash lube can before tuning because there not big enough. I’m sure most diesel tuners know what there doing.
Perhaps if you are worried about a chip/remap, an option might simply be a throttle response controller, as you will find that a good portion of the performance feel from the previous unichip was the change in throttle response. I have a unichip (5 program) and am really happy with it, though am getting it reprogrammed back to just 3 engine maps but having the top one and lowest one duplicated with different throttle response.
Makes me think what sort of videos these will be in 10 years when we will be modifying the electric overlanders. Can't really modify an electric motor to make it any more reliable! Can't imagine many trying to get more power out of them as they will already be insane from the factory. Probably more adding solar panels to charge during camping etc... Looking forward to when you start getting a chance to review these when they get to Australia. Rivian has just started delivering their vehicles in the USA!
Some yrs ago I had to change my rusted stock muffler to a new one and was recommended a model with "a notch more brooom" on my Jeep WJ (sorry, I have no idea what brand and model). With age - just as Andrew and most of us will face - my comfort level has become more "sensitive", and consequently I'm now seriously considering "downgrading" to stock again.
Andrew, loving the new build series (cant progress quickly enough), but one thing..... is that the Clifton Suspension bridge on the poster in the background? Im sat about 5 miles away from it now!
Hi Andrew, Thanks for the video. Regarding the chip. I have same car. Had Unichip and also remap. Had big reliability problems with Turbo surge and I do lots of remote work. Ended up removing both and replaced ECU. Now just run a EVC throttle controller and its all you need. Zippy around town and dumb it down for off-road. Just returned from Cape York and it was great on the tracks. Honestly wouldn't bother with Chips or remaps now I have used the throttle controller on its own. Thought I would let you know as you may think the same
I regularly see people fitting catch cans to their vehicles. Makes absolute sense from a longevity perspective. What I always wonder is why you wouldn't go with an Air Oil Separator (AOS) instead which returns the oil captured to the crank-case. AOS fitment for the same reason is very common in the Subaru community.
I don’t recon that’s accurate. Given the engine has an EGR system. would one rather some soot (abrasive) from the exhaust gasses get stuck in a light residue of oil in the intake, or the abrasive soot go through the cylinders as well as prematurely wearing out valve seats as it passes. From longevity standpoint it makes little sense unless the EGR injection is reduced or eliminated (which is not legal)…
@@connorsmith7531 wo what makes no sense - catch cans, Air Oil Separators or both of them? A lot of Diesel Mechanics I talked to (here in Germany) reckon that both makes no sense but I see that a lot of Ozzies swear on it.
@@vomKuckucksfelsen in my opinion industry has convinced Australian market that they need them (catch cans). Especially the 4x4 market over here, it’s a constant barrage of what you ‘need to take care’ of your a modern Diesel engine. Makes people paranoid because parts are so expensive here.
That looks like a Mann Provent 200? In all my research, I keep coming back to that one over and over again based on the material used to catch the oil particulates as well as the blow off valve in the event something goes wrong(you don't want to blow up your engine).
Good one mate . And on top of that your a bloody top bloke and we could possibly be great mates . When your finished with your troopy can I have it . 😀
Andrew, from your experience, do you need a catch-can on an NA unleaded petrol 4WD? I've done many searches, but all points to diesel engines only. Even the catch-can kits you can buy are always for the diesel version of 4WDs. I have a 1996 4.5L petrol 80 Series GXL. Would you put one on it?
@@4xoverland Thanks Andrew. Loving the Troopy build series BTW. I look forward to each episodes. And also interested to see videos of the RR Classic resto-mod, when that's underway. 👍
4xoverland Andrew the catch can is mostly collecting engine oil from piston blow-by, the fuel type is irrelevant. All turbo engines petrol and diesel can benefit from fitting one.
If your factory engine set-up is anything like mine (1998 100 Series GXL 1HZ) then it won't have an emissions reducing EGR system from factory, so any benefit of a catch-can is significantly reduced. Toyota didn't fit EGR system on my model until 2002.
"I'd drive an electric 4wd in a hearbeat" I’ve read an article in the abc, Toyota have been testing 79series electric version in the mines in Oz. You might get your wish. Mmm in the outback? Charging stations?
Any kind of travel with any kind of machine relies on infrastructure to support it. One day it will be sufficient to support electric long distance driving. But until it is, we must rely on the internal combustion engine infrastructure.
@@4weeksleave there is nowhere near enough surface area for such a heavy vehicle. for 20 years Australia has hosted a global solar only drive from darwin to adelaide, corona has hampered it but its very interesting.
@@andrewb5887 very true, but with advances in solar panel technology, batteries, charging infrastructure and a support network as Andrew commented above it will be possible one day.
Owning a 76 2 door Range Rover myself I would love to buy the t shirt with the Classic 2 door pictured that you often wear however appears not to be a stock item?
DPChip is the way to go, don't buy plug and play though, make sure that your vehicle is dyno tuned and the chip tuned to your specific vehicle and then you will have maximum efficiency , reliability and longevity from your engine. Avoid the tuners that deliver huge torque settings by remapping your ECU, most are from overfueling and will eventually destroy your engine.
Donnot remove the dpf, you don't have issues with poor quality diesel. If you were in Africa yes I would say go euro 2/3 but there you have higher quality fuel and better emissions. Better intercooler, better hoses and a stage 1 or 2 remap and you will be fine.
It's a privilege to have Roothy working on your car.
What a legend!
Ah nope!
If you have watch Roothy"s video on tuning the 12H-T it's 90% incorrect.
If ya have the gift of the gab, anyone will believe you
I had a good laugh (in a good way) when you said you would make the exhaust quieter, rather than noisier. Hear hear! I agree wholeheartedly. I was a weirdo as a young bloke. Even then, I wanted the inside of my car to be quiet and smooth, didn't care too much about outside as a young bloke though.
I really like the honest approach you use to the comments on the products you choose to fit to your vehicles. Thanks,
There are two kinds of silicone sealant; neutral cure and acidic cure. Most common modern silicone sealants are neutral cure, and have no affect on metal finishes.
Let me guess your a plumber? This was exactly what I came here to do. Thanks for spreading the word.
Way more than 2 types, but us plumbers were taught to use acid cure on glass and tiles as it etches and bonds to these slick non-corrosive surfaces, and we used neutral cure on guttering, and whatever was handy for bogging up holes that let water in.
It’s so easy now, just use an auto or marine grade goo on vehicles, formulated to handle continuous vibration - the sort of stuff that is holding your windscreen onto your vehicle right now. Sika make so many types and you can get them on the shelf at hardware or auto stores, the package tells you what they are for.
There are high temp goos that hold the glass onto the door of your oven, and fire resistant, and marine grade, and some cure hard for sanding and some retain flexibility for expansion/contraction/vibration.
So just putting this out there be aware. Received my sandy taupe 2021 troopy 4 months ago and was told by CMI Toyota Adelaide putting a oil catch can will void your warranty also changing to a different exhaust such as larger exhaust will also void your warranty chipping remapping voids your warranty. Fitting a secondary fuel filter is OK as long it is installed by a qualified diesel mechanic. All cosmetic work such as bar work, spotlights, winch is fine. Best to check before doing the work as you don't want to to lose your warranty on a $80,000 vehicle.
Loving this Troopy build series. Looking forward to the next one. 👍
Great series, a video talking about the potential for and challenges of an electric overlander would be interesting
@@officialWWM Just set up camp for a month and wait for the solar panels to charge you up then you're good for the next day lol
Hi Andrew,
You are so practical , I really like that and sensible. Others want to chip, map , install big exhausts.
Andrew, did you consider mounting the 2nd fuel filter next to the factory filter considering there is a heap of space and no 2nd battery going in there. I put mine there and you don't have 2 long hoses crossing the engine bay and prolonging the bleeding process. Just needs a custom bracket as the aftermarket hasn't caught up with that option yet.
Like Phil G , I have my secondary filter set close to the factory unit, whilst originally it took the fuel first I have now set it after the Toyota original, this after taking to highly regarded diesel shop : might as well get some worth from the factory filter , have it catch the bigger stuff rather than replace it at service unsoiled, thanks for your videos, Phil H
Phil 14
I'd stop going to that diesel shop mate.
The aftermarket filter, filters the down to between 11-9 microns, the factory Toyota filter filters the fuel to 2 microns.
Having the second filter before the factory helps the factory filter last longer.
Having it after the factory filter dose nothing because the factory filter filters at a smaller micron then the aftermarket one.
The shop should know that
Btw your catch can is too small. Its meant for 100kw, you need the provent 200 which is larger, but is also better.
They 4.5 loves to breathe and the smaller one is a common cause of crankcase presssure issues.
Watch your insurance with these mods! If for instance the re-routed fuel line was to fail spraying diesel on the hot exhaust and causing an engine fire, your pretty well on your own! I can imagine the conversation with your insurance company, "Did you you modify the fuel system in this instance?" - "er yes" - " Sorry no can help with your claim".
Two things to note with catch can madness, 1: only those that sell them spruke the value of them with dubious claims and videos of oil captured saying this is bad (it is not generally bad and is well catered for in normal running).2: because of the dubious nature of catch cans there is no research around to test identical engines with/without one for many kms then doing a strip down to measure the difference, why no research I assert because it's likely a complete waste of time and it's a need assessed by an aftermarket industry to capture "money".
Probably far better to regularly service the engine and ensure intake system is not cracked and leaky. And finally if you do lots of stop start short cold start trips get engine serviced more regularly rather than rely on a catch can to catch some cool running vapours.
Agree
Peter Mills, I agree. I've had catch cans before and they do not keep the intake clean. The soot from the EGR still finds some oil that got past the catch can and still get black gunk in the intake. They are a waste of money. Need to block/disable the EGR to stop black gunk.
pro vent instructions are superb
You are great man🥰
It's nice when you've got something to reflect back on.
Thank YOU so much. Love you got another Land Cruiser! Cheers
thank you for share detail video
They are a awesome product the Terrain Tamer catch can, the only thing I think that lets them down are the tiny flimsy screws ( allen key x 4 ) that need to be undone to conduct a filter replacement.
Best guy in the business
Always good information, thank you.
Good to know I'm not the only person in Australia who would get a 70s series if it didn't have a V8. Heck if they made a cheaper version with a Hilux motor I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
I would be getting a after market air box.
I’m very fond of your philosophy. Thank you for sharing.
That is an awesome kit. I run a very primitive homemade kit on my 81’ Toyota pickup with a 22r gas engine, it’s amazing all the crud that get caught in there. Great vid!
Just purchased the Terrain Tamer airbox kit. Thanks for the advice.
DPF is only an issue on vehicles that stay within city/towns only, they never heat up correctly to burn the deposits, get a gasoline engine vehicle if you’re a city person or only use highways infrequently....
PS. Try using baby wipes (UK Name not sure) when cleaning/smoothing out sealant. Saves discoloured fingernails and the water/soap stops the sealant adhering to new surfaces as you smooth the surface. Bit late now, but thought I’d help out even though you don’t like Landrovers….
16:38 that's some serious low down shove right there, that will definitely spill the coffee all over the center console😁
There are so many things to learn from you! Thank you sir!!
With fuel issues lve found regularly adding a good fuel treatment every tank refill breaks down most contamination in fuel,breaks down water also to safely burn these safely, it really doesn't cost too much plus a good extra diesel system filter system l would add with the factory system, kind regards Roy
Love that blue . x
tfw just chillin for the next vid to drop
"I'd drive an electric 4wd in a hearbeat" - I can wait for the day when you build out a Rivian R1S in your typical Troopie conversion style. If only Tesla would do a wagon/SUV style version of the CT. It's boxiness would be perfect for a camping setup.
Thousands of pounds of batteries, Lots of different systems to keep them To not overheat. How do you recharge in the middle of the woods. I hope they can figure out solutions to those problems soon because I am really excited for electric off-road vehicles just like you
for that kind of comment is that God sends the pandemics
Yes and the wheight will prohibit you from going to quite a few places. Imagine getting the ev drowned at Nolans. An ev will just be a soft roader at this stage until technology can catch up with the terrain it will be used in.
Wheight kills over landing!
Lololololol...
The Cybertruck with the Cyberlandr camper will be better.
16:50 "I"m doing 90" laughs ...... love it :)
Could you please list the manufacturers and models you say that fit catch cans standard.
instead of chipping the motor have u considered a EVC throttle control u get the similar outputs to a chip and very cost effective
A hot tip with the air cleaner seal Andrew, load it up both sides with rubber grease for extra protection from dust ingress. The grease acts as a flexible barrier to stop the dust.
I got the Provent 200 for my 1GDFTV Hilux. You buy it in a kit with a bracket that allows for a double battery. But ask Western Filters, they will give you a stainless mounting bracket that will place it nicely where second battery would go, using factory threads... much easier to plumb, drain and avoid rubbing of pipes.
Found significant improvement on 2010 3L TD Hilux using Fuel Doctor additive. Impressed it assists in removing water from diesel. Looking forward to following build as I did with last 3 of yours. May be in a position to buy a new troopy in 2022, hopefully!
great stuff mate ciao
I love this channel!
Hello how r u sir ..... we learn from you sir alot ...... love from Pakistan
Thanks for that Andrew, you sold me on the catch can!!!!!
Utube catch cans, make sure you get right one for size/type of engine.
@@georgepengelly2434 cheers for that!! Will do
Very reasonable and useful mods, same stuff I did for my own diesel when I had one.
Those Milwaukee 12v ratchets are the most valuable tool in a shed. My uni chip in my vd troopy gave grief and issues . It ended up frying out. I would recommend don't chip it but remap it.
Lovely
Andrew, a couple of points to note if I may.........if your dream tourer build caught that volume of dirty oil vapours after just 14,000kms and I assume being a low mileage engine unit, let me tell you.......I think you may have had bigger problems! Regular maintenance and using correct OEM oils and filtration units is key to reliability. Also.....maybe consider revisiting the location of your second fuel filtration unit, the hose routing is way too long which will inevitability cause you system bleeding problems whilst you are on the road and you failed to comment on the microns in which it filters down too. A waste of money if it does not filter at least as low as the factory unit. Have you considered if this affects the fuel flow rate volume and pressure as this is often an oversight when fitting these after market filters as the fuel on modern common rail systems is imperative. Lastly, have you considered attaining access to the intank sender unit? Thus when you identify poor quality fuel, an avid overlander will feel this in the vehicle running/driving quality very quickly after the tank fill. The access will allow your to remove the fuel in full with ease before causing any major damage.
I’d only go with an electric car if they can do without lithium. Lithium mines, especially in Australia are so detrimental to the environment, even more so that exhaust fumes. Something to consider if you’re thinking it’ll be better for the environment
Learn so much from your videos, great help to me so I would like to say Thankyou.
Love your videos and look forward to everyone of them since the 1st one, I was totally mesmerised by it to the point I’ve just finished my tourer. It’s definitely not the typical tourer.
It’s a Triton🤫, with alloy canopy , lithium batteries with a redarc RedVision system and I LOVE IT!
Thanyou for giving me the passion to build it.😁
Great video Andrew. I fitted the catch can to my 1HD and it seems like the pressure out of the oil filler cap increased. And now oil is passing my rocker cover(which I will change soon.) Was wondering if you checked and it experienced an increase in the pressure passing your oil filler hole.
Agree 2 filters especially in Africa.
Another great video.
Well said 💯. I have a water watch and a provent 200 catch can. Looking for a airbox fix and you have given that to me. Thank you. Re dpf. I work with fleets including mining. Dpf in cruiser is a quality system and has no effect on performance compared to pre dpf looking at the stats. Exhaust for me? Yes. Reduced turbo temp, slight increase in power/delivery. Chip? No. Seen too many shit themselves. Thanks Andrew! Very enjoyable
Hi Andrew, you could also look at a PWR intercooler to give you some performance improvements, it’s a OME replacement part.
100 odd grand and you've still got to add stuff to it for longevity. Whats the world coming to.
Plus the cars worth 72k so calm down mark
good video mate, ta
G'day Andrew, Another good video mate, I always think to myself that after spending a considerable amount of hard earned cash that you end up
having to add-on components that you would expect any manufacturer worth their salt should have fitted as standard. One thing that I do consider
a poor/good example is Toyotas refusal to acknowledge the rear axel width in particular, Anyway Mate great help to all future diesel engine buyers.
Hi Andrew . Have you used the flashlube catch can on the v8 before ? I found I had a blowby issue with the flashlube on my 200 series. Replaced it with the larger provent unit and the problem went away . The provent is a larger unit with a bigger filter which would suggest better airflow. .
Cheers
Hi Andrew,
I have been thinking about fitting one of these to my landy (Hehe insert Leaky Landy joke here).
I have been back and forth debating the reasons you mentioned as well an cons.
MY point of view is:
Pros is it should keep the MAP sencer clean and reduce that EGR build up. My landy has had the EGR removed so no issues there.
Cons and to throw a cat amongst the pigeons, spanner in the gears. Surly a little oil on the turbo impel would be a benefit to not have it and the inter cooler just needs a tap to drain the condensed oil off. Inter cooler has far more surface area than the mesh/sponge/baffle or cyclone affect of a can?
Love to hear your opinion
Regards to all,
Paul
Was just wondering when the vid is dropping great timing
Totally agree regarding noisy vehicles. It seems like it’s the IN thing nowadays. 🙉
Andrew. I’ve been looking in to secondary filters for a while and finding it hard to find evidence that the factory filters aren’t sufficient to protect the engine. Googling it only results in everyone trying to sell you a second filter. Have you ever heard of the primary system actually failing to do it job protecting a modern engine? Not trying to start an argument. I’m genuinely trying to find the facts as I’m concerned about warranties. 5 years down the track, I’ll be happy to fit one…
Interested also on his reply. Toyotas come now with 7 years warranty here in Australia if serviced as per log book. Let's hope Andrew sees this.
Andrew is not saying that the original is not working - it did in his troopy- but to make sure it won't stop you if you happen to buy bad fuel; Apparently some people mix fuel up to make more profit- You don't want to end up in the middle of nowhere with a clogged up fuel filter; the second one is to make sure the original can do its work. Its making sure you keep driving! I don't think he would recommend it if you are only doing town miles.
Nothing wrong with just running the main filter. Just change the thing regularly
@@nicholaswirth1011 yeah. Bring spare on long trips is what I’m leaning too
I have a friend with well in excess of 400,000km on his v8 cruiser 79. Always gets it serviced well over its due date, never maintains it properly.
He hasnt put a spanner on that engine or any of its injectors and does not have any secondary filters installed.
Neutral cure silicon is not corrosive, although it shouldnt be used in fuel systems anyway and can also affect sensors. BTW, love your work :-)
17:00 damn the first troop carrier I drove couldn't get past 100km😂
Have you looked at safari engineering chips?
depends whether you want long term or short term reliability Andrew note you might be barred from entering certain with the dpf deployed within the vehicle due to fire hazard it can cause..
I have the same catch can, oil leaks everywhere out of the pressure valve.
Contamination mainly comes from the poor condition of some outback fuel station tanks :)
Urban myth.
Thoughts on the safari armax ecu? It seems it monitors a lot more variables than any other
Hi Andrew, quick question. I understand that this is the only heavy-duty 4x4 van available, but why is the rest of the 70 series so highly regarded? From you I have learned that the interior is shit, the audio is shit, the empty ride is rough, the rear axle is too skinny, the frame needs to be lengthened, the alternator is placed too low, and the airbox doesn't seal. And it's expensive. Watching the 4WD Action boys, they do break down. This doesn't sound like a car worthy of all of the lust it gets.
They’re poorly designed and engineered. But has a cult following, so it’s like selling ice to eskimos, people willl buy them no matter the cost. Debt can be paid at a later date, so the price isn’t an issue for most
solid axle...
@@RyanYoxo GXL Troopy has 3 factory cupholders. Get with the times!!
@@GR8Tmate Thanks for the reply. I suppose I look at it from a daily driver perspective as I have never crossed Africa or Australia nor will I. Here in the US people love to say I wish we got those here but I'm just thinking that something this tough isn't necessary.
@@GR8Tmate I hear ya. When Andrew was here in the states he made the same point about Australia being much more sparse. I think he was talking about the common lack of a shower rig on vehicles because we can just drive to civilization. And I drive a 4Runner (american fourtuner) with 190,000 miles, so I'm no hater. I guess my point is we Americans beg for the 70 series on the forums but I think many of them would be disappointed with it when they aren't using it to its full potential. I suppose I was a little harsh with my first comment, but when a vehicle is commonly cut in half and lengthened from the factory it got me thinking.
And yes, maybe one day I'll be wheeling a Toyota in some red dirt on the wrong side of the road, but for now I have Utah.
Those catch cans are to small need a provent 200 or equivalent at least with a bigger filter size and volume of airflow. V8 is to big for it especially if you get it tuned.
Sounds like beer napkin theory to me. I only do 200km a week with my 4.0L and that can easily fill the drain tube up. Fuel contamination in the oil shows just how much filtering work it can do because you've got a whole lot of extra vapour to pull out of the air.
@@jimtekkit that’s why most tuners disconnect the flash lube can before tuning because there not big enough. I’m sure most diesel tuners know what there doing.
Or no catch catch can at all ideally
100% correct. The provent catch cans are the only ones to use.
Perhaps if you are worried about a chip/remap, an option might simply be a throttle response controller, as you will find that a good portion of the performance feel from the previous unichip was the change in throttle response. I have a unichip (5 program) and am really happy with it, though am getting it reprogrammed back to just 3 engine maps but having the top one and lowest one duplicated with different throttle response.
I thought if a DPF was fitted to a vehicle in Australia, it was illegal to remove.
Unless in a limp mode emergency or on an "unregistered" vehicle.
@@GR8Tmate I was just confused that a respected motoring journalist spoke to us like it was an option. Maybe I’m wrong about the laws.
Thumps up for that electric overlander remark!
Makes me think what sort of videos these will be in 10 years when we will be modifying the electric overlanders. Can't really modify an electric motor to make it any more reliable! Can't imagine many trying to get more power out of them as they will already be insane from the factory. Probably more adding solar panels to charge during camping etc... Looking forward to when you start getting a chance to review these when they get to Australia. Rivian has just started delivering their vehicles in the USA!
Some yrs ago I had to change my rusted stock muffler to a new one and was recommended a model with "a notch more brooom" on my Jeep WJ (sorry, I have no idea what brand and model). With age - just as Andrew and most of us will face - my comfort level has become more "sensitive", and consequently I'm now seriously considering "downgrading" to stock again.
Andrew, loving the new build series (cant progress quickly enough), but one thing..... is that the Clifton Suspension bridge on the poster in the background? Im sat about 5 miles away from it now!
What’s your thought on installing an oil catch can on a modern diesel power plant??
Great if you want to void your warranty!
Hi Andrew, Thanks for the video. Regarding the chip. I have same car. Had Unichip and also remap. Had big reliability problems with Turbo surge and I do lots of remote work. Ended up removing both and replaced ECU. Now just run a EVC throttle controller and its all you need. Zippy around town and dumb it down for off-road. Just returned from Cape York and it was great on the tracks. Honestly wouldn't bother with Chips or remaps now I have used the throttle controller on its own. Thought I would let you know as you may think the same
I regularly see people fitting catch cans to their vehicles. Makes absolute sense from a longevity perspective. What I always wonder is why you wouldn't go with an Air Oil Separator (AOS) instead which returns the oil captured to the crank-case. AOS fitment for the same reason is very common in the Subaru community.
they also catch a fair bit of water out of the oil when the oil heats up , don't want that to go back in the crankcase
I don’t recon that’s accurate. Given the engine has an EGR system. would one rather some soot (abrasive) from the exhaust gasses get stuck in a light residue of oil in the intake, or the abrasive soot go through the cylinders as well as prematurely wearing out valve seats as it passes. From longevity standpoint it makes little sense unless the EGR injection is reduced or eliminated (which is not legal)…
@@connorsmith7531 wo what makes no sense - catch cans, Air Oil Separators or both of them?
A lot of Diesel Mechanics I talked to (here in Germany) reckon that both makes no sense but I see that a lot of Ozzies swear on it.
@@vomKuckucksfelsen in my opinion industry has convinced Australian market that they need them (catch cans). Especially the 4x4 market over here, it’s a constant barrage of what you ‘need to take care’ of your a modern Diesel engine. Makes people paranoid because parts are so expensive here.
@@connorsmith7531 I can see the Benefit of having a secondary fuell filter but I never understood why you´d need a catch can....
Petrol (gasoline) engines seem to make a lot more sense, after seeing this.
In some ways they do, some they do not. If you want economy and range, then they do not.
when are we going to get to see the new bull bar you raved about?
That looks like a Mann Provent 200?
In all my research, I keep coming back to that one over and over again based on the material used to catch the oil particulates as well as the blow off valve in the event something goes wrong(you don't want to blow up your engine).
Actually never mind, I am a newb and should of kept watching the video lol.
That still looks like a nice catch can though!
Please consider throttle controllers and let us know your take on them.
What about the Safari Amax chip
Good one mate . And on top of that your a bloody top bloke and we could possibly be great mates . When your finished with your troopy can I have it . 😀
Andrew, from your experience, do you need a catch-can on an NA unleaded petrol 4WD? I've done many searches, but all points to diesel engines only. Even the catch-can kits you can buy are always for the diesel version of 4WDs. I have a 1996 4.5L petrol 80 Series GXL. Would you put one on it?
No. The unburnt vapour in a petrol engine isn't oil-based, so does not contaminate the intercooler in the same way.
@@4xoverland Thanks Andrew. Loving the Troopy build series BTW. I look forward to each episodes. And also interested to see videos of the RR Classic resto-mod, when that's underway. 👍
4xoverland Andrew the catch can is mostly collecting engine oil from piston blow-by, the fuel type is irrelevant. All turbo engines petrol and diesel can benefit from fitting one.
If your factory engine set-up is anything like mine (1998 100 Series GXL 1HZ) then it won't have an emissions reducing EGR system from factory, so any benefit of a catch-can is significantly reduced. Toyota didn't fit EGR system on my model until 2002.
Super informative salient advice…I yearn for the rig on your TShirt…just saying.
"I'd drive an electric 4wd in a hearbeat"
I’ve read an article in the abc, Toyota have been testing 79series electric version in the mines in Oz. You might get your wish. Mmm in the outback? Charging stations?
You just need lot of solar panels.
@@krichd1 probably most of the body covered in them to be able to do long stretches
Any kind of travel with any kind of machine relies on infrastructure to support it. One day it will be sufficient to support electric long distance driving. But until it is, we must rely on the internal combustion engine infrastructure.
@@4weeksleave there is nowhere near enough surface area for such a heavy vehicle. for 20 years Australia has hosted a global solar only drive from darwin to adelaide, corona has hampered it but its very interesting.
@@andrewb5887 very true, but with advances in solar panel technology, batteries, charging infrastructure and a support network as Andrew commented above it will be possible one day.
Will you be changing the snorkel?
Owning a 76 2 door Range Rover myself I would love to buy the t shirt with the Classic 2 door pictured that you often wear however appears not to be a stock item?
Thoughts on DPChip?
DPChip is the way to go, don't buy plug and play though, make sure that your vehicle is dyno tuned and the chip tuned to your specific vehicle and then you will have maximum efficiency , reliability and longevity from your engine. Avoid the tuners that deliver huge torque settings by remapping your ECU, most are from overfueling and will eventually destroy your engine.
An electric lift pump should be on agenda imo
Any experience with the DP Chip from Berrima Diesel?
What’s your opinion on bypass oil filtration?
Also removing DPF’s is illegal in Australia with massive fines if caught.
Only if you get caught
@@trent4439 Try and get a road worthy without it fitted.
Donnot remove the dpf, you don't have issues with poor quality diesel. If you were in Africa yes I would say go euro 2/3 but there you have higher quality fuel and better emissions.
Better intercooler, better hoses and a stage 1 or 2 remap and you will be fine.
I was recently told by my Toyota Australia dealer that installing a catch an to my 2019 LC200 would void warranty??
would make a catch can and an additional fuel filter also sense for petrol engines ?
Petrol engines do not need a catch-can.
Yes, definitely put a catch can on a petrol engine. Makes as much sense as putting one on a diesel ie none at all!
11:00 when ASPW pretends that manufacturers don’t stay in business by charging people for repairs.
Thanks for those honest words at the end. Hopefully Toyota will bring out an electric large 4WD soon!