Isn't this just a convoluted method of the rule of thirds? total height 155 cm/1.618 golden ratio= 95.797 cm leg length. 95.797 cm leg length/155 cm total height = leg ratio is 0.618 ~ leg ratio is 2/3 of the fit
I would say that many of the left examples are totally fine, despite this golden ratio. The right ones feel too short for me. It also depends on your body type. If you have a wide body like me, a short jacket doesn't look that good. Been there, done that.
As mentioned after explaining about the golden ratio, there are times when it’s better not to follow it. This is to help teach about proportions. You have to do and wear what you like on you at the end of the day
I also disagree with you that wide body types can’t wear shorter jackets. You just need to find the right proportions in the bottom part of the outfit to balance it out.
@@HarryHas I don't mean that it doesn't work for anyone with a wide body. But for me it usually doesn't work. The suggestions on the right side of the video would look very weird on me. I don't think longer jackets (several ones you've showed on the left side) look bad at all. But that's just my personal opinion.
The rule of thirds is something I’ve kinda been obsessed with recently. It’s such an established thing in women’s fashion but way less common in men’s. I don’t have many cropped jackets, really I only have one. But I often create this aesthetic by tucking in the layer underneath. When you think about it, that way you actually have three interesting thirds if your jacket is a bit longer than the tuck.
Yeah the look is nice, but such a cropped jacket is objectively worse at a jackets main job: Keeping your Torso warm. It's functional to have a jacket longer than the golden ratio or a third, that's why the vast majority of jackets sold don't adhere to it.
This is what I was missing! This was my problem for my fitting, the awkwardness of long jackets make look too short and disproportionate. This golden ratio was it! Thank you so much for the informational video!
You can also make a visual cue if you wanna wear a jacket that's too long, by tucking in your inner garments into your pants right at the golden ratio point, and unzipping your jacket. It'll create a more flowy look, but still abide by the golden ratio rule, so you won't look disproportionate.
Same struggle, i like clothes those aren’t too long but I’m only 5’6 and it’s hard to find cropped jacket in men size, maybe i should go with women size idk
This golden ratio measurement guide is a one-time thing we need to do for a lifetime fashion guide. Absolutely cool. Thank you, Harry. All the best, mate!
Such a great video! Absolutely love the level of proper detail with the golden ratio, as opposed to some creators who just say "ooo proportions" and then dont explain any further. You can also use this rule to figure out how long an overcoat should ideally be, you just flip a and b around. And ofc, you don't always have to hit the golden ratio exactly - thats going to be the most pleasing fit and the best place to start, but you can still go a little shorter or longer to create different effects!
This channel has slowly become my favorite fashion channel on TH-cam -- you've gotten so natural at delivering in these videos. Really really impressive and they're always helpful. Keep it up
Now this is something I can understand. Very cool that my style can be broken down and improved using the golden ratio. I will be going through my closet this week.
Absolutely love the detail you go into with this brother - I'll be using this method for sure!!! P.S, I agree, ML aint much of a looker haha 👀! Great work man!
Nice explanation. This doesn't apply to suit and sport jackets, they are way longer, but the bottom button and pockets usually sits around that golden ratio line on the well tailored jackets with a classic cut.
Well, in truth you should really consider that the whole point of tailored jackets (in this specific aspect) is creating a line at the height of your *natural waist* . Not by directly ending the jacket there, but through the buttoning point (i.e. top/middle button, not the bottom button!) and (if single breasted like most are these days) opening quarters after it. This allows you to show an elongated leg line in the front (if wearing high rise trousers) while in the back hiding the point where your leg actually ends so they appear to be longer. This is also why the popular trend for super short "tailored" jackets that end mid-backside is so stupid: at that point you are better of going for a cropped jacket like he shows in the video, since that particular effect is ruined and you need another way to lengthen your leg line. The same goes for low rise trousers in suits, except that in that case the effect is ruined in the front instead, by interrupting the leg line way too early. Ofc this holds for traditional sartorial jackets, not necessarily for the various deconstructions or reimaginations by fashion designers which often have totally different goals in mind, possible even against this original idea of lengthening the leg line, and often just do extreme stuff for shock value tbh. By the way, the natural waist is probably higher on your body than the golden ratio though (or maybe it's actually about the golden ratio if you consider your full height including the head?).
@@erwanherve5494 I did. Did you read mine? Because the whole point was that jackets mean to create another line at the buttoning point (not the bottom button).
I really liked how you explained this. Ive seen this before but never really understood as well as i do now. Defo gonna be applying this with all my fits and jus play around w the golden ratio. Thank you Harry and hope you have a good rest of your week.
I think the way you speak is almost like a golden ratio as well as you elongate the ending of every sentence like pants do. The first sentence you're like, urprobherefor1of3 reeeeeeeeeeasons
Wow, I am astonished at how you explained this topic about the ratio and fit of jackets. It is so true!!!! I randomly clicked this vid, but this is actually quality, educational, and very helpful content. I am so thankful that you shared this!!! (P.S. you just shared the secret of jackets :(
6:36 I honestly think the left one looks better in this case, In most cases it is indeed right, for example the next 6:40 the puffer jackets just hit so much better with the "golden ratio". But honestly in some cases I can imagine a longer jacket: 5:54 looks nice to me
Yeah the look can be nice, but such a cropped jacket is objectively worse at a jackets main job: Keeping your Torso warm. It's functional to have a jacket longer than the golden ratio or a third, that's why the vast majority of jackets sold don't adhere to it.
@@m.m4982 the trucker jacket has been revisited by different designers who have different takes on what the length should look like. Just because something isn't traditional doesn't mean it's wrong
Hello, Harry. I appreciate the video. I agree with the golden ratio or similar proportion principles; typically, it works if one's bottom section of the body is longer (or equal) to the upper part of the body. What about those with a larger upper body? How do they keep this 1/3 rule?
That’s why you measure from your feet to your shoulder. Your golden ratio point will give off the illusion that your legs are longer and your torso is shorter.
Interesting video. I get that the video is to teach about proportions but it focuses a bit much on the length of the jacket... limiting our choices severely. Perhaps the next iteration of the video can show viewers how to make longer jackets look good? Like picking longer jackets that have strategically placed pockets or belts at the golden ratio line that help make the outfit look flattering
@@HarryHas Yes, but you gave one example, which was tucking in the shirt. Which, while effective, isn't always a good option. Other than tucking in the shirt, what other tricks do we have at our disposal. While shopping for a longer jacket, what details should one look for that help accentuate the golden ratio (for example Asket has a long coat, with pockets placed around the hip/waist that simulate the golden ratio. It would be cool to see you feature other longer coats offer something similar) All in all, this is a great video as always. I feel like I'm coming across as a combative entitled twat and that isn't my intention. I'm just offering up an idea for what I'd like to see in a future video. Cheers.
I think with long jackets you either gotta go short or long. Doing the weird in between just doesn’t work imo. It’s like what he said is it a trenchcoat or a jacket.
Your application of the golden ratio to fashion is an interesting approach. I would love to know what length of jackets are going to look best before I buy them, much like the way I know what pant length I should go for. My only concern is that the calculation is focused on the ratio itself, and only takes the wearer's height into account (minus the head of course). What about the rest of the body - their torso, waist, hips, legs, etc? For someone like myself who just naturally has longer legs, I often find that a longer top helps my proportions by covering up some of that length. I find it hard to believe that everyone will look good in these 'golden ratio outfits' since no two bodies are quite the same. I think the thought behind this is great, though the process maybe needs some tweaking before I would consider using it.
If you have unusually long legs then the golden ratio would actually dictate you use longer tops. Its not telling you that your outfits have to end at your hips. Cmon its simple math don't over complicate it 😅
@@m.m4982 I'm not saying that there's a problem with the math, but there is with the execution. You can't just apply a universal equation without checking whether there needs to be modifications - people are just built different. If anything you run the risk of under complicating it. For example, you say that for someone with longer legs the ratio "would actually dictate you use longer tops" - well yes, but only if I'm also taller in general (remember, the use of the ratio here only considers my feet to my shoulders, no consideration for how long my legs are)!
@michaelbarrett7912 you say you wear longer shirts because of your unusual long legs. The golden ratio would dictate the same exact thing. And no, not only if your taller.
@@m.m4982 I think there's a misunderstanding here. As a person with longer legs, the golden ratio would say to wear slightly longer tops, based on my height. If I had a longer torso but was still the same height, the ratio would not change (unless we factor in my body proportions).
When it comes to buying a jacket, i try them on in the store . What you are saying is good. Sometimes I might buy a jacket on the larger side especially when I'm going to be wearing winter knits underneath.
Nice Harry, you've done really well to condense all this info and explain it in a single video. Top job as always! Also I'm totally insulted by the video title, how dare you!!!
Hahaha thanks a lot man. As you know, it’s definitely difficult to try and cover as much information as possible to help as many people without making things too confusing.
This is the best video I've seen from your channel! I absolutely loved the presentation and all the extra details, like making the models the same height, choosing differently styled models, and even adding the black line representing the golden ratio! This video was extremely well done! By the way, although I like this golden ration idea(from now on I'll call it the rule of thirds), I think we're all sleeping on the 50/50 proportions. Maybe this is a little delusional, but I find that the 50/50 split accentuates your upper body, making you appear a bit more intimidating, even more masculine. Think of all of those ridiculous cartoon characters with tiny legs and a big torso. Or the types of gangsters who wear oversized clothing. This is just a hypothesis, but I think 50/50 proportions would work well with the workwear or gorpcore style because it accentuates toughness.
I agree a lot of people wear mostly 50/50 and it doens’t look bad. But the rule of thirds is something that elevates your appearance and imo could work for everybody. It makes you appear taller and makes your torso and chest pop out. I have a lot of clothes that i like and until like last year i couldn’t understand why something seemed off and i wasn’t completely happy with how they looked on me and it was because i didn’t really understand proportions. Personally, I feel a lot more confident when i have an outfit that hits the golden ration.
But what are the jackets called on the right because the ones in right, the jacket ends in waist line but on the left the jacket and the sleeve match together.
thanks for the tip and the disclaimer at the end, if it looks good it looks good, doesnt matter if it applies to some rule unless youre some fashion model or something
My problem is that all my t shirts go further down than my belt line. And some of my smarter jackets are shorter than my T shirt length. I don’t like tucking them in either unless it’s a smart shirt. Problems with having longer legs and shorter body. Is it still acceptable to have a t shirt lower than a jacket or overshirt ?
I bought a olive denim jacket 2 years back and I still haven't worn it outside cuz I can only wear it in winters in my country... On hot days it's a big no
Really interesting concept, that I think it a good rule of thumb for those jackets that hang around the waistline, think if it is intentionally a longer coat, like a car coat or an overcoat, then they have a different set of rules, but this proportioning for “regular” length jackets, this is a very good rule to use 👍
I had the priblem with Alpha Indysties bomber jacket. Im 180 cm and ordered M size. In the mirror I see perfect fit, buuut it is really too short when I do any moves
I rarely wear jackets in Florida, but I'd like a nice leather jacket. I wouldn't spend a fortune either and I'd definitely consider second hand because I like the more worn in look and it's more sustainable.
I am short so all my jackets look like on the left pictures and for a long time I couldnt discover why it look wrong. I saw one of your older videos that you talk about proportion and I finally learned about it. I agree with most photos but I think the denim jacket at 6:32 look a bit too short on the right guy. Puffer jacket also look better when longer because they already oversized.
I like a longer puffer sometimes too. What I should have said for that one was that the sweater underneath would have been better a little shorter. Thanks for watching
I get the point and you are right it is ecstatically pleasing but during winter I want my butt to stay covered if I can 😂 Golden ratio is great for 3 seasons that s not bad at all
Was recommended your beanie video. I also came to the same conclusions several years ago. Its funny because no one would ever expect something as simple as a beanie would matter, but it does. And with that something ive concluded in general is “every detail matters”. But anyways, interesting channel with a kind of funny strange quirky British personality. ✌🏻
The golden ratio is usually between the belt line and mid - fly. Simply wear jackets that are better proportioned, for someone skinny and short like me, oversized clothing will particularly look bad on me. Always my jackets are cut shorter for that reason, whether they are leather or denim pieces
Im 6ft 3 with a slim frame & longer than average legs, therefore most jackets look ok unless too short where they make my legs look like stilts. However trenchcoats, winter coats & suit coats are all designed to be long & still look good.
Great video Harry I’m just a bit curious about other types of garments like knitted sweaters especially those oversized ones. How do you dress them with the golden ratio?
Hey Harry! Good day to you. Quick questions: 1. Do you also apply this to your tops (shirts, t-shirts, etc.)? 2. Should I measure with shoes on or off? Cause different shoes give different extra heights. Thank you!
Love this video, great advice and nice style bro, just one question I do a lot of shopping online, some places don’t tell you the height of a jacket, but only in small, medium etc, is there a way around this? I suppose if the jacket comes abit over the line point (mines 93) then I could break it by showing my under-layer on the line point right?
I have a long torso, so this makes it difficult. I'm 21, so my spine keeps growing, but my legs aren't. Now I'm 6ft tall, but I've been wearing the same length pants since I was 5'9
I'm like 5'9 in shoes, my waist measurement is like 32" and my hip measurement is 40". (81cm and 101cm) Hoodies/short jackets that would usually sit well on somebody my height end up bunched up at my hips and give me a fabric belly so I've found I either gotta wear jackets that well outsize me so they can sit past my cheeks or are really small and sit at my waist all day long.
Hi there ! The rule of thirds is such a brilliant, it works great, but i got a question: what can i do if most of my hoodies, t-shirts etc. are too long to follow the rule, and i still got two 1/2 parts. Is there any brands or companies that makes shorter hoodies, t-shirts and jackets so i can achieve the rule. P.S. You do a great job with your videos they are super helpful, hope you will see my comment, it would really help, i would be very greatful. Thanks!
This make a lot of sense to me, I'm 150 cm tall, and almost all of my jackets are cropped, but doesn't feel cropped enough nor long enough to fit my height.
I did this since one year or so (it begins with my North Face Nuptse I think) but I don't even heard about the golden ratio or made any thoughts about this style to wear clothes. :)
I'm just sad some of my jackets now look oversized on me or lost their silhouette as my body changed. Sometimes i think my essentials oversized puffer jacket looks ridiculous on me but it's my most complimented, my other bombers and leather jacket sometimes look too long for me, i always tuck my tshirt or bottom size my jacket so my hoodie fits into the golden ratio.
There is no right or wrong in fashion. This is just the way I like to do things. Thanks for watching. 🤟
Isn't this just a convoluted method of the rule of thirds? total height 155 cm/1.618 golden ratio= 95.797 cm leg length. 95.797 cm leg length/155 cm total height = leg ratio is 0.618 ~ leg ratio is 2/3 of the fit
Not on topic but that bomber is A1
@@alexjanko2741 He's just explaining the technical reasoning behind it, but yes essentially it is just the rule of thirds
Bro just get straight into the video then at the end remind people to like, share and subscribe
@@a4y3n just click it forward mate
Hands-down (personally) best fashion/style youtuber.
No BS just entertaining, informative videos, what can you ask for more?
Really appreciate it dude. Thank you
I would say that many of the left examples are totally fine, despite this golden ratio. The right ones feel too short for me. It also depends on your body type. If you have a wide body like me, a short jacket doesn't look that good. Been there, done that.
As mentioned after explaining about the golden ratio, there are times when it’s better not to follow it. This is to help teach about proportions. You have to do and wear what you like on you at the end of the day
I also disagree with you that wide body types can’t wear shorter jackets. You just need to find the right proportions in the bottom part of the outfit to balance it out.
@@HarryHas I don't mean that it doesn't work for anyone with a wide body. But for me it usually doesn't work. The suggestions on the right side of the video would look very weird on me. I don't think longer jackets (several ones you've showed on the left side) look bad at all. But that's just my personal opinion.
@@markuserikssen gotcha. That’s fair enough mate. Gotta do what works best for you 👍
@@HarryHas Your videos are great btw! It doesn't always work for me, but that's normal.
The rule of thirds is something I’ve kinda been obsessed with recently. It’s such an established thing in women’s fashion but way less common in men’s. I don’t have many cropped jackets, really I only have one. But I often create this aesthetic by tucking in the layer underneath. When you think about it, that way you actually have three interesting thirds if your jacket is a bit longer than the tuck.
Yeah the look is nice, but such a cropped jacket is objectively worse at a jackets main job:
Keeping your Torso warm.
It's functional to have a jacket longer than the golden ratio or a third, that's why the vast majority of jackets sold don't adhere to it.
This is what I was missing! This was my problem for my fitting, the awkwardness of long jackets make look too short and disproportionate. This golden ratio was it! Thank you so much for the informational video!
You can also make a visual cue if you wanna wear a jacket that's too long, by tucking in your inner garments into your pants right at the golden ratio point, and unzipping your jacket. It'll create a more flowy look, but still abide by the golden ratio rule, so you won't look disproportionate.
I'm 5'7 with a 42"-43" chest. This explains the pain I have in finding good jackets and clothes in general. Good stuff
Same struggle, i like clothes those aren’t too long but I’m only 5’6 and it’s hard to find cropped jacket in men size, maybe i should go with women size idk
This golden ratio measurement guide is a one-time thing we need to do for a lifetime fashion guide. Absolutely cool. Thank you, Harry. All the best, mate!
Such a great video! Absolutely love the level of proper detail with the golden ratio, as opposed to some creators who just say "ooo proportions" and then dont explain any further.
You can also use this rule to figure out how long an overcoat should ideally be, you just flip a and b around.
And ofc, you don't always have to hit the golden ratio exactly - thats going to be the most pleasing fit and the best place to start, but you can still go a little shorter or longer to create different effects!
Yes exactly right. The ratio works flipped around too. I didn’t want to make things too confusing. Thanks a lot
This channel has slowly become my favorite fashion channel on TH-cam -- you've gotten so natural at delivering in these videos. Really really impressive and they're always helpful. Keep it up
Appreciate it dude. Thank you very much
Now this is something I can understand. Very cool that my style can be broken down and improved using the golden ratio. I will be going through my closet this week.
Sounds good man. Glad I could help
Reason 4:
I watch literally everything you post!
Legend
Absolutely love the detail you go into with this brother - I'll be using this method for sure!!! P.S, I agree, ML aint much of a looker haha 👀! Great work man!
Hahaha thank you mate
Nice explanation. This doesn't apply to suit and sport jackets, they are way longer, but the bottom button and pockets usually sits around that golden ratio line on the well tailored jackets with a classic cut.
Well, in truth you should really consider that the whole point of tailored jackets (in this specific aspect) is creating a line at the height of your *natural waist* . Not by directly ending the jacket there, but through the buttoning point (i.e. top/middle button, not the bottom button!) and (if single breasted like most are these days) opening quarters after it. This allows you to show an elongated leg line in the front (if wearing high rise trousers) while in the back hiding the point where your leg actually ends so they appear to be longer. This is also why the popular trend for super short "tailored" jackets that end mid-backside is so stupid: at that point you are better of going for a cropped jacket like he shows in the video, since that particular effect is ruined and you need another way to lengthen your leg line. The same goes for low rise trousers in suits, except that in that case the effect is ruined in the front instead, by interrupting the leg line way too early.
Ofc this holds for traditional sartorial jackets, not necessarily for the various deconstructions or reimaginations by fashion designers which often have totally different goals in mind, possible even against this original idea of lengthening the leg line, and often just do extreme stuff for shock value tbh.
By the way, the natural waist is probably higher on your body than the golden ratio though (or maybe it's actually about the golden ratio if you consider your full height including the head?).
@@36424567254 Did you read my comment before writing me an essay ?
@@erwanherve5494 I did. Did you read mine? Because the whole point was that jackets mean to create another line at the buttoning point (not the bottom button).
@@36424567254 whatever, I don't have time for that
How are your vibes always these happy & positive? You should be teaching that alongside of how to style thyself
Hahaha I’m not always happy but I like making vids
Hahah for real
One thing I struggle is that most clothing you find at more affordable price point are always too long for men below 180cm.
For t shirts I always find something nice in the sleeve and shoulders and then hem them
I really liked how you explained this. Ive seen this before but never really understood as well as i do now. Defo gonna be applying this with all my fits and jus play around w the golden ratio. Thank you Harry and hope you have a good rest of your week.
Great to hear bro. Thanks a lot. Have a good one yourself
I think the way you speak is almost like a golden ratio as well as you elongate the ending of every sentence like pants do.
The first sentence you're like, urprobherefor1of3 reeeeeeeeeeasons
Thank you
What's the jacket at the 6:55 mark on the right-hand side? That joint was dope.
This is 100% absolute valuable content. Proportion is everything!
Wow, I am astonished at how you explained this topic about the ratio and fit of jackets. It is so true!!!! I randomly clicked this vid, but this is actually quality, educational, and very helpful content. I am so thankful that you shared this!!! (P.S. you just shared the secret of jackets :(
Pleased to hear mate. Thanks for watching
6:36 I honestly think the left one looks better in this case,
In most cases it is indeed right, for example the next 6:40 the puffer jackets just hit so much better with the "golden ratio".
But honestly in some cases I can imagine a longer jacket: 5:54 looks nice to me
Yeah the look can be nice, but such a cropped jacket is objectively worse at a jackets main job:
Keeping your Torso warm.
It's functional to have a jacket longer than the golden ratio or a third, that's why the vast majority of jackets sold don't adhere to it.
Agree, right looks kinda gay
Trucker jackets are supposed to hit at the belt line. Long ones look like the wearer doesnt know what theyre doing.
@@m.m4982 the trucker jacket has been revisited by different designers who have different takes on what the length should look like. Just because something isn't traditional doesn't mean it's wrong
Hello, Harry. I appreciate the video.
I agree with the golden ratio or similar proportion principles; typically, it works if one's bottom section of the body is longer (or equal) to the upper part of the body.
What about those with a larger upper body? How do they keep this 1/3 rule?
That’s why you measure from your feet to your shoulder. Your golden ratio point will give off the illusion that your legs are longer and your torso is shorter.
I'M Really impressed with how good was this explanation. Congratulations👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I REALLY LOVE THIS TYPE OF VIDEO
THANK YOU SO MUCH. The one with pants the helped me out so much, now I wear them correctly
Interesting video. I get that the video is to teach about proportions but it focuses a bit much on the length of the jacket... limiting our choices severely.
Perhaps the next iteration of the video can show viewers how to make longer jackets look good? Like picking longer jackets that have strategically placed pockets or belts at the golden ratio line that help make the outfit look flattering
Thanks. I did say about how to make longer jackets look good in this video 👍
@@HarryHas Yes, but you gave one example, which was tucking in the shirt. Which, while effective, isn't always a good option. Other than tucking in the shirt, what other tricks do we have at our disposal. While shopping for a longer jacket, what details should one look for that help accentuate the golden ratio (for example Asket has a long coat, with pockets placed around the hip/waist that simulate the golden ratio. It would be cool to see you feature other longer coats offer something similar)
All in all, this is a great video as always. I feel like I'm coming across as a combative entitled twat and that isn't my intention. I'm just offering up an idea for what I'd like to see in a future video. Cheers.
I think with long jackets you either gotta go short or long. Doing the weird in between just doesn’t work imo. It’s like what he said is it a trenchcoat or a jacket.
Looks pretty awesome. Learned about it in school a bit, but that you could use it to pick jacket sizes better...
Your application of the golden ratio to fashion is an interesting approach. I would love to know what length of jackets are going to look best before I buy them, much like the way I know what pant length I should go for.
My only concern is that the calculation is focused on the ratio itself, and only takes the wearer's height into account (minus the head of course). What about the rest of the body - their torso, waist, hips, legs, etc? For someone like myself who just naturally has longer legs, I often find that a longer top helps my proportions by covering up some of that length. I find it hard to believe that everyone will look good in these 'golden ratio outfits' since no two bodies are quite the same.
I think the thought behind this is great, though the process maybe needs some tweaking before I would consider using it.
If you have unusually long legs then the golden ratio would actually dictate you use longer tops. Its not telling you that your outfits have to end at your hips. Cmon its simple math don't over complicate it 😅
@@m.m4982 I'm not saying that there's a problem with the math, but there is with the execution. You can't just apply a universal equation without checking whether there needs to be modifications - people are just built different. If anything you run the risk of under complicating it. For example, you say that for someone with longer legs the ratio "would actually dictate you use longer tops" - well yes, but only if I'm also taller in general (remember, the use of the ratio here only considers my feet to my shoulders, no consideration for how long my legs are)!
@michaelbarrett7912 you say you wear longer shirts because of your unusual long legs. The golden ratio would dictate the same exact thing. And no, not only if your taller.
@@m.m4982 I think there's a misunderstanding here. As a person with longer legs, the golden ratio would say to wear slightly longer tops, based on my height. If I had a longer torso but was still the same height, the ratio would not change (unless we factor in my body proportions).
@michaelbarrett7912 if long torso,the ratio would say to limit the length of your shirts to do your best to lengthen how your legs look
How do you calculate it in reverse?
I mean for long coats, what should be the length for it to look good?
When it comes to buying a jacket, i try them on in the store . What you are saying is good. Sometimes I might buy a jacket on the larger side especially when I'm going to be wearing winter knits underneath.
What about belly? Should I apply GR as well?
Nice Harry, you've done really well to condense all this info and explain it in a single video. Top job as always! Also I'm totally insulted by the video title, how dare you!!!
Hahaha thanks a lot man. As you know, it’s definitely difficult to try and cover as much information as possible to help as many people without making things too confusing.
This is the best video I've seen from your channel! I absolutely loved the presentation and all the extra details, like making the models the same height, choosing differently styled models, and even adding the black line representing the golden ratio! This video was extremely well done!
By the way, although I like this golden ration idea(from now on I'll call it the rule of thirds), I think we're all sleeping on the 50/50 proportions. Maybe this is a little delusional, but I find that the 50/50 split accentuates your upper body, making you appear a bit more intimidating, even more masculine. Think of all of those ridiculous cartoon characters with tiny legs and a big torso. Or the types of gangsters who wear oversized clothing. This is just a hypothesis, but I think 50/50 proportions would work well with the workwear or gorpcore style because it accentuates toughness.
Thank you very much
I agree a lot of people wear mostly 50/50 and it doens’t look bad. But the rule of thirds is something that elevates your appearance and imo could work for everybody. It makes you appear taller and makes your torso and chest pop out.
I have a lot of clothes that i like and until like last year i couldn’t understand why something seemed off and i wasn’t completely happy with how they looked on me and it was because i didn’t really understand proportions. Personally, I feel a lot more confident when i have an outfit that hits the golden ration.
@@HarryHas great vid, buddy. I think this can really help people feel more confident with their style and overall look.
But what are the jackets called on the right because the ones in right, the jacket ends in waist line but on the left the jacket and the sleeve match together.
Reason 4 - I just love watching your videos
Really appreciate that. Thank you
thanks for the tip and the disclaimer at the end, if it looks good it looks good, doesnt matter if it applies to some rule unless youre some fashion model or something
Glad you liked it bro
You've influenced my style Harry, I'm getting better hopefully !
Glad to hear man 🙏
@@HarryHas can we see some sneakers or colour composition kind of videos soon ? And thanks for the reply man
My problem is that all my t shirts go further down than my belt line. And some of my smarter jackets are shorter than my T shirt length. I don’t like tucking them in either unless it’s a smart shirt. Problems with having longer legs and shorter body. Is it still acceptable to have a t shirt lower than a jacket or overshirt ?
Finding a good fitting clothes is highly important in my opinion and the golden ration helps accomplish such a task.
The golden ratio really helped me… Glad i found this video before returning my jacket
This video is everything !!!
So its like 1/3 top and 2/3 bottom or vice versa if you want different cuts
I bought a olive denim jacket 2 years back and I still haven't worn it outside cuz I can only wear it in winters in my country...
On hot days it's a big no
The problem is many store bought jackets are too long for a short person like me and tailoring every outfit is expensive :(
just get them stitched from the bottom
I love these type of videos, they help you understand good silouhette regardless of personal style.
Glad to hear mate
Really interesting concept, that I think it a good rule of thumb for those jackets that hang around the waistline, think if it is intentionally a longer coat, like a car coat or an overcoat, then they have a different set of rules, but this proportioning for “regular” length jackets, this is a very good rule to use 👍
Nice video. Could u please make a video on whether to crop pants or not for short guys? ❤
I had the priblem with Alpha Indysties bomber jacket. Im 180 cm and ordered M size. In the mirror I see perfect fit, buuut it is really too short when I do any moves
I rarely wear jackets in Florida, but I'd like a nice leather jacket. I wouldn't spend a fortune either and I'd definitely consider second hand because I like the more worn in look and it's more sustainable.
What about t shirt? can i apply this golden ratio on them too cuz I'm really struggling on t shirts
Where's the leather jacket from on the right in 4:33?
Hi!
And how to dress someone with long legs?
The line of the jacket should be how much lower than the gold line?
Reason 4: always support Harry :P
i usally have big t shirts and shirts (not even oversized style) i guess i gotta tuck in all the time now haha.
Can you make a video about ratio for outfits with shorts plsss
would you do this the same way with shirts?
What’s the name of the puffer jacket on the right at the end of the video
I am short so all my jackets look like on the left pictures and for a long time I couldnt discover why it look wrong. I saw one of your older videos that you talk about proportion and I finally learned about it. I agree with most photos but I think the denim jacket at 6:32 look a bit too short on the right guy. Puffer jacket also look better when longer because they already oversized.
I like a longer puffer sometimes too. What I should have said for that one was that the sweater underneath would have been better a little shorter. Thanks for watching
Great point, Harry!
Never used this method but I understand where my jacket should end.I must admit you are a genius. GOOD 👍
Appreciate it mate. There is no wrong or right way to do things but it’s always good to think about outfit proportions
I get the point and you are right it is ecstatically pleasing but during winter I want my butt to stay covered if I can 😂
Golden ratio is great for 3 seasons that s not bad at all
There are always coats for the winter 👍
Every outfit on the right looks much better than the one on the left and i’m sure most people would agree. Great video Harry.
Thanks mate. Appreciate it
Was recommended your beanie video. I also came to the same conclusions several years ago. Its funny because no one would ever expect something as simple as a beanie would matter, but it does. And with that something ive concluded in general is “every detail matters”. But anyways, interesting channel with a kind of funny strange quirky British personality. ✌🏻
how about long coat?? how to apply the golden ratio. do we flip it
Long coats work differently. You can flip the ratio, yes 👍
The golden ratio is usually between the belt line and mid - fly. Simply wear jackets that are better proportioned, for someone skinny and short like me, oversized clothing will particularly look bad on me. Always my jackets are cut shorter for that reason, whether they are leather or denim pieces
The Acne's blue sweatshirt looks great on you!! 💙
Thanks a lot
need the last outfit on the right
Anyone have any ID on it?
Your videos help me a lot. Gave me more confidence on how I dress
That’s awesome to hear mate!
@Harry Has thanks mate, happy new year!
So are long coats just this inverted?
would this work the other way around? a long coat being 2/3 and pants/shoes 1/3?
What about wearing a Peacoat?
So wait how should you use this to order clothes? Do you order off the closest to your golden ratio?
Men rushing for tape measures 😂😂 love this mate!
This one was super helpful! I have short legs, so long jackets and top make me look shorter
Im 6ft 3 with a slim frame & longer than average legs, therefore most jackets look ok unless too short where they make my legs look like stilts. However trenchcoats, winter coats & suit coats are all designed to be long & still look good.
yeah this hard fast golden ratio number is overly simplistic. It completely ignores leg-to-torso ratio for one.
Great video Harry I’m just a bit curious about other types of garments like knitted sweaters especially those oversized ones. How do you dress them with the golden ratio?
How about long jacket like Parka's?🤔
this is very useful video huge thumbs up.. make more of these videos
Hey Harry! Good day to you. Quick questions:
1. Do you also apply this to your tops (shirts, t-shirts, etc.)?
2. Should I measure with shoes on or off? Cause different shoes give different extra heights.
Thank you!
Love this video, great advice and nice style bro, just one question
I do a lot of shopping online, some places don’t tell you the height of a jacket, but only in small, medium etc, is there a way around this?
I suppose if the jacket comes abit over the line point (mines 93) then I could break it by showing my under-layer on the line point right?
I have a long torso, so this makes it difficult. I'm 21, so my spine keeps growing, but my legs aren't. Now I'm 6ft tall, but I've been wearing the same length pants since I was 5'9
Awesome concept brother. Wonderful video
Thanks a lot
I'm like 5'9 in shoes, my waist measurement is like 32" and my hip measurement is 40". (81cm and 101cm) Hoodies/short jackets that would usually sit well on somebody my height end up bunched up at my hips and give me a fabric belly so I've found I either gotta wear jackets that well outsize me so they can sit past my cheeks or are really small and sit at my waist all day long.
As a short guy, it’s sooo hard to find jackets that suits my length, especially sleeves.
Reason 4: I like your videos and think they are helping me look different at my clothing style and see if I want to change something. 😁
hi harry, have u tried on some giordano clothes. whats ure review abt it 😊
I haven’t I’m afraid
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Where's the fit on the left from 4:28? Thanks!
Hi there ! The rule of thirds is such a brilliant, it works great, but i got a question: what can i do if most of my hoodies, t-shirts etc. are too long to follow the rule, and i still got two 1/2 parts. Is there any brands or companies that makes shorter hoodies, t-shirts and jackets so i can achieve the rule.
P.S. You do a great job with your videos they are super helpful, hope you will see my comment, it would really help, i would be very greatful. Thanks!
What brand is the jacket on the left at 6:50?
reason 4: I watch every video you put out
This make a lot of sense to me, I'm 150 cm tall, and almost all of my jackets are cropped, but doesn't feel cropped enough nor long enough to fit my height.
I did this since one year or so (it begins with my North Face Nuptse I think) but I don't even heard about the golden ratio or made any thoughts about this style to wear clothes. :)
Your contents are always spot on! Thank you!
Thanks a lot for watching
And so when looking for a coat would it make sens to do it reverse and look for something falling near to the mid of ou thight ?
Coats are different. I actually like different length coat’s depending on which one I’m going for.
I got two Alpha Industries ma1 black and olive. I don’t look good with it because it is too boxy. I sucks
I like a mid drift for my jackets so 25 inches long is good for me and example I’m 5’8 so I like it to cut off right before my waistline
I loved this Harry! I had to subscribe
Appreciate the support, Sam 🙏
I'm just sad some of my jackets now look oversized on me or lost their silhouette as my body changed.
Sometimes i think my essentials oversized puffer jacket looks ridiculous on me but it's my most complimented, my other bombers and leather jacket sometimes look too long for me, i always tuck my tshirt or bottom size my jacket so my hoodie fits into the golden ratio.
What if you invert the ratio so the top is longer? Does it still work?
Yes
You did it Once again Harry;very helping video thank you for improving my style
Pleased to hear mate. Thanks for watching